Watching the last season I can say poor Diana looked like a puppet who was manipulated by Dodi (who was under his dad's pressure to do so). In fact Diana could have avoided the fatal car crash as she didn't even want to be in Paris on that day. Dodi insisted they have to stop in Paris. They indeed visited the castle where that previous king and American wife lived before her death. She was trapped to be somewhere she didn't want to. After Crown episodes I blame her death on Fayed family. And let's be honest that relationship (potential marriage)with Dodi would have been a disaster for her as Fayed family intention was only to get into British aristocrats circle and they didn't care about Diana as private person, they just wanted to use her. On the internet I found that Dodi used drugs which wasn't even pictured in Crown. What a disaster. Poor Diana 😒😒
I've blamed this on the Fayeds since it happened.... I've always said Diana left an Al Fayed hotel in a Fayed car, with a Fayed bodyguard while sitting next to a Fayed! And that last-minute decision to leave the Ritz . It didn't take a psychic to see the end results. 😢
Yes the way Dodi was controlled by his father reminded me of Charles being controlled by his mother. Diana was in the same type of relationship. All she wanted was a protector.
I remember those days. From the beginning of the courtship until her shocking death it was full-on intense media coverage. Regarding Mohammad Al-Fayed imo he viewed a relationship between Dodi and Diana as his way to finally enter the English aristocracy. The romance with Dodi appeared to be a summer fling. Diana had just broken-up with the man she loved and wanted to marry, surgeon Hasnat Khan, and Dodi was a convenient way to make him jealous. Diana deserved much better than she received from the men in her life. May she RIP.
@@Yo19724 I wasn’t referring to the married men. I’m referring to her husband Charles, her lover James Hewitt and the man she wanted to marry surgeon Hasnat Khan. Dodi was just a summer fling.
I agree, very accurate observation, especially on the fact that the series really panders to Charles, portraying him first as an ambitious workaholic (season 5), then as as an empathetic voice of reason (season 6) - as we know from history, he was neither. Which brings me to the baddies of the series, where Mohamed AlFayed was really vilified. He didn’t have as much control over Dodi as the series made you think and Dodi was more of a fun rich spoiled kid which is what attracted the immature Diana to him in the first place - in real life he was definitely not the angry, brooding character that the series portrayed him as. I’m going to play devil’s advocate here because both Mohamed Al Fayed and Prince Charles have massive gains from Diana’s death and how they handled it. Let’s start with Al Fayed. He immediately called the accident an assasination, a murder, by the royal family who wanted Diana out of the headlines because she was eclipsing Charles, even after the divorce. (To be honest, a street light could outshine Charles, the man is a charisma black hole). Regardless, if we’re playing devil’s advocate, we could say that maybe Al Fayed was trying to redirect blame somewhere else after his security guys failed at protecting Diana, who was way too high profile for them to ever deal with and they just didn’t know how to handle the situation. Now let’s move on to Charles. Still playing devil’s advocate. He was in the middle of a campaign to bring out and legitimize Camilla. When Diana suddenly died an opportunity presented itself. I’m sure that Mark Bolland advised him, against the Queen’s wishes, to have Diana buried with all the honors of a royal. In the public’s mind he would look more like a widower and less as a divorce, since it was so fresh, and people would be more sympathetic to him moving on and marrying Camilla. Just something to think about.
I really feel for William. I could relate as someone who struggled with a mother’s death too. For me, the most poignant scene was him wandering outside. Imagine him processing his mom’s death on it’s own for that 14hrs in solitude? It’s like dying and coming back to life.
@@healthfitnesswithsandra of course his mother died. He was at the age when he understands death. I think he is the most sensitive of them all. He processed and managed well.
I binged watched the whole six episodes and loved it. I found it tastefully done and even learned a few things such as Mohammed El Fayad being the puppet master behind the budding relationship. I also appreciated how Dodi was portrayed insofar as the media, at that time, portrayed him as being as sleazy as his father. Although in the series, he was portrayed as weak and a daddy’s boy, he also came across as kind and sweet. The overall acting was superb. Will definitely watch again.
The photographer who took the pictures of D&D refuted the theory that M.Alfayed tipped him off. He is an Italian photographer who noted that he goes to Sardinia every year to take photos of celebs. Pls fact check esp that you are talking about fact vs.fiction in the series.
I think they really tried to show Charles in a better light this season… maybe because he’s king now? …I think they were far too generous to him, I can’t see him being that compassionate
Definitely made me feel for William. He has led for none of it, and although their was a level of codependency that was unhealthy between Diana and William. William knew love and care in a way that was stripped from him at only 15 years old. His years after and the growing anger he dealt with is something I’m so glad they explored.
What do you mean, ‘the bereaved father as he cast himself’. He ‘was’ a bereaved father. Al Fayed never got over Dodi’s death. Poor man. He may have played with the newspapers, but so did Diana etc. I do not think his grief was extreme, as parents who lose their children commonly show such extreme grief. Poor man does not need this in death.
if he had not pushed his son to court Diana, and if he had paid for more bodyguards nad made sure that Diana was kept safe, he woudl not have lost his son
Personally I'm glad they are ending it before Megan...but the series is amazing and will truly miss it. I hope this series gets all the accolades it rightfully deserves.
