Sun still hasn't opened up about his past that we know of.. We know it's had a forever effect on Sun.. Moon and Lunar dying caused him to not really get attached to people.. Moon hitting him constantly with the stick caused him to be afraid of touch.. Sun(that we know of) has yet to open up about his past experiences
I don't blame him tbh, whenever he would attempt to with the old moon he would get yelled at, hit, ect. That's takes a massive toll on how one will perceive them even if they didn't do it
Poor Sun. He's the one dealing with the most trauma because, excluding Solar who just died, everyone else in his family has each died except for himself. Sun has had to be the most supportive and has had to deal with multiple deaths. Hugs out to all of them especially Sun!!! We all miss Solar!!!!
@_evelyn123_ Yes, that too. Yes, they can all be kind of course they can always help each other because they're family families always look out for each other
14:44 "Sometimes I wonder if it'd be better if Moon and I never separated" YES I'M SO GLAD SUN BROUGHT THIS BACK UP! The last time he said this, the old Computer sent him to that dimension where Moon tried to kill him, and then OM flipped out on him. Can't say I blame Sun for never talking about it again afterward Which is why I think this says a lot about how much Sun trusts Earth that he's able to bring this up again to her ❤
I feel bad for Sun, about the whole drinking thing. I could understand it if he was human, or if he was drinking, like, nine bottles a day or something , but he’s _not._ He can’t damage his organs with alcohol, seeing as he doesn’t have any, and as far as we know, it doesn’t damage him physically. He’s not getting drunk, or even tipsy, he’s drinking _responsibly_ as far as we can tell. It’s mostly Moon who’s concerned about him possibly ending up with a drinking problem, and it probably hurts a little that his own brother isn’t fully convinced that he is capable of handling himself and not going overboard, even if it’s because he’s overprotective of Sun. As far as I can tell, there’s nothing wrong with Sun drinking a bottle a day, especially when it’s a small bottle when considering he’s a robot and like, nine feet tall or something. I can’t help but feel bad that he’s found something that helps him relax, and the minute they find out about it, they tried to get him to stop. Especially when taking into account the fact that his original way to ‘relax’ was to frantically clean the entire daycare for hours to try and distract himself from whatever worries he had. Admittedly, drinking wine probably isn’t the _best_ option, but it’s also not the _worst._
Did you have to write an essay on something about this cuz dang that's a lot. Like seriously that is an impressive amount that you have typed. I can barely do a introduction paragraph for my school essays and then you just come out with this.
@@RealMrAlverio I think people can end up writing this much when they are talking about something they are really interested and love talking about, i also can do that if i start writing it gets bigger and bigger, until is a whole text, like what is happening right now and most people don't even realize they are writing that much, they just start and keep going until they finished
@@RealMrAlverioApologies, I have an A-Level in English Literature, so I’m used to writing essays 😅 and when I get an opinion of something, I feel I have to write out _all of it_ to properly get my point across 😅
Poor sun…He doesnt know after all he’s seen..That he is in fact broken and now wont gain any attachments to any one explaining the real reason why he didnt feel much when solar died….
Yeah! I was gonna say Sun didn't really seem too upset unlike Earth, Lunar and Moon, etc... I feel like he is being anti-social more often, and we didn't see him in much videos lately, it was Foxy and Moon for about a video or two...
@@Solarpuppet_7112 I’m choosing not to include those two videos because Davis was moving I’m choosing not to see those free videos because as I said, Davis was moving so it’s not fair to say son was being antisocial when stuff behind-the-scenes meant Davis couldn’t record I’m not saying son isn’t antisocial at times. It just doesn’t seem fair to include those videos when it wasn’t by choice, it wasn’t like a character choice.
Aw, Sun, you need to give yourself more credit! You may not have been as close to Solar as everyone else or helping Moon as much as you want, but you've spent a lot of time with Earth and Lunar, just being their brother. 😊 And I agree regarding the drinking comments. Beginning to drink alchohol doesn't make you an alcoholic, especially when you only drink the equilivant to one glass a day. And Sun works with kids! If he had a problem, Lunar and Earth would have noticed it! Let the man enjoy his merlot, book, and cats in peace!
This was a wonderful episode. I'm glad Sun was able to open up and get good, genuine support and advice in response to his troubles. And I'm glad that Earth didn't shame him for the "drinking problem," and that she acknowledged that he doesn't actually have one. Because I think that when he got back from shopping around Solar's initial death, hearing Moon tell him "Don't drink too much," however well-intentioned, might have felt like a kick when he was already down. I'm very proud of how Earth handled their talk this episode.
