Magic Confronts Karl Malone on HIV Concerns 😯 1992
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Magic johnson & karl malone were two men you didn’t see having beef. during the young 1990’s, most people knew little about the HIV virus and it’s contract-ability in sports. Karl Malone was a perfect example of this ignorance when he refused to play in games against Magic Johnson who had just a year earlier announced to the world his hiv status. Malone’s comments, whispers around the NBA and an open wound during a recent pre season forced Magic to pull out of his comeback season with the lakers.
here’s a #shorts from a larger interview with Chris Wallace which can be found in its entirety here:
Magic Johnson ROCK BOTTOM - The FULL Chris Wallace Interview ua-cam.com/video/jl6ryIGtJqs/v-deo.html
I'd rather play with majic than a public ruled s3x offender
The best response to this drama was from Charles Barkley. The reporter gave Malone's comment and asked Barkley how he felt and he replied "We're just playing ball with the man, not trying to #$%k him".
Is there video of him saying that
Is there
You can pull up the story. A bunch of papers and magazines wrote about including Sports Illustrated. The first I saw report was Stuart Scott when he hosted the NBA on ESPN. There were no social media then, so things weren't going viral in just minutes.
Interpretation you have no proof to present that he said such a foul thing.
When Charles Barkley decided to wear #32 to honor Magic Johnson who had recently announced he was HIV+, he responded to concerns that players would contract HIV by playing with Magic by saying, "We're just playing basketball. It's not like we're going out to have unprotected sex with Magic
Karl should have this energy towards underaged girls aswell oops
And I...
Oooop
😂😂😂😂😂
@Scott Lyman hey we all have our vices. Some of us are addicted to coffee, or maybe drink a bit too much, for Malone it's literal paedophilia. Who are we to judge, right? (/s)
@Scott Lyman all yall some haters 🤡🤡🤡🖕🖕
Karl isn't HIV+ from sleeping around,bozo
ik karl malone ain’t talkin
He’s spitting facts
Ain’t like Karl had aids tho he just did some nasty shit in his early 20s but that’s not a disease you transfer to someone from blood to skin contact lol
@@VashTheDamnFiend 👈🏾🤡 no hes not dummy
Right lol
@@smithwill7440 you must be gay
Thank you Jordan and Bulls for preventing Malone from winning a Title!
Huge Bulls fan eh
Don't forget about the 04 Pistons.
@@bigcat6141 Hater
@Nocturnal Entity Pressed over a crime he did over 30+ years ago. You a soft mf 💀
@Nocturnal Entity I’m not a Jazz fan bro. I just find it stupid how y’all hate on him over a crime that was 30+ years ago
If Magic had played that season, he would've won DPOY.
@Scott Lyman because back in the day there was a belief especially at the start of the HIV/AIDS epidemic, there was a belief that you could transmit the virus through sweat and even contact so his joke is basically everyone would refused to get guarded by him technically shutting every player down Magic guarder.
@@SoberBob559 oh shit that’s dark
@@sassysalmon93 it’s another Rudy Gobert covid type of joke
😂 you sick
LOOOL
Let’s be honest, Malone said what a whole lot of people were thinking back then… he just had the balls 🏀 to say it everybody was terrified
no he was being ignorant. plus he should’ve been the last one saying anything like that. he’s a pedophile and a deadbeat dad.
This is an awesome clip where Magic Doesn't Confront Karl Malone, in any part of it.
Magic penetrates down the middle, he goes all the way. Chick Hearn knew what he was doing LOL
Lmao
😆😆😆😆
Yooo 😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ohh but he jammed the wrong ring!
Exactly that start was crazy
Karl malone should have had this energy in raising his kids that he disowned
Or the 12 year old he got pregnant at 21
Karl is a punk..he eats in a restaurant. You don't know if that server is sick with a cold,or WORSE "??. SMH
Malone no angel but y'all have to understand the context, this was early 90s, ppl misinformed abt hiv, and not to mention the stigma. Y'all can relate with malone concern if y'all live in that era
Did you live in that era? Because I can tell you you're massively overexaggerating it
Facts bro u 💯percent right... everything was mistreated the wrong way tho...
