I just to say I was prescribed a statin and I didn’t take it. I waited to see what my next bloodwork showed. The levels were in normal range. Months later I told the doctor I wasn’t taking tthem. He was annoyed with me. He said everyone should be on statins. Needles to say, I never went back. As long as I control what I eat, my levels are great. Thank you for your very informative podcast.
Wow. What an insightful and balanced convo. I am a 3rd year medical student and I am absolutely appalled by the state of health in American and the corruption of the medical field by big pharma and insurance (to name a few). It’s all about money. I have been listening to Casey and Callie means, you, Vinay prasad, Marty makary, Suneel dhand, Wendy dean, etc, because this TRUTH is the only hope I have for staying in this field. I am so concerned about my future. I cannot in good conscience simply follow algorithm, drug pushing medicine when I KNOW there any many root causes of disease. Pills have their place but they have swallowed medicine whole! (pun intended). I don’t know which way to go for residency and beyond. NO ONE at my institution is up to date with this. If you mention anything remotely alternative you get mocked and chastised. I really wish there was a group for doctors who actually think critically about these things and know the truth!! I need a mentor!
@@c.m.8776 Bless you for going beyond what is taught in medical school. If you have read Dr Means book Good Energy you know that chronic inflammation is the driver of most chronic illnesses ( heart disease , Cancer Diabetes). But there is not a drug to treat an elevated hsCRP so ....😞😓💔 I highly recommend podcasts by Dr Robert Lustig about how our ultraprocessed food supply is spiked with sugar and that the OD on sugar (especially liquid sugar) is the cause of the huge number of obese/ overweight Americans. ( Fructose is a mitochondrial poison). Highly recommend Dr. Rob Lustig 's lectures esp for a med student. Hang in there , we e need people like you. Recommend also Dr Lustigs book " Metabolical ". He explains that the cellular changes causing American Health issues are not druggable , they are only treatable by eating whole foods. Good luck ,🥰😍🤩❤️💪🖖live long and prosper
Congratulations on becoming a doctor. I commend you on your integrity. I would say to you. To follow the e doctors on the Podcasts who cares about the health of their patients. Stay in the business because we need more good doctors like you who cares about us and not the medicine.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
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Looking forward to meeting your first patient as you are a conscientious professional!!
Yes to lifestyle change instead of medication. I'm 66 and spent 120 days switched to a whole-food plant-based diet. Decreased cholesterol 27 % (243 to 177) LDL by 40% (172 to 103) A1C: 6.1 to 5.9, CRP: .8 to .2, APoB : 122 to 86. Cholesterol ratio from 4.1 to 3.2. I know I'm crowing but I was so heartened! I can definitely keep up this lifestyle. (Oh and I forgot to mention weight loss without trying. 😀)
Dr Hyman! So thankful for your passion for food / drugs. I am a faithful subscriber! Sending this to a friend just prescribed statins. I have a request! Can you, along with your colleagues, look into the cost of eye shots for macular degeneration? It is unbelievable…even with insurance. There are “grants” but currently closed. Is anyone working on this? We need an advocate in this area! Thank you for all you do!
@@lindastraub7542 yes, though to be fair, Dr Hyman isn’t, & doesn’t claim to be, a cardiovascular expert. All the more reason for him to be listening here vs interrupting with side topics.
I am just starting to listen in, but I have already known this for as long as I remember: I will NEVER resort to taking any type of pills on a daily basis. For me, any medication, even a painkiller for a headache, is a last resort that I will avoid at all costs. The pharma industry’s main goal is not our long-term health, but generating ever increasing profits for their shareholders. How? By getting people to take more and more drugs daily for the rest of their lives. It reminds me of how smokers become lifelong prisoners of tobacco companies. The notion that these companies are honest and transparent about side effects, long-term effects, and other related issues is fundamentally contradictory to their very existence. It is far more likely that they will continue to lie about the truth about these topics for as long as they can get away with it. Just as tobacco companies lied for decades, or how food companies engineer hyper-palatable ultra-processed foods that lead people to overea, then get sick, obese, infertile, etc. over time. I will live and die on my own terms for as long as life lasts. I truly believe that no pill on earth can improve your well-being better than a healthy lifestyle can. This includes consuming whole, unprocessed foods that don’t have labels or advertising budgets attached to it, exercising regularly, enough quality sleep, fostering meaningful relationships, and managing stress.
Fascinating and so helpful. Love you Dr. Hyman but I beg you to please replace the awful, distracting business jargon nonsense (let's double-click into that, unpack that...) with normal, real language.
