Exactly!! If it requires me to get anywhere near the ship channel I’m not going!!! Always hated it and always will!! My mom likes to brag how my grands made her learn to drive by forcing her to drive to and from Clinton drive to the ship channel..🤦🏾♀️
He ust jinx Texas…. It will never happen here, it will never happen to me….. all famous last words. Only time will tell. Remember Tampa’s twin bridge in the late 80s…. 35 dead after ship strikes one of the two bridges a takes it down.
@@rafaelrivera9346 ok of the two bridges which one has a higher likelihood of survival. That thing completely collapsed in 10 seconds, not even a chance to get out of your car.
Look, anyone who wants a bridge to be able to catch a ship the size and mass of an aircraft carrier is basically asking for a dam. A damn good dam, at that.
Subtitles starting at 0:57 - "Ahem. Let me tell you something. It was a great bridge, I drove across that bridge last month and I said, wow, what a great bridge, but boy was that barge a loser, I mean what a pig. But the bridges we have here in Texas, I told your commissioner, I said they're the greatest bridges I've ever seen. If that barge comes here and tries ta move one of these bridges, we're gonna win so much we're gonna get tired of winning!"
Love how the video didn’t address the issue at all. Everyone tries to prevent these things. I do not believe there is a bridge in the world that could stand a hit from a Panamax ship like this morning.
It literally happened to the Golden Gate Bridge in 2007. Exact same sized ship. The Golden Gate Bridge has a fender system that reduces the severity of a massive impact. The Bridge sustained practically no damage. Look it up. The Baltimore Bridge was super old. Modern bridges are much more capable of sustaining those hits.
@@yachtyteam6978It literally happened to the Golden Gate Bridge in 2007. Exact same sized ship. The Golden Gate Bridge has a fender system that reduces the severity of a massive impact. The Bridge sustained practically no damage. Look it up. The Baltimore Bridge was super old. Modern bridges are much more capable of sustaining those hits.
They always have the reporters doing dangerous stuff. That man did not need to be walking on that bridge. They did not need footage of him walking on that bridge.
@@mattbosley3531It’s a highway. They’re going at least 75-80 mph. A slight swerve by someone on their phone not paying attention and he’s toast. This is not the same as walking on a sidewalk. Or do you think everyone pays full attention while they drive nowadays?
Show Sidney Sherman some remembrance. The "610 Ship Channel Bridge" is actually called the "Sidney Sherman Bridge". I grew up on that side of town and for years we only had one bridge, so we called it the "ship channel bridge" so it is understandable that unlike the "Fred Hartman Bridge" that many people don't know its name.
Thank you. Sidney Sherman fought at the Battle of San Jacinto. The site of his house was near where the bridge is now, near the south shore of what was Buffalo Bayou (now the Houston Ship Channel.) There is a statue of him in Galveston.
The engineering question isn't so much about how you can make the bridge survive being hit by such a large ship -- you pretty much can't. The question is how can you prevent it from being hit in the first place In the case of these Houston bridges the base of the bridge supports are either surrounded by buffers or located in shallow water near the channel edge so that a ship would hit ground before it could get TO the bridge. The Baltimore bridge supports were sitting out in deep water virtually unprotected --and that's what led to its demise.
0:33 Don’t know how long the bridge will be closed for repairs… The bridge is gone bro. The debris has to be removed and a new bridge built. Initial construction on the bridge started in 1972. It opened in 1977. The removal process is going to take a minute. The rebuilding process probably going to take a few minutes more. What year do you guys estimate? I’m saying 2029.
@Penny-mk7fvclose, but the idea is you put the legs on land or on water so shallow that the ship beaches itself before it could ever reach the legs. That’s why all these people saying “that’s what they said about the titanic too!!1!” sound so dumb-the ship can literally not reach the legs in Houston. Ships could still clip the bridge deck if they were tall enough, but that wouldn’t cause structural failure like it did in Baltimore.
The average weight of a cargo ship is around 165,000 tons. The larger ones weigh up to 220,000 tons The average iceberg weighs between 100,000 and 200,000 tons. Basically the same size. It took a ten second google search. I'm throwing in a preteen juvenile LOL just for you.@@Kyle_Lurz
@@Plutogalaxy From 10 to 40 millions depending of the soil and dept. They don't even have to be anchored, just deposited. And it protects a 900 million + structure. 80% of maritime bridges in the US have them already. Bridges whiteout them are the exception. Blues states are they only states whit still some unprotected bridges. They sure do love their economy being destroyed.
