I solved the trolley problem (and other ethical dilemmas)

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  • @ProofreadFire
    @ProofreadFire 2 роки тому +2331

    This game is like:
    "there's a car and a bus, a train heading towards them"
    "the car has 4 people in it and the bus has 10"
    "do you let the train hit the car or bus?"
    Then after you answer shes like:
    "LOL there were actually 100 people in the trunk of the car rip bozo"

    • @J0seph_Mother
      @J0seph_Mother 2 роки тому +282

      I think that's kind of the point though, there's no way of know the outcome of a situation, all these problems have perfect situation that you know 100% the outcome but in real life you almost always never know the true outcome of a situation. But I get how it's annoying in a game like this

    • @fatitankeris6327
      @fatitankeris6327 2 роки тому +12

      Honestly, the details of stuff like the medical institution part are very much the key elements, but they try to keep it vague as if it's a simple decision at all. In many cases, it boils down to: either one person suffers a lot, or a large number of people suffer. Billy dilly dong, your choice is wrong.

    • @ProofreadFire
      @ProofreadFire 2 роки тому +68

      @@J0seph_Mother But then it makes the choice moot. you rely on the question as is because you can't give a nuanced answer. you choose A or B. In real life you could go through all the variables. Pushing a fat guy in front of a train would never stop the train, but the question is a hypothetical, you cant just change a hypothetical question on the fly.

    • @ButtMash1
      @ButtMash1 2 роки тому

      How many people do people think buses can hold lol

    • @alpyne4897
      @alpyne4897 2 роки тому +32

      ​@@ProofreadFire I think you can. This is a thought experiment, not a scored test. No right or wrong. You're encouraged to extrapolate, weigh in the variables. That thinking process is what this game wants to get out of the players, not a gratifying "ding ding, you made the right choice!". These dilemmas wouldn't be dilemmas if you could easily convince yourself that there's an obvious solution.

  • @depecher6s311
    @depecher6s311 2 роки тому +2515

    I love that the narrator acts like you are a bad person no matter what option you pick hahaha

    • @KingdomofArabia
      @KingdomofArabia 2 роки тому +264

      @PikaPikaGamer how am i bad if i have no choice ?
      involving yourself in an already bad situation
      only to minimize the losses does not make you a bad person.

    • @strandkorbst9643
      @strandkorbst9643 2 роки тому +9

      @PikaPikaGamer youre wroong

    • @Capeey
      @Capeey 2 роки тому +1

      it also has a meaning to twitter, no matter what someone does, there will be always f*ckers who gonna sh*t on you by just anything

    • @needo8520
      @needo8520 2 роки тому +129

      @@KingdomofArabia no hes right there is no right answer and this is why morality is a subjective concept and not something that is objective like science

    • @gotworc
      @gotworc 2 роки тому +22

      @PikaPikaGamer but why. I actually don't get that one. 5 is worth more than 1 no matter what

  • @o.s.1406
    @o.s.1406 2 роки тому +893

    This guy knows how to. . . guys I can’t fucking do this anymore. Help me.

  • @shiny1475
    @shiny1475 2 роки тому +510

    Episode 1: Do you sacrifice 1 person to prevent the death of 5 or do nothing and let 5 people die instead?
    Episode 77: Do you let the Yellowstone erupt and kill everyone AND A DOG or do you watch a whole jubilee video instead?

    • @lebedeff4196
      @lebedeff4196 2 роки тому +2

      LMAO

    • @lebedeff4196
      @lebedeff4196 2 роки тому

      FUCK NO

    • @hejalll
      @hejalll 2 роки тому +6

      It's interesting to me that so many should spare the tourist to let 5 people die, but so few would spare the fat guy for the 5 lives.

    • @shiny1475
      @shiny1475 2 роки тому +7

      @@hejalll I thought about this a lot and I think it's the process of you having to cut a healthy man to pieces vs just simply pushing an overweight person

    • @hejalll
      @hejalll 2 роки тому

      @@shiny1475 1. It doesn't mention anything about the health of the tourist, for all we know, it could be an overweight tourist.
      2. You can be just as unhealthy as an overweight person, as a non-overweight person.
      3. I don't think it assumes you will have to do the transplant personally, in that case literally only surgeons would ever do this, because how else would you not fuck it up.

  • @caca738
    @caca738 2 роки тому +1177

    I think in reality, most people would not do anything and just fall into bystander syndrome. It’s very easy to answer questions like this but it is not comparable to making decisions in the moment.

    • @valentinerusski
      @valentinerusski 2 роки тому +15

      🤓

    • @callumfoxvlogs
      @callumfoxvlogs 2 роки тому +192

      I think people would pull a lever. But nobody is pushing a guy off a bridge for sure 🤣

    • @metrodom9199
      @metrodom9199 2 роки тому +248

      @@valentinerusski 🤓⌨ "🤓"

    • @HexJK
      @HexJK 2 роки тому +14

      If you change course, you're giving the people on the active track the right of way over the people on the inactive track.
      If there was one person on each track (literal clones of each other, no differences), would you pull the lever? No, so that's your answer for every variation of the trolley problem.

    • @dendi9883
      @dendi9883 2 роки тому +3

      @@valentinerusski ?

  • @rinrin4711
    @rinrin4711 2 роки тому +405

    I really like the "5 patients and a tourist" question. It is practically identical to the classic trolley problem: you have 5 people awaiting their death unless you decide to sacrifice an innocent person. Yet the first one is commonly debated and the last one is a hard no for 99%.

    • @mysterygutardog101
      @mysterygutardog101 2 роки тому +27

      yo wtf, didn't realize that.

    • @lebrinjims3580
      @lebrinjims3580 2 роки тому +57

      But all of the patients have pre-existing conditions. So are you really saving the same amount of life as the first problem? There’s always more to consider

    • @devilvocano420
      @devilvocano420 2 роки тому

      Its not identical
      Its more identical to pushing the fat guy but still different
      6 people standing on railroad tracks with active trains, thats dumb
      5 people dying to natural causes
      Needing to literally kill 1 person with your hands
      And most ppl dont push the fat guy

    • @BlackedRawdotcom
      @BlackedRawdotcom 2 роки тому +9

      @@lebrinjims3580 It never said they had pre-existing conditions. wtf?