Just look at the % of the health budgets spent on prevention. In the USA it's 3%, UK is less than 5%......I was immediately prescribed a statin for a T2D diagnosis and never took it. Instead I took a path of diet and lifestyle change and reversed the disease. More than a decade on I'm still not on a statin and in full health. A GP told me that GPs prescribe statins because the vast majority of people will never show the discipline required to take the natural approach. And all the time big pharma rolls on
I'm guessing this cycle of drugs-academia-money is going to start coming undone. In almost every conversation I have with friends about health or nutrition, somebody is quick to say, there's no money in...vitamins, supplements, healthy food, etc. People are catching on. They don't like the expense and hate the side effects of prescription drugs. And when changing your life style and taking supplements makes you feel good, nobody wants the expensive crap that hurts.
Mark completely discounted and glazed over his guests comments about meditation, tending to the spirit. It’s not just about the physical science, Mark.
I’m a 64 year old female and I can’t lose a pound. I have arthritis, high cortisol, high blood pressure-following an anti-inflammatory diet for 9 months. Also, do you have favorite supplements for microbiome improvement?
BUT what about some of the populous that ARE genetically PREDISPOSED to developing the bad CHOLESTEROL in their system? I was told by my doctor to take my statin for life and that my dieting and lifestyle modifications will NOT work for me WHAT DO I DO…
I am a little confused when you use the term "PRIMARY PREVENTION." Here is my question-If a person has definite coronary plaque/atherosclerosis, YET that individual has never experienced a cardiovascular event (i.e. MACE, heart attack, stroke), is that person catagorized as in PRIMARY PREVENTION or SECONDARY PREVENTION?
Yes. Per the doctors. You could do a Dietary change and if you would like to take a statin mainly for inflammation. It would be your choice. Which is primary prevention.
Yes they do and from what I have read they get shut down very quickly. Dr Casey Means left her profession because among other things she was severely reprimanded for suggesting a patient eat an anti inflammatory diet.
I'm on low saturated fat. You just have to eat nuts, avocado, olives, tahini. I have lost about 9lbs though, still just a healthy weight and I do have oily fish for the important omega 3s and Vit D in winter and eggs but only 2 a week.
I sincerely wish Dr Hyman would work on enunciating more clearly. Have some speech therapy perhaps. I can often barely understand his points and can only do so in context because of the slurring of syllables together. It does not help to slow the speed of the video because he doesn’t articulate properly. There is too much to say that’s critically important for him to slur his way through the points.
@ I’ll evaluate my hearing, though I haven’t noted an issue to date. I can hear him & volume up or down doesn’t make any difference. He swallows entire syllables: skips right over them. “Cardiovascular”, for example, becomes “carvaslar”. That one I can readily understand because of the context and the syllables he does pronounce are a part of the familiar word he probably means. In other points I’m not already familiar with, it’s a lot of work to replay and interpret.
I so appreciate how they are trying to bring everything to light. Still it is very confusing. I am 60 and I have LDL of 242, HDL of 35 and triglycerides of 152. My doctor prescribed Repatha which I have not taken because I’m afraid. And, I started a carnivore diet 8 weeks ago. I have no idea if I’m doing myself harm or good. It is very confusing!!!
@@joancook5665 in all honesty, I read a book by Casey Means called Good Energy and discovered that I had 4 of the 5 markers of metabolic dysfunction and I started carnivore and walking to lose weight and try to change some of those factors. I lost 22 lbs in 7 weeks and lowered my triglycerides and I am trying to raise my HDL by walking. I am skeptical about the myth that low fat is the heart health answer.
Please stop looking at your computer and typing while your esteemed guest is talking. It's very distracting and sends the message (to him and to us) that he is not important. His subject matter is VERY important and I am grateful you have him on the show.
He really needs lessons in how to be a good interviewer. He constantly interrupts. In every interview. It’s like he’s gloating that he knows more than his guest.
Just saw that you were interviewed on Fox News in defense of RFK Jr. While I think some of what he stands for it important to look at, he sold out to DT to get in position, if he is confirmed. I'm very disappointed to find out you have any support for this current administration. I sadly have to unfollow you. There are other ways to turn the US health issues around other than supporting a fascist.
Unfortunately you have been propagandized. Stop listening to proven liars like Rachel Maddow who gets paid $400,000k per episode. You think she gets that for telling the truth? Don’t stop listening to good people because of politics. RFK Jr. is looking for common ground, not blind allegiance or demanding his own way.
Listen to yourself. RFK put the health of the US before himself. He did not sell out to DT. His primary purpose is to make Americans healthy. You should be pleased Donald Trump cares about the health of Americans considering the appalling statistics. Typical lack of pragmatic thinking.
