Can These Hall Effect Joysticks Work in a DualSense Controller?

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  • Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
  • While I enjoy the feel of the orange Hall effect joystick, it does feel different; “smooth” seems to be the most common adjective describing it. So I've still been looking for a Hall effect joystick that feels like a regular potentiometer-type joystick. And I think the Hall sensors in this kit get as close as I've seen. But there are complications. Modifications will be required to get these joysticks to work with a DualSense controller. And they do have a higher noise output than a regular joystick. I do a bit of modifying, a bit of testing, and a little teardown. And finally, it does end up in a DualSense controller.
    Joystick kit link: a.co/d/8fHmbYt
    GamePadTester link: hardwaretester.com/gamepad
    “Hall Effect Joystick Revisited” video: • Hall Effect Joystick R...
    “Hall Effect Joystick Replacement” video: • Hall Effect Joystick R...
    00:00 Intro
    00:43 Unboxing
    01:18 Functionally Test & Failure Mode
    03:22 Hall Sensor Parts
    04:56 Modification #1
    05:52 Response Testing
    10:16 DualSense joystick replacement
    16:15 Modification #2
    18:23 Teardown
    20:05 Final Thoughts
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  • @brian7android985
    @brian7android985 13 днів тому +3

    "Buy two, get one!"
    Great advertising, lol.

  • @CallumRepairs
    @CallumRepairs 4 дні тому

    You've put a great deal of effort in to this video. Thank you.

  • @joshmclain3599
    @joshmclain3599 17 днів тому

    Awesome breakdown!!

  • @Arunnn241
    @Arunnn241 5 днів тому

    Thank you for this. Extremely helpful! For some reason, the dualsense edge joysticks are all out of stock and so now I'm looking at reg dualsense joysticks to resolder in the controller.

  • @chrisfeaka4250
    @chrisfeaka4250 17 днів тому

    There is actually 3 now. 😉. Nice information

    • @metalplasticelectronics354
      @metalplasticelectronics354  16 днів тому

      I ordered a couple of them yesterday. I also saw some advertised as Hall effect, but the pictures were of regular joysticks. Those I didn't try, almost positive there going to be regular joysticks.

  • @ydobp
    @ydobp 6 днів тому

    Anyone have a place/company they would recommend for with like this?
    I wanna replace my ds5 with hall effects?

  • @MiguelDeMarchena
    @MiguelDeMarchena 11 днів тому

    Maybe just by leaving the joysticks as they are but reversing the wiring on the controller you'll get the desired effect, i think that by cutting two cooper traces and adding two jumper cables on each analog you can get both to work as intended

  • @Bdishman1
    @Bdishman1 10 днів тому

    I often get really bad stick drift in my ps5 controller and Instead of buying a new controller i took my controller to a repair shop and asked the guy to fit hall affect joysticks in them can someone tell me if this was a good idea and if they last longer than original playstation joysticks and tell me more about them

    • @metalplasticelectronics354
      @metalplasticelectronics354  9 днів тому

      The Hall sensor and magnet should never wear out. Sensor might go bad, or something mechanical might break in the joystick. Should outlive a potentiometer based joystick by a long time.

  • @GregRosolowski
    @GregRosolowski 15 днів тому +1

    I would love to see tests like this using Jun Zengs calibration board. He reccomends these sensors with his board.

    • @metalplasticelectronics354
      @metalplasticelectronics354  15 днів тому +2

      May not be a need for the boards anymore. This may solve all the problems: blog.the.al/2024/04/09/dualshock-calibration-in-the-browser.html.

    • @legitcrack6438
      @legitcrack6438 6 днів тому

      @@metalplasticelectronics354 id like to see a comparison to see if i should remove the boards, pretty sure its same sticks in this video that i got with them, would put rest to my input lag paranoia.

  • @Yusuf-ti2lw
    @Yusuf-ti2lw 12 днів тому

    What is the best hall effect joystick for the fps

    • @metalplasticelectronics354
      @metalplasticelectronics354  9 днів тому +1

      Of the two I have tried I would say the K-Silver ones from this video. Though you have to do a bit of work to use both joysticks. But I just got 2 more kits from Amazon and I hope to be testing them out over the next couple of weeks.

  • @jackipiegg
    @jackipiegg 16 днів тому +1

    16:44
    Isn't the magnet south and north poles opposite sides? and not "left and right"?

    • @metalplasticelectronics354
      @metalplasticelectronics354  16 днів тому

      I would think the magnet poles are aligned with the axis of movement. That is why I just rotated the magnet 180 degrees. But I've never used a Hall effect sensor in any projects, so I'm not positive.

    • @jackipiegg
      @jackipiegg 16 днів тому

      @@metalplasticelectronics354
      For one, I'm 99.99% sure they don't manufacture magnets that small with "left/right" poles. Could you take a magnet and see if it attracts the same for "left/right" at the same face? If it does, wow, I need one of those.
      But yes, I'd imagine their custom hall effect sensor works differently from off the shelf parts seeing how the voltage is halved when it gets close.
      Standard sensors work by having it full tilt when magnets get close. i.e. North = 0V, South = 1.8V unlike this which is 0.9V.

    • @metalplasticelectronics354
      @metalplasticelectronics354  15 днів тому

      When I bring two of the magnets close, they always snap together, smallest face to smallest face. So I’m pretty sure the smallest faces are the poles. But you’ve piqued my interest in the Hall effect sensor magnet interaction. So I may try and do a little video on it.

    • @jackipiegg
      @jackipiegg 14 днів тому

      @@metalplasticelectronics354
      Wow the small sides on each end?
      Do dismantle the cheapo orange ones you got for 10 pieces to their bare pcb. The chip is hidden from the internet lol, no datasheet of any kind.

    • @metalplasticelectronics354
      @metalplasticelectronics354  13 днів тому

      I couldn't find any information on the Hall sensor in the orange ones or the K-Silver. But the magnets seem to be about the same. Yes, the poles are on the small ends.

  • @Imcrimsoncuh
    @Imcrimsoncuh 16 днів тому

    They have pcb boards that correct the outer deadzones and make them circular.

    • @metalplasticelectronics354
      @metalplasticelectronics354  16 днів тому +1

      I'm not sure how the adjustment boards would work witht he Hall effect sensors. I guess it would be possible if the operating voltage of the sensor would go low enough. But It may not mater anymore. This may solve all the problems: blog.the.al/2024/04/09/dualshock-calibration-in-the-browser.html. I've only tried it on a dualshock, but it worked. I hope to get some time to try it out in the next couple of weeks.

    • @legitcrack6438
      @legitcrack6438 16 днів тому

      get with the times bro