I'm really curious to find out if anyone else is using the Deity TC-1, or any other timecode system, alongside the Rode Wireless Pro. Also, if you're using another timecode system in combination with a different wireless mic system, is it more user-friendly? I'm curious!
Good content. If you want any feedback that might help you grow; The second angle and jump cuts are pretty distracting and jarring (also white balance is off), might want to invest in a teleprompter if you don’t have one and nail the takes rather than relying on the second cam to cut to. B-roll would be better to cut to than just a second angle of you talking
Thanks for the input! I’m with ya on the second camera angle. It got a little choppy and I think simplifying may be the best way to go in the future. Which angle is the white balance off? Or are they both off? Because I was using one warm and one cool accent light, I was balancing off of a white balance card, and all the specs said it was clean (as well as proper exposure using false color). I do have a teleprompter on the primary angle, and I’ll probably just stick with that and broll going forward. Simplifies the process too.
By looking at the skin tones and the colour of the box the second angle appears to be looking too blue. Maybe because of the angles of the lights it could have caused a colour cast on the white balance card, better to set the cameras white balance in camera to be the same if they are the same model of camera. Lenses can also have their own colour tint to them too which can throw things out a bit, as well as ND filters. But yeah I think simplifying to 1 angle for the talking and using b-roll will save you time and also easier on you not having to worry about switching back and forth between cameras.@@DetailsMatterTV
It didn't take away from what he was teaching and sharing! Thanks DetailsMatter. I learned a lot. I really wasn't looking really looking a the aesthetics of the video. Thanks for the knowledge
I would've liked to have seen some comments on how the Rode system works with other lavalier microphones. I've tried it with Sony mics and it doesn't work. I also have a Sennheiser lav mic.
Thank you my friend! I appreciate your encouragement. I love this system. It’s so good. A lot of filmmakers are turning to it because of the pro features. I know people that are running the system to a mixpre or zoom f6.
The RODE Wireless Pro is my favorite, but it does not deserve the 'Pro' moniker. Also, you must be trying to make a MultiCam in Premiere because you have to work so hard at it. Now for the details: 'Pro' systems do not have prominent branding to photo-bomb the camera. Pro systems do not have reflective surfaces to flash studio lights into the camera (as seen in a RODE-produced video!). Pro systems do not make a lockable lav ring that loosens on one side when you think you're locking on the other side! That last part ruined a recording when I forgot to warn a producer that RODE has a crazy stupid, non-intuitive way of locking the lav to a transmitter. The locking ring operation is NOT INTUITIVE! Why does a user need a class to know how to use the locking ring on the lav? But, as I say, the Wireless Pro system is still my favorite. But, I curse RODE for the low-class, non-Pro big branding on all three units and the surface reflectivity on the receiver. 'Pro' systems don't do that! Timecode? It's a lot of work to get it set up on the RODE Wireless Pro system. There's a MUCH better way to sync'ing clips in a MultiCam using Final Cut. It's called First Marker. After the shoot, I put a marker on something I can identify in all the angles and Final Cut will look at the audio ONLY AROUND the marker and compare it with the audio around the other markers and then sync the AUDIO (NOT the markers! The markers only guide Final Cut to a small bit of audio around each marker to frame-match the clips) perfectly, even if you weren't exactly right in placing the marker. My hour-long, six angle multicam is sync'ed in less than a minute. So, I edit FAR FASTER NOT USING TIMECODE! Got a camera that was starting and stopping during the shoot? Not a problem in Final Cut. A marker on the first clip, then all other clips with the same angle name will appear on the same track in their correct positions. Finally, my one question here is: What do you think is the best setting when exporting audio from RODE Central?
I also was just browsing your channel and realized I need to learn how to make chapters and just read this… I guess it may be some time before will need to worry a bit that! 😊 Make sure your channel has more than 1,000 subscribers. UA-cam chapters are only available to channels with more than 1,000 subscribers. - May 16, 2024
Hey! I'm curious.I own at one point the wireless go II I was able to access my Internal audio files via my ipad And smartphone is well Is obviously my mac! I upgraded To the wireless pro and now I can only grab the audio When they are hooked up to my computer , I wonder why that is??
Glad to hear that this new system doesn't require the RØDE software to get the audio files off of the transmitters. This makes me actually want to get it.
