Simmons Titan 50 First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Today I'm talking about the Simmons Titan 50, is it worth the price?
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And youre choice between Nitro Max and Titan 50 would be?
@@jean-philippedionne6686 The Simmons
One of the nice surprises on this kit is the ability to do USB midi and AUDIO. Unusual to get audio over USB at this price point.
Midi over bluetooth is cool too to play garage band on my old mini ipad
@@MrBeen992 Yes, that is handy. You can use an iPad 9th generation or below with GarageBand as a module using one cable! See AlternativeDrummers channel for more info.
Just tested it with my iPad and it works perfectly. Now I can record a great sounding drum part and lay some guitar down on it without f’ing around with a laptop DAW and all the hookups. I can do all this with one cable and zero dongles!! Finally!
Works with EZdrummer as well.
Really surprised with the quality of the drum sounds. Wasn't expecting that. Great review as always!
I have not drummed for 50 years. I played in rock bands and had my own dance band waaaay back. I am looking for something inexpensive to fool around on. Thanks for the great reviews, it is helping me with my direction and buying one.
Yasss love to see it. About time something kicks the beginner drum market in the behind.
just bought this as my first ever electronic drum kit. So far I'm pretty pleased with it.
my very first e drum kit was a used simmons sd350. it was barely more than a toy, but it was enough to scratch the drumming itch until i could graduate to better gear. this looks like an even more proper entry level set
Thanks for doing the review. Helpful
Another great review from Justin . To all out there , I have this set with the expansion kit .
You dial up any song without drums on you tube and it beautifuly blends them together .
Snare is killer , feels amazing .
Rim shot is epic .
Bass kick is fat , punchy .
It's a blast to play and acousticly , it's pretty quiet .
BUY IT !
I’m a guitar player but always thought I should of played drums. I was at guitar center and stumbled upon this set and fell in love. I didn’t bring it home but I will soon.
Very nice! Get more peeps to play. I am glad they worked on the sounds.
You are awesome Justin
If I was just starting this would be my choice. Great module at this price level.
EXCELLENT VIDEO . Direct and to the point. Moves quickly but doesn’t skimp on important info.
Drummer to drummer you talked about nearly exactly what the drummer wants to know, with no filler.
You showed the sounds and the hardware clearly and straight on. Again, just the way a drummer would want to see it.
After watching more that TEN videos about eDrums at this price point, it was THIS video that showed me CLEARLY why this is the one that I would prefer.
Enough for me to open a browser window and pull the trigger on a set of the Simmons immediately, and without hardly any worry at all.
😎👍👍
Agreed, 100%... Mind if I ask how you feel about this kit now after purchasing?
@@Rompler_Rocco - Most fun $380 I ever spent. And using the MIDI out to trigger EZ Drummer and such makes it more of a serious tool for recording. All good!
@@danepaulstewart8464 Thank you! Very glad to hear that. Thanks for answering!
great video Justin, excellent quality. around 6:52 you refer to a dual zone ride. i have not purchased this kit yet myself. i thought all cymbols were single zone. does it come with a dual zone ride ?
This looks like an awesome budget entry. Sounds are excellent, for the price but still sounds big and punchy! Glad someone is implementing the phone app thing too, Yamaha did it on older modules but not on the currently once. This should be more of a thing imho.
I don't understand why a edrum manufacturer has not gone app based. Or came set up to work (plug n play) with a laptop or tablet.
Alesis tried with the DM Dock awhile back, it never caught on
@@richardpuckett8127 As Justin said, Alesis tried that with the DM dock. But tablet software wasn't up to task back then. Latency was huge with that thing and they sounds weren't even that rich in layers. But with the M1 chips now in iPads, I think they'd fair better if they tried again. The risk being is that tablet/computer tech moves so fast, something modern within 3 years might be lacking.
yeeeaaahhh !!!!! great video !
All in all, it seems like a pretty damn good value. The tradeoffs are reasonable. The realism at this price point is impressive.
Yeah I like to see progress on the budget side of things, and the sound quality here is very much improved over what they used to offer
I'm only 5'7", so the height thing wouldn't bother me. But it sucks for taller people. I'm 43 years old, but a lot of teenagers might tower over me.
Can you do a video explaining how the bluetooth function and recording works? Also, would it sound ok if I used Beats Studios for the headphones? I’m getting this kit on Sunday as an early Christmas gift and also as my first drum kit!
