I have wanted a Smith and Wesson 686 since a co-worker showed me his over thirty years ago. For what ever reason during that time i was never able to get this "dream gun". I had resigned myself to the fact that of all the guns i have collected over those thirty plus years I just was never going to ever own this gun of my dreams. On Christmas morning the one and only present under my tree with my name was a beautiful 686 from Santa. i cried like a baby. Today I placed my first order for .357 ammo and i am looking forward to shooting it with my son for the first time after my next chemo treatment. Thanks for a great video Hickok45.
Yeah, and like he says, it can be applied to pretty much anything. It’s like when you’re starting out playing guitar and you want that $1000 Fender, but until you learn your way around a guitar then you won’t really know what makes it cost so much compared to a cheap Squire which in a lot of ways is just as good.
Tough decision between the two. I ended up buying both (Wife doesn’t know yet). No regrets. I always look forward to taking them to the range. They are extremely accurate and fun to shoot. They are shooting machines. Python 2020 is 4.25” and 686 Plus is 4”. I hate my Dad died before he had a chance to see and hold them in his hands. He taught me all about revolvers. Update-just got the Colt Python 3 inch. It’s awesome.
I had 3 Pythons that I sold. A 2.5" a 4.25" and a 6" bought new, beautiful looking weapons. The little hand that turns the cylinder failed me when I need it the most. Went and bought a Smith & Wesson 686+ 4" barrel. Then bought a 586 with a 3" barrel from Performance Center. Then found a Smith & Wesson 66F with a 3.5" barrel had to have it. All the Smith & Wesson have performed flawlessly. I do miss my blue 4" Python. I sold it to a friend of mine. He lets me look at it from time to time. Then my wife left me. Now I am happy.
I carried a Blue steel 6” Colt Python in the late 80’s early 90’s. You couldn’t beat the heft of that pistol and the smoothness of the trigger pull. The cylinder release broke while qualifying at a range day. Turned out a 5 cent spring broke which prevented the cylinder from releasing and rotating out for a reload. Glad it happened when it did. Ultimately I retired the Python and went back to my Departmental issued S&W 4” .38 revolver for on-duty carry. I loved carrying that Python though. 😎
My dad loved the python so much he amassed a great collection, 27 of them in every barrel length and finish, my mother always bitched him for spending so much money to get them, now that great collection is worth a small fortune, I wish I was back in Texas to shoot the ones he used, several of them are brand new in their box, never used.
I told my boss back in the early 90's that I wanted to buy my first gun... He was a gun nut so he took me to his favorite gun store and showed me a 686-3... 6" And next to it was a Python same length but much more expensive... He said they had issues and I should buy the Smith... 20 years later I'm glad I followed his advice... What a tack driver...
JS Krawz I had a similar choice also. Buying my first revolver, between a used Colt Python which costs more than a brand new 686, I chose the 686. Was never a fan of the Colts because of the cylinder release, chintzy reason I know lol. Seriously, both are great guns.
@Al Primo Nope... It's to big and bulky to conceal somehow on my fat ass body... Now technically Michigan is an open carry state but you're just asking for trouble...
Only had my 686 for For 1 year Had to Branish it in phila last week. Guy road rages me, boxes me in 3 blocks from Art Museum, gets out of his car, and swings a Bully club at me sitting in car! Got windows up as he was approaching , he threatening me And I draw revolver in Broad daylight! Almost shot the Guy, Only because I was armed! He ran back to his car and took off Thanks Smith + Wesson!
@DemonSlayer ByKnight it happens so quick, I didn't know He was getting out of car" He had tint windows,, and hid Billy club than snapped it out! I was scrambling to get window Up! As soon as I did, than I pulled our Revolver! Game changer! Guy acting like Rioter! Many he saw my NRA decal, And he simply got mad I passed him from inside lane???.
I have owned a 3" 686 since the mid "90s and I love it. I admire the beauty of the Python and would be proud to own one of them as well. These are two awesome firearms that anyone would be fortunate to have in their arsenal. Note: The 686 is heavy for concealed carry so I carry a Ruger EC9S far more often here in hot and humid Florida.
I had the same dilemma with my favorite caliber wheel guns. The solution: my wife bought a Colt Python. I have a Smith 586. My son has A Ruger GP100. All great revolvers. Quality and shootability about the same. We purchased the Python back in the 1980's when they were reasonable. I definitely wouldn't pay twice as much for the Colt.
The Python is the beautiful girl that commands your attention, while the 686 is your faithful wife. Love both revolvers, but have more faith in the 686.
The 686 was my first duty weapon as a U.S. Probation Officer, before we transitioned to the Glock .40. I still have mine, and consider it a piece of art.
I've had in my possession a 6 inch 686-3 since 1989 that I paid $319 for brand new. It has never misfired and likes whatever ammo I put thru it. The best group I ever got was one ragged hole with all 6 shots at an indoor range at 50 ft. Averages 1 1/2 to 2 inch groups all day. Still looks new even with all of the magnums put downrange. No major maintenance ever done except when one chamber got out of time sending a round 3 or 4 inches from the group. S&W sent me a new cylinder at no cost ( lots of kudos to a company willing to do that) and groups are back to normal. It's a gun that just works. I'll never sell it and it will be in the family for a long time. Heard the python was having timing issues. Don't know if that's been corrected, but I just can't justify the price of the new pythons if they're defective.
The S&W L-frame is the ultimate workhorse revolver, particularly the older pre-lock versions. Bull-strong, durable, well-balanced and smooth shooting. I definitely like the Python/Trooper as well, but for basically the reasons you cited I prefer the S&W.
Today I did a comparison and they both feel, operate, and shoot nicely. Price point is the Python is more than double the 686. I wanted a Python since the 80’s so I went that route.
@@troydixson1394 Had to do, as I understand it, with S&W being bought by a British company which made them subject to some US law abut foreign made firearms having to have a safety to sell in the US. I hate the Hillary Hole but I'm glad that S&W is still around. Ruger has always been US owned.
I purchased a 586-4” back in 1998, have always loved the feel and incredible accuracy of this handgun. Just as demonstrated in this video, the Smith is always on target at 5, 10, 25, 50 yards and beyond with little effort. #love S&W586/686
Exactly,the old S&W Revolvers are the best in the World.🇺🇸👍🤔But the new ones are not at the same Qualitylevel,because profits stands before Quality these days in the USA..thats why most best Handguns now are European.🤔🇪🇺🇺🇸
@@paulwilliams8555 People who like blue guns, duh. A buddy of mine hates what he calls "shiny guns" and won't buy ANY stainless gun. I like both, but I kind of prefer blue myself in a revolver.
I also have 2 686's. 6 inch and 4 inch stainless steel. I brought the 6 inch to a [ocal gun store to see if I could sell it. The guy took my gun and said I will be right back. He went into the back and returned 15 mins later and handed me my gun. He said, run you an add in the paper or on the internet to sell your gun. I said why? He said his boss won't pay over $ 250 for the gun. I said ok, what is it worth? He said, $ 800 to $ 1000 dollars. I found an honest man that day. I thanked him and walked out. Have never put the gun for sale.
@@mikelee6936 which one do you prefer to shoot? I'm a skinnier guy, I don't think I'd carry either of them on me, but they look like great shooters and something to take to the range.
@@GreekGuru74 GreekGuru. I can't say which one that I lean towards, either one is a great shooter and looks new. They are both several years old but have not lost their stainless gloss or mechanical working. The 4 inch is somewhat easier to hold and handle, but the 6 inch is a hell of a pistol to shoot. Very accurate and beautiful to look at. The 4 inch has seen a little more use, but is a fine gun also. Don't know what to say to you other than that.
I have a 6” 686 and it’s a very nice revolver to shoot. Accurate, reliable and just looks nice with the unfluted cylinder and satin finish. During comps I would struggle with the cylinder latch on the Python.
I got a S&W polished stainless steal 6" 686 with a 4 power scope. I had the same gun and scope 35yrs. ago and lost it to a pawn shop. About 20 years ago a guy I worked with had the same gun. He was needing money so I bought the ss 686 for $250.00 that I have now. I also have a M&P 40 w/a laser and I have put hundreds of rounds threw it and never had it to jam or misfire. S&W makes very good guns and I will be buying the new M&P 9mm CSX or the spec series kit.