I have read many books, I listened to many UA-cam videos by many of the world's leading gurus and health experts but nothing came close to the hidden herbs by anette ray. I recommend everyone giving it a read.
I pray to God that everyone who is reading this gets better and stays healthy. What helped me is using the herbs from the book the hidden herbs by anette ray
I just to say I was prescribed a statin and I didn’t take it. I waited to see what my next bloodwork showed. The levels were in normal range. Months later I told the doctor I wasn’t taking tthem. He was annoyed with me. He said everyone should be on statins. Needles to say, I never went back. As long as I control what I eat, my levels are great. Thank you for your very informative podcast.
I've done exactly what you did. I was prescribed it and didn't take it.
Wow. What an insightful and balanced convo. I am a 3rd year medical student and I am absolutely appalled by the state of health in American and the corruption of the medical field by big pharma and insurance (to name a few). It’s all about money. I have been listening to Casey and Callie means, you, Vinay prasad, Marty makary, Suneel dhand, Wendy dean, etc, because this TRUTH is the only hope I have for staying in this field. I am so concerned about my future. I cannot in good conscience simply follow algorithm, drug pushing medicine when I KNOW there any many root causes of disease. Pills have their place but they have swallowed medicine whole! (pun intended). I don’t know which way to go for residency and beyond. NO ONE at my institution is up to date with this. If you mention anything remotely alternative you get mocked and chastised. I really wish there was a group for doctors who actually think critically about these things and know the truth!! I need a mentor!
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@@c.m.8776 Bless you for going beyond what is taught in medical school. If you have read Dr Means book Good Energy you know that chronic inflammation is the driver of most chronic illnesses ( heart disease , Cancer Diabetes). But there is not a drug to treat an elevated hsCRP so ....😞😓💔 I highly recommend podcasts by Dr Robert Lustig about how our ultraprocessed food supply is spiked with sugar and that the OD on sugar (especially liquid sugar) is the cause of the huge number of obese/ overweight Americans. ( Fructose is a mitochondrial poison). Highly recommend Dr. Rob Lustig 's lectures esp for a med student. Hang in there , we e need people like you. Recommend also Dr Lustigs book " Metabolical ". He explains that the cellular changes causing American Health issues are not druggable , they are only treatable by eating whole foods. Good luck ,🥰😍🤩❤️💪🖖live long and prosper
Congratulations on becoming a doctor. I commend you on your integrity. I would say to you. To follow the e doctors on the Podcasts who cares about the health of their patients.
Stay in the business because we need more good doctors like you who cares about us and not the medicine.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Looking forward to meeting your first patient as you are a conscientious professional!!
Yes to lifestyle change instead of medication. I'm 66 and spent 120 days switched to a whole-food plant-based diet. Decreased cholesterol 27 % (243 to 177) LDL by 40% (172 to 103) A1C: 6.1 to 5.9, CRP: .8 to .2, APoB : 122 to 86. Cholesterol ratio from 4.1 to 3.2. I know I'm crowing but I was so heartened! I can definitely keep up this lifestyle. (Oh and I forgot to mention weight loss without trying. 😀)
Yes!
Thank God we have you Mark. Keep doing a great job.
love the great lively discussion. felt like they just put the camera on and talked as doctors would.
👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯very well said 👍🏻 ❤❤
Big fan of Dr Mark Hyman.
I wish more time was spent on lifestyle changes.
Dr Hyman!
So thankful for your passion for food / drugs. I am a faithful subscriber! Sending this to a friend just prescribed statins.
I have a request!
Can you, along with your colleagues, look into the cost of eye shots for macular degeneration?
It is unbelievable…even with insurance. There are “grants” but currently closed.
Is anyone working on this? We need an advocate in this area!
Thank you for all you do!
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Having watched the whole thing ... i have to say this dr. Could teach dr hyman a few things.
It is always good to have doctors conversating on youtube....WE LEARN A LOT!!
@@lindastraub7542 yes, though to be fair, Dr Hyman isn’t, & doesn’t claim to be, a cardiovascular expert. All the more reason for him to be listening here vs interrupting with side topics.
Yes, if Dr Hyman would stop interrupting.
Thank you Dr Hyman, for your service and pursuit of what is best for our health. I also appreciate the platform you keep available to us.
I am just starting to listen in, but I have already known this for as long as I remember: I will NEVER resort to taking any type of pills on a daily basis. For me, any medication, even a painkiller for a headache, is a last resort that I will avoid at all costs.
The pharma industry’s main goal is not our long-term health, but generating ever increasing profits for their shareholders. How? By getting people to take more and more drugs daily for the rest of their lives. It reminds me of how smokers become lifelong prisoners of tobacco companies.
