A tip from experience for new stipplers. Start with the right side of the pistol. Everyone looks at the left side because they’re holding it in their right hand. When you get to the left side your nerves are settled and you’re getting the hang of it. The 2nd side is always the best job.
If you’re into mass production, I understand trying to make the process quicker, however, if you want it to look the best, take your time and do one dot at a time. If it’s your own pistol that you’ll keep for years, what does it matter if it takes 3 hours.
Actually if you do a random pattern it tends to blend a lot better. a little rotation of the grip helps also. Your eye tends to pick up patterns easier so if its random it will actually look better.
I started stippling my Glock 17 frame last night and I made my own tips as well. Took the regular pointed tip and made the point much finer for my borderlines and made a double waffle tip by taking a straight piece and splitting the end of it to make a double line pattern.
I've used these tips(the square waffle tip) on a few on my glocks. You don't need to sand down the factory bumps. The waffle tips are large enough to blend the bump right into the grip.
The small waffle tip that you did that rolling technique 3rd over from the left looks awesome. Really like that small waffle pattern. Ignore the naysayers. Didn't like the one second from the left quite as much (a bit too large of a divet for my taste), but that's why you're trying it on A2 grips. To test them out and improve your technique. Personally I think you're on the right track.
I have not read the other comments but wait. U can clean the tips and get more usage out of them than the two that you spoke of. All you need is to buy several cheap wire brushes. They may come in stainless steel or brass, one's a little harder than the other one. Just brush the tip while the iron is either still hot or warm, this will clean the tip and you'll get more usage out of them.
Am seriously considering sending you my G-19, but have to admit that the square Weller tip looks way better on your previous vid. I paid particular attention how you rotated your work for each stipple. That's the way to do it. Just my 2 cents.
Before I ever started seeing people stippling plastic parts for grip, I took old checkering files, for metal work, and wrap around checkered some AR grips. Today, when I bring out a rifle with those grips, people always ask where they came from. To me, stippling is too much like sand paper and isn't comfortable, especially with rifles. I think the original ones I did were 24LPI and now I use a 30LPI file. I takes longer than stippling with a soldering iron but looks much more traditional. And, plastic doesn't take near the work of metal. Oh yeah, 24LPI cuts too deep for most plastic frames. That's why I switched to 30LPI.
I PURCHASED THE TIPS AND WOW!!!! I JUST FINISHED THE GRIP ON MY GEN 4 GLOCK 19 IN LESS THAN TWENTY MINUTES. THE TIPS WORK EXTREMELY WELL, I BELIEVE IT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE WAFFLE PATTERN ZEV USES ON THEIR CUSTOM GLOCK FRAMES....FOR LESS THAN 20.00 THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.....
I like the otd tips, awesome idea but too pricey when you can get a plethora of inexpensive tips off Amazon and get close to the same results. Wish they'd price them more competitively.
I can say that when I first made this video, there weren't many other options that I could find. That said, I still prefer supporting local companies when I can.
I know I'm joining the cacophony of opinionated comments, but, this is just my opinion. I've been stippling Glock polymers for about 15 years. The temperature of the burner doesn't have to be that high. Your previous work looks really clean so it looks like you already know this. I increase the temp on my wood burner until it just starts to displace material. Too hot and it liquifies the polymer and increases the amount of raised surface and the flashing that needs to be cleaned off. A heavy build-up of melted polymer on the burner tip is also an indication that your temperature is too high. If you displace too much material the job looks sloppy and can actually be counterproductive to a grip reduction. I'm assuming the projects you did on this video were rushed and you were just trying the tips out. I've considered these tips before but I'd prefer a squared profile to make lining the pattern up easier.
Thier new website and tips are awesome... They even have a test stippling sheet and new patterns. It also says Trump2020 on their website so that's also nice.
I know this video is old but I am a little confused on how you were just then thinking of using a waffle type tip. I am playing stippling videos while I am doing my first stippling job with my first wood burning kit and I planed on using the waffle type tip from the time I decided to do my frame. The difference between yours and mine tho is yours actually looked okay and I am giving mine cancer...lol Good vid tho
Was excited to try it out got mine today and Both heads were clogged after a quick practice test on a grip couldn't event use it on my gun 🙄. Back to the drawing boards
I'm not sure how hot your wood burner gets, but I know on mine, if I just leave it on, it will burn off all of the polymer. Also what I've done with other tips is while the burner is turned on, I'll take a small flathead screw driver and clean out the grooves.