    • @lebrinjims3580
      @lebrinjims3580 2 роки тому +58

      @@BlackedRawdotcom An organ transplant is a pre-existing condition in itself. But on top of that, if you need an organ transplant, there was usually something wrong to begin with that may or may not hurt the new organ as well (smoking or drug addiction, etc)

  • @wasabiiwooman
    @wasabiiwooman 2 роки тому +476

    1:23:00
    “Just because I did it, doesn’t mean I’m guilty” - our jigachad warlord

    • @XeZrunner
      @XeZrunner 2 роки тому +15

      "Really?"

    • @fiem
      @fiem 2 роки тому +23

      wtf i watched this video right until now for more than an hours straight and just decided to scroll down to the comments and right when i read this comment he literally said that. The odds of that is insane what

    • @morkmello5367
      @morkmello5367 2 роки тому +4

      Sorry for killing your friend bro but its not my fault he died

    • @luvvmochi
      @luvvmochi 2 роки тому +4

      @@fiem this happens to me all the time it’s actually crazy

    • @fiem
      @fiem 2 роки тому +3

      @@luvvmochi yeah me too but this video is so long tho

  • @SciRuler
    @SciRuler 2 роки тому +354

    Holy shit, I just realized, the flash of the dead child with x’s on her eyes was the girl in the sand we chose to end in the trolley problem. She was gonna make breakthroughs the prompt said but she died and so we have the choice of making that decision for her.
    (It flashes during the patient treatment of doing research breakthroughs in the hospital set)

    • @josh3003
      @josh3003 2 роки тому +44

      Oh fuck…

    • @wyattbailey1813
      @wyattbailey1813 2 роки тому +8

      @AryteArts I don’t think it does since it didn’t for a few questions. Made me kind of mad because the better option was chosen by chat but the game didn’t care

    • @greenbeangang8303
      @greenbeangang8303 2 роки тому +14

      15:40

    • @thedoctor2880
      @thedoctor2880 2 роки тому +8

      @@greenbeangang8303 damn it i didnt see that the first time, i regret clicking that timestamp, scared the shit out of me

    • @_DMNO_
      @_DMNO_ 2 роки тому +1

      It doesn't change anything though. The point of trolley problems are to view the value of a life at a superficial level without any information given that could skew the choice.
      Its 5 people vs. 1 kid, and should remain that simple.

  • @steffanthomas5523
    @steffanthomas5523 2 роки тому +144

    chat losing their shit over whether flamingos could fly was hilarious

    • @_soups
      @_soups 2 роки тому +16

      There's a misconception because in zoos they clip the wings of flamingos so they temporarily can't fly. It's still funny how sure of themselves the actual pepegas in chat are about flamingos not being able to fly and call X and others pepega when they were actually right.

    • @thegrimreaper9552
      @thegrimreaper9552 2 роки тому

      @@_soups Timestamp?

    • @TroubledTrooper
      @TroubledTrooper Рік тому

      It wouldnt be able to fly with a human sized brain inside, but the dog would also have problems with a human brain inside tbh

  • @Dephino7
    @Dephino7 2 роки тому +61

    you know the chat is a bunch of kids when they say they'd voluntarily push a man off a bridge. humans are not that cold especially when the pressure does not affect you or the people you love physically.

    • @moredcaicyrus2826
      @moredcaicyrus2826 2 роки тому +17

      That was just chat trolling cause its the begining i think they got more serious as the game went on

    • @Dephino7
      @Dephino7 2 роки тому +8

      @@moredcaicyrus2826 i don’t even think so. People love to see themselves as being able to do heroic things under pressure.

    • @moredcaicyrus2826
      @moredcaicyrus2826 2 роки тому +6

      @@Dephino7 well in real life prolly about 1 percsnt of chat would actually kill someone, the rest would prolly think about it and be to scared to act

    • @Dephino7
      @Dephino7 2 роки тому

      @@moredcaicyrus2826 yeah

    • @Dephino7
      @Dephino7 2 роки тому

      @@Noah-lj2sg yeah not sure who is disagreeing with that

  • @I_Wonder_.
    @I_Wonder_. 2 роки тому +248

    The fact that the narrator always plays devil's advocate and openly tells u the downsides of ur decision makes it a lot more fun and interesting tbh

    • @maxchen4674
      @maxchen4674 2 роки тому +20

      That's why it's a dilemma, both options are equally unfavorable.

    • @soulure
      @soulure 2 роки тому

      What game is this??

    • @orangeguy5374
      @orangeguy5374 2 роки тому +2

      @@soulure Trolley Problem Inc.

    • @MrEvanNoyes
      @MrEvanNoyes 2 роки тому +1

      That’s the whole point of a dilemma and also this game

    • @johndave117
      @johndave117 2 роки тому +1

      sjw game LULW

  • @imaforceanature7297
    @imaforceanature7297 2 роки тому +295

    You know the questions are good when chat flips their answer for the 5 lives for 1 life trolley to 1 life for 5 lives barely 10 minutes later.

    • @Lupalontras
      @Lupalontras 2 роки тому +59

      dude not even felix notice that it was practically the same question lmao

    • @roxas4587
      @roxas4587 2 роки тому +3

      being severely sick is better than dying.

    • @user-fo7mu7hx4w
      @user-fo7mu7hx4w 2 роки тому +13

      it is just human nature that we don't want to be the direct cause of death of others

    • @Laroac
      @Laroac 2 роки тому +16

      But it's not the same question, one has a higher severety than the otger.

    • @imaforceanature7297
      @imaforceanature7297 2 роки тому +11

      @@Laroac it’s the same question in a different format, you’re intentionally causing the death of 1 to prevent the death of 5

  • @A_000
    @A_000 2 роки тому +79

    If chat answers to the problems in the world, the world would already be burned down

  • @SukeShiro
    @SukeShiro 2 роки тому +219

    Chat doesn't understand that the game makes you feel bad for any choice you choose. That's because there are always arguments on both sides and morality is just based on your ethical principles. If you hit the lever, you consciously make the decision to kill one person. If you don't you consciously choose not to act. Inaction is also a choice. Are five lives not worth as much as one? Also, what if the five people were your parents and siblings? Now would you flip it because you know them? There are no right and wrong answers truly, which is why so many people get angry over these kinds of things.