I did notice that the vast majority of scenes between Diana and Dodi were just those two, with no one else around, so anything that happened at those times is completely conjecture because both are dead now. There WAS that scene with Diana talking on the phone with a friend (I don't know who that's supposed to be) back home while she was with Dodi saying she was going to dump him and come back home and try to put her life in order. I don't know if that was based on a real phone call and the friend has said that's what Diana said, but even if it was real, it could have just been Diana reassuring her friend and not being completely honest. I confess that since I was 7 at the time, and Diana's death was the first time I even heard of her, I only know about this stuff in retrospect. So I honestly thought there was more to Diana and Dodi's relationship, probably because I unknowingly bought into Muhomed Al-Fayed's propaganda that they were doomed star-crossed lovers. It was a bit of a surprise to find out that it really was just a summer fling that may have just ended right about when it did with them going separate ways if they hadn't died. But history will always remember them dying together, regardless of how serious the relationship actually was. I think, based on what Prince Harry said in Spare, that he might have built up the relationship in his mind retrospectively, too, because he said that he and Willy met Dodi and didn't really care one way or another about him. They were just happy if Mommy was happy. So that was different from the show. Also, he has said in interviews over the years, plus in Spare, that the last phone call was rushed, and they didn't really want to keep talking to her because they wanted to go out and play with their cousins. (Where are the cousins in the show? Why does it never show the OTHER grandchildren of the queen?) The show made it look like they were eager to stay on the phone with her. Also, he mentioned that one of the Spencer aunts brought him the final birthday present, the Playstation, but he says he's only heard about that secondhand. He doesn't actually remember it, himself, probably because he was in a state of shock at the time. But I guess it has been reported from enough sources that it's considered fact. He also mentioned that he and William weren't really that bothered by the walk behind the casket. It's been used as a tragic image over and over in the media, but honestly it upset Charles Spencer and the general public far more than it did the princes. They were bolstered up by the fact that they didn't walk alone. As for Charles, I think that while the exact details are likely incorrect because no one knows besides Charles, himself, I think they did get the spirit of what happened correct. It is generally reported that he stepped up and treated Diana with the proper respect in her death. That he advocated for her to be treated with the respect afforded to the mother of the future king, which is why she was given a royal funeral despite technically no longer being royal. As for that scene of him bawling at the hospital, I haven't heard that before, but there were obviously a lot of witnesses, hospital staff not palace staff, that may have reported that.
This is a dramatization of events not a documentary. It’s a blend of fiction and fact. The writer isn’t in the room for the conversations and actions that occur. For example we know from “Spare” that William wasn’t in the room when Charles told Harry his mom died. We also know that the boys were playing with their cousins when their mother called and they were eager to return to the fun. In Peter Morgan’s movie “The Queen” the focus is on Tony Blair. In “The Crown” Charles is the focus of the attempt to inform the Queen that action must be taken. Same creator, different take. This is drama. It’s also why there’s no need to add an advisory warning. If people can’t tell the difference that’s the real problem.
I liked the portrayal of Charles in this, and think it was probably quite accurate based on his personality and behaviour. But he has always had his haters, who will disagree despite evidence to the contrary. I had also thought that Dodi was a fling to make Hasnat Khan jealous - who she had recently split up with. I recall an interview with her butler who said that she asked if Hasnat had seen the photos, which seemed to me to indicate she was trying to make him jealous. But I find the split with Dodi before the crash harder to believe, in that their body language in the lift seems to be very close, like intimate partners, not people who have just split up. But the show did present a believable story, although we will never know. I also think William going for a long walk indicates at that time he understood the magnitude of what had happened, and was going through the normal grieving process. I felt the villains in the show were Al Fahid, but also the Queen and Prince Philip who came across as cold and lacking in their relationship with Charles, who had a better understanding and more awareness and compassion in that moment than they both did.
I would say that they didn't potray Charle correctly. He is more cold in terms of personality. Like his mom. The only reason he done all that is because he knows that he could use Diana death for reputation.
I watched the first two episodes and started to think would I like my life on the screen for everyone to talk about dissect and discuss. Especially when I am dead and can’t defend myself. Really, so much was made up anyway it is most definitely not the truth. The trouble is people believe what they see. This is Netflix making money ….no matter who they hurt.
I think the whole Dodi relationship was sad. If she did marry him it would have been the same as her marriage to Charles. A man being pushed into marrying someone. Would Dodi have treated her better? I don’t know. I’m sure he would have had affairs, but would he treated her better in between those affairs. Charles was hopelessly in Love with someone else. I think Dodi got bored and had affairs.
I can't fathom how the paparazzo who got the pictures of Diana and Dodi kissing wasn't seen by them. There's nothing else in sight in the water, and there's a scene where you can see flags from the yacht in the foreground and the paparazzo in the background. It looked like his boat was very close. But even if it wasn't close, how could he have escaped notice?? Were they knowingly putting on a show? No one has addressed this yet, that I've noticed.
Polling in the immediate aftermath of Diana’s death was never going to be more than a snapshot of opinion highly influenced by the moment and not reflective of a long term perspective
Seems like it was just a summer romance with Dodi being called on to entertain the princess at the father's insistence. They hadn't been together very long and each had other attachments. Maybe their romance could have developed into something more long term but it seems they were only together for about a month.
I have only watched two episodes of the crown and that was in the very early episodes. In real life if you put words in other peoples mouths that is usually frowned on and in some instances they can be held liable. Because the crown is classed as a drama series it is acceptable, I was watching the Royal tea where two royal reporters were saying that sometimes they have to remind themselves that it is not real, so if they battle as royal correspondents then how are the average people who have no knowledge of the royal family meant to differentiate? I just find that disturbing.
Belated is one thing. 30 years later, c'mon. He needs a counselor who teaches him to forgive and move forward. Thanks for your update. I trust your advice.
I’m not sure that blaming the late Mr. Al Fayed is the best way to say what happened. I truly believe that the happened with Diana’s death is coming from Buckingham Palace.
