My Harley Davidson Heritage is NOT worth it? (Motovlog #13)
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2020
- After watching the Shadetree Surgeon video titled "Honest Review: Harley Davidson Heritage Classic | NOT WORTH IT" I thought I would seize the opportunity to use my $20,000 motorcycle purchase combined with the UA-cam algorithms appreciation for topical content to make a video on the subject.
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Honest Review: Harley Davidson Heritage Classic | NOT WORTH IT
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If only more people could disagree the way we do, the world would be a better place. I had no idea I wasn't subscribed, been following you on Instagram for some time now. Rectified.
Totally agreed. I love disagreement, it’s what makes us unique. No need for the fragility of egos in this complex world. Spirited debate with someone you respect is beautiful when both parties walk way with a smile on their face, not because they feel they WON, but because they were engaged with an open mind. I also think we find common ground in our mutual dislike of Crystal Pepsi.
I had to subscribe when I found out this dude lives in the same town as me.
I do belive shadetree would have liked it a little better if he had acess to the bigget motor
Stay Classy San Diego !! I really wish there was such thing as Civil Discourse in this Country. Maybe you guys can start a positive trend!!!!!!
This vidoe popped up in my feed. I really enjoyed it. I played this becaue I thought it might be sort of a reply to shadetrees video, that I found very hilarious. He really did rip on the Heritage. I already knew that bike wasn't for me. You have done a great job making yours nice, anf I am glad you like it.
I absolutely love my 2019 Heritage classic with the 114. Granted, I removed the dog bowl, swapped the tank caps, bought Mustang seat, did a stage 2 torque cam, added a Reckless fairing...haha! I made this bike my own and love it! 👍👍👍👍👍👽👽👽👽👽
Your bike looks awesome too. I have considered doing a full fairing too.
If we all liked the same bike equally, they would only make one model. I watched Shade Tree’s video and thought it was well done, in his own style. I, too, own a ‘19 Heritage 114, as well as a ‘15 SGS, and took no offense and appreciate his opinions, though I may not agree with them all. If it runs and has two wheels, it’s worth a ride!
That is true. Shadetrees style is awesome. Ride safe!!
I bought my '20 Heritage Classic 114 last October. What drew me to the bike WAS the looks. Mine is black, the fastest color. 😉 I did test ride a '19 before I bought mine. I like the power of the 114 and how the bike rides and handles, especially compared to my '14 Ultra Limited, which I still have. After installing V&H slip-ons and an H-D engine guard, I think the bike sounds and looks great. I installed smoked LED turn signals and a smoked LED brake light. I'm 5'11", wear a Shoei Neotec, and I have no issues with buffeting. Sure, there are things about the bike that could be better. I find the bags just a tad small. I occasionally wear a half-helmet which doesn't fit in them. I'm not a big fan of the push-buttons on top. Also, I'm not a big fan of the counterbalanced engine. I get some vibrations through the bars and footboards, but new grips helped a little with that issue. I haven't been on any long trips, but I find the seat to be plenty comfortable. I also added a Grasshopper rider backrest, which adds to the comfort. Overall, I'm liking the bike more and more the more miles I ride it. FWIW, I don't watch Shadetree. I find him a little over-dramatic for my tastes.
HAHA the FASTEST color for sure. I like the idea of adding an Ultra Limited to my stable at some point as well. The bags could be SLIGHTLY deeper without looking to obnoxious. As far as Shadetree is concerned, just like motorcycles ALL of us UA-camrs are subjective which is also fine. I have a huge respect for his presentation and the hard work that I know goes into his productions. I am a Shadetree fan but I’m sure he understands some people aren’t no different than I am sure a bunch of his fans wont like me for some reason or another. Thanks for the comment... Ride Safe!!
To each his own. I have a 2019 Heritage 114 and I am totally enjoying the bike. Everyone has his own opinions, I just think Shadetrees opinion is wrong.
HAHA I agree
@@GearsGadgets second that
To each his own! Both videos are what motorcycling is all about ! Make it YOUR own and if you don’t look back you bought the wrong bike. All motorcycles are subjective based on experience, body type, ride style, etc etc and your both made those points well. Well done 👍🏼. I rode the 107 and 114 and enjoyed both. My favorite HD ride thus far has been the RK special. But the buffering with it is a bit much, or else it be perfect bike FOR ME. And that’s the bottom line. What fits YOU. Thanks Dan !
Absoltely. Thanks for the comment.
Just picked up a 22 heritage classic 114 a month ago. I love it!!!
I just did 1700 mile on my 2022 Heritage last week end and have no complaints with the seat. I was surprised because this is the first bike that I could ride all day without being tired. Cruising a 60 in 6th gear save a lot of gas. The rider backrest and cruise control Is such a game changer. i bought the plugs that cover the locking button and was caught in a down poor. No water at all in the bags. This bike can tour with the best of them. It is so balanced coming up to a stop light or sign, half the time I don't have to put my foot down a 4 way intersections. Best bike I have ever owned and I have own a lot of them over 50 years.