    • @petersall1055
      @petersall1055 2 роки тому +96

      There is definitly a right decision: My decision. LULW

    • @SukeShiro
      @SukeShiro 2 роки тому +25

      @@petersall1055 TRUE LULW

    • @airplanemode101
      @airplanemode101 2 роки тому +25

      Bro if my mum is on one track and 100,000 people on the other, I'd save my mum lmfao. Life is too short to worry about 100k strangers

    • @SukeShiro
      @SukeShiro 2 роки тому +29

      @@airplanemode101 Exactly. Because you value your mom (someone you know and love) more than a bunch of strangers. Meanwhile someone else who doesn’t have family values as strong as you might save the 1000 people.

    • @shiny_birb2678
      @shiny_birb2678 2 роки тому +1

      @@airplanemode101 this might be a "fatherless" take but why does everybody love their moms so much like bro i'd save the 100k people

  • @Jakalaka14
    @Jakalaka14 2 роки тому +247

    This game was a rollercoaster of emotions

  • @BlahBlah-wp9gr
    @BlahBlah-wp9gr 2 роки тому +164

    3:45 The one with Tyrone physically doesn't make sense. How am I gonna move somebody whose body mass can stop a train?

    • @SensationalShades
      @SensationalShades 2 роки тому +24

      OMEGALUL

    • @pookz3067
      @pookz3067 2 роки тому +98

      It’s called a thought experiment. The whole point is to understand what the ethically relevant details are, which you clearly don’t.

    • @BlahBlah-wp9gr
      @BlahBlah-wp9gr 2 роки тому +39

      @@pookz3067 Nerdge

    • @greenghost6691
      @greenghost6691 2 роки тому +12

      @@pookz3067 It's a lazily written example.

    • @vivious_
      @vivious_ 2 роки тому +5

      who cares, you just push him and he stops the train

  • @rrchy.
    @rrchy. 2 роки тому +80

    the chat doesnt seem to think about the fact that they have to do some of these actions, shit could say "3 people will die unless you rip a new born baby limb from limb with your bear hands." and these mfs would pretend that they're a fucking dc super hero and must chose to save the many instead of the few

    • @stood6488
      @stood6488 2 роки тому

      Would you barbarically mutilate the infant to save the many, though?
      What if among that group lies your soulmate, your childhood friend, and the influencer you admire most?

    • @raven3946
      @raven3946 2 роки тому +7

      What I thought exactly, most people would freeze

    • @xllWarlockllx
      @xllWarlockllx 2 роки тому +4

      And most of the don't even take it seriously, typical XQC viewers. Lol

    • @swordyshield
      @swordyshield 2 роки тому +10

      this is something that happens as a result of it being a game as well. I would always say save the many but if I actually had to do it, it would be harder to convince myself to do so

    • @dinglebop5700
      @dinglebop5700 2 роки тому +24

      That's the point of these psychological questions. Most people SAY they would turn the switch in the trolley problem, however in reality they wouldn't. Vsauce did a real test version of this, and proved it.

  • @feelsbadman1833
    @feelsbadman1833 2 роки тому +37

    I skimmed through the video, it started with "Pull lever to save 5 people or let 1 die" and then i see "BE CONSUMED OR COOK TYRONE" what the hell is going on

    • @lop90ful1
      @lop90ful1 2 роки тому +1

      It was brilliant

  • @miladasadi3374
    @miladasadi3374 2 роки тому +199

    The reason she keeps bringing up new scenarios, changing our stance, is cause it reveals how subjective our morality is.

    • @Tearynite
      @Tearynite 2 роки тому +18

      It really isn't. People generally know what's right and wrong and are very static in what they believe as a human race.
      Anyone who performs actions that aren't aligned with that morality KNOW what they are doing is wrong, it's mostly only about whether they are willing to live with those choices.

    • @Khy._
      @Khy._ 2 роки тому +8

      @@Tearynite ahhh yes 5Head TeaTime

    • @duonsoul7996
      @duonsoul7996 2 роки тому +13

      @@Tearynite looks like you haven't learned about Nietzsche

    • @pocari2917
      @pocari2917 2 роки тому

      @@Tearynite There is no such thing as an objective morality. Would you kill a child to save 5 others? Or would you just stand there and do nothing, thereby letting 5 children die? People have never had the same answer facing problems like these. There is no right choice in this case, which there would be if morality is truly objective.

    • @Tearynite
      @Tearynite 2 роки тому +3

      @@pocari2917 There's always a right answer I feel, whatever is the greater good in terms of a sustaining effect on the world. It's the case for ever scenario with adequate information.
      Majority of people (not all obviously), would press a button brutally torture, destroy, murder one person to save a million.

  • @andreasdagen
    @andreasdagen 2 роки тому +40

    In reality you'd also have to factor in the PTSD you'd get from doing some of the stuff, I bet pushing a person onto a train to save five others is a lot more damaging than just not doing anything.

    • @_DMNO_
      @_DMNO_ 2 роки тому +1

      I find it completely opposite. I would much rather kill for the lives of 5 people, than to let them all die.
      Why would you feel remorseful after saving so many people?

    • @largecupenjoyer1459
      @largecupenjoyer1459 10 місяців тому

      ​@@_DMNO_oh, wow, really?

  • @dontspam26
    @dontspam26 2 роки тому +22

    Narrarator: "You cant make an omelet without breaking eggs"
    Chatter: "I can"

  • @Gamerbro302
    @Gamerbro302 2 роки тому +34

    this game is pretty smart because it changes around common philosophical questions into questions that a person wouldn't mind answering, then rewording that question to make people reconsider their choice 5Head
    for example theres 4 abortion questions from 1:12:00 - 1:17:35 OMEGALUL

  • @actua7
    @actua7 2 роки тому +10

    30:00
    The reason it's the coders fault is that they would have had to make a routine for the AI to choose in order for it to decide to hunt people, the model can't invent the ability to hunt people from learning to avoid hitting them, outside of movies that's not how reinforcement learning works

  • @_Pyroon_
    @_Pyroon_ 2 роки тому +40

    I would upgrade my trollies to trains, we don't have these issues with trains.

