Same. So frustrating & ridiculous that right now I'm trying to buy 3 acres , wooded, 10 mins out of town & banks won't give loans for tiny homes. Have to have it considered an RV. So can't put it on a foundation. Smh.
To approve an accessory dwelling is great for some, but it is only a very small piece of the greater issue at hand with a lack of homes. Many do not have relatives with property that could accommodate the addition of even a tiny house, or a desire to do so. The real housing problem is not enough units of all sorts: AFFORDABLE homes, apartments, manufactured or others.
Create co-op organizations that work together to owner occupied properties at cost. If working class people assist each other, the problem could be solved. Habitat for Humanity has done it , so it can be done on larger scale.
The subdivision was built for the purpose of being low-cost rentals for low-income people. Naturally, it's not going to be built in the best area of town. As long as the community owner isn't a slumlord and management maintains the community, it should stay nice.
I know he's getting a big kick off by the tiny home association that city council member is smart I wouldn't be to surprise that one of his family member owns the company that will be building those
That's traditionally what has been built already all over Jacksonville and continues to be built. Not everyone wants to share walls with neighbors though. I'm one of those people.
This is a nice start. Fixing all the derelict houses on the west and north sides would really, really help. Possibly less advertising in other cities and urging for people to get a "one way ticket to Jacksonville would help extremely. Enough gentrification. Let Jacksonville be affordable for residents first.
There's a bit of conflict in your comment. Thought I agree on the surface, by fixing up places for rental or sale, the landlord or seller is gentrifying poor neighborhoods. Naturally, a fixed-up house is going to require a higher rent. Someone had to spend a lot of money to fix it up and they need to be able to slowly get their money back in rent payments.
That's what I was hoping this was going to be. I suspect small homes like these are less profitable for the developer. Notice where developers are building new homes in Jacksonville and the cost of those new homes. They're definitely not catering to the working class or first-time homebuyer.
@@palebeachbum And that's all it's about. The city needs to throw money at builders open to building the smaller houses, and build them. I have no interest in paying 300K+ for an 11k or 12k square footed house. I dont care where it is located. lol. Build smaller houses the size and cut of a large one bedroom apartment. This is about profit, or lack there of.
Tiny homes are definitely not for everyone, but neither are the abundance of typical size 3 and 4 bedroom houses all over Jacksonville. Houses are not one-size-fits-all. When I moved to Jacksonville, I was surprised to see there are so many sub-1,000sqft 2 bedroom, 1 bath homes. I'm just not used to seeing that. Yet, there's clearly a need and desire for such small homes since they're all occupied either by owners or renters. I have no doubt that if Jacksonville allowed residents to build foundation-based tiny homes on their building lot and for developers to build tiny house communities, where residents own their own property, people would buy in. It's an excellent solution for first-time home buyers, allowing them to pay a mortgage off faster and built some equity to upgrade later if they desire. It's also a great solution for aging retirees who want their own home, but not the major hassle and expense of a bigger home. A condo alternative. I am very interested in it for myself and my mother likely would be as well. For the city to allow ADUs is a step forward in the right direction, but that only helps open up availability to the rental community and to accommodate aging family members. What about everyone else, such as single people like me, who simply want a more affordable living alternative that requires less upkeep?
Excellent idea to ruin Jacksonville, make a great misery village, and lower the price of all the properties, the quality of life. Keep up these bright ideas, and those who really move money and pay taxes will go away.
@@palebeachbum My comment is in favor of the city, and not a particular thought, as is yours. If Jacksonville starts to have this type of property, the value of the city of Jacksonville is going to drop, it's pretty easy to tell, just refer to the history books. Who may be interested in buying a property, where it is allowed for the neighbor next door, the one in front or the one behind, to start building small houses. This country became number one, for having had citizens with great ideas, these tiny houses, they are small ideas.
@@juanpindonga8500 you are severely our of touch with the reality of America's affordable housing crisis. Housing is not a one size fits all proposition and it never has been the case. Needs and desires vary greatly.