Hey, thanks for the video! I have a few stipple handguns but have yet to do one of my own. Just curious what part of Oregon are you in? I am in Southern Oregon, in the woods south of Grants Pass. Thanks!
DUUUDE, DO NOT ONLY USE THISE TWICE!!! They are brass and can be cleaned with a torch and brass or wire brush. Do not pay for those every tie. You need to use those, they just want your money(they probably ask for the back as a core charge lol)
How long did it take you to fully learn how to properly stipple a frame ? I’m wanting to get into that myself and this video was just the gateway to actually pursue it.
I purchased these same tips but I'm not getting the same type of pattern. I assume it's me and my technique. Perhaps I'm making the tip to hot? I get about 6-7 waffle patterns then it turns to mush. The tip gets completely filled with polymer and the pattern stops printing. I'm practicing on PMAGs before moving to frames, that may also play a factor as I know the polymer of a PMAG is much softer than an A2 grip or glock frame. ... I'm just wondering if you have some advice? I'm also using the walnut hollow wood burning tool that has variable temperature control. Let me know if you have any advice, thanks
I haven't had that issue. I'm not sure whether my tip is hotter or colder but mine says it heats to 950F. At that temperature I don't have any issues with polymer sticking inside the tool. It seems to burn off any residual polymer that would form.
+griffin dozier I'm sure you could, I would use a very corse sand paper at first to get the texturing off though because it will take a long time to do it by hand.
OreGear Unless u can prove to me these bits r forged, then I ain't buying them. Or send me an article that Ugandan security used them in Iraq. What's the hold up with that lube review? You're just gonna say, "It isn't EWL Slip2000." The end.
+RageQuit003 I'm going to drag it out a little bit by quantifying exactly why I would never use it by referencing the MSDS sheets. Plus I'm going to show off my nascar style coveralls with all my sponsors.
Hi. I have a M&P9. Would I have to sand it down first like you did or can I just use the wood burner as is over the grip (like you did in your other video with the video solder). Thanks.
With M&Ps, you should be fine just using the wood burner over the existing texture. The texturing is softer and more uniform on M&Ps, so you shouldn't run into any issues with it disrupting your stippling. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! I think it depends on the style you're going for with your stippling. I think that by having them round it allows the user to more easily follow contours and curves on their gun. It would be far easier to do straight lines with a rectangular tip though.
I'll add to the page here what we discussed on the phone Sam, incase others have the same question - Guns other then black will generally leave a small black tint when using most tips, especially the waffle tips. It takes a ton of time for an FDE gun because you have to keep the tips brushed off with a wire brush to prevent any polymer from sitting on it, and then pushing into your gun frame. As to the small round breaking, replacement is in the mail.
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They must be out of business? It says can't reach site
Absolutely! I think this makes it a lot more practical for people to stipple their guns, mags, stocks, etc. Doesn't hurt that they're made in Oregon. I appreciate you watching!
Agreed! And they're affordable! By the way, I'm going to try to polish up some of my Cold Steel knives next week. I hope to get mine as smooth as yours!
+OreGear just be kinda careful around the lock surface and polish contact points on blade and lock bar and polish washers and u will be golden!!! I love me some cold steel and I love working on them
My OCD kicked in. Not for me. I'm just imagining having to clean out all the crap that fills in the grip. Gonna have to scrub it a lot. Have you ever cleaned out a pc mouse. Or scraped a mouse pad all that crap is oil and skin flake. OCD is off the charts. Not to say this is bad. I'm sure is amazing. Definitely not for me.
Looks terrible, your original one much better. There’s no short cuts for perfection. Also you can clean the stipples head with a fine wire bush while the iron is hot.
A tip from experience for new stipplers. Start with the right side of the pistol. Everyone looks at the left side because they’re holding it in their right hand. When you get to the left side your nerves are settled and you’re getting the hang of it. The 2nd side is always the best job.
practicing on some plastic before can help too.
Even though this was shot on a potato, it’s by far the most thorough frame modification series. It holds up 7 years later. Well done.
Also, after you stipple, use a small butane torch and lightly go over your work. It will take the high ridges off and make everything uniform
Lee Scott RIGHT!!! 🤦🏼♂️
No it wont. It will simply ruin the stipple job . your an idiot
If you keep the tip on the burner and use a fine wire brush you can use one tip forever. Using only for 2 stippling jobs is kinda BS
Yeah, I was like WTF?! Only 2?
Thats what i was thinking.
