2020 Python vs S&W 686

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  • Comparing two similar revolvers, the 2020 Colt Python and the S&W Model 686. Both are chambered in .357 Magnum with four-inch barrels.
    First Video with S&W Model 686-1: • S&W Model 686 -1 .35...
    First video with 4" Colt Python: • 2020 Python 4.25" Barrel
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  • @marcf9622
    @marcf9622 3 роки тому +197

    4:10 “The less experience you have; the less difference you notice.” Simply Profound

    • @Greyswyndir
      @Greyswyndir 3 роки тому +10

      It's pretty much common sense, not exactly profound. You're easily impressed. I can do this neat trick with my finger, I think you'd like it.

    • @Logan912
      @Logan912 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, and like he says, it can be applied to pretty much anything. It’s like when you’re starting out playing guitar and you want that $1000 Fender, but until you learn your way around a guitar then you won’t really know what makes it cost so much compared to a cheap Squire which in a lot of ways is just as good.

    • @NotoriousMastaG
      @NotoriousMastaG 2 роки тому

      @@Logan912 except the colt costs more than the SW lol

    • @Ensign_Cthulhu
      @Ensign_Cthulhu 2 роки тому

      You gotta start somewhere!

    • @johncox1570
      @johncox1570 5 місяців тому

      Well he is ex English teacher lol

  • @MrInshoreslam
    @MrInshoreslam Рік тому +121

    I have wanted a Smith and Wesson 686 since a co-worker showed me his over thirty years ago. For what ever reason during that time i was never able to get this "dream gun". I had resigned myself to the fact that of all the guns i have collected over those thirty plus years I just was never going to ever own this gun of my dreams. On Christmas morning the one and only present under my tree with my name was a beautiful 686 from Santa. i cried like a baby. Today I placed my first order for .357 ammo and i am looking forward to shooting it with my son for the first time after my next chemo treatment. Thanks for a great video Hickok45.

    • @jeremyclarkson-69
      @jeremyclarkson-69 2 місяці тому

      Happy for you pal,this is also my dream gun ,may god bless you 💪🏼🇺🇲

  • @earnestsmith9696
    @earnestsmith9696 2 роки тому +207

    Tough decision between the two. I ended up buying both (Wife doesn’t know yet). No regrets. I always look forward to taking them to the range. They are extremely accurate and fun to shoot. They are shooting machines. Python 2020 is 4.25” and 686 Plus is 4”. I hate my Dad died before he had a chance to see and hold them in his hands. He taught me all about revolvers. Update-just got the Colt Python 3 inch. It’s awesome.

    • @davidschaadt3460
      @davidschaadt3460 2 роки тому +12

      She will get over it and learn to love them.

    • @boricuaarecibo9259
      @boricuaarecibo9259 Рік тому +4

      I'm going to get one I just have to smuggle it into the house
      I have a 686 plus 4" a 586 4" and a 629 6.5" but I really need a 4.25" colt python

    • @LordJesusChrist1968
      @LordJesusChrist1968 Рік тому +2

      I'm telling your wife Earnest...just kidding LOL 🤫

    • @earnestsmith9696
      @earnestsmith9696 Рік тому +8

      @@LordJesusChrist1968 LOL,She caught me cleaning them. She is ok now.

    • @earnestsmith9696
      @earnestsmith9696 Рік тому +1

      @@boricuaarecibo9259 that’s a solid collection!

  • @abevigoda3149
    @abevigoda3149 2 роки тому +15

    My dad loved the python so much he amassed a great collection, 27 of them in every barrel length and finish, my mother always bitched him for spending so much money to get them, now that great collection is worth a small fortune, I wish I was back in Texas to shoot the ones he used, several of them are brand new in their box, never used.

    • @captainbuck5969
      @captainbuck5969 Місяць тому

      My dad was a Python fan too. Me, I stuck with S&W. I wish I was back in Oklahoma.

  • @alanpruett2217
    @alanpruett2217 3 роки тому +969

    The Python is the beautiful girl that commands your attention, while the 686 is your faithful wife. Love both revolvers, but have more faith in the 686.

    • @hickok45
      @hickok45  3 роки тому +240

      Good one!

    • @pe.bo.5038
      @pe.bo.5038 3 роки тому +71

      Well,then there is your French mistress,aka MR-73,and your German Fräulein aka Korth! Though choice!

    • @pe.bo.5038
      @pe.bo.5038 3 роки тому +10

      @PatienceZero you bet,he knows them,but probably nobody of bis friends owns one

    • @hughmongous2554
      @hughmongous2554 3 роки тому +12

      Was about to make the same comparison! One looks and feels absolutely gorgeous, but you still marry the other.

    • @glenspryszak6005
      @glenspryszak6005 3 роки тому +11

      @PatienceZero
      A Korth probably starts at $3500 so is it really worth it"? Yes, if you live 75 years and shoot it every day.

  • @mvinge
    @mvinge 3 роки тому +238

    Hickok’s pot smoking joke never gets old

  • @TheChaddie81
    @TheChaddie81 3 роки тому +176

    He always amazes me with his accuracy.

    • @austinstratman1809
      @austinstratman1809 Рік тому +1

      Best shooter since Henry McCarthy!

    • @Smitty_76
      @Smitty_76 5 місяців тому

      😆@grizz2532

    • @dougdownunder5622
      @dougdownunder5622 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm in awe.
      The way he sets his upper body / arms is something to see.

  • @ellisonlowrimore7751
    @ellisonlowrimore7751 3 роки тому +52

    Today I did a comparison and they both feel, operate, and shoot nicely. Price point is the Python is more than double the 686. I wanted a Python since the 80’s so I went that route.

    • @troydixson1394
      @troydixson1394 Рік тому

      Why didn't rugar go with a key lock just curious?

    • @josephpreston3550
      @josephpreston3550 Рік тому

      @@troydixson1394 Had to do, as I understand it, with S&W being bought by a British company which made them subject to some US law abut foreign made firearms having to have a safety to sell in the US. I hate the Hillary Hole but I'm glad that S&W is still around. Ruger has always been US owned.

  • @jskrawz4611
    @jskrawz4611 3 роки тому +225

    I told my boss back in the early 90's that I wanted to buy my first gun... He was a gun nut so he took me to his favorite gun store and showed me a 686-3... 6" And next to it was a Python same length but much more expensive... He said they had issues and I should buy the Smith... 20 years later I'm glad I followed his advice... What a tack driver...

