I did this the other day... And forget I puppeted Kuwait for some reason...and released Albania and Croatia. About 1000pp later I finally formed imperium romanum. Mussolini incompetence levels were reached.
@Rodrigo Ribeiro pretty sure they meant in terms of in-game years. most roman empire runs usually dont end in 1939 im pretty sure. also you dont have to add 32,000 emojis to get your point across XD
Please do HRE next, I honestly always get stuck because of the non alligned faction and only beeing able to form it after taking out france, italy, soviets and england is kinda lame
Hey man really love your channel keep up the great work. A Poland video sounds great, it would also be cool to see a video on nations like comie china or Manchuria. The usa and Canada or Mexico don't have very many good guides either.
I don't think a nation like Italy should commandeer civilian trains. You probably lose more factory output from the stability hit than if you had delegated a mil to built some extra trains. That is not even to speak of the impact that the strikes have. To be fair, 48 trains is already quite decent. You capture a few from Ethiopia I think and a lot more from France, so I doubt you even need all those trains to begin with. You should probably only click that decision if you are acutely low on trains or if you're a minor with very few mils.
Came to see how to not failing playing Italy and most importantly the navy. Well Not quite what I hoped in terms of navy, as I just need to keep the supplies on and first conquer Suez Canal. But as always your videos are great and I watch them at 1X speed.
Hey man, great video :) If you struggle with world tension when taking France, remember that you can always liberate all the shitty colony countries to reduce world tension!
Its funny how some core states arent cores anymore when forming Rome. Probably the added states from the battle of the Bosporus dlc. The cores that dont work for vanilla Italy are in Turkey and Yugoslavia . Im guessing the new cores weren't tagged after the updates to the game so the new states were never added into the requirement for forming Rome.
i was thinking, would it be faster to build civs until maybe early 39 or build mils straight off the bat. i know the civs method would catch up extremely quickly once it got going but how long would the mils method be on top
Production wise mils will be on top the entire time. By the time you would switch to mils in my run I have already taken most of the states need to form the Roman Empire. The payback time on building civs is usually 1.5-2 years. Given that I went to war before the end of 36 the civs will have barely had a time to make an impact but the mils will have already helped you start producing more equipment. You can conquer the civs and put them to use but most of the nations you conquer are going to have far more civs than mils.
If you want a challenge (or i think it might be) select uruguay and try to beat argentina and brazil and annex all they land. I did this in normal dificult and for my it was a fun challenge. And as allways good video
I love all your guides, binge watching them this week! One question, why the time pressure in this one? Why don't you have time to grind out your field marshall? Edit: answered this right after I unpause the video 🤦♂️ Also you know what would be great. A general guide! Like I'm a newb, so I don't care that much about 100% min-max. But I would like to just pick any faction and start playing without shooting myself in the foot. So kind of, which steps to take before first unpause. Eg. in most guides you delete a bunch of ships in production. Also focus on industry etc. So like a rule of thumb guide would be cool, for people who would like to change their government etc
Probably just make sure your industry tech and focuses are developing, and think about whether you want to go fascist/commie to start expanding early. Set your industry to guns, support, artillery and fighter planes, maybe also cas planes. That usually works
Just 3 things: build civilian factories up to 1938 than build Military and railroads, train your army than upgrade it (every additional division makes training longer) , make sure that you added engineer and artillery to your divisions.
I have done some run to form roman empire too. My results are also quite reliable but the strategy is different. I do not attack Yougo first but only France. Then once France is about to capitulate I justify on Belgium to bring UK. While i'm rushing in Belgium, naval invasion is ready for day 1 war with UK. Then my goal is to keep UK alive but useless by occupying most of its lands and using the fast justify thing from fascist to annex the other minor to form Roman Empire. Once all work is done i capitulate UK to finish the war. I also end up forming it by beginning of 1939 but i think you can do it slightly faster. Final tip is to pick total mob as soon as possible because once roman empire is formed, you can't do it anymore.