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn No exaggeration. For most of the public at that time, HIV = AIDS = a slow death. It was most often referred to in print etc as HIV/AIDS.
Nah, Karl Malone was/is a POS. One of the all-time great NBAers but a terrible, terrible person.
I think we understand since we lived through a similar thing past two years.
Man Karl got other problems man some men should look in the gotdamn mirror and keep their hands off little girls straight up
Though i agree that Malone is behaving like a caveman when looking back today but you have to consider the era this took place in. Before Magic announced, we only had a few terrifying public cases of AIDS. we had all just watched Rock Hudson whither away and die. Same w liberaci. But freshest on the mind was occurring simultaneously, Freddie Mercury had just died a horrifically public death (purposely public).
We all thought Magic was a goner. Fans, teammates, lakers front office… Magic defied the rules again and look at him today.
Magic isn’t given enough credit for the awareness he brought to that plague. He showed the world that anything is possible.
@@NBAHistoryCLNS I feel you and I understand that completely. I just have a problem with the whole pot calling the kettle black situation. It’s like, how can you convey your disgust for another man when you have your own demons that are arguably worse? You can’t diddle kids one day and then say you’re scared you might get cooties the next! That’s some wild stuff!!
Maybe Magic should have worn a comdom. Did he ever explain how he got aids?
@JudgeDredd_ , they aren't related. One is a crime, and the other is an infectious virus. It isn't a crime nor battling inner demons to be infected with a killer virus, especially if a person gets infected through no fault of their own. I'm not saying that Magic Johnson was not responsible for getting infected. I believe he admitted that his promiscuous lifestyle led to his infection. My point was their are people who were infected through no fault of their own, and they should not be compared as equivalent to statutory rapists.
They was afraid of never making it past magic in the conference finals
Karl Malone might get slammed for this but imagine people having irrational fear over little danger from a virus ...
It ain’t about no virus.. it’s about the fact that Karl Malone is dumb as f*ck. Period. Those who know, know.
He’s was a great player, and he had heart. However he’s was a ridiculously dumb and ignorant individual.
Well done for being genuinely stupid
We all know you are defending Malone cus you have similar 'appetites'
Magic is such a class act. Love this guy. One of the best. Top 3 for sure. This is coming from a Celtics fan. I mean other than him beating us in the finals a couple times you have to love this guy. Great attitude and high spirits even when cut down in the prime of his basketball career. I do understand concern from other players and I’m quite sure it wasn’t personal. I’m am glad he was able to not only play in the all star game with an incredible performance, on the dream team (best USA BB team ever and it’s not close), and return for another year. His numbers were solid. 4 year absence, HIV, 27 llbs heavier, and a lil slower yet he put up good numbers. Love ya #32!
i must have missed the part where he confronted him LOL
It’s a downright tragedy we didn’t get to see magic after he contracted the virus.
If we had known the HIV/AIDS virus, what we know today. Magic could have played for another 5 years. Those who were born after 85, we were misfortune to witness one of the great players during that time. Yes, I was born in 1986 and heard about Magic on television, but the moment I finally get to witness his playing around the 1990-91 season. It was over after Magic announced he had HIV. It really crushed me.
Just here to say that Karl Malone is a horrible person who impregnated a 13 year old and told Vanessa Bryant he was "hunting for little Mexican girls"
The fact he hasn't been totally exiled from anything basketball related is absurd
Oh stfu. If the NBA wanted him give they would've done it already. THEY KNEW AND DID NOTHING
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Let’s not act like Kobe or Chauncey billups were some angels
Irrelevant. He’s a great player and an all time great, if you want to start using your 2022 standards you’re gonna be wasting a lot of time “exiling” a majority of prominent men who did things you find “inappropriate”
@@VashTheDamnFiend you’re acting like they’re from 1600s lol
Back then in 93' it was Still Really SCARY So i kinda understand Malone!
in the uk it was princess diana who didn't give a shit whether you got hiv or not. she was like "i dont care just give me hug!" hahaha
rip diana
Well, she didn't have to be in contact sports with them, the only thing that mattered was blood transferring.