@@JaredRibic yeah, you can pull the audio track right off of the transmitter now, just like you can with the wireless Pro. They did a firmware update maybe a year ago that fixed that really dumb issue.
Do you happen to know if there's any way to get the Rode WP timecode to sync/match or drive the timecode on an iPhone app such as the Blackmagic? I tried it and it's not the same even if they are both set to real time of day timecode . . . .
You cannot mute from the RX; you'll need to mute the TX if you set up the 'Ø' in RØDE Central. The lack of this option significantly reduces the functionality of this set. You can't do it with software, either. What a stupid idea not to provide such an option-unless someone knows how to do it remotely.
I just received my Rode Wireless Pros today and so far am very impressed with the sound quality. Was outside recording a test podcast in the wind with the dead cats on, using the default settings and we were so impressed! I didn’t read closely about setting the O button on each tx and thought I was placing markers as we were recording when I was actually muting myself! lol Btw - I have much respect for the UA-camrs I watch online. Until one actually starts doing it, they have no idea of how much work is required to pull of a quality production; yours included. I am not at the level of critiquing white balance and didn’t even notice it as a problem and the scene switching I thought that was neat and saw it as a break point in editing. Your video impressed me and the helpful comments from the others have made me think of how to make my recording professional. I’m not even out there yet! All private test recordings so far and not even close to what you have got going on. IMO you are well on your way and have another sub from me! Also, you must have used the Lavalier microphone and must have had it tucked away as I couldn’t see it. Sound quality was very good from it too! Cheers everyone!
Good content. Accessible. Good presentation. Well scripted. Well lit. Good audio. The B roll choices were nice. But cutting to a different camera angle every four seconds was extremely distracting. I wouldn’t think doing this level of technical explanation, you’d need to optimize it that much for the short attention span theater crowd.
Yea you’re absolutely right. That was the general consensus from many other people here in the comments as well. Going forward I think I’ll only utilize a second camera angle for specific situations. Thank you for your feedback and encouragement. I really appreciate it.
Sir Video recording after sitting in the supercar and closing the door There is no sound of the car, only talking, test it like this and record a video Noise should not come i.e. carriage sound should not come only talking
No you have to make sure the mic’s transmitter is recording. The 32bit float track will be found recorded separately from your camera on the transmitter itself.
I own the Deity Connect system - but I own the kit that comes with 2 BP-TRX units (like you showed), plus a 2 channel receiver. It also comes with 2 of the Pro Lavs that Deity makes, which are like $180 apiece I believe. I like the system, and haven't really had any issues with it. It's not quite as dummy-proof as my Rode Go II system, but feels a bit more robust. Both transceivers and receiver have external antennas so I'm guessing signal performance is better on the Deity Connect than any of the small systems with internal antennae. I would pick the Go II or Rode Pro systems over the Deity Connect for weddings. One benefit of the Deity BP-TRX units is that all the functions can be easily accessed thru the on board screen and menu - I've found the limited functionality on the Go II units to be frustrating.
Yo thank you for this info! I’ve struggled to find someone with this system and hear their perspective. Thank you for sharing your experience and your feedback
@@DetailsMatterTV deity actually just announced (or maybe released?) a new kit that replaces the Connect, called the Theos. This one looks much more robust and pro-level than the Connect, mainly because it doesn't use 2.4GHz signals, so it's less prone to interference from wifi and other consumer devices. It's $1000 tho so it's in a different price bracket.
Yea I almost preordered the Theos, primarily because it’s turnkey with the TC-1 timecode system that I use. But it’s got all the bells and whistles and it looks really nice, just a steep price tag. Also, when I read the small print, I think the US version will not include the onboard recording, only transmission to the receiver. Do you know if that’s correct?
Good question. I’d have to look at its functionality. I do have the Ninja V+ and the Shogun Connect and I think they both accept or offer timecode, but I’ve never used it. But if you can jam timecode into the monitor/recorder, my guess it would be a fairly simple process.
The information here was very detailed and nicely done. I have the very first wireless go model when it launched as single receiver and mic unit. I didn’t know they came out with other models but you nailed it.
Thank you so much!! Super grateful for your positive feedback. Sometimes the comment section can get ruthless, so it’s encouraging to hear comments like yours.