I like to put one factory on fighters and use the fighter bonuses italy gets and the allies tend to bomb northern italy and sicily too so fighters are vital. Atleast that us what i think
ethiopian war logistics can be skipped if you release somalia and erithrea als puppets. 70 days saved and you get some free military factories from puppets and you have to worry less about borders
Great video! I found it highly educational! I am a little curious - one of the early actions is to train Navy and get enough XP to build a roach destroyer. But in my play through, following pretty close, I barely finished up the ships already under construction much less built a current-Meta Navy. And I didn't see much in this walkthrough that would have depended on the upgraded destroyer. Could you share the purpose of the upgraded destroyer @71Cloak? I thought I'd also call out that an understated element is that by taking only a small part of Austria, you leave a buffer against the Czechs, allowing a procedural conquest around Eastern Europe, instead of taking on the Czechs right away.
Here’s what I ran into in my practice runs for the achievement. When I capture Austria, even though I puppet them they’re still in the war so Czechs come screaming over the border into my face. Then I get bogged down trying to get my troops up and can’t seem to move into Czech very far before getting stalled
@@71Cloak I was following your guide here, you take Tyrol and puppet the rest. Where in your game it seems Czechs left your puppet alone, I suspect the behavior changed. I’ll adjust and hit Czech first instead
@@71Cloak Ah, I redid it, and released Austria instead of puppeting them and now it's flowing as your guide shows. And now Czech doesn't get to join Allies before I finish them.
@@71Cloak what I did is I grinded 3 generals and a field marshal so they would have mountaineer, infantry leader, organizer and trickster traits, and I took bold attack before grinding the lower attack generals - I justified on Yugo when I had 47pp I think I had a third army ready before I attacked austria
Ur not getting supply there because the game is transferring supplies from the sea and not land. If u block sea zones it would fix it. Idk why it does that but it’s a reoccurring problem in my Italy games
Tried to replicate, but few days after declaring on Austria while capitulating France, Czech joins Uk… paid attention to WT (under 25% before declaring on Austria), but Czech still joins. Any idea?
They shouldn't be able to join the UK if the UK isn't in the war. Unless they join by focus. Everything I did here was on historical. The UK shouldn't want the czechs in their faction if you are not at war with them. The other option is to skip Austria and fight Germany for it later.
6:40 where did all your tanks go? Also if anyone is using this as a guide and wondering what he spent political power on at 16:04 it was the light aircraft design company
Also when I did this Romania joined the Allies and I ended up in an early war with the UK >.< I got bogged down in Yugoslavia and although I broke through eventually my unit strength was severely down. I got half of Romania before they got their armies to block my path and I had to wait for my IC to catch up and lost the momentum XD
I tried to recreate this, and for some reason it took me forever to break through the czechs and romanians, they just had more on the front, ended up a year later than you when you got that far. By that time hungary joined axis, gotta try again later...
I could but world tension was not a problem at any point in the game. I wanted to go to war with the UK when I did. I would also lose out on factories from subjects as all the African subjects would get the generic focus tree and eventually do the factory focuses.
@@71Cloak okey can i have a fan Request european union okey hear me out create spy agency justify france propaganda - 20 extra surrender limit france cheese france with either paratroopers or naval mad dash - justify italy while on war with france librate almost everyone then go to war with italy - justify benalux nation take all oppose hitler there european union
So I tried this and had absolutely nowhere near enough equipment to train as many divisions as you had at the start of the invasion of France. I set up my factories and production lines exactly the way they were in the video and did everything as close as I possibly could if I couldn't get it exact. How are you getting enough equipment to have that many divisions that early? I could pull off everything done here but my main problem, not just with this, is that my factories don't seem like they get built as fast as I always see for others, and my equipment doesn't get stockpiled as fast.
Are you doing your industry research and building in states with the highest infrastructure? I'm pretty certain I was a little behind on guns at the start of the war but not too much.
