Renault Megane RS 280 Cup: Road Review | Carfection 4K
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Henry Catchpole takes the Renault Megane RS 280 Cup out for a full review on the road.
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Best looking hot hatch right now
Its got 4 doors, I just can't except that being called a hot hatch .. Its a mini wagon in reality, a Fagon if you will.. It weights too much, and tries to over come its obesity issue by throwing more power at it.. When the real problem, is its just too big..
Then what is a Lancia Delta HF Integrale EVO2?
Wasted
A very old Italian death trap that ended the greatest race series ever by putting a gas tank under the drivers seat?
Just after the Type R maybe.
I had the older model back in 2011 ish (250bhp / cup / Recaro / 19” etc.) and I have to admit, the damn thing could still put the fear of god in me even after 12 months of owning it! Amazing car.
I’ve since had kids though, so now I drive a fucking C220 estate 😂
Lol! Made my day with that comment m8
Mate spot on! I've got a 275 Trophy and my god can it really expose you as a fast driver.
Reno sure know how to make a hot hatch even going back to the Reno 5 turbo they are all good in there own right
Well once they grow up you’ll be free to get another Renaultsport ;)
Im also a huge fan of the Renault audio controls, they are fantastic and have so many functions hidden away but eaily manouvered
isnt it extemely annoying beeing only able to use the controls when you're going straight? sorry for bad english...
I dont usually steer with both hands, and the clean steeringwheel without buttons is niceer than one ull of outdated looking horrible buttons.
okay, thanks
blabla62871 well, what if i'm on a curvy street without any straits?
Goddamn if that isn't the best looking hot hatch in its class, another outstanding review as always!🖤
It looks great
I reckon it looks like a delta integrale. Only thing, get the standard 18s with the cup pack
Amazing review and amazing videography, as always.
2:57 That sequence is just magnificent
I'd swear you can see the effect of the rear-steer!
Mikeado66 Definitely, the way that rear end comes around is poetic
Kaisuke971 yes, but i wonder if it really makes a lot of difference.
Jarek Nowak If it didnt, all the road cars under 7 minutes on the Nürburgring wouldn’t be using it.
Kaisuke971 all the "sub 7 min" cars also have 500++ hp. Nur has not many tight corners. Its not so easy to judge, for me. In my familly we had 4ws car already in 1986. It was Prelude. Handling was very, very impressive, but i still dont know how much 4ws system helped bc i never drove the same car without it, for comparsion.
Saw one of these in a car park in Nice a few days ago.
Looks a lot better in person.👍🏼
"It also has four-wheel steering, like a 911 GT3 or Ferrari 812."
Or a 1988 Honda Prelude ;-P
I heard somewhere that the Prelude was the first car with four-wheel steering.
It's a great thing that Renault still uses that system which first appears in the Laguna 3, even the current Espace uses it.
Wrong. 1985 Nissan R31 Skyline was the first modern car with it. First tractor had it in 1893 or thereabouts.
And the 1989 citroen zx
i just love the presentation of Henry Catchpole so much
probably why Carfection has adopted him so fully!
probably why Carfection has adopted him so fully!
First time listener, auto buff and co-owner of a company developing supercars; Love your stuff and you obviously know your lines, pun intended :) Keep it up and thanks.
The last gen was already pretty damn agile, i can only imagine how this feels with its 4wheel steering. Also i love that they kept the styling relatively simple and didn't stick tons of spoilers to it. Shame that they didn't really work on the manual though, the shifting feels way too rubbery in the 3rd gen
Wow! what a tremendous review. Gotta remember the predecessor was said to have a steering feel almost identical to a Porsche GT3.
Another outstanding video chaps, well done and thank you.
Best looking hatch for sure. Shame the Alfa Giulietta is so outdated
the best looking hot hatch in the market, in person, with that orange colour. Also a fan of the renault audio controls, the most comfortable way of change your volume while driving.
Enjoyable ,informative ride alongside you , 😎
I am in love with this car. Great video, beautiful roads.
Best reviewer/writer out there. -- Keep up the good work!
Always a pleasure seeing Henry's thoughts. Amazing videography as well. How about a hot hatch round-up in Wales?
Really nice review. You are one of my absolutely favourite car show hosts. And the car is fab
Excellent review.
