10:50 big mistake giving her any money. Because of course she will demand more. Never give up your passport !! The more serpentza videos I see the less I have any desire to go to China.
I sadly already parted ways with the thought of visiting N Korea or China ever in my life. N Korea - You can literally be called out for anything and your next 15 years of your life will be forced labor every single day until you either die or get some bad disease. China - People naturally hate you and want to scam you no matter the nationality. It's fucking disgusting.
You’ve successfully put me off ever going to China. I’ve lived in West Africa, Qatar, Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia and Ireland and have never had any such challenges with the people with the exception of one bar fight in East Malaysia. It really sounds like a roll of the dice as to what’s going to happen to you as a foreigner there, especially myself being an American. Thanks for the education!
Yeah, I took a trip to Chengdu for a week. Visiting a friend, she bought a battery at a street vendor to recharge her camera. It failed right away, and her reaction told me everything I need to know about how common counterfeiting is in China, "meh".
shortmemory well, there should be mentioned as well that also Chinese citizens are amongst victims. I would say that described cases are not typically Chinese, but just normal for places where people try to take advantage from others.
And there happens to be a lot of those places in China...There are countless examples of this including some very high profile cases. And yes, the victims of Chinese scams are usually Chinese.
ok first off, for anyone watching. If you are in a foreign country like china, and you get intimidated to render your passport and someone says you cant leave the country because they have your passport. immediately go to your Embassy and inform them to what happen. the Embassy has many ties with many high up people in that country and they know a few people here and there , because thats what they do. thats why its an embassy. There was a woman american living in Japan, and similar thing has happened to her. the embassy called in a few people, and they had a stern talk with the people the woman pointed out. those people never bothered her again. The Embassy have special people that deal with this kind of stuff in foreign countries. Also when ever you go to ANY foreign country, ALWAYS know where your embassy is, always...
Exactly, that's why we have diplomacies and how you solve matters in a developed nation whereas 3rd world countries resort to blackmail, extortion and threats.
My heart goes out to you. I am so glad you have put it all behind you. So sorry about the high cost however it seems things could have been far worse. (ridiculous enough as it was) Good luck and best wishes to you and your new girlfriend. The respectful way you held it together to convey your encounter with dignity speaks highly of your true character. You don’t lose pride and decency as fast and easy as with money. The money stolen from you will be a bad omen to those who receive it. Trust me it will do your savage suitors no good. Not because I or anyone else innately believes this; it is the writing on their wall...their fate. Keep safe from here on out and may you be blessed, young man.
Moral of the story: 1. Don't blindly give out personal documents (ID, passport, etc). 2. Don't ever give money for settlement without documenting it (signing a document, videotaping it, etc).
@@aikeber1984 I was going to say the same thing. Tbh this guy in the blue got played and is pretty dumb which cost him big time. First of all he should've charged her with trespassing or forced entry when she broke the door into his apartment. Never ever surrender your passport. Hide it good and if someone takes it then go straight to your embassy. Never ever give out sums of money to resettle grievances unless it done under a court of law or if not possible then come to an agreement and document it.
In most countries where you arent completely disadvantaged by laws, you are correct. Unfortunately in china, especially in the current ccp hellhole, things dont work like that. He def made mistakes but the cops will take the side of natives over foreigners every time. Unless you know someone powerful to vouch for you anyway. He couldnt have charged her, his passport was taken under duress and the way the remediation works there is you have to work it out amongst yourselves. I will agree he shouldnt have given her money like that without evidence or at the police station but he was clearly ignorant and naive.
@@martinwalker8569 German one from mom. Antillean one from dad, Dutch one from born and raised, perhaps a Russian one from grandparents in near future. Makes life very easy in some area's.
I would suggest foreigners make at least 1 to 2 local Chinese friends if they choose to live in China, so they can ask them for advice when faced with threats and extortion. Do not be scared, some people simply test the limits of others' fear, so never yield to unreasonable requests. When you are in China, develop your circle of friends espeically locally with Chinese natives, so you have people at your back. It is not just for foreigners, Chinese people also have to do the same when they move to another city or province. You need help, do not fight alone.
Very good advice. I lived in China for quite a few years. Other than business didn't have many problems, but it was really helpful to have some good local friends to bounce ideas off.
Corey Tournet Thanks for the comment. I hope you are having a nice time living in China. If I live abroad, I would do the same instead of sticking to the people whom I come along with or Chinese expats only. It is the universal wisdom of adapting to any new environment.
You are welcome. To me the only difficult part about China is doing business, but it's difficult for many Chinese too. There's not much legal protection, so the key is to find good people and build strong personal relationships. I actually like the old fashioned way of building relationships, compared to cold and impersonal business.
Yeah quite true. Business lies are not lies, some or most Chinese business people just go a bit too far in this regard. By the way, I checked out your profile and noticed that you run a product named The Laundry Alternative, it looks amazing!
Haha, he thinks it's wrong to give her a backhand slap after she scratched and abused him and bit a chunk out of his arm and stole his passports. I mean, come on.
just by the sound of his story this man is just plain stupid and there is just too many holes in his story why is he paying copious amounts ofI would have told them go ahead have me followed I'll get a gang of my own to and I'll follow you but you're not getting my money and plus they made the threat right in front of the police???????
@Wendell Cleveland Sorry but that’s how things work in China. Foreigners or Chinese from other cities will have a terrible disadvantage over locals in any conflict. The police only want no trouble in front of their eyes. Who pay who, how to settle, doesn’t matter. They don’t care.
@@wendellmadfinger2358 I lived in China for 6 months and believe me, you can find yourself in the most ridiculous situations that would never make sense to a normal person
Be glad you didn't offend a relative of military. It's a lot worse if you do albeit really rare. I have family in the PLA and when I am in China, I swear I feel like I'm untouchable. We ride around in vehicles with that red Heineken star and people generally don't even look your way twice. Once I was eating in one of the smaller villages outside Jun An province and a pair of musicians asked for some food. These were 20 year olds with guitars. Like the foreigner that I am, I kindly scooped up some rice , meat and veggies for them to eat. They ate quick then started to say that they were sick. Feigning pains from poisoned food, the same food I was eating. I actually got scared for a moment until I realized that they were shitting me. Long story short. They called the police, I called my cousin. My cousin came with a few PLA buddies, guns in hand, smacked the police officer and proceeded to beat the kids to a bloody pulp. Life in China is so different than the good ol' USA! LOL
After watching the video about dogs among others, I can't even finish watching this. I am an ex-pat living in Colombia and China makes Colombia seem Utopian. This is crazy! Why on earth would I live in place like China where I am told I have literally NO rights upon entering? Chinese know this so when you get on someone's bad side, it's over. When he said the woman broke into his apartment and made off with his passport, that was it for me.
Well, he should have talked to his country consulate first. Passports are actually government property, so he should have reported the theft to them and then they could deal with the local police to get it back without dealing with the girl. The consulate could then decide to issue a new one or try to get it back by the girl. So, a lost passport is not the end of the world and he just dealt with this wrong. But my USA passport actually state on one of the pages that the government owns the passport and must be return by demand. In fact, one of your responsibilities of a USA passport holder is to report immediately if your passport is lost or stolen and you report that when oversea to the USA consulate. I imagine most countries have similar laws.
Just wanted to say something about passports EVERYONE should be well aware of BEFORE going ANYWHERE overseas... A passport is NOT YOURS, its is actually your governments documents who allow ONLY YOU (only exceptions are, getting it stamped where it is only briefly out of your possession, or a government official of YOUR country) to carry so you can prove who you are and where you are from (from what I have researched, maybe I am wrong or mislead in such regard, but regardless, you should still treat it the very same). This is not just an issue in China, other places also will try similar tactics (eg renting a bike, they might "require" you to deposit your passport) such as Thailand, Philippines, India, and I dare suspect every foreign country on the map. They can keep a PHOTOCOPY only of the passport, NOT the original only you are entitled to carry. Please learn this WELL before going anywhere overseas.
Yes, you are perfectly right, a passport is not your property, and by taking it, or steal it they become the criminal, not you. Report it stolen, and get a new one, then leave.
why am i commenting on an old post? in the hopes that this helps someone out in the future. (1) MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A PHOTO COPY OF YOUR PASSPORT (2) always know where your embassy is.
Thailand is notorious for "needing" your passport for rentals. Never ever leave your passport at a rental place, if the rental place requires it, leave, rent somewhere else.
Yeah maybe but the question is whose picture and name and most of all who paid for it ? If those shits are for free it's OK to loose them or if they get expired I'll probably renew them anytime no problem huh
I worked at the passport office of my country and what you said is true and we told everyone who was traveling, even just to the US to put their passport in the hotel safe in their room and keep a photo copy on them when they leave the room. Problem is in some countries, the local police and government officials or all in on it and they demand you turn over your passport. Unless you are able to run or drive to your country's embassy you are SOL and JWF. They throw you in a cell and if they want, you will never been seen again.
high def In the video they said otherwise. It is even used when no crime at all had occurred, but simply when a sufficiently sized online crowd is pissed off. After all, it is no database or something, it is simply the utilization of the knowledge of common people online.