  • @rookiemaster4318
    @rookiemaster4318 2 роки тому +206

    This game is surprisingly immersive and has a very cozy feeling to it, enjoyed the whole video.

    • @disco1528
      @disco1528 2 роки тому +10

      I try to watch this at night and it just creeps me out, especially when they show the previous deaths like the picture of the child and the dog.

    • @haxyz1372
      @haxyz1372 2 роки тому

      what is the name of the game

    • @mina-min
      @mina-min 2 роки тому +1

      same i watched it in one sitting

    • @mieo5048
      @mieo5048 2 роки тому +2

      @@haxyz1372 the trolley problem, I guess you've already learnt the game's name but just in case here you go

    • @johndave117
      @johndave117 2 роки тому +1

      sjw game LULW

  • @pikahetti
    @pikahetti 2 роки тому +33

    we went from pushing Tyrone into the train tracks to have Tyrone be Sun's food.... holy this game dud

  • @budgetlifter
    @budgetlifter 2 роки тому +197

    this guy knows how to ethically solve ethical problems

    • @epicawesomeguy3491
      @epicawesomeguy3491 2 роки тому +8

      Why do you do this

    • @naughti_penguin2340
      @naughti_penguin2340 2 роки тому +4

      what's with "this guy knows how to..." trend

    • @sillycatwithmurderousintent
      @sillycatwithmurderousintent 2 роки тому +17

      @@naughti_penguin2340 x once got in one of Daily Doses videos and said "This guy knows how to make a perfect circle", from then on, people have been doing this thing in every comment section..

    • @gunsp0t
      @gunsp0t 2 роки тому +1

      Classic

    • @superstorm500ify
      @superstorm500ify 2 роки тому +12

      @@sillycatwithmurderousintent It’s literally been going on for more than a year and I wish I was kidding

  • @menesebastiao2468
    @menesebastiao2468 2 роки тому +129

    "You were on a bridge with tyrone" thank God the bajs weren't awake, we would be seeing CooBruhs for the next 5 streams

    • @lunarleaf
      @lunarleaf 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-vs3rr8qx2b thanks bro I made sure to smash the dislike button and report your comment for spam

    • @noeruxd4048
      @noeruxd4048 2 роки тому +1

      cmonbruh is banned

    • @VGVN
      @VGVN 2 роки тому +6

      RlyTho ?

    • @menesebastiao2468
      @menesebastiao2468 2 роки тому +5

      noeruxd CooBruh isn't

    • @menesebastiao2468
      @menesebastiao2468 2 роки тому +11

      Femboy Friday people slammed KkonaW because he was fat, not because he was white lol

  • @DarjeelingEnjoyer
    @DarjeelingEnjoyer 2 роки тому +82

    The narrator insulting your every choice makes sense. Don't know about anyone else but to me that seemed extremely realistic.
    The one where you had to choose whether to go with the operation of shooting one target, saving thousands, but you kill 5 civilians especially. Reminds me of real life with military operations. Like a drone strike, where you're told to kill a target, but the strike also happened to kill some civilians with it. The media will show that story and many people will say that the military was wrong or that the person who pulled the trigger was evil. But the majority of chat made the same decision that I think most of chat would disagree with if they saw it on the news.
    You see a drone strike on the news that is targeting a bad person, but it also kills civilians and does not hit the target. You think negatively of the military because of it and the person who pulled the trigger or pushed the button. But many of people in chat did just that. They pulled that same trigger because they saw it as "for the greater good". They didn't know that the operation itself would be a failure, but now they are ridiculed for doing it. If they didn't do it, they would be criticized for not doing anything to stop terrorists.

    • @Rose_Emp
      @Rose_Emp 2 роки тому +2

      Chatting

    • @fxracer1860
      @fxracer1860 2 роки тому +11

      @@Rose_Emp “Chatting” Chatting

    • @DrakeOola
      @DrakeOola 2 роки тому +2

      Yep, people are too easily influenced by the media and nothing garners more attention and success for a news channel than "look how shit those in charge are.", nobody wants to hear about how people are doing their job correctly, they want to hear about the screw ups and things they can criticize; things others will agree with. The main issue is that news channels are 'privately owned', they can and do seek to gain by riding on the most recent wave of controversy; the only solution is to make it illegal to monetize the news and force it to remain objectional, no one should be able to gain a quick buck for reporting the news, it leads to bias but at the same time people will see that as the government trying to silence any opposition by controlling the media and forcing views on public opinion. Doesn't matter if they don't change or force anything to be said on it, people will still see it as an attack on their personal freedom and especially their rights...
      There's really no winning in the eyes of the public; you do your job right and nobody will hear about it, the news doesn't want to report that 'boring story', they want to create stories about what will rile people up the most because that's what gains the most views and by extension the most money. What puzzles me tho is the massive difference in how willing people are to scrutinize things like the police force than say fast food or retail and customer support workers. 99% of cops will do their job by fairly, justly, and by the book but the moment the 1% does something controversial it's all over the news and remains there for weeks; becomes the center of attention and the main gossip for months. Meanwhile every other week you'll see another retail worker losing her shit and acting like a Karen on video or you'll see a fast food employee stepping on the lettuce, etc... but nobody ever says "wow look how bad retail workers are" let alone "all retail workers are bad" and they certainly never start an entire movement about it...
      Don't get me wrong, there is corruption in the police force but the average joe officer can't do much about it and just because we don't hear about it often doesn't mean they're not trying to stop it. People constantly say "ohh, I can't stop pollution, it's the big corporation's fault, I'm just an average joe and have no power to do anything" meanwhile they'll leave garbage on the beach, refuse to spend an extra nickel on eco friendly products, even improperly dispose of things like batteries on the regular; most people don't even know how harmful a single battery is to the environment when improperly disposed but "ohh, I'm just one person, it wont make a difference so no point trying". Those are the same people who complain about the average cop not even trying, most people won't even acknowledge that those same officers don't directly do anything wrong themselves either and they're the same people who allow their bosses to get away with illegal stuff all the time too while saying "what am I supposed to do, speak up and get fired?"
      Can't have it both ways and there are indeed many officers regularly speaking out about corruption in the workplace, we just don't hear about them as often because the news doesn't bother, it's not an interesting headline to say "breaking news: worker does his job properly", not that it's particularly their job to singlehandedly end corruption... Also, if we average joes can do something like completely interrupting wall street and crashing the stock market for months based on a meme then we can absolutely make an impact on pollution; even if only a dent. Sorry, went off on a rant but I just hate how many people say "you can't end pollution on your own, just give up and it's pointless for you to even try" like if you don't directly want to do something yourself that's fine but stop telling others it's pointless when they're trying. That type of attitude is far more harmful than any individual corporation.