Thank you for your extremely thorough review! My Rode Wireless Pro system is arriving on Feb 3rd and I'm excited to use it. My buddy (fellow Brit) and I do an audio podcast called The Wrong Side of Hollywood, and so with this system we are hoping to record more shows and videos out in the field. Thank you.
You’ll love it! The 32bit float and timecode features are extremely useful and makes post production pretty streamlined. I’m working on a video comparing the Rode Wireless pro and wireless go II system against the newest Saramonic Blink 500 ProX two person system, which is solid for the price-point. Thank you for the comment and encouragement! I’ll definitely be checking out your podcast brother 🤜🤛
Amazing review! High quality content and editing! You’re a true professional! The EDM music was so inspiring too! God bless you and your family! Keep up the good work!
using wireless pro along with deity tc1 (3 pack) just starting to upgrade all my equip for timecode. using blackmagic 6k pro and canon r7, jam tc from wireless pro to tc-1 tskes a little fussing with settings but system works great. tc to blackmagic 6k just WORKS!!! canon r7 is audio timecode havent quite got all bugs worked out but very promising!! also using tascam x8 which will accept tc from ultrasync blue, BUT U NEED ULTRASUNC ONE to tie it all together, now we r talking about a lo of tweaking to get it all on same tc!!! and a lot more $$ than i wanted to sink in biz but once u start it takes a lot of syncing havent FIELD TESTED YET!!
Yea diving into the timecode feature wasn’t the most simple to figure out, but now that i understand how it works it’s pretty simple. I haven’t tried the timecode with the audio channel yet but I imagine it’s the same (once you do it it’ll be turnkey). I like the functionality of the Wireless pro with the TC-1. So handy. Thanks for the comment.
I'm pumped to hear this Marshall. Thanks for the comment. I'm excited to hear that my content is useful! Media production and your storytelling will change lives. Hopefully, my content can help make the learning curve just a little shorter.
Could you perform a pratical noisefloor test? Simply record a clip of yourself saying a sentence and then waiting a few seconds in a quiet room. After that simply normalise the audio of your voice to ~ 23lufs and measuring the background noise afterwards :) i wanna know if the actual electronics inside the Pro version changed too! Heres a timecodelink of another Review on how to do it: ua-cam.com/video/f_zOcqD-Jak/v-deo.html
The thing is, I got a 4 to 1 setting from a brand called Malada. Only paid $270 USD and the all work together. Meaning I can record to the camera or a Zoom, computer, or whatever I want. So I can record 4 at one time. Sweet!
@@terrygriffin5201 yea for sure, I definitely hear ya. Different tools for different jobs. This one got me with the 32bit float quality and the timecode integration. I rarely use my camera’s audio, and if I run multi tracks thru a recorder it’s either my 6 channel Zoom F6 or the Rodecaster Pro 2.
@@DetailsMatterTV You know the Zoom F6 & F3 also has 32float recording,.... I usually just bring it in the computer and edit anyway... But it is good go know manufacturers are stepping up.
I'm really curious to find out if anyone else is using the Deity TC-1, or any other timecode system, alongside the Rode Wireless Pro. Also, if you're using another timecode system in combination with a different wireless mic system, is it more user-friendly? I'm curious!
Good content. If you want any feedback that might help you grow; The second angle and jump cuts are pretty distracting and jarring (also white balance is off), might want to invest in a teleprompter if you don’t have one and nail the takes rather than relying on the second cam to cut to. B-roll would be better to cut to than just a second angle of you talking
Thanks for the input! I’m with ya on the second camera angle. It got a little choppy and I think simplifying may be the best way to go in the future. Which angle is the white balance off? Or are they both off? Because I was using one warm and one cool accent light, I was balancing off of a white balance card, and all the specs said it was clean (as well as proper exposure using false color). I do have a teleprompter on the primary angle, and I’ll probably just stick with that and broll going forward. Simplifies the process too.