    • @rushfanjames2112
      @rushfanjames2112 3 роки тому +13

      JS Krawz I had a similar choice also. Buying my first revolver, between a used Colt Python which costs more than a brand new 686, I chose the 686. Was never a fan of the Colts because of the cylinder release, chintzy reason I know lol. Seriously, both are great guns.

    • @jskrawz4611
      @jskrawz4611 3 роки тому +15

      @Al Primo Nope... It's to big and bulky to conceal somehow on my fat ass body... Now technically Michigan is an open carry state but you're just asking for trouble...

    • @jamesbarry6979
      @jamesbarry6979 3 роки тому +25

      Only had my 686 for For 1 year
      Had to Branish it in phila last week.
      Guy road rages me, boxes me in
      3 blocks from Art Museum, gets out of his car, and swings a
      Bully club at me sitting in car!
      Got windows up as he was approaching , he threatening me
      And I draw revolver in Broad daylight! Almost shot the Guy,
      Only because I was armed!
      He ran back to his car and took off
      Thanks Smith + Wesson!

    • @Ethercloud
      @Ethercloud 3 роки тому +8

      @DemonSlayer ByKnight take it a step further, I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I have the right to defend myself.

    • @jamesbarry6979
      @jamesbarry6979 3 роки тому +4

      @DemonSlayer ByKnight it happens so quick, I didn't know
      He was getting out of car"
      He had tint windows,, and hid
      Billy club than snapped it out!
      I was scrambling to get window
      Up! As soon as I did, than I pulled our Revolver! Game changer!
      Guy acting like Rioter!
      Many he saw my NRA decal,
      And he simply got mad I passed him from inside lane???.

  • @R.Tafolla
    @R.Tafolla 3 роки тому +265

    Hickock pointing at Colt Python: “This is brilliant...”
    Hickock now points at SW 686: “but I like this”

    • @ironmonkey1512
      @ironmonkey1512 3 роки тому +27

      hes dead on with 686

    • @keithschneidly3922
      @keithschneidly3922 3 роки тому +2

      The Troopers were/are a nice way to go. They had simpler actions than the Pythons, no underlug however. That being said a 586 or 686 has that beautiful underlug.

    • @Heywoodthepeckerwood
      @Heywoodthepeckerwood 3 роки тому

      @@00buck2 you’ve never shot any of them have you?

    • @Heywoodthepeckerwood
      @Heywoodthepeckerwood 3 роки тому

      @@00buck2 well,,, I can count to like a bazillion....

  • @jamesolsen350
    @jamesolsen350 3 роки тому +50

    I had 3 Pythons that I sold. A 2.5" a 4.25" and a 6" bought new, beautiful looking weapons. The little hand that turns the cylinder failed me when I need it the most. Went and bought a Smith & Wesson 686+ 4" barrel. Then bought a 586 with a 3" barrel from Performance Center. Then found a Smith & Wesson 66F with a 3.5" barrel had to have it.
    All the Smith & Wesson have performed flawlessly. I do miss my blue 4" Python. I sold it to a friend of mine. He lets me look at it from time to time. Then my wife left me. Now I am happy.

    • @fredb.8383
      @fredb.8383 2 роки тому +6

      Great story!

    • @davidschaadt3460
      @davidschaadt3460 2 роки тому +5

      The real snake is gone?

    • @Dusty11408
      @Dusty11408 2 роки тому +3

      I carried a Blue steel 6” Colt Python in the late 80’s early 90’s. You couldn’t beat the heft of that pistol and the smoothness of the trigger pull. The cylinder release broke while qualifying at a range day. Turned out a 5 cent spring broke which prevented the cylinder from releasing and rotating out for a reload. Glad it happened when it did. Ultimately I retired the Python and went back to my Departmental issued S&W 4” .38 revolver for on-duty carry. I loved carrying that Python though. 😎

    • @davidstamper7313
      @davidstamper7313 3 місяці тому +1

      Well said David😂

  • @randyfurness5588
    @randyfurness5588 2 роки тому +20

    I had the same dilemma with my favorite caliber wheel guns. The solution: my wife bought a Colt Python. I have a Smith 586. My son has A Ruger GP100. All great revolvers. Quality and shootability about the same. We purchased the Python back in the 1980's when they were reasonable. I definitely wouldn't pay twice as much for the Colt.

  • @raymondreed2772
    @raymondreed2772 3 роки тому +45

    I have owned a 3" 686 since the mid "90s and I love it. I admire the beauty of the Python and would be proud to own one of them as well. These are two awesome firearms that anyone would be fortunate to have in their arsenal. Note: The 686 is heavy for concealed carry so I carry a Ruger EC9S far more often here in hot and humid Florida.

  • @coldteawater1716
    @coldteawater1716 3 роки тому +394

    This guy never runs out of ideas and always seem to to make us happy when we watch his vids.

  • @rickqueen2751
    @rickqueen2751 3 роки тому +35

    I've had in my possession a 6 inch 686-3 since 1989 that I paid $319 for brand new. It has never misfired and likes whatever ammo I put thru it. The best group I ever got was one ragged hole with all 6 shots at an indoor range at 50 ft. Averages 1 1/2 to 2 inch groups all day. Still looks new even with all of the magnums put downrange. No major maintenance ever done except when one chamber got out of time sending a round 3 or 4 inches from the group. S&W sent me a new cylinder at no cost ( lots of kudos to a company willing to do that) and groups are back to normal. It's a gun that just works. I'll never sell it and it will be in the family for a long time. Heard the python was having timing issues. Don't know if that's been corrected, but I just can't justify the price of the new pythons if they're defective.

    • @martincorona322
      @martincorona322 Рік тому

      That’s awesome! 1989 is my year, too!

    • @rickqueen2751
      @rickqueen2751 Рік тому

      @@martincorona322 Thanks. Only accurate guns are interesting. Did you mean you have a 686 from 1989 or that you were born in that year? Just curious.

    • @martincorona322
      @martincorona322 Рік тому

      @@rickqueen2751 I was born that year.

    • @rickqueen2751
      @rickqueen2751 Рік тому

      @@martincorona322 Cool.