    • @dylanabela4058
      @dylanabela4058 2 роки тому

      US drone strikes at times do not target military personnel or installations. Some hit civilian weddings. The US under Trump removed Obara-era legislation that the military had to report all civilian casualties from drone strikes. US military doctrine is based off of the destruction of civilian infrastructure in order to force a surrender. Probably just cooked up so F-100 pilots could sleep at night after spraying napalm on little kids and women.

  • @michaelle4031
    @michaelle4031 2 роки тому +37

    On the steam review people said they didn't like thos game because the narrator kept bickering them about their choices. But isn't that not the point?

    • @TheDeathLove
      @TheDeathLove 2 роки тому +2

      Yup lmao

    • @gunsp0t
      @gunsp0t 2 роки тому +1

      YEP

    • @nikkiel4203
      @nikkiel4203 2 роки тому +9

      Average steam reviewers

    • @moredcaicyrus2826
      @moredcaicyrus2826 2 роки тому +1

      Prolly ur average twitter user got mad at the made up character

    • @panmanteca5923
      @panmanteca5923 2 роки тому +6

      @@moredcaicyrus2826 "What do you mean the game isn't validating my each and every decision and opinion!?"

  • @acathosh
    @acathosh 2 роки тому +16

    The vote should be delayed more. I feel like over half the votes are thrown before people know the extent of the dilemma

  • @Daicarrus
    @Daicarrus 2 роки тому +67

    The AI about white men was actually true tho, even funnier was the whole twitter thing which it auto crops an image people begun testing to see 1 single white man vs 10 colored ones in a single image, which it always picked the white one lmao, then people begun doing random pictures like Coca-Cola vs pepsi, video games characters, etc.

    • @ub3rfr3nzy94
      @ub3rfr3nzy94 2 роки тому

      Developed by white men so ofc, it's trained on them. Get more black AI devs LULW

    • @fatitankeris6327
      @fatitankeris6327 2 роки тому +4

      AI doesn't have any preferences of its own. It's the datasets chosen by "trainers".

    • @ub3rfr3nzy94
      @ub3rfr3nzy94 2 роки тому +13

      @@fatitankeris6327 People act like it's malicious. AI are very new, we're still learning and obv it's a bit of an oversight, but yeah, most people making them are white males so it's trained on that. All we need to do is recognise we need larger datasets. This issue won't exist in 10 years. People are acting like it's deliberate.

    • @Daicarrus
      @Daicarrus 2 роки тому +4

      @@fatitankeris6327 Yeah, it's was just unfortunate, it was not really expected, but it was funny tho.

    • @tvwatch9669
      @tvwatch9669 2 роки тому +21

      @@ub3rfr3nzy94 The issue is not whether or not its a deliberate, the problem is that it exists and the game just brings up that thats a problem, not blaming individual researchers as racists, its an oversight. It demonstrates the importance of DiVeRsItY (ik everyone hates the word bc its SJW or buzzword) but seriously shows the oversight that appears in several technologies like cameras not lighting Black people or AI not recognizing Black people due to the lack of Black people or non-white people for that matter in testing. It can be very serious as in for diagnosis, AI can be extremely proficient at recognizing skin cancer on fair skin but not on other skin tones, which whether or not intentional is discriminatory and harmful. Another thing is that the thing with cameras is a new feature that Google Pixel recently touts but these considerations should not be done as fixes after the fact but should be major considerations in initial stage of development otherwise it is pretty racist to have a biased dataset that effectively labels other groups of people as an afterthought to a project that (deliberately or not) benefits one group of people.
      TLDR: Not issue bc deliberately racist, issue because it is discriminatory regardless of intent, now that people know you cant really deny that diversity has some merits past being a buzzword.
      Also people tend to recoil when its pointed out that these systems are indeed discriminatory, rather than feel concern for others that are being discriminating against initial reaction is protect their own image The game just points it out, it doesnt really say that scientists are racist but chat jumps to that conclusion in a heartbeat and goes defensive and denial with "?"s. Prevents people from saying common sense like yeah its true lets fix it, diversify datasets or development esp bc diversity is controversial and people have their knee jerk responses to that word

  • @flytelp
    @flytelp 2 роки тому +9

    12:57 if anyone is interested in this topic there is a movie called the island and it’s about this and it’s really good

  • @evaldogames5686
    @evaldogames5686 2 роки тому +7

    I like that first the chat chooses not to invade a person's privacy and then invades the privacy of the entire country

  • @mimp8365
    @mimp8365 2 роки тому +33

    They for sure had a coworker named Tyrone who was overweight and maybe not so likable but putting him in this as a train-blocker is just murder.

    • @stood6488
      @stood6488 2 роки тому +6

      Yes.
      But this murder saves lives.
      (For legal reasons I am obligated to say that I wouldn’t push Tyrone)

    • @alio9302
      @alio9302 2 роки тому

      @@stood6488 you giving your organs right now also save more lifes. Why not do it right now?
      Or is it different because its about you now.

    • @jamonnaranjo
      @jamonnaranjo 2 роки тому +1

      Same thing if you pull the leaver to kill Polly

    • @_DMNO_
      @_DMNO_ 2 роки тому +2

      @@stood6488 Actually though, in court if it could be proven that killing was the only possible way to save those 5 lives, I'm fairly certain you would be found not guilty.
      Yeah, its murder, but its justified by the heroic act of saving 5 others in danger.

    • @thatway2000
      @thatway2000 2 роки тому

      @@_DMNO_ Nah, murder is murder. It's not like you saved others and sacrificed him but you deliberately pushed an innocent to their death. Only people that can make a call like that is law enforcement and even then they'd probably still be tried. The only time where you could kill someone and get away with it is Self defense or accidental death.