If you’re into mass production, I understand trying to make the process quicker, however, if you want it to look the best, take your time and do one dot at a time. If it’s your own pistol that you’ll keep for years, what does it matter if it takes 3 hours.
Actually if you do a random pattern it tends to blend a lot better. a little rotation of the grip helps also. Your eye tends to pick up patterns easier so if its random it will actually look better.
I started stippling my Glock 17 frame last night and I made my own tips as well. Took the regular pointed tip and made the point much finer for my borderlines and made a double waffle tip by taking a straight piece and splitting the end of it to make a double line pattern.
I've used these tips(the square waffle tip) on a few on my glocks. You don't need to sand down the factory bumps. The waffle tips are large enough to blend the bump right into the grip.
You don’t need to sand them down even if you’re not using the waffle tip.
The small waffle tip that you did that rolling technique 3rd over from the left looks awesome. Really like that small waffle pattern.
Ignore the naysayers.
Didn't like the one second from the left quite as much (a bit too large of a divet for my taste), but that's why you're trying it on A2 grips. To test them out and improve your technique.
Personally I think you're on the right track.
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching
Heat those tips up and use a brass brush to clean out the build-up should make those tips last a lot longer
I like the grip you spent 3 hours on. The test grips weren't all that impressive IMO.
I have not read the other comments but wait. U can clean the tips and get more usage out of them than the two that you spoke of. All you need is to buy several cheap wire brushes. They may come in stainless steel or brass, one's a little harder than the other one. Just brush the tip while the iron is either still hot or warm, this will clean the tip and you'll get more usage out of them.
Am seriously considering sending you my G-19, but have to admit that the square Weller tip looks way better on your previous vid. I paid particular attention how you rotated your work for each stipple. That's the way to do it. Just my 2 cents.
Before I ever started seeing people stippling plastic parts for grip, I took old checkering files, for metal work, and wrap around checkered some AR grips. Today, when I bring out a rifle with those grips, people always ask where they came from. To me, stippling is too much like sand paper and isn't comfortable, especially with rifles. I think the original ones I did were 24LPI and now I use a 30LPI file. I takes longer than stippling with a soldering iron but looks much more traditional. And, plastic doesn't take near the work of metal.
Oh yeah, 24LPI cuts too deep for most plastic frames. That's why I switched to 30LPI.
I PURCHASED THE TIPS AND WOW!!!! I JUST FINISHED THE GRIP ON MY GEN 4 GLOCK 19 IN LESS THAN TWENTY MINUTES. THE TIPS WORK EXTREMELY WELL, I BELIEVE IT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE WAFFLE PATTERN ZEV USES ON THEIR CUSTOM GLOCK FRAMES....FOR LESS THAN 20.00 THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.....
You're welcome! I'm glad they worked out for you!
I like the otd tips, awesome idea but too pricey when you can get a plethora of inexpensive tips off Amazon and get close to the same results. Wish they'd price them more competitively.
I can say that when I first made this video, there weren't many other options that I could find. That said, I still prefer supporting local companies when I can.
I am going to do this myself as well!
I know I'm joining the cacophony of opinionated comments, but, this is just my opinion. I've been stippling Glock polymers for about 15 years. The temperature of the burner doesn't have to be that high. Your previous work looks really clean so it looks like you already know this. I increase the temp on my wood burner until it just starts to displace material. Too hot and it liquifies the polymer and increases the amount of raised surface and the flashing that needs to be cleaned off. A heavy build-up of melted polymer on the burner tip is also an indication that your temperature is too high. If you displace too much material the job looks sloppy and can actually be counterproductive to a grip reduction. I'm assuming the projects you did on this video were rushed and you were just trying the tips out. I've considered these tips before but I'd prefer a squared profile to make lining the pattern up easier.
Thier new website and tips are awesome... They even have a test stippling sheet and new patterns. It also says Trump2020 on their website so that's also nice.
Ya a good wire brush or a good soak in a strong solvent for forever use of the tip
use a metal brush to clean the tip out while its hot. You need to clean the tip about every 10 min. That's how you get a nice even job.
Your G21 looks Great! IM impressed!
As a 76 yr old welsh man who only speaks English i wonder if reaching out, is anything like going forward, some clarification would be helpful.
Really loving that waffle look!!!! 👍🏼
Bought a sets of stippling tips from oregear very nice
+Al Uy Glad you like them. OTDefense is making great stuff.
Just bought their kit! Great video! Thanks for all the tips.