I couldn't agree more! Shot 300-500 rounds a month back in the 80's as a reserve police officer and range enthusiast. The 686 was the gold standard. Thanks to the muscle memory / experience I'm probably a wheel gun guy till the day I die! Thanks for all the fun and informative range videos! I agree the Python is the prettier gun but at the cost of a less than instinctive cylinder release latch.
I bought a Ruger "Security Six" in 1973 brand-new for $89.00. To open the cylinder you neither push a slide forward nor pull a button backward. You press a button into the frame. It werks fyne!
@@JohnSmith-hm7eh In 1874 you could by a brand-new Colt Single Action Army Revolver for a twenty-dollar gold piece. You still can, based on the daily spot price of gold.
The issue with buttons is a lack of leverage. If it gets stuck, there’s nothing you can pry it against. Check out Kalashnikov Group’s ice test - prime example
Same here. I admit even having grew up out in the country shooting rifles that whole time, I couldn't hit a damn thing with a handgun. My firearms instructor in the academy set me straight with a 4" S&W model 686. Went from tied with worst of 68 people to a tie with the best before completion, so I was proud of that. Finally bought my own 686P but with the 6" barrel a year ago and it's my go to for a shoulder harness ltc. Amazing firearm.
My first handgun purchase when I was in college came down to my budget. I preferred the beautifully smooth double action of the Python, but it was $400 in blue compared to the 686 in SST around $200. I always regretted that I didn't buy a Python when I had more money, but I still have that 686 for some 37 years and it has been a great and accurate gun that gave me the confidence to hit anything at which I aimed. Now looking at new Python and it's more affordable relative to my pay but still hard to justify at today's prices when there are so many great guns out there.
If cost was not an issue, I would have gone with a nickel plated Python back in the 80's. However, cost was a big issue back then for me and I went with a 6" 686 with Pachmyr combat style grips. Best wheel gun I've ever owned. Thanks for the video. Nice to see that after all these years, the 686 is still a quality gun.
I've had my S&W 5" Model 27 for 45 years and I still love it. It looks as good as the day I bought it, but I am more gentle with her these days shooting standard 38 special instead of hot 357 reloads like in the early years. In 1984 I got to shoot my uncle's 4" Python. It was a beautiful stainless steel version but I couldn't quite enjoy it as I did my gun. Like Hickok says, shoot what feels right for you. Thank you for the videos. I have passed on this channel on to my oldest son, my daughter-in-law, my grandson, and my granddaughter. They have learned a great deal from you and enjoy the wit.
I would like to opine that I feel that the original S&W 357 Magnum, which is the 27, is possibly the best handgun ever made. It's versatile, long-lasting, accurate, and affordable. If you can't solve your problem with 6 rounds of 158gr from a 5-6" barrel on one of these, you are in the deep stuff.
@@terminalreset18 I agree 100%. As a former OSS officer I knew who carried a Browning Hi Power behind German lines in WWII told me, if you can't solve the problem with the rounds you have, to hell with reloading. Close to knife range. You never run out our cold steel.
I owned a 4” 581(a 686 in blue, with fixed sights) and shot it up against my friends Python. In the end, the only differences were,1/4” longer barrel and the cylinders rotate in different directions. Other than that,both revolvers performed magnificently. Thanks for👍🏼 sharing the video post and best of luck 🍀to you and your family 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻❤️🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
I had a 686 and my buddy had a Model 19. When we would go to the indoor range there was an immediate change in the acoustics of the range. Both shot well and were accurate. I had a bit more muzzle flare due to the 4" barrel compared to his 6" however both were a joy to shoot and view.
Back in the 80s Walmart sold handguns. When they decided to quit selling them, they marked down a Python to $450. I thought I needed $450 more than the Python so I passed. If I knew then what I know now!
I found that I liked the 686 over the python. Most of the time I have looked for the two guns the 686 is MUCH less expensive. The Python runs around 2k. As a retired gunsmith the python is harder to tune than the 686. At least to me.
Love my 686+ with 4'' barrel. My first revolver was a older used service model 65 357 the one with the pined barrel that I traded straight across for a brand new Taurus 357 stainless 4" big mistake the Taurus was the most inaccurate revolver I had ever shot. I sold the Taurus and replaced it with a Ruger 357 4" GP100 that was slightly better shooting revolver than the S&W model 65 keep in mind the 65 was a very well used previous duty gun. I sold the GP100 for financial reasons around 2010. 5 years ago I purchased the S&W 686+ 4"" barrel 7 shot again the best shooting revolver I have ever shot. Next time I get in a financial bind hopefully never that will be the last thing of value I will consider selling. Never had Python kind of money I'm a blue collar working man with grandkids but that Python sure is pretty. Great review Thank you.
Years ago two at our club competed with Pythons. Most shooters purchased used S&Ws because they were available, affordable and easy to service. Pythons seldom appeared on the used market and new ones cost triple compared to a used Smith. The Python was smooth and accurate. Everyone admired the Pythons; and S&W shooters often said they just didn’t want to compete with anything so beautiful.
I just recently bought a prelock 686 plus in a 4 inch, with rubber hogue grips. Absolutely love it. My favorite pistol. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Its 330 am in Oklahoma. Always love me some Hickok 45 when I can't sleep at night.
S&W 686 all the way for me! My first two guns (back in the early 80’s) were a model 19 and 686. For some reason I sold them. Forward to 2020 I found a 686, 7 shot PLUS, just an awesome gun! This one is not going anywhere.
I bought the GP100 7 Shot 357/38 and like it a lot. I have also purchased the S&W 686 6 shot 387/38 and waiting on the 10-day waiting period before I can pick it up. Both with the 4-inch barrel.
I like the Python too but can't justify the price. I have two 686 magnum + (7 shot) one 6 inch and one 2.5 inch barrels. Had the 6 inch for over 25 years, got the short barrel 2 years ago. Love them both. Thanks for the video.
I enjoy the 686. I have never fired the Colt. Before she passed away my wife claimed the 686 was her gun. She loved it, but she never shot it with any thing but 38's. I used to tease her and tell her I was going to sneak a 357 in the gun when she was not looking, but I never did it.
@@larrymcclure3842 Very sorry for your loss. Your Lady had great taste in a handgun. My 1st wife passed 20 years ago, she was never much for pistols but was a great shot with her Model 94.
Reeves Jungkind was my firearms instructor in Texas Highway patrol school. He was a Colt master pistol smith. He did a trigger job on a python for a friend of mine. There was no comparison. Outstanding. We had a few guys lucky enough to carry a K frame Smith for a short amount of time when we still carried wheel guns. Most of us had model 28’s smiths and they were fine, but Reeves was much like you and could make any pistol outstanding.
The bullet hitting the target is what makes the sound. Of course the sound comes after the bullet hits. If the camera were next to the target, you'd see the bullet hit before you heard the actual gunshot (not the gong). That phenomenon is not in this video.
The first gun, pistol or long gun, I ever purchased, way back in 1982, was a 4" Smith & Wesson Model 686. I have 35+ pistols and revolvers in my gun safe today, but the one I love the most is that 686. I don't shoot it as much as I used to. I spend more time these days with my EDC pistol (Glock 48X) and full size home defense pistol (Beretta 92FS w/G mod) but my beautiful 686 has the prime spot in my little arsenal.
Two fantastic hand guns . You couldn't go wrong with either. I liked the trigger on my colt a little better, than the 686 . But that's just my opinion. But loved both guns .
I was firearms instructor OKC PD for 23 years and Jack Garret was range master from the mid 50 till his retirement. There was never a colt revolver that complited the 5 days of shooting the PPC requireing 500 rds a day with out having a malfunction of some sort which required repairs. Mod 15 Mod 10 Mod 65 Mod 66 were the most prevelant until we transistioned to semi autos.
My Dad had a Python in the 80's. The crane bent somehow (at least according to Colt) and every so often, the gun wouldn't cycle through all 6 rounds shooting DA. He sent it back to Colt. It was repaired and returned. It was fine for a while and it then did it again. He cleaned it up and traded it on a 686. I still have the 686.
686 is a beautiful gun. My father was issued one from the Border Patrol back in '88. Still have his Bill Jordan holster, the bullet loops, the river belt. I bought a 586 back in December and every time I shoot it, I think of my father who passed away 2004. The training he got, all the changes that happened in Law Enforcement since then. Wish I could have had his Beretta 96D he carried when he passed, but I had to make my own.