I can't believe I've only just discovered your wonderful channel. Whilst I am no fan of the Sussex duo,I am a big fan of yours,Dr.Tessa/aka "Devil's Advocate". Always erudite and witty,I love it when you go the scathe, especially with Piers et al. You have them all clutching their pearls Darling! Fabulous entertainment ❣️🇦🇺
Conservatives, of which I am one from the US, seem to hate on you, and I rode that train for a bit, admittedly, but I’ve come to very much enjoy your commentary. What I think people hate on is that you are fair, to a fault I suppose sometimes. I guess I can relate to playing devils advocate and getting hate for it. Cheers Dr. Tessa!
Dear Dr. Dunlop, I am a huge fan of your commentary. It's intellectual, it's honest, concise and most importantly your opinions are based on the facts of history. I often struggle with British commentators ability to white wash and serve propaganda. I remember a commentator stating "The royal family has always been part of exploration" while commenting on the slave trade and colonialism. The sheer scale of the hegemonic hubris. The propaganda jingoism and to insult us further the moderator says nothing to push. Thank you very much indeed for your work!
If there’s a 7th season and possibly 8 who would they have play the queen imelda Staunton is the queen in her old age for me but I wonder who can play an even older queen? We’re talking 70s and 80s
Charles was given too much charity in this season. Him and his mother’s behavior was absolutely disgraceful and no amount of creative liberty will change that perception.
The audience doesn't know Diana's thoughts nor her conversation with Dodi that night. Also, the death probably affected Charles to the point of tears. His mum was cold ,stoic and didn't want Charles to be with Parker-Boles .. Then again, it's like Kennedy Camelot and Kennedy Curse ::: across the pond::: I'd give this final season/chapter a 7. Not true to life but nicely written.. Thankfully, it ends b-4 Meghan slimes the Royals
If they're making Charles super warm and fuzzy in this season, that's only fair. Because they made him absolutely horrible in Season 5. It was absurd what a lizard they made him out to be. I hated that SO MUCH. Very unfair.
There's only 2 years between William and the ginger winger so stop saying that it only affected the winger i think it affected William even more because he nee her
Now, dear Mrs. Dunlop, it becomes very clear to me that you do in fact favour Harry and Meghan. It is just so obvious in this video. The question I ask is simply - why?
@@TessaDunlop I do apologize profoundly for not addressing you in the proper manner. But your insistence puts things yet again into perspective for me. And may I now excuse myself from this platform as I need to go and have a reassuring look at my very own academic titles and accolades which I never brag about anyway.
Я уже готова делать подкаст потому что хороший сезон шестой я так поняла что будет связано с этими с папарацци разные страны мира как я поняла я так поняла газета будут показывать где что где как она без уже без принца Чарльза нет ну с принцем Чарльзом но всё-таки она будет ему изменять в разные моменты вот момента жизни измена будет у неё потому что я там показывают даже что она уже на лодке плывёт с кем-то и там будет интересно сама история вот хотелось бы конечно узнать как это можно сделать как это можно рассказать и где какой мост попасть потому что это нужно 6 сезон рассказать это самое интересный сезон я так думаю что много интересного можно
Thank you Tessa. In reality the Royals were truly nasty to Diana. The crown is certainly dialed it back because they were absolutely vicious towards Diana. Neither the queen nor Charles could handle her popularity and worse still her love for the people and the people's love for her. It just drove them raging mad and that includes all of them, including Anne and Camilla.
They haven't dialed it back. They treated Meghan the same way, worse actually. All was great until she outshone Kate, unintentionally, and then it was war. H&M were getting better press than Charles/Camilla and Will/Kate and so they literally had them run out of town.
Because people just never get excited about them the way they did/do Diana, Harry or Meghan and they feel as the King and Heir, they should get the most positive press and people should want to see THEM most. It's just never been the case though. They are so uninteresting, unrelatable, and standoffish that people just don't care about them. Diana and H&M actually care about the people, interact with them genuinely, and try to make things better FOR the people. And they were vilified and lied about for it. I just can't forgive that. The monarchy is dead to me now.@@Singhramdas
Watching The Crown is like reading a supermarket tabloid. Some truth in there, but not enough to justify its existence. I especially hate this season. Imelda Staunton only has one facial expression. Stiff and crabby. Elizabeth Debicki 's portrayal of Diana is all eye makeup, a couple well worn facial expressions and posture . Her acting is probably OK but it's hard to get past the cartoon Diana they turned her into. And who is it that thinks William is incapable of standing up straight?? Yes he walked with his head down behind Diana's coffin. But before that, he had been hunched over for most of the season. So the poignancy of William's lowered head during the funeral procession was totally gone. Thrown away by how overused that posture was in all that came before. The only two actors well suited to their roles are Leslie Manville (love her!) and Claudia Harrison. Perfect show to hate watch. 😂
Tessa, am surprised that you went to this low to also jump into the bandwagon to patronise this tragic tale even after all these years? This series is of bad taste. It kept bringing back those painful moments. Netflix is just milking and patronising Diana even after her death.
The worst was that Diana was genuinely loved across the world not just Britain. This just drove the queen and Charles completely mad and no matter what she did, she would never be part of the family in any way shape or form. It is quite likely they were happy at Diana's death.
@@Charlee88184 selfish, self centered, egotistical, insure, envious.... If you can see that Charles and the Queen are all of these, you can understand that they're celebrating her death Plus never underestimate the power of revenge as Diana really hurt them too.