Yas never date a mainland Chinese girl, a Chinese American, a Chinese British, a Chinese kiwi, or a halfie. Like just Chinese in general mannnnnn plz plz 🙏🏽🤣
Lawrence Lee, i was about to ask that question. I mean you are correct, why not report Lost of passport and get reissued and faster get out of china before anymore losses. Or like some who comment here, he can move to another part of China.(After getting a new passport)
You can break a door open by breaking the handle mechanism if other locking systems arent engaged. If the door had deadbolts or other locking systems seperate from the door handle that werent engaged at the time this crazy woman broke his door open, then yes, he could still lock the door after it had been broken.
He could have asked the embassy of his country to issue the new passport as his passport got stolen by his gf. Submission to the extortion makes the society full of extortion and scamming.
If you haven't dated a Chinese lady, you don't understand how "clingy" they can be, and what lengths they will go to preserve a relationship, especially with a decent looking foreigner. You can be explicit about not wanting a girlfriend, by saying your just dating for short-term fun, and the girl may even seem to understand and actually agree with you, but then, soon after, hint about getting married or moving in together. Not criticizing Chinese women, they have a lot of desirable qualities, but you have to understand that they play by different rules.
Ok but from my experience (more than 8 years in China) he shouldnt agree to pay the first 10 K. After he did it means he was guilty. Nothing gonna happned if he just refuse to pay. Maybe he need to change place of living because she could make some personal mess. Second He should let her "rob" his passport. By the way he can ask for compensation and it can be prove of her illegal action. Whats more, If his passport was stolen he should inform local PSB and applay in embassy for new one (its no problem). It happned to me that my passport was damaged, I just applay for new one in my embassy in Beijing. P.S. Sorry for my English, I hope You all guys can understand my comment.
Not true, watch the other first video. He was about to get in real legal trouble if he didn"t give the money. Police doesn't want to bother about couple issues in China but when an accusation for violence is filled in China, and that accusation goes in court, you can be sure that he would have had to pay and maybe even go to prison. There's a 99% criminal conviction rate in China.
1. If the issue goes to court she is more guilty than he. 2. Pay for hospital in China is quite cheap. Normal treatment after motobike accident costs no more than 1000 rmb (if no any deanger things happened). In this case the family just found milk cow.
Raport z Państwa Środka Totally agree with the hospitals bills, but I'm pretty sure justice would sided with the girl, cause she's chinese. Imagine the headlines "chinese women losing case after her foreign bf beats her up". lol, that would never ever pass. So he would have lost, paid a fee, go to prison, and then probably get expulsed.
Next thing is that for judge we should to know the version of Chinese girl. Its not means that I dont believe him but is the rule. I dont think so that if he doesnt pay it could end up in prison. Probably nothing, maybe need to change city or the worst leave China with bad record (5 years no able to get Chinese visa). Chinese government will not put him to jail because they dont need the scandal of "human rights", "not guilty prisoners" etc. There is embassy and western journalists behind him. Journalist just wait this kind of news.
THIS has happened to me in another Asian country and I just sat in jail for a week and they let me go... once they realized I wasn't giving up. This guy after 2 days he had already paid up 40,000 RMB or something. He's quite a fool.
there was also a story on ... either This Amercan Life or Radiolab I think, about a guy, same basic principle but he sat in jail for 2 and a half years. They wouldn't let him go until he paid. he kept waiting for a trial that he didn't realize would NEVER happen. Pretty good story, sorry I couldn't link you exactly the sauce. His crime was he let a soccer ball go into an open restaurant seating, and of course a bunch of guys started yelling and one grabbed him so he threw his arms off himself. That was it, next thing the police is at the door.
This is why I like your videos, you give a lot of good information that I think many people wouldn't normally be aware of when visiting China. You're a pretty good source of advice being a foreigner who lives there. thanks for the videos
I don't think this one is so much of a "scam" case. As someone who was born and raised in China, it's obvious to me that this girl is not some kind of nobody who just wants money. The series of trouble she pulled was not something that a normal nobody cal pull. She must have a background of power or fortune to some extent. It seems to me that she was really hurt and just wants the guy to suffer. She started from taking as much money away as possible, and then eventually ended up taking away his entire life in China. Note that in our culture, by the book, you always start and end relationships *officially*. Some people do not accept the status of "on and off" or "just sleeping". To some people, you're either continuously in a relationship or you're not! And if you're seen as a cheater, oh man, you'll get into the worst troubles a woman can come up with.
To be fair, your comment ("in our culture, by the book, you always start and end relationships officially") applies to people from any country. There is no culture where it is accepted to be cheated on and betrayed. A man who has balls, will be able to face that girlfriend and say : "ok, i think we should end our relationship here". Before moving on to another relationship. This guy in the video has been fooling around, playing with girls. He was looking for troubles.
I would have gone to local martial arts studio and asked to hire few men. "Do not touch the ones she comes here with, just block them from me!!!'. 5000 RNB, matter over.
I have never been in china but I have watched many Winston videos. In one of them he says when china women start dating , it is to marry. The girl moved to his home. They spend days together. Next he dumped her. She was not happy , she was hurt, and decided to avenge herself. In other Asian countries they cut the balls of the guys in such situations.
The girl seemed very resentful and violent as she was looking at revenge. I don't think she was that important of a person maybe her dad had some connections but not the triads otherwise I think this guy would have been disappeared or his body would be found somewhere.
Sorry cheating is not acceptable. In fact, it is unaccusable. But guy is not to smart either because at least when it comes to USA passport, the passport is actually government property. He should have called them, been honest and they could have issued a new one or gotten the local police to get it back. That would have been embarrassing to the CCP if a consulate had to be involved to get someone passport back to them, since this woman stole it. in a jealous rage. He might have been deported but he would have saved a bunch of money.
thanks God a million times that i am British, never ever seen heard any thing like this/these sort of things here in my beloved country. God bless UK forever. amen
because there are laws against extortion in the UK, western Europe, Canada, US...in China..at times anything goes..corruption and bribery are pretty bad.
No blackmail, corruption, or extortion rings in the UK? Really? Odd. I have heard of it. The UK has it but probably on a much smaller scale. Or because of the laws they have found ways to skirt at the edge or do it in dark rooms. Out of the public eye. One of the common ones is with explicit cell phone videos. Some file charges against the extortionist. Some pay up.
The easiest way to avoid a situation where you get scammed or something like this........ never go there of course. I lived in Japan next door for a few years. That stuff would not happen there.
Back in 2004, a schoolboy in Japan was playing soccer and he kicked the ball at a goal placed near a gate. The ball rolled out from the school yard and an 80 year old man on a scooter broke his leg while attempting to avoid it. Soon after, he showed signs of dementia and about 18 months later he died of pneumonia. Unbelievably, the parents of the boy were found liable and were originally ordered to pay 50 million yen (around $460,000). It was later reduced to 15 million yen. The point is, screwed up things indeed happen in Japan. I've also read that if you're driving a car in Japan and you get rear-ended and then subsequently run into another car and it leads to a child's death, you can be held responsible even though there was nothing you could have done to prevent the accident.
Bort McBort thats a very bad example because anywhere in the world there are this stupid laws but it’s still legal. The old nan thing doesn’t sound illegal. Yes it’s really crazy that they were liable to pay that much. But the situation in China is flat out wrong, immoral and unfair.
@@posysdogovych2065 I love how you're addressing the norm and not some isolated, anecdotal incident. It really helps me know what's real and who's indoctrinated 🙄
I know a guy who side swipped by a woman on a scooter because a SF driver pulled out from behind a car right in front of her going the wrong way. the guys scooter went down throwing him into the curb where he broke 5 ribs in 7 places, torn his ACL and miniscus. he woke up in the middle of the one way side lane for bikes after the accident. when he took off his helmet, the chinese woman and SF driver took off right away. everyone wanted to move him off the road and he was eventually moved and his scooter was moved as well. the only reason they moved him was he was blocking the traffic. when he turned around after reaching the sidewalk everyone was already gone leaving him there to die like a dog on the side of the road in the winter just before dark. this is china. they do not care for anyone especially foreigners. they will leave you to die and not think anything of it. like I said, they are animals, plain and simple. in fact, they are worse than animals, because an animal would stay with a hurt animal to comfort it and help it as much as it could. not chinese, they have no simpathy, no kindness, no compassion for anyone but those they know and then may be not even them. this happened and the guy is still suffering everyday in pain. he has to walk with a cane and it has been over nine months already. he went to SF to get them to pay for some of the bills and they said they would but then turned their back on him and left him with nothing except intense pain everyday. the thorasic surgeon said his ribs will never stop hurting and his hip has become so painful that he is brought to tears quit often just from walking. china, a place you are playing with your life. they will leave you to die and couldn't care less if you did.
I've seen a UA-cam vid were this exact thing happened in Thailand and Vietnam, even a few times in Japan, so i'm guessing this is not uncommon in Asian countries.
+Fawwaaz Of course you have experince it first hand. You are middle estern. You treat women like shit. Bet you try beeing a player in Asia. You got it coming!
yeah they dont care about anything. they have the mentality of : anything for a quick buck, even if it means screwing over your best mate or family. as long as its money coming in. theyre are in
Birds of a feather, flock together. Lots of capitalists are doing business with the Chinese government no matter how corrupted and unscrupulous the government is. Please stay away from them if you can.
Duston McCreary I don't think there's any real civil law in China. It's a crook's country, the police will definitely not help foreigners unless you're some big shot.
SoWhat "China police Helping foreigners more than locals"? Which part?? Do you mean those police officers who has a history of receiving bribes instead?