  • @TheNclandbroker
    @TheNclandbroker Рік тому +56

    The S&W L-frame is the ultimate workhorse revolver, particularly the older pre-lock versions. Bull-strong, durable, well-balanced and smooth shooting. I definitely like the Python/Trooper as well, but for basically the reasons you cited I prefer the S&W.

  • @ricksvendsen5755
    @ricksvendsen5755 3 роки тому +19

    The 686 was my first duty weapon as a U.S. Probation Officer, before we transitioned to the Glock .40. I still have mine, and consider it a piece of art.

  • @rickmogensen7706
    @rickmogensen7706 3 роки тому +37

    I have a older 686 in 4 inch, love it more than all my other hand guns!

    • @trancus11
      @trancus11 2 роки тому +1

      I have a 686 6” and it’s a tack driver. Especially with 38 specials. It’s like shooting a 22.

  • @mossymae
    @mossymae 3 роки тому +4

    I just recently bought a prelock 686 plus in a 4 inch, with rubber hogue grips. Absolutely love it. My favorite pistol. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Its 330 am in Oklahoma. Always love me some Hickok 45 when I can't sleep at night.

  • @blairmorgan3029
    @blairmorgan3029 2 роки тому +53

    I have a 6” 686 and it’s a very nice revolver to shoot. Accurate, reliable and just looks nice with the unfluted cylinder and satin finish. During comps I would struggle with the cylinder latch on the Python.

    • @raguilard
      @raguilard 2 роки тому +6

      I got a S&W polished stainless steal 6" 686 with a 4 power scope. I had the same gun and scope 35yrs. ago and lost it to a pawn shop. About 20 years ago a guy I worked with had the same gun. He was needing money so I bought the ss 686 for $250.00 that I have now. I also have a M&P 40 w/a laser and I have put hundreds of rounds threw it and never had it to jam or misfire. S&W makes very good guns and I will be buying the new M&P 9mm CSX or the spec series kit.

  • @u140225
    @u140225 3 роки тому +48

    I purchased a 586-4” back in 1998, have always loved the feel and incredible accuracy of this handgun. Just as demonstrated in this video, the Smith is always on target at 5, 10, 25, 50 yards and beyond with little effort. #love S&W586/686

    • @paulwilliams8555
      @paulwilliams8555 2 роки тому +4

      I just want to know I have a 686 stainless what kind of people purchase the 586

    • @ricksworlddereaux2397
      @ricksworlddereaux2397 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly,the old S&W Revolvers are the best in the World.🇺🇸👍🤔But the new ones are not at the same Qualitylevel,because profits stands before Quality these days in the USA..thats why most best Handguns now are European.🤔🇪🇺🇺🇸

    • @rogercole5054
      @rogercole5054 2 роки тому +5

      @@paulwilliams8555 People who like blue guns, duh. A buddy of mine hates what he calls "shiny guns" and won't buy ANY stainless gun. I like both, but I kind of prefer blue myself in a revolver.

    • @Ed-ig7fj
      @Ed-ig7fj 2 роки тому +4

      Hey Bud, you are right. These 686's are so good at almost any range that I call mine 'pocked rifles.' Happy shooting! --Old Guy

    • @boricuaarecibo9259
      @boricuaarecibo9259 Рік тому

      ​@@paulwilliams8555 I have a 586-8 classic and it's my favorite

  • @mse3700
    @mse3700 3 роки тому +200

    I've watched this video three times and I keep coming back to the same question... did the hat come with the shirt?

  • @BuddWolf
    @BuddWolf 2 роки тому +17

    I owned a 4” 581(a 686 in blue, with fixed sights) and shot it up against my friends Python. In the end, the only differences were,1/4” longer barrel and the cylinders rotate in different directions. Other than that,both revolvers performed magnificently. Thanks for👍🏼 sharing the video post and best of luck 🍀to you and your family 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻❤️🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀

    • @dittman2564
      @dittman2564 5 місяців тому

      586 is the blued version

  • @BryanSmythe
    @BryanSmythe 5 місяців тому +3

    I was firearms instructor OKC PD for 23 years and Jack Garret was range master from the mid 50 till his retirement. There was never a colt revolver that complited the 5 days of shooting the PPC requireing 500 rds a day with out having a malfunction of some sort which required repairs. Mod 15 Mod 10 Mod 65 Mod 66 were the most prevelant until we transistioned to semi autos.

  • @Mike0405H
    @Mike0405H 3 роки тому +85

    I like how when John zooms in, you can see the bullet hit it’s target before the sound reaches

    • @69CamaroSS
      @69CamaroSS 3 роки тому +19

      Watch careful;y with slower rounds and you’ll see the bullet in flight as it approaches and then hits the gong....never gets old see those!!! 👍👍

    • @similaritiesendhere
      @similaritiesendhere 3 роки тому +3

      The bullet hitting the target is what makes the sound. Of course the sound comes after the bullet hits.
      If the camera were next to the target, you'd see the bullet hit before you heard the actual gunshot (not the gong). That phenomenon is not in this video.

  • @willstarnes1246
    @willstarnes1246 3 роки тому +110

    Worst mistake I ever made was selling my 6" Smith 686

    • @dizzywow
      @dizzywow 3 роки тому +2

      Me too!

    • @wolfgangdavid8121
      @wolfgangdavid8121 3 роки тому +2

      I did two sell my stainless six inch 686 in the nineties to a township fireman that kept bugging me MISTAKE but still have a model 19 six inch stainless

    • @beargunn7820
      @beargunn7820 3 роки тому +4

      @Will Starnes Yep, I feel your pain, Will. I made that same mistake some years ago myself... still hurts. Just bought the 6" 2020 Python this week. It's gorgeous, but still miss the 686.

    • @brianharris4275
      @brianharris4275 3 роки тому +1

      Me three!

    • @kbm-zw5jd
      @kbm-zw5jd 3 роки тому +1

      I sold a 4” 686 and I surely regret it, but the worst deal I ever made was trading a 686 no dash 2.5” even up for a 5906 that I wanted at the time. Gun even had Combat grips. I’d never carry it and it wasn’t much of a range gun but I should have insisted on cash on top of the gun.

  • @marshallwillis371
    @marshallwillis371 2 роки тому +12

    I had a 686 and my buddy had a Model 19. When we would go to the indoor range there was an immediate change in the acoustics of the range. Both shot well and were accurate. I had a bit more muzzle flare due to the 4" barrel compared to his 6" however both were a joy to shoot and view.