Somtimes journalists think too much about who will buy a car - like here, about this being in no mans land. Few people think - 'I want a hot hatch that's primary for the street so will get a GTI' or 'I want a hot hatch as a second car that can be really compromised so I'll get a type R'. A lot of people however think - this looks very cool - I'll have that one. I'm a GTI person myself, but I can see how this looks much more sporty, but not 'highschoolish' like a honda. I will get buyers on the looks alone, and it does have 280hp and stuff.
Josekpl
The thing is, the reviewers are meant to do these things. They have to consider the buyer-- at least if they're good at their jobs. A strictly opinionated reviewer leads to what we have as the norm:
Loud reviewers who scream and shout without looking out for the consumer, and who are so biased that they'd try to convince their audience why their preference is better for certain cars.
They'd say "These hatch backs are fast and all, but just buy an M3/Corvette! It's the same money and is just better!" Without thinking who the car is actually for-- people like you abs I who like hatchbacks.
I think I didn't make myself clear. This is clearly a car for someone who already decided that hot hatch is the way to go, which is already pretty specific if you ask me. So the buyer is someone who wants a fast hatch. But saying that among this group of people, this is in no mans land as it's too hardcore for everyday use, but softer than the Type-R for the track is IMO incorrect. If someone already knows that is going the hot hatch route, it will be things like brand loyalty, the looks of the car, personal preference that will lead that person to their own choice. As I said earlier, among those people, very few will go into such details as comparing small differences in practicality, ride quality or track performance. Hot hatch is mainly an emotional buy and winning in the looks department (for some people) will be enough to pull the trigger. That said, I loved the Clio RS, but after having driven one, I realized it's perfect for having fun, but I would not want to own one to drive everyday as the ride was punishing - that's enough for me - out of ~100k miles I put on my GTI, 400-500 were on a racetrack. Cheers
It is so sad we can't get this Megane in the US. I'll buy it over any of its competitors any day of the week, twice on Sundays. As ALWAYS, brilliant review Henry.
Nice review H.
Lovely review for a stunning car ! My Next Summer Daily no doubt !
Great review. And I completely agree about the Renault media controls behind the steering wheel. Best in the business for sure. I’m going to miss those when I hand my current car back in a couple of months.
Except for when you get the automatic with the flappy paddles and you are mid corner, trying to change gear, but instead you change the song on the radio.
Leroy de Leeuw the button to change input is on top so not the type of action of a paddle shift. And to change radio station is a scroll wheel so also nothing like a shift. The only things that you can do with a pulling action are vol up and down or radio on and off
Perhaps I should have elaborated further: the problem I have is that the paddle shifts are actually oddly placed upwards behind the wheel, because of said media keys. That means that in a right-hand corner, you might have problems reaching the right paddle because of your hand being too far away from the paddles. For me, interfering with the driving offsets any advantage by having media keys close.
This video illustrates my point: ua-cam.com/video/YeCSTZLRXE4/v-deo.html&t=225
Leroy de Leeuw Fair enough. I can’t really comment as the Zoe doesn’t have any paddles. I would like them to add regen paddles though because they give you even more control over how you want to slow down. Most EVs are getting them now. The Zoe was designed to be an approachable first EV for people so they didn’t include a lot of techy EV features.
I’m pretty sure they can do it in a way that doesn’t cause problems because you’re generally only going to be using the paddles when you’re going in a straight line. As far as performance cars with paddles, I can see why it might cause an issue if you’re turning. Are you shifting when the wheel is at 90 degrees?
I guess the main problem is that they’re not mounted to the wheel directly. But then I guess that’s more because they don’t expect you to be shifting while turning than because they can’t mount them on the wheel.
great review Henry, I always like your stuff...but one thing I can't agree on with you (and many, many of your motoring journalist colleagues around the world), is that the suspension is too stiff for daily driving. I just bought an RS 280 Cup EDC (in Flame Red metallic...delicious!) for my wife to replace her M135i, and it is a perfectly fine daily drive!
believe me when I tell you that she's NOT a rev-head - she just likes her quick hatches - and she has no issues with it. I also think it's even (slightly) more comfortable than the Bimmer! seriously, people who complain about the chassis on this car must normally drive a super-soft SUV/large car daily...they're awesome. :)
Lawd I love that exhaust note ❤️❤️❤️
Great Video Review. One of the Best Hot Hatches on the road
Love the slow-mo at 2:55...