If you went to China... Like visiting a museum, the police officer would let you go in first, or some even dont check whats on your bag... They trust foreigner more than their own people... This is what my conclusion lol... There was a case where police officer was beaten up when the police try to call a people not to shit in the street... XD
He got a new passport from the embassy. And the girl and her family wanted money. The family has no control over him leaving or staying-- they scammed him. Try watching the entire video.
The best part about these videos is that I can watch in horror without having to leave home. I'd visit my family in Zimbabwe before I spent the money to visit the neon hell of China.
It's really quite sad you have to tread carefully on every topic where Chinese people supposedly could feel "offended", because of course this kind of shit happens in every society and mostly it's the locals who are hurt by it. Humility and honesty about ones society's weak points is the road to progress toward a better society, but this is something that seems foreign to many Chinese people, unfortunately.
actually it is not offensive. they are angry because it is not 100% truth. For example. why would this guy try to settle with money if he is not in fault. why won't he report to his embassy for the lost of the passport and seek for help from the embassy. did he take advantages of the girl at first? It is not just about jealous girlfriend or something. there are more not told.
Yea i would have call my country consulate and told them the women stolen it and have them replace or they deal with the police. Passports are technically the property of the government and not the individual person who is holding it. For example, my USA passport states that this passport property of the USA government and must be turned over by demand. Then list the law number. So, if this guy handled this better, he probably would have been deported but not stuck paying this woman. off. To me this like someone stealing or someone finding your credit card and telling you must pay to get it back. No, you call the credit card company and get a hold on the card so it cannot be used and then report the card stolen. So, this guy is not only a cheater, but he is also not that smart.
i don't get all the comments, nobody is concerned for the poor girl who was being 2 timed by this jerk. clearly he was cheating on her with this other blonde and after he had his fill of a local girl he just moved on to another. its pretty obvious that this guy is a womanizer and what that girl did was only trying to teach the scumbag a lesson, imagine if this guy was dating your sister or daughter would you approve? guys i think we should see this whole issue not from a east vs west perspective but rather a jerk 2 timing a nice girl and then trying to use social media to justify himself. i request serpentza, pls if possible track down the other girl and her side of the story too, only then should we judge this incident.
well he got what he deserved, all i'm saying is that u can't just pin this as a china thing, but rather a jerk taking advantage of a girl and then leaving her for another with the mindset that ya i'm a foreighner, wats the worst that can happen? if things get ugly then just pack and leave. he's probably on the look out for another girl where ever he is even now. (btw if this were to happen here in india where i'm from, he'd probably had been cut to pieces by the girls family).
also tell me, what is the reasonable thing to do here? serpentza is just being a friend to the jerk and letting him play the victim card where as its the other way around. also why is that other girl hidding herself when its mighty clear that she is also party to the whole issue? she clearly knew this guy is seeing someone and still she goes and sleeps with him and tries to act innocent.
If you get cheated on then you should just move on yourself. It does not give you the right to physically attack someone and harass them for weeks on end. It happens. We're humans. we get attracted to other people. Dont be such a puritan, monogamy is not for everyone. They weren't even married, she was just a side chick that he saw a couple times a week.
and so that he goes on doing what he's done without any fear. i think what she did was absolutely the right thing to do so that the jerk thinks a million times before repeating the same mistakes.
...this situation is IDENTICAL to what I went through in Vietnam. Be forewarned is to be forearmed. I found out years later that my case was one if many why credit cards are no longer accepted nor used in Vietnam.
As a gay man in China, I was dating a local guy. We met regularly but he wouldn't commit to a relationship. He always said he would be happy for me if I found someone who wanted a committed relationship. After a year, I did meet someone, and suddenly the first guy wanted a commitment. I said no, and then the threats started. He knew I worked at Wall Street English and wrote to the general complaints/comments addess on the Wall Street website, and said that I was gay, and that I was distributing pornographic photos of myself on the internet. I was out at work, but my boss did tell me that I needed to be discrete. Then he phoned my apartment management and told them I was gay. I had to move. At that point, I fought back, and threatened him. I told him that I knew where he lived and worked and would out him to his family and employer if he continued. This quietened him down, but he then still had the balls to mail me for a year begging for another chance.
If you broke a door down where I live, you'd get shot the second you stepped inside. Any house you look at is a coin flip whether or not there's a gun in it.
Japan guy here: Japanese tend to view most foreigners as poor. Thanks to their economic bubble years ago. So angry woman don't go down the money path, but I do know of three guys who had angry ex's tell the police about their pot stash which resulted in a month is jail, daily questioning and a ¥500,000 (US$4,700) fine with no deportation order. I personally had one girl, I called her 'hotpants' throwing a stone through my window one night. But that is kind of a Universal angry woman reaction and not Japan specific.
I got into 1 fight in China trying to stick up for a Chinese lady getting physically abused by her boyfriend on the sidewalk near me. It was too hard to watch and do nothing. Fortunately, his friends were not nearby.
I think this guy made several bad decisions. And just kept making bad decisions all the way. I went to China and lived for 5 years and never got scammed because I always had a plan for this type of situation. You should always be prepared for this type of situation First of all. 1) always have your passport locked in your house. 2) the moment someone is trying to steal your passport you should contact your consulate 3) if you are arrested contact your consulate 4) if attending a police station (contact your consulate) 5) contact your consulate 6) contact your consulate 7) if anything does not feel right (contact consulate) when people start harassing you 8) change phone number 9) change we chat 10) abandon your apartment ect. all of these things would have avoided this situation. Also he should have made friends with more powerful chinese people, such as police and government officials. ect. he became a victim because he was not prepared. He could have been a guy who had a fun time in china, but because he wasn't prepared for this type of situation he got burned big time. Hope you have learned a lesson and if you cannot have a plan for dealing with this type of situation it is best you don't come to china to live
This type of rather 'unsavory' behavior is happening in every country. One approach, wherever a person may reside or when visiting would be to 'keep your cards very close' at hand. In other words, the less people know about you, the safer you will be.
Let's be honest. Being an Asian I can tell you that scamming is a part of China. It might not be a part of the culture, but it's communism that builds and it gets improved over time. I can assure that you'll get things like that in Vietnam too, but maybe not in a such complicated situation like in China. Poor lad, might God put him in a better path.
The whole world is like that. Even in the US. The difference is that the US is more subtle and does it in a "legal" way. You fools are just too dumb and naive to believe the media.
There are fraudsters everywhere. But at least most of the time courts in Pakistan see through bullshit the cops and the plaintiff are saying and do what is right. In China it seems police and courts just don't do anything but repress anti party sentiment and that's it.
Sorry but no. Back-handing her after doing all that was not wrong. I'm all about treating women with respect and chivalry however, if she wants to fight like a man, she's getting hit like a man.
Threats to people or property must be eliminated with extreme prejudice. Firstly, he could have been sued by his landlord or the other people in his apartment if she did more damage or harmed them. Secondly, there's much to be said for being the one who goes to the cops with a bunch of evidence and witness testimonies, with a trussed up assailant in tow. Saying sorry or admitting to any wrongdoing in public in China will get you spit-roasted. Be first, be aggressive.
In us it’s called domestic violence, you will be arrested immediately much worse than the guy in this video or even got shot to death if you resist the Arrest!
Well done, Winston. Please continue to share these experiences of western foreigners being exploited. This is not unique to China. These types of scams are rampant throughout Southeast Asia, also.
+Pokeball Westeners?? Have you ever been to any Asian tourist country? Its full of black and middle eastern MEN. Often running some scam themselfs. Thinking they are the top of the World. Its also strange that a lot of Westen women also are seen in Asia, but almost no black or middle-eastern....Im just saying!
Thank goodness this guy and his girl are safe and moving on with life. It is very sad to hear this story happening in China. I had such an amazing experience there in 2009 and am very much looking forward to getting back to China in 2020. As always, thank you Winston, for putting all of your videos out there for us to help us prepare for staying safe in China. Cheers, bro!
Honestly that wasn't me, I've just made a video about it: ua-cam.com/video/ZGLRg1G9nlk/v-deo.html I'm sorry mate, I really don't know what to say, I'd never be that rude to you or any of my subscribers for that matter
Because once she is no longer threat to your phsyical safey your recourse is contact police, not beating her. and don't think its not beating if you have a fun term for it, like back handing. go to jail.
My take on his story is the girl wasn't a scammer or didn't have bad intentions to start with but certainly got some issues (like jealousy). But when their relationship went downhill which I assume because he was just playing with her and cheating with her - she decided to go fcking mental and take revenge, and this is where all her family joined in and wanted compensation and turned this all thing into extortion.
Couple of issues/points with the story 1. Appartment doors in china are normally heavy / reinforced as such i cant see how a woman would break it in 2. You have more than one passport, why not get an emergency passport and just leave? 3. Dont do the dirt and you wont get hurt 4. Time to find the other girl and get her side of the story!
1. Not all doors are built this way and a lot are broken from low maintenance. 2. He did leave. Sometimes your life is so wrapped up in the current things you are doing you dont do what keeps you the safest. 3. I agree with this 4. Jealous, vengeful people will do anything to hurt another, especially insecure Chinese women. Her word would of been most likely shit.
Exactly! i mean, her face is now online, has been seen by thousands, has been slandered to a certain extent and if she will bite chunks out of you when shes angry what would she not do when shes in the mood (oh yeah) This would make the best jeremy kyle /jerry springer show ever
+David Gaudet at 8:36 he said he "locked the door"after he pushed her out his apartment, if "she broke the door" is true, it would make "locked the door" questionable, if he lied about "she broke the door" then what else is true. this video makes no sense
There were two doors, the first one is the community entrance door to the building, chinese are known to maintain nothing, it probably was already broken and she broke it, not his apartment door.