    • @user-su1uk9cb1e
      @user-su1uk9cb1e 4 місяці тому +1

      形はM19,M66の方が圧倒的に美しいが、耐久性はLフレームのM686が必要。
      バレルの形だけKフレームの物みたいに出来ないんですかね?

  • @cptsmkwgn
    @cptsmkwgn 3 роки тому +11

    For my money (having learned DA on a Colt) I find the Colt latch more intuitive because it helps me "pull" the gun over to dump empties. I suspect the real difference is what one is more accustomed to

  • @thomaswoosley4821
    @thomaswoosley4821 3 роки тому +230

    Back in the 80s Walmart sold handguns. When they decided to quit selling them, they marked down a Python to $450. I thought I needed $450 more than the Python so I passed. If I knew then what I know now!

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 3 роки тому +21

      There was one at a local shop yesterday, $3,000.

    • @Rick-tb4so
      @Rick-tb4so 3 роки тому +18

      @@3ducs I have never paid over MSRP for a car and i am not starting with a Colt..
      S&W 686 is 1/3 the price of a Colt..

    • @FlawlessRevelation
      @FlawlessRevelation 3 роки тому +25

      450 dollars in the 80s is close to 1,500 in today's market... Plus 40 years of storage, didn't seem like you missed much.

    • @jamesoncross7494
      @jamesoncross7494 3 роки тому +1

      If you put the money in the stock market, you would have been much better off.

    • @TheRealZJE313
      @TheRealZJE313 3 роки тому +2

      What is the price today

  • @trucker85d47
    @trucker85d47 3 роки тому +79

    Love the 686 it was my duty gun back in the 80’s still have it to day great gun to shoot love your videos 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @MaineOutdoorsChannel
      @MaineOutdoorsChannel 3 роки тому +3

      Model 686 is a LOT of weight to carry... For me the Model 19 is a lot lighter to carry

    • @adar7198
      @adar7198 3 роки тому +1

      Whatever it is,welcome to the 21'st century

    • @Ligmanuttz
      @Ligmanuttz 3 місяці тому

      @@MaineOutdoorsChannelgrow up

  • @vphls
    @vphls 2 роки тому +13

    My first handgun purchase when I was in college came down to my budget. I preferred the beautifully smooth double action of the Python, but it was $400 in blue compared to the 686 in SST around $200. I always regretted that I didn't buy a Python when I had more money, but I still have that 686 for some 37 years and it has been a great and accurate gun that gave me the confidence to hit anything at which I aimed. Now looking at new Python and it's more affordable relative to my pay but still hard to justify at today's prices when there are so many great guns out there.

    • @josephpreston3550
      @josephpreston3550 Рік тому +1

      Neither one will get cheaper in our lifetimes. Hell, they may beat the S&P 500.

  • @FungiHealthCoach
    @FungiHealthCoach 3 роки тому +31

    The first gun I bought was a 6 inch 686 and it is my absolute favorite out of all the guns I have shot. Thanks Hickok for all the great videos!

    • @mikelee6936
      @mikelee6936 Рік тому +2

      I also have 2 686's. 6 inch and 4 inch stainless steel. I brought the 6 inch to a [ocal gun store to see if I could sell it. The guy took my gun and said I will be right back. He went into the back and returned 15 mins later and handed me my gun. He said, run you an add in the paper or on the internet to sell your gun. I said why? He said his boss won't pay over $ 250 for the gun. I said ok, what is it worth? He said, $ 800 to $ 1000 dollars. I found an honest man that day. I thanked him and walked out. Have never put the gun for sale.

    • @GreekGuru74
      @GreekGuru74 Рік тому

      @@mikelee6936 how do you like the 6inch vs 4inch? I'm torn between both lengths.

    • @mikelee6936
      @mikelee6936 Рік тому

      @@GreekGuru74 I am the same way my friend. The reason I have one of each. The six inch is very heavy even in a scabbard.

    • @GreekGuru74
      @GreekGuru74 Рік тому

      @@mikelee6936 which one do you prefer to shoot? I'm a skinnier guy, I don't think I'd carry either of them on me, but they look like great shooters and something to take to the range.

    • @mikelee6936
      @mikelee6936 Рік тому

      @@GreekGuru74 GreekGuru. I can't say which one that I lean towards, either one is a great shooter and looks new. They are both several years old but have not lost their stainless gloss or mechanical working. The 4 inch is somewhat easier to hold and handle, but the 6 inch is a hell of a pistol to shoot. Very accurate and beautiful to look at. The 4 inch has seen a little more use, but is a fine gun also. Don't know what to say to you other than that.

  • @kmech3rd
    @kmech3rd 3 роки тому +22

    "Fusion" round. Not gonna lie, I was half expecting a tiny mushroom cloud when that monstrous bastard hit. It's like an Atomic Annie you can hand hold.

  • @hobbs3710
    @hobbs3710 3 роки тому +26

    I couldn't agree more! Shot 300-500 rounds a month back in the 80's as a reserve police officer and range enthusiast. The 686 was the gold standard. Thanks to the muscle memory / experience I'm probably a wheel gun guy till the day I die! Thanks for all the fun and informative range videos! I agree the Python is the prettier gun but at the cost of a less than instinctive cylinder release latch.

  • @enlilannunaki9064
    @enlilannunaki9064 Рік тому +18

    The Python in 4.25” barrel is just a mesmerizing work of art. ❤

  • @tinman8518
    @tinman8518 3 роки тому +52

    I've got a 1981 Python and a S&W 686 from the 90's. As beautiful as my Python is, I'm personally more accurate with the 686. I love both.

    • @crunch9876
      @crunch9876 3 роки тому

      Does your 686 have a transfer bar? Or just a firing pin on the hammer?

    • @tinman8518
      @tinman8518 3 роки тому +2

      @@crunch9876 Mine is a S&W 686-3 with a 4" barrel. It has the firing pin on the hammer.

    • @crunch9876
      @crunch9876 3 роки тому

      @@tinman8518 ah ok mine also has a firing pin on hammer and I’m trying to find out what date it was made. I purchased it used

    • @keithhartman9946
      @keithhartman9946 3 роки тому

      Same barrel length?

    • @tinman8518
      @tinman8518 3 роки тому

      @@keithhartman9946 Actually my Python has a 6" barrel and my 686 has a 4" barrel.