Proper review!
I want one, great video
Amazing videography
Amazing car
Amazing place
really good review. With the good and bad
Surprisingly, the Trophy version is now announced (post-filming, no doubt) and is coming sooner than expected. Very interesting!
Will that mean an even stiffer set up!
Same Cup chassis but comer w/ Recaro buckets mounted lower to the floor, and different 19" wheels std, plus option for even lighter wheel and stickier tyre combo.
Oosh21 it will have loads of more things.. more power etc etc.. but what they should doos to make it a coupe ONLY that wpyld be awesome. 1200kg 2 door 😍✊💦
this trophy SUCKS. It's jut cosmetic and ECU tuning for a completly insance price (10K € tax in france) . Wait for the real trophy. The Trophy-R !
ABo MALA i would'nt use suxk when it comes down to Renault.. remember they tried this on track and itcgad better corner speed then civic type R. It loses to much on the straight doh vs civic.. trophy R will beat the insane lap of civic no doubt..
When will you be test driving the Trophy version?
I have this car but in titanium grey and with the eighteens. It is a car that begs to be thrashed and I love it, the exhaust in sport/perso mode is rally car like too with the pops and bangs. And the best bit is it’s costing me peanuts.
What a gorgeous car! Regardless of the critidisms, I still want this car. If you can drive the older models as a daily (I currently have an 07 Clio RS), then you'd be able to drive one of these. Surely.
Either way, enjoyed the video, was nice to hear an honest review. As with all cars, there's always room for improvement.:)
If only I had the money I’d go out tomorrow and buy one
I love the orange color, but damn it looks sexy in white too with black accents
What a handsome car. Great review too.
Definitely one of the better Megan RS reviews.
Perfect combination of car too - Cup Chassis, the Orange paintwork with black 19inch wheels and a MANUAL 6spd transmission.
The only criticism from me - no CD player!?! Sorry I'm old school when it comes to music media
Mr Catchpole and Megane RS CUP I put like before to see!!!
Love the noise of that 😎👍.
Don't care what anyone says, that Megane look awesome. Better than anything else. Buy it because of the effort put into that design instead of boring GTI from the medieval days.
After 3 megans I have the same feeling about media controlls :)
Could I import one for track use in the US?
Just Magnifique !
Still a fantastic looking car. We wanted one but they were discontinued in the UK when we went to place the order. We were pretty disappointed as we wanted a brand new one to keep. May get a second hand one now though.
That Trophy will be mine
Sounds like there'll be a market for Quaife to fit a diff to standard cars, seems like the best of both worlds.
ACL Motorsport or pay £1500
renault is really stepping up their game. Amasing car
How do you find the hard suspension, too hard for road use?
How does it compare to the i30n performance?
The standard fit Bridgestone S001 tyres probably don't do the low speed ride quality any favours as they have really hard sidewalls. A switch to something like a Michelin PS4S would reaps huge benefits with the 19s, as they've transformed my Mk3 Megane RS in this respect.
I don't think the old car, the 275, had any feel from the steering wheel. It was a really great steering rack but it was electric at the end of the day, I just think the push rod setup and the way they set the weight and lack of variable steering was great. That coupled with the seemingly unending lateral grip on the road made a driver think the steering rack was good. Was a fun car to drive, sounds like the new 280 could be even better so long as theres no stupid variable steering rack. I hear the steering rack comments a lot in the new 280 reviews though. Wondering if its a bit fake or sloppy.
Agreed, off centre there was a vagueness too.
A proper handbrake.
Monteiro only paired with manual gearbox and torsen diff. The edc gearbox comes paired with electric handbrake, and can't have torsen diff.
pokest225 the edc will be available with the diff by Q4 this year
Fred UK good. Any car like this needs it.