I’m glad you posted this. I felt the same way about his comments. I’m 6’2” and find the bike fits me really well. I agree with most of your assessment. I did buy a taller screen, but I do a lot of highway miles.
Thanks J.
Thank you for the counter prospective, I also watched Shadtree's video. I just rode a 2020 Heritage 114 and loved the feel and power, you actually ride in the bike and not on top like a Road King. Like the look and agree the first thing to swap out would be the pipes. Excellent video, thanks for sharing your views!
Thanks I appreciate the kind words. Def pipes right away. I think it is a great pipe.
I own the same bike and also saw Shade trees review. I had the same reaction as you did. I value his opinion and like his channel but I personally love the Heritage. He’s right that there are a few things they could have done differently but non were deal breakers. The motor, cruise, comfort, storage, looks etc are all awesome to me.
Yeah I certainly don't get offended by people who don't like what I like. Its part of life.
It is great that we can all express ourselves. I so enjoy having good conversations with people, especially when we disagree. You should love your bike and make it yours. I ride a Road King Special and my friend rides a Heritage. We discuss from time to time and comes down to we own the bike that fits us.
Hooah!
Absolutely!!
Exactly
I rode a Sportster from 1983-90, and sold it when our second daughter was born. From about 2001 till about three months ago I was riding a Yamaha Vstar 650. I traded it three months ago for a 2015 Heritage, and I absolutely love it! Good to be back on a Harley again!
Very cool! Thanks for sharing and ride safe!!
I owned a 2005 Heritage for six years and absolutely loved it. Rode it coast to coast twice and was super comfortable. The new softail frame rides even better!
Absoltely.
I’m so glad I saw both of these videos!
Thanks Drax!!
Love that we can change so many things on our bikes. We did end up selling my husbands 2019 Heritage because we could never get it to fit him. Then again... that is why there are so many different models. There is something for everyone. Ride safe! 😎🏍🖤
Very true!!! Ride safe!!
I think both of you have valid points... I liked both of your videos etc. But I will say I take my hat off to Shadetree purely because he was honest and open about what he thought of the bike as opposed to the usual everything is great video. Similar to your previous videos about your thoughts on how HD should re design the bagger lineup... I really enjoyed your graphics of how the Streetglide could look. So well done to both you and shadetree for being honest about your thoughts and sharing them with us. 👍👍
Thanks Jon, I appreciate it. As long as we are all staying true to ourselves and respecting one another it is great to share different perspectives. The UA-cam motovlog community is awesome.
Excellent rebuttle! I saw the other guy's video and was a little shocked at what he was saying. Most reviews are positive. I prefer to see genuine reviews (Good and bad). However, he seemed to reach far to the bad for whatever personal reason. Thanks for clarifying your points about the Heritage. I was a little disappointed at first because I am interested in the Herritage or Road King. Your comments helped me to feel better again about the Herritage. Thank you for your honest reviews!!
Sure thing, Thanks for watching!!!
Shadetree would have liked it better if it had a fish taco dispenser in one saddlebag, and a beer tap instead of a fake gas cap. Haha, I love the bike esp with the 114
HAHA I think I would like mine better too if it had a fish taco dispenser and beer tap
I'm with you man, I appreciate his (and your) feedback but it's purely subjective. I just picked up my own brand new heritage softail (first harley all together for me!!) and I love it so far. Making some changes to make it more my style (lights, reduce some chrome, exhaust, etc). And thanks to you (in a great way) I'll be getting the TAB 2.25s and a tune. Love the way they sound in your videos, so thank you for that!
Good video, 2k sold. 😂
I’ve owned so many different HD’s and have several other bikes. I have to tell you, it’s like shoes to me, what you plan on doing (or going) and what you’re in the mood for. I have to tell you the whole reason I got another heritage is because it is the closest bike to what I fell in love with motorcycling with. It’s simple and pure. If I’m being honest, it’s one of my “go to” bikes and it’s rare not to get compliments. I guess that’s why there are so many different types of bikes out there, because one does not fit all.
Stay well and ride safe brother. 🤙🏼
Thanks Bobby. Ride safe as well, I appreciate your time watching my video.
I have a 2014 103 Heritage Classic I personally love the old classic look and definitely all the chrome
Nothing wrong with that. Personally chrome isn’t for me but I do appreciate it and others who like it.
Horses for courses, I bought a Sport Glide a few weeks ago, after a bunch of humming and hah-ing, it's everything I expected it to be. The dealer warned me I'd have a sore backside after riding the 700k's home, I didn't, the seat was fine, or all of the nerves are already dead from years of riding. Love the bike, we're all different, shadetree's entertaining and his views are just as valid as yours or mine or anyone else riding a bike, good to see everyone can be objective and not start a sh_t fight, just for the sake of it. Kudos.