@@palebeachbum You have your idea and I have mine. As a Jacksonville resident, Jacksonville is being ruined too much with a huge amount of 3 story buildings by stairs, made by the "developers" who of course will never go to live there. They are making neighborhoods without any privacy, wooden houses nailed next to the neighbor, where you can hear if they are cooking a hamburger or making scrambled eggs, if we are going to add to this that small houses are going to be built on the surface of a house , it's time to plant bananas and make a bow and arrow to get food, instead of going to Publix. Merry Christmas and goodbye
Imagine being a property owner and you had some of your employees stay on your property in a tiny house for a place to stay exchange for work... What does that sound like? Sounds familiar
I think you're alluding to slavery, but it's not the same. First, slave owners OWNED their slaves, and the slaves had no rights and could not leave at their will. Second, it's not uncommon already for very wealthy people to employ a housekeeper or nanny full-time who lives in their guest quarters/guest house in exchange for their services and salary.
@@palebeachbum It starts like this with open arms and opportunity promised but imagine that you don't like the homeowner and the homeowner doesn't like you after a year or so but you come depending on working for him not because you like the job anymore because you have to work it cuz you need a place to stay and he doesn't pay you enough to move back out on your hour 8 hour shifts turn to 12 hour shifts. No healthcare no dental Care rotating shifts, no holidays off ,and next week he's cutting wages and now wants at your wife..but you need a place to stay 😱!!!..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Then what!
o @palebeachbum It starts like this with open arms and opportunity promised but imagine that you don't like the homeowner and the homeowner doesn't like you after a year or so but you come depending on working for him not because you like the job anymore because you have to work it cuz you need a place to stay and he doesn't pay you enough to move back out on your hour 8 hour shifts turn to 12 hour shifts. No healthcare no dental Care rotating shifts, no holidays off ,and next week he's cutting wages and now wants you wife..but you need a place to stay 😱!!!..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Then what
I'm in favor of the idea, in general, but there are issues to consider - overcrowding a property, etc.. one of the first issues that comes to mind is parking for all the vehicles of all the residents of all the new homes - this especially becomes problematic in urban settings where street parking (instead of driveways and garages) are the norm. If people can build a tiny home in their backyard - should they also be able to set up a 60 year old mobile home? What about a couple of rundown RV's?
Valid concerns. In the case of this particular tiny house community, it's set up like a subdivision of individual homes. Keep in mind they are tiny and intended for 1 resident. So, it's a 1 car per house situation. They accommodate for that with parking spaces. Jacksonville already has regulations regarding placement of mobile homes and RVs. I'm not sure about the specifics of mobile homes, but RVs are not permitted for full-time living. It's legally considered a motor vehicle.
Other cities have done this with great success and its a wonderful start.
Let me build my tiny home on my land!!.
Same. So frustrating & ridiculous that right now I'm trying to buy 3 acres , wooded, 10 mins out of town & banks won't give loans for tiny homes. Have to have it considered an RV. So can't put it on a foundation. Smh.
@@WarmongerYT The banks are loaning for a tiny build even if it's on a foundation? Have they told you the reason why? That seems ridiculous to me.
To approve an accessory dwelling is great for some, but it is only a very small piece of the greater issue at hand with a lack of homes. Many do not have relatives with property that could accommodate the addition of even a tiny house, or a desire to do so. The real housing problem is not enough units of all sorts: AFFORDABLE homes, apartments, manufactured or others.
There nice looking houses 🏘 just as long as you make ppl keep up with the property.
Well as long as they're actually affordable
Create co-op organizations that work together to owner occupied properties at cost. If working class people assist each other, the problem could be solved. Habitat for Humanity has done it , so it can be done on larger scale.
It’s a great place for the homeless to smoke meth in.
I seen the prices of those they're very very expensive for what you get
How much?
@@palebeachbum i seen just the house for 50.000
when you see cageds around AC units that tells the area and future
Cages
@@redfaman once again, the media think we are stupid, Like we dont see that!?!!!
The subdivision was built for the purpose of being low-cost rentals for low-income people. Naturally, it's not going to be built in the best area of town. As long as the community owner isn't a slumlord and management maintains the community, it should stay nice.