The audio controls are great on the manual but on the auto they have forced the paddle shifters to not protrude down low enough. I believe it's the same gearbox as the previous model, but it does feel different and I think it's due to the gear knob. My son also complained about the stitching on the steering wheel but I have absolutely no issue with it ... I guess it's one of those things that you either don't notice or if you do drives you nuts. I have both the 2013 RS265 Red Bull edition and the 2019 RS 280 Cup, and I haven't really been able to decide which I prefer driving in anger, but the new one is definitely much easier to live with as a daily driver. Both have shitty software , but at least I can read the instrument cluster on the new one :-)
All in all they are both great cars. My wife has the 2018 GT Megane with the EDC gearbox and for a 1.6L it's not bad at all. Certainly Renault Sport do a great job :-)
The I.C.E. joystick looks basically the same as my old Renault 21 turbo!
My Megane RS arrives this week, sorry Henry have gone for the EDC box and standard non cup chassis. For my commute which involves the traffic of the autobahn around Stuttgart nothing else made sense.
Sounds great
how can you tell if it is a cup or not really easy? by the red brembos?
The Megane would do well here in the US, considering that we don't have that many hot hatches. Seems like an overall nice five door.
it's a shame all these European hot hatches don't make it to the US
I wonder what it is stopping them from making it over there?
Mark Denyer i think it's the overall complicated and costly testing procedures and modifications that stop small European manufactures from coming to the US.
Americans don’t like hatches.
Mark Denyer - costs vs income.
Totally agree on the volume controls 😂
I wish Renault would come to the states.
This car looks AMAZING. I think the Megane's look good in general but the RS is just ... wow
Great review. I still wouldn't chop my R26 in for it though. At least it's in the best colour!
Where was this shot?
Catchpole, hot hatch. Like! Every damn time
No mention of the rear wheel steering?
The question is is this car going to be reliable for people that want to buy it
Having a fiesta st would changing it to Renault be the best thing to do considering there history?
Manual Shifter ?
How would you compare this car with the Peugeot 308 GTI?
I think it looks excellent, great shape and the wheels really suit it. I also agree on the Audio controls best I’ve used in a car and safe to use while driving, unlike others positioned ON the steering wheel (ford etc)🤔 Don’t really understand the gripe about the steering wheel stitching it’s the same on all ‘sporty’ wheels is it not??
Best presenter.. ever
i dont get it why renault forces you to get the cup suspension if u want the slip diff...
Looks good
Great video and great car! Like from me.
Best looking Renault in year's
YES! Aston Martin DBS followed by this car so quickly after? 👍🏼
The older model would come out on top but....I wonder how this Megane RS stacks to the new Cupra...perhaps the 4 wheel steering are an advantage
Perfection
Should have had the Cup chassis with adjustable dampers for a more comfortable ride in day to day use.
Please test drive Seat Cupra
I wonder if you can take the limited slip diff. without the stiffer suspension , that would be perfect!
Nope, you can only get it in a cup pack.
They should really fix the positioning of the front number plate...
.... and make the Renault badge smaller
Another Catchpole pearle!
Renault's audio controls are the best! Don't have Renault anymore and miss the well laid out controls
Carfection, how did you know I wanted to look at a Renault Megane RS video today? :|
Im curious about Trophy version. Do they just stiffen the dampers a bit and recalibrate ecu or it will be really a "mental" hardcore drivers car? Also their MT is sloppy for years now, cmon Renault :|
can't wait when polyphony add this car into gran turismo sport. another op megane
The question is would this be better then the Focus ST 2019?
I've got the same question. Focus may have the advantage in the adaptive damping. The Renault Cup suspension is said to be very stiff. Plus Focus will be less expensive.
Wish we can get these cars in the states 😢
No option for the diff without the cup suspension. Shame. Put it on 17s with higher tyres. More to lean on, more comfort.
Ok what's the roads.. it's Wales but where?
SAVAGE car but the RS badging on the front looks like HALFORDS finest
probably the only hatch I would get caught driving
Top review , great lookig car, but it sounds like the trophy is going to be the 1.
2:26 & 6:37 what does that "ARAF" SLOW stand for on the road.
'ARAF' means SLOW in the Welsh language. This is filmed in Wales. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Wales
You live in Chester and you didn’t know that????? You’re on the welsh border, it’s everywhere
Not one mention of engine, power delivery, sound? strange.
How can you do a review that so balanced and Drew basically records an Audi scripted advert!?
This car sounds right up my street. If you are buying a proper hot hatch it should feel the part all the time. I'm sure some would like the diff without the suspension...