Not sure why Kar is getting all the hate, he's not entirely wrong - he didn't say he wouldn't play, he said he wouldn't go as hard as their can be blood transfusion
Karl Malone got a 13 yr old girl pregnant while he was in his mid 20s
@@ssj-rose4572 what does that have to do with playing basketball ? Karl ain’t want AIDS
@@ssj-rose4572 early
@@LeonardoDiax24 Karl ain’t wanna pay child support for the 13 year old he got pregnant either
That’s when he won’t go Hard????
I'm not defending Karl, but the stigma in the 90s and early 2000s was something else.
Thankfully, things are so much better now🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🙏
Karl Malone looks like Rodney King in this clip
Wow he does
Difference is that King wasn't a massive piece of shit
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn King had drinking problems, but yeah.
@@mysterion5136 I rather be a round a person with drinking problems then Someone who don't got a problem with age gaps
Been saying that over 20 years
What,take it easy much wasn't really known yet. You guys try playing a contact sport and see if it wouldn't be in the back of your mind. Then think of how it would affect your life with your love ones. It was scary shit.
90s basketball personalities were crazy! Lol
He said that he knew his chances of getting a ring would be even worse with Magic back. He still aint win one
The ignorance and of the unknown is acceptable there was so much disinformation people where just afraid, but look at Magic now he's healthy and one of the richest businessman in America.
That's the only way Malone could beat the Lakers keep magic off the court
Still never won that chip
Malone should’ve had that same precaution with that underaged girl
Y'all think that Magic ordered the Organization to Choke when Karl joined the Lakers for a Championship run that year? I think so. They were over powered that year and vanished. True story. No chip for Malone.
It’s possible
Stacked. In all positions. Still Lakeshow. Showtime
I understand, back then that was the mindset, we didn't know no better.
I think karl does have a good point. But also imagine how hurt magic feels off of that comment. Like hes an outcast😢
It was a different time. Everyone was talking about AIDS back then. People weren't as educated about transmission as now.o Magic was probably the first celeb to open up about his HIV+ status. I don't know if they had a personal beef. But, the vast majority of people probably would have felt the same way back then, whether they said it or not. Maybe he was being a jerk, I don't know. But, it's also possible he was just being honest. Truth hurts sometimes. Malone didn't say it in a viscous way.
@@juanitadudley4788 what he said was ignorant and unnecessary… Plus anybody with a brain knew it wasn’t that type of virus. Doctors around this time even came out and said there was no way to catch it by touch. just admit Malone and many others were being insensitive and ignorant regarding the situation.
Jordan was one of Magic’s most vocal supporters back then. Probably part of the reason they are very good friends til this day.
Also saw something abt MJ admiring Magic and Magic called MJ his idol they got a nice relationship
Shit at the time i can understand why malone had concerns. Information was widely available back then like it is today
At that period in time Karl was right, shit even today with all the facts his opinion is valid
@Jeremy Grant Idk but it doesn't matter. At that time most people didn't know anything about AIDS so he had every right to be afraid and apprehensive
@@darealscottsummerz not to mention he was talking about collisions imagine you have a cut you bump into a guy hard draw some blood it gets into your wound it's not highly likely buts also not impossible
Everybody in the comments section is completely full of shit. When covid was in full swing some of you would lose your minds if someone coughed in your presence.
Even family members kept their loved ones at bay out of fear and paranoia.
Doesn’t mean I would’ve wanted Jeffrey Epstein preaching to me
@coolyungdru Most of the responses are just calling Malone out for sleeping with a 13 year old.
COVID literally transmits through the air like any flu or cold unlike AIDS. If you consider that paranoia you’re just not very well versed in sciences.