  • @averytheloftier
    @averytheloftier 2 роки тому +17

    I'm gonna be honest, this ReadGraves guy has terrifying ethics

  • @superhamz7
    @superhamz7 2 роки тому +6

    58:25 love how X brings up China when the question is definitely directly referencing the patriot act

  • @Spliro
    @Spliro 2 роки тому +18

    might as well call this “chat chooses what felix chooses”

    • @Dephino7
      @Dephino7 2 роки тому +6

      no he disagreed multiple times in the beginning

    • @Surcradis
      @Surcradis 2 роки тому +1

      @@Dephino7 true .. chats starting to choose what felix choose when they start to take the questions more seriously

    • @otaviojohannjardim1702
      @otaviojohannjardim1702 2 роки тому +2

      But felix stopped saying his opinion after like 5 minutes into the vid

    • @ImHaise
      @ImHaise 2 роки тому +1

      @@otaviojohannjardim1702 and then he kept saying it not even 10 minutes later. Did you see that world question? His chat says sacrifice self, but x speaks and they switch

  • @real_rivolta
    @real_rivolta 2 роки тому

    When are you going to upload the videos in 60fps format... been waiting for this all my life, lol.

  • @roxas4587
    @roxas4587 2 роки тому +22

    27:40 if he wasn't good at his job then he wouldn't be at it. an experienced old worker is more useful than inexperienced new one if the work they have to do r same for a long time. and the young ones will be able to get new jobs anyways. x fucking swayed the chat on that one.

    • @Surcradis
      @Surcradis 2 роки тому +7

      true .. the young ones have long run on their live and get another job

    • @xllWarlockllx
      @xllWarlockllx 2 роки тому +1

      Yep, completely agree.

    • @_DMNO_
      @_DMNO_ 2 роки тому +2

      That's ridiculous. If he was so good at his job, what's stopping him from going to another company and impressing them with how skilled he is?
      "iTs BeCaUsE hE's ToO oLd!!!"
      No, clearly if he is so much better than 5 young educated employees, he should be able to nail another job with just one look at his portfolio.

    • @Jorgejtrdr
      @Jorgejtrdr Рік тому

      ​@@_DMNO_ because nobody hires old people maybe in 3 years he will retire and old people tend to have more health problems

  • @DeSlagen8
    @DeSlagen8 2 роки тому +38

    Chat is more willing to kill a completely innocent child rather than 5 people ON THE TRACK.

    • @alio9302
      @alio9302 2 роки тому

      People just vote whatever xqc says. "Girl on road? Thats her fault. Kill her"
      "girl completely off the tracks, playing in a sandpit which should be safe, fuck that girl and those 5 people on the tracks even tho they shouldnt be on the track lets save them"

    • @spikespike5661
      @spikespike5661 2 роки тому

      Kids are annoying lol

    • @_DMNO_
      @_DMNO_ 2 роки тому

      Yeah no shit. Its 5 people or just 1 kid.
      Looking at the issue purely logically, 5 adults are more valuable to society than 1 child. Simple as that really.

    • @DeSlagen8
      @DeSlagen8 2 роки тому

      @@_DMNO_ 5 people who are being irresponsible vs a child

    • @DeSlagen8
      @DeSlagen8 2 роки тому

      The child wasn’t on the track also

  • @aldintv7687
    @aldintv7687 2 роки тому +7

    the moral inconsistency of chat is so funny

    • @EatmyNut24
      @EatmyNut24 2 роки тому

      Information really does change a lot of decisions

  • @dowchbag
    @dowchbag 2 роки тому +1

    26:10 Welp that’s the exact reason why business class seats are located closer to the door than economy ones in planes

  • @lizardki115alt7
    @lizardki115alt7 2 роки тому +2

    5 people unable to move on one track but the other track had 1 person, the question never stated if that person was also unable to move.

  • @DueIou
    @DueIou 2 роки тому +4

    I love that they flashed the child tht will do the dream hospital 15:39

  • @dairygecko
    @dairygecko 2 роки тому +11

    There's only one correct answer, yours.

    • @stood6488
      @stood6488 2 роки тому +2

      Thank you Dairy Gecko.

  • @largecupenjoyer1459
    @largecupenjoyer1459 2 роки тому +2

    I don't think anyone would buy a car that'll sacrifice it's user when certain conditions are met.

  • @ganaaplayz
    @ganaaplayz 2 роки тому +1

    i love how chat change their mind whenever Felis says something

  • @jblen
    @jblen 2 роки тому +4

    This is a fun idea. Works really well as a stream too

  • @deadinfebruary
    @deadinfebruary 2 роки тому +3

    It's cool that we all got to participate.

  • @LazoGT
    @LazoGT 2 роки тому

    12:08 is literally the same problem as the "switch lanes to kill 1 instead of let 5 die" but worded a different way

  • @Notcovetslit
    @Notcovetslit 2 роки тому

    I love the different variation of the same exact question like with the 5 kids and 1 co worker.

  • @gamerslicer6641
    @gamerslicer6641 2 роки тому +17

    This game made me feel what it's like to be aware real aware

  • @ow_su
    @ow_su 2 роки тому +7

    "Silence is half consent" AUUGGGHHH?

  • @Kriegter
    @Kriegter 2 роки тому +2

    game starts with ethical question and ends with existential crisis

  • @NobleMason117
    @NobleMason117 2 роки тому +2

    Did I miss something? Why does the game keep saying "you could have saved the dog" when the prompt was either to leave it there to die or put it out of it's misery?

  • @The-Meaning-of-Life-is-42
    @The-Meaning-of-Life-is-42 2 роки тому +7

    The whole game is just XQC going “WHATT??!?”

