Fun Fact: Fire Command is the Battalion Chief of the Phoenix Fire Department. Battalion 19 is the one with Fire Command for Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport.
Great job by pilots flying the aircraft first and communicating last. Fantastic job by controllers of reading the room and understanding what was seriously going on behind the scenes. Intuition was excellent
Your best friend when you need help. Not so much when you are a jerk to them. "let me know when you can take down a number" must be the most terrifying response you can get from them.
Perhaps those frequency changes were done to give the plane a frequency set aside for these situations. It lets the tower and the emergency aircraft communicate with a lower probability of being stepped on or blocked.
KPHX's Top Dawg Controller... AGAIN!!! Frontier: "Standby." ATC: Something isn't right, I need to listen and wait so I can understand how we can provide the service that Frontier needs. This is the formula to success! FYI, the controller is also an excellent pilot!
I just looked in my logbook. I have flown N378FR. Frontier pilots are the best in the industry. They have to do their jobs with little to know support from the company. It’s a miserable operation but amazing crews.
@@Gimblenut9also how do you know they were overweight for landing? I have done PHX - DEN many times and typically we would not be overweight if we had to make an immediate return to the field.
@@Gimblenut9I talked to the pilots. They are PHX Based and so an I. They had a fire indication onboard. Whether it was an actual fire has to be determined but they had the indication and they followed the correct procedure. I don’t know what you are going on about.
@@Gimblenut9 Um, perhaps you need to be reminded that they had an engine fire indication from the ECAM. Further confirmation of anything occurs on the ground. Continuing the flight was not an option.
@cblount2204 as someone who is a part 121 pilot for the past 12 years now. I'll just say stick to the MX side and leave the flying to us. If there's a fire indiction, the bottle is going off regardless.
In order to reduce the load on the tower from general information about the airport and weather, this information is broadcast by automatic announcement (spoken) on a separate frequency. Each announcement is assigned a letter as a “version number”. If the weather changes, for example, a new announcement is recorded and assigned the next letter. To ensure that the pilot has only heard the correct announcement, the letter is exchanged/verified again before landing. Better safe than sorry 🙂
Do you really need that many frequency changes? I counted 6 changes. I would say one frequency for the entire time for the emergency aircraft. Tower and emergency vehicles can dial into that frequency. Avoids stressing pilots unnecessary, and less opportunities to loose communication.
The pilot would have said NO if it was a problem. And if you noticed they did not bother to reply until they were ready. Besides, it's probably best the pilot works with the ATC that controls the airspace.
There were planes that made it across an ocean with one engine. Airlines. It was very professional and if the plane can handle it is better for the passengers and people on the ground. The plane can glide to safety in event of 2 engine failure and it gives the pilots more space to get their bearings. Pilots train for this situation and they train to gain altitude in this event. Maybe not saying stuff you don't knowabout would help. Research at least. That was only 4900 feet off the ground. If anything it could have been higher. Textbook operations on this. Clear atc and one engine fire is an emergency but not life threatening in these planes.
Those guys are the best traffic controllers I’ve ever heard
I liked the first approach controller. Really clear and gave space for the pilots to work.
Great CRM by the crew and nice comms by all involved, that's how it's done
The crew of this flight really did an excellent job staying calm and giving out information in detail and clearly to the ATC.
Except for the failure to declare an emergency in a timely manner.
@@RckyMtneer🙄
While not formally declared as soon as they said there was an engine fire ATC automatically assumed it's an emergency and would send the alert.
@@ace00007 While in many cases it's apparent to the controller, it's still best practice to just call it.
Fun Fact: Fire Command is the Battalion Chief of the Phoenix Fire Department. Battalion 19 is the one with Fire Command for Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport.
Great job by pilots flying the aircraft first and communicating last. Fantastic job by controllers of reading the room and understanding what was seriously going on behind the scenes. Intuition was excellent
I know it’s standard but still wanna shout out ATC. Another good job by them helping get them down!
Your best friend when you need help. Not so much when you are a jerk to them. "let me know when you can take down a number" must be the most terrifying response you can get from them.
Clear and professional all the way around.
Perhaps those frequency changes were done to give the plane a frequency set aside for these situations. It lets the tower and the emergency aircraft communicate with a lower probability of being stepped on or blocked.
Wow! ATC only asked ONCE for fuel/souls on board🤣
Miracles do happen
They made up for it with 10 freq changes though
I'm buying my lotto ticket rn!
Good job!
2:50 “180 fuel on b-“ 😂😂
17000 souls on board 😂
@@CapnT87 Must be a new type of low-cost-economy
That is the only thing you took from the video. SMH
Well done by all. PHX ATC is a training center for new controllers, so they have great experience.
KPHX's Top Dawg Controller... AGAIN!!! Frontier: "Standby." ATC: Something isn't right, I need to listen and wait so I can understand how we can provide the service that Frontier needs. This is the formula to success! FYI, the controller is also an excellent pilot!
I just looked in my logbook. I have flown N378FR. Frontier pilots are the best in the industry. They have to do their jobs with little to know support from the company. It’s a miserable operation but amazing crews.
@@Gimblenut9 How do you know anything about what happened?
@@Gimblenut9also how do you know they were overweight for landing? I have done PHX - DEN many times and typically we would not be overweight if we had to make an immediate return to the field.
@@Gimblenut9I talked to the pilots. They are PHX Based and so an I. They had a fire indication onboard. Whether it was an actual fire has to be determined but they had the indication and they followed the correct procedure. I don’t know what you are going on about.
@@Gimblenut9 Um, perhaps you need to be reminded that they had an engine fire indication from the ECAM. Further confirmation of anything occurs on the ground. Continuing the flight was not an option.
@cblount2204 as someone who is a part 121 pilot for the past 12 years now. I'll just say stick to the MX side and leave the flying to us. If there's a fire indiction, the bottle is going off regardless.
Don't Frontier airlines get their mechanic training at united. :)
what engine type?
Leap 1A
What do the mean by information is Uniform?
ATIS information identifier
In order to reduce the load on the tower from general information about the airport and weather, this information is broadcast by automatic announcement (spoken) on a separate frequency. Each announcement is assigned a letter as a “version number”. If the weather changes, for example, a new announcement is recorded and assigned the next letter.
To ensure that the pilot has only heard the correct announcement, the letter is exchanged/verified again before landing.
Better safe than sorry 🙂
Do you really need that many frequency changes? I counted 6 changes. I would say one frequency for the entire time for the emergency aircraft. Tower and emergency vehicles can dial into that frequency. Avoids stressing pilots unnecessary, and less opportunities to loose communication.
ATC should limit contact in an emergency
If it's a Bus, it's not for us... 😂
"If its a boeing, not going" guess your stuck with CRJs
Making them accomplish a frequency change and giving a climb with an engine fire? No, not the best controlling I’ve heard.
The pilot would have said NO if it was a problem. And if you noticed they did not bother to reply until they were ready. Besides, it's probably best the pilot works with the ATC that controls the airspace.
There is terrain in that area.
@@gregheyheyheyyeah, better to not fly into a mountain
There were planes that made it across an ocean with one engine. Airlines. It was very professional and if the plane can handle it is better for the passengers and people on the ground. The plane can glide to safety in event of 2 engine failure and it gives the pilots more space to get their bearings. Pilots train for this situation and they train to gain altitude in this event. Maybe not saying stuff you don't knowabout would help. Research at least. That was only 4900 feet off the ground. If anything it could have been higher. Textbook operations on this. Clear atc and one engine fire is an emergency but not life threatening in these planes.