Until the ship is four times larger than the protective low cost box would take and not sure what low cost is since if you don't go to bedrock and anchor it firmly into that, a ocean going ship will move the box like a match box. Mass and speed of any amount will move mountains.
@@gc1172 That technology has been used for 300 years by now. And 80% of maritime bridges in the US uses them already. It does not have to stop the ship, only to skip it right of left, boats like electricity, always take the path of less resistance. The boat will "bounce" on it and change direction 5 to 10 degree's is enough. In the very rare case the ship hits it 100% head on, the ship crumble on the concrete pillars and when the concrete block eventually is backed on the bridge pillar it leaves space for the ship to fold over the pillar without touching the bridge. And yes the pillars is displaced in the process, you simply move it back after. And like I said, it worked for 300 years, and saved thousands of bridges, so pretty much proven technology and improve over time to face higher tonnages.
All these bridges that they say are protected, are they protected from ships of the era when they were built? Or are they protected from the current size of ships???
Right, I would say the same thing for all of the infrastructure in Maryland because I live in Maryland currently and it’s a very historic state. I wonder if all of the buildings and everything else is safe?
I wouldn’t worry about bridges as much as idk the person in charge of the ship itself??? How can they get paid the way they do and accidents and mishaps still happen at the rate they are
The bridge collapsed due to it's design not it's strength. It was a truss design bridge, meaning it's held up by the frame above it, and the pillars channel all the weight to the seabed. It all acts as a singular structure not sectional like a cable stay bridge. So take out it's legs and the entire bridge collapses. It was an old bridge 1970's and a far cheaper and faster to construct design, likely necessary considering the mile and a half distance required to cross the channel. After this event, if another crossing is out on the books it would likely be made a tunnel than a bridge.
That is what they did with the sunshine skyway after a similar incident. They surrounded the pillars with a buffer of dirt and then put rocks around it in addition to concrete bumpers.
Or two pilot boats like Canadian ports that guide ships thay pass under bridges,and required to use. Only cost the shipping company a couple hundred bucks. Chump change.
In Houston? We put the bridge supports on land or made it so shallow the ship would effectively beach itself. You can add layers around the support if you want, but those won’t be as effective as just…not putting the supports in the water in the first place.
The Baltimore bridge looks very flimsy. It was built 50 years ago when ships were a lot smaller. The replacement should be a cable stayed bridge high enough where the ships can't hit it.
Cosco Busan accident didn't destroyed the pier in 2007. It depends on how big are the pier and ship. Suspension bridge usually have large center pier and all the decks are supported by the tension of the cables. And suspension bridge has much longer span. So the pier can be placed at shallower water where the ship can't enter. So relatively suspension bridge is much safer than truss bridge unless the ship is big enough to wipe out the tower. But truss bridge is cheaper to build and can be protected if designed properly. Just that government seems not to be willing to spend money on anything that isn't broken instead of sending money elsewhere.
Fred Hartman Bridge 25 years old... Francis Scott Key Bridge 74 years old.. I'm sure the bridge they build to replace the Key Bridge will be built much better with modern technology, materials, and experts.
The bridges here in Louisville get hit by run away barges all the time, 10 of them got loose and came down the river and got stuck by the locks last week
It was not the upper supports or structure that failed in Baltimore but the foundation or pier support that was knocked over by a 95,000-ton ship moving at about 7 to 8 knots. A solid, reinforced concrete pier is not going to fare well in that instance though it might come out a little better but I doubt it.
Although we've never had an earth quake here in Houston. Are the bridges earth quake proof if that was to happen? I always wondered about that traveling over these bridges.
A super massive cargo chip can be as heavy as 150,000 tons, I'm not sure any bridge can withstand such an impact in a direct hit. The force from something that heavy and the shock wave would be too much.
There was an engineer mentioning how none of our older bridges were even built with our modern massive ships in mind, they had no idea we would eventually be moving bigger ships than what those bridges were designed for
Sir, you don't want a bridge to handle the impact, that's why engineers build huge fenders around the vulnerable points. A fender can easily prevent any ship from impacting the structure.
It is not a matter of standing the impact so much as it is not crumbling like a cookie. If a bridge could sustain a little longer more people might have survived, but six people being killed apparently isn't enough for people to use critical thinking.