Policies can be written as comprehensively as people want to write them. Good policy can’t fit in a single tweet.
No way, single family zoning is for people who don't want crowded and pay for that privilege.
MORE AFFORDABLE AND ACCOMMODATES YOUNG ADULT STARTER HOMES, NEWLYWEDS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS TOO
"Yeah it gets crowded real quick." I felt that.😕
I know he's getting a big kick off by the tiny home association that city council member is smart I wouldn't be to surprise that one of his family member owns the company that will be building those
They think we are stupid!! That's for sure
Definitely, because we know nobody cares about middle to lower class residents. He’s been bought
Middle housing! More townhomes row houses and quadraplexes
That's traditionally what has been built already all over Jacksonville and continues to be built. Not everyone wants to share walls with neighbors though. I'm one of those people.
i think they should esp for those with family youd like to have stay near but not in
That's still not gonna solve the issue with renters and insurance companies
This is a nice start. Fixing all the derelict houses on the west and north sides would really, really help. Possibly less advertising in other cities and urging for people to get a "one way ticket to Jacksonville would help extremely. Enough gentrification. Let Jacksonville be affordable for residents first.
By gentrification, do you mean building attractive places for working people to live?
There's a bit of conflict in your comment. Thought I agree on the surface, by fixing up places for rental or sale, the landlord or seller is gentrifying poor neighborhoods. Naturally, a fixed-up house is going to require a higher rent. Someone had to spend a lot of money to fix it up and they need to be able to slowly get their money back in rent payments.
Stop having the rents go up on people that can't afford it
I would live in a tiny house anyday
look at duval moving humanity forward.
CAUSE IVE BEEN CONVINCED THERE WEREN'T A SHRED LEFT.. BUT OK JIKESONVILLE
This is a good move!
Why not just build a subdivision of tiny houses???????
That's what I was hoping this was going to be. I suspect small homes like these are less profitable for the developer. Notice where developers are building new homes in Jacksonville and the cost of those new homes. They're definitely not catering to the working class or first-time homebuyer.
@@palebeachbum And that's all it's about. The city needs to throw money at builders open to building the smaller houses, and build them.
I have no interest in paying 300K+ for an 11k or 12k square footed house. I dont care where it is located. lol. Build smaller houses the size and cut of a large one bedroom apartment. This is about profit, or lack there of.
Bring this to Miami Dade County
They're going to allow it. That's cute. I'll do what I want, when I want.
Hopefully they don't over charge on the housing unit's!
Hopefully not. The rent is based on income.
They need to have a limit.
See sounds like someone thought of over-pricing a tiny home, it's not for you to get rich. It's to help stop homelessness.
Tiny homes are definitely not for everyone, but neither are the abundance of typical size 3 and 4 bedroom houses all over Jacksonville. Houses are not one-size-fits-all. When I moved to Jacksonville, I was surprised to see there are so many sub-1,000sqft 2 bedroom, 1 bath homes. I'm just not used to seeing that. Yet, there's clearly a need and desire for such small homes since they're all occupied either by owners or renters. I have no doubt that if Jacksonville allowed residents to build foundation-based tiny homes on their building lot and for developers to build tiny house communities, where residents own their own property, people would buy in. It's an excellent solution for first-time home buyers, allowing them to pay a mortgage off faster and built some equity to upgrade later if they desire. It's also a great solution for aging retirees who want their own home, but not the major hassle and expense of a bigger home. A condo alternative. I am very interested in it for myself and my mother likely would be as well. For the city to allow ADUs is a step forward in the right direction, but that only helps open up availability to the rental community and to accommodate aging family members. What about everyone else, such as single people like me, who simply want a more affordable living alternative that requires less upkeep?
Excellent idea to ruin Jacksonville, make a great misery village, and lower the price of all the properties, the quality of life. Keep up these bright ideas, and those who really move money and pay taxes will go away.
Jacksonville is way behind on tiny house communities. You should do more research before making such comments.