@@71Cloak Yea, I made sure I built in high infrastructure areas and I always keep up on my industry research. Also too I make sure to upgrade the infrastructure if I need to and if I can. I also wasn't that much farther behind on guns than you were at the start, but as I tried to recruit more divisions the deficit got worse. I think I may have been rushing it though as well since I hate nothing more than my war goals expiring right before I declare lol. Also thanks for the reply, you're videos are very helpful and I've made some decent strides in getting better at HOI4 as an EU4 player.
They lost a decent number of screens in the Mediterranean. After that i took my whole navy and put it in the English Channel with air cover. Its the same thing i did in my how to sealion video.
Well I don't have early access so I'm still going to have to play it and edit it. Also depends a bit on if I stream it or not which would delay them a bit as well.
@@oliverolijung I started with 5 factories on close air support. Going up to 10 on close air support and working towards 20 on fighters as the war with Czechoslovakia finished. I also got part of all 4 of those nations starting air forces which also provide a bit of a boost.
@@71Cloak Ah got it. Is this like an exponential kinda thing or is it about the same per amount of general experience that you‘re missing out on per trait? (I.e Let‘s say you get 2xp per day, but you got 2 other traits so that is turned into 1,6xp per day because both give a 40% penalty)
@@aspielm759 I don't know the numbers, but its a hard falloff on trait building. A few times grinding in Spain I got Panzer leader before Cav when griding both, it takes FOREVER to finish cav if you let that happen.
The division starts as 12. Its also slightly cheaper and fills slightly more combat width. In most cases I'm not reaching the combat width so that doesn't matter.
With what divisions. I was holding the eastern front with 9 infantry divisions of 12 width each. Realistically its way more dangerous to push both fronts at the same time.
I did this the other day... And forget I puppeted Kuwait for some reason...and released Albania and Croatia. About 1000pp later I finally formed imperium romanum. Mussolini incompetence levels were reached.
This is actually one of the fastest Imperium Romanum runs I've seen (apart from the speedrun I saw). Might use this soon.
@Rodrigo Ribeiro pretty sure they meant in terms of in-game years. most roman empire runs usually dont end in 1939 im pretty sure. also you dont have to add 32,000 emojis to get your point across XD
@@bigbad5067 i'd say that roman empire in 37 after nsb is quite common, although my best record was feb38
Just found your channel this day and i watched a lot of your content, its really good
Commandeering those trains really came back to haunt you
Please do HRE next, I honestly always get stuck because of the non alligned faction and only beeing able to form it after taking out france, italy, soviets and england is kinda lame
this seems like a lot of work for something I could have done with formable nations mod. mad respect for managing it regardless.
Hey thanks for the guide, we really appreciate it!
Hey man really love your channel keep up the great work. A Poland video sounds great, it would also be cool to see a video on nations like comie china or Manchuria. The usa and Canada or Mexico don't have very many good guides either.
Nice run, I've been trying this lately and will use some of your strats for sure.
Nice vid bro keep it up
These videos are great, please do more
I don't think a nation like Italy should commandeer civilian trains. You probably lose more factory output from the stability hit than if you had delegated a mil to built some extra trains. That is not even to speak of the impact that the strikes have.
To be fair, 48 trains is already quite decent. You capture a few from Ethiopia I think and a lot more from France, so I doubt you even need all those trains to begin with.
You should probably only click that decision if you are acutely low on trains or if you're a minor with very few mils.
Came to see how to not failing playing Italy and most importantly the navy. Well Not quite what I hoped in terms of navy, as I just need to keep the supplies on and first conquer Suez Canal. But as always your videos are great and I watch them at 1X speed.
Thanks, this video finally helped me to form the empire.
When I heard "artillery 'cause artillery's great" I knew this was going to be good
Hey man, great video :) If you struggle with world tension when taking France, remember that you can always liberate all the shitty colony countries to reduce world tension!