Charles is just as complicit in Diana's death as Fayed. He was thrilled she was gone because there wasn't a chance he could marry Camilla while his former wife was still living. That was the problem w/ Margaret. Her lover's former wife was still alive, so in the eyes of the church, he was still married. Diana dying meant Charles was a 'widower' so he could marry again. No way was he so upset about her death except in that he knew he'd be feeling the heat for a long while, as would Camilla. But for him, it solved most of his problems. Charles has ALWAYS been jealous of anyone who took the spotlight away from him, and William has been too. Both were happy to make up stories about H&M (and Diana before) and get them run out of town fearing for their lives. As always though, and as with Diana, getting rid of them never fixed their problem, just made it worse. It Martyred them instead. The press STILL highlighted anything they did over anything Charles, WIlliam or Kate did or do. They will always outshine them whether they like it or not. Instead of being jealous and trying to vilify them, they should have used them to further solidify the future of the monarchy with all the great press they could have garnered for them and all the hard work they would have done for the Crown. But no, jealousy made them weak and now all that's left is the boring royals nobody wants to hear about. They never do anything worthwhile to the world. They don't care about the actual people like Diana and H&M did. They cut off the best thing they had going for them. Now all they have is ribbon cuttings no one watches and parades in their own honor that costs the people millions. They are just not good people.
He was very upset at her death. Don't make him so hateful when he wasn't. Neither of them were perfect and they never should have been married. Don't let your prejudice get in the way of the truth.
Funny how as usual, in All Western Movies? the Middle Eastern Man or the Indian Man or the Chinese Man is always the bad guy and ofcos the white guy is the victim and the good one with the heart who save the day. funny enuf, charles is the hero and playng the good guy role ? 😂 Charles story line is pure fiction. If only real life is so black n white, all bad against all good guys. but not surpising this came from Britain. 😂 Either way,one man and one family sure did benefit from No Diana. Lot of complication went out of the air just like dat.
I love it so far but I don’t care for the way they eased up on Charles as we all know he was very unlikeable even in America we still don’t care for either him or his wife. It was even said that the Queen referred to her as “That wicked woman” and a lot of us don’t blame her. Even if they did get along later in life but with this timeline we know the Queen was not for it or her being around her. I think they are going the extra mile to make those two more likable but as you could see Camilla didn’t sheared one tear when Diana death was announced she only asked about the boys. Don’t know what is true to that part as a lot of this happened way before my time as I was a child when Diana passed. All my life, my parents & grandparents have all said they never cared for the Royal family especially after the situation with Diana. Some even refused to believe the RF didn’t have anything to do with her death so Charles could remarry till this day I just wish that they had stayed true to it as the media should never buckle because Charles is King now. This show is world wide & he is not our King therefore we don’t go by those standards of not disrespecting him. Anywho great commentary, and outlook on the show. I’m always curious to know how Brits feel about Charles still being able to marry her & still becoming their King. Though I agree he should have been able to marry her but because he lied to his people about a fake marriage, never apologized as well he shouldn’t have been able to do both. His mother had to sacrifice at 25 years old yet Charles didn’t want to bend or fold for the crown & still got it. God bless the queen, she is truly missed & did a great job for her nation. Thanks for the review again❤
Truth is better than fiction. The actress that plays Diana is amazing.
If you liked her in the Crown, you’ll love her in Hugh Laurie’s “The Night Manager”. It’s a fantastic show.
She is Elizabeth Debicki
@@pegaga1618 Thank you.
@@lroche2164 I will check that out. Thanks.
She was also in “the great gatsby” and was fabulous in it!!!
Anyone who believes the content of Spare cannot be completely sane.
do you mean Harry is lying in it?
If you don’t want to believe that is ok with me. However, the truth is beginning to come out.
Watching the last season I can say poor Diana looked like a puppet who was manipulated by Dodi (who was under his dad's pressure to do so). In fact Diana could have avoided the fatal car crash as she didn't even want to be in Paris on that day. Dodi insisted they have to stop in Paris. They indeed visited the castle where that previous king and American wife lived before her death.
She was trapped to be somewhere she didn't want to. After Crown episodes I blame her death on Fayed family.
And let's be honest that relationship (potential marriage)with Dodi would have been a disaster for her as Fayed family intention was only to get into British aristocrats circle and they didn't care about Diana as private person, they just wanted to use her. On the internet I found that Dodi used drugs which wasn't even pictured in Crown. What a disaster. Poor Diana 😒😒
Well there were a couple scenes of Dodi snorting cocaine…
I've blamed this on the Fayeds since it happened.... I've always said Diana left an Al Fayed hotel in a Fayed car, with a Fayed bodyguard while sitting next to a Fayed! And that last-minute decision to leave the Ritz . It didn't take a psychic to see the end results. 😢
Yes the way Dodi was controlled by his father reminded me of Charles being controlled by his mother. Diana was in the same type of relationship. All she wanted was a protector.
I remember those days. From the beginning of the courtship until her shocking death it was full-on intense media coverage.
Regarding Mohammad Al-Fayed imo he viewed a relationship between Dodi and Diana as his way to finally enter the English aristocracy. The romance with Dodi appeared to be a summer fling. Diana had just broken-up with the man she loved and wanted to marry, surgeon Hasnat Khan, and Dodi was a convenient way to make him jealous. Diana deserved much better than she received from the men in her life. May she RIP.
She herself choosed the men and some of them were married or in a relationship. So what did she deserved from them?
@@Yo19724dodi was engaged but al fayed and diana had to put their noses where they shouldn’t.
@@Yo19724 I wasn’t referring to the married men. I’m referring to her husband Charles, her lover James Hewitt and the man she wanted to marry surgeon Hasnat Khan. Dodi was just a summer fling.