Absolutely man, congrats on the Sport Glide!!!.. I personally have too much respect for other creators, even when I disagree I know what goes into it and would never start some kind of fabricated squabble for views at the expense of someone else.
I think it is the best when we can change what we dont like about our motorcycles and rectify their shortcomings to work for our individual needs. Another reason why I love motorcycles. Like how you kept this counter point review polite. Keep it classy America!!!
Totally agree, thanks for the kind words!!
I own a 2019 Heritage Classic 114. Best bike I’ve ever owned. Great for around town and some long trips as well. Have gone 2 up with wife several times with no issues. Get a lot of complements on the old school bike look. To each their own. I’m 59 years old now--so the slightly lighter weight is a big benefit for me. Remember-whatever bike you ride-as long as you still stop and look back at it as you walk away and like your ride-- it’s all good. Stay safe everyone and ride smart.
Thanks for sharing!
I bought a 2019 Heritage 114 and I love everything about the bike. I installed the Tab Performance Zombie Baffles, I replaced the gas caps with flush mounts for sleeker look and now I’m in the process updating my bars with ape hanger. Love the ease of shifting gears and
the suspension when riding through shitty roads.
Absolutely agree... I need to look into the flush gas caps. I was eyeing them a while ago and just never ordered them.
@@GearsGadgets thanks for the reply back. Stay safe on the road 🤙
I really appreciate your review as I just saw his review too and was so bummed (although I realized he was talking a lot about sheer aesthetics). Please could you tell me what Heritage's full throttle is? Thanks so much, you lifted my spirits!
Love the heritage. Came over from a 97' evo super glide. The heritage is the only thing sold that has everything my old bike had and more without needing to add anything. The bars, bags, windshield, were on my old bike and the cruise control, abs and spot lights really sweetened the deal without adding a ton of extra unnecessary weight as well as maintaining a timeless look, unlike outdated speakers and navigation within 5 years. The only concerns/issues I have with the heritage is though the spoked wheels looks great and nostalgic, I don't want to send a spoke through the inner tube, and it was wayyyyy to quiet! I had stage 1 tune and s&s 2into1 equal length exhaust installed to fix that problem and wow did it make a huge improvement. All in all it's a great bike, and easily the most versatile bike harley makes. Plus chick's dig it 👈😎👈 safe travels
I didn't object to Shadetree either, different strokes for different folks! I didn't buy a Heritage, I bought the Deluxe 2018 for my 66th birthday, I'm a chrome guy and like the old-school look. I have changed my bike to be like a Heritage including the longer shock absorber. The 107 was very powerful to me as the last HD I owned was a 1994 Ultra, 80 inch., great ride, but low power but great for touring. I really love my Deluxe/Heritage!
I watched the same video and it could have talked someone out of a Heritage even though he did disclaim the heck out of it. I always thought the Heritage was a good looking bike and nice objective view on what you like. I had my check book out when the video started, fyi 😂. Ride safe
Thanks BoDean, you can drop that check in the mail lol.
I love my mixing bowl , the bike was thrown in for free , a Heritage has always been my favorite , I do love these bikes . I always fall for these , and the springer classics . Ride safe , and enjoy .
love shadetree, usually is spot on. he has his opinions, I get where he's coming from. I still dig the heritage though. I dig the road king more though.
I had a 2018 heritage softail and I loved it. With that being said I literally just traded it in for a Road King Special. I liked the smoother ride and more storage.
Fair enough, the Road King Special is an awesome bike.
Good video man. I have a 2020 heritage classic V107 in vivid black and I love it. I opted for the 107 because I love the chrome look. The 107 for me has more than enough power. I don't really have any gripes about the bike other than with HD. They should have put LED lights in the rear and gave a nicer tail lamp like the Deluxe tombstone. I'm 6' and get wind buffeting but that's not the fault of HD. I put an extension wind deflector and no more buffeting. Saddlebags no issue and the dummy gas cap doesn't matter to me, its just there and I don't touch it. If the dummy gas cap wasn't there then the real gas cap belongs in the center of the tank...can go all day with opinions but its all good...lol
I love hearing opinions lol. Cant go wrong with a Heritage and of course a lot of my criticism is subjective for sure.
I love my bike, and it handles like a charm. You have a beautiful bike too, keep up the good work.
I disagree with that guys views on the Heritage. I like everything on my 2019 Harley-Davidson Heritage Classic FLHCS 114. Keep up the good work.
I like the Heritage, specially the older models. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching! Just got done watching a couple of your videos so I appreciate the support!!
Had the 2019 107 heritage and absolutely loved it. 6'1" btw. The review by shadetree was mostly all about personal preference and a very good one i thought. Just because it suited me doesn't mean it does everyone and that's cool. There are so many different models and mods people can make them whatever they want. Personally I now have the 2020 roadking special he was riding and while it is a good solid bike I would rather have my heritage back lol. They make a bike for everyone.