sunrise shouldn't feel bad about not being super close to solar. fair that sunrise feels like he 'hasnt moved on' or 'gotten over it', since he hasnt been able to properly address his nearly decade and a half of trauma, so trying to also address the death of someone that the rest of your family considered a sibling that you didnt really is gonna suck. i feel like this episode is a round-a-about way of sun trying to get his feelings out not just about solar's death, but also the other moons, since they were so similar, just the relationship was different. like, the way sun talks about it is very vague. earth says 'solar', 'solar's death', but sun just says 'it'. and sun has been working it over on his own time, his trauma from the other moon that is. in other news, i still dont think that going to your sibling to be your therapist is a great move, since even though earth can disconnect herself from being sun's sister, sun cant really disconnect from being earth's brother. eg for her shes talking to a patient, but to him hes talking to family and its kinda awkward i think. in regards to eating, yeah no suns been fully mechanical his whole life, so foods not really been a thing for him. BUT if i had to guess, the reason lunar earth and sun can eat without being biomechanical is because theres probably some type of upgrade that gives them a synthetic stomach so they can eat food without like getting their wires and endo dirty bc of it just falling through them. and moon has a nanomachines tummy, which was made mostly for eating metal but its probably why he can eat human food too, like alcohol and chips. considering that human alcohol doesnt do much to sun due to both his size and him being full mechanical, tea's probably isnt gonna do too much either id think. "i dont think its a coping mechanism i just think its something you do to chillax" ok first of all, iirc this isnt the first time sun's drunk alcohol and secondly this is very much cope from sun. its somehow both more effective than cleaning and less healthy simultaneously. although ill agree with earth, as long as it doesnt develop into a problem then i guess its fine. sun thinking about not separating from the other moon again. he knows that although yes none of this would've happened, either they wouldve lived a terrible life because of their differences, or one or both of them would've died fighting. it is a very odd and old thing for sun to bring up around these times - iirc, sun wasnt super keen on splitting from the other moon but did anyways because moon said he was in pain and was causing sun pain just for existing. is it possible that sunrise maybe *wants* to have someone to share a body with again? crackpot theory, but what if, just hear me out now, when they get around to reviving solar(hes too valuable to leave dead lets be real here), whether or not its the real solar or a replica, maybe they'll skip building a new body for him and have him wake up in sun's body/transfer solar to sun's body shortly after waking. it would both skip building solar a body and give him another ai to stabilize in, since ai's that share a body will naturally push and pull on each other. idk, its not likely but its a thought i had. that really is something that a lot of the characters forget - sunrise is around decade and a half old, and has been abused for most of that time, and been forced into being 'the nice one, the good one, the happy one', and he feels like hes failing if hes not that for the people around him, who have come at a time when he didnt see him being abused into the 'role' he thinks he must fill. they havent asked him about his past, so they dont know what hes really been through, unlike the audience which was right there with him. like, this session was fine but it didnt prod too deep, like the first one did. it was all recent stuff which sunrise, who now has an actual support group around him, can handle mostly on his own. its his past that he needs to get off his chest more, he just seems kinda scared to actually have to think about what happened to him, and to force himself to see his late twin for who he really was, since even though sunrise loved the other moon, the other moon didnt really love sun back. or if he did, he sure as all fuck didnt show it.
I'm glad Sun and Earth talked some more about what Sun's feeling and going through, and Earth suggesting to hang out more with her brother. That was cute how she said, "Gonna do some cool stuff with my cool big brother!" that was so wholesome! 😊
1:48 But Clipsy is not even a threat anymore 😭 1:56 But he will be back eventually! Just give it awhile for him to be back. 5:54 LMAO XD 14:44 It really wouldn’t because we wouldn’t have got Lunar, Solar, and all these characters that we love out of this.
Yeah, Sun and Moon separated is actually good now that got the whole daycare crew like Lunar Earth and Solar, and hopefully Eclipse, and when he brings Solar back, everyone will be happy and Sun does love Solar as much as everyone else I wish they hang out more. Eclipse is on his way right now to bring Solar back Eclipse is not a bad guy anymore.
@Daycare_Attendant Yeah. Still Sun is the sun he can still be the up and be supportive, and I know he just wants to get away from it all and have a break and working in the daycare with the kids. And I know Sun loves Solar as much as everyone else does. Solar probably just didn't want to lose another Sun.
@Subspacelover Maybe but not much. Eclipse caring for Earth, and he secretly cares inside I can feel it he can't deny it now. If Eclipse can bring Solar back it be better. And darn, who knows when they'll know that Eclipse is saving Solar. Whenever they know he can still help and bring Solar back.
Sun says he feels he's stuck and I think that's a shock response. He may not have been the closest with Solar but it did hit hard and he cried when it first happened but I think he's still in shock over it and trying to process that can be hard. Earth is right, though, Sun needed that mental break and he has generally been a lot happier. I look forward to seeing what he does to help but I hope he remembers to take care of himself and his feelings at the end of the day
Thank you, somebody who’s not pointing out that he’s apparently suicidal completely, ignoring the fact that Davis and Reed would never incorporate that into a story because of the backlash would be horrible
Yay more therapy for Sun! No Lunar receptionist today, understandable he's dealing with stuff himself. Oh nevermind it's just his day off XD Sun taking over the mantle of thinking seperating wasn't a good idea. Even though technically Old Moon caused the Eclipse issue that spawned everything but I understand Sun's thought process.
@@ArtsyDummy_01you mean the 4th time by earth? 1st: when they met 2nd: family therapy 3rd: sun gets therapy part 1 4th: this (I have a feeling I missed a few)
Im so glad Earth is doing okay... ish. Taking the time for herself was such a wonderful thing and man do I asmire her. Sun's holding back so much. And thats okay. Its not easy for some. We can scream at the phone all day telling him to finally talk about XYZ but hes not ready. Hes slowly chipping away at it at least. 2 years and hes just now getting therapy. It sucks too cause once its said, you feel better... usually. So take your time Sun.
Nice to see Sun get Therapy again after all that's been happening as of late, poor guy definitely needed this as much as Lunar and Earth needed to talk with each other. I don't think Sun has a big drinking problem honestly, considering he's a animatronic he and what not the toxicity wouldn't kick in as bad as it would for humans. He seems to be managing it ok from what I'm hearing from him, so long as it's not an absurd amount for animatronic standards. The Discussion about Solar and how Sun still wondered what life would be like if he and Moon never separated.. that really got me in the heart. He has technically found out what life would be like if that happened thanks to that Alternate Universe he went to once back when the old moon was still around even. It certainly didn't bode well when he found out what exactly happened in that universe.. It's better to not linger on these thoughts of "What if." There's no changing the past, and we all know messing with time is never a good thing to do. Besides.. he still has a great and loving family with him, trauma is not a easy thing to get over, but he's got his family to help him out. Doing Crafts with Earth as well will definitely help and boost his mood. Definitely take good care of yourself Sun, cause a lot of people care about you.
He needs alot of therapy 😭 also I thought Earth was taking a break?? Idk maybe this is pre-recorded 5:54 well, one a day is a bit uh… but people also like making angst-y headcanons 10:17 no!! :( of course you help a lot! just in different ways, with *your* skills. you don’t have to be good at all the tech/science stuff Moon and others are. 15:25 I feel like IM getting a therapy session rn- 16:30 THIS IS SO WHOLESOME I LOVE IT
I don't think he has suicidal thoughts. I think he has survival guilt. Witch is pretty much when a person or in this case a robot feel guilty for living through in event. The person feels like if they had died then the other person they probably cared about would have lived. Plus if he did have suicidal thoughts its hard to talk about especially with some one you care for And yes I am taking from experience with this kind of thing. Either way I agree that sun should talk about it at some point.