Well, I love the performing artist Lang Lang. He's given several concerts here in Santa Barbara at the Granada Theater. I think he's moved to the U.S. though. He wrote an autobiography when he was still in his twenties that gave a fascinating portrayal of the intense competition among up and coming classical musicians (some of the best in the world) in China, including one experience that nearly brought him to suicide. And this is very informative, thank you.
you guys don't know the door (perhaps it was shit), the girl (perhaps she had opened doors before, it ain't impossible), if there is a double even a triple lock on the door (like I had), yet there you are solving the mistery.
He laughs about being a "scoundrel" and the brand new girlfriend still sits beside him like a faithful puppy. if he cheats or misleads the one before you, he won't hesitate to cheat or mislead you.
Sometimes its the woman gives the guy the money some sob story how he will be beaten up by his ex's family or 30% return per month investment. She is then trapped in the relationship believing one day she will get it back but only gives more. They went after him a bit hard for just a broken relationship.
+DavidRsaid Maybe she didn't think she had any other option A: Divorce him now and be lost in China B: Divorce him later in back in America or something (Thats probaly what she did)
A nimation I don't understand your meaning - they weren't married, but had been a boyfriend/girlfriend - then he apparently started seeing someone else and they broke up. I don't understand how you mean the word 'divorce' - in the States, it's used for the end of a marriage. Personally, I think the first girl was lucky to be done with the cheater.
the video poster is just 'letting steam out' - perhaps its just his 'culture' of doing so. At least he'll be more careful (hopefully) when dealing with other people of different cultures in the future.
True story. law in China is so unfair and is enforced according to which side has more power, can give more pressure on the law enforcement department. It annoys almost everyone. i'm sorry. not annoyed, were pissed off. to be exact.
happy for you! I escaped on June 5th 2022 - I will celebrate that as a personal holiday for the rest of my life. I will never take my freedom for granted ever again!
A great video Winston that showed how quickly things can get out of hand when living in a foreign country. I know from experience living in Asea, that as I foreigner I was vulnerable and to the native population I was seen as just a rich white guy. I tend to keep myself to myself and stay away from trouble. What made me vulnerable was that I was not a citizen and was not entitled to the same rights as the native population. Luckily, I stayed out of trouble. This experience was completely different to how I imagined, before traveling.
I think I might have been tempted to make an example out of the first "relative" of the girl who made an aggressive move. I know you said they have a mob mentality, but I've seen such mobs break up quickly as soon as the first guy goes down.
I was thinking the same thing; he should have tossed the leader of the group around a little to test the waters to see how far they were willing to go.
He got involved with the girl.and next he wanted to dump her. But in china that's not acceptable . ( See other Winston video where he says that. When Chinese ladies date it is to marry ) . After she got dumped she decided to avenge herself. If you don't want problem don't date Chinese girl if you don't want to marry her
Did the dude in this video say that he was basically cheating on the crazy Chinese extorsionist chick? Cuz if that's how all this started he kinda got what he deserved
10:50 big mistake giving her any money. Because of course she will demand more.
Never give up your passport !!
The more serpentza videos I see the less I have any desire to go to China.
when i go to china i will head straight to the budhist or shaolin temples, urban chinese can be a real problem
Stay where you are is the safest. Go there for holiday is ok
I’d love to go but there’s the kung flu 😷
I sadly already parted ways with the thought of visiting N Korea or China ever in my life.
N Korea - You can literally be called out for anything and your next 15 years of your life will be forced labor every single day until you either die or get some bad disease.
China - People naturally hate you and want to scam you no matter the nationality.
It's fucking disgusting.
''Never give up your passport !!''
Do you really think you have the choice?!
I lived in CHINA for 0 years and still I had a lot of bad experiences .
True, watching this video feels something is not right.
Ya we all have it's called walmart.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is hillarious, best comment ever.
Thank you
You dont have experience unbtil you´ve actually been there.
You’ve successfully put me off ever going to China. I’ve lived in West Africa, Qatar, Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia and Ireland and have never had any such challenges with the people with the exception of one bar fight in East Malaysia. It really sounds like a roll of the dice as to what’s going to happen to you as a foreigner there, especially myself being an American. Thanks for the education!
Singapore is also full of triads. Very dangerous
you are probably safe to go as a tour, but just going out on your without knowing the language could be a big problem.
Let's be honest, scamming is part of Chinese culture.
Yeah, I took a trip to Chengdu for a week. Visiting a friend, she bought a battery at a street vendor to recharge her camera. It failed right away, and her reaction told me everything I need to know about how common counterfeiting is in China, "meh".
shortmemory well, there should be mentioned as well that also Chinese citizens are amongst victims. I would say that described cases are not typically Chinese, but just normal for places where people try to take advantage from others.
And there happens to be a lot of those places in China...There are countless examples of this including some very high profile cases. And yes, the victims of Chinese scams are usually Chinese.
Some people in Mainland Chinese do this. But don't pull other Chinese from Hong Kong, Taiwan, overseas to this practice.
I mean even if 1% of the population is scammer, you would have 14 million scam happening in China.
I can't tell you how thankful I am for your videos!!!! You're wonderful Winston!
Sure Winston, we learned something watching your videos. We learned...DON'T GO TO CHINA! It's just not worth it
There's many better places to visit in Asia
@wowalinbie Totally agree. Taiwan is awesome!
They released the Kung flu virus and lied too. So yes. Avoid China on all levels
It's true plus china isn't really Chinese go Taiwan
Well he did find the love of his life there...
Watching Serpentza and C-Milk's videos totally puts me off stepping foot in China!
I know. I never even thought about visiting China. Now that I've see these videos there's no way I'll pay to go there.
@@vegarosa69 I am with you, I wouldn't go even if someone was willing to pay me.
pretty sure thats their narative by the end lol
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 Wrong usage of narrative detected..
Confirmation bias is a bitch
ok first off, for anyone watching. If you are in a foreign country like china,
and you get intimidated to render your passport and someone says you cant leave the country because they have your passport.
immediately go to your Embassy and inform them to what happen.
the Embassy has many ties with many high up people in that country and they know a few people here and there , because thats what they do.
thats why its an embassy.
There was a woman american living in Japan, and similar thing has happened to her. the embassy called in a few people,
and they had a stern talk with the people the woman pointed out. those people never bothered her again.
The Embassy have special people that deal with this kind of stuff in foreign countries.
Also when ever you go to ANY foreign country, ALWAYS know where your embassy is, always...
That's good advice for everyone I think, your comment deserves a thank you.
Definitely.
Yes, an excellent reminder!
*HUGE thank-you* from me!!!
Exactly, that's why we have diplomacies and how you solve matters in a developed nation whereas 3rd world countries resort to blackmail, extortion and threats.
My heart goes out to you. I am so glad you have put it all behind you. So sorry about the high cost however it seems things could have been far worse. (ridiculous enough as it was) Good luck and best wishes to you and your new girlfriend. The respectful way you held it together to convey your
encounter with dignity speaks highly of your true character. You don’t lose pride and decency as fast and easy as with money. The money stolen from you will be a bad omen to those who receive it. Trust me it will do your savage suitors no good. Not because I or anyone else innately believes this; it is the writing on their wall...their fate. Keep safe from here on out and may you be blessed, young man.
Moral of the story:
1. Don't blindly give out personal documents (ID, passport, etc).
2. Don't ever give money for settlement without documenting it (signing a document, videotaping it, etc).
Manos Seferidis exactly! this dude is so dumb
3. Don't go to a country that has no laws or law enforcement that would protect you from such nonsense.
@@aikeber1984 I was going to say the same thing. Tbh this guy in the blue got played and is pretty dumb which cost him big time.
First of all he should've charged her with trespassing or forced entry when she broke the door into his apartment.
Never ever surrender your passport. Hide it good and if someone takes it then go straight to your embassy.
Never ever give out sums of money to resettle grievances unless it done under a court of law or if not possible then come to an agreement and document it.
@@g18886 all Countries have (in theory) such laws. Its about society quality which is very low.
In most countries where you arent completely disadvantaged by laws, you are correct.
Unfortunately in china, especially in the current ccp hellhole, things dont work like that.
He def made mistakes but the cops will take the side of natives over foreigners every time. Unless you know someone powerful to vouch for you anyway.
He couldnt have charged her, his passport was taken under duress and the way the remediation works there is you have to work it out amongst yourselves.
I will agree he shouldnt have given her money like that without evidence or at the police station but he was clearly ignorant and naive.
the whole afterburner of the situation could have been avoided if the guy reported the loss/theft of his passport at an embassy.
Always copy passports. Make it much easier to get a replacement.
If you lose your passport go to the embassy and fly home
or have 2 passport
@@martinwalker8569 German one from mom. Antillean one from dad, Dutch one from born and raised, perhaps a Russian one from grandparents in near future.
Makes life very easy in some area's.
I lost my passport in Australia, flew to Sydney and a few hours later got it
Embassies issue temporary passports as well.