Yeah your absolutely right, Shadetree was VERY clear it was all just personal preference. Thats really the case with all bikes. Its interesting to hear guys who went from the Heritage to a Road King saying they would like the Heritage back. I have gotten a couple of those comments.
I watched his video as well, I've always liked the look of the heritage Softail, they just have that old school look, I've never owned one but my brother loves his 2012 Softail, I think we could all pick the good and the bad on just about any bike out there, well done brother, from one Dan to another Dan ride safe brother ride easy 💯👍🏼
Thanks Dan appreciate the comment.
@@GearsGadgets I appreciate you putting up the great videos Dan 💯👍🏼
I prefer the touring lineup myself and I cannot even imagine riding in 111 degrees it’s really humid here in the south though
Riding in 110+ is pretty brutal but atleast its dry so when you start moving the dry air helps keep you dry. Humid is the worst, I lived in Atlanta for 2 years in my young 20’s
South Texas gulf coast is brutal 110+ with 40-50% humidity depending on rain the day before or small shower I actually don’t mind a little shower while riding when it’s that hot.
I have a 2020 heritage and absolutely love it. Love the led lights, suspension is very good plenty of power out of my 107 with a stage one, amazing sound with my Samson true duals. If you have to much buffeting by a flared windshield problem sloved
Did you go with a flared windshield then? If so which one?
Yes I went with long ride shields out of Nevada
Very happy with my 2020 Heritage 114, saw his review and thought number one a 107 and two his previous test bike was Road King 114. He weighs 300, I weigh 165, this is perfect for me. Bags don’t leak, just got back from Sturgis love this motorcycle, my other bike is a Dyna. Appreciate both points of view. You read my mind. Thanks for sticking up for the Heritage haha
HAHA sure thing. How was Sturgis?
Gears & Gadgets Sturgis was awesome, not too crowded. Stayed outta the bars and rode👍
Hi Dan enjoyed your video. Yes we all have our likes and dislikes weather it be seats, windscreens or suspension. I own a Heritage and really enjoy riding it the only thing I wish I could change would be seeing the instruments/warning lights better. We often go touring on it never had gear wet in the bags and like yourself had adjusted the suspension. Have Vance and Hines pipes and man it sounds great. The style of the bike reflects back to the good old days and love the look. A bit like Porsche the style of car reflects back to the old days and they've stuck with it refining where they need to as with the new heritage. Enjoy riding your bike because you got it to fit and enhance your ride like I did.
thanks for the kind words and the input Giles!! ride safe!!
G & G, good video. I have a 2018 Heritage and love it! However, I also experienced really bad buffeting. I'm 6' but long in the back and shorter (29-30" inseam) in the leg. I solved this after watching a video on youtube from another FLHCS rider also suffering buffeting who fitted some wind deflectors from jescustomaccents (from your side of the pond) along with a screen extender from Touratech for good measure! (which came off my old BMW GS!!) Now no buffeting, job done!
Thanks Simon, Interesting I might have to check those companies out for the sake of a review. I certainly don’t have a lot of buffeting myself but the products are interesting.
Thanks for the information.
His video was entertaining. I agreed/disagreed with it. It was a well done review of that bike, and on the heels of that RoadKing special. Of course he wouldn’t like it as much. Personally, I like the Heritage. Had it not been for the Corona I would have bought one.
Thanks Jay, by the way, Your Jason Mamoa content got put in my spam folder because of the links and I left it there because I plan on doing a video on it and I know where to find it in the spam folder. I will get to that one in the next week or two for sure.
Great response video! as channel shows I own a 2020 heritage 114 and absolutely love it . Mr Shadetree while entertaining in a TV wrestler manner - think Macho man Randy Savage, Is not the most objective person around. A quick read of the Owners manual would tell you not to twist the left cap . Its there to balance the looks and imho is way better than the old fuel gauge in the cap of the past. If the bags leak , i wouldn't know as i live in Phoenix too . it may never rain again here it seems lately . I have had a 107 in a road king and while the 114 is indeed effortlessly powerful , i dont find it that different than the 107. better than the 103 TC though. i didnt care for the windshield and added a reckless batwing- major improvement ( thanks JP) This is an excellent bike and deserves better . I mean maybe it would be better with a scrap heap vetter trunk--- nah! . I think he was so put off by the fake gas cap disaster that it colored his whole opinion
Ride safe fellow az rider!
Randytbird
Thanks for the great comment, I agree with you. I would love to see that Reckless fairing. Ride safe man!!
Great video. Shade tree said to check it out. Now subscribed!
Awesome! Thank you! Shadetree is the man.
I traded my 18 heritage in for a road king. Love the new road king. Comfort lacked on the heritage very happy with the road king
I just did the same. I liked the Heritage but the Road King is more comfortable for long trips, which is what I'm going to use it for. At first, I thought my Heritage could be like a Swiss Army Knife, good for short trips to the coffee shop and also for long rides. What I found was it was a little too heavy to be fun for short trips and not comfortable and functional enough for long trips. So I traded it in for a new Road King with all the new safety stuff on it, and bought a slightly used 2018 Sportster Roadster for short trips. I'm happier now.