Sun basically admitted that he thinks that it would be better if he was dead. But Earth doesn't know the context so she doesn't realise what Sun actually meant when he said maybe it would be better if he and Moon and didn't seperated. And Sun knows that if they seperated Moon would killed him. He just doenst wants to be alive.
I agree with earths statement of “you can’t help others if you’re not in the right mindset” My mum always told me “you can’t help others unless you help yourself first” and I go by that saying till this day. Thanks mum, love you lots (even though she won’t see this bc she doesn’t watch this)♥️
Im a little sad that we didn't get to point out the fact that sun is the only one who hasnt died yet because it's true! Wish sun and earth could have a talk about old moon and his abusive nature
@@rainpuppy14 nah he would be laughing as they uploaded that video knowing that he just dropped an atomic bomb on the fandon and is getting ready for the DMs 😂 ( but i would cry so much)
Sun basically admitted that he thinks that it would be better if he was dead. But Earth doesn't know the context so she doesn't realise what Sun actually meant when he said maybe it would be better if he and Moon and didn't seperated. And Sun knows that if they seperated Moon would killed him. He just doenst wants to be alive.
Sun and Solar could have been drinking buddies if they wanted to. But I can see that Solar drunk in private because he wanted to drown out his troubles from creeping up on him and didn't want anyone else to see him and judge him in such a state. So that's understandable. Yet also it was very sweet of Solar to gotten Moon, and for him and Moon to go check in on Sun that one time about Sun drinking. I think Solar was personally worried for Sun's sudden drinking because he saw his own as escape and didn't want Sun to overdo it and hurt himself on accident.
Yes. Solar and Sun did hang out sometimes. Actually, they even got Solar to take a break for once he've been nonstop working since he got in this dimension. I'm glad Sun Moon and Solar hung out for once
@@abrialwoodford6712 Yeah. And it's clear looking back that Solar cared for Sun more than Sun gave to him. And that's fair. Sun never had to get as close to Solar as everyone else. I think Sun was still hurt by what Eclipse had done to not hang out with Solar too much since Solar had Eclipse's paint job after all. And Solar might not wanted to push Sun for closeness because his Sun, he was so close with and it ended in tragedy and Solar rather not go through that heart break again. But Solar wouldn't ever try to take Sun's place. I'm sure Solar could have given Sun some tasks so Sun could help out yet not disturb whatever project Solar and Moon were working on.
@EmilySpiritExT Oh. This is why they need to get Solar the new body he's cute in that thumbnails and fanarts. We never even said Solar would take Sun's place nope nope that'll never happen ever. He probably was being protective cause he lost his Sun. This is just sad. Solar had that feeling he wouldn't want to lose another Sun. I just love Solar , who is a great heroic mechanic and a good theater attendant, and he helped everyone a lot, and Sun appearances it. Sometimes I wish Sun and Moon can work together in the daycare again.
@@abrialwoodford6712 Yeah, Solar needed a new body. His old one had ties to his former life. He doesn't need to feel his lesser for of Sun from ANY dimension. That shit Prickdrop got him believing. Savage. He needed to let go and get a full upgraded model as his Sun would wish for him to have. Sun had been paranoid about getting replaced before, even by Earth. Yet I think with her that had calmed down since she has her own separate area now and either assists or runs her own area. She never tries to control Sun's area. She respects him and loves him. Yeah Solar was grand. The best mechanic and theater attendant they could ever asked for! Somehow he has to get revived, he is the BEST of the Solar Eclipses ever. Yeah, but Moon doesn't like kids since they can be gross and he hates when they are noisy. So it's best he doesn't have night time duties which Lunar taken over for him. The thing with Moon is OG Moon had a period of time where he was a great nighttime attendant and bonded with the kids. Yet after Kill Code was activated 2 years into his employment, Moon heard the stories of the kids getting hurt at home and so he responded by killing off those abusers and in most cases it seems that he'd accidentally kill the kids he wanted to protect. So cutting himself off from bonding with the kids was another measure he took to not let Kill Code go crazy and kept him suppressed. And Moon loved science, so he could do his science to distract himself from his daily struggles back then. And I think New Moon is doing the same subconsciously, not aware of the former history Moon used to have when he used to be a great naptime attendant. It's sweet that Earth and Sun will work together to approach Moon about relaxing in some way since he's been so overworked recently. We all know that Solar wouldn't want Moon to work himself to death just to revive him. Solar wouldn't hate Moon for taking some breaks when he needs them.
@EmilySpiritExT But I love Moon with his nap time job he's the moon the night I never wanted it to go away I like Sun and Moon better as to work together I don't want to remind about it right now I just don't want to change my mind about it. Like Canon Eclipse could do like I don't know maybe safety things we haven't know much about him. Solar is the best mechanic and theater attendant everyone could ever asked for he's the hero for everything he did for everyone. He saved Sun and Moon. Solar rebuilt the whole daycare. Solar fixed Lunar's voice box and comforts him when he's upset. Solar gave Earth therapy, and he helped her and Lunar get back together he helped Moon protect their family and let him in his home dimension. Solar helped them a lot, and he kept going a lot. Solar is such a Hero and everyone loves him.
I know there's probably more to kinda open up about, but I'm proud of Sun for talking more about his feelings. I get why people might be worried about the drinking but I don't think there's much of a problem there. Honestly, I agree when they said Sun's been waaay more relaxed as of late and plus the having the house helps. But yeah, I agree that Sun and Moon need to talk inregards of the non-stop work even with the latest kinda inspiration spike.
As much as I'm sure the therapy session helped with some stuff, I can't help but see that sun is not feeling better from it. The destruction is a good idea though.
I can relate to this real hard rn. I recently lost my gran over the weekend and everything just feels empty. watching her die was traumatizing. I honestly wish she went like Solar did, painlessly. Sorry for the trauma dump
I wonder if the suddenness of Solars death brings up feelings in Sun of when Moon lost his memories. Because it was a death of sorts. And one he never got time to process because Eclipse got the star and Everything Went Crazy. Sun is the only one with memories of Everything that has happened. Including the initial things Eclipse did to him and Moon, July 16th, and the initial toxic relationship Sun and Moon had. I don’t think anyone realises how much he is carrying, including himself.