I would suggest foreigners make at least 1 to 2 local Chinese friends if they choose to live in China, so they can ask them for advice when faced with threats and extortion. Do not be scared, some people simply test the limits of others' fear, so never yield to unreasonable requests. When you are in China, develop your circle of friends espeically locally with Chinese natives, so you have people at your back. It is not just for foreigners, Chinese people also have to do the same when they move to another city or province. You need help, do not fight alone.
Very good advice. I lived in China for quite a few years. Other than business didn't have many problems, but it was really helpful to have some good local friends to bounce ideas off.
Corey Tournet Thanks for the comment. I hope you are having a nice time living in China. If I live abroad, I would do the same instead of sticking to the people whom I come along with or Chinese expats only. It is the universal wisdom of adapting to any new environment.
You are welcome. To me the only difficult part about China is doing business, but it's difficult for many Chinese too. There's not much legal protection, so the key is to find good people and build strong personal relationships. I actually like the old fashioned way of building relationships, compared to cold and impersonal business.
Yeah quite true. Business lies are not lies, some or most Chinese business people just go a bit too far in this regard. By the way, I checked out your profile and noticed that you run a product named The Laundry Alternative, it looks amazing!
BizShenzhen-com Excellent advice Biz
Haha, he thinks it's wrong to give her a backhand slap after she scratched and abused him and bit a chunk out of his arm and stole his passports. I mean, come on.
It's more like he knows that he could have gotten through the situation without it! And I like him for that.
just by the sound of his story this man is just plain stupid and there is just too many holes in his story why is he paying copious amounts ofI would have told them go ahead have me followed I'll get a gang of my own to and I'll follow you but you're not getting my money and plus they made the threat right in front of the police???????
@Wendell Cleveland Sorry but that’s how things work in China. Foreigners or Chinese from other cities will have a terrible disadvantage over locals in any conflict. The police only want no trouble in front of their eyes. Who pay who, how to settle, doesn’t matter. They don’t care.
@@wendellmadfinger2358 I lived in China for 6 months and believe me, you can find yourself in the most ridiculous situations that would never make sense to a normal person
@@wendellmadfinger2358 Have you ever lived in China? If so, you surely would know better than to make such an ill-informed comment.
I need to make a SerpentZA playlist because your intro music is so catchy. I’ve already downloaded a few but I need more lol
Why didn't he go to his local embassy and apply for another passport?
This is one of those surreal moments when two channels existing in very different realms meet! - Keep up the good work mate!
Larry Bundy Jr LAAAAAAAARRRRRRY
I know, right? :D
Larry Bundy Jr go to local embassy and tell them. I fucked a Chinese girl then dumped her now she wants vengeance.... Get me out of this!!
jack chung
Lol that sucks for you
Be glad you didn't offend a relative of military. It's a lot worse if you do albeit really rare.
I have family in the PLA and when I am in China, I swear I feel like I'm untouchable. We ride around in vehicles with that red Heineken star and people generally don't even look your way twice.
Once I was eating in one of the smaller villages outside Jun An province and a pair of musicians asked for some food. These were 20 year olds with guitars. Like the foreigner that I am, I kindly scooped up some rice , meat and veggies for them to eat. They ate quick then started to say that they were sick. Feigning pains from poisoned food, the same food I was eating. I actually got scared for a moment until I realized that they were shitting me.
Long story short. They called the police, I called my cousin. My cousin came with a few PLA buddies, guns in hand, smacked the police officer and proceeded to beat the kids to a bloody pulp.
Life in China is so different than the good ol' USA! LOL
What an amazing fiction novel! Did you come up with this storyline yourself?
His story is that he leads a Chinese army to start a revolution and then he becomes the King of China and then conquer the USA and then the world.
I was gonna say lol is this even real
@@znero6975you just caused a dissaperance
What did the mayor of the navy air force say about the incident?
After watching the video about dogs among others, I can't even finish watching this. I am an ex-pat living in Colombia and China makes Colombia seem Utopian. This is crazy! Why on earth would I live in place like China where I am told I have literally NO rights upon entering? Chinese know this so when you get on someone's bad side, it's over. When he said the woman broke into his apartment and made off with his passport, that was it for me.
Well, he should have talked to his country consulate first. Passports are actually government property, so he should have reported the theft to them and then they could deal with the local police to get it back without dealing with the girl. The consulate could then decide to issue a new one or try to get it back by the girl. So, a lost passport is not the end of the world and he just dealt with this wrong. But my USA passport actually state on one of the pages that the government owns the passport and must be return by demand. In fact, one of your responsibilities of a USA passport holder is to report immediately if your passport is lost or stolen and you report that when oversea to the USA consulate. I imagine most countries have similar laws.
I love the 'boing' sound with the close up of the pixelated girlfriend. Winston is hilarious!
Just wanted to say something about passports EVERYONE should be well aware of BEFORE going ANYWHERE overseas...
A passport is NOT YOURS, its is actually your governments documents who allow ONLY YOU (only exceptions are, getting it stamped where it is only briefly out of your possession, or a government official of YOUR country) to carry so you can prove who you are and where you are from (from what I have researched, maybe I am wrong or mislead in such regard, but regardless, you should still treat it the very same). This is not just an issue in China, other places also will try similar tactics (eg renting a bike, they might "require" you to deposit your passport) such as Thailand, Philippines, India, and I dare suspect every foreign country on the map. They can keep a PHOTOCOPY only of the passport, NOT the original only you are entitled to carry. Please learn this WELL before going anywhere overseas.
Yes, you are perfectly right, a passport is not your property, and by taking it, or steal it they become the criminal, not you. Report it stolen, and get a new one, then leave.
why am i commenting on an old post? in the hopes that this helps someone out in the future. (1) MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A PHOTO COPY OF YOUR PASSPORT (2) always know where your embassy is.
Thailand is notorious for "needing" your passport for rentals. Never ever leave your passport at a rental place, if the rental place requires it, leave, rent somewhere else.
Yeah maybe but the question is whose picture and name and most of all who paid for it ? If those shits are for free it's OK to loose them or if they get expired I'll probably renew them anytime no problem huh
I worked at the passport office of my country and what you said is true and we told everyone who was traveling, even just to the US to put their passport in the hotel safe in their room and keep a photo copy on them when they leave the room. Problem is in some countries, the local police and government officials or all in on it and they demand you turn over your passport. Unless you are able to run or drive to your country's embassy you are SOL and JWF. They throw you in a cell and if they want, you will never been seen again.
If I’ve had any inspirations of going to China, well, you’ve quash them. Thanks. Thanks a lot. 😊
I wonder could your friend not contact the local embassy for help?
i was thinking the same thing, but they would have probably sent you home asap.
They will find you. Watch the video on "human flesh search" in China.
high def In the video they said otherwise. It is even used when no crime at all had occurred, but simply when a sufficiently sized online crowd is pissed off. After all, it is no database or something, it is simply the utilization of the knowledge of common people online.
How is getting sent home from China out of that hell hole a bad thing?
high def "My" theory? I do not even have one. I simply state what was presented as fact in one of the earlier videos here, can you not read?
Thanks for this. I'll never come to China.
Unfortunately that's your loss my friend...
Trust me, you're not missing much
China is amazing.
@@machsaga5141 HAHA I highly doubt that.
machsaga he not missing much. Go to Tokyo. Fuck that shithole
I had that immense desire to visit China NOT ANY MORE..NOT EVEN FOR FREE
Dude the more you run away the more they chase you. Bullies have to be dealt with extreme and unexpected excessive force.
Nothing wrong with a little fuck and fight.
dude..wait until a mob of 10 or 20 of organized crime guys knocking down your door..then you'd sh*t in your pants
@@christopherdevo4926 that's when u rig the places with explosives and watch them from the other building light up like fireworks. Works like a charm
Man... poor guy... I hope things get a LOT better for him and his gf.
I wonder if that girl ever made it to the US because I'm pretty sure I dated her.
Yas never date a mainland Chinese girl, a Chinese American, a Chinese British, a Chinese kiwi, or a halfie. Like just Chinese in general mannnnnn plz plz 🙏🏽🤣
Me too! Over and over and over...
Why can't your friend reported the passport as lost and get a new one reissued?
why your family name is Lee , lol
Bat Augustiner What is wrong?
Lawrence Lee, i was about to ask that question. I mean you are correct, why not report Lost of passport and get reissued and faster get out of china before anymore losses.
Or like some who comment here, he can move to another part of China.(After getting a new passport)
1984Boy Exactly, there are many ways to solve the problem.
Let hope Wintson enlighten us on this.
She broke my door but then I locked the door... Seems legit.s
Yeah, that guy is omitting... a lot, I guess.
I caught that as well, didn’t make sense.
You can break a door open by breaking the handle mechanism if other locking systems arent engaged.
If the door had deadbolts or other locking systems seperate from the door handle that werent engaged at the time this crazy woman broke his door open, then yes, he could still lock the door after it had been broken.
10:20 he gave up his passport, after getting it back?? WTF!!!!?!
He could have asked the embassy of his country to issue the new passport as his passport got stolen by his gf.
Submission to the extortion makes the society full of extortion and scamming.
If you haven't dated a Chinese lady, you don't understand how "clingy" they can be, and what lengths they will go to preserve a relationship, especially with a decent looking foreigner. You can be explicit about not wanting a girlfriend, by saying your just dating for short-term fun, and the girl may even seem to understand and actually agree with you, but then, soon after, hint about getting married or moving in together. Not criticizing Chinese women, they have a lot of desirable qualities, but you have to understand that they play by different rules.
i bet this guys just try to get himself some good time...not even try to date her.