Steven R felt the same way. I will pick up a dyna or another softail to bomb around on but loving my 20 road king. Had it a month now put 2200 miles on already. Getting a stage 2 done soon
I can see that evolution for sure.
The Road King is defiantly the better value for the money. You can get the RDRS system on it and it is more comfortable. Personally I think the Road King is a better all around motorcycle, daily raider, touring, going down curvy roads. The Heritage is nice, but it is just not as nice as the Road King.
Hi, I’ve been meaning to ask you. How does it handle backroads? Are the brakes good? I live near miles of twisty backroads.
I have a 2019 Heritage and love it. I have even gone 2 up with the wife on 100-200 trips with no issues- I did upgrade the passenger seat for her. Overall, I get a lot of looks and comments about how the bike looks. I love it. Baggers are cool too-but for the town riding and the shorter trips I do-can’t beat it his bike. I do respect all points of view.
Awesome. My wife has only gone on small in town rides with me so I dont have to worry too much about her comfort but as we get older we might want a little more of a touring bike setup. I love the Heritage as a solo tourer for sure.
I’m a big shade tree fan and follower but I do love the heritage Softail and I actually like the new studs they put on the bike .
Thanks Micheal. I am a big Shadetree fan as well. Yeah I dont mind the studs either, some people seem to really object to them.
I rode one last year and liked it. I thought it was a pretty comfortable bike. I hope to ride one soon and be able to do a video review of it. I kind of agree with ole Shadetree about some of his review, but have a different overall take of the bike.
Perception and individuality
Right on!
Differing opinions make the world more interesting. Having said that, I also own a 2019 Heritage 114. You are right when you say you need to adjust and dial in the suspension. Its a good ride after you do. I did happen to change out my seat to a Sundowner for touring and doing the long miles. My 114 has a SE Power Cam with a HD Tuner and a set of Tab Pipes and i reckon it would blow my CVO117 Ultra with a S&S475 Cam and Cobra Pipes & Headers into the weeds (accept that there is a big weight difference). He is correct in his assertion about tha bags. Just my opinion but I find the shape as poor and also my bags leak when I wash the bike. HD say that they are not fully Waterproof like the Hard bags are supposed to be, so nothing they can do. Im 6ft and also dont get the buffeting. With all that said I really do love my Heritage either to go touring or when you remove the screen and bags to ride around town (Best of both Worlds).
thanks for the comment. I agree it is a really versatile bike. I do understand the bag complaints slightly but in my opinion it is a concession made when going Heritage instead of Road King but the Heritage does have some benefits over the RK in other areas.
I was just wondering you were going to do a follow-up video on your Commander 2 tires look through your library and didn't see a follow-up video on them after the trip to Texas
Jon9923 B I should probably do that lol. I will put that on the top of my list.
I love my 2019 Harley-Davidson Heritage Classic FLHCS .I love the blackout look, and very happy it doesn't have chrome studs. I plan on having the moon bowl painted gloss black powder coated. I like the sheild with the on the lower half looks fantastic. That person who gave the bike a bad rating should have tacken a 114 to the limit on winding roads. You have looks/styles without mods, with mods the world is yours.. Thanks, keep up the good work.
Thanks I appreciate the kind words.
I have a 2021 Heritage 107, and at 5'10" the buffeting around my helmet at any speed over 100 km/h (62mph) with the windshield on it is brutal. I had the same problem with my previous bike, a 2019 Road King, which I sorted out by cutting the windshield down by 5 inches and adding fork mounted wind deflectors. I may try doing the same for the Heritage, but have also been looking into replacing the windshield with a batwing faring. Anyone have any thoughts/advice on the batwing vice windshield?
Love my heritage 114, bags do leak but it took over a year for them to start my bike gets left out in the weather most bikes are covered or in a garage so that could effect it, I’m 5’10 and I do get wind buffeting but like you said torso, postures etc. most people change exhaust so it isn’t worth mentioning . Rear shock is fine you can always upgrade tho depending on riding style and the front forks are a wee squishy but what you have to realize is you get a great front light setup, the stock seat is actually comfortable for a good time after purchase but you will upgrade , comes with saddle bags and windshield and has the same motor as a road king special, and it weighs 107lbs less. Snappier , faster , and easily comparable with less weight to a touring bike. I would argue if you don’t want to spend more than 22k on a bike you should pick the heritage over the road king every time.
Oh and to add to reduce that weight on a road king without losing utility your spending 3500.00+
Thanks David, I totally agree
I love my 2007 heritage classic I looked at both reviews also I will be looking at a new heritage after the first of the year. Looked at the roadking but at 5'6 and 165 lbs I'm sticking to the heritage.