He didn't have a problem winning a gold medal with Magic. He knew the Jazz wouldn't do nothing if Magic had been there. The Jazz couldn't beat the Lakers with Magic there. That's why I'm glad he never won nothing.😂😂
Karl knew he would never be in the finals unless he got Magic to retire.
He had no problem playing on the Dream Team. Karl was full of shit!
Where did Magic confront Karl Malone?
Magic should’ve said he cant be on the same court with a child molester
Bottom line is there was still a risk of transmission. It was selfish of Magic to expose other people to that just so he can dribble a ball around.
Karl didn't have to play, he should have been more concerned with supporting the kids he abandoned!! POS
I wonder what would Karl say today
The same thing
He’d say I had to play with someone having HIV and you can’t play against people with Covid lol
I respect what Carl said
Especially at that time ,said if u drank outta the same cup ,u would get it ...
Back then that's how it was
Mfers attacking Malone for his position completely ignoring the fact that Magic may spread that disease to others who don't have the money for medication.
it's not that hard to not get an STD dude
Malone is acting like Magic can spread the disease to him (while on the basketball court mind you)
How would he do that on a basketball court?
The fact that Carl said "Aids virus" speaks volumes. He didn't even know what he was talking about. Magic never had AIDS. Magic also never got caught with underage girls either. Just saying.
The same guy who messed with an underaged girl
Malone was just worried he might have to check his elbows. How many rings does he have again??? 😂
At that time no one knew and you can't blame Carl or anybody else
You gotta think how it felt not knowing about it like you do now. I understand him in this situation.
So true! Context.
They knew they just chose fear lol
It literally says in the video that AIDS experts said at the time playing with Magic then getting AIDS from Magic was "infinitesimal". It was not knowing, it was ignoring experts, and being downright ignorant. Don't try to empathize with Malone. trust me, he doesn't deserve it. Google Karl Malone 13 and get back to me on that.
They didn't know much about hiv back then. Magic came bck average a double double too. Would've love to see Magic shaq and kobe vs jordan pip Rodman
Karl Mike and them boys chased magic out the league. Had magic stayed goat stories would be hella different today
How is magic still alive but Eazy E dropped like a fly.
Was it magic?
Ask yourself about reality every day!
I mean people responding to this from all the information we know TODAY but back then people didn’t know much was different times and that’s why people feelings and opinions in the past should be left in the past
People forget Magic Johnson offered #32 to Malone on the Lakers in 2003
That’s sad. Hurts 😢.
That’s why Magic shouldn’t have been messing around with Jermaine Stewart like that! Lol I’m playing he could be with and mess with whomever his heart contempts as long as he’s true to who he is and is truthful to others about it. And for those that don’t know what I’m talking about look up Jermaine Stewart he sings the song “We don’t have to take our clothes off” he died of AIDS but it was said and supposedly witnessed by multiple people him and Magic together. Magic supposedly bought him a brand new I believe BMW at the time they were together or whatever.
Karl spoke out of fear and ignorance
Fear yes, ignorance no. An Italian soccer player got HIV by colliding with a player that had it
@@arthurbrown4984 that is so unfortunate
Easy to say that now
@@adriandelgado896 even to this day I ain’t tryna play no type of basketball with someone with hiv or aids you never know when you have a random lil cut
No, he spoke out of sensible concern. To this day you aren't supposed to touch HIV blood, according to OSHA standards, but instead must leave disinfectant wet on any contaminated HIV surface for 30 seconds before cleaning it.
And the saddest part is they listened to the same grown ass man who impregnated a 12 year old 🙄🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽 let’s be real, Magic was perhaps the greatest pg ever and they tried to use what happened to him against him otherwise they couldn’t beat him💯💯
Exposing someone else to risk is "selfish".
Magic got HIV and then gained weight at a time when everyone else became bone skinny. The chances that he had HIV is pretty low, probably just gambled on games like Jordan did and got suspended.
Great observation. NBA or the " elite " probably did it to magic as a punishment or humiliation ritual.