Pay China to build a new bridge just like the new steel-structured San Francisco Bay Bridge, constructed by China Communications Construction Company Limited
This guy is crazy. if a ship with that mass that size hit one of those supports that bridge where he is will come down that is so much weight that it will literally push the support out of place even though the bow of the ship may hit it
Port of Los Angeles, California. Known as “America's Port,” the Port of Los Angeles holds the number one spot as the largest port in North America. NOT Houston
Texas thinks *everything* is bigger there. Hmpf! Alaska is 2.5 times the size of Texas, though we only have a population of 710,231, whereas Houston's population is 2,305,889.
@@ronaldlebeck9577 That guy was flat out wrong, unless he's trying to describe some other aspect of it. Busiest and biggest is Port Los Angeles according to Google.
I don't care how strong they think their bridge is. If 200,000 tons of steel takes out 1 support pillar, that span is coming down. All those pillars with cargo ship traffic need outer diversion barriers well away from main support pillars at minimum 100ft from the base and not right ON the base.
Fred Hartman Bridge does not sound as vulnerable since one pylon of same is on lots of ground around it. No ship touching that one. The second pylon has protective extension all around. There is just one image I am able to see the base of the bridge on google map but that pylon can do with few dolphins on both approach. Momentum of large ship can take that one out from base.
Do not see any close up for Galveston Causeway. The satellite images of Galveston Causeway shows no dolphins around the pylons on approach of the causeway. The video does not talk about what is physically present to provide protection. Computer screens far off the pylons do not provide any security.
But look at the base of the pillars. They are in such shallow water at the water's edge that a ship would ground before it could get close to the pillar. The problem with the Baltimore bridge is that the pillars were mere feet away from deep water.
It's not a matter of it standing so much as it is not crumbling within 10 seconds. If it were slower more people might have been able to make it out alive. I mean given that six people were killed i'd think that would be enough motivation for people to probe for those kinda questions, but it clear is not.
Notice the report just talk more and showing the top of the bridge and its cable. The topic is the support underneath and how it's designed show us a video of that since your talk about how better and stronger your bridges are? Plus i bet houston has pilot tugs boats help guide those container ships in and out around those 3 bridges .
Good to know,however...as long as the Army Corps. of Engineers is in town, have the bridge on Shepherd spanning Memorial drive rechecked for Harvey flood damage. Under which ,unknown millions of gallons of high , fast moving Buffalo Bayou waters flowed.
You should be asking why is our infrastructure rotting away and what happened to the Trillion dollars and where are the big rebuild projects happening?
They can no get on it and install huge concrete deflectors in front of the pillions on all of the old bridges now that sill push a crashing barge under it instead of into it. No BS excuses not to do it now.
I’m sorry but there isn’t a bridge that’ll withstand a direct blow to one of its support piers. They’re engineered and placed in their specific locations to be there for a reason. Nothing stands a chance against a 100k + ton load moving at 8 knots. Basics rules of physics you learn in high school…
It's not a matter of withstanding, it's a matter of which would hold up longer allowing more to escape vs being killed seconds. That thing crumbled like a cookie. Kinda funny you mention physics in high school as so juvenile but have little ability to think abstractly.
@christerry1773 crumble like a cookie? Do people not know how live and dead loads work?? No matter how strong your structure is, if you take out the main superstructure, All bridges will crumble like a cookie in a matter of seconds. I think people watch way too many movies and think these collapses happen in minutes and there's time to escape. Plus we're talking about a large cargo ship. I don't Think people understand how large these ships are. They're the size of the empire State building and extremely heavy at that. No, they're going 2 mph. Mass times. Acceleration means it's a lot of force being put on those superstructures
@@christerry1773 Not sure what you can’t understand… This was a main support pier. As the main support got destroyed, it had an affect on the rest of the bridge as different parts of the bridge’s dead loads were heavily impacted and the bridge could no longer accommodate the additional stresses caused by the pier getting struck, hence why the rest of the bridge span collapsed. There is no such thing as a pier design of a bridge to take a direct hit to a main pier from a ship of 220 million pounds moving at 8mph with all its inertia. A bridge’s time of collapse has everything to do with where it was hit and the additional stresses that were passed onto different sections of the bridge. Bridge’s aren’t designed to have time(s) allotted to let those off the bridge before the whole thing falls.. Keep in mind this bridge was built in ‘77 with little known technology. Today bridges have dolphin bridge piers placed in front of the main piers to help ships avoid hitting the main bridge piers; something the Key Bridge did not have.