I love my heritage. No feelings hurt if someone else is not impressed by my choice. We can all like different things.
absolutely agree.
I also watched Shadetree's video. I also own a 2018 - 114 Heritage. At first I wanted to fire off a pissed-off response but decided to keep my opinion to myself. I did agree with a few things, windshield buffeting, bad seat and fake gas cap. I completely disagreed w/ the rest. I love my 2018 Heritage. Ive owned almost every Harley model since I starting riding in 1979. My last bike which I traded in for my Heritage was a 2008 CVO Anniversary Road King w/ the 110 engine. Truthfully they didn't compare. The Heritage beat out the RK out in every aspect. Thanks for your video & keep up the good work. Cheers
HAHA yeah its easy to want to dig in but in all reality its just one mans opinion. I love the Heritage and could make some reasonable arguments as to why it is better than a RK for some.
I sub to you and shade....i enjoy both opinions and thats how you learn to make your own opinion. Great job because when i saw his vid I immediately thought of you. Good job. Im not a fan of studs..but the blacked out heritage ones i actually think are all right lol.. Its not wrong nor right.. Its a good thing we sll like different things or we would all be riding the exact same bike.
Thanks Jonathan. Really none of it is wrong nor right, we all like what we like. But yeah I dont take exception to the black studs but I have heard others with that critique before.
best bang for the buck heritage soft tail : after 60 years of riding over 15 + motorcycles last 3 were 2013 dyna,, 2018 114 heritage, and my new bike 2020 street glide . Street glide is awesome on looks but rides like a 3/4 ton pickup truck . I bought the heritage in 2018 because of the new frame and basically a new designed bike new technology it was the best i have owned in 60 years best ride ever
Aside from riding for 60 years I totally agree, I will have to ride well into my 80’s to catch up to your experience.
I fucking LOVE your bike bro! Props to you and props to Shadetree!
Thanks man I appreciate it.
I had a 17 streetglide and now a heritage classic 114. I've taken both bikes on long trips and have had a far more comfortable ride on the heritage. One other factor that surprised me was that the heritage seemed to hold the road better when it is windy out. Crossing the plains states i was really thinking I'd get pushed around more on the heritage so was pleasantly surprised. Possibly the fairing on the streetglide caught more wind? The torque of the heritage combined with lower weight made mountain passes fun. The lighter weight in parking lots also helps. the stock headlights are amazing. They look great and light up the entire road. Very expensive items that are stock. The heritage is a rare bike that's comfortable around town or on a long trip. Just a great bike. Btw: items like windshields and seats are always going to be liked or disliked according to height , weight, etc. Easily changed to fit riding style. Thanks my 2 cents.
That is an interesting comment that you dont see often. Most guys are trying to encourage people up into the touring bikes but I get it. My Heritage was VERY capable for a 2500 mile 5 day trip.
Good I love my 114 Heritage also it’s upgraded but the seat and windscreen is stock I’m 5’8 it works well unless there’s a ton of crosswinds
What seat did you go with?
Gears & Gadgets mustang per @jp1970
Good review, rebuttal if that's what you call it; I like the Heritage. It was my number 2/3 bike but settled on a Road King Special 2017. Basically shadetree hit it on the head, I didn't like the studs (yes its subjective) in person and the bags I def didn't like. If you love your wheels, that's what matters. The Heritage is a great bike
Yeah man absolutely agree... it is absolutely subjective.
I agree with you I did not think he did a review. I live in mesa and own a 2019 Heritage and i think it is a good bike.
Its an awesome bike
I rented a heritage for bring it home. Rode it across Texas. And loved the bike. Even would say best bang for buck in the line up. Take the bags and windshield off you got a nice cruiser. Put it back on touring bike. Gas mileage and comfortable. And I put the heritage rear shock in my lowrider S.
Was there a big difference in the shock from the Lowrider S to the Hertiage Shock?
Gears & Gadgets for the lowrider yes. More clearance cornering. And looks better with the azz up a bit. I did 910 miles in 12hr 40min on my way home from sturgis. The bike is comfy and I have the fxrt fairing which works really good
I personally loved his vid. When I buy something big I not only look at the 5 star rating but also the 1 star. Like he said he was really nitpicking to find flaws. I hate when I spend money on a big ticket item and before all I seen was glowing articles but then y find issues, research those issues and find out they are common issues. Many things are subjective.
I totally agree. The negative reviews are just as important as the positive ones if you want a well rounded informed idea of the product.
Totally agree. Love my 2019 heritage 114.
Thanks Frank!!
I love the Old Heritage bikes even with the crappy leather bag lol
I do like the old Heritage too but some saggy bags aren’t really my jam.
Watching this because shadetree recommended it. Glad he did.
Ed Brown thanks man I appreciate it!! Shadetree is the man.