The notion that these companies are honest and transparent about side effects, long-term effects, and other related issues is fundamentally contradictory to their very existence. It is far more likely that they will continue to lie about the truth about these topics for as long as they can get away with it. Just as tobacco companies lied for decades, or how food companies engineer hyper-palatable ultra-processed foods that lead people to overea, then get sick, obese, infertile, etc. over time.
I will live and die on my own terms for as long as life lasts. I truly believe that no pill on earth can improve your well-being better than a healthy lifestyle can. This includes consuming whole, unprocessed foods that don’t have labels or advertising budgets attached to it, exercising regularly, enough quality sleep, fostering meaningful relationships, and managing stress.
👍👍👍💯💯❤
Well said 🙌 I am the same... A pill for every ill 😧
ABSOLUTELY 💯 great podcast with so much good information and honest opinions by a doctor. 🙏🏻🙏🏻We need more doctors like Dr Aseem Malhotra.
Fascinating and so helpful. Love you Dr. Hyman but I beg you to please replace the awful, distracting business jargon nonsense (let's double-click into that, unpack that...) with normal, real language.
I thought Dr Malcolm Kendrick did most of this work? And Mark's interruptions were quite annoying.
Thank you!! Thank you, thank you!!!
Thank you ever so much dear doctors...
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Unless you had a prior heart attack, statins are totally unnecessary and pretty much worthless.
Just look at the % of the health budgets spent on prevention. In the USA it's 3%, UK is less than 5%......I was immediately prescribed a statin for a T2D diagnosis and never took it. Instead I took a path of diet and lifestyle change and reversed the disease. More than a decade on I'm still not on a statin and in full health. A GP told me that GPs prescribe statins because the vast majority of people will never show the discipline required to take the natural approach. And all the time big pharma rolls on
I agree with DR. Aseem
I'm guessing this cycle of drugs-academia-money is going to start coming undone. In almost every conversation I have with friends about health or nutrition, somebody is quick to say, there's no money in...vitamins, supplements, healthy food, etc. People are catching on. They don't like the expense and hate the side effects of prescription drugs. And when changing your life style and taking supplements makes you feel good, nobody wants the expensive crap that hurts.
It’s crazy no one here is talking about the hidden herbs by Anette Ray…
Where are the citations to these publications you keep utilizing to back your arguments?
This is will affect the discussion. Do the research yourself.
Mark completely discounted and glazed over his guests comments about meditation, tending to the spirit. It’s not just about the physical science, Mark.
Zoe Harcomb winning lawsuit on statins, defamation is good. Aseem lost his job at the hospital..
Shortly after statins doc says my thyroid is...
I never get this answered. I have 2 stents. can I stop statins?
You cannot expect an answer on UA-cam to a question about a complex medical situation! Sheesh!!
Yes you can. My husband same situation takes plant sterols very successfully.
However Nancy is right it is up to the individual to do research. Each case is different.
@nancycy9039 sheesh youself
@@digdogdennisI didn’t mean my comment to be insulting. Sorry
Just LOVED this conversation…
Let’s wake up to this crap!
I’m a 64 year old female and I can’t lose a pound. I have arthritis, high cortisol, high blood pressure-following an anti-inflammatory diet for 9 months. Also, do you have favorite supplements for microbiome improvement?
BUT what about some of the populous that ARE genetically PREDISPOSED to developing the bad CHOLESTEROL in their system?
I was told by my doctor to take my statin for life and that my dieting and lifestyle modifications will NOT work for me
WHAT DO I DO…
I am a little confused when you use the term "PRIMARY PREVENTION." Here is my question-If a person has definite coronary plaque/atherosclerosis, YET that individual has never experienced a cardiovascular event (i.e. MACE, heart attack, stroke), is that person catagorized as in PRIMARY PREVENTION or SECONDARY PREVENTION?
Yes. Per the doctors. You could do a Dietary change and if you would like to take a statin mainly for inflammation. It would be your choice. Which is primary prevention.
Secondary prevention is usually defined as the patient has already had a cardiac event.
nice Mark, adding nuanc to the Big Pharm conversation. Thank you! Its not an easy job with such black and white thinking in this culture...
I have 180 to 200 high cholostrole since 30 years refuse to take statin surprise surprise Still kicking!
The older you are the more the side effects hit you even harder and harder as you age.
Was there a scandal of DOLPHIN BABIES concerning a certain antidepressant drug ?
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This is literally laughable. Wtf do doctors learn in eight years? Doesn't any medical student ask a fundamental question about why disease happens.?