The issue is not so much could it remain standing, it's the fact the bridge in MD crumbled like a cookie...literally 10 seconds. Would this bridge do the same? Doubtful. People might at least be able to get outside of their car. No one knows how it would actually fair, but compare the two and ask yourself. I would think the fact that six people were killed that quick would spark a little more criticism, but apparently that's of little concern! On a separate note, did Donald Trump make a clone of himself?
Houston is not the busiest port in the United States that belongs to Los Angeles and Long Beach and the second busiest port is Port Newark this guy needs to check😂.
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Because Houston is not cheap like Maryland Maryland’s whole entire state is trash when it comes to government funding they really could learn a thing or two from other states I guess history must always be learned
Security cameras all over including approaches to the bridge, direct contracts for people who were making repairs and this should have only taken minutes to find out by the authorities who are on the ball. clearly something is missing just in gathering basic information. everyone on the work crew should have been accounted for and every car that went up the bridge from both sides and knowing the time stamp the video should have been reviewed within an hour of the police and rescue workers arriving. the working time for someone in the water is less than 30 min. so after 2 hours it should have become a recovery and not a rescue. Again, this shows incompetency on the part of both authorities and rescue workers. This should be on a check list for all disasters. Government is the problem here. Am I wrong?
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He just jinx Texas…. It will never happen here, it will never happen to me….. all famous last words. Only time will tell. Remember Tampa’s twin bridge in the late 80s…. 35 dead after ship strikes one of the two bridges a takes it down.
Yeah yeah yeah..they also said the Titanic wouldn't sink
Exactly!! If it requires me to get anywhere near the ship channel I’m not going!!! Always hated it and always will!! My mom likes to brag how my grands made her learn to drive by forcing her to drive to and from Clinton drive to the ship channel..🤦🏾♀️
He ust jinx Texas…. It will never happen here, it will never happen to me….. all famous last words. Only time will tell. Remember Tampa’s twin bridge in the late 80s…. 35 dead after ship strikes one of the two bridges a takes it down.
And society will NEVER collapse!
@@rafaelrivera9346 ok of the two bridges which one has a higher likelihood of survival. That thing completely collapsed in 10 seconds, not even a chance to get out of your car.
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Thanks for the report, Mr Hasselhoff.
Look, anyone who wants a bridge to be able to catch a ship the size and mass of an aircraft carrier is basically asking for a dam. A damn good dam, at that.
it is not a matter of stopping the ship so much as it holding intact enough so that some may escape. that thing crumbled in less than 10 seconds!!!
Subtitles starting at 0:57 - "Ahem. Let me tell you something. It was a great bridge, I drove across that bridge last month and I said, wow, what a great bridge, but boy was that barge a loser, I mean what a pig. But the bridges we have here in Texas, I told your commissioner, I said they're the greatest bridges I've ever seen. If that barge comes here and tries ta move one of these bridges, we're gonna win so much we're gonna get tired of winning!"
look at 3:30. I had to do a doubletake.
Like a buddy whom was talking up their audi a4. Weird flex.
Love how the video didn’t address the issue at all. Everyone tries to prevent these things. I do not believe there is a bridge in the world that could stand a hit from a Panamax ship like this morning.
huge concrete bumpers could stop impact. mandatory tugs could remedy power loss
@@peetky8645exactly, I’m in Maryland and it was said those were expensive which is why they didn’t have them.
@@journeytoabetteruit would need a crazy barrier to stop almost 100,000 tons (200 million pounds) going a little over 9 mph
It literally happened to the Golden Gate Bridge in 2007. Exact same sized ship. The Golden Gate Bridge has a fender system that reduces the severity of a massive impact. The Bridge sustained practically no damage. Look it up.
The Baltimore Bridge was super old. Modern bridges are much more capable of sustaining those hits.
@@yachtyteam6978It literally happened to the Golden Gate Bridge in 2007. Exact same sized ship. The Golden Gate Bridge has a fender system that reduces the severity of a massive impact. The Bridge sustained practically no damage. Look it up.
The Baltimore Bridge was super old. Modern bridges are much more capable of sustaining those hits.
They always have the reporters doing dangerous stuff. That man did not need to be walking on that bridge. They did not need footage of him walking on that bridge.
Really? You think it's dangerous to walk on a sidewalk now? Paranoid much?
@@mattbosley3531 Nah. Walking on a bridge is dangerous which is why most people pass on it in vehicles and not on foot.
Hahaha...sounds logical
He was not walking in traffic. He was on the shoulder.