That whole thing was a scam. She had planned it from the beginning.
Love all your videos bro you really make the difference in understanding between the western and eastern people
Just subscribed to ur channel. U r objective and u speak the truth. I find u to b a very cool guy! Keep up the good work:)
+snowrose1011 thank you!
Ok but from my experience (more than 8 years in China) he shouldnt agree to pay the first 10 K. After he did it means he was guilty. Nothing gonna happned if he just refuse to pay. Maybe he need to change place of living because she could make some personal mess.
Second He should let her "rob" his passport. By the way he can ask for compensation and it can be prove of her illegal action. Whats more, If his passport was stolen he should inform local PSB and applay in embassy for new one (its no problem).
It happned to me that my passport was damaged, I just applay for new one in my embassy in Beijing.
P.S. Sorry for my English, I hope You all guys can understand my comment.
Not true, watch the other first video. He was about to get in real legal trouble if he didn"t give the money. Police doesn't want to bother about couple issues in China but when an accusation for violence is filled in China, and that accusation goes in court, you can be sure that he would have had to pay and maybe even go to prison. There's a 99% criminal conviction rate in China.
1. If the issue goes to court she is more guilty than he.
2. Pay for hospital in China is quite cheap. Normal treatment after motobike accident costs no more than 1000 rmb (if no any deanger things happened). In this case the family just found milk cow.
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Totally agree with the hospitals bills, but I'm pretty sure justice would sided with the girl, cause she's chinese. Imagine the headlines "chinese women losing case after her foreign bf beats her up". lol, that would never ever pass.
So he would have lost, paid a fee, go to prison, and then probably get expulsed.
Next thing is that for judge we should to know the version of Chinese girl. Its not means that I dont believe him but is the rule.
I dont think so that if he doesnt pay it could end up in prison. Probably nothing, maybe need to change city or the worst leave China with bad record (5 years no able to get Chinese visa).
Chinese government will not put him to jail because they dont need the scandal of "human rights", "not guilty prisoners" etc. There is embassy and western journalists behind him. Journalist just wait this kind of news.
Exactly! This guy was rather stupid how he handled this. I would have went to my country's embassy right away!
THIS has happened to me in another Asian country and I just sat in jail for a week and they let me go... once they realized I wasn't giving up.
This guy after 2 days he had already paid up 40,000 RMB or something. He's quite a fool.
This guy was easy to part him fro his money to escape, can happen anywhere, should not date multiple women in foreign lands
there was also a story on ... either This Amercan Life or Radiolab I think, about a guy, same basic principle but he sat in jail for 2 and a half years. They wouldn't let him go until he paid. he kept waiting for a trial that he didn't realize would NEVER happen. Pretty good story, sorry I couldn't link you exactly the sauce. His crime was he let a soccer ball go into an open restaurant seating, and of course a bunch of guys started yelling and one grabbed him so he threw his arms off himself. That was it, next thing the police is at the door.
This is why I like your videos, you give a lot of good information that I think many people wouldn't normally be aware of when visiting China. You're a pretty good source of advice being a foreigner who lives there. thanks for the videos
I don't think this one is so much of a "scam" case. As someone who was born and raised in China, it's obvious to me that this girl is not some kind of nobody who just wants money. The series of trouble she pulled was not something that a normal nobody cal pull. She must have a background of power or fortune to some extent. It seems to me that she was really hurt and just wants the guy to suffer. She started from taking as much money away as possible, and then eventually ended up taking away his entire life in China. Note that in our culture, by the book, you always start and end relationships *officially*. Some people do not accept the status of "on and off" or "just sleeping". To some people, you're either continuously in a relationship or you're not! And if you're seen as a cheater, oh man, you'll get into the worst troubles a woman can come up with.
To be fair, your comment ("in our culture, by the book, you always start and end relationships officially") applies to people from any country. There is no culture where it is accepted to be cheated on and betrayed. A man who has balls, will be able to face that girlfriend and say : "ok, i think we should end our relationship here". Before moving on to another relationship. This guy in the video has been fooling around, playing with girls. He was looking for troubles.
I would have gone to local martial arts studio and asked to hire few men. "Do not touch the ones she comes here with, just block them from me!!!'. 5000 RNB, matter over.
I have never been in china but I have watched many Winston videos. In one of them he says when china women start dating , it is to marry. The girl moved to his home. They spend days together. Next he dumped her. She was not happy , she was hurt, and decided to avenge herself. In other Asian countries they cut the balls of the guys in such situations.
The girl seemed very resentful and violent as she was looking at revenge. I don't think she was that important of a person maybe her dad had some connections but not the triads otherwise I think this guy would have been disappeared or his body would be found somewhere.
Sorry cheating is not acceptable. In fact, it is unaccusable. But guy is not to smart either because at least when it comes to USA passport, the passport is actually government property. He should have called them, been honest and they could have issued a new one or gotten the local police to get it back. That would have been embarrassing to the CCP if a consulate had to be involved to get someone passport back to them, since this woman stole it. in a jealous rage. He might have been deported but he would have saved a bunch of money.
This was the funniest video you have done lol!!!! Every time he Refers to his new Mysterious girlfriend you make that sound and close up kills me lol
Officer: "You backhanded the woman."
Suspect: "She stabbed me with a chopstick in the eye!" Officer: "But you hit her.."
nothing worse then chopstick in eye
Always be vigilant about the company you keep. No matter where you go.
Unless you're in the sea, no need to worry when you're in the sea.
thanks God a million times that i am British, never ever seen heard any thing like this/these sort of things here in my beloved country. God bless UK forever. amen
because there are laws against extortion in the UK, western Europe, Canada, US...in China..at times anything goes..corruption and bribery are pretty bad.
No blackmail, corruption, or extortion rings in the UK? Really? Odd. I have heard of it. The UK has it but probably on a much smaller scale. Or because of the laws they have found ways to skirt at the edge or do it in dark rooms. Out of the public eye. One of the common ones is with explicit cell phone videos. Some file charges against the extortionist. Some pay up.
The easiest way to avoid a situation where you get scammed or something like this........ never go there of course. I lived in Japan next door for a few years. That stuff would not happen there.
Back in 2004, a schoolboy in Japan was playing soccer and he kicked the ball at a goal placed near a gate. The ball rolled out from the school yard and an 80 year old man on a scooter broke his leg while attempting to avoid it. Soon after, he showed signs of dementia and about 18 months later he died of pneumonia. Unbelievably, the parents of the boy were found liable and were originally ordered to pay 50 million yen (around $460,000). It was later reduced to 15 million yen. The point is, screwed up things indeed happen in Japan. I've also read that if you're driving a car in Japan and you get rear-ended and then subsequently run into another car and it leads to a child's death, you can be held responsible even though there was nothing you could have done to prevent the accident.
Bort McBort thats a very bad example because anywhere in the world there are this stupid laws but it’s still legal. The old nan thing doesn’t sound illegal. Yes it’s really crazy that they were liable to pay that much. But the situation in China is flat out wrong, immoral and unfair.
@@nevadadavoode83 In other words, you think that if it is legal, it cannot be immoral or unfair. I see you're a regular Einstein.
Iowamutt i never said that actually and i never meant that either
@@posysdogovych2065 I love how you're addressing the norm and not some isolated, anecdotal incident. It really helps me know what's real and who's indoctrinated 🙄
I know a guy who side swipped by a woman on a scooter because a SF driver pulled out from behind a car right in front of her going the wrong way. the guys scooter went down throwing him into the curb where he broke 5 ribs in 7 places, torn his ACL and miniscus. he woke up in the middle of the one way side lane for bikes after the accident. when he took off his helmet, the chinese woman and SF driver took off right away. everyone wanted to move him off the road and he was eventually moved and his scooter was moved as well. the only reason they moved him was he was blocking the traffic. when he turned around after reaching the sidewalk everyone was already gone leaving him there to die like a dog on the side of the road in the winter just before dark. this is china. they do not care for anyone especially foreigners. they will leave you to die and not think anything of it. like I said, they are animals, plain and simple. in fact, they are worse than animals, because an animal would stay with a hurt animal to comfort it and help it as much as it could. not chinese, they have no simpathy, no kindness, no compassion for anyone but those they know and then may be not even them. this happened and the guy is still suffering everyday in pain. he has to walk with a cane and it has been over nine months already. he went to SF to get them to pay for some of the bills and they said they would but then turned their back on him and left him with nothing except intense pain everyday. the thorasic surgeon said his ribs will never stop hurting and his hip has become so painful that he is brought to tears quit often just from walking. china, a place you are playing with your life. they will leave you to die and couldn't care less if you did.
What is an SF? In such a long article why not go the extra step and type out the full word/s??
yeah the fuck is SF? no idea what any of this means
Just search child run over in china.there r many many vids.its shocking the mentality of the ccp controlled ppl of china.
Thanks so much for educating all of us around the globe. Your videos are very informative and revealing. Wish you the very best
Your girl from minecraft bro?
😂😂😂😂😂
I've seen a UA-cam vid were this exact thing happened in Thailand and Vietnam, even a few times in Japan, so i'm guessing this is not uncommon in Asian countries.
very common in thailand. oh trust me.. i know that first hand. been to china quite a few times, seen it a few but fortunately nothing straight to me
fawwaaz carrim That's good dude, hope it keeps that way !
hope so. im going back next week lol
+Fawwaaz Of course you have experince it first hand. You are middle estern. You treat women like shit. Bet you try beeing a player in Asia. You got it coming!
lol. you are so misinformed buddy. but thats okay. Media plays you and you dance on it. peace
I lived in CHINA for 11 years and I had a lot of bad experiences .