I noticed that the Dyno Jet Power Vision is still mounted on your bike, I'm thinking about getting one for our '05 Dyna Wide Glide, is it supposed to stay on the bike when you ride or can you remove it and still have the custom map that it flashed on your bikes computer?
You can remove it after you tune it. I just leave mine on because I like the additional data it provides with engine temp gauges.
@@GearsGadgets I see, yeah that would be good info to know while it's running, thanks....
I would be happy with the softail standard and make it into what I want for my price.
Nice contrast to Shadetree’s review. Bike love is subjective, we’re not all chasing the same thing.
Thanks for the comment.
I experienced the buffeting as well. 18 months and 25k miles i recently sold mine. I thought it was a good bike. It did everything I needed it to and did it well.
Now for Mr. Maxwell to chime in hahaha
HAHA I would love to hear from Maxwell on Heritage-gate but I think he is too busy with that shop success which is totally understandable and commendable
riding in 111 degrees?!? You're nuts!! :)
I won't get rid of my 2015 Heritage, maybe not the BEST bike on the road, but it does everything I want and I can ride 10-12 hours a day on it.
Yeah 111 is a bit toasty haha. Anything you can put 10-12 hours a day on is a solid bike.
I think the idea of getting a softail standard and just tossing on bags is just that the overall cost is like 4000 lower lol. I was told a good point though that if you finance it that barely affects monthly payments, and some people just don't give a rat's ass about the price and don't wanna fiddle with their bike at all. I dont think anyone is gonna disagree that the Heritage is an awesome bike. I think it just comes down to whether you think the price is worth it. If so, then hell yeah. If no, there's plenty of other bikes you'll love for sure. Shadetree is just like me though with a preference for the Road King in general I imagine.
I like your style man, gonna sub.
I think that is a pretty solid idea. I think the Softail Standard is an awesome offering. Thanks for the sub!! (Sorry for the WAY late reply)
I don't know much about these newer Heritages. I own an '04 that I bought used in 2007. I've only put 150,000 miles on it but so far I'm pretty happy with it. It's definitely old school, but at 70 so am I. I believe that it all comes down to personal choice, you can make any bike exactly what you want it to be, and very few harleys stay bone stock.
70 here with a 2000 FLSTC and I will ride mine until they bury me with my engineer boots on.
The suspension on your bike is 100% excellent.
agree
You are right about the suspension, at 226 lbs I was scared about bumps. I have no problems with my 114.
What is that jacket called ,is it water proof. Looks comfortable. Could tell me all about it
I forgot what it is called but they discontinued it anyway. Kind of sucks because I would have bought it again if they still sold it. Mine is getting worn out.
To me the Heritage has lost its way. It's supposed to be "chrome this" and "chrome that"; not "black this" and "black that". I honestly thought about selling my 06 for a new one but once I saw the pictures...NO WAY!! After watching shadetrees video my mind was blown away when I verified you actually CAN get a road king for the same price as a heritage (wish I could have seen the look on my face when I saw this lol) guess what my next bike will be 😉
At the end of the day, people like what they like. I really like the Road King. But I do get the buffing I am 6'4 and have a tall recurved windshield and still get the buffing. The only time I get clean air is with the windshield off. Thinking about buying a reckless faring for it. But just having pulled the trigger on that thought. 🤔
Absolutely. I think if I were to go touring I would go bat wing fairing.
Hi
Is your helmet GT air 2 ?
I have a 2019 and I love the bike with the 114 saddle bags foot boards. I like everything except for the windshield I am 5'6 (short rider😅) and everytime I put the windshield on the bike I get a lot of wind and turbulence right on the top of my helmet, if it was at least 2 inches taller it would be better.
Yeah the buffeting seems to be very rider specific.
I've got $2k and a case of crystal Pepsi... When and where do you wanna do this?
I loved my 2018 Heritage, until I totaled it. I took the insurance money and bought a Road King. To be honest I don’t understand why the heritage is made when the Road King has all of the same exact features and the more comfortable chassis with hard bags.I live in Maryvale so it’s a little bit more of a pain in the ass in stop and go traffic. But when I do the Rocky point rally or I go up to Jerome it’s much nicer on the highway. Plus you can add the lower fairings to the crash bar which would’ve definitely helped you out in that rain.
I just think the Heritage is better power to weight ratio, a little more maneuverable and easier to toss around. I think it has enough of a different look and certainly a different feel on the softail frame than the touring bikes that hits different in a good way for a lot of people. Certainly nothing wrong with your evolution though.
I had a 2018, great bike. I did trade it on my Roadking Special. It handled much better and rode better than my RK.
Do you regret the Road King then or is it just a few observations but you are still happy with the RK?
@@GearsGadgets no regrets, I got the RK for 2 up riding because it has more room. But the Special has shorter shocks and that makes the suspension choppy. The Heritage monoshock is far superior in that area. I was just pointing that out, addition, in the twisties, I live in a mountainous area, the Heritage also is a blast to drive. The jest of my comment was, your bike is a great choice. And with the bigger bagger there are some costs.