@@mattbosley3531It’s a highway. They’re going at least 75-80 mph. A slight swerve by someone on their phone not paying attention and he’s toast. This is not the same as walking on a sidewalk. Or do you think everyone pays full attention while they drive nowadays?
Is it me or do this reporter look like Donald Trump when he played on home alone.🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought the same thing 😂
He looks like Gary Busey
bill trump
Don’t insult the reporter by comparing his looks to Trump.
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Show Sidney Sherman some remembrance. The "610 Ship Channel Bridge" is actually called the "Sidney Sherman Bridge". I grew up on that side of town and for years we only had one bridge, so we called it the "ship channel bridge" so it is understandable that unlike the "Fred Hartman Bridge" that many people don't know its name.
Thank you. Sidney Sherman fought at the Battle of San Jacinto. The site of his house was near where the bridge is now, near the south shore of what was Buffalo Bayou (now the Houston Ship Channel.) There is a statue of him in Galveston.
The engineering question isn't so much about how you can make the bridge survive being hit by such a large ship -- you pretty much can't. The question is how can you prevent it from being hit in the first place In the case of these Houston bridges the base of the bridge supports are either surrounded by buffers or located in shallow water near the channel edge so that a ship would hit ground before it could get TO the bridge. The Baltimore bridge supports were sitting out in deep water virtually unprotected --and that's what led to its demise.
0:33
Don’t know how long the bridge will be closed for repairs…
The bridge is gone bro.
The debris has to be removed and a new bridge built.
Initial construction on the bridge started in 1972.
It opened in 1977.
The removal process is going to take a minute.
The rebuilding process probably going to take a few minutes more.
What year do you guys estimate?
I’m saying 2029.
This isnt a humble brag, this is an omen. I would not have done this piece.
Houstons definitely next
Not so sure brigdes can stand that kind of weight when hit with it.
@Penny-mk7fvclose, but the idea is you put the legs on land or on water so shallow that the ship beaches itself before it could ever reach the legs. That’s why all these people saying “that’s what they said about the titanic too!!1!” sound so dumb-the ship can literally not reach the legs in Houston. Ships could still clip the bridge deck if they were tall enough, but that wouldn’t cause structural failure like it did in Baltimore.
The idea is that it wouldn't collapse in 10 freakin seconds. I thought the fact that six people were killed would mean something, but apparently not.
The bridge piles are in really shallow water. Ships would run aground long before they reached them.
They said the Titanic wouldn't sink. I hope your bridge bragging doesn't get put to the test.
That cargo ship is like 1/100 size of the iceberg lol
The average weight of a cargo ship is around 165,000 tons. The larger ones weigh up to 220,000 tons The average iceberg weighs between 100,000 and 200,000 tons. Basically the same size. It took a ten second google search. I'm throwing in a preteen juvenile LOL just for you.@@Kyle_Lurz
Well which of the bridges would you feel safer on.
@@christerry1773 Only a fool would feel safe on any bridge when something that large is about to hit it.
Bulding concrete protective box in front of each pillar is low cost and very efficient.
@@Plutogalaxy From 10 to 40 millions depending of the soil and dept. They don't even have to be anchored, just deposited. And it protects a 900 million + structure.
80% of maritime bridges in the US have them already. Bridges whiteout them are the exception. Blues states are they only states whit still some unprotected bridges. They sure do love their economy being destroyed.
@@Plutogalaxy Why ... for you 🤣🤣🤣
Was shcooled in Canada, way way more blue then any US states.
Until the ship is four times larger than the protective low cost box would take and not sure what low cost is since if you don't go to bedrock and anchor it firmly into that, a ocean going ship will move the box like a match box. Mass and speed of any amount will move mountains.
@@gc1172 That technology has been used for 300 years by now. And 80% of maritime bridges in the US uses them already. It does not have to stop the ship, only to skip it right of left, boats like electricity, always take the path of less resistance. The boat will "bounce" on it and change direction 5 to 10 degree's is enough. In the very rare case the ship hits it 100% head on, the ship crumble on the concrete pillars and when the concrete block eventually is backed on the bridge pillar it leaves space for the ship to fold over the pillar without touching the bridge. And yes the pillars is displaced in the process, you simply move it back after. And like I said, it worked for 300 years, and saved thousands of bridges, so pretty much proven technology and improve over time to face higher tonnages.
All these bridges that they say are protected, are they protected from ships of the era when they were built? Or are they protected from the current size of ships???