Sun DEFINITELY needs a lot of therapy poor guy has been through a lot I'm glad Earth is doing better this is true , Solar wouldn't want any of us to keep being sad , we all had a cry and it's ok to still cry from time to time , i do it too but he wouldn't want us to be sad 24/7 he'd want us to move forward ngl the first day after his death , i couldn't even work up a appetite I was so depressed , but then i thought , Solar wouldn't want me to starve myself , he'd say something like “Kiki , you have to eat something , you're a human and need the nutrients , please eat something for me” and so i did , i made myself a Stuffed Crust Cheese Pizza I did it for Solar ! and Moon is currently working on bringing Solar back we should all be happy for Solar 🧡 i also agree instead of the Wine , Sun should try drinking other things of course , he should drink water ! Hydration is important ! ... this can apply to the animatronic as well ? or just us humans ? I'm surprised Sun didn't bring up his dream ( the one from April Fools Day ) Hmm , unless that was a non canon episode I was thinking Earth could of told Sun what the dream meant and yeah even if Sun and Moon never separated a lot of other negative things could of happened i think the separation was the right choice If they didn't , we wouldn't have Lunar , Earth , Solar they wouldn't be where they're at today I hope Sun gets more therapy in the near future and i hope Moon will be next he too definitely needs some therapy p.s : hope everyone in the comments has a wonderful week ^^ ♡
Sometimes you need to take a break from social media. I liked Solar but didn’t consider him as apart of their family yet. So when he died, the pressure OF A DEAD ANIMATRONIC was Soo bad on social media, I had to take a week off from it. (Again saying it from a ‘Solar is cool but not that special POV’ but try doing other things!)
14:44 Is it just me or is this kind of alarming? I mean a while back Sun went to a dimension where he and Moon never separated and he DIED there and he knows it. Also Sun mentioned before wishing he was dead.. I don’t know, maybe he didn’t mean it like that but I really don’t know man..
NO NO NO SUNNY YOU SAW HOW MOON ACTED WHEN YOU DIDNT SEPERATE!! YOU EVEN WENT TO A DIMENSTION WHERE YALL DIDNT SEPERATE AND THAT MOON BASICALLY KILLED HIS SUN😢😢 ITS BETTER YALL STAYED SEPERATED😭
@@katarzynamedynska1682 PHONE . TABLE . NOW😭😭 THATS FOUL😭😭😭 ngl true tho👀 he did say he wishes to be dead sometimes and in the click the botton video he did say he risk his life to bring someone from the dead so👀👀😭😭
Sun basically admitted that he thinks that it would be better if he was dead. But Earth doesn't know the context so she doesn't realise what Sun actually meant when he said maybe it would be better if he and Moon and didn't seperated. And Sun knows that if they seperated Moon would killed him. He just doenst wants to be alive.
Solar died suddenly, but that’s what happens sometimes. People will be here one moment and then gone forever. That’s sadly how things are. Another person’s actions can permanently effect so many peoples lives forever. There is no way to prepare for it. The only thing you can do after it happens is try to heal, but wounds like that don’t go away easily
Question: how's earth after that "deer with black antlers and purplish body" incident 🤔 7:16 I started laughing so hard that my lungs disconnected from the Internet for 1.9 seconds 5:51 "people keep saying that I have a drinking problem" -sun caught me off guard 🤣 PPL WHO ARE EXCITED TO SUN GET THERAPY AND SEE THE TOTAL ECLIPSE 👇
I'm so glad Sun is able to talk about things that are stressful or worrying to him with Earth. I like this whole Idea with getting Sun to try new drinks as well I think it would be good for him.
I love it how no one is realizing that them bringing up the drinking thing was probably a hint to the fans that Sun is NOT going to become addicted- Yes, Sun is probably not in a good mental state. But if there’s one thing he IS it’s responsible. While I DO think Sun may be a little suicidal, I think there’s a reason he’s still hanging on. It’s called, his family needs him, he knows they love him, and he WANTS to feel better, he WANTS to help, and Sun is NOT going to let them down like he probably feels he did with Old Moon. Sun has been healing in his own way and no one seems to be understanding that a character CAN heal. Like seriously, it’s like you all WANT him to be traumatized-😭😭😭
No one wants him traumatised! He just has mental disorder and is suicidal! He basically admitted that he thinks that it'd be better if he was dead when he said that he thinks it'd be better if they didn't separate! Sorry I'm just very emotional about Sun's mental health because I have similar issues to his...
@@katarzynamedynska1682 No, no, it’s okay. I just wanted my point to get across. All I wanted to get across, is that yes, he IS suicidal, but one of his coping mechanisms is not drinking. He has rid himself of his worser ones, aka consistently cleaning barrels and anything else not living all the time and has gotten better ones instead. And even if it IS used as one, that’s okay because he’s responsible. Drinking is okay if someone is responsible with it.
@@katarzynamedynska1682 Well let’s see… he’s taking breaks… has been focusing on himself for the most part, has enjoyed his wonderful cats company, isn’t as afraid to speak his mind anymore if the way he yelled at both the creator when he was near Earth and Eclipse says anything. Before he was more reserved and preferred to be the ‘better’ in the situation… now he’s not afraid to just speak his mind and while, no, it’s not good to do that in most situations, not only has Sun well and earned that right, but considering how far he used to push his emotions down, I think him being more vocal of things he doesn’t like is a GOOD thing. Overall, that’s why I DO think he’s getting better. Very sorry if this is overwhelming, I just like sharing the info how I see it.😅😅
@@CosmicCloud403 I think that it's not good that his family still doesn't know about his mental issues.. cause it looks like that to.. He's hiding most of this stuff to himself.. like that he blames himself for everything bad that happened - he never said that, he tried to a few times but Old Moon just never let him so now he doesn't talk about it at all.. He acts like he's fine but the lashing out proves otherwise - because I don't see Sun trauma dumping on Catnap and yelling at Eclipse saying that he should kill himself etc as a sign that Sun is doing better.. and he's suicidal and no one notice any signs and hints he gives.. And for me he doesn't have better coping skills at all.. maybe only now he has cause he said that he's reading books but not so long ago it were only screaming and sitting at the computer all day.. Even if he has hobby no one wants to listen to Sun talking about gravel and things like that for hours.. And Sun wasn't helping not because he wanted to relax but because he was scared that his help will kill someone just like year ago - Sun is just lying to Earth.. but most importantly he's lying to himself.. or that's how I see this and not only me see it this way...