My first revolver was a colt python(I traded a S&W SD9 to get it) and I sold it for 500 bucks before I knew the true value of it. I have wanted to get one ever since I knew the true value of it. Now I have the new version and am so happy to have one back in my collection. This is my best pistol in my collection, even though I am a glock fanboy lol.
I bought a 686 a cpl years ago. No regrets.... I would like to have a Python, just because it's a Python, but it's twice the price. Beautiful pistol, but I doubt I'll ever spring for it.
@Joseph Babica They are sure beautiful pistols !! I've owned a few Colts thru the years 1911s and New Frontier .22s, all were A+, First Class weapons ! Enjoy your new Python 👍👍
I got my first Python in 1974. $279. My Momma had to sign for it as I was only 20 years old. I shot it in competition throughout the 70s and 80s. After 10K rds I had to send it back to factory for re tuning. Since, I’ve shot another 5K or so rds. Needless to say I’m a colt guy. Yes, I confess, I also own a S&W 686.
Bought two revolvers today. A S&W 29-2, 6", nickel plated, in the presentation box. And then picked up a Colt Detective Special and couldn't put it down, got that too since the 4473 was already approved. There was a very nice Python there but at $3,000 I passed. Ammo is short, there is a 24 hour wait on getting state background checks done, things are getting interesting, and not in a good way.
You got 2 guns in one day and took them home?! That sounds so crazy and free, here in CA it takes about a month and 3 trips to the gun store +huge markups to get one gun...back when you could, everything is gone now.
@@QuietMikeW I bought the Smith yesterday, state background checks used to take around a half hour, now more like 24 hours. But I could've taken four guns home today, they would've just been added to the 4473. New Hampshire is a free state, a Constitutional carry state, any lawful citizen may carry a concealed firearm without the need for a permit. Throw in no sales or income tax for good measure. Does that make you feel better? On the other hand winters are cold and long.
My favorite revolver right now is the S&W 646 4" with the S&W rubber boot grip. I've never had another revolver that had such a natural point of aim. Right on the target. And sweet to shoot.
I had a 4" & a 6" python at the same time, because of how beautiful they are, but they did not stand up to factory 38+P or 357 magnum heavy usage. 7000+ rounds a year, is what I was shooting, (the ammo was free to me, if it was shoot at our departments range). Both Colt failed at 500-700 rounds, numerous time. The spring under the cylinder, holds a pin that holds the cylinder locked while firing. The coils would break. Colt always fixed them, and sent me spare springs. The excuse was, .... this is a range gun, meant to enjoy at the range with, 158 grain wadcutters, (.38 special). They where sold. My Smith & Wesson model 66, (not as strong as the 686), would go between 12-14,000 rounds before Smith & Wesson factory would rebuild them. I had two model 66 rebuilt twice ..... I do love the look of the Python, so I had gunsmith in the NorthWest build me a "Smolt", a s&w frame with a Colt 6" barrel. It worked great ! If you are wanting a combat revolver, buy the Smith & Wesson 686, 4", it is a heavy duty gun. You do your part, it will do it's job the first time.
Similar experience with the 2 Pythons I owned. Both started having issues after 500-600 rounds. 125 gr SJHP primarily with some standard velocity 158 gr .38 Special thrown in. None of my other revolvers, S&W, Ruger, Taurus, or even a Colt Trooper suffered such issues with the same/similar loads.
I wanted a new Python but all the problems is making me glad I picked up the Taurus first 24 kit with the 357 magnum with AimPro's custom work. Sad to say I'd take my Taurus over a Colt.
I have had a vintage 586 for 25 plus years; I don’t get to shoot much but it is awesome. One of my patients gifted me, probably 20 years ago with a walnut boxed set that included a python and a diamond back. Both are unfired because of the collectible aspect. They were given to depositors at an Illinois bank. I promised my patient that I would never sell them. So I’ve realized the stupidity of keeping them pristine. So the python and 586 will be going to the range soon. Thanks for the video. Ken
I collect S&W's, pre lock guns only. The price continues to climb because many agree the post lock guns aren't quite the same. I would like a Python but I can't justify the much higher price. Not sure about the durability either. Thanks for the video.
@@paulvogt9308 While I like some of the newer S&W designs I don't like having a external lock and I prefer not to have MIM parts in a gun if possible. So I shop for older pre lock guns. It's a personal preference, and I enjoy shopping online for firearms of many types. It's a interesting pastime. You can get a much better technical breakdown from a good S&W Book.
Cleon//// From the Reviews Iv,e been reading,The Old Pythons Weren't very RELIABLE EITHER.The say they couldn't hold up under constant 357/38+P being fired thru them.
Waaaaaay back in the day, I was choosing between a Model 29 & a Python.........I liked the python's looks better, but at that time they had " timing issues" with the gun .......so I bought a 29, 4 inch in nickel ..........drove the gun to S&W HDQ in New England & had them install an 8in barrel. I'd buy a new one if I wanted one.
You guys are weird. I think the lock is awesome feature. I can lock it anytime anywhere, esp around kids. I love having that extra security. That is why I chose a Smith over a Ruger because it has a lock.
@Pub Thumpin It's just more convenient. When I refer to kids I wasn't referring to my own kids. Sometimes I go over to neighbors house for dinner and they have kids so it's easier for me to lock my gun and hang it with my coat. Not a fan of removing the bullets then putting them back in again. Easier to just lock and unlock; it's very subtle so it won't alarm anyone and I can do it within my coat. Also my pant pockets tend to have holes, and bullets can drop out. That's why I don't care extra bullets. The ones in the gun is all I need.
I prefer the smiths as well. Not sure how many rounds have gone through my first 686 but, it's been many thousands downrange and it's never given me any trouble
I enjoy your video's. They are very informative and accurate. I have been contimplating the same decision between these two guns for about 4 months now. I made the decision today, as I purchased the S&W in 6". I got a great deal on a slightly used 686-6 Plus Deluxe (saved me $150 over new). The cost difference (NEW) between the Colt & S&W in 6" is $1450 vs. $925 respectively. I went with the Plus Deluxe (7-shot) which would run about $50 more. By the way, another difference between the two is that the Colt chambers clock-wise, and the S&W chambers counter-clockwise. If you don't load a full chamber, keep that in mind.
My Dad handed me down his 1982 686 Smith. He knew I loved that thing more than any other gun and so he left me that one. Now I love it and will never get rid of it especially since the modern modifications to that 686 which I don't want or like. But little brother got the Beretta SIlver Pigeon over and under that he used Pheasant hunting here in PA, and kinda jealous.
My first service revolver was a 586 that's why I still love revolvers today while stationed in germany back in1974 I bought a set of colts a python and a diamondback in a nice presentation box still in a special place in the safe.
I have been told that the Colt action had a slower trigger return. Supposedly that is why the Smith & Wesson was preferred for the rapid fire competitions. Carried a lot of Smith & Wesson’s during my LEO career.
Love your spots: Own a 62’ -- New 6” Blue Python- 6000.00 Colt. Detective -- very nice -- Smith model 59. New. Never fired Love owning them all!!!!! Python is the Baby!!!!!!
I’d have to say, 686 old school attracts me the most, don’t like the key or the rib venting ( belongs on a shotgun in my book) and I like the 4+”” barrel, but I’d take either one for Christmas.
I did two sell my stainless six inch 686 in the nineties to a township fireman that kept bugging me MISTAKE but still have a model 19 six inch stainless
@Will Starnes Yep, I feel your pain, Will. I made that same mistake some years ago myself... still hurts. Just bought the 6" 2020 Python this week. It's gorgeous, but still miss the 686.
I sold a 4” 686 and I surely regret it, but the worst deal I ever made was trading a 686 no dash 2.5” even up for a 5906 that I wanted at the time. Gun even had Combat grips. I’d never carry it and it wasn’t much of a range gun but I should have insisted on cash on top of the gun.
Every time I see a video with a S&W 686 I am reminded of how incredible my 1st gun is! I am also reminded every time I see Hikock shoot it, that im the reason I cant hit the target.
I’m a home boy from W Hartford Ct home of Colt. A long time ago Colts and their employees experienced a lengthy strike and my family started buying S&W’s. We still do. Nuff said. BTW we left W Htfd decades ago for the Piedmont of N C. We too shoot in the back yard 🤠
I'm stuck in New Britain for a few more years then moving to a gun friendly state myself. Glad you and your family made it out. Things only getting worse here in Ct.