'shitty colony countries' 😂lmao
Wow No step back was a huge buff for Italy.
Man, Vids like this are not worth 2770 subs.
How are you not at 20k already?
Its funny how some core states arent cores anymore when forming Rome. Probably the added states from the battle of the Bosporus dlc. The cores that dont work for vanilla Italy are in Turkey and Yugoslavia . Im guessing the new cores weren't tagged after the updates to the game so the new states were never added into the requirement for forming Rome.
Also the Atlantic Pyrinees in france
Pdx code is great as always
i was thinking, would it be faster to build civs until maybe early 39 or build mils straight off the bat. i know the civs method would catch up extremely quickly once it got going but how long would the mils method be on top
Production wise mils will be on top the entire time. By the time you would switch to mils in my run I have already taken most of the states need to form the Roman Empire. The payback time on building civs is usually 1.5-2 years. Given that I went to war before the end of 36 the civs will have barely had a time to make an impact but the mils will have already helped you start producing more equipment. You can conquer the civs and put them to use but most of the nations you conquer are going to have far more civs than mils.
@@71Cloak yeah i was thinking something similiar. keep up the good work man!
If you want a challenge (or i think it might be) select uruguay and try to beat argentina and brazil and annex all they land. I did this in normal dificult and for my it was a fun challenge.
And as allways good video
I love all your guides, binge watching them this week!
One question, why the time pressure in this one? Why don't you have time to grind out your field marshall? Edit: answered this right after I unpause the video 🤦♂️
Also you know what would be great. A general guide! Like I'm a newb, so I don't care that much about 100% min-max. But I would like to just pick any faction and start playing without shooting myself in the foot. So kind of, which steps to take before first unpause. Eg. in most guides you delete a bunch of ships in production. Also focus on industry etc.
So like a rule of thumb guide would be cool, for people who would like to change their government etc
Probably just make sure your industry tech and focuses are developing, and think about whether you want to go fascist/commie to start expanding early. Set your industry to guns, support, artillery and fighter planes, maybe also cas planes. That usually works
Just 3 things: build civilian factories up to 1938 than build Military and railroads, train your army than upgrade it (every additional division makes training longer) , make sure that you added engineer and artillery to your divisions.
I have done some run to form roman empire too. My results are also quite reliable but the strategy is different.
I do not attack Yougo first but only France. Then once France is about to capitulate I justify on Belgium to bring UK.
While i'm rushing in Belgium, naval invasion is ready for day 1 war with UK. Then my goal is to keep UK alive but useless by occupying most of its lands and using the fast justify thing from fascist to annex the other minor to form Roman Empire.
Once all work is done i capitulate UK to finish the war.
I also end up forming it by beginning of 1939 but i think you can do it slightly faster.
Final tip is to pick total mob as soon as possible because once roman empire is formed, you can't do it anymore.
I like to put one factory on fighters and use the fighter bonuses italy gets and the allies tend to bomb northern italy and sicily too so fighters are vital. Atleast that us what i think
ethiopian war logistics can be skipped if you release somalia and erithrea als puppets. 70 days saved and you get some free military factories from puppets and you have to worry less about borders
Great video! I found it highly educational!
I am a little curious - one of the early actions is to train Navy and get enough XP to build a roach destroyer. But in my play through, following pretty close, I barely finished up the ships already under construction much less built a current-Meta Navy. And I didn't see much in this walkthrough that would have depended on the upgraded destroyer. Could you share the purpose of the upgraded destroyer @71Cloak?
I thought I'd also call out that an understated element is that by taking only a small part of Austria, you leave a buffer against the Czechs, allowing a procedural conquest around Eastern Europe, instead of taking on the Czechs right away.
Damn. Italy needs a new focus tree holy cow.
Here’s what I ran into in my practice runs for the achievement. When I capture Austria, even though I puppet them they’re still in the war so Czechs come screaming over the border into my face. Then I get bogged down trying to get my troops up and can’t seem to move into Czech very far before getting stalled
Why are you puppeting Austria to start with. You need to control the land directly to form the Roman Empire.