I’ve commented this before on the other therapy videos but I still find it interesting so I’m going to keep sharing it bc it’s cool. 😎 The old looking green and gold books behind Earth are most likely poisonous! The green bookcloth was made with arsenic which is HIGHLY poisonous. So if you want to pick up or read one of them, you MUST wear gloves and wash your hands thoroughly afterwards. P.S Yes I AM gonna post this comment on every therapy video. Sorry not sorry 🙃 P.P.S even though I post this comment every time doesn’t mean that I don’t pay attention to the lore or content. I just find this fact really interesting and I want to share it with whoever wants to read it. (Also I feel really bad for LITERALLY EVERYONE in the pizzaplex. Everyone just wants to live their own lives and do what they enjoy without trauma or looming threats and danger.)
I honestly thought he would say that he was jealous of Solar, I say this because of how Moon said he felt more like brother then a cousin and he hasn’t really said how he cares for Sun in a while.
For the first time I am not satisfied with a video... I am glad Earth was trying to help Sun more, but I feel like Sun didn't open up at all. It was kind of like when Eclipse was forced into therapy. Barely touching the surface of all the trauma and complicated emotions behind their character.
Well, think of it this way. In both cases of Sun and Eclipse, it's probably more realistic for them to explicitly NOT readily share their experiences in a therapy session. In Eclipse's case, he has grown to be mistrustful of others and has it ingrained in his mind that he cannot seem weak in front of people. On the other hand, Sun has had to go through so much and had learned to hide away most of his trauma for as long as he did, so realistically, he wouldn't just willingly dump everything he's been keeping, especially not to his sister. But I do believe that, for Sun mostly, that he may open up on later therapy session, though probably much slower than one may want it to happen. Until then, surface level issues is all we can really expect.
Yeah considering he still harbors hatred towards eclipse (rightfully so. Eclipse may have killed Lunar but he took pleasure torturing Sun) cause him telling Eclipse to die was.. really worrisome. It's not good for him. He doesn't have to forgive Elcipse let alone be pals.
@@krystalpheonix158 yeah I know, cause it can be reasonal why none of them would open up yet, but this wasn't the only thing that triggered sooooo much in me in this episode. Usually I like these therapy sessions with Earth, but to put it kindly, I dont think she was ready at all to try and give out this kind of help to Sun of all people. I was so happy when she and Lunar could both talk about their own feelings in not a therapy-way but family bonding way. So why can't we have this with Sun? I understand he needs therapy, but he needs a loving family more at first. I was glad in the end they decided to hang out, but they could've just do THAT while talking about their own feelings, sharing their thoughts and emotions. This whole therapy felt forced from both sides. And this is the only way I can put it without hurting anyone who loves Earth to the core. I love her too. But yeahhhhhhhh this one therapy really didn't feel like it helped anyone at all. But these are just my own thoughts and feelings and no one has to agree with me
Earths kind of wrong about Sun’s drinking not being a problem. If he continues to drink like this and starts to drink more and more, this could turn into more of an addiction and a problem. What if the alcohol has some unseen affect that starts to slowly kill him?
Question for Earth: Are you an actual licensed Therapist or has this been a bit for the longest? Do you have a group therapy session on discord just for actual people to sit around and talk about anything.
Me nonstop thinking about solar dying and hoping he comes back or at least is featured in a episode during the eclipse 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
14:44 ........I think Sun just turned suicidal. He knows what happened when him and Moon never separated in the dimension he went too. Moon was still unhinged and psycho and still had the killcode...... and he killed his Sun for 5 years. Sun is literally suicidal...... he's depressed and traumatic. He knows that if he dies, there would be no more pain and suffering for him. Just numbness in the afterlife, the abyss of code.......with his old moon?
Two Therapy Sessions for Sun, looks like he needs it which did him some good. And now Earth is going to hang out with her cool older brother doing Crafts. ^^
Someone please draw a picture of Sun and Earth buying stuff at an arts and crafts store. And then please draw a picture of Sun and Earth doing arts and crafts together. (make them make a paper doll of Solar)
I’m glad suns having more therapy sessions, now all I’m hoping for is that we get a therapy session for OG Freddy, he found out who is real mother is , toy Chica broke it off with him because of a false cheating accusation from FF- Francine got upset and mad at him 😭, Funtime Freddy what have you done!
Poor sun..he’s dealing with everything imaginable.he has the most trauma..and u can’t deny that…he has gone through his own brother hitting him,basically killing his own brother(by what he thinks),Lunar dying,eclipse going in his head and taking control of him,eclipse wiping everyone’s memories,and way more!i feel really bad for him..and u can tell he still feels really upset abt Solar,cuz he did act majorly in the video he died in,and I understand that he doesn’t know how to move on,cuz I dont know how to move on from things I went through either!i know the pain he has to feel.even tho he’s just a vr model,my mom says I’m very sympathetic,I just feel like he feels he needs to hide a way his emotions in a biggggg jar and shove it in there.cuz it’s obvious his brothers are going though..and me personally I don’t think the wine he drinks is a problem..I feel like it’s a very small bottle and it helps him get through his problems!and I understand that!even if it’s not the healthies(I’d still rather he drinks tea tho😭).and I’m glad earth has gave him more than just one chance to talk about his problems,I still feel he’s holding it alll in a bottle,just some let out now:( also,sun if you see this,,you are helping out!a lot..even if it’s just taking care of the children or trying to hangout with earth or lunar,you can’t always go and go and go until you shut yourself down.its not healthy at all.and I. Sorry if this seems over exaggerating or something but u need to slow down.dont live your life like it’s your last day..(edit:nah bro this is down wrong how did I write this much I’m cooked…)
they all need more Therapy and hugs even eclipse needs Therapy maybe at some point earth can give him a hug if that can even happen with how he acts like with everyone i hope earth can be his first friend cause he needs one. I can see if or when solar comes back earth will be the first to give him a hug then the others will go in for a group hug also they need to keep their eyes on ruin and bloodmoon they are up to no good and i also want to see sun drink coffee or an energy drink and see how he reacts to it
I got severe daja vu when Sun said "maybe it would've been better if we never separated" We've had this exact talk before, just with the old computer instead of earth, he saw what it would've been like, he would've been dead and moon would've been insane, so he better shush about that, also it'd mean he wouldn't have his younger brother, Earth may still be built but Lunar just wouldn't exist... Also everybody he knows would either be dead or on the verge of death, so it's probably better for them to have separate bodies!