Why should Americans follow the socialist unions into oblivion? I'm no fan of Colt but the unions tell us to vote against our right to keep and bear arms. Get a life.
I have a retired Oakland PD 4” 686 no dash. Gunsmithed to perfection. Incredible shooter. Then there’s the ‘78 Python 6” blue. Sent it off to Custom Shop Inc. for restoration and now it’s so perfect, I can’t even bring myself to open the cylinder. 🤦♂️
"Fusion" round. Not gonna lie, I was half expecting a tiny mushroom cloud when that monstrous bastard hit. It's like an Atomic Annie you can hand hold.
I own a 6" 686 that I bought in the 80s. It's the best revolver I've ever owned. Everyone I have let shoot it has had the same opinion and a few have wanted to buy it. One guy asks me every time he sees if I'm ready to sell it yet and to name my price. No sale. I don't have anything against the Python other than it isn't worth the money. I've heard about the timing issue for years, but I have never met anyone who has had that problem.
purchased a colt diamond back in the 1970's at the Marine Corps PX at MCRD Parris Island. Later in life she has 2 sisters named Miss Python and Miss Anaconda.
Bought both of my 686s (3" & 6") for less than 1 of the new Pythons. After I did a spring job on the 3" I've never looked back. The Python is a beautiful hand gun but the 686 is a work horse, not a safe queen.
Great comparison! Love the look of that Python rib, but that cylinder release always put me off. (I'll even take a Ruger Security Six cylinder release over the Colt's). So I'd get an action job on my 686 and found that the full length underlug kept me pretty happy, especially if you get a 686 with an unfluted cylinder like they made in 1986.
I carried a S&W 586 4” when I was an LEO. I own a Python. Personally, I prefer the Python because of its smooth action, trigger pull and its appearance. Good video on the comparison!👍
I've had more people come and inquire about buying my 686 than any other guns I own. It has been my first gun and I do not ever plan on selling it. It's a beautiful and reliable revolver.
Great comparison. This was so much fun to watch. By the way those factory combat grips on your 686 are highly coveted. I would say they are one of the most comfortable grip design and sometimes go for more than the revolver itself.
I’m not a big fan of wheel guns but my dad had an old Colt Trooper in 357... I could shoot that gun really well, even in double action. Still one of the best revolvers I’ve ever shot.
I have owned 2 Pythons and a Trooper, as well as a few 586/686 S&Ws. Pythons gave me problems after 500-600 rounds. The Trooper never gave me any problems with 1000+ rounds. Regret ever trading it off.
Both are lovely, but my money's going for the S&W 586 4" blued the classic:) Of course by the time I'll afford they probably will be a collector's item. They may already be that:)
I have wanted a Smith and Wesson 686 since a co-worker showed me his over thirty years ago. For what ever reason during that time i was never able to get this "dream gun". I had resigned myself to the fact that of all the guns i have collected over those thirty plus years I just was never going to ever own this gun of my dreams. On Christmas morning the one and only present under my tree with my name was a beautiful 686 from Santa. i cried like a baby. Today I placed my first order for .357 ammo and i am looking forward to shooting it with my son for the first time after my next chemo treatment. Thanks for a great video Hickok45.
Happy for you pal,this is also my dream gun ,may god bless you 💪🏼🇺🇲
bro believes in santa as an adult
Did you and your son get out to shoot your beautiful New revolver? I surely hope you have. Congratulations on your new gun .
God bless you friend I will pray for you. The revolver is nice, but spending time with family is even more precious. I hope you are doing well!
How are you doing? Hope you have good news to share.
4:10 “The less experience you have; the less difference you notice.” Simply Profound
It's pretty much common sense, not exactly profound. You're easily impressed. I can do this neat trick with my finger, I think you'd like it.
Yeah, and like he says, it can be applied to pretty much anything. It’s like when you’re starting out playing guitar and you want that $1000 Fender, but until you learn your way around a guitar then you won’t really know what makes it cost so much compared to a cheap Squire which in a lot of ways is just as good.
@@Logan912 except the colt costs more than the SW lol
You gotta start somewhere!
Well he is ex English teacher lol
Tough decision between the two. I ended up buying both (Wife doesn’t know yet). No regrets. I always look forward to taking them to the range. They are extremely accurate and fun to shoot. They are shooting machines. Python 2020 is 4.25” and 686 Plus is 4”. I hate my Dad died before he had a chance to see and hold them in his hands. He taught me all about revolvers. Update-just got the Colt Python 3 inch. It’s awesome.
She will get over it and learn to love them.
I'm going to get one I just have to smuggle it into the house
I have a 686 plus 4" a 586 4" and a 629 6.5" but I really need a 4.25" colt python
I'm telling your wife Earnest...just kidding LOL 🤫
@@LordJesusChrist1968 LOL,She caught me cleaning them. She is ok now.
@@boricuaarecibo9259 that’s a solid collection!
I had 3 Pythons that I sold. A 2.5" a 4.25" and a 6" bought new, beautiful looking weapons. The little hand that turns the cylinder failed me when I need it the most. Went and bought a Smith & Wesson 686+ 4" barrel. Then bought a 586 with a 3" barrel from Performance Center. Then found a Smith & Wesson 66F with a 3.5" barrel had to have it.
All the Smith & Wesson have performed flawlessly. I do miss my blue 4" Python. I sold it to a friend of mine. He lets me look at it from time to time. Then my wife left me. Now I am happy.
Great story!
The real snake is gone?
I carried a Blue steel 6” Colt Python in the late 80’s early 90’s. You couldn’t beat the heft of that pistol and the smoothness of the trigger pull. The cylinder release broke while qualifying at a range day. Turned out a 5 cent spring broke which prevented the cylinder from releasing and rotating out for a reload. Glad it happened when it did. Ultimately I retired the Python and went back to my Departmental issued S&W 4” .38 revolver for on-duty carry. I loved carrying that Python though. 😎
Well said David😂
I got a 6” Python for my wife. Great trade, huh???
My dad loved the python so much he amassed a great collection, 27 of them in every barrel length and finish, my mother always bitched him for spending so much money to get them, now that great collection is worth a small fortune, I wish I was back in Texas to shoot the ones he used, several of them are brand new in their box, never used.
My dad was a Python fan too. Me, I stuck with S&W. I wish I was back in Oklahoma.
I told my boss back in the early 90's that I wanted to buy my first gun... He was a gun nut so he took me to his favorite gun store and showed me a 686-3... 6" And next to it was a Python same length but much more expensive... He said they had issues and I should buy the Smith... 20 years later I'm glad I followed his advice... What a tack driver...
JS Krawz I had a similar choice also. Buying my first revolver, between a used Colt Python which costs more than a brand new 686, I chose the 686. Was never a fan of the Colts because of the cylinder release, chintzy reason I know lol. Seriously, both are great guns.
@Al Primo Nope... It's to big and bulky to conceal somehow on my fat ass body... Now technically Michigan is an open carry state but you're just asking for trouble...
Only had my 686 for For 1 year
Had to Branish it in phila last week.
Guy road rages me, boxes me in
3 blocks from Art Museum, gets out of his car, and swings a
Bully club at me sitting in car!
Got windows up as he was approaching , he threatening me
And I draw revolver in Broad daylight! Almost shot the Guy,
Only because I was armed!
He ran back to his car and took off
Thanks Smith + Wesson!
@DemonSlayer ByKnight take it a step further, I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I have the right to defend myself.
@DemonSlayer ByKnight it happens so quick, I didn't know
He was getting out of car"
He had tint windows,, and hid
Billy club than snapped it out!
I was scrambling to get window
Up! As soon as I did, than I pulled our Revolver! Game changer!
Guy acting like Rioter!
Many he saw my NRA decal,
And he simply got mad I passed him from inside lane???.
Hickock pointing at Colt Python: “This is brilliant...”
Hickock now points at SW 686: “but I like this”
hes dead on with 686
@@00buck2 you’ve never shot any of them have you?
@@00buck2 well,,, I can count to like a bazillion....
I have owned a 3" 686 since the mid "90s and I love it. I admire the beauty of the Python and would be proud to own one of them as well. These are two awesome firearms that anyone would be fortunate to have in their arsenal. Note: The 686 is heavy for concealed carry so I carry a Ruger EC9S far more often here in hot and humid Florida.