  • @lukeg2230
    @lukeg2230 3 роки тому +12

    "Dont bother me; I'm busy." I love this giant.

  • @Unrealistic-o9c
    @Unrealistic-o9c Рік тому +36

    686 any day. Carried 4' on duty for years. When we transitioned to semi autos (mostly for round capacity), it was a letdown.

    • @francischambless5919
      @francischambless5919 Рік тому +4

      Same here. I admit even having grew up out in the country shooting rifles that whole time, I couldn't hit a damn thing with a handgun. My firearms instructor in the academy set me straight with a 4" S&W model 686. Went from tied with worst of 68 people to a tie with the best before completion, so I was proud of that. Finally bought my own 686P but with the 6" barrel a year ago and it's my go to for a shoulder harness ltc. Amazing firearm.

    • @TheRobman139
      @TheRobman139 Рік тому +6

      Police were never better armed than when they carried .357 wheel guns. Period.

  • @oscarsmith1741
    @oscarsmith1741 3 роки тому +6

    The first gun, pistol or long gun, I ever purchased, way back in 1982, was a 4" Smith & Wesson Model 686. I have 35+ pistols and revolvers in my gun safe today, but the one I love the most is that 686. I don't shoot it as much as I used to. I spend more time these days with my EDC pistol (Glock 48X) and full size home defense pistol (Beretta 92FS w/G mod) but my beautiful 686 has the prime spot in my little arsenal.

    • @dapawaz8310
      @dapawaz8310 5 місяців тому

      I have a 4" 586 I bought in the mid 80s I feel the same way about. It's the last firearm I'd ever part with.

  • @patrickmessinger9476
    @patrickmessinger9476 3 роки тому +18

    I have been blessed to own 3 S&W 686 in my life, and ever single one of them was an excellent firearm.

  • @JSTRonline2
    @JSTRonline2 3 роки тому +17

    Python: Target gun
    686/586: Distinguished Combat Magnum

    • @MayheM_72
      @MayheM_72 3 роки тому +2

      When did they start selling guns at Target? LoL

  • @laughslapproductions4690
    @laughslapproductions4690 3 роки тому +52

    *Damn this guy’s a good shot*

  • @EvilE22
    @EvilE22 2 роки тому +1

    Nothing of real value to add other than I love your videos Mr. Hickok45! 🥳

  • @MThrow
    @MThrow 3 роки тому +145

    I bought a 6" Python in '81 and it was in that gorgeous bluing that was almost black. One of the sexiest revolvers ever made.

    • @Docsjeff
      @Docsjeff 3 роки тому +12

      That Royal Blue finish on the Python was AWESOME!!!

    • @brandoncoomer7867
      @brandoncoomer7867 3 роки тому +6

      I have one just like it, still in the box and plastic wrap

    • @AudibleVisibIe
      @AudibleVisibIe 3 роки тому +4

      @@Docsjeff royal blue? I don't think it's royal blue....

    • @nightrider5109
      @nightrider5109 3 роки тому +3

      Beautiful piece you picked up

    • @dennisritchie965
      @dennisritchie965 3 роки тому +2

      @@AudibleVisibIe I believe that's what colt called there process.

  • @bobbycraigue725
    @bobbycraigue725 3 роки тому +12

    Delightful man cave evening watching Hickok 45 on UA-cam, comparing a Colt Python vs S&W 686!

  • @Ironhide1283
    @Ironhide1283 Рік тому +1

    Always enjoyable videos honestly could watch the shooting and gun talk all day.

  • @donnajanegrimsley1640
    @donnajanegrimsley1640 5 місяців тому +1

    You are correct about not being used in competition, however many many people used them for duty weapons in the 70s and 80s.

  • @TomFox1
    @TomFox1 3 роки тому +31

    “u don’t pay attention to what I say” 😂😂😂😂 hickok45

  • @reinoldwalser8501
    @reinoldwalser8501 3 роки тому +7

    I've had my S&W 5" Model 27 for 45 years and I still love it. It looks as good as the day I bought it, but I am more gentle with her these days shooting standard 38 special instead of hot 357 reloads like in the early years. In 1984 I got to shoot my uncle's 4" Python. It was a beautiful stainless steel version but I couldn't quite enjoy it as I did my gun. Like Hickok says, shoot what feels right for you. Thank you for the videos. I have passed on this channel on to my oldest son, my daughter-in-law, my grandson, and my granddaughter. They have learned a great deal from you and enjoy the wit.

    • @terminalreset18
      @terminalreset18 3 роки тому +2

      I would like to opine that I feel that the original S&W 357 Magnum, which is the 27, is possibly the best handgun ever made. It's versatile, long-lasting, accurate, and affordable. If you can't solve your problem with 6 rounds of 158gr from a 5-6" barrel on one of these, you are in the deep stuff.

    • @39MercFlathead
      @39MercFlathead 3 роки тому

      Back in the 70s I had 6 1\2 in Model 27. Fantastic shooter. I've always wanted a 5 inch, but never found one.

    • @39MercFlathead
      @39MercFlathead 3 роки тому

      @@terminalreset18 I agree 100%. As a former OSS officer I knew who carried a Browning Hi Power behind German lines in WWII told me, if you can't solve the problem with the rounds you have, to hell with reloading. Close to knife range. You never run out our cold steel.

  • @tjjohnson1272
    @tjjohnson1272 3 роки тому +7

    I got my first Python in 1974. $279. My Momma had to sign for it as I was only 20 years old. I shot it in competition throughout the 70s and 80s. After 10K rds I had to send it back to factory for re tuning. Since, I’ve shot another 5K or so rds. Needless to say I’m a colt guy. Yes, I confess, I also own a S&W 686.

    • @sensatec13
      @sensatec13 3 роки тому

      By “re-tuning” do you mean that the cylinder went out of timing?

    • @dougdownunder5622
      @dougdownunder5622 2 місяці тому

      Wow

  • @foolishtook2727
    @foolishtook2727 5 місяців тому +2

    I've had more people come and inquire about buying my 686 than any other guns I own. It has been my first gun and I do not ever plan on selling it. It's a beautiful and reliable revolver.

  • @davidmayo4120
    @davidmayo4120 3 роки тому +23

    I have a 6" stainless steel 686-6. I love it, nice smooth trigger.