The white balance on the second angle is off
By looking at the skin tones and the colour of the box the second angle appears to be looking too blue. Maybe because of the angles of the lights it could have caused a colour cast on the white balance card, better to set the cameras white balance in camera to be the same if they are the same model of camera. Lenses can also have their own colour tint to them too which can throw things out a bit, as well as ND filters. But yeah I think simplifying to 1 angle for the talking and using b-roll will save you time and also easier on you not having to worry about switching back and forth between cameras.@@DetailsMatterTV
@@daletidy. great input. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
It didn't take away from what he was teaching and sharing! Thanks DetailsMatter. I learned a lot. I really wasn't looking really looking a the aesthetics of the video. Thanks for the knowledge
I would've liked to have seen some comments on how the Rode system works with other lavalier microphones. I've tried it with Sony mics and it doesn't work. I also have a Sennheiser lav mic.
Interesting. I wonder if it has something to do with the locking mechanism 🤷♂
Thank you so much sir for your packaged information.
You’re very welcome. Thank you for watching.
Thank you for your presentation. AWESOME. I do have this system also.
Thank you my friend! I appreciate your encouragement. I love this system. It’s so good. A lot of filmmakers are turning to it because of the pro features. I know people that are running the system to a mixpre or zoom f6.
The RODE Wireless Pro is my favorite, but it does not deserve the 'Pro' moniker. Also, you must be trying to make a MultiCam in Premiere because you have to work so hard at it.
Now for the details:
'Pro' systems do not have prominent branding to photo-bomb the camera. Pro systems do not have reflective surfaces to flash studio lights into the camera (as seen in a RODE-produced video!). Pro systems do not make a lockable lav ring that loosens on one side when you think you're locking on the other side! That last part ruined a recording when I forgot to warn a producer that RODE has a crazy stupid, non-intuitive way of locking the lav to a transmitter. The locking ring operation is NOT INTUITIVE! Why does a user need a class to know how to use the locking ring on the lav?
But, as I say, the Wireless Pro system is still my favorite. But, I curse RODE for the low-class, non-Pro big branding on all three units and the surface reflectivity on the receiver. 'Pro' systems don't do that!
Timecode? It's a lot of work to get it set up on the RODE Wireless Pro system. There's a MUCH better way to sync'ing clips in a MultiCam using Final Cut. It's called First Marker. After the shoot, I put a marker on something I can identify in all the angles and Final Cut will look at the audio ONLY AROUND the marker and compare it with the audio around the other markers and then sync the AUDIO (NOT the markers! The markers only guide Final Cut to a small bit of audio around each marker to frame-match the clips) perfectly, even if you weren't exactly right in placing the marker. My hour-long, six angle multicam is sync'ed in less than a minute. So, I edit FAR FASTER NOT USING TIMECODE! Got a camera that was starting and stopping during the shoot? Not a problem in Final Cut. A marker on the first clip, then all other clips with the same angle name will appear on the same track in their correct positions.
Finally, my one question here is: What do you think is the best setting when exporting audio from RODE Central?
I also was just browsing your channel and realized I need to learn how to make chapters and just read this…
I guess it may be some time before will need to worry a bit that! 😊
Make sure your channel has more than 1,000 subscribers. UA-cam chapters are only available to channels with more than 1,000 subscribers. - May 16, 2024
Thanks for the feedback 💪.
Hey! I'm curious.I own at one point the wireless go II I was able to access my Internal audio files via my ipad And smartphone is well Is obviously my mac! I upgraded To the wireless pro and now I can only grab the audio When they are hooked up to my computer , I wonder why that is??
Glad to hear that this new system doesn't require the RØDE software to get the audio files off of the transmitters.
This makes me actually want to get it.
I know, right?! That was really frustrating prior to that firmware update on the Wireless GO II.
@@DetailsMatterTV - Didn't know about the firmware update. I'll check that out right now.
Still, having 32-bit-float would be nice.
@@JaredRibic yeah, you can pull the audio track right off of the transmitter now, just like you can with the wireless Pro. They did a firmware update maybe a year ago that fixed that really dumb issue.
Do you happen to know if there's any way to get the Rode WP timecode to sync/match or drive the timecode on an iPhone app such as the Blackmagic? I tried it and it's not the same even if they are both set to real time of day timecode . . . .
What mic are you using on this video at your desk?
I used the Rode Wireless Pro throughout this whole video.
Can you record time code and audio with these
You cannot mute from the RX; you'll need to mute the TX if you set up the 'Ø' in RØDE Central. The lack of this option significantly reduces the functionality of this set. You can't do it with software, either. What a stupid idea not to provide such an option-unless someone knows how to do it remotely.