He always amazes me with his accuracy.
Best shooter since Henry McCarthy!
😆@grizz2532
I'm in awe.
The way he sets his upper body / arms is something to see.
I had the same dilemma with my favorite caliber wheel guns. The solution: my wife bought a Colt Python. I have a Smith 586. My son has A Ruger GP100. All great revolvers. Quality and shootability about the same. We purchased the Python back in the 1980's when they were reasonable. I definitely wouldn't pay twice as much for the Colt.
The Python is the beautiful girl that commands your attention, while the 686 is your faithful wife. Love both revolvers, but have more faith in the 686.
Good one!
Well,then there is your French mistress,aka MR-73,and your German Fräulein aka Korth! Though choice!
@PatienceZero you bet,he knows them,but probably nobody of bis friends owns one
Was about to make the same comparison! One looks and feels absolutely gorgeous, but you still marry the other.
@PatienceZero
A Korth probably starts at $3500 so is it really worth it"? Yes, if you live 75 years and shoot it every day.
The 686 was my first duty weapon as a U.S. Probation Officer, before we transitioned to the Glock .40. I still have mine, and consider it a piece of art.
I've had in my possession a 6 inch 686-3 since 1989 that I paid $319 for brand new. It has never misfired and likes whatever ammo I put thru it. The best group I ever got was one ragged hole with all 6 shots at an indoor range at 50 ft. Averages 1 1/2 to 2 inch groups all day. Still looks new even with all of the magnums put downrange. No major maintenance ever done except when one chamber got out of time sending a round 3 or 4 inches from the group. S&W sent me a new cylinder at no cost ( lots of kudos to a company willing to do that) and groups are back to normal. It's a gun that just works. I'll never sell it and it will be in the family for a long time. Heard the python was having timing issues. Don't know if that's been corrected, but I just can't justify the price of the new pythons if they're defective.
That’s awesome! 1989 is my year, too!
@@martincorona322 Thanks. Only accurate guns are interesting. Did you mean you have a 686 from 1989 or that you were born in that year? Just curious.
@@rickqueen2751 I was born that year.
@@martincorona322 Cool.
The S&W L-frame is the ultimate workhorse revolver, particularly the older pre-lock versions. Bull-strong, durable, well-balanced and smooth shooting. I definitely like the Python/Trooper as well, but for basically the reasons you cited I prefer the S&W.
Today I did a comparison and they both feel, operate, and shoot nicely. Price point is the Python is more than double the 686. I wanted a Python since the 80’s so I went that route.
Why didn't rugar go with a key lock just curious?
@@troydixson1394 Had to do, as I understand it, with S&W being bought by a British company which made them subject to some US law abut foreign made firearms having to have a safety to sell in the US. I hate the Hillary Hole but I'm glad that S&W is still around. Ruger has always been US owned.
I purchased a 586-4” back in 1998, have always loved the feel and incredible accuracy of this handgun. Just as demonstrated in this video, the Smith is always on target at 5, 10, 25, 50 yards and beyond with little effort. #love S&W586/686
I just want to know I have a 686 stainless what kind of people purchase the 586
Exactly,the old S&W Revolvers are the best in the World.🇺🇸👍🤔But the new ones are not at the same Qualitylevel,because profits stands before Quality these days in the USA..thats why most best Handguns now are European.🤔🇪🇺🇺🇸
@@paulwilliams8555 People who like blue guns, duh. A buddy of mine hates what he calls "shiny guns" and won't buy ANY stainless gun. I like both, but I kind of prefer blue myself in a revolver.
Hey Bud, you are right. These 686's are so good at almost any range that I call mine 'pocked rifles.' Happy shooting! --Old Guy
@@paulwilliams8555 I have a 586-8 classic and it's my favorite
This guy never runs out of ideas and always seem to to make us happy when we watch his vids.
BROTHER
He is a 🐐 Goat for sure. Very skilled and talented. Great entertaining videos
I want to borrow some of his guns
@@michaeljosephjackson2364 i want to borrow his target range!!
Diff pricee on the python
Hickok’s pot smoking joke never gets old
True That 😂🤣🤣
toke it up
Puff puff pass🚬
The first gun I bought was a 6 inch 686 and it is my absolute favorite out of all the guns I have shot. Thanks Hickok for all the great videos!
I also have 2 686's. 6 inch and 4 inch stainless steel. I brought the 6 inch to a [ocal gun store to see if I could sell it. The guy took my gun and said I will be right back. He went into the back and returned 15 mins later and handed me my gun. He said, run you an add in the paper or on the internet to sell your gun. I said why? He said his boss won't pay over $ 250 for the gun. I said ok, what is it worth? He said, $ 800 to $ 1000 dollars. I found an honest man that day. I thanked him and walked out. Have never put the gun for sale.
@@mikelee6936 how do you like the 6inch vs 4inch? I'm torn between both lengths.
@@GreekGuru74 I am the same way my friend. The reason I have one of each. The six inch is very heavy even in a scabbard.
@@mikelee6936 which one do you prefer to shoot? I'm a skinnier guy, I don't think I'd carry either of them on me, but they look like great shooters and something to take to the range.
@@GreekGuru74 GreekGuru. I can't say which one that I lean towards, either one is a great shooter and looks new. They are both several years old but have not lost their stainless gloss or mechanical working. The 4 inch is somewhat easier to hold and handle, but the 6 inch is a hell of a pistol to shoot. Very accurate and beautiful to look at. The 4 inch has seen a little more use, but is a fine gun also. Don't know what to say to you other than that.
I have a 6” 686 and it’s a very nice revolver to shoot. Accurate, reliable and just looks nice with the unfluted cylinder and satin finish. During comps I would struggle with the cylinder latch on the Python.
I got a S&W polished stainless steal 6" 686 with a 4 power scope. I had the same gun and scope 35yrs. ago and lost it to a pawn shop. About 20 years ago a guy I worked with had the same gun. He was needing money so I bought the ss 686 for $250.00 that I have now. I also have a M&P 40 w/a laser and I have put hundreds of rounds threw it and never had it to jam or misfire. S&W makes very good guns and I will be buying the new M&P 9mm CSX or the spec series kit.
I couldn't agree more! Shot 300-500 rounds a month back in the 80's as a reserve police officer and range enthusiast. The 686 was the gold standard. Thanks to the muscle memory / experience I'm probably a wheel gun guy till the day I die! Thanks for all the fun and informative range videos! I agree the Python is the prettier gun but at the cost of a less than instinctive cylinder release latch.
I bought a Ruger "Security Six" in 1973 brand-new for $89.00. To open the cylinder you neither push a slide forward nor pull a button backward. You press a button into the frame. It werks fyne!
I got a stainless security six 4 inch last yr in a trade. I like it and wonder how it compares to python and 686.
@@JohnSmith-hm7eh In 1874 you could by a brand-new Colt Single Action Army Revolver for a twenty-dollar gold piece. You still can, based on the daily spot price of gold.
That's a revolver that I really like outside of my Smiths. I prefer it to the GP100.
The issue with buttons is a lack of leverage. If it gets stuck, there’s nothing you can pry it against.
Check out Kalashnikov Group’s ice test - prime example
Jimbo Kyzar with Hogue grips on it, you have the superior revolver.
I have a older 686 in 4 inch, love it more than all my other hand guns!
I have a 686 6” and it’s a tack driver. Especially with 38 specials. It’s like shooting a 22.
686 any day. Carried 4' on duty for years. When we transitioned to semi autos (mostly for round capacity), it was a letdown.
Same here. I admit even having grew up out in the country shooting rifles that whole time, I couldn't hit a damn thing with a handgun. My firearms instructor in the academy set me straight with a 4" S&W model 686. Went from tied with worst of 68 people to a tie with the best before completion, so I was proud of that. Finally bought my own 686P but with the 6" barrel a year ago and it's my go to for a shoulder harness ltc. Amazing firearm.
Police were never better armed than when they carried .357 wheel guns. Period.
My first handgun purchase when I was in college came down to my budget. I preferred the beautifully smooth double action of the Python, but it was $400 in blue compared to the 686 in SST around $200. I always regretted that I didn't buy a Python when I had more money, but I still have that 686 for some 37 years and it has been a great and accurate gun that gave me the confidence to hit anything at which I aimed. Now looking at new Python and it's more affordable relative to my pay but still hard to justify at today's prices when there are so many great guns out there.