Yeah I know Sun misses and loves Solar as much as everyone else. Solar probably just doesn't want to lose another Sun I mean, I kinda feel like we all know why. But yeah they should hang out more they did that before with Moon in their house and made Solar take a break for once.
4:30am, still willing to watch the EP 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽 Edit 1: I love hearing sun open up about his feelings, because to be fair I think he thinks that his feelings are irrelevant 😞 Edit 2: I think their is something else on suns mind.. that's affecting him, but he won't tell anybody.
Why is nobody talking about the "I wonder what would've happened if moon and I never separated" smth like that ? He knows what would happen since he went in this dimension and the sun from there died WHAT DOES IT MEAN SUN ??
I saw around 98-99% of the solar eclipse and sun rlly needs therapy 6:06 “oh-“ and “I don’t get drunk” 6:24 “a bottle” 16:48 ad see the eclipse n burn ur eyes
Sun still hasn't opened up about his past that we know of.. We know it's had a forever effect on Sun.. Moon and Lunar dying caused him to not really get attached to people.. Moon hitting him constantly with the stick caused him to be afraid of touch.. Sun(that we know of) has yet to open up about his past experiences
I don't blame him tbh, whenever he would attempt to with the old moon he would get yelled at, hit, ect. That's takes a massive toll on how one will perceive them even if they didn't do it
Σ(●д●) I forgot old Moon hit Sun with a stick! (My poor baby Ó╭╮Ò)
Poor Sun. He's the one dealing with the most trauma because, excluding Solar who just died, everyone else in his family has each died except for himself. Sun has had to be the most supportive and has had to deal with multiple deaths. Hugs out to all of them especially Sun!!! We all miss Solar!!!!
Yeah, Sun got to be supportive, too. Like Earth, he's the Sun he's the nice one he can still be the up
I think all of them should be kind, grieve in there own ways, and help each other :))
@_evelyn123_ Yes, that too. Yes, they can all be kind of course they can always help each other because they're family families always look out for each other
Now sun
T_T
14:44 "Sometimes I wonder if it'd be better if Moon and I never separated"
YES I'M SO GLAD SUN BROUGHT THIS BACK UP! The last time he said this, the old Computer sent him to that dimension where Moon tried to kill him, and then OM flipped out on him. Can't say I blame Sun for never talking about it again afterward
Which is why I think this says a lot about how much Sun trusts Earth that he's able to bring this up again to her ❤
I feel bad for Sun, about the whole drinking thing. I could understand it if he was human, or if he was drinking, like, nine bottles a day or something , but he’s _not._ He can’t damage his organs with alcohol, seeing as he doesn’t have any, and as far as we know, it doesn’t damage him physically. He’s not getting drunk, or even tipsy, he’s drinking _responsibly_ as far as we can tell.
It’s mostly Moon who’s concerned about him possibly ending up with a drinking problem, and it probably hurts a little that his own brother isn’t fully convinced that he is capable of handling himself and not going overboard, even if it’s because he’s overprotective of Sun.
As far as I can tell, there’s nothing wrong with Sun drinking a bottle a day, especially when it’s a small bottle when considering he’s a robot and like, nine feet tall or something. I can’t help but feel bad that he’s found something that helps him relax, and the minute they find out about it, they tried to get him to stop. Especially when taking into account the fact that his original way to ‘relax’ was to frantically clean the entire daycare for hours to try and distract himself from whatever worries he had. Admittedly, drinking wine probably isn’t the _best_ option, but it’s also not the _worst._
LOUDER
Did you have to write an essay on something about this cuz dang that's a lot. Like seriously that is an impressive amount that you have typed. I can barely do a introduction paragraph for my school essays and then you just come out with this.
@@RealMrAlverio I think people can end up writing this much when they are talking about something they are really interested and love talking about, i also can do that if i start writing it gets bigger and bigger, until is a whole text, like what is happening right now and most people don't even realize they are writing that much, they just start and keep going until they finished
@@RealMrAlverioApologies, I have an A-Level in English Literature, so I’m used to writing essays 😅 and when I get an opinion of something, I feel I have to write out _all of it_ to properly get my point across 😅
@@Cosmossnake _This_
Poor sun…He doesnt know after all he’s seen..That he is in fact broken and now wont gain any attachments to any one explaining the real reason why he didnt feel much when solar died….
Yeah! I was gonna say Sun didn't really seem too upset unlike Earth, Lunar and Moon, etc... I feel like he is being anti-social more often, and we didn't see him in much videos lately, it was Foxy and Moon for about a video or two...
Fr he has officially delt with his entire family dying and so far no one has rly realised it yet ❤
@@Solarpuppet_7112 technically that wasn’t for Lore reason that’s because Davis was moving so that doesn’t count
It’s like he’s just trying to hide everything inside him…
@@Solarpuppet_7112 I’m choosing not to include those two videos because Davis was moving I’m choosing not to see those free videos because as I said, Davis was moving so it’s not fair to say son was being antisocial when stuff behind-the-scenes meant Davis couldn’t record I’m not saying son isn’t antisocial at times. It just doesn’t seem fair to include those videos when it wasn’t by choice, it wasn’t like a character choice.
WHOS HAPPY SUN IS FINALLY GETTING THE THERAPY HE NEEDS??
ME
ME!!!