I just received my Rode Wireless Pros today and so far am very impressed with the sound quality. Was outside recording a test podcast in the wind with the dead cats on, using the default settings and we were so impressed! I didn’t read closely about setting the O button on each tx and thought I was placing markers as we were recording when I was actually muting myself! lol
Btw - I have much respect for the UA-camrs I watch online. Until one actually starts doing it, they have no idea of how much work is required to pull of a quality production; yours included. I am not at the level of critiquing white balance and didn’t even notice it as a problem and the scene switching I thought that was neat and saw it as a break point in editing. Your video impressed me and the helpful comments from the others have made me think of how to make my recording professional. I’m not even out there yet! All private test recordings so far and not even close to what you have got going on. IMO you are well on your way and have another sub from me! Also, you must have used the Lavalier microphone and must have had it tucked away as I couldn’t see it. Sound quality was very good from it too! Cheers everyone!
Good content. Accessible. Good presentation. Well scripted. Well lit. Good audio. The B roll choices were nice. But cutting to a different camera angle every four seconds was extremely distracting. I wouldn’t think doing this level of technical explanation, you’d need to optimize it that much for the short attention span theater crowd.
Yea you’re absolutely right. That was the general consensus from many other people here in the comments as well. Going forward I think I’ll only utilize a second camera angle for specific situations. Thank you for your feedback and encouragement. I really appreciate it.
Amazing video thank you
I’m humbled. Thank you for the encouragement my friend
22:58 likewise!! I had an issue with the RWGII .. and they replaced it! Their customer service is A1!!
Exactly 🫡
Sir Video recording after sitting in the supercar and closing the door
There is no sound of the car, only talking, test it like this and record a video Noise should not come i.e. carriage sound should not come only talking
😂 I’ll keep that in mind patna 😆
So ya hit record on your cam and the 32bit triggers record aswell?
No you have to make sure the mic’s transmitter is recording. The 32bit float track will be found recorded separately from your camera on the transmitter itself.
If it's ok with you may I from time to time ask a few questions?
Heck yea! It would be my pleasure my friend.
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I own the Deity Connect system - but I own the kit that comes with 2 BP-TRX units (like you showed), plus a 2 channel receiver.
It also comes with 2 of the Pro Lavs that Deity makes, which are like $180 apiece I believe.
I like the system, and haven't really had any issues with it. It's not quite as dummy-proof as my Rode Go II system, but feels a bit more robust. Both transceivers and receiver have external antennas so I'm guessing signal performance is better on the Deity Connect than any of the small systems with internal antennae.
I would pick the Go II or Rode Pro systems over the Deity Connect for weddings.
One benefit of the Deity BP-TRX units is that all the functions can be easily accessed thru the on board screen and menu - I've found the limited functionality on the Go II units to be frustrating.
Yo thank you for this info! I’ve struggled to find someone with this system and hear their perspective. Thank you for sharing your experience and your feedback
@@DetailsMatterTV deity actually just announced (or maybe released?) a new kit that replaces the Connect, called the Theos. This one looks much more robust and pro-level than the Connect, mainly because it doesn't use 2.4GHz signals, so it's less prone to interference from wifi and other consumer devices. It's $1000 tho so it's in a different price bracket.
Yea I almost preordered the Theos, primarily because it’s turnkey with the TC-1 timecode system that I use. But it’s got all the bells and whistles and it looks really nice, just a steep price tag. Also, when I read the small print, I think the US version will not include the onboard recording, only transmission to the receiver. Do you know if that’s correct?
That timecode looks complicated to use. I guess if you use it after it’s like anything else and becomes turnkey.
Exactly.
Great detailed review. I appreciate the thoroughness. Cheers
Thank you for the encouragement and for the comment
Awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it
How can you sync tc to atomos ninjas?
Good question. I’d have to look at its functionality. I do have the Ninja V+ and the Shogun Connect and I think they both accept or offer timecode, but I’ve never used it. But if you can jam timecode into the monitor/recorder, my guess it would be a fairly simple process.
The information here was very detailed and nicely done. I have the very first wireless go model when it launched as single receiver and mic unit. I didn’t know they came out with other models but you nailed it.
Thank you so much!! Super grateful for your positive feedback. Sometimes the comment section can get ruthless, so it’s encouraging to hear comments like yours.