Maybe Diana could have made better choices as an empowered, free, powerful, strong, independent, divorced🙄🙄🙄 woman who never grew up.🙄🙄
Mahamed fayed he is the one orchestrated that like show he always wanted because of him we lost her plus Diana been used by royal family and alfayed
I agree, very accurate observation, especially on the fact that the series really panders to Charles, portraying him first as an ambitious workaholic (season 5), then as as an empathetic voice of reason (season 6) - as we know from history, he was neither. Which brings me to the baddies of the series, where Mohamed AlFayed was really vilified. He didn’t have as much control over Dodi as the series made you think and Dodi was more of a fun rich spoiled kid which is what attracted the immature Diana to him in the first place - in real life he was definitely not the angry, brooding character that the series portrayed him as. I’m going to play devil’s advocate here because both Mohamed Al Fayed and Prince Charles have massive gains from Diana’s death and how they handled it. Let’s start with Al Fayed. He immediately called the accident an assasination, a murder, by the royal family who wanted Diana out of the headlines because she was eclipsing Charles, even after the divorce. (To be honest, a street light could outshine Charles, the man is a charisma black hole). Regardless, if we’re playing devil’s advocate, we could say that maybe Al Fayed was trying to redirect blame somewhere else after his security guys failed at protecting Diana, who was way too high profile for them to ever deal with and they just didn’t know how to handle the situation. Now let’s move on to Charles. Still playing devil’s advocate. He was in the middle of a campaign to bring out and legitimize Camilla. When Diana suddenly died an opportunity presented itself. I’m sure that Mark Bolland advised him, against the Queen’s wishes, to have Diana buried with all the honors of a royal. In the public’s mind he would look more like a widower and less as a divorce, since it was so fresh, and people would be more sympathetic to him moving on and marrying Camilla. Just something to think about.
I think he felt massively guilty and he did truly grieve. She was the mother of his children. He is known to be a sensitive man.
Love your commentary! I think Prince William has been completely forgotten admist the H&M drama that yes, indeed, he also lost his mother. Hello.
I really feel for William. I could relate as someone who struggled with a mother’s death too. For me, the most poignant scene was him wandering outside. Imagine him processing his mom’s death on it’s own for that 14hrs in solitude? It’s like dying and coming back to life.
I don’t feel for him. They portrayed him as calice, I thought. This behavior has continued to the current day.
@@healthfitnesswithsandra of course his mother died. He was at the age when he understands death. I think he is the most sensitive of them all. He processed and managed well.
@@marsohlala do you think he cared? I don’t.
@@healthfitnesswithsandra why wouldn he?
Why specifically?
I binged watched the whole six episodes and loved it. I found it tastefully done and even learned a few things such as Mohammed El Fayad being the puppet master behind the budding relationship. I also appreciated how Dodi was portrayed insofar as the media, at that time, portrayed him as being as sleazy as his father. Although in the series, he was portrayed as weak and a daddy’s boy, he also came across as kind and sweet. The overall acting was superb. Will definitely watch again.
There were only four episodes released as of now.
The photographer who took the pictures of D&D refuted the theory that M.Alfayed tipped him off. He is an Italian photographer who noted that he goes to Sardinia every year to take photos of celebs. Pls fact check esp that you are talking about fact vs.fiction in the series.
I think they really tried to show Charles in a better light this season… maybe because he’s king now? …I think they were far too generous to him, I can’t see him being that compassionate
Read 'The Day Diana Died'; Charles was extremely upset over Diana's death and did cry at the hospital when he claimed the body.
@@laurellane1721 he was crying of happiness
@@CristianGonzalez-yg5em Maybe you need to do some reading yourself.
dont be stupid. He would have been a monster if he had reacted like htat@@CristianGonzalez-yg5em
No way Diana was “in love” with Dodi maybe in like but that’s all
Definitely made me feel for William. He has led for none of it, and although their was a level of codependency that was unhealthy between Diana and William. William knew love and care in a way that was stripped from him at only 15 years old. His years after and the growing anger he dealt with is something I’m so glad they explored.
I love the ghost, it reminds you that this is a work of fiction and not a real story.
yes!
What do you mean, ‘the bereaved father as he cast himself’. He ‘was’ a bereaved father. Al Fayed never got over Dodi’s death. Poor man. He may have played with the newspapers, but so did Diana etc. I do not think his grief was extreme, as parents who lose their children commonly show such extreme grief. Poor man does not need this in death.
if he had not pushed his son to court Diana, and if he had paid for more bodyguards nad made sure that Diana was kept safe, he woudl not have lost his son
Personally I'm glad they are ending it before Megan...but the series is amazing and will truly miss it. I hope this series gets all the accolades it rightfully deserves.
Same!
If they cover Meghan, the backlash for the racism of the British Media would be too much to handle.
I did notice that the vast majority of scenes between Diana and Dodi were just those two, with no one else around, so anything that happened at those times is completely conjecture because both are dead now. There WAS that scene with Diana talking on the phone with a friend (I don't know who that's supposed to be) back home while she was with Dodi saying she was going to dump him and come back home and try to put her life in order. I don't know if that was based on a real phone call and the friend has said that's what Diana said, but even if it was real, it could have just been Diana reassuring her friend and not being completely honest. I confess that since I was 7 at the time, and Diana's death was the first time I even heard of her, I only know about this stuff in retrospect. So I honestly thought there was more to Diana and Dodi's relationship, probably because I unknowingly bought into Muhomed Al-Fayed's propaganda that they were doomed star-crossed lovers. It was a bit of a surprise to find out that it really was just a summer fling that may have just ended right about when it did with them going separate ways if they hadn't died. But history will always remember them dying together, regardless of how serious the relationship actually was.