MEE
MY BOY NEEDS IT 😭🙏
He’s back for therapy yay
Aw, Sun, you need to give yourself more credit! You may not have been as close to Solar as everyone else or helping Moon as much as you want, but you've spent a lot of time with Earth and Lunar, just being their brother. 😊
And I agree regarding the drinking comments. Beginning to drink alchohol doesn't make you an alcoholic, especially when you only drink the equilivant to one glass a day. And Sun works with kids! If he had a problem, Lunar and Earth would have noticed it! Let the man enjoy his merlot, book, and cats in peace!
This was a wonderful episode. I'm glad Sun was able to open up and get good, genuine support and advice in response to his troubles. And I'm glad that Earth didn't shame him for the "drinking problem," and that she acknowledged that he doesn't actually have one. Because I think that when he got back from shopping around Solar's initial death, hearing Moon tell him "Don't drink too much," however well-intentioned, might have felt like a kick when he was already down. I'm very proud of how Earth handled their talk this episode.
Actually, that’s not what he said he said please don’t drink too much
sunrise shouldn't feel bad about not being super close to solar.
fair that sunrise feels like he 'hasnt moved on' or 'gotten over it', since he hasnt been able to properly address his nearly decade and a half of trauma, so trying to also address the death of someone that the rest of your family considered a sibling that you didnt really is gonna suck.
i feel like this episode is a round-a-about way of sun trying to get his feelings out not just about solar's death, but also the other moons, since they were so similar, just the relationship was different. like, the way sun talks about it is very vague. earth says 'solar', 'solar's death', but sun just says 'it'. and sun has been working it over on his own time, his trauma from the other moon that is.
in other news, i still dont think that going to your sibling to be your therapist is a great move, since even though earth can disconnect herself from being sun's sister, sun cant really disconnect from being earth's brother. eg for her shes talking to a patient, but to him hes talking to family and its kinda awkward i think.
in regards to eating, yeah no suns been fully mechanical his whole life, so foods not really been a thing for him. BUT if i had to guess, the reason lunar earth and sun can eat without being biomechanical is because theres probably some type of upgrade that gives them a synthetic stomach so they can eat food without like getting their wires and endo dirty bc of it just falling through them. and moon has a nanomachines tummy, which was made mostly for eating metal but its probably why he can eat human food too, like alcohol and chips.
considering that human alcohol doesnt do much to sun due to both his size and him being full mechanical, tea's probably isnt gonna do too much either id think.
"i dont think its a coping mechanism i just think its something you do to chillax" ok first of all, iirc this isnt the first time sun's drunk alcohol and secondly this is very much cope from sun. its somehow both more effective than cleaning and less healthy simultaneously. although ill agree with earth, as long as it doesnt develop into a problem then i guess its fine.
sun thinking about not separating from the other moon again. he knows that although yes none of this would've happened, either they wouldve lived a terrible life because of their differences, or one or both of them would've died fighting. it is a very odd and old thing for sun to bring up around these times - iirc, sun wasnt super keen on splitting from the other moon but did anyways because moon said he was in pain and was causing sun pain just for existing. is it possible that sunrise maybe *wants* to have someone to share a body with again?
crackpot theory, but what if, just hear me out now, when they get around to reviving solar(hes too valuable to leave dead lets be real here), whether or not its the real solar or a replica, maybe they'll skip building a new body for him and have him wake up in sun's body/transfer solar to sun's body shortly after waking. it would both skip building solar a body and give him another ai to stabilize in, since ai's that share a body will naturally push and pull on each other. idk, its not likely but its a thought i had.
that really is something that a lot of the characters forget - sunrise is around decade and a half old, and has been abused for most of that time, and been forced into being 'the nice one, the good one, the happy one', and he feels like hes failing if hes not that for the people around him, who have come at a time when he didnt see him being abused into the 'role' he thinks he must fill. they havent asked him about his past, so they dont know what hes really been through, unlike the audience which was right there with him.
like, this session was fine but it didnt prod too deep, like the first one did. it was all recent stuff which sunrise, who now has an actual support group around him, can handle mostly on his own. its his past that he needs to get off his chest more, he just seems kinda scared to actually have to think about what happened to him, and to force himself to see his late twin for who he really was, since even though sunrise loved the other moon, the other moon didnt really love sun back. or if he did, he sure as all fuck didnt show it.
Exactly.
7:15
"the dumb one tries to put their head in the wine glass"
DAMN- 💀
💀
Poor cats 💀😂
I feel sorry for Sun that people call him dumb so much that he calls himself dumb almost all the time
I was drinking some coke at that point and I had to stop the video because I swear to god I was about to spit it out if I didn’t 😭😭😂😂😂
*OH MY LORD* 💀
@@Çosmič_Ęclipsê10 he was talking about his cat, not him
I'm glad Sun and Earth talked some more about what Sun's feeling and going through, and Earth suggesting to hang out more with her brother. That was cute how she said, "Gonna do some cool stuff with my cool big brother!" that was so wholesome! 😊
17:00 OMG EARTH U ARE SO SWEET..
(Keep this family happy at all costs for the love of god.)
DONT KILL HER PLEASE
@@TwitteryStorm82Correction: "again"
1:48 But Clipsy is not even a threat anymore 😭
1:56 But he will be back eventually! Just give it awhile for him to be back.
5:54 LMAO XD
14:44 It really wouldn’t because we wouldn’t have got Lunar, Solar, and all these characters that we love out of this.
Yeah, Sun and Moon separated is actually good now that got the whole daycare crew like Lunar Earth and Solar, and hopefully Eclipse, and when he brings Solar back, everyone will be happy and Sun does love Solar as much as everyone else I wish they hang out more.
Eclipse is on his way right now to bring Solar back Eclipse is not a bad guy anymore.
@@abrialwoodford6712Very true!
@Daycare_Attendant Yeah.
Still Sun is the sun he can still be the up and be supportive, and I know he just wants to get away from it all and have a break and working in the daycare with the kids.
And I know Sun loves Solar as much as everyone else does. Solar probably just didn't want to lose another Sun.
Eclipse still is kinda a threat
@Subspacelover Maybe but not much. Eclipse caring for Earth, and he secretly cares inside I can feel it he can't deny it now.