Thank you for your extremely thorough review! My Rode Wireless Pro system is arriving on Feb 3rd and I'm excited to use it. My buddy (fellow Brit) and I do an audio podcast called The Wrong Side of Hollywood, and so with this system we are hoping to record more shows and videos out in the field. Thank you.
You’ll love it! The 32bit float and timecode features are extremely useful and makes post production pretty streamlined. I’m working on a video comparing the Rode Wireless pro and wireless go II system against the newest Saramonic Blink 500 ProX two person system, which is solid for the price-point.
Thank you for the comment and encouragement! I’ll definitely be checking out your podcast brother 🤜🤛
Amazing review! High quality content and editing! You’re a true professional! The EDM music was so inspiring too! God bless you and your family! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! I'm grateful for your encouragement. God bless you and your family as well!
Super detailed review! I will be watching this one again as I'm in the market for a wireless mic setup for filming my own stuff. Thanks and take care!
Thank you for your encouragement Mike! I'm fighting to help people like you make informed gear choices. Thank you for watching.
using wireless pro along with deity tc1 (3 pack) just starting to upgrade all my equip for timecode. using blackmagic 6k pro and canon r7, jam tc from wireless pro to tc-1 tskes a little fussing with settings but system works great. tc to blackmagic 6k just WORKS!!! canon r7 is audio timecode havent quite got all bugs worked out but very promising!! also using tascam x8 which will accept tc from ultrasync blue, BUT U NEED ULTRASUNC ONE to tie it all together, now we r talking about a lo of tweaking to get it all on same tc!!! and a lot more $$ than i wanted to sink in biz but once u start it takes a lot of syncing havent FIELD TESTED YET!!
Yea diving into the timecode feature wasn’t the most simple to figure out, but now that i understand how it works it’s pretty simple. I haven’t tried the timecode with the audio channel yet but I imagine it’s the same (once you do it it’ll be turnkey). I like the functionality of the Wireless pro with the TC-1. So handy.
Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for the detailed video. Just started using this kit myself. I'm new to video and audio, and it has really improved my output!
I'm pumped to hear this Marshall. Thanks for the comment. I'm excited to hear that my content is useful! Media production and your storytelling will change lives. Hopefully, my content can help make the learning curve just a little shorter.
Underrated channel
I’m humbled by the encouragement. Thank you!
Awesome review bro!! I really appreciate the details you went into and explained!
Thank you my friend! Hopefully people find it useful and thorough like you 🤜🤛
My piggy bank is sweating,,,
😂 as it should be
Could you perform a pratical noisefloor test? Simply record a clip of yourself saying a sentence and then waiting a few seconds in a quiet room. After that simply normalise the audio of your voice to ~ 23lufs and measuring the background noise afterwards :) i wanna know if the actual electronics inside the Pro version changed too!
Heres a timecodelink of another Review on how to do it:
ua-cam.com/video/f_zOcqD-Jak/v-deo.html
I can do that. I’ll do it as a short or something. Thanks for the suggestion
@@DetailsMatterTV thank you very much :)
@@DetailsMatterTV and please use the same external lavalier microphone for both rode systems, as the internal ones are different
@@lynes2peters438other reviewers have done it, just look around more
Good review on the Rode Wireless!!
Thank you Richard
Question, seeing as you have 3 transmitters now… can you connect 3 to one receiver?
No unfortunately not. But you can always pull the audio track off of the third transmitter and sync it with the other audio.
The thing is, I got a 4 to 1 setting from a brand called Malada. Only paid $270 USD and the all work together. Meaning I can record to the camera or a Zoom, computer, or whatever I want. So I can record 4 at one time. Sweet!
@@terrygriffin5201 yea for sure, I definitely hear ya. Different tools for different jobs. This one got me with the 32bit float quality and the timecode integration. I rarely use my camera’s audio, and if I run multi tracks thru a recorder it’s either my 6 channel Zoom F6 or the Rodecaster Pro 2.
@@DetailsMatterTV You know the Zoom F6 & F3 also has 32float recording,.... I usually just bring it in the computer and edit anyway... But it is good go know manufacturers are stepping up.
@@terrygriffin5201 100%. They’re pushing the other manufacturers to make better products at an affordable price