Right, I would say the same thing for all of the infrastructure in Maryland because I live in Maryland currently and it’s a very historic state. I wonder if all of the buildings and everything else is safe?
I wouldn’t worry about bridges as much as idk the person in charge of the ship itself??? How can they get paid the way they do and accidents and mishaps still happen at the rate they are
The bridge collapsed due to it's design not it's strength. It was a truss design bridge, meaning it's held up by the frame above it, and the pillars channel all the weight to the seabed. It all acts as a singular structure not sectional like a cable stay bridge. So take out it's legs and the entire bridge collapses. It was an old bridge 1970's and a far cheaper and faster to construct design, likely necessary considering the mile and a half distance required to cross the channel. After this event, if another crossing is out on the books it would likely be made a tunnel than a bridge.
The bridge is only as good as the supports holding it up. Do we need added layers around the supports to deflect and protect them🤔
That is what they did with the sunshine skyway after a similar incident. They surrounded the pillars with a buffer of dirt and then put rocks around it in addition to concrete bumpers.
Or two pilot boats like Canadian ports that guide ships thay pass under bridges,and required to use. Only cost the shipping company a couple hundred bucks. Chump change.
In Houston? We put the bridge supports on land or made it so shallow the ship would effectively beach itself. You can add layers around the support if you want, but those won’t be as effective as just…not putting the supports in the water in the first place.
The Baltimore bridge looks very flimsy. It was built 50 years ago when ships were a lot smaller. The replacement should be a cable stayed bridge high enough where the ships can't hit it.
Haven’t been back home to Houston in years but are we talking about the bridge at the Port of Houston and the bridge going into Baytown…ummm no
we used to have a tunnel under the ship channel to baytown !
Cosco Busan accident didn't destroyed the pier in 2007. It depends on how big are the pier and ship. Suspension bridge usually have large center pier and all the decks are supported by the tension of the cables. And suspension bridge has much longer span. So the pier can be placed at shallower water where the ship can't enter. So relatively suspension bridge is much safer than truss bridge unless the ship is big enough to wipe out the tower. But truss bridge is cheaper to build and can be protected if designed properly. Just that government seems not to be willing to spend money on anything that isn't broken instead of sending money elsewhere.
Fred Hartman Bridge 25 years old... Francis Scott Key Bridge 74 years old.. I'm sure the bridge they build to replace the Key Bridge will be built much better with modern technology, materials, and experts.
The FSK Bridge was *47* years old.
Yup 47 years
The Francis Scott Key bridge opened in 1977. 2024-1977 does not equal 74. It is 47.
You're correct! I mistyped sorry
The bridges here in Louisville get hit by run away barges all the time, 10 of them got loose and came down the river and got stuck by the locks last week
Have they been hit by something that big? That ship was enormous. Doubt anything could withstand that.
It was not the upper supports or structure that failed in Baltimore but the foundation or pier support that was knocked over by a 95,000-ton ship moving at about 7 to 8 knots. A solid, reinforced concrete pier is not going to fare well in that instance though it might come out a little better but I doubt it.
Although we've never had an earth quake here in Houston. Are the bridges earth quake proof if that was to happen? I always wondered about that traveling over these bridges.
A super massive cargo chip can be as heavy as 150,000 tons, I'm not sure any bridge can withstand such an impact in a direct hit. The force from something that heavy and the shock wave would be too much.
There was an engineer mentioning how none of our older bridges were even built with our modern massive ships in mind, they had no idea we would eventually be moving bigger ships than what those bridges were designed for
Sir, you don't want a bridge to handle the impact, that's why engineers build huge fenders around the vulnerable points. A fender can easily prevent any ship from impacting the structure.
It is not a matter of standing the impact so much as it is not crumbling like a cookie. If a bridge could sustain a little longer more people might have survived, but six people being killed apparently isn't enough for people to use critical thinking.
Pay China to build a new bridge just like the new steel-structured San Francisco Bay Bridge, constructed by China Communications Construction Company Limited
This guy is crazy. if a ship with that mass that size hit one of those supports that bridge where he is will come down that is so much weight that it will literally push the support out of place even though the bow of the ship may hit it
Port of Los Angeles, California. Known as “America's Port,” the Port of Los Angeles holds the number one spot as the largest port in North America. NOT Houston
Texas thinks *everything* is bigger there. Hmpf! Alaska is 2.5 times the size of Texas, though we only have a population of 710,231, whereas Houston's population is 2,305,889.