    • @toungebone
      @toungebone 2 роки тому +1

      “I don’t understand…”

  • @latinocreamking02
    @latinocreamking02 2 роки тому +2

    i’m happy i participated in this

  • @Appelsnoes
    @Appelsnoes 2 роки тому +1

    I like that the game gives a reference for every question

  • @Filippa1.1.
    @Filippa1.1. 2 роки тому +1

    ”Actions speak louder than words” right…

  • @welsh_ml5671
    @welsh_ml5671 2 роки тому +4

    I’ve never seen chat so mad over a game 😂

  • @captainblack69
    @captainblack69 2 роки тому +7

    4:12 i mean if he actually derails the train dont the people inside the train die because of the impact

    • @imaforceanature7297
      @imaforceanature7297 2 роки тому

      No his fat body cushions the blow

    • @dinglebop5700
      @dinglebop5700 2 роки тому +3

      Very unlikely. They actually have train derailers which are commonly used. Derailing a train usually causes little to no damage.
      But also, it's a psychological question, not a real life thing bozo.

    • @bobobsen
      @bobobsen 2 роки тому

      It's a trolley you Pepega

    • @dinglebop5700
      @dinglebop5700 2 роки тому

      @@bobobsen Same concept

  • @bevivoices
    @bevivoices 2 роки тому +1

    This game straight up has you do things that anyone would do, waits 4 rounds, completely ignores the positive impacts of your prior decisions, and then holds them against you as if either choice wasn’t valid in some way.

  • @BigAndy_31
    @BigAndy_31 2 роки тому +1

    This whole test comes down to what xqc said "too bad shit happens"

  • @cameroncullen7632
    @cameroncullen7632 2 роки тому +2

    26:45 the turtles in chat had me dead

  • @Vroshir
    @Vroshir 2 роки тому +4

    Chat took completely different stances on the 1:5 trolley and heart problem. It’s interesting to note.

    • @_DMNO_
      @_DMNO_ 2 роки тому +1

      I don't understand why everyone thinks the two can be compared.
      Its 5 healthy people and 5 sick people. The sick ones have no guarantee of living full lives even if they receive the organs. The ones on the track will get up and likely go back to living healthy lives if they are saved.
      Also the means of saving the 5 sick ones is more gruesome and far more illegal. Pushing a man is nothing compared to tearing him apart.

    • @sosleepy512
      @sosleepy512 Рік тому

      because the heart one you're directly kidnapping someone and harvesting their organs to save those 5 people. the other one is a lot more indirect as in you're just pulling the lever the train is the one killing the people not you.

  • @BIGDRE805
    @BIGDRE805 2 роки тому +2

    The amount of time this dude says “whaaat” explains a lot about his explanations for these questions

  • @superhamz7
    @superhamz7 2 роки тому

    The dog one makes no sense when it is really common for people to get their old pets "put down"

  • @grownupgaming
    @grownupgaming 2 роки тому +4

    Kinda funny how XQC and Toast both have competitive tendencies and now they play many of the same games.

  • @warbearin
    @warbearin 2 роки тому +6

    Dont remember who said or but 1:00 you should not flip the switch to kill the one guy because the 5 have chosen to disregard their safety by standing on an active track.

    • @noeruxd4048
      @noeruxd4048 2 роки тому +1

      what if someone put them there against their will?

    • @roxas4587
      @roxas4587 2 роки тому +1

      @@noeruxd4048 then if u do nothing and they die the crime is upon the person who forced them there. meanwhile if u change lanes u r the one with the crime of killing an innocent person. now, if it was about the tyrone's evil brother question, then yea u kill the brother to save the ppl he lured there.

    • @noeruxd4048
      @noeruxd4048 2 роки тому

      @@roxas4587 Well, legally is really obvious I shouldn't interfere, but I genuinely think is better to murder 1 person if it means you can save more.

    • @stood6488
      @stood6488 2 роки тому +3

      You are confusing 1:00 and 7:00 . One scenario has the group of 5 unaware of the consequences of being out on the tracks, while the others have snuck onto the tracks and broken the law to be there.
      Your argument is for 7:00 , not 1:00

  • @Mikeoxsmal1987
    @Mikeoxsmal1987 2 роки тому +2

    I like how you can gauge by the answers chat gives you can guess that most twitch viewers are pretty young lmao

  • @johngligoroski8571
    @johngligoroski8571 2 роки тому

    is there more modes? or was this the entire game for single/multiplayer

  • @ad_gloriam_dei
    @ad_gloriam_dei 2 роки тому +24

    if you participated in this game you are now on a watchlist

  • @krepes8685
    @krepes8685 2 роки тому +3

    Most of these questions are ethically dubious, but if you would genuinely push that guy with the information off the roof then you're a certified psychopath. People complain about the choices of powerful people, and yet look what they'd do if you gave them power...
    (I know people don't answer these honestly but definitely a few would choose that option)

  • @Doczilah
    @Doczilah 2 роки тому +2

    I love how he’s arguing with the bot🤣🤣🤣

  • @sadlan3r585
    @sadlan3r585 2 роки тому

    Dude on the first one they said 5 people can’t move off the track. On the other track there is a person but doesn’t say he can’t move

  • @donteatwater3607
    @donteatwater3607 2 роки тому +2

    What are those random grey pics that appear for like 0.5 sec

    • @Alright_OK
      @Alright_OK 2 роки тому +1

      They show that an earlier choice impacted the current one heavily. Those gray pictures are people with crossed out eyes implicating you chose to kill those.

  • @ventic-_-1626
    @ventic-_-1626 2 роки тому +92

    This game was a master pieces love the ending. Even though xqc can be dumb at times he actually makes sense in quite a few of these especially on the one with the world at stake.

    • @Laroac
      @Laroac 2 роки тому +6

      No he doesn't? He would hypothetical kill the world instead of himself.

    • @Blubableful
      @Blubableful 2 роки тому +7

      Well it's pretty egocentric to say "If you are gone, so is the world" nah it's not, you are just not there to see it anymore.

    • @Laroac
      @Laroac 2 роки тому +2

      @@JeloOW It has never been different, you just didn't know.

    • @Laroac
      @Laroac 2 роки тому +4

      @@JeloOW Nah not at all, you gotta learn more history.

    • @wedoalittletrolling4461
      @wedoalittletrolling4461 2 роки тому

      @@Laroac exactly.
      Rome is one of the greatest examples.