@@palebeachbum My comment is in favor of the city, and not a particular thought, as is yours. If Jacksonville starts to have this type of property, the value of the city of Jacksonville is going to drop, it's pretty easy to tell, just refer to the history books. Who may be interested in buying a property, where it is allowed for the neighbor next door, the one in front or the one behind, to start building small houses.
This country became number one, for having had citizens with great ideas, these tiny houses, they are small ideas.
@@juanpindonga8500 you are severely our of touch with the reality of America's affordable housing crisis. Housing is not a one size fits all proposition and it never has been the case. Needs and desires vary greatly.
@@palebeachbum You have your idea and I have mine. As a Jacksonville resident, Jacksonville is being ruined too much with a huge amount of 3 story buildings by stairs, made by the "developers" who of course will never go to live there. They are making neighborhoods without any privacy, wooden houses nailed next to the neighbor, where you can hear if they are cooking a hamburger or making scrambled eggs, if we are going to add to this that small houses are going to be built on the surface of a house , it's time to plant bananas and make a bow and arrow to get food, instead of going to Publix. Merry Christmas and goodbye
Tiny houses, aka mobile homes, sheds {traiker park}. Lots of fun in hurricane season.
These are built just like traditional homes on a fixed foundation, just at a very small size. They are not tiny homes on wheels.
These tiny houses go for about $100,000 plus lot development around $40,000. Is that affordable?
Plus a monthly hoa fee.
Let me know when I can put one on your property in Hawley
Imagine being a property owner and you had some of your employees stay on your property in a tiny house for a place to stay exchange for work... What does that sound like? Sounds familiar
Slavery. Sharecropping.
I think you're alluding to slavery, but it's not the same. First, slave owners OWNED their slaves, and the slaves had no rights and could not leave at their will. Second, it's not uncommon already for very wealthy people to employ a housekeeper or nanny full-time who lives in their guest quarters/guest house in exchange for their services and salary.
This is how it starts off it has to look appealing first
@@palebeachbum It starts like this with open arms and opportunity promised but imagine that you don't like the homeowner and the homeowner doesn't like you after a year or so but you come depending on working for him not because you like the job anymore because you have to work it cuz you need a place to stay and he doesn't pay you enough to move back out on your hour 8 hour shifts turn to 12 hour shifts. No healthcare no dental Care rotating shifts, no holidays off ,and next week he's cutting wages and now wants at your wife..but you need a place to stay 😱!!!..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Then what!
It's more like serfdom.
Ad/ u leave alone
Might as well build buildings. You can overcrowd space. The usa so large yet everyone want to be on top off each other.
More welfare housing more welfare housing more welfare housing
These people are paying rent based on their income. They deserve a place to call home.
No
I want t[live one [
Did it pass? I may need to find another place to live soon, but I can't afford anything on my own anymore.
Just make ing builders more money not solving anything.
o
@palebeachbum It starts like this with open arms and opportunity promised but imagine that you don't like the homeowner and the homeowner doesn't like you after a year or so but you come depending on working for him not because you like the job anymore because you have to work it cuz you need a place to stay and he doesn't pay you enough to move back out on your hour 8 hour shifts turn to 12 hour shifts. No healthcare no dental Care rotating shifts, no holidays off ,and next week he's cutting wages and now wants you wife..but you need a place to stay 😱!!!..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Then what
I'm in favor of the idea, in general, but there are issues to consider - overcrowding a property, etc.. one of the first issues that comes to mind is parking for all the vehicles of all the residents of all the new homes - this especially becomes problematic in urban settings where street parking (instead of driveways and garages) are the norm. If people can build a tiny home in their backyard - should they also be able to set up a 60 year old mobile home? What about a couple of rundown RV's?
Valid concerns. In the case of this particular tiny house community, it's set up like a subdivision of individual homes. Keep in mind they are tiny and intended for 1 resident. So, it's a 1 car per house situation. They accommodate for that with parking spaces. Jacksonville already has regulations regarding placement of mobile homes and RVs. I'm not sure about the specifics of mobile homes, but RVs are not permitted for full-time living. It's legally considered a motor vehicle.
ontactme pls
co tact me