I think, based on what Prince Harry said in Spare, that he might have built up the relationship in his mind retrospectively, too, because he said that he and Willy met Dodi and didn't really care one way or another about him. They were just happy if Mommy was happy. So that was different from the show. Also, he has said in interviews over the years, plus in Spare, that the last phone call was rushed, and they didn't really want to keep talking to her because they wanted to go out and play with their cousins. (Where are the cousins in the show? Why does it never show the OTHER grandchildren of the queen?) The show made it look like they were eager to stay on the phone with her. Also, he mentioned that one of the Spencer aunts brought him the final birthday present, the Playstation, but he says he's only heard about that secondhand. He doesn't actually remember it, himself, probably because he was in a state of shock at the time. But I guess it has been reported from enough sources that it's considered fact. He also mentioned that he and William weren't really that bothered by the walk behind the casket. It's been used as a tragic image over and over in the media, but honestly it upset Charles Spencer and the general public far more than it did the princes. They were bolstered up by the fact that they didn't walk alone.
As for Charles, I think that while the exact details are likely incorrect because no one knows besides Charles, himself, I think they did get the spirit of what happened correct. It is generally reported that he stepped up and treated Diana with the proper respect in her death. That he advocated for her to be treated with the respect afforded to the mother of the future king, which is why she was given a royal funeral despite technically no longer being royal. As for that scene of him bawling at the hospital, I haven't heard that before, but there were obviously a lot of witnesses, hospital staff not palace staff, that may have reported that.
was it a friend or was it a therapist?
@@larryyxz177it was a therapist she appeared in the crown season 5 in the episode “Couple 31”
This is a dramatization of events not a documentary. It’s a blend of fiction and fact. The writer isn’t in the room for the conversations and actions that occur. For example we know from “Spare” that William wasn’t in the room when Charles told Harry his mom died. We also know that the boys were playing with their cousins when their mother called and they were eager to return to the fun. In Peter Morgan’s movie “The Queen” the focus is on Tony Blair. In “The Crown” Charles is the focus of the attempt to inform the Queen that action must be taken. Same creator, different take. This is drama. It’s also why there’s no need to add an advisory warning. If people can’t tell the difference that’s the real problem.
I liked the portrayal of Charles in this, and think it was probably quite accurate based on his personality and behaviour. But he has always had his haters, who will disagree despite evidence to the contrary. I had also thought that Dodi was a fling to make Hasnat Khan jealous - who she had recently split up with. I recall an interview with her butler who said that she asked if Hasnat had seen the photos, which seemed to me to indicate she was trying to make him jealous. But I find the split with Dodi before the crash harder to believe, in that their body language in the lift seems to be very close, like intimate partners, not people who have just split up. But the show did present a believable story, although we will never know. I also think William going for a long walk indicates at that time he understood the magnitude of what had happened, and was going through the normal grieving process. I felt the villains in the show were Al Fahid, but also the Queen and Prince Philip who came across as cold and lacking in their relationship with Charles, who had a better understanding and more awareness and compassion in that moment than they both did.
I would say that they didn't potray Charle correctly. He is more cold in terms of personality. Like his mom.
The only reason he done all that is because he knows that he could use Diana death for reputation.
not mkaing much sense@@nntflow7058
I watched the first two episodes and started to think would I like my life on the screen for everyone to talk about dissect and discuss. Especially when I am dead and can’t defend myself. Really, so much was made up anyway it is most definitely not the truth. The trouble is people believe what they see. This is Netflix making money ….no matter who they hurt.
I thought the relationship between Diana and Dodi was tepid at best. No big love affair
I would be amazed if they did a 7th season focused on Harry & Megan. It would be a minefield to write, to film, to cast - OH MY GOD no!
I think the whole Dodi relationship was sad. If she did marry him it would have been the same as her marriage to Charles. A man being pushed into marrying someone. Would Dodi have treated her better? I don’t know. I’m sure he would have had affairs, but would he treated her better in between those affairs. Charles was hopelessly in Love with someone else. I think Dodi got bored and had affairs.
I can't fathom how the paparazzo who got the pictures of Diana and Dodi kissing wasn't seen by them. There's nothing else in sight in the water, and there's a scene where you can see flags from the yacht in the foreground and the paparazzo in the background. It looked like his boat was very close. But even if it wasn't close, how could he have escaped notice?? Were they knowingly putting on a show? No one has addressed this yet, that I've noticed.
Polling in the immediate aftermath of Diana’s death was never going to be more than a snapshot of opinion highly influenced by the moment and not reflective of a long term perspective
Seems like it was just a summer romance with Dodi being called on to entertain the princess at the father's insistence. They hadn't been together very long and each had other attachments. Maybe their romance could have developed into something more long term but it seems they were only together for about a month.
I have only watched two episodes of the crown and that was in the very early episodes. In real life if you put words in other peoples mouths that is usually frowned on and in some instances they can be held liable. Because the crown is classed as a drama series it is acceptable, I was watching the Royal tea where two royal reporters were saying that sometimes they have to remind themselves that it is not real, so if they battle as royal correspondents then how are the average people who have no knowledge of the royal family meant to differentiate? I just find that disturbing.
So essentially this is propaganda in favour of the royal family. And to get someone a knighthood.
Belated is one thing. 30 years later, c'mon. He needs a counselor who teaches him to forgive and move forward. Thanks for your update. I trust your advice.
I’m not sure that blaming the late Mr. Al Fayed is the best way to say what happened. I truly believe that the happened with Diana’s death is coming from Buckingham Palace.
I admire the diptych icons you have in the back
Thank you Dr Dunlop, enjoyed your review of the first part of Season 6. It was informative and unbiased :)
I can't believe I've only just discovered your wonderful channel.
Whilst I am no fan of the Sussex duo,I am a big fan of yours,Dr.Tessa/aka "Devil's Advocate".
Always erudite and witty,I love it when you go the scathe, especially with Piers et al.