Are you a prisoner?
you can say so . Just like you mind situation now '
Yemenjapan Sick English bro.
Why want to live in China, it's a country full of crooks.
***** Oh, they are just a punch of uneducated people who are smarter than you.
I have a Chinese friend and he is a big time scammer.
yeah they dont care about anything. they have the mentality of : anything for a quick buck, even if it means screwing over your best mate or family. as long as its money coming in. theyre are in
my dad knows Kim Jong Un and he says youre full of shit
good for you
Why is he your friend then?
Birds of a feather, flock together. Lots of capitalists are doing business with the Chinese government no matter how corrupted and unscrupulous the government is. Please stay away from them if you can.
I just love your wife’s intros and how you incorporate her into your videos!!! I think you both are just adorable!
Scamming is part of Chinese culture. SERIOUSLY BEING HONEST
He allowed himself to be a victim. Should have gone back to the police station as soon as she demanding money and contacted an international lawyer.
Duston McCreary
I don't think there's any real civil law in China. It's a crook's country, the police will definitely not help foreigners unless you're some big shot.
The Chinese police help foreigner a LOT more than Chinese.
SoWhat
"China police Helping foreigners more than locals"? Which part?? Do you mean those police officers who has a history of receiving bribes instead?
If you went to China... Like visiting a museum, the police officer would let you go in first, or some even dont check whats on your bag... They trust foreigner more than their own people... This is what my conclusion lol... There was a case where police officer was beaten up when the police try to call a people not to shit in the street... XD
And also btw... International lawyer won't do anything in China... China's court would just probably go full on anti foreigner lol
That thumbs-up is for you being a good listener God bless you 👏
How did he get his passport back? And how was he able to leave if they still wanted money?
thats the point of the video, just what HE wants to tell. this is just weird.
Maybe he got a new one, that'd be much cheaper.
Todd Ogre24 That's what I'd like to know.
In cases like this you can have a new passport issued to you. here in the us
He got a new passport from the embassy. And the girl and her family wanted money. The family has no control over him leaving or staying-- they scammed him. Try watching the entire video.
The best part about these videos is that I can watch in horror without having to leave home. I'd visit my family in Zimbabwe before I spent the money to visit the neon hell of China.
Yikes, getting involved with Chinese women is obviously a bit of lottery......
Actually, it sounds worse than the lottery!
Just fuck and run. Run forest run!!
The hottest girls are almost always the craziest.
ua-cam.com/video/vwbKYcBdVyk/v-deo.html
Ain't that the truth!
That is true, but the reason for that is horrible. They were pretty when they were young (8-12) and perverted older men saw them and....
You're an idiot if you think asian women are hot
Adam S no sh,,,t
It's really quite sad you have to tread carefully on every topic where Chinese people supposedly could feel "offended", because of course this kind of shit happens in every society and mostly it's the locals who are hurt by it. Humility and honesty about ones society's weak points is the road to progress toward a better society, but this is something that seems foreign to many Chinese people, unfortunately.
The most sense ive seen in this comment section.
David Gaudet Thank you.
actually it is not offensive.
they are angry because it is not 100% truth.
For example.
why would this guy try to settle with money if he is not in fault.
why won't he report to his embassy for the lost of the passport and seek for help from the embassy.
did he take advantages of the girl at first?
It is not just about jealous girlfriend or something. there are more not told.
lmz Wow, you've never heard how extortion works or how the victims tend to act in opposition to their own good.
CaresserDundee
haha. so what threat do he get?
few man? just that?
Hire a lawyer immediately. Contact your embassy and tell them. Never deal with this yourself
Yea i would have call my country consulate and told them the women stolen it and have them replace or they deal with the police. Passports are technically the property of the government and not the individual person who is holding it. For example, my USA passport states that this passport property of the USA government and must be turned over by demand. Then list the law number. So, if this guy handled this better, he probably would have been deported but not stuck paying this woman. off. To me this like someone stealing or someone finding your credit card and telling you must pay to get it back. No, you call the credit card company and get a hold on the card so it cannot be used and then report the card stolen. So, this guy is not only a cheater, but he is also not that smart.
i don't get all the comments, nobody is concerned for the poor girl who was being 2 timed by this jerk. clearly he was cheating on her with this other blonde and after he had his fill of a local girl he just moved on to another. its pretty obvious that this guy is a womanizer and what that girl did was only trying to teach the scumbag a lesson, imagine if this guy was dating your sister or daughter would you approve? guys i think we should see this whole issue not from a east vs west perspective but rather a jerk 2 timing a nice girl and then trying to use social media to justify himself. i request serpentza, pls if possible track down the other girl and her side of the story too, only then should we judge this incident.
well he got what he deserved, all i'm saying is that u can't just pin this as a china thing, but rather a jerk taking advantage of a girl and then leaving her for another with the mindset that ya i'm a foreighner, wats the worst that can happen? if things get ugly then just pack and leave. he's probably on the look out for another girl where ever he is even now. (btw if this were to happen here in india where i'm from, he'd probably had been cut to pieces by the girls family).
also tell me, what is the reasonable thing to do here? serpentza is just being a friend to the jerk and letting him play the victim card where as its the other way around. also why is that other girl hidding herself when its mighty clear that she is also party to the whole issue? she clearly knew this guy is seeing someone and still she goes and sleeps with him and tries to act innocent.
If you get cheated on then you should just move on yourself. It does not give you the right to physically attack someone and harass them for weeks on end. It happens. We're humans. we get attracted to other people. Dont be such a puritan, monogamy is not for everyone. They weren't even married, she was just a side chick that he saw a couple times a week.
and so that he goes on doing what he's done without any fear. i think what she did was absolutely the right thing to do so that the jerk thinks a million times before repeating the same mistakes.
That is a an ugly baby on your thumbnail picture. Bad genes passed down from dad. lmao
...this situation is IDENTICAL to what I went through in Vietnam. Be forewarned is to be forearmed. I found out years later that my case was one if many why credit cards are no longer accepted nor used in Vietnam.
As a gay man in China, I was dating a local guy. We met regularly but he wouldn't commit to a relationship. He always said he would be happy for me if I found someone who wanted a committed relationship. After a year, I did meet someone, and suddenly the first guy wanted a commitment. I said no, and then the threats started. He knew I worked at Wall Street English and wrote to the general complaints/comments addess on the Wall Street website, and said that I was gay, and that I was distributing pornographic photos of myself on the internet. I was out at work, but my boss did tell me that I needed to be discrete. Then he phoned my apartment management and told them I was gay. I had to move. At that point, I fought back, and threatened him. I told him that I knew where he lived and worked and would out him to his family and employer if he continued. This quietened him down, but he then still had the balls to mail me for a year begging for another chance.
Assume you don't realise the UA-cam previews on the slider bar aren't pixelating the girlfriend so at times she's clearly visible.
+Steven Whiting nice
I think it is just that it is so small resolution so it does look like it isn't pixelated. I can not see her face clearly even if zooming in that...
+serpentza Before I forget, I wish you make a video on ADVChina about what to look for if importing from china. How to prevent low quality scams?
I'm not sure why she needs to hide her identity anyways. She is already out of the country and the 'bad guys" already know who she is.
Assume you don't realise how to spell realize.
If you broke a door down where I live, you'd get shot the second you stepped inside.
Any house you look at is a coin flip whether or not there's a gun in it.
He deserves what he got because you don't negotiate with terrorists. Smfh
I back handed her which was wrong? No! You have to right to defend yourself. xD
Japan guy here: Japanese tend to view most foreigners as poor. Thanks to their economic bubble years ago. So angry woman don't go down the money path, but I do know of three guys who had angry ex's tell the police about their pot stash which resulted in a month is jail, daily questioning and a ¥500,000 (US$4,700) fine with no deportation order. I personally had one girl, I called her 'hotpants' throwing a stone through my window one night. But that is kind of a Universal angry woman reaction and not Japan specific.
women are crazy everywhere bro
I got into 1 fight in China trying to stick up for a Chinese lady getting physically abused by her boyfriend on the sidewalk near me. It was too hard to watch and do nothing. Fortunately, his friends were not nearby.
I think this guy made several bad decisions. And just kept making bad decisions all the way. I went to China and lived for 5 years and never got scammed because I always had a plan for this type of situation. You should always be prepared for this type of situation
First of all.
1) always have your passport locked in your house.
2) the moment someone is trying to steal your passport you should contact your consulate
3) if you are arrested contact your consulate
4) if attending a police station (contact your consulate)
5) contact your consulate
6) contact your consulate
7) if anything does not feel right (contact consulate)
when people start harassing you
8) change phone number
9) change we chat
10) abandon your apartment ect.
all of these things would have avoided this situation. Also he should have made friends with more powerful chinese people, such as police and government officials. ect.
he became a victim because he was not prepared. He could have been a guy who had a fun time in china, but because he wasn't prepared for this type of situation he got burned big time.
Hope you have learned a lesson and if you cannot have a plan for dealing with this type of situation it is best you don't come to china to live
His passport was locked inside the house that he was in. She broke the door in and went crazy. He should have contacted the consulate, I agree.
he states several times that he did just that
don't forget to contact your consulate
in case you're interested: etc, not ect
His first bad decision: get me some free Chinese poosy.