@@ronaldlebeck9577 That guy was flat out wrong, unless he's trying to describe some other aspect of it. Busiest and biggest is Port Los Angeles according to Google.
@@GaliSinatra Yeah, I know he was. I wonder if the port in LA ever got the huge backlog of cargo ships that had been anchored out waiting to unload.
Houston is bigger by tonnage of freight
@@mikecasey3499that's a lie. Houston is fifth.
Yeah until it's not 😏
I don't care how strong they think their bridge is. If 200,000 tons of steel takes out 1 support pillar, that span is coming down. All those pillars with cargo ship traffic need outer diversion barriers well away from main support pillars at minimum 100ft from the base and not right ON the base.
The issue is would i have a higher chance at surviving on Maryland bridge or this one in TX.
Fred Hartman Bridge does not sound as vulnerable since one pylon of same is on lots of ground around it. No ship touching that one. The second pylon has protective extension all around. There is just one image I am able to see the base of the bridge on google map but that pylon can do with few dolphins on both approach. Momentum of large ship can take that one out from base.
Do not see any close up for Galveston Causeway. The satellite images of Galveston Causeway shows no dolphins around the pylons on approach of the causeway. The video does not talk about what is physically present to provide protection. Computer screens far off the pylons do not provide any security.
What a weird flex.
So now we are going to test that one?
I've been driving truck over that bridge to La Porte of Houston Texas one big bridge eight Lanes got brake checked on that one time
Let's put it to the test😅
Yeah, they always say that in Texas. Their power system was so much better too,until the temperature dropped
Not the frist time sure as hell not the last time
What about the London Bridge? and the Sydney Harbour Bridge?
From the look of the bridge small pillar's structure, no way it can withstand crash by the large containers ship.
I don't think container ships go past these bridges. They go to Bayport or Barbours Cut.
But look at the base of the pillars. They are in such shallow water at the water's edge that a ship would ground before it could get close to the pillar. The problem with the Baltimore bridge is that the pillars were mere feet away from deep water.
There is no bridge, ship, or building that can take on mother nature
The strongest bridge is just empty words
Do not cut cost & cut corner(s)....And always compulsory the tug boat(s) escort the big ship pass thru any Houston's shipping bridge(s). PERIOD
How do you think the meth would get to Baytown without a good bridge?
Bill Spencer is a cargo ship that size with that weight hit one of those peers. I hate to say this, but I can’t see that bridge standing.
It's not a matter of it standing so much as it is not crumbling within 10 seconds. If it were slower more people might have been able to make it out alive. I mean given that six people were killed i'd think that would be enough motivation for people to probe for those kinda questions, but it clear is not.
Those Houston bridges look sturdier
300 million ton ship with foward momentum nothing gonna stop it not even your bridges
Baltimore bridge collapse is Suspicious to me. Way too many things happening lately to America’s supply chain
Lol sure
😂
Notice the report just talk more and showing the top of the bridge and its cable. The topic is the support underneath and how it's designed show us a video of that since your talk about how better and stronger your bridges are?
Plus i bet houston has pilot tugs boats help guide those container ships in and out around those 3 bridges .
Would the bridge still hold up if a plane crashes on those types of highways, lots of unsolved questions
I like how they cover...
Never trust what anyone says. Houston bridge can go down too.
So u think. Idc what kind of structure it is. U have a 950' boat at full load it's knocking the piller down along with the bridge
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The Jinx God
Good to know,however...as long as the Army Corps. of Engineers is in town, have the bridge on Shepherd spanning Memorial drive rechecked for Harvey flood damage. Under which ,unknown millions of gallons of high , fast moving Buffalo Bayou waters flowed.
You should be asking why is our infrastructure rotting away and what happened to the Trillion dollars and where are the big rebuild projects happening?
Not likely. 100,000 tons moving at 10 knots is not something easily stopped.
Like ‘the electrical grid’ is fine.
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That's why they didn't crash THOSE.
Only one way to find out! 😅
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Go after the guy that designed it and said that because it looks like he lied
Well, maybe Houston isn't a DEI city yet.
Yes. But is this a truss bridge around 1.5 miles long with columns in central the waterway ?
Apparently not 6 point anchor system remember. 6. Failed
Impossible
So very sad. A tragedy.
They can no get on it and install huge concrete deflectors in front of the pillions on all of the old bridges now that sill push a crashing barge under it instead of into it. No BS excuses not to do it now.
Whatever. I’ll be finding another way to get across the water.