You have them all clutching their pearls Darling!
Fabulous entertainment ❣️🇦🇺
I've only just started making my own material which is why you've only just found me! more when I get a minute!! xxx
Conservatives, of which I am one from the US, seem to hate on you, and I rode that train for a bit, admittedly, but I’ve come to very much enjoy your commentary. What I think people hate on is that you are fair, to a fault I suppose sometimes. I guess I can relate to playing devils advocate and getting hate for it. Cheers Dr. Tessa!
I think the actress that plays the role of Camilla is way cuter than the real one
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I feel everything was accurate except the storyline 😂
Dear Dr. Dunlop, I am a huge fan of your commentary. It's intellectual, it's honest, concise and most importantly your opinions are based on the facts of history. I often struggle with British commentators ability to white wash and serve propaganda. I remember a commentator stating "The royal family has always been part of exploration" while commenting on the slave trade and colonialism. The sheer scale of the hegemonic hubris. The propaganda jingoism and to insult us further the moderator says nothing to push.
Thank you very much indeed for your work!
If there’s a 7th season and possibly 8 who would they have play the queen imelda Staunton is the queen in her old age for me but I wonder who can play an even older queen? We’re talking 70s and 80s
Charles was given too much charity in this season. Him and his mother’s behavior was absolutely disgraceful and no amount of creative liberty will change that perception.
Thank you, really enjoyed your summary.
Nobody could ever convince me Charles cried that much over Diana’s death 🤞🏽
The audience doesn't know Diana's thoughts nor her conversation with Dodi that night. Also, the death probably affected Charles to the point of tears. His mum was cold ,stoic and didn't want Charles to be with Parker-Boles .. Then again, it's like Kennedy Camelot and Kennedy Curse ::: across the pond::: I'd give this final season/chapter a 7. Not true to life but nicely written.. Thankfully, it ends b-4 Meghan slimes the Royals
I always felt like Dodi was in way over his head.
Diana should have had royal protection.
she coudl have had protection officers but she stopped using them in 1993.
@@glen7318 untrue she was denied royal protection. Check the facts
no, she was not denied the right to security officers, She chose in 1993 to give up having them. @@marleneg7794
If they're making Charles super warm and fuzzy in this season, that's only fair. Because they made him absolutely horrible in Season 5. It was absurd what a lizard they made him out to be. I hated that SO MUCH. Very unfair.
Nope. Not really. Peter Morgan dramatized Charles’ marital failings he didn’t invent them. Sadly those failings did exist.
There's only 2 years between William and the ginger winger so stop saying that it only affected the winger i think it affected William even more because he nee her
Now, dear Mrs. Dunlop, it becomes very clear to me that you do in fact favour Harry and Meghan. It is just so obvious in this video. The question I ask is simply - why?
It’s Dr! 😉
@@TessaDunlop I do apologize profoundly for not addressing you in the proper manner. But your insistence puts things yet again into perspective for me. And may I now excuse myself from this platform as I need to go and have a reassuring look at my very own academic titles and accolades which I never brag about anyway.
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The best is yet to come ❤️💜❤️🕊️🙏🌎
I was disappointed that they wasted four entire episodes on it. Now they've left themselves 6 episodes to cover 25 years.
Unpopular opinion ! What if it was dodi that created the accident bc Diana rejected him and he didn’t want to face his dad with the news?
Elizabeth and her hipocritical speech ,she made PDiana impossible.
Lovabe when you look at the wolf
If Markle's character shows up in The Crown I will not watch it.
Re, the spare...we all know now that it was a bunch of lies spewed by the traitor himself...
Miss Tessa, how old are you? 87? 90?
Dr tessa I love you
I’m glad that Harry’s wife is not in the crown. Not worthy.
But wait…..there’s more!
The Crown that started so good would be ruined like Game of Thrones if it ended with the harkles in it.
Indeed. The Crown is not worthy of Meghan. They were even worse to her than they were to Diana.
It was terrible melancholy fiction. Embarrassingly inaccurate. Biased for the Charles in laughable ways. The ghost of Diana.😂
Я уже готова делать подкаст потому что хороший сезон шестой я так поняла что будет связано с этими с папарацци разные страны мира как я поняла я так поняла газета будут показывать где что где как она без уже без принца Чарльза нет ну с принцем Чарльзом но всё-таки она будет ему изменять в разные моменты вот момента жизни измена будет у неё потому что я там показывают даже что она уже на лодке плывёт с кем-то и там будет интересно сама история вот хотелось бы конечно узнать как это можно сделать как это можно рассказать и где какой мост попасть потому что это нужно 6 сезон рассказать это самое интересный сезон я так думаю что много интересного можно
Thank you Tessa. In reality the Royals were truly nasty to Diana. The crown is certainly dialed it back because they were absolutely vicious towards Diana.
Neither the queen nor Charles could handle her popularity and worse still her love for the people and the people's love for her. It just drove them raging mad and that includes all of them, including Anne and Camilla.
And how do you know
You are assuming a lot. Nobody knows. Charles and Diana were actually at friendly terms in 1997.
They haven't dialed it back. They treated Meghan the same way, worse actually. All was great until she outshone Kate, unintentionally, and then it was war. H&M were getting better press than Charles/Camilla and Will/Kate and so they literally had them run out of town.
@@imscanon yeah, it's really heart breaking, I don't know why they're so insecure?
Because people just never get excited about them the way they did/do Diana, Harry or Meghan and they feel as the King and Heir, they should get the most positive press and people should want to see THEM most. It's just never been the case though. They are so uninteresting, unrelatable, and standoffish that people just don't care about them. Diana and H&M actually care about the people, interact with them genuinely, and try to make things better FOR the people. And they were vilified and lied about for it. I just can't forgive that. The monarchy is dead to me now.@@Singhramdas
As usual, Tessa is flying the anti-royal flag.