@@71Cloak I was following your guide here, you take Tyrol and puppet the rest. Where in your game it seems Czechs left your puppet alone, I suspect the behavior changed. I’ll adjust and hit Czech first instead
Oh and hey, thanks for making this guide, your videos have been excellent, I’ve learned a lot
@@71Cloak Ah, I redid it, and released Austria instead of puppeting them and now it's flowing as your guide shows. And now Czech doesn't get to join Allies before I finish them.
You can push France with one army and split the other one in two and do a offensive on Yugo as well
Not if I want to declare on Austria as well. Holding that position and waiting for the austrian war goal took more than 1 army.
@@71Cloak what I did is I grinded 3 generals and a field marshal so they would have mountaineer, infantry leader, organizer and trickster traits, and I took bold attack before grinding the lower attack generals - I justified on Yugo when I had 47pp
I think I had a third army ready before I attacked austria
The earlier battleships are almost the same design just a bit worse in every way. They are just as fast though.
Ur not getting supply there because the game is transferring supplies from the sea and not land. If u block sea zones it would fix it. Idk why it does that but it’s a reoccurring problem in my Italy games
Tried to replicate, but few days after declaring on Austria while capitulating France, Czech joins Uk… paid attention to WT (under 25% before declaring on Austria), but Czech still joins. Any idea?
Obviously, just after Czech, Austria, Jugo and Romania followed, escalating WWII in Feb ‘37… ah, Germany asked to join Axis while at war with France
They shouldn't be able to join the UK if the UK isn't in the war. Unless they join by focus. Everything I did here was on historical. The UK shouldn't want the czechs in their faction if you are not at war with them.
The other option is to skip Austria and fight Germany for it later.
Thanks! Will retry with an earliest save
Nice video brother. Could you reform Turan and make a video of it ?
I'll be honest. I own battle for the bosporus but I haven't played turkey since before it was released.
@@71Cloak I just played them for the first time today and actually had a lot of fun. Nice channel btw, been binging your vids.
6:40 where did all your tanks go? Also if anyone is using this as a guide and wondering what he spent political power on at 16:04 it was the light aircraft design company
I converted them to infantry. The starting Italian tanks are basically useless. They definitely are not going to help break a mountain tile
Also when I did this Romania joined the Allies and I ended up in an early war with the UK >.<
I got bogged down in Yugoslavia and although I broke through eventually my unit strength was severely down. I got half of Romania before they got their armies to block my path and I had to wait for my IC to catch up and lost the momentum XD
@@71Cloak Ah ok :3
Why only use close air support? Don't you need fighters?
I tried to recreate this, and for some reason it took me forever to break through the czechs and romanians, they just had more on the front, ended up a year later than you when you got that far. By that time hungary joined axis, gotta try again later...
Next Challenge: Napoleonic France
Thanks for the guide! One question: do you use a mod to make the add airwing screen bigger, or is there a setting for that?
Mod. Its called better airwing deployment and is mp and ironman compatible.
i just tried this, i’m not very good so i couldn’t beat france before they formed the allie’s. tough
do i need any DLC for the reform of the Romanum Empire? cause i dont have the option to reform... pls help @71Cloak
Waking the tiger
Ok now make this into a world conquest pls :D
There is some improvement that you can use you can libarete all those land and drop world tension - 25
I could but world tension was not a problem at any point in the game. I wanted to go to war with the UK when I did. I would also lose out on factories from subjects as all the African subjects would get the generic focus tree and eventually do the factory focuses.
@@71Cloak okey can i have a fan Request european union okey hear me out create spy agency justify france propaganda - 20 extra surrender limit france cheese france with either paratroopers or naval mad dash - justify italy while on war with france librate almost everyone then go to war with italy - justify benalux nation take all oppose hitler there european union
what can i do if when i annex yugoslavia chekoslovakia joins the allies
start phase 2 of fighting the allies early.