This is THE kit Ive decided on, as soon as i raise the money, this sounds like just what I want
I have the Simmons SD600. I hate the module. Looks like the Titan module is better. No matter, I ditched the Simmons module for a Roland TD17. What an improvement. Everything works fine except I had to get a Roland hi hat cymbal and pedal to be able to open and close the hi hat. One other thing is that I had to rig something to mount the Roland module to the Simmons rack. Some thing I find annoying about Simmons is that my almost twice expensive SD600 kit only came with a single zone ride. I plan on replacing that with a Lemon triple zone ride.
Thanks for the video. Would you consider this to be an option for a church on a budget?
Really impressed with the built in sounds. The bass drum sounds fat! Definitely might buy this kit.
I have a roland drum set that's about 15 years old still works fine and use it for practice
I’ve played on a Roland kit for about 9 years. I can tell you this kid sounds just as good for about half the price.
Still using my SD1000, like brand new. I dont beat the hell out of it
@65Drums In the video you say that Simmons might come out with an option to replace the stock kits with one really good kit. It’s been about a year. Have they done this? I read the manual but don’t see it there. Thanks and great videos!
Check the website, they explain it all there. The manual doesn’t talk about the extra stuff you can download from the website to my knowledge.
Good to know! It definitely seems like it's worth it to at least save up and get a bit more expensive kit, vs spending the money on a cheap kit. Yeah a nicer kit might be 2-3 times more, but then you don't have to replace the cheap kit with the same, or more expensive later.
I have a sd500 for practicing late, you think this is worth upgrading to? Are rubber feet on the bottom of the tubes easily removable? I made 4 risers on a lathe to bring the height up, not just the snare was too low, raised the whole rack up about 3.5 inches.
I tried out the Titan at a GC yesterday. One thing that I noticed was when I hit the ride cymbal or open hi-hat and let it ring, that ringing immediately stopped or went way down in volume when I hit the bass drum pad, and possibly also happened when I hit the snare. Almost as if there was a polyphony issue like what you'd find with cheap or older keyboards. The cymbals and hi-hat didn't seem as loud when I played a beat vs. just hitting them alone. I asked the salesperson about this, and he said maybe the module just needed some configuration adjustments. Your review didn't mention this problem, nor did I hear it in the sound samples, so maybe the unit you tried didn't have this issue. The speaker I was playing through was also set on a low volume, so I don't know if this was part of the problem.
Was there any delay playing through a loudspeaker? My sd500 is impossible to play through my simmons loudspeaker because of ridiculous delay?
Has Simmons finally got the drum kits on the website seeings this was made in 2022 ....... I think thats a HUGE selling point ........ Love to get rid of the "crap" & replace it with usable drum sounds
What is a good set that is a step up from this one? Middle of the road set.
What is the best DAW for a recording beginner that will integrate with an e-kit and use EZ Drummer for additional sounds and allow me to record demos with “rock instrumentation” (guitar, bass, drums, vox, maybe keys)?
Whats with the glitchy non-smooth motion in the app? (4.0 to 4.45) Is that just an artifact of screen-capping or is the App glitchy like it appears in this video?
What do you think about Aroma Drum Electric?
Just checked. Simmons Drum 2 is now available for Android.
It’s nice to see that Simmons is actually trying again with better kits compared to the kits from the 2000s - 2010s.
I got a alesis nitro now and a Roland td6v and I've had a td25 and all sorts of others,alesis dm10 blah blah blah etc etc etc,i scored s titan 50 at Pawnshop just now for $90 just because it was a deal and the tones blow away most kits for death metal and rock..I'm having fun playig again on a electric kit.
All 10 pads and nicer cymbals and I'd be completely happy.
Gonna put my Roland cymbals on it.
Ohh the rack is kinda puny but being square tubes helps a lot and it'll do.
I'm playing fast stuff and 0 double triggers or cross talk,I'm still super shocked and if the Titan 70 is the same but better,it'll be in my future for the price..I'm using a Yamaha kp120 kick on it and its perfect.
I think that raising the legs with some kind of shoe would be easier to raise the kit
As of March 2024, there is an Android version of Simmons Drums 2. Looks like it was released in December 2023.
Hey thanks for the vid man, I'm curious if anyone knows how this would work with fl studios? I can only seem to get my input as a single track ( whether it be through audio cable or usb) and can't figure out how to,
1. Have every pad be a different track
And
2. Make it so my playback sounds are samples or sounds from fl studios and not the built in sounds from the titan.
Or is what I'm trying to do only able through midi cable? Also have a scarlet 2i2 to run midi just don't have any cables that could go from a 5 prong to a 3 prong. So I've only been able to try using a normal quarter inch audio cable or the USB cable so far.
Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I'm new to all this so if anyone has any info or tips it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Will it work using Addictive Drums 2 using midi into my computer?
I never thought of getting a snare stand to overcome the height issue, thanks! The set does come with a drum key btw.
Its easier to put some shoes on the l÷gs to raise the kit
Triggers EZdrummer 3 very good also!
How do you know ?
@@Neightlive all modules nowadays have usb midi
Looking to get a kit for my 10yo son. I can't decide between the titan 50, the Sd1250, or Roland TD-17KV or 17kvx. We're talking $450, $850, $1050, and $1500. I dont want to be upgrading or wishing I got him something better in 2-5 years
which one did you pick?
Has anyone had the Titan for a long time and could tell me if the quality holds up or have parts broken?
Omg you have star trek pants?
Are you in la? I would a star trek pants wearing band!
What’s better the 50 or the 600?
wish these were available in the UK (not imported price version).
Yeah, I feel the same about Millennium
Can we able to attach double kick pedal ?
I think there is a new king as of the past 2 years. The Millenium MPS 750x. What are your thoughts Justin? Also how do think this module compares to the Millenium mps 750x?
When i said value king, I meant for $300-400. The Millenium MPS750X looks interesting, they don't sell them in music stores in my country though, so I'll probably never see one in real life
@@65Drums Cool thanks for all that you do my friend. would be awesome for someone to see how they stack up against each other.
Decent review..
what's the latency of the bluetooth midi?
What is better for you: Alesis surge special edition or simmons titan 50? I'm interested in buying one of them. Thanks for this video
Yo which one did u get? Is it good?
I got Titan 50, it’s a very cheap kit. I had to adjust sensivity settings for bass drum and cymbals and it works very good. I upgrade the module and install the free packs from the Simmons website. The sounds are very good. Snare and tons are perfect
@@sergioandresrodriguezcor-nf6mknice, I just ordered the Titan, which module did you upgrade to.
Let's 🔥
If you had to choose between this and an expanded SD600 that's less than $500, which would you pick?
Stay away from the sd600. I've had a sd1250 for a while, it's ok at best. The sd600 i bought this past Saturday for our practice place. It's hot garbage. The cymbals are single zone and only the crash can be choked. Doubt they'll ever have the sd600 out of the box for demo.... it's that bad
@@brushymountain1 I've had the SD600 for a couple months now. I was a total beginner, but now I want a TD27 for the digital ride snare and hi hat. But that's 7 times more expensive!
its now 480 on amazon
Cant find where to buy Simmons drums anywhere in Australia.
Guitar center owns simmons
Bass drum only lasted 6 months... I'm disappointed to the fact I can't use my Axis Long boards Double pedals but, my Tama Dynasync works...
Did the whole kick system get destroyed? Or was it just the foam?
If you had $500 to spend on a used e-drum set in good shape, what set would you choose ?
A used Roland off FB marketplace
Clicked on the edrumcenter link. They don't list this product at all (or any Simmons drums).
Yup only stores owned by Guitar Center sells Simmons
@@65Drums Then why do you include a link -- with a $25 coupon! -- to a site that doesn't sell them?
@@frankjkelly6987 Frank it's a standard advertising spot I include in many of my videos. It's to pay the bills so I can even afford to make reviews in the first place. Most of the time the brands I review are sold at EdrumCenter, this brand is exclusive to guitar center so it can't be sold there. Sorry about the confusion
@@65Drums Got it. Thanks!
Why is it not hexagonal shaped though? It looks too generic with the round shape.
Any this is why you don't watch reviews on other companies takes on things you already own, GODDAMN IT I COULD'VE GOTTEN THIS
Its kinda funny that Simmons didnt send a review kit to a highly regarded youtube channel in this day and age, considering this may be the best bang for buck kit theyve ever released.
They've sent other drums that I didn't like as much. But they didn't send this kit that I actually REALLY do like lol. I have no idea why
@65Drums lol Silly Simmons at it again
Dude, you used Alternate Drummers review footage for your review.....what's up with that?
I wasn’t aware it was his footage. I got that video clip from the official Simmons website. I’ll update the description to credit him now
Anyone know if you can import samples?