Ghastly isn’t she.
Yep
What are you are doctor of?
Of history
Watching The Crown is like reading a supermarket tabloid. Some truth in there, but not enough to justify its existence. I especially hate this season. Imelda Staunton only has one facial expression. Stiff and crabby. Elizabeth Debicki 's portrayal of Diana is all eye makeup, a couple well worn facial expressions and posture . Her acting is probably OK but it's hard to get past the cartoon Diana they turned her into. And who is it that thinks William is incapable of standing up straight?? Yes he walked with his head down behind Diana's coffin. But before that, he had been hunched over for most of the season. So the poignancy of William's lowered head during the funeral procession was totally gone. Thrown away by how overused that posture was in all that came before. The only two actors well suited to their roles are Leslie Manville (love her!) and Claudia Harrison. Perfect show to hate watch. 😂
I really hope there is no Meghan….. I won’t watch. We know it won’t be very honest since they work for Netflix too.
This season is not very good. Slow and not a lot of dialogue. It is turning out to be a white lotus 😂
The white lotus was amazing. Season 2 is better than season 1.
Prince Philip was so insensitive after her death
Tessa, am surprised that you went to this low to also jump into the bandwagon to patronise this tragic tale even after all these years? This series is of bad taste. It kept bringing back those painful moments. Netflix is just milking and patronising Diana even after her death.
It sure was the Charles's advantage that she died
quite the opposite. Diana's death sanctified her for a time and made Charles dial back his campaingn to marry Camilla
I think this episode 6 made just to please Charles it’s horrible
The worst was that Diana was genuinely loved across the world not just Britain. This just drove the queen and Charles completely mad and no matter what she did, she would never be part of the family in any way shape or form.
It is quite likely they were happy at Diana's death.
I kind of wondered if Charles was really the one who wanted to make her funeral public. That is how they depicted him in the last episode.
@@Charlee88184 selfish, self centered, egotistical, insure, envious.... If you can see that Charles and the Queen are all of these, you can understand that they're celebrating her death
Plus never underestimate the power of revenge as Diana really hurt them too.
Stupid comment
what sort of weird people think this? That a man would be thrilled by his ex wifes' death?
Slaat nergens op fantasie over de top.
Charles is just as complicit in Diana's death as Fayed. He was thrilled she was gone because there wasn't a chance he could marry Camilla while his former wife was still living. That was the problem w/ Margaret. Her lover's former wife was still alive, so in the eyes of the church, he was still married. Diana dying meant Charles was a 'widower' so he could marry again. No way was he so upset about her death except in that he knew he'd be feeling the heat for a long while, as would Camilla. But for him, it solved most of his problems. Charles has ALWAYS been jealous of anyone who took the spotlight away from him, and William has been too. Both were happy to make up stories about H&M (and Diana before) and get them run out of town fearing for their lives. As always though, and as with Diana, getting rid of them never fixed their problem, just made it worse. It Martyred them instead. The press STILL highlighted anything they did over anything Charles, WIlliam or Kate did or do. They will always outshine them whether they like it or not. Instead of being jealous and trying to vilify them, they should have used them to further solidify the future of the monarchy with all the great press they could have garnered for them and all the hard work they would have done for the Crown. But no, jealousy made them weak and now all that's left is the boring royals nobody wants to hear about. They never do anything worthwhile to the world. They don't care about the actual people like Diana and H&M did. They cut off the best thing they had going for them. Now all they have is ribbon cuttings no one watches and parades in their own honor that costs the people millions. They are just not good people.
He was very upset at her death. Don't make him so hateful when he wasn't. Neither of them were perfect and they never should have been married. Don't let your prejudice get in the way of the truth.
Funny how as usual, in All Western Movies? the Middle Eastern Man or the Indian Man or the Chinese Man is always the bad guy and ofcos the white guy is the victim and the good one with the heart who save the day. funny enuf, charles is the hero and playng the good guy role ? 😂 Charles story line is pure fiction. If only real life is so black n white, all bad against all good guys.
but not surpising this came from Britain. 😂
Either way,one man and one family sure did benefit from No Diana. Lot of complication went out of the air just like dat.
I love it so far but I don’t care for the way they eased up on Charles as we all know he was very unlikeable even in America we still don’t care for either him or his wife.
It was even said that the Queen referred to her as “That wicked woman” and a lot of us don’t blame her. Even if they did get along later in life but with this timeline we know the Queen was not for it or her being around her.
I think they are going the extra mile to make those two more likable but as you could see Camilla didn’t sheared one tear when Diana death was announced she only asked about the boys.
Don’t know what is true to that part as a lot of this happened way before my time as I was a child when Diana passed.
All my life, my parents & grandparents have all said they never cared for the Royal family especially after the situation with Diana.
Some even refused to believe the RF didn’t have anything to do with her death so Charles could remarry till this day
I just wish that they had stayed true to it as the media should never buckle because Charles is King now.
This show is world wide & he is not our King therefore we don’t go by those standards of not disrespecting him.
Anywho great commentary, and outlook on the show. I’m always curious to know how Brits feel about Charles still being able to marry her & still becoming their King.
Though I agree he should have been able to marry her but because he lied to his people about a fake marriage, never apologized as well he shouldn’t have been able to do both.
His mother had to sacrifice at 25 years old yet Charles didn’t want to bend or fold for the crown & still got it.
God bless the queen, she is truly missed & did a great job for her nation.
Thanks for the review again❤
There’s nothing fiction about the crown. It’s history based on true life story.