If Eclipse can bring Solar back it be better. And darn, who knows when they'll know that Eclipse is saving Solar.
Whenever they know he can still help and bring Solar back.
HE NEEDS ♾️ AMOUNT OF SESSIONS W THE AMOUNT OF TRAUMA THIS DUDE HAS…
5:54 WELP..THAT WENT FROM 0 TO 100 REAL QUICK. 😶
FR 😭😭 he needs a lot of cats and hot cocoa
@@xPoisonedStardustxexactly bro needs a whole luxury vacation 😞
But sun you do you drink a bottle a day that is not normal even if your an animatronic
Earth is my favorite
@@Alyja_pjskbring him to a kitten café and let him play with the kittens, that would make anyone feel happier
Sun says he feels he's stuck and I think that's a shock response. He may not have been the closest with Solar but it did hit hard and he cried when it first happened but I think he's still in shock over it and trying to process that can be hard. Earth is right, though, Sun needed that mental break and he has generally been a lot happier. I look forward to seeing what he does to help but I hope he remembers to take care of himself and his feelings at the end of the day
Thank you, somebody who’s not pointing out that he’s apparently suicidal completely, ignoring the fact that Davis and Reed would never incorporate that into a story because of the backlash would be horrible
@@rainpuppy14it might seem crazy what I'm bout to say!
they all need a hug and much much more therapy
No, these videos are boring compared to the others
@@wandaramos3466 opinions can be different
@@wandaramos3466 i mean if you think its boring, thats fine to you... my opinion is that the characters getting therapy is a nice thing :)
Who asked you@@wandaramos3466
@@CocoatheSAMSfanDude they didn't do anything to you-
Sun definitely needs more therapy ❤
Facts
Fr.
I’m not gonna lie I think sun survivor guilt
Yeah
Yay more therapy for Sun!
No Lunar receptionist today, understandable he's dealing with stuff himself.
Oh nevermind it's just his day off XD
Sun taking over the mantle of thinking seperating wasn't a good idea.
Even though technically Old Moon caused the Eclipse issue that spawned everything but I understand Sun's thought process.
You know his trauma is bad when he gets therapy TWICE
The 2nd therapy was planned Sun scheduled it months ago
@@ArtsyDummy_01you mean the 4th time by earth?
1st: when they met
2nd: family therapy
3rd: sun gets therapy part 1
4th: this
(I have a feeling I missed a few)
Im so glad Earth is doing okay... ish. Taking the time for herself was such a wonderful thing and man do I asmire her.
Sun's holding back so much.
And thats okay. Its not easy for some.
We can scream at the phone all day telling him to finally talk about XYZ but hes not ready. Hes slowly chipping away at it at least. 2 years and hes just now getting therapy.
It sucks too cause once its said, you feel better... usually.
So take your time Sun.
Nice to see Sun get Therapy again after all that's been happening as of late, poor guy definitely needed this as much as Lunar and Earth needed to talk with each other. I don't think Sun has a big drinking problem honestly, considering he's a animatronic he and what not the toxicity wouldn't kick in as bad as it would for humans. He seems to be managing it ok from what I'm hearing from him, so long as it's not an absurd amount for animatronic standards.
The Discussion about Solar and how Sun still wondered what life would be like if he and Moon never separated.. that really got me in the heart. He has technically found out what life would be like if that happened thanks to that Alternate Universe he went to once back when the old moon was still around even. It certainly didn't bode well when he found out what exactly happened in that universe.. It's better to not linger on these thoughts of "What if." There's no changing the past, and we all know messing with time is never a good thing to do.
Besides.. he still has a great and loving family with him, trauma is not a easy thing to get over, but he's got his family to help him out. Doing Crafts with Earth as well will definitely help and boost his mood.
Definitely take good care of yourself Sun, cause a lot of people care about you.
GUYS ITS A SOLAR ECLIPSE TODAY SOLAR MIGHT COME BACK!!!1!1!!1! Edit:Nvm...:(
YAS
YESSSSSSS
OH RIGHT I FORGOT TODAY WAS THE ECLIPSE
I doubt that haven’t you noticed that moon and lunar have been absent moon is the one that’s been working on that
OMG???
He needs alot of therapy 😭 also I thought Earth was taking a break?? Idk maybe this is pre-recorded
5:54 well, one a day is a bit uh… but people also like making angst-y headcanons
10:17 no!! :( of course you help a lot! just in different ways, with *your* skills. you don’t have to be good at all the tech/science stuff Moon and others are.
15:25 I feel like IM getting a therapy session rn-
16:30 THIS IS SO WHOLESOME I LOVE IT
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I feel so bad for Sunny..he never deserved any of this..all he wanted was to be with his brother..but now hes broken and wont ask for help..
'🎶He's broken and won't ask for help..💔😔🎶'
Yeah 😢
@@UnicornBlossom NO OMG IM WHEEZING
I love the calming music in the background. It makes the whole scene more calm
Thank god he's getting more Therapy-.
5:53 THE VINE BOOM.😭
✨BOOM✨
I wish Sun would legit talk about his suicidal thoughts from before with literally anyone.
Same QwQ
I don't think he has suicidal thoughts. I think he has survival guilt. Witch is pretty much when a person or in this case a robot feel guilty for living through in event. The person feels like if they had died then the other person they probably cared about would have lived. Plus if he did have suicidal thoughts its hard to talk about especially with some one you care for And yes I am taking from experience with this kind of thing. Either way I agree that sun should talk about it at some point.
@@Frog_spawn47 he's suicidal. He basically admitted that he thinks that it would be better if he was dead...
Samee
Sun basically admitted that he thinks that it would be better if he was dead. But Earth doesn't know the context so she doesn't realise what Sun actually meant when he said maybe it would be better if he and Moon and didn't seperated. And Sun knows that if they seperated Moon would killed him. He just doenst wants to be alive.
I agree with earths statement of “you can’t help others if you’re not in the right mindset”
My mum always told me “you can’t help others unless you help yourself first” and I go by that saying till this day.
Thanks mum, love you lots (even though she won’t see this bc she doesn’t watch this)♥️
LETS GOO!!! HAVE