Neither one will get cheaper in our lifetimes. Hell, they may beat the S&P 500.
If cost was not an issue, I would have gone with a nickel plated Python back in the 80's. However, cost was a big issue back then for me and I went with a 6" 686 with Pachmyr combat style grips. Best wheel gun I've ever owned. Thanks for the video. Nice to see that after all these years, the 686 is still a quality gun.
Love the 686 it was my duty gun back in the 80’s still have it to day great gun to shoot love your videos 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Model 686 is a LOT of weight to carry... For me the Model 19 is a lot lighter to carry
Whatever it is,welcome to the 21'st century
@@MaineOutdoorsChannelgrow up
I've had my S&W 5" Model 27 for 45 years and I still love it. It looks as good as the day I bought it, but I am more gentle with her these days shooting standard 38 special instead of hot 357 reloads like in the early years. In 1984 I got to shoot my uncle's 4" Python. It was a beautiful stainless steel version but I couldn't quite enjoy it as I did my gun. Like Hickok says, shoot what feels right for you. Thank you for the videos. I have passed on this channel on to my oldest son, my daughter-in-law, my grandson, and my granddaughter. They have learned a great deal from you and enjoy the wit.
I would like to opine that I feel that the original S&W 357 Magnum, which is the 27, is possibly the best handgun ever made. It's versatile, long-lasting, accurate, and affordable. If you can't solve your problem with 6 rounds of 158gr from a 5-6" barrel on one of these, you are in the deep stuff.
Back in the 70s I had 6 1\2 in Model 27. Fantastic shooter. I've always wanted a 5 inch, but never found one.
@@terminalreset18 I agree 100%. As a former OSS officer I knew who carried a Browning Hi Power behind German lines in WWII told me, if you can't solve the problem with the rounds you have, to hell with reloading. Close to knife range. You never run out our cold steel.
I owned a 4” 581(a 686 in blue, with fixed sights) and shot it up against my friends Python. In the end, the only differences were,1/4” longer barrel and the cylinders rotate in different directions. Other than that,both revolvers performed magnificently. Thanks for👍🏼 sharing the video post and best of luck 🍀to you and your family 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻❤️🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
586 is the blued version
I had a 686 and my buddy had a Model 19. When we would go to the indoor range there was an immediate change in the acoustics of the range. Both shot well and were accurate. I had a bit more muzzle flare due to the 4" barrel compared to his 6" however both were a joy to shoot and view.
形はM19，M66の方が圧倒的に美しいが、耐久性はＬフレームのM686が必要。
バレルの形だけＫフレームの物みたいに出来ないんですかね？
Back in the 80s Walmart sold handguns. When they decided to quit selling them, they marked down a Python to $450. I thought I needed $450 more than the Python so I passed. If I knew then what I know now!
There was one at a local shop yesterday, $3,000.
@@3ducs I have never paid over MSRP for a car and i am not starting with a Colt..
S&W 686 is 1/3 the price of a Colt..
450 dollars in the 80s is close to 1,500 in today's market... Plus 40 years of storage, didn't seem like you missed much.
If you put the money in the stock market, you would have been much better off.
What is the price today
I love my 686. I bought it new 40 years ago for $300. After having shot my brother 's Python, I just never could justify the difference in price.
I found that I liked the 686 over the python. Most of the time I have looked for the two guns the 686 is MUCH less expensive. The Python runs around 2k. As a retired gunsmith the python is harder to tune than the 686. At least to me.
Love my 686+ with 4'' barrel. My first revolver was a older used service model 65 357 the one with the pined barrel that I traded straight across for a brand new Taurus 357 stainless 4" big mistake the Taurus was the most inaccurate revolver I had ever shot. I sold the Taurus and replaced it with a Ruger 357 4" GP100 that was slightly better shooting revolver than the S&W model 65 keep in mind the 65 was a very well used previous duty gun. I sold the GP100 for financial reasons around 2010. 5 years ago I purchased the S&W 686+ 4"" barrel 7 shot again the best shooting revolver I have ever shot. Next time I get in a financial bind hopefully never that will be the last thing of value I will consider selling. Never had Python kind of money I'm a blue collar working man with grandkids but that Python sure is pretty. Great review Thank you.
Years ago two at our club competed with Pythons. Most shooters purchased used S&Ws because they were available, affordable and easy to service. Pythons seldom appeared on the used market and new ones cost triple compared to a used Smith. The Python was smooth and accurate. Everyone admired the Pythons; and S&W shooters often said they just didn’t want to compete with anything so beautiful.
I just recently bought a prelock 686 plus in a 4 inch, with rubber hogue grips. Absolutely love it. My favorite pistol. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Its 330 am in Oklahoma. Always love me some Hickok 45 when I can't sleep at night.
I have been blessed to own 3 S&W 686 in my life, and ever single one of them was an excellent firearm.
S&W 686 all the way for me! My first two guns (back in the early 80’s) were a model 19 and 686. For some reason I sold them. Forward to 2020 I found a 686, 7 shot PLUS, just an awesome gun! This one is not going anywhere.
I got a 686 7-shot plus too. I can’t miss with it. Would never part with it.
I’ve got a 63 nickel m19, however my python even as a 2020 is my favorite.
I bought the GP100 7 Shot 357/38 and like it a lot. I have also purchased the S&W 686 6 shot 387/38 and waiting on the 10-day waiting period before I can pick it up. Both with the 4-inch barrel.
Another very happy GP 100 owner here. 6 shot, 4” barrel, stainless.
I like the Python too but can't justify the price. I have two 686 magnum + (7 shot) one 6 inch and one 2.5 inch barrels. Had the 6 inch for over 25 years, got the short barrel 2 years ago. Love them both. Thanks for the video.
I enjoy the 686. I have never fired the Colt. Before she passed away my wife claimed the 686 was her gun. She loved it, but she never shot it with any thing but 38's. I used to tease her and tell her I was going to sneak a 357 in the gun when she was not looking, but I never did it.
Your wife had great taste.
@@jeffalcorn5571 Yes, in spite of her choice in a husband. Even though she has been gone for 8 years now I still miss her very much.
@@larrymcclure3842 So sorry for your loss. Sir if I were you I'd get that 686 out and run a bunch of .38 in it to honor her.
@@larrymcclure3842 Very sorry for your loss. Your Lady had great taste in a handgun. My 1st wife passed 20 years ago, she was never much for pistols but was a great shot with her Model 94.
@@jeffalcorn5571 I Second that!
I just love your revolver videos, so much better than the automatics!
I have a Colt Python made in 1965 and I love it.
Own a 586 purchased new in 83, still laser accurate, own the Python too!! Both works of art!
Reeves Jungkind was my firearms instructor in Texas Highway patrol school. He was a Colt master pistol smith. He did a trigger job on a python for a friend of mine. There was no comparison. Outstanding. We had a few guys lucky enough to carry a K frame Smith for a short amount of time when we still carried wheel guns. Most of us had model 28’s smiths and they were fine, but Reeves was much like you and could make any pistol outstanding.
I've got a 1981 Python and a S&W 686 from the 90's. As beautiful as my Python is, I'm personally more accurate with the 686. I love both.
Does your 686 have a transfer bar? Or just a firing pin on the hammer?
@@crunch9876 Mine is a S&W 686-3 with a 4" barrel. It has the firing pin on the hammer.
@@tinman8518 ah ok mine also has a firing pin on hammer and I’m trying to find out what date it was made. I purchased it used
Same barrel length?
@@keithhartman9946 Actually my Python has a 6" barrel and my 686 has a 4" barrel.
I like how when John zooms in, you can see the bullet hit it’s target before the sound reaches
Watch careful;y with slower rounds and you’ll see the bullet in flight as it approaches and then hits the gong....never gets old see those!!! 👍👍
The bullet hitting the target is what makes the sound. Of course the sound comes after the bullet hits.
If the camera were next to the target, you'd see the bullet hit before you heard the actual gunshot (not the gong). That phenomenon is not in this video.