  • @arthurdevain754
    @arthurdevain754 3 роки тому +31

    I bought a Ruger "Security Six" in 1973 brand-new for $89.00. To open the cylinder you neither push a slide forward nor pull a button backward. You press a button into the frame. It werks fyne!

    • @jimbokyzar8170
      @jimbokyzar8170 3 роки тому +2

      I got a stainless security six 4 inch last yr in a trade. I like it and wonder how it compares to python and 686.

    • @arthurdevain754
      @arthurdevain754 3 роки тому +3

      @@JohnSmith-hm7eh In 1874 you could by a brand-new Colt Single Action Army Revolver for a twenty-dollar gold piece. You still can, based on the daily spot price of gold.

    • @totizabayle377
      @totizabayle377 3 роки тому +1

      That's a revolver that I really like outside of my Smiths. I prefer it to the GP100.

    • @dirtydan73
      @dirtydan73 3 роки тому +1

      The issue with buttons is a lack of leverage. If it gets stuck, there’s nothing you can pry it against.
      Check out Kalashnikov Group’s ice test - prime example

    • @fredcgodwin7660
      @fredcgodwin7660 3 роки тому +1

      Jimbo Kyzar with Hogue grips on it, you have the superior revolver.

  • @johncarmichael4698
    @johncarmichael4698 Рік тому

    How do I relax . I watch you shoot. Good memories of my younger years.
    Family ❤ appreciated

  • @russelllmetcalf
    @russelllmetcalf Рік тому

    Reeves Jungkind was my firearms instructor in Texas Highway patrol school. He was a Colt master pistol smith. He did a trigger job on a python for a friend of mine. There was no comparison. Outstanding. We had a few guys lucky enough to carry a K frame Smith for a short amount of time when we still carried wheel guns. Most of us had model 28’s smiths and they were fine, but Reeves was much like you and could make any pistol outstanding.

  • @DanielFrankHoffman
    @DanielFrankHoffman 3 роки тому +19

    I just love your revolver videos, so much better than the automatics!

  • @gradybrowning3976
    @gradybrowning3976 3 роки тому +36

    The Python is a thing of beauty, and quality.

    • @Man-vs-Metal
      @Man-vs-Metal 5 місяців тому

      It was. Now they make them with a QR code on the frame.

    • @Man-vs-Metal
      @Man-vs-Metal 5 місяців тому

      It was. Now they make them with a QR code on the frame.

  • @blackbaxter1
    @blackbaxter1 3 роки тому +2

    Glad I stumbled across this channel. This guy is cool. Great info too.

  • @silvercobra3373
    @silvercobra3373 Рік тому +8

    I bought the GP100 7 Shot 357/38 and like it a lot. I have also purchased the S&W 686 6 shot 387/38 and waiting on the 10-day waiting period before I can pick it up. Both with the 4-inch barrel.

    • @robd.4768
      @robd.4768 Рік тому +2

      Another very happy GP 100 owner here. 6 shot, 4” barrel, stainless.

  • @ryancarter5200
    @ryancarter5200 3 роки тому +17

    I have a Colt Python made in 1965 and I love it.

  • @Captain_Crayzay
    @Captain_Crayzay 3 роки тому +3

    I basically had a 686 fall in my lap 12 yrs ago. I had no idea back then what a sweet gun it is.. What a blessing!

  • @cliftonwhittaker260
    @cliftonwhittaker260 Рік тому +5

    My favorite revolver right now is the S&W 646 4" with the S&W rubber boot grip. I've never had another revolver that had such a natural point of aim. Right on the target. And sweet to shoot.

  • @308blr2
    @308blr2 Рік тому +5

    Years ago two at our club competed with Pythons. Most shooters purchased used S&Ws because they were available, affordable and easy to service. Pythons seldom appeared on the used market and new ones cost triple compared to a used Smith. The Python was smooth and accurate. Everyone admired the Pythons; and S&W shooters often said they just didn’t want to compete with anything so beautiful.

  • @richardshippful
    @richardshippful 3 роки тому +9

    My favorite firearm is my 4" 686+. Love the balance, trigger, and looks.

  • @briananderson8733
    @briananderson8733 3 роки тому +21

    I found that I liked the 686 over the python. Most of the time I have looked for the two guns the 686 is MUCH less expensive. The Python runs around 2k. As a retired gunsmith the python is harder to tune than the 686. At least to me.

  • @MikeJw-je4xk
    @MikeJw-je4xk 3 роки тому +1

    "while i'm thinking of other lies to tell you" lol, watching hickok45 videos are always Fun!

  • @joelspringman523
    @joelspringman523 Рік тому

    They're both fantastic, so, as much as I enjoy and appreciate Hickok 45's videos, I don't need to watch this.
    My .357 Magnum revolver is a stainless steel Colt King Cobra with a 4" barrel. I'm very happy with it.

  • @wldtrky38
    @wldtrky38 3 роки тому +31

    I bought a 686 a cpl years ago. No regrets.... I would like to have a Python, just because it's a Python, but it's twice the price. Beautiful pistol, but I doubt I'll ever spring for it.

    • @wldtrky38
      @wldtrky38 3 роки тому +1

      @Joseph Babica 😉👍 I've always loved S&W.

    • @wldtrky38
      @wldtrky38 3 роки тому

      @Joseph Babica They are sure beautiful pistols !! I've owned a few Colts thru the years 1911s and New Frontier .22s, all were A+, First Class weapons ! Enjoy your new Python 👍👍

  • @nathany8065
    @nathany8065 3 роки тому +35

    If cost was not an issue, I would have gone with a nickel plated Python back in the 80's. However, cost was a big issue back then for me and I went with a 6" 686 with Pachmyr combat style grips. Best wheel gun I've ever owned. Thanks for the video. Nice to see that after all these years, the 686 is still a quality gun.

  • @williamgburnett
    @williamgburnett 3 роки тому +4

    Nice review and comparison! Smith and Wesson also make over revolvers in this caliber that cost as much as the Python, though they are generally larger and heavier options.

  • @rays3812
    @rays3812 Рік тому +59

    It's crazy how good his aim is. I can barely hit a target at 20 feet!

    • @peterw3544
      @peterw3544 Рік тому +9

      This. I bought both Python and Anaconda but I’m absolutely horrid at shooting them. Semiautomatics are so much easier to shoot. With revolvers I’m bad single and double action.