Well, for you scaredy cats, there's always the Washburn Tunnel and the San Jacinto Tunnel. Not sure if they can pass tractor-trailer rigs though.
This was really bad taste, guys
This is such propaganda.
Homie just compared two significantly different types of bridges and came to a conclusion based on anecdotes.
I’m sorry but there isn’t a bridge that’ll withstand a direct blow to one of its support piers. They’re engineered and placed in their specific locations to be there for a reason. Nothing stands a chance against a 100k + ton load moving at 8 knots. Basics rules of physics you learn in high school…
It's not a matter of withstanding, it's a matter of which would hold up longer allowing more to escape vs being killed seconds. That thing crumbled like a cookie. Kinda funny you mention physics in high school as so juvenile but have little ability to think abstractly.
@christerry1773 crumble like a cookie? Do people not know how live and dead loads work?? No matter how strong your structure is, if you take out the main superstructure, All bridges will crumble like a cookie in a matter of seconds. I think people watch way too many movies and think these collapses happen in minutes and there's time to escape. Plus we're talking about a large cargo ship. I don't Think people understand how large these ships are. They're the size of the empire State building and extremely heavy at that. No, they're going 2 mph. Mass times. Acceleration means it's a lot of force being put on those superstructures
@@christerry1773 Not sure what you can’t understand… This was a main support pier. As the main support got destroyed, it had an affect on the rest of the bridge as different parts of the bridge’s dead loads were heavily impacted and the bridge could no longer accommodate the additional stresses caused by the pier getting struck, hence why the rest of the bridge span collapsed. There is no such thing as a pier design of a bridge to take a direct hit to a main pier from a ship of 220 million pounds moving at 8mph with all its inertia. A bridge’s time of collapse has everything to do with where it was hit and the additional stresses that were passed onto different sections of the bridge. Bridge’s aren’t designed to have time(s) allotted to let those off the bridge before the whole thing falls.. Keep in mind this bridge was built in ‘77 with little known technology. Today bridges have dolphin bridge piers placed in front of the main piers to help ships avoid hitting the main bridge piers; something the Key Bridge did not have.
Texas bragging about bridges yet texas power grid fails cuz of snow be proud of those bridges
these bridge videos are now trending😂
That’s a bold claim!!!!!
SO UH
IF I CRASH MY 90K FORD TRUCK INTO A PILLER
SO UH DO I CALL THE COAST GUARD?
The issue is not so much could it remain standing, it's the fact the bridge in MD crumbled like a cookie...literally 10 seconds. Would this bridge do the same? Doubtful. People might at least be able to get outside of their car. No one knows how it would actually fair, but compare the two and ask yourself. I would think the fact that six people were killed that quick would spark a little more criticism, but apparently that's of little concern! On a separate note, did Donald Trump make a clone of himself?
Houston is not the busiest port in the United States that belongs to Los Angeles and Long Beach and the second busiest port is Port Newark this guy needs to check😂.
So avoid the ship channel
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Predictive programming?
Because Houston is not cheap like Maryland Maryland’s whole entire state is trash when it comes to government funding they really could learn a thing or two from other states I guess history must always be learned
From the back spencer dude looks like trump... lol
Security cameras all over including approaches to the bridge, direct contracts for people who were making repairs and this should have only taken minutes to find out by the authorities who are on the ball. clearly something is missing just in gathering basic information. everyone on the work crew should have been accounted for and every car that went up the bridge from both sides and knowing the time stamp the video should have been reviewed within an hour of the police and rescue workers arriving. the working time for someone in the water is less than 30 min. so after 2 hours it should have become a recovery and not a rescue. Again, this shows incompetency on the part of both authorities and rescue workers. This should be on a check list for all disasters. Government is the problem here. Am I wrong?
one way to find out ...
China needs to teach the USA how to make proper infrastructure projects big TIME 😮
Don’t mention China here 😂
Really?
Brag much!?
For God's sake DON'T PROVE IT!!!
Lol, yea just like the twin towers were built to withstand the impact of a plane right?...😂😂😂
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Bill. Fix ya wig
Wanna bet?
people died
Texas news channel: yes people died but look at us our bridge’s are better lol wth
Lol. Gloating
Hard to believe but oooooook if they say so
This sounds more like bragging
He just jinx Texas…. It will never happen here, it will never happen to me….. all famous last words. Only time will tell. Remember Tampa’s twin bridge in the late 80s…. 35 dead after ship strikes one of the two bridges a takes it down.