Yes they do and from what I have read they get shut down very quickly. Dr Casey Means left her profession because among other things she was severely reprimanded for suggesting a patient eat an anti inflammatory diet.
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Mark is dangerously close to becoming like big pharma……plugging for his Function venture
I wouldn't even be able to get enough calories in if i didn't eat saturated fats.
I'm on low saturated fat. You just have to eat nuts, avocado, olives, tahini. I have lost about 9lbs though, still just a healthy weight and I do have oily fish for the important omega 3s and Vit D in winter and eggs but only 2 a week.
I sincerely wish Dr Hyman would work on enunciating more clearly. Have some speech therapy perhaps. I can often barely understand his points and can only do so in context because of the slurring of syllables together. It does not help to slow the speed of the video because he doesn’t articulate properly.
There is too much to say that’s critically important for him to slur his way through the points.
Agree 💯%
I can understand him clearly
@ I’ll evaluate my hearing, though I haven’t noted an issue to date. I can hear him & volume up or down doesn’t make any difference. He swallows entire syllables: skips right over them. “Cardiovascular”, for example, becomes “carvaslar”. That one I can readily understand because of the context and the syllables he does pronounce are a part of the familiar word he probably means. In other points I’m not already familiar with, it’s a lot of work to replay and interpret.
RFK Jr REALLY?
Don’t bring the laptop to the show it’s rude
A lot of podcaster have information in front of them. They also want to quote the information they are talking about.
I so appreciate how they are trying to bring everything to light. Still it is very confusing. I am 60 and I have LDL of 242, HDL of 35 and triglycerides of 152. My doctor prescribed Repatha which I have not taken because I’m afraid. And, I started a carnivore diet 8 weeks ago. I have no idea if I’m doing myself harm or good. It is very confusing!!!
I'm just curious, why did you choose to go on a carnivore diet?
You’re taking a risk. You should change your diet to: lower sat fat, high fiber, high protein. Fill in with carbs and fats to hit your weight goal
@@joancook5665 in all honesty, I read a book by Casey Means called Good Energy and discovered that I had 4 of the 5 markers of metabolic dysfunction and I started carnivore and walking to lose weight and try to change some of those factors. I lost 22 lbs in 7 weeks and lowered my triglycerides and I am trying to raise my HDL by walking. I am skeptical about the myth that low fat is the heart health answer.
Your LDL is I believe too high compared to your HDL.
@ I agree, but I am mainly concerned with my Tri:HDL ratio
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Please stop looking at your computer and typing while your esteemed guest is talking. It's very distracting and sends the message (to him and to us) that he is not important. His subject matter is VERY important and I am grateful you have him on the show.
And please stop interrupting him so much - takes the discussion off on a side track.
He really needs lessons in how to be a good interviewer. He constantly interrupts. In every interview. It’s like he’s gloating that he knows more than his guest.
Tough crowd here…
He looking at notes, and if a question pops up in his head he jots it down. Sharing freely information.
Karen’s, you’re complaining is nauseating.
and the brain
Unfortunately statins can be useful for most patients because most patients are metabolically unwell.
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Just saw that you were interviewed on Fox News in defense of RFK Jr. While I think some of what he stands for it important to look at, he sold out to DT to get in position, if he is confirmed. I'm very disappointed to find out you have any support for this current administration. I sadly have to unfollow you. There are other ways to turn the US health issues around other than supporting a fascist.
Unfortunately you have been propagandized. Stop listening to proven liars like Rachel Maddow who gets paid $400,000k per episode. You think she gets that for telling the truth? Don’t stop listening to good people because of politics. RFK Jr. is looking for common ground, not blind allegiance or demanding his own way.
This is the kind of bullshit that divides our country… right action, working together wins… we are all American and need to work together
Listen to yourself. RFK put the health of the US before himself. He did not sell out to DT. His primary purpose is to make Americans healthy. You should be pleased Donald Trump cares about the health of Americans considering the appalling statistics. Typical lack of pragmatic thinking.
How is DT a Fascist? Was his successful first term show that he is a Fascist? Stop listening to the lying MSM. MAGA MAGA. MAHA MAHA.
Everyone watching this go find the book the hidden herbs by anette ray
I have read many books, I listened to many UA-cam videos by many of the world's leading gurus and health experts but nothing came close to the hidden herbs by anette ray. I recommend everyone giving it a read.
thank you. it seems like you need to be your own doctor these days. for everyone reading this i recommend the book the hidden herbs by anette ray
I pray to God that everyone who is reading this gets better and stays healthy. What helped me is using the herbs from the book the hidden herbs by anette ray