    • @nchcroy3877
      @nchcroy3877 Рік тому +9

      This gentleman could hit a postage stamp at 1000m blindfolded... he is absolutely incredible. Love his work.

    • @pchmm
      @pchmm Рік тому

      @@peterw3544 Could have something to do with the grips. Have you tried other grips than the stock? Also, have you sighted them in properly from a bench rest? Both the new Python and Anaconda are known to have poor rear sights which wobble around and don't keep a zero well. Finally, are you shooting 357 mag only or have you tried some lighter loads ie 38 special to mitigate recoil?

    • @peterw3544
      @peterw3544 Рік тому

      @@pchmm it’s more me problem than revolver. I just don’t know how to shoot them.

    • @rays3812
      @rays3812 Рік тому

      @grizz2532 He's so lucky then. Ammo is too expensive, I can't afford to practice 😭

  • @al01100
    @al01100 3 роки тому +48

    I prefer the smiths as well. Not sure how many rounds have gone through my first 686 but, it's been many thousands downrange and it's never given me any trouble

    • @moosa9850
      @moosa9850 3 роки тому

      @@Krobear ppl always telling me revolves are useless, better to get a pistol, I think pistols are more reliable imo. Was in two minds.

    • @shanejones578
      @shanejones578 2 роки тому +1

      @@moosa9850 pistols can’t shine revolvers shoes in reliability.

  • @tobparker
    @tobparker 3 роки тому +7

    Hicock is looking svelt these days. I hope you’re healthy and well. I have enjoyed your content for years, and this is another great example. The 686 is on the wish list for me.

  • @nakotahunt1324
    @nakotahunt1324 4 місяці тому +3

    Python is just so smooth. Pythons are special. They aren't made for just anybody to go buy. They are a functional collectors edition while the 686 is just a hand cannon. I have a 686 plus with 7inch barrel and I love it but the python is just a different feeling.

  • @MrLarrybyrne
    @MrLarrybyrne 3 роки тому +36

    I especially like the 686+ with 3" barrel. Great for concealed carry. Hard to find though

    • @dmherman4208
      @dmherman4208 2 роки тому +4

      It has been elusive since it was approved for boot gun by many departments and military. They are sure not giving them away either once you find one!

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 Рік тому

      Have you found one yet?

    • @MrLarrybyrne
      @MrLarrybyrne Рік тому +1

      @@walden6272 GunBroker always seems to have a few. I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. (sorry...bad dad joke.)

    • @Night_Walks
      @Night_Walks 4 місяці тому

      ​@@MrLarrybyrne
      How about now? You get one yet? 🙃

    • @MrLarrybyrne
      @MrLarrybyrne 4 місяці тому

      @@Night_Walks unfortunately no. Other life expenses getting in the way.

  • @jlayjr
    @jlayjr 3 роки тому +20

    When he shoots the cowboy at 6:50 listen to how long the metal rings.

  • @judahspell5887
    @judahspell5887 3 роки тому +22

    Two of the most beautiful guns ever!

  • @waynedavis7245
    @waynedavis7245 2 роки тому +9

    Two fantastic hand guns . You couldn't go wrong with either. I liked the trigger on my colt a little better, than the 686 . But that's just my opinion. But loved both guns .

  • @terryrutherford2114
    @terryrutherford2114 3 роки тому +2

    I like the Python too but can't justify the price. I have two 686 magnum + (7 shot) one 6 inch and one 2.5 inch barrels. Had the 6 inch for over 25 years, got the short barrel 2 years ago. Love them both. Thanks for the video.

  • @timothydaymude5341
    @timothydaymude5341 3 роки тому +3

    I really enjoy watching you Hickok 45,and I will be looking for your new videos.

  • @DebasishSundarRay
    @DebasishSundarRay 3 роки тому +38

    Python is an absolute beauty among any revolvers

  • @jim5148
    @jim5148 3 місяці тому +1

    The smoothest and maybe even the lightest double action pull I've ever experienced was on a Python. I hope the newer ones are as nice as the older ones.

  • @FSCAlexander
    @FSCAlexander Рік тому

    Who needs audio balancing when you've got hickok45... an official youtube hero.

  • @RileyReneau
    @RileyReneau 3 роки тому +8

    Every time I see a video with a S&W 686 I am reminded of how incredible my 1st gun is! I am also reminded every time I see Hikock shoot it, that im the reason I cant hit the target.

  • @1970HondaCL100
    @1970HondaCL100 3 роки тому +496

    Hickok: likes the Python but bought the 686; and that’s all you need to know about that.

    • @dustinrowe5226
      @dustinrowe5226 3 роки тому +40

      Just can't beat a smith and wesson

    • @miwokguy34
      @miwokguy34 3 роки тому +18

      @@dustinrowe5226 Unless it has a lock built in

    • @bnighter
      @bnighter 3 роки тому +34

      the hillary hole

    • @jzi4
      @jzi4 3 роки тому +8

      @@miwokguy34
      Does the lock effect the way the gun shoots or something?

    • @davejones67
      @davejones67 3 роки тому +7

      jzi4 no it’s just cause

  • @funkfarmer7125
    @funkfarmer7125 Рік тому +3

    My 4" 686 plus is still one of my top 3 favorite pistols in the collection for so many reasons. I just love the gun.

    • @davidholcomb70
      @davidholcomb70 5 місяців тому

      I have the same gun. It is an excellent gun.

  • @leroymorris6036
    @leroymorris6036 3 роки тому

    Thanks again for your videos guys!

  • @kylewood8327
    @kylewood8327 3 роки тому +26

    S&W 686 all the way for me! My first two guns (back in the early 80’s) were a model 19 and 686. For some reason I sold them. Forward to 2020 I found a 686, 7 shot PLUS, just an awesome gun! This one is not going anywhere.

    • @zackzander425
      @zackzander425 3 роки тому +1

      I got a 686 7-shot plus too. I can’t miss with it. Would never part with it.

    • @shanejones578
      @shanejones578 2 роки тому

      I’ve got a 63 nickel m19, however my python even as a 2020 is my favorite.

  • @jamesholmes6900
    @jamesholmes6900 3 роки тому +6

    686 is a beautiful gun. My father was issued one from the Border Patrol back in '88. Still have his Bill Jordan holster, the bullet loops, the river belt. I bought a 586 back in December and every time I shoot it, I think of my father who passed away 2004. The training he got, all the changes that happened in Law Enforcement since then. Wish I could have had his Beretta 96D he carried when he passed, but I had to make my own.