This type of rather 'unsavory' behavior is happening in every country. One approach, wherever a person may reside or when visiting would be to 'keep your cards very close' at hand. In other words, the less people know about you, the safer you will be.
8:20
How was it wrong?! Self defense is a human right.
Never pay your way out of trouble like that. They always come back for more.
It's actually a Chinese saying, When there is a will to convict there is evidence.
I really like the editing skills, funny haha
Let's be honest. Being an Asian I can tell you that scamming is a part of China. It might not be a part of the culture, but it's communism that builds and it gets improved over time. I can assure that you'll get things like that in Vietnam too, but maybe not in a such complicated situation like in China. Poor lad, might God put him in a better path.
The whole world is like that. Even in the US. The difference is that the US is more subtle and does it in a "legal" way. You fools are just too dumb and naive to believe the media.
It's a part of human nature there are good people bad people everywhere I really wanna know which country are you from ?
Lesson:Dont go to china unless youre chinese problem solved. Plus chinese hate dark skin people.
There are fraudsters everywhere. But at least most of the time courts in Pakistan see through bullshit the cops and the plaintiff are saying and do what is right. In China it seems police and courts just don't do anything but repress anti party sentiment and that's it.
Sorry but no. Back-handing her after doing all that was not wrong.
I'm all about treating women with respect and chivalry however, if she wants to fight like a man, she's getting hit like a man.
Threats to people or property must be eliminated with extreme prejudice. Firstly, he could have been sued by his landlord or the other people in his apartment if she did more damage or harmed them. Secondly, there's much to be said for being the one who goes to the cops with a bunch of evidence and witness testimonies, with a trussed up assailant in tow.
Saying sorry or admitting to any wrongdoing in public in China will get you spit-roasted. Be first, be aggressive.
Thank you!!!! She lucky she didnt get knocked out
In us it’s called domestic violence, you will be arrested immediately much worse than the guy in this video or even got shot to death if you resist the Arrest!
Im with you usually but in China you have no rights..They would throw u in prison and you would be there for years.
Real men don't have to back-hand a female tbh. If you have any strength you can restrain her without causing real harm.
Thanks for the video , it is full of good information .
Crazy! Man, it makes me very weary about being cool with any Mainlander. I've had some experiences, but very minor compared to this.
Well done, Winston. Please continue to share these experiences of western foreigners being exploited. This is not unique to China. These types of scams are rampant throughout Southeast Asia, also.
+Pokeball Westeners?? Have you ever been to any Asian tourist country? Its full of black and middle eastern MEN. Often running some scam themselfs. Thinking they are the top of the World.
Its also strange that a lot of Westen women also are seen in Asia, but almost no black or middle-eastern....Im just saying!
Thanks great video!
Thank goodness this guy and his girl are safe and moving on with life. It is very sad to hear this story happening in China. I had such an amazing experience there in 2009 and am very much looking forward to getting back to China in 2020. As always, thank you Winston, for putting all of your videos out there for us to help us prepare for staying safe in China. Cheers, bro!
That wasn't me, this is an imposter using the same name and avatar as me, I've already reported him to youtube
Honestly that wasn't me, I've just made a video about it: ua-cam.com/video/ZGLRg1G9nlk/v-deo.html I'm sorry mate, I really don't know what to say, I'd never be that rude to you or any of my subscribers for that matter
Just flagged another one just hover over the name you will see the difference.
Larkhill21 z
Yes its turue I was robbed $3000 befriending one..TRUST NO ONE !,,,,stay safe....✌ ......
How can u share ur story
why was back handed her wrong? She broke in the your house, got your passport, assaults you and runs away with important documents
Because once she is no longer threat to your phsyical safey your recourse is contact police, not beating her. and don't think its not beating if you have a fun term for it, like back handing. go to jail.
My take on his story is the girl wasn't a scammer or didn't have bad intentions to start with but certainly got some issues (like jealousy). But when their relationship went downhill which I assume because he was just playing with her and cheating with her - she decided to go fcking mental and take revenge, and this is where all her family joined in and wanted compensation and turned this all thing into extortion.
Family might be hired thugs working on 50% comission.
Couple of issues/points with the story
1. Appartment doors in china are normally heavy / reinforced as such i cant see how a woman would break it in
2. You have more than one passport, why not get an emergency passport and just leave?
3. Dont do the dirt and you wont get hurt
4. Time to find the other girl and get her side of the story!
1. Not all doors are built this way and a lot are broken from low maintenance.
2. He did leave. Sometimes your life is so wrapped up in the current things you are doing you dont do what keeps you the safest.
3. I agree with this
4. Jealous, vengeful people will do anything to hurt another, especially insecure Chinese women. Her word would of been most likely shit.
Exactly! i mean, her face is now online, has been seen by thousands, has been slandered to a certain extent and if she will bite chunks out of you when shes angry what would she not do when shes in the mood (oh yeah)
This would make the best jeremy kyle /jerry springer show ever
+David Gaudet
at 8:36 he said he "locked the door"after he pushed her out his apartment, if "she broke the door" is true, it would make "locked the door" questionable, if he lied about "she broke the door" then what else is true. this video makes no sense
the only way to sort this especially as her picture was put online is to find her and let her speak!!
There were two doors, the first one is the community entrance door to the building, chinese are known to maintain nothing, it probably was already broken and she broke it, not his apartment door.
Well, I love the performing artist Lang Lang. He's given several concerts here in Santa Barbara at the Granada Theater. I think he's moved to the U.S. though. He wrote an autobiography when he was still in his twenties that gave a fascinating portrayal of the intense competition among up and coming classical musicians (some of the best in the world) in China, including one experience that nearly brought him to suicide.
And this is very informative, thank you.
Find a local mob give them money to take care of that if it's going to those extremes ...
That's what she did. Rent a bad uncle dot com.
haha :D
and then you have a bitch and the mob extorting you!
What a F-ing nightmare!!!
Great show...
If she broke your door, How did you lock her out?!
And a normal girl broke a locked door? Is she wonder woman?
I also noticed that inconsistency.
you guys don't know the door (perhaps it was shit), the girl (perhaps she had opened doors before, it ain't impossible), if there is a double even a triple lock on the door (like I had), yet there you are solving the mistery.
He laughs about being a "scoundrel" and the brand new girlfriend still sits beside him like a faithful puppy. if he cheats or misleads the one before you, he won't hesitate to cheat or mislead you.
Sometimes its the woman gives the guy the money some sob story how he will be beaten up by his ex's family or 30% return per month investment. She is then trapped in the relationship believing one day she will get it back but only gives more. They went after him a bit hard for just a broken relationship.
+DavidRsaid Maybe she didn't think she had any other option A: Divorce him now and be lost in China B: Divorce him later in back in America or something (Thats probaly what she did)
A nimation I don't understand your meaning - they weren't married, but had been a boyfriend/girlfriend - then he apparently started seeing someone else and they broke up. I don't understand how you mean the word 'divorce' - in the States, it's used for the end of a marriage. Personally, I think the first girl was lucky to be done with the cheater.
the video poster is just 'letting steam out' - perhaps its just his 'culture' of doing so. At least he'll be more careful (hopefully) when dealing with other people of different cultures in the future.
Maybe the arrangement of girl friend is different there
Hey serpentza i hope to see your next avdchina series soon. Your avdchina series have been amazing.
True story. law in China is so unfair and is enforced according to which side has more power, can give more pressure on the law enforcement department.
It annoys almost everyone. i'm sorry. not annoyed, were pissed off. to be exact.
I had been living there for 40 years and finally I managed to escape
happy for you! I escaped on June 5th 2022 - I will celebrate that as a personal holiday for the rest of my life. I will never take my freedom for granted ever again!
A great video Winston that showed how quickly things can get out of hand when living in a foreign country. I know from experience living in Asea, that as I foreigner I was vulnerable and to the native population I was seen as just a rich white guy. I tend to keep myself to myself and stay away from trouble. What made me vulnerable was that I was not a citizen and was not entitled to the same rights as the native population. Luckily, I stayed out of trouble. This experience was completely different to how I imagined, before traveling.
The first thing you should have done is call your consulate or embassy and get protection or help..
Ah ah ah you are so naïve..... Consulat will laugh at you !!!
One advice to you: never travel to china, you won't make it safe.....
I think I might have been tempted to make an example out of the first "relative" of the girl who made an aggressive move. I know you said they have a mob mentality, but I've seen such mobs break up quickly as soon as the first guy goes down.
I was thinking the same thing; he should have tossed the leader of the group around a little to test the waters to see how far they were willing to go.
Thanks Winston for this topic, and thanks for both of your friend. I just thinking to expand my business to China mainland, and should be careful ....
A FOOL and his passport will soon be parted.
This guy is straight up dodgy. His answer are crap. Something went on and he's hiding it.
two sides..
It sounds a bit like bullshit but maybe he was drunk
He got involved with the girl.and next he wanted to dump her. But in china that's not acceptable . ( See other Winston video where he says that. When Chinese ladies date it is to marry ) . After she got dumped she decided to avenge herself. If you don't want problem don't date Chinese girl if you don't want to marry her
@@Pedro-em3ik so you are saying you should marry a girl even if you find out she is shit after you date her for a while
Did the dude in this video say that he was basically cheating on the crazy Chinese extorsionist chick?
Cuz if that's how all this started he kinda got what he deserved