The first gun, pistol or long gun, I ever purchased, way back in 1982, was a 4" Smith & Wesson Model 686. I have 35+ pistols and revolvers in my gun safe today, but the one I love the most is that 686. I don't shoot it as much as I used to. I spend more time these days with my EDC pistol (Glock 48X) and full size home defense pistol (Beretta 92FS w/G mod) but my beautiful 686 has the prime spot in my little arsenal.
I have a 4" 586 I bought in the mid 80s I feel the same way about. It's the last firearm I'd ever part with.
Two fantastic hand guns . You couldn't go wrong with either. I liked the trigger on my colt a little better, than the 686 . But that's just my opinion. But loved both guns .
I was firearms instructor OKC PD for 23 years and Jack Garret was range master from the mid 50 till his retirement. There was never a colt revolver that complited the 5 days of shooting the PPC requireing 500 rds a day with out having a malfunction of some sort which required repairs. Mod 15 Mod 10 Mod 65 Mod 66 were the most prevelant until we transistioned to semi autos.
My Dad had a Python in the 80's. The crane bent somehow (at least according to Colt) and every so often, the gun wouldn't cycle through all 6 rounds shooting DA. He sent it back to Colt. It was repaired and returned. It was fine for a while and it then did it again. He cleaned it up and traded it on a 686. I still have the 686.
686 is a beautiful gun. My father was issued one from the Border Patrol back in '88. Still have his Bill Jordan holster, the bullet loops, the river belt. I bought a 586 back in December and every time I shoot it, I think of my father who passed away 2004. The training he got, all the changes that happened in Law Enforcement since then. Wish I could have had his Beretta 96D he carried when he passed, but I had to make my own.
I have a 6" stainless steel 686-6. I love it, nice smooth trigger.
I bought a 6" Python in '81 and it was in that gorgeous bluing that was almost black. One of the sexiest revolvers ever made.
That Royal Blue finish on the Python was AWESOME!!!
I have one just like it, still in the box and plastic wrap
@@Docsjeff royal blue? I don't think it's royal blue....
Beautiful piece you picked up
@@AudibleVisibIe I believe that's what colt called there process.
My first revolver was a colt python(I traded a S&W SD9 to get it) and I sold it for 500 bucks before I knew the true value of it. I have wanted to get one ever since I knew the true value of it. Now I have the new version and am so happy to have one back in my collection. This is my best pistol in my collection, even though I am a glock fanboy lol.
The Python in 4.25” barrel is just a mesmerizing work of art. ❤
Absolutely love mine
I bought a 686 a cpl years ago. No regrets.... I would like to have a Python, just because it's a Python, but it's twice the price. Beautiful pistol, but I doubt I'll ever spring for it.
@Joseph Babica 😉👍 I've always loved S&W.
@Joseph Babica They are sure beautiful pistols !! I've owned a few Colts thru the years 1911s and New Frontier .22s, all were A+, First Class weapons ! Enjoy your new Python 👍👍
I got my first Python in 1974. $279. My Momma had to sign for it as I was only 20 years old. I shot it in competition throughout the 70s and 80s. After 10K rds I had to send it back to factory for re tuning. Since, I’ve shot another 5K or so rds. Needless to say I’m a colt guy. Yes, I confess, I also own a S&W 686.
By “re-tuning” do you mean that the cylinder went out of timing?
Wow
Bought two revolvers today. A S&W 29-2, 6", nickel plated, in the presentation box. And then picked up a Colt Detective Special and couldn't put it down, got that too since the 4473 was already approved. There was a very nice Python there but at $3,000 I passed. Ammo is short, there is a 24 hour wait on getting state background checks done, things are getting interesting, and not in a good way.
You got 2 guns in one day and took them home?! That sounds so crazy and free, here in CA it takes about a month and 3 trips to the gun store +huge markups to get one gun...back when you could, everything is gone now.
@@QuietMikeW I bought the Smith yesterday, state background checks used to take around a half hour, now more like 24 hours. But I could've taken four guns home today, they would've just been added to the 4473. New Hampshire is a free state, a Constitutional carry state, any lawful citizen may carry a concealed firearm without the need for a permit. Throw in no sales or income tax for good measure. Does that make you feel better? On the other hand winters are cold and long.
Mike I live in Florida and if made it in and out in 20 minutes when I bought my 5.56, but that was last year.
Let me guess... Greentop?
I always wanted the older classic Colt Detective Special but ended up with a pinned barrel S & W Model 60.
My favorite revolver right now is the S&W 646 4" with the S&W rubber boot grip. I've never had another revolver that had such a natural point of aim. Right on the target. And sweet to shoot.
Great Choice
I also have both and love them. Your views and thoughts are just how I feel as well. Life is good.
Delightful man cave evening watching Hickok 45 on UA-cam, comparing a Colt Python vs S&W 686!
I had a 4" & a 6" python at the same time, because of how beautiful they are, but they did not stand up to factory 38+P or 357 magnum heavy usage. 7000+ rounds a year, is what I was shooting, (the ammo was free to me, if it was shoot at our departments range). Both Colt failed at 500-700 rounds, numerous time. The spring under the cylinder, holds a pin that holds the cylinder locked while firing. The coils would break. Colt always fixed them, and sent me spare springs. The excuse was, .... this is a range gun, meant to enjoy at the range with, 158 grain wadcutters, (.38 special). They where sold. My Smith & Wesson model 66, (not as strong as the 686), would go between 12-14,000 rounds before Smith & Wesson factory would rebuild them. I had two model 66 rebuilt twice ..... I do love the look of the Python, so I had gunsmith in the NorthWest build me a "Smolt", a s&w frame with a Colt 6" barrel. It worked great !
If you are wanting a combat revolver, buy the Smith & Wesson 686, 4", it is a heavy duty gun. You do your part, it will do it's job the first time.
Similar experience with the 2 Pythons I owned. Both started having issues after 500-600 rounds. 125 gr SJHP primarily with some standard velocity 158 gr .38 Special thrown in. None of my other revolvers, S&W, Ruger, Taurus, or even a Colt Trooper suffered such issues with the same/similar loads.
Steve Davis Yours was certainly one of the very best and through comments covering these two brands. Thanks!
2020 Python or the earlier model?
Looks like my S&W-586 will last a lifetime. Mostly used for IDPA competitions.
I wanted a new Python but all the problems is making me glad I picked up the Taurus first 24 kit with the 357 magnum with AimPro's custom work. Sad to say I'd take my Taurus over a Colt.
My favorite firearm is my 4" 686+. Love the balance, trigger, and looks.
I especially like the 686+ with 3" barrel. Great for concealed carry. Hard to find though
It has been elusive since it was approved for boot gun by many departments and military. They are sure not giving them away either once you find one!
Have you found one yet?
@@walden6272 GunBroker always seems to have a few. I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. (sorry...bad dad joke.)
@@MrLarrybyrne
How about now? You get one yet? 🙃
@@Night_Walks unfortunately no. Other life expenses getting in the way.
I have had a vintage 586 for 25 plus years; I don’t get to shoot much but it is awesome. One of my patients gifted me, probably 20 years ago with a walnut boxed set that included a python and a diamond back. Both are unfired because of the collectible aspect. They were given to depositors at an Illinois bank. I promised my patient that I would never sell them. So I’ve realized the stupidity of keeping them pristine. So the python and 586 will be going to the range soon. Thanks for the video.
Ken
I collect S&W's, pre lock guns only. The price continues to climb because many agree the post lock guns aren't quite the same. I would like a Python but I can't justify the much higher price. Not sure about the durability either. Thanks for the video.
@@paulvogt9308 While I like some of the newer S&W designs I don't like having a external lock and I prefer not to have MIM parts in a gun if possible. So I shop for older pre lock guns. It's a personal preference, and I enjoy shopping online for firearms of many types. It's a interesting pastime. You can get a much better technical breakdown from a good S&W Book.
Cleon//// From the Reviews Iv,e been reading,The Old Pythons Weren't very RELIABLE EITHER.The say they couldn't hold up under constant 357/38+P being fired thru them.
Waaaaaay back in the day, I was choosing between a Model 29 & a Python.........I liked the python's looks better, but at that time they had " timing issues" with the gun .......so I bought a 29, 4 inch in nickel ..........drove the gun to S&W HDQ in New England & had them install an 8in barrel. I'd buy a new one if I wanted one.
You guys are weird. I think the lock is awesome feature. I can lock it anytime anywhere, esp around kids. I love having that extra security. That is why I chose a Smith over a Ruger because it has a lock.