And magic is still alive and healthy. Is it possible someone made goof mis-diagnosed? So many people are out here with the monster at least he was responsible, he could have lied.
Everyone was terrified back then. We didn’t know straight people got the disease and we didn’t understand how we could get it. People died quickly once they discovered they were infected
Karl Malone is right
Karl Malone never could be Beat magic in the NBA but he bold Isaiah Thompson
Magic is a grown ass man, he don’t give a fuck what Karl Says, he’s just mad the nba wasn’t letting him play
Karl was afraid and tired of Johnson putting on that Clinic on his team. Johnson just way to superior of a ball player knows he chokes and Johnson rises to greatness
Umm yeah if u get cuts and shit u could be fucked. They were totally right. At the time i couldnt believe they let magic play
He’s right
No respect for Karl Chester Malone Much respect for Magic
There was no medical condition that our society didn't stigmatize. Because they pretty much made almost all of them taboo and prohibited to discuss (emphasis on almost all of them)
One of the few times I can actually agree with Karl Malone. Feel bad for Magic but if he caught it from being irresponsible and there are consequences to actions. That said, I hope Karl Malone’s consequences come soon
Nah Magic was wildin tryna play with that…. Sit down bro 🤣
Nigga said it could be Joe Smole 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this guy needs an award shit used to kill me has a kid 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
All you commenters are hypocrites. Everybody was afraid of HIV in the early 90s.
Karl is right
Ironic coming from someone with a 13 year old baby momma
"It could be Joe Schmoe" lol
Didn’t Karl Malone clap a 13 year old
Young and moist
🙏🙏🙏
The Mailman did not deliver on this one 😅
Unfortunately, many people didn’t know. It was considered a death sentence. There were no medications in 1991, just experimental. I dislike Karl Malone and love Magic. I still remember where I was when Magic made the announcement in 1991.
Karl is right
Magic kinda looked like NBA Youngboy at the end lol
Karl Malone playing with magic- no chance
Malone playing with little girls- he’ll run to them before he runs for a championship
Jesus Loves you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and saviour
Love the sincerity, but you’re misguided brother
Maybe you should hit up Karl Malone's baby mamma who he hit up when she was 13. See how she reacts.
Also, did god give Magic HIV? Because that's kinda fucked up
People are stupid I’m still a magic Johnson fan lakers all day
People have to keep this in mine that Karl in the dream team practices played hard against him. So he contradicted himself.
let’s be honest Malone said what everyone else was thinking
Nah, not everyone maybe some of them..
In the early 90’s all ppl thought if you were touch with someone who had aids you could get it oops meant to say hiv!! The fact that magic is still alive is crazy seeing how it was almost a death sentence back then!! The fact that he had a lot of money and could afford the meds plays a big factor in why he’s still alive!!
💯
MJ is a hero for keeping this 🍇 est from winning🎉
Karl don't play that shit damn 🤣🤣 well at least he was being honest 😂😂😂
I don’t like Karl Malone, but I understand. I’m not guarding the dude with high five the way I’m guarding everyone else
Think about how hated Isaiah would have to be to not be chosen with the limited knowledge of hiv in 1992
Magic said it already Thomas had burned too many bridges
But not afraid when they say they under 16
I Malone you were tougher than that,malone.
No millennial or Gen Zer should speak on this. Back then no one knew what AIDS fully was or one could contract H.I.V.
U do know Millennials are old as 41 and I'm 40 and knows exactly how scary was HIV was in the 90s. Yall need to learn yall words before speaking like Millennials 20 years old or something
If you are in any sport and got forbid you catch a serious disease like HIV. Your career is pretty much done. You made a bad decision and your paying for it. Why should your teamates or the your opponent s on the opposite team gotta pay for your mistakes and bad call that you made in your life. So i feel where Karl Malone is comming from. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
At one time, there was no known cure.
Correct
there still isn't a cure, just treatment
@@nunyabidness7463 facts antibiotics
What’s the cure now?
@@treefiddy5424 I think he meant treatment
It was just ignorance like MOST people
Karl got some nerve