Not now, but if it will import new kits it should be fairly easy to implement
Man I know Simmons were pioneers of electronic drums.. but the ones I saw at guitar center looked like I could sneeze on it and smash it to pieces.
There’s a long complicated history behind that. This is not the same Simmons from the 80s. It’s Just a brand name now. But also keep in mind, all $400 e-drum sets look like you could sneeze on them and they break. The good electronic drums are expensive unfortunately.
@@65Drums yes I did see in another video where you spoke about that in fact. Shameful company rip off.
People who have the titan 50 are lucky even if the Bell is on the edge, I have the nitro mesh and it doesn’t have a bell
It doesn't matter if you add more cymbals or drums or even the quality sound , the thing is how you play the drums, skill and technique is the secret, enjoy while drumming and have fun
Is this ok for live church setting?
maybe for a tiny church with an extremely small budget. If you want a drum set that will last for many years of multiple drummers playing it, get a higher end kit from a Japanese brand like Roland or Yamaha.
@@65Drums Thank you. Is VAD 307 a good one? Or any recommendation?
I just scored 1 at the pawnshop for $90,the sounds blow away my Roland td6v for metal..I'm actually having fun playing electric drums again.
Well to be fair, the TD6 came out in 2006 :) great deal on that kit. Pawnshops around me over charge for edrums like crazy
@@65Drums but playing death metal I like the kick sound on the td3 better than the td6v,so date has some to do with it but the tones for what I want are just so much better..I got it sounding like I'm using Vinney Paul's live kit lol.
It's not clicky and fast sounding,it sounds huge.
I didn't care for the td25 that much either and having more fun with the Titan 50 lol.
@@65Drums probably use Roland cymbals with it and I got my Yamaha kp120 kick on it and love it.
Factory kick is ok but this 12 in Yamaha is really nice on it.
And I got it that cheap cause it was a lay away drop out and they just wanted the remainder of what was owed.
So it made it better than what it would of been.
Guy called as I was buying em too cause he wanted to come get them and another thing he had in lay away and I'm glad he didn't.
Is this still the best for beginners?
It's still a good drum set for beginners yes
Okay because I haven’t played since high school and dabbled with a small set in 2000. Guess I’ll have to practice a lot! 😜😜😜
How does this compare with the Roland TD-1DMK?
I like this one more
@@65Drums hey thank you so much for the reply, hadn’t seen it till now lol
Why don't they just pay a programmer to transfer iOS program to Linux Android. Can't be that expensive to get something up and running.
KAT KT4
What about it ?
See now this is what I'm talking about.
If Simmons did this for under $400, why is the TD02KV SO lacking that I actually feel insulted as a consumer ?
The fact that you can "just plug in your USB to any daw, and record" is just plain false you'll most likely spend an hour or two just trying to get the drums to play through your daw. And you might even have to reset all the samples for each individual pad. It's not that simple, I've owned one of these kits for bout 2 months now and setting up a daw with this kit is not some easy plug-n-play setup.
Where can I get instructions for that? I just purchase this kit and I thought it was easy
"Most of our users only use iphones" and... it will stay that way, if you don't have Android apps, because people will simply not buy your product! It something that will never change.
Odd statement about android vs ios. Android phones make up 70% of the smart phone market to IOS 28%.
Yes Android has a much larger market share. But as Loki said, iphones are wildly popular in the USA. And musicians seem to own more apple gear than the public at large. I still think they should make an app for both though. When I owned Samsung and One Plus phones, I was locked out of some of the e-drum apps out at the time
Yerp we Americans don't care what the others use 😆😉😘
@@a.m.5439 Japanese companies like Roland and Yamaha make iphone only apps too ;)
Fruit rots.
Yea, I've made apps that work on both, it's really not that hard and i thought ios deployment was a much bigger pita
Simmons has always been famous for their cheap "Guitar Hero/RockBand style drum sets LoL
You must be very young... actually Simmons has always been vary famous for being THE SIGNATURE DRUM SOUND of 80s music.
iphone only = no buy
Just for the app, you don't need it at all, it's just a nice to have feature
Too expensive for a multi million dollar company to make an android app? I feel that a iPhone is too expensive for me to purchase, so I have android.
Won't touch Simmons with a 10 foot pole. Quality so bad they dont survive a month in Guitar Center.
Hi guutar center employee ✋
@@MrBeen992 Why would anyone work with those bankrupt Aholes is beyond me. They don't even keep their stores clean.
Those USB aren’t what I’m used to.