@Pub Thumpin It's just more convenient. When I refer to kids I wasn't referring to my own kids. Sometimes I go over to neighbors house for dinner and they have kids so it's easier for me to lock my gun and hang it with my coat. Not a fan of removing the bullets then putting them back in again. Easier to just lock and unlock; it's very subtle so it won't alarm anyone and I can do it within my coat. Also my pant pockets tend to have holes, and bullets can drop out. That's why I don't care extra bullets. The ones in the gun is all I need.
I prefer the smiths as well. Not sure how many rounds have gone through my first 686 but, it's been many thousands downrange and it's never given me any trouble
@@Krobear ppl always telling me revolves are useless, better to get a pistol, I think pistols are more reliable imo. Was in two minds.
@@moosa9850 pistols can’t shine revolvers shoes in reliability.
I used to own a 686 6" barrel. Had Pachmyr grips. Loved that weapon. It's a pleasure to draw, balance is natural and it was darn fun to shoot.....
You are correct about not being used in competition, however many many people used them for duty weapons in the 70s and 80s.
I enjoy your video's. They are very informative and accurate. I have been contimplating the same decision between these two guns for about 4 months now. I made the decision today, as I purchased the S&W in 6". I got a great deal on a slightly used 686-6 Plus Deluxe (saved me $150 over new). The cost difference (NEW) between the Colt & S&W in 6" is $1450 vs. $925 respectively. I went with the Plus Deluxe (7-shot) which would run about $50 more. By the way, another difference between the two is that the Colt chambers clock-wise, and the S&W chambers counter-clockwise. If you don't load a full chamber, keep that in mind.
"Dont bother me; I'm busy." I love this giant.
Two of the most beautiful guns ever!
I've watched this video three times and I keep coming back to the same question... did the hat come with the shirt?
Fargon icehole
@@mattsharkey8437 That's right you sneaky bastage.
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@@mse3700 you somanabitchese
That's some funny shit.
My Dad handed me down his 1982 686 Smith. He knew I loved that thing more than any other gun and so he left me that one. Now I love it and will never get rid of it especially since the modern modifications to that 686 which I don't want or like. But little brother got the Beretta SIlver Pigeon over and under that he used Pheasant hunting here in PA, and kinda jealous.
My first service revolver was a 586 that's why I still love revolvers today while stationed in germany back in1974 I bought a set of colts a python and a diamondback in a nice presentation box still in a special place in the safe.
“u don’t pay attention to what I say” 😂😂😂😂 hickok45
I have been told that the Colt action had a slower trigger return. Supposedly that is why the Smith & Wesson was preferred for the rapid fire competitions. Carried a lot of Smith & Wesson’s during my LEO career.
Love your spots:
Own a 62’ -- New 6” Blue Python- 6000.00
Colt. Detective -- very nice --
Smith model 59. New. Never fired
Love owning them all!!!!!
Python is the Baby!!!!!!
Colt has a slower return. Problem if you ride the trigger.
Yes. Colt is a lot slower.
I’d have to say, 686 old school attracts me the most, don’t like the key or the rib venting ( belongs on a shotgun in my book) and I like the 4+”” barrel, but I’d take either one for Christmas.
Wild Bill57 lol
Well we found the one person in the world who doesn't like the rib.
I totally agree with you, I don't like the rib venting either... 😷👍
Don’t like the rib either. The Python never impressed me. If I was given one I’d sell it immediately and buy a Smith and pocket the difference.
@Joseph Babica only kids and facebook grandmas type in all caps. which one are you?
The Python was always a beautiful "Grail Gun" in my mind, but S&W makes the best production revolvers. Always has, likely always will.
Well said.
My 4" 686 plus is still one of my top 3 favorite pistols in the collection for so many reasons. I just love the gun.
I have the same gun. It is an excellent gun.
Worst mistake I ever made was selling my 6" Smith 686
Me too!
I did two sell my stainless six inch 686 in the nineties to a township fireman that kept bugging me MISTAKE but still have a model 19 six inch stainless
@Will Starnes Yep, I feel your pain, Will. I made that same mistake some years ago myself... still hurts. Just bought the 6" 2020 Python this week. It's gorgeous, but still miss the 686.
Me three!
I sold a 4” 686 and I surely regret it, but the worst deal I ever made was trading a 686 no dash 2.5” even up for a 5906 that I wanted at the time. Gun even had Combat grips. I’d never carry it and it wasn’t much of a range gun but I should have insisted on cash on top of the gun.
Every time I see a video with a S&W 686 I am reminded of how incredible my 1st gun is! I am also reminded every time I see Hikock shoot it, that im the reason I cant hit the target.
I’m a home boy from W Hartford Ct home of Colt. A long time ago Colts and their employees experienced a lengthy strike and my family started buying S&W’s. We still do. Nuff said.
BTW we left W Htfd decades ago for the Piedmont of N C. We too shoot in the back yard 🤠
I'm stuck in New Britain for a few more years then moving to a gun friendly state myself. Glad you and your family made it out. Things only getting worse here in Ct.
bglk2310 try living in Canada!
Greetings to fellow Tarheel!
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Why should Americans follow the socialist unions into oblivion? I'm no fan of Colt but the unions tell us to vote against our right to keep and bear arms. Get a life.
I'm glad Colt brought the Python back. They make beautiful revolvers, no doubt. But I still prefer my 686.
I have a retired Oakland PD 4” 686 no dash. Gunsmithed to perfection. Incredible shooter. Then there’s the ‘78 Python 6” blue. Sent it off to Custom Shop Inc. for restoration and now it’s so perfect, I can’t even bring myself to open the cylinder. 🤦♂️
"Fusion" round. Not gonna lie, I was half expecting a tiny mushroom cloud when that monstrous bastard hit. It's like an Atomic Annie you can hand hold.
I own a 6" 686 that I bought in the 80s. It's the best revolver I've ever owned. Everyone I have let shoot it has had the same opinion and a few have wanted to buy it. One guy asks me every time he sees if I'm ready to sell it yet and to name my price. No sale. I don't have anything against the Python other than it isn't worth the money. I've heard about the timing issue for years, but I have never met anyone who has had that problem.
Python: Target gun
686/586: Distinguished Combat Magnum
When did they start selling guns at Target? LoL
purchased a colt diamond back in the 1970's at the Marine Corps PX at MCRD Parris Island. Later in life she has 2 sisters named Miss Python and Miss Anaconda.
I just picked up a 686-3 last Friday!! Beautiful gun!
Bought both of my 686s (3" & 6") for less than 1 of the new Pythons. After I did a spring job on the 3" I've never looked back. The Python is a beautiful hand gun but the 686 is a work horse, not a safe queen.
With revolvers, I stick with Smith's & Rugers.
My 686 and Vaquero agree.
Great comparison! Love the look of that Python rib, but that cylinder release always put me off. (I'll even take a Ruger Security Six cylinder release over the Colt's). So I'd get an action job on my 686 and found that the full length underlug kept me pretty happy, especially if you get a 686 with an unfluted cylinder like they made in 1986.
I carried a S&W 586 4” when I was an LEO. I own a Python. Personally, I prefer the Python because of its smooth action, trigger pull and its appearance. Good video on the comparison!👍
I've had more people come and inquire about buying my 686 than any other guns I own. It has been my first gun and I do not ever plan on selling it. It's a beautiful and reliable revolver.
Great comparison. This was so much fun to watch. By the way those factory combat grips on your 686 are highly coveted. I would say they are one of the most comfortable grip design and sometimes go for more than the revolver itself.
Really? Honestly I've been looking into wood grips, but the rubber grip fits my large palms nicely
I’m not a big fan of wheel guns but my dad had an old Colt Trooper in 357... I could shoot that gun really well, even in double action. Still one of the best revolvers I’ve ever shot.
I have owned 2 Pythons and a Trooper, as well as a few 586/686 S&Ws. Pythons gave me problems after 500-600 rounds. The Trooper never gave me any problems with 1000+ rounds. Regret ever trading it off.
Both are lovely, but my money's going for the S&W 586 4" blued the classic:) Of course by the time I'll afford they probably will be a collector's item. They may already be that:)
Who needs audio balancing when you've got hickok45... an official youtube hero.
Love this guy and his love of firearms. Always sensible, knowledgeable information and advice. A great ambassador for interest in firearms.