I know this video is old but I am a little confused on how you were just then thinking of using a waffle type tip. I am playing stippling videos while I am doing my first stippling job with my first wood burning kit and I planed on using the waffle type tip from the time I decided to do my frame. The difference between yours and mine tho is yours actually looked okay and I am giving mine cancer...lol Good vid tho
Was excited to try it out got mine today and Both heads were clogged after a quick practice test on a grip couldn't event use it on my gun 🙄. Back to the drawing boards
I'm not sure how hot your wood burner gets, but I know on mine, if I just leave it on, it will burn off all of the polymer. Also what I've done with other tips is while the burner is turned on, I'll take a small flathead screw driver and clean out the grooves.
try removing the finger grove on the a2 grip b4 u stipple it .ir makes a world of difference in the grip
Nice video 👍 whats the best grip pattern for the hand and shooting ?
Hey, thanks for the video! I have a few stipple handguns but have yet to do one of my own. Just curious what part of Oregon are you in? I am in Southern Oregon, in the woods south of Grants Pass. Thanks!
I'm up in Lane County right now.
cool, I was just curious, I lived in Eugene for some years. Thanks for the videos!!
I'm in the Eugene/Springfield area myself. No problem! Thanks for watching!
What did you use to record this video it looks amazing!
What tip did you use for the 26? I agree that looks better than the waffle tips.
How much grip do they provide? You never mention if they provide a good grip. Are they aggressive, mild, in between, etc?
DUUUDE, DO NOT ONLY USE THISE TWICE!!! They are brass and can be cleaned with a torch and brass or wire brush. Do not pay for those every tie. You need to use those, they just want your money(they probably ask for the back as a core charge lol)
I have the OTD adapter for the Weller sodering iorn
Just bought a glock 19 and already wanting to try this
Does anyone make an angled tip or adapter??? Having one would make stippling easier...reduce strain on your hands...
How long did it take you to fully learn how to properly stipple a frame ? I’m wanting to get into that myself and this video was just the gateway to actually pursue it.
I practiced on about 3 old AR grips before attempting my first Glock frame
the 2.0 stipple is amazing from the factory however there are still those older ones out there.
I purchased these same tips but I'm not getting the same type of pattern. I assume it's me and my technique. Perhaps I'm making the tip to hot? I get about 6-7 waffle patterns then it turns to mush. The tip gets completely filled with polymer and the pattern stops printing. I'm practicing on PMAGs before moving to frames, that may also play a factor as I know the polymer of a PMAG is much softer than an A2 grip or glock frame. ... I'm just wondering if you have some advice? I'm also using the walnut hollow wood burning tool that has variable temperature control. Let me know if you have any advice, thanks
I haven't had that issue. I'm not sure whether my tip is hotter or colder but mine says it heats to 950F. At that temperature I don't have any issues with polymer sticking inside the tool. It seems to burn off any residual polymer that would form.
So scared to mess up my expensive ones. What do you recommend practicing on.
Is this guy still in business? It says the site can not be reach...? I'd love to patronize. Please let me know.
Never mind. Found it!
Which Waffle tip size did you use? 12LPI 16, 20?
Great video
Thanks for watching!
Are you going to make tips that fit soldering irons ?
That's a great question for Micah! Go to OTDefense.com and hit him up.
Does he still sell these? The link to his website does not work. Thanks
+tyler durden He may have changed his website around. You can find them here: www.otdefense.com/waffle-stippling-tips--kits.html
What camera are you using for this video? Thanks,
I have one of his tips. works great.
What was the tool you used instead of your soldering tool ?
thanks for the coupon and the demo man!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
to sand it down before hand do you think you could just use regular sandpaper?
+griffin dozier I'm sure you could, I would use a very corse sand paper at first to get the texturing off though because it will take a long time to do it by hand.
Where do you buy the pistol grip blanks
Most gun stores have tons that they’re willing to just give away
I missed the coupon code. Was it "OreShill2016"?
I'll have to watch again, but I'm pretty u forgot to name drop that BCM RECCE.
I think if you use that code it adds 20%
OreGear Unless u can prove to me these bits r forged, then I ain't buying them. Or send me an article that Ugandan security used them in Iraq.
What's the hold up with that lube review? You're just gonna say, "It isn't EWL Slip2000." The end.
+RageQuit003 actually I'm going to say if you use it, it could kill you. And it's not Slip 2000.
OreGear So that should be about a 20 second vid after u say that and do your normal product placements for Inforce and BCM.
+RageQuit003 I'm going to drag it out a little bit by quantifying exactly why I would never use it by referencing the MSDS sheets. Plus I'm going to show off my nascar style coveralls with all my sponsors.