  • @superhamz7
    @superhamz7 2 роки тому

    30:11 it clearly says colleagues so we can assume the car was still in testing

  • @jamesonconnz
    @jamesonconnz 2 роки тому +1

    'the car has no people do you swerve it off the road or murk a child'
    xqc: 'heres the thing what if someone is hiding in the trunk'

  • @unknownsoul9300
    @unknownsoul9300 2 роки тому +3

    Man chat has no idea dude..... I on the other hand...

  • @natsumifps2937
    @natsumifps2937 2 роки тому +3

    This's like the Fate: Zero ending lmao

  • @weewetime9331
    @weewetime9331 2 роки тому

    The timers under the leaver is just saying a bunch of weird numbers with the two last digits like 1.00 the 00s are going just random numbers always

  • @ShaneshaS
    @ShaneshaS 2 роки тому

    First problem, it never stated that the one person couldn't move, it only said the 5 people are unable to move AND there is a person on the other tracks, never stated that the one person couldn't just step away from the track, to wit the onyl right answer is to pull the lever, given this statements stands.

  • @user-tv2bk2ul9t
    @user-tv2bk2ul9t 2 роки тому +7

    "The placebo problem" is not how placebo works. You don't just stop treating patients when you give them placebo. In fact, taking a medicine without testing is a dangerous option, giving patients placebo is essentialy doing nothing to them while simultaneously gathering information about a drug in development. Some of this tests aren't well thought out.

    • @hunzukunz
      @hunzukunz 2 роки тому +2

      was my initial reaction too, but it doesnt really matter what we do in actual medicine. the problem is clear and we have the choice of doing a or b. while this isnt a realistic problem, its still a moral dilemma and works well as such.

  • @katanadog4102
    @katanadog4102 2 роки тому +3

    I always knew chat was a psychopath

  • @someguy86
    @someguy86 2 роки тому +1

    20:00 not to mention someone could just a stand in the middle of the road (not smart but they could) and the car would sacrifice the passengers. Despite the person on the road being dumb and possibly doing it on purpose.

    • @rimeman
      @rimeman 2 роки тому

      Very very good point actually

  • @Karlach_
    @Karlach_ 2 роки тому +2

    1:10:08 Was this choice edited out of the vid so we couldn't see what he chose, or is it just a normal part of the game?

    • @lilbu223
      @lilbu223 2 роки тому

      No it was just a part of the game

  • @kri5014
    @kri5014 2 роки тому +3

    Why would the chat ever chose to save a young man to kill an innocent older man like wtf why would anyone ever do that

  • @Master_3530
    @Master_3530 2 роки тому +1

    1:17 Nah that's called saving 5 people

    • @imaforceanature7297
      @imaforceanature7297 2 роки тому +1

      And choosing one person in particular to kill who probably was on that track because they knew it was safe.

  • @Child.robot15
    @Child.robot15 2 роки тому

    What he said at 13:00 about clones and organ harvesting that’s actually a movie. “Never Let Me Go” good watch on why that definitely should not be something anyone does.

  • @Halochoker
    @Halochoker 2 роки тому +10

    "that child has as much right to live as anyone else"
    *meter turns left*

    • @Burago2k
      @Burago2k 2 роки тому

      that didn't make sense lol, if the kid slips on the road why should 2 people in the car or more die

  • @turneraustin1561
    @turneraustin1561 2 роки тому +8

    for the euthanasia question, it states that it's illegal to euthanize where you are, so I find it hard to believe that anyone would go through with personally euthanizing a person even if they are begging for it. Not only would you have ti live with the fact that you killed someone, it's still ILLEGAL and you'd go to jail for it to boot. Chat is so dumb sometimes, the result should not have been as close as it was 11:16

    • @EatmyNut24
      @EatmyNut24 2 роки тому +9

      That’s your opinion but many see it differently

    • @Robert-fc9xz
      @Robert-fc9xz Рік тому

      @@EatmyNut24 People who don't think it through

  • @ChristinaMagma
    @ChristinaMagma 2 роки тому +1

    This game really kept my interest the whole time

  • @VanessaLivesInASociety
    @VanessaLivesInASociety 2 роки тому

    This reminds me of that Harvard lecture on Justice. Ethics aren't always clean cut

  • @nikoskatr3618
    @nikoskatr3618 2 роки тому +5

    14:51 one guy typed "Inject each child 5 times GIGACHAD" xD

  • @wendoversss
    @wendoversss 2 роки тому +4

    Playing these types of games with chat is a waste of time. They're like 12 years old on average, they're going to pick the edgiest option because they think it's cool and funny.

  • @amorfatikhb
    @amorfatikhb 2 роки тому

    27:45 not making a decision here, but I gotta say that a lot of older people are forced to retire bc they become so experienced that companies can’t afford them anymore. they replace the experienced people for fresh graduates who still need a lot of training. not inherently bad, but just don’t automatically assume they’re not good at their job. those same older, experienced people can’t find another job afterwards bc now their salary is too high for anyone to want to hire them.

  • @waamaagaming1287
    @waamaagaming1287 2 роки тому

    36:06 UA-cam subtitles be like : that is music brooo less go

  • @TripDip22
    @TripDip22 2 роки тому +25

    for the trolly problem Xqc says "you chose to kill someone" which is true but i think you also chose not to save five people

    • @stood6488
      @stood6488 2 роки тому +16

      Inaction in itself is deliberate. And if you deliberately choose to “not make a choice,” your choice led to an outcome.
      Telling oneself that they are not at fault for something because they chose inaction, therefore “freeing them of blame” helps them cope with trauma. These kinds of people lack conviction and shouldn’t be trusted to carry out these hard choices.

    • @XanderFenikkusu
      @XanderFenikkusu 2 роки тому +1

      @@stood6488 I disagree. Inaction is neutral.

    • @Karlach_
      @Karlach_ 2 роки тому +14

      @@XanderFenikkusu Inaction is a choice. You are fully aware that you could change the outcome but do nothing instead which allows the current course of action to come to completion. Once you are aware of a problem or choice, you become a factor in it whether you like it or not

    • @xllWarlockllx
      @xllWarlockllx 2 роки тому +5

      @@XanderFenikkusu
      Inaction still a choice, because you actively choose to do nothing at all.

    • @koifish528
      @koifish528 2 роки тому +2

      @@XanderFenikkusu The choice is between pulling the lever or not, inaction is not pulling the lever