  • @2002jaiden
    @2002jaiden 2 роки тому +2

    I just picked up a 686-3 last Friday!! Beautiful gun!

  • @Ryan2022
    @Ryan2022 Рік тому +2

    I know nothing about how each of these shoot, etc. I will say this: I was at my local gun store a few days ago and at the counter someone was buying a new python. He opened the case for me. You have to see that gun in person. It is a work of art like a Rolex watch.

  • @TartanJack
    @TartanJack 3 роки тому +14

    Late in life to firearms the first revolver I ever picked up and had to have was a 686.

  • @bobalouie2413
    @bobalouie2413 3 роки тому +11

    Great comparison! Love the look of that Python rib, but that cylinder release always put me off. (I'll even take a Ruger Security Six cylinder release over the Colt's). So I'd get an action job on my 686 and found that the full length underlug kept me pretty happy, especially if you get a 686 with an unfluted cylinder like they made in 1986.

  • @implayingsomebass4753
    @implayingsomebass4753 3 роки тому +51

    I love Pythons, hands down my favorite revolver of all time. Never shot the 686 and was unaware of the cylinder release on them, makes way more sense to push forward than pull back. Might have to try one out!

    • @howardjohnson6584
      @howardjohnson6584 2 роки тому +3

      The S&W S/A trigger is the best there is.

    • @markorkarenhanes1354
      @markorkarenhanes1354 2 роки тому +2

      @@howardjohnson6584 I concur.

    • @kingoftampa
      @kingoftampa 2 роки тому +1

      @@howardjohnson6584 while i agree that the 686 is probably better than the python, i personally think my colt has a nicer trigger than my smith, but who knows being all hand built the trigger may very from gun to gun and my python may just have a really nice trigger. 686 is undoubtedly a beefier more durable wheel gun though.

    • @HarryCallahan-c8e
      @HarryCallahan-c8e 2 роки тому +2

      Although I don`t care for the cylinder release on the Colt Python, I`ll take that EVERY DAY over any other revolver, including and especially a s&w. I JUST got my brand new Colt Python 4.25", and I`m going to shoot the crap out of it and hand it down to my son.

    • @howardjohnson6584
      @howardjohnson6584 2 роки тому +1

      @@HarryCallahan-c8e You can do that with a smith and still have money left over to buy ammo.

  • @vannmann9597
    @vannmann9597 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy your video's. They are very informative and accurate. I have been contimplating the same decision between these two guns for about 4 months now. I made the decision today, as I purchased the S&W in 6". I got a great deal on a slightly used 686-6 Plus Deluxe (saved me $150 over new). The cost difference (NEW) between the Colt & S&W in 6" is $1450 vs. $925 respectively. I went with the Plus Deluxe (7-shot) which would run about $50 more. By the way, another difference between the two is that the Colt chambers clock-wise, and the S&W chambers counter-clockwise. If you don't load a full chamber, keep that in mind.

  • @dobermanpac1064
    @dobermanpac1064 3 роки тому +39

    I’m a home boy from W Hartford Ct home of Colt. A long time ago Colts and their employees experienced a lengthy strike and my family started buying S&W’s. We still do. Nuff said.
    BTW we left W Htfd decades ago for the Piedmont of N C. We too shoot in the back yard 🤠

    • @bglk2310
      @bglk2310 3 роки тому +6

      I'm stuck in New Britain for a few more years then moving to a gun friendly state myself. Glad you and your family made it out. Things only getting worse here in Ct.

    • @davejones67
      @davejones67 3 роки тому +4

      bglk2310 try living in Canada!

    • @robertphifer7955
      @robertphifer7955 3 роки тому +3

      Greetings to fellow Tarheel!

    • @soccergolfball1269
      @soccergolfball1269 3 роки тому +2

      Next do

    • @larrytischler570
      @larrytischler570 3 роки тому +4

      Why should Americans follow the socialist unions into oblivion? I'm no fan of Colt but the unions tell us to vote against our right to keep and bear arms. Get a life.

  • @3ducs
    @3ducs 3 роки тому +39

    Bought two revolvers today. A S&W 29-2, 6", nickel plated, in the presentation box. And then picked up a Colt Detective Special and couldn't put it down, got that too since the 4473 was already approved. There was a very nice Python there but at $3,000 I passed. Ammo is short, there is a 24 hour wait on getting state background checks done, things are getting interesting, and not in a good way.

    • @QuietMikeW
      @QuietMikeW 3 роки тому +2

      You got 2 guns in one day and took them home?! That sounds so crazy and free, here in CA it takes about a month and 3 trips to the gun store +huge markups to get one gun...back when you could, everything is gone now.

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 3 роки тому +4

      @@QuietMikeW I bought the Smith yesterday, state background checks used to take around a half hour, now more like 24 hours. But I could've taken four guns home today, they would've just been added to the 4473. New Hampshire is a free state, a Constitutional carry state, any lawful citizen may carry a concealed firearm without the need for a permit. Throw in no sales or income tax for good measure. Does that make you feel better? On the other hand winters are cold and long.

    • @John-hw3ds
      @John-hw3ds 3 роки тому +2

      Mike I live in Florida and if made it in and out in 20 minutes when I bought my 5.56, but that was last year.

    • @stealthman6617
      @stealthman6617 3 роки тому

      Let me guess... Greentop?

    • @scooterbob4432
      @scooterbob4432 3 роки тому +3

      I always wanted the older classic Colt Detective Special but ended up with a pinned barrel S & W Model 60.

  • @DKWalser
    @DKWalser 3 роки тому +6

    W/R/T the cylinder release, I think a lot depends on what you started shooting with. I've always found the S&W release to work backwards. But then, I learned to shoot on a Colt.

  • @danielread1942
    @danielread1942 6 місяців тому +2

    I also have both and love them. Your views and thoughts are just how I feel as well. Life is good.

  • @RomanianAlphaDaddy
    @RomanianAlphaDaddy 3 роки тому +7

    Love these new Colts so much. My new Cobra is the perfect carry revolver. I got it and a RAMI BD the same day. Then I got a Kahr T9 Elite yesterday...a couple of months later. All amazing carry guns and amazing shooters. That Cobra just stands out though.