Hi. I have a M&P9. Would I have to sand it down first like you did or can I just use the wood burner as is over the grip (like you did in your other video with the video solder). Thanks.
With M&Ps, you should be fine just using the wood burner over the
existing texture. The texturing is softer and more uniform on M&Ps,
so you shouldn't run into any issues with it disrupting your stippling.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome. Thank you.
wouldn't it maybe be better if they were square shaped or rectangular?? Idk I like your G21 the best bro
Thank you! I think it depends on the style you're going for with your stippling. I think that by having them round it allows the user to more easily follow contours and curves on their gun. It would be far easier to do straight lines with a rectangular tip though.
There is a site that sells de-milled Glock reveivers..non firearms...do a Google for it...
i just ordered and made a stippling a glock fde and made alot black burn marks & small point broke in 20 min ?? why is it burning?
+Samson Propaganda it's hard to say, but it may be that whatever you're using isn't hot enough.
I'll add to the page here what we discussed on the phone Sam, incase others have the same question - Guns other then black will generally leave a small black tint when using most tips, especially the waffle tips. It takes a ton of time for an FDE gun because you have to keep the tips brushed off with a wire brush to prevent any polymer from sitting on it, and then pushing into your gun frame.
As to the small round breaking, replacement is in the mail.
They must be out of business? It says can't reach site
store.otdefense.com/collections/stippling-products
Nice camera resolution.
+Keith Brandson thanks for watching
What camera do you use??
Coupon code has been used up. Rectangle waffle tip coming next month!
waiting for this.
Its up now
OTDefense I just ordered round tip crap I should have looked up. I gauss I'll just order both
Thanks so much just what I was looking for
Great! Glad I could help!
Thanks for watching
What soldering iron/gun would these tips work with?
Any soldering iron or wood burner with 8-32 threads. I haven't found a wood burner locally that doesn't use that thread pattern.
Thanks for watching!
Clay Kesterson Most if not all are just a standard 6-32 machine screw. Hint hint. I made my own tips.
Why didnt he make the tips rectangular??? Smh
Have you heard if anyone trying to stipple those magpul phone cases i am trying to stipple mine and i was wondering if you have any tips for me
+lawson allen I actually just replaced my phone so I have a magpul case I can test out. I'll mess around with it tomorrow and let you know
+lawson allen I tried it out today and it worked a lot better than I expected. I'll probably make a video on it before the end of the week.
work smarter not harder
nice job
Thank you!
check out Dave modz customs good video showing how to make the edge nice and straight really good !
Do you accept frames from viewers to stipple?
+MrTactiCALi due to the gun laws here in Oregon I'm not able to work on other people's guns unfortunately.
What soldering iron are you using with these tips?Tnaks
+Timothy Euler (God Guns and Good Times) I'm using a wood burner that I picked up from Walmart. They should work with any wood burner though.
Probably would make more guys stipple their guns now that it doesn't take a half of a day. Very cool.
Absolutely! I think this makes it a lot more practical for people to stipple their guns, mags, stocks, etc. Doesn't hurt that they're made in Oregon.
I appreciate you watching!
man that looks great!!!
Agreed! And they're affordable! By the way, I'm going to try to polish up some of my Cold Steel knives next week. I hope to get mine as smooth as yours!
+OreGear just be kinda careful around the lock surface and polish contact points on blade and lock bar and polish washers and u will be golden!!! I love me some cold steel and I love working on them
Great! Thanks for the tips!
15 minutes.,..it shows. Just say it you can't rush it
sorry i don´t like the look - looks cheap and i would never use it
To each their own
good thing it's not your gun
My OCD kicked in. Not for me. I'm just imagining having to clean out all the crap that fills in the grip. Gonna have to scrub it a lot. Have you ever cleaned out a pc mouse. Or scraped a mouse pad all that crap is oil and skin flake. OCD is off the charts. Not to say this is bad. I'm sure is amazing. Definitely not for me.
Sorry but the ar 15 grips did not look good at all,,....
Where is Glock made?
+Herbert Morrison Georgia and Austria
The first one looked pretty fucked up.....the key is practice
Looks terrible, your original one much better. There’s no short cuts for perfection. Also you can clean the stipples head with a fine wire bush while the iron is hot.
doesn't this weaken the integrity of the frame?
I've never heard of any issues coming as a result of stippling a frame.
Yeah man looks bad really bad good things take time
Just my Opinion right? It looks like 💩
Looks terrible honestly