I commented on his video that it used to be my favorite Harley . I was being facetious, and it is still my favorite Harley. Good video, thanks. 👍
HAHA thanks man
I wish they still made the Deluxe. The heritage is the only Softail left with full fenders 🥺
I saw his video...Some of his opinions were specific to his combination and individual bike, but the points I agreed with were the fake gas cap, the lack of a second front disk and the added margin. Thing is, it's HDs business model. Build imperfect/incomplete bikes that require customization through their accessories side. Seats are subjective as are windscreens. I'd want a taller windscreen, but I am 6'5 and 34" inseam(I don't care for the blacked out lower part of the screen too). I think the leaking bag is probably an outlier. It's a bike I would consider, but like anything vehicle related, you have to ride it. My only advice to anyone buying any bike or car is get the bike or car that comes closest to what you want and need without have to change much or anything, if that is even possible. Then again, I am more of a function over form person, which would be an outlier in this segment. The bike I would rather start with is a FLHTP or FLHP. 114, 3" travel shocks and RDRS. I don't need an entertainment system or GPS. As long as it has cruise, ABS, handles, stops and goes well, I am good. On top of that, is ride though. I've had 3 fusions and if the suspension isn't up to it, I'm out and next, so it really comes down to a test ride for me. Stay out of the heat on the bike. It's a killer. Rain, I actually ride in it on purpose. Didn't feel that way until I moved here.
Thanks James, I would ride in the rain but most the time the back and forth to work I just dont want to get soaked if I can avoid it. The heat doesn’t bother me TOO much but I don’t like riding longer than 45 minutes or so in it.
Gears & Gadgets I have marine grade rain gear like deadliest catch. As far as heat, I’ve done 117, but I weighed more. For some reason loosing a lot of weight changed my temperature tolerances for the worst.
I agree, the shock is fine. The only problem I have with the Heritage is the fork is way undersprung. It dives like a Pelican if you look at the front brake.
Styling wise, my only issue with it is they all seem to be finished to look like a rusty ol mess you find behind grampas Ford tractor out in the barn. I can wear out my own shit. When I spring for a new bike, I want it to look new and shiny.
Yeah the front fork could have a little more spring to it but I personally dont mind it.
@@GearsGadgets It's like most anything in life. We get used to things. It's only when we compare things that such things stand out.
Thing is, I think the Heritage has the most comfortable ride of the Softies when not on the brakes. That's probably what HD was after.
Doesn't help that STS and I both spend too much time consuming pizza and beer either.
How comfortable are these Heritage Classics for 2 up riding and longer distance stop?
I wouldn't recommend it for 2 up riding beyond local around town / weekend couple hour rides. Anything long distance I would say its not really meant for 2 up. Now in terms of solo riding, I would argue the Heritage is a fine touring bike if you also want something nimble around town.
@@GearsGadgets thanks for the reply.
Last bike with costome seats was a yamaha raider. Both enjoyed that bike bit want to go a different route this go around.
You have any experience with a raider?
Since we were pretty comfortable on the raider, wondering if we would have the same kinda comfort on a Heritage Classic, or maybe the new low rider st that's coming out. Thanks.
Did u have trouble with your speedometer getting foggy when it rains
Haven’t experienced that but also live in the desert.
Took one out then a Road King as well. Road king won but Id definitely ride a Heritage. Harley Scottsdale is probably the best in the Valley too.
Pretty simple ride what you enjoy
You got that right!
I'm 5'6 and get pretty bad head buffeting with the stock windshield.
Yeah seems to be a common issue, I just don't really have it so I'm not complaining.
Both videos are very well done. I dont ride a Harley an dont plan on buying one any time soon. But it was nice ta hear both sides of the coin. Me personally, not a fan of baggers but its a nice bike minus the dummy gas cap. PEACE!!!!!
Thanks Patrick, I appreciate it!!
@@GearsGadgets Bro I was just in The Motorcycle Micks live stream an they wer talking about Shadetree's video an I told them to check you out. PEACE!!!!!
I traded my 22 Pan America in on a 23 Heritage 120th Anniversary edition and the Pan America had better wind protection.
I would suspect that anyone who has bought a Heritage will be butt hurt by Shadetree’s review! I was butt hurt by the things Laidlaw said about my Wide Glide, but I got over it! 👍
lol yeah true. I certainly wasn’t so much butt hurt as I was genuinely convinced for a few minutes that the bike I have put 15,000 miles on might have catfished me and I might own a turd lol. Really his critiques were fair and his presentation is second to none.
Gears & Gadgets I agree! Shadetree reminds me of an old friend who passed a couple of years ago! Gerry, a hardcore NY Italian that looked like he just killed his parents, 🤣 but had a heart of gold, and like the surgeon, could wax poetic with the best of them! 👍
It’s a great bike. Classic and timeless