Just a question but why do you not upgrade your generals? If you wait do you get better traits?
So I tried this and had absolutely nowhere near enough equipment to train as many divisions as you had at the start of the invasion of France. I set up my factories and production lines exactly the way they were in the video and did everything as close as I possibly could if I couldn't get it exact. How are you getting enough equipment to have that many divisions that early? I could pull off everything done here but my main problem, not just with this, is that my factories don't seem like they get built as fast as I always see for others, and my equipment doesn't get stockpiled as fast.
Are you doing your industry research and building in states with the highest infrastructure? I'm pretty certain I was a little behind on guns at the start of the war but not too much.
@@71Cloak Yea, I made sure I built in high infrastructure areas and I always keep up on my industry research. Also too I make sure to upgrade the infrastructure if I need to and if I can. I also wasn't that much farther behind on guns than you were at the start, but as I tried to recruit more divisions the deficit got worse. I think I may have been rushing it though as well since I hate nothing more than my war goals expiring right before I declare lol. Also thanks for the reply, you're videos are very helpful and I've made some decent strides in getting better at HOI4 as an EU4 player.
How do you invade the British islands?, the UK navy is broken in my Game -_-
They lost a decent number of screens in the Mediterranean. After that i took my whole navy and put it in the English Channel with air cover.
Its the same thing i did in my how to sealion video.
Is this the product of your airforce? How were you punching through everyone? 9-3s?
I used those starting 12 widths the whole video.
can someone give me tips for sovet infantry templates
So are you going to do some WH3 videos when it drops tomorrow morning?
Well I don't have early access so I'm still going to have to play it and edit it. Also depends a bit on if I stream it or not which would delay them a bit as well.
I had to cheat to do this, good on you for not
What mod r u using for names
Can you achieve this in Darkest Hour?
how many hours do you have and how did you get so good at this game lmao
too many. Watching other people play.
why can’t you get trickster right away?
Every trait you have slows down grinding more traits. I did a whole video on general grinding if you want to learn more about it.
At 23:03 how did you get such a big airforce window?
I know its massive :)
But how did you get it? I need to know:D I hate the smal one you get by default
@@oliverolijung I started with 5 factories on close air support. Going up to 10 on close air support and working towards 20 on fighters as the war with Czechoslovakia finished. I also got part of all 4 of those nations starting air forces which also provide a bit of a boost.
Sry, I think we are talking cross purposs. I was refering to the menu for depolying new air wings(: Are you using a mod to get such a clean display?
@@oliverolijung ohh its a mod called better airwing deployment
Why keep them at 99% I‘ve never done grinds like this
The more grindable traits you have the longer it takes to grind new traits.
@@71Cloak
Ah got it.
Is this like an exponential kinda thing or is it about the same per amount of general experience that you‘re missing out on per trait?
(I.e Let‘s say you get 2xp per day, but you got 2 other traits so that is turned into 1,6xp per day because both give a 40% penalty)
@@aspielm759 I don't know the numbers, but its a hard falloff on trait building. A few times grinding in Spain I got Panzer leader before Cav when griding both, it takes FOREVER to finish cav if you let that happen.
How does your time pass so fast?
The answers probably editing. This was 3-4 hours long before I edited it down
Why 12width instead of 10 width?
The division starts as 12. Its also slightly cheaper and fills slightly more combat width. In most cases I'm not reaching the combat width so that doesn't matter.
@@71Cloak thank you for the answer. I take advantage that you still don't have as many comments as you deserve to ask you directly.
if u had pushed while in war whit france u could have takes minors wen france capitulated
With what divisions. I was holding the eastern front with 9 infantry divisions of 12 width each. Realistically its way more dangerous to push both fronts at the same time.
What template do you use for this?
12 width, engineers, art, aa.
@@71Cloak all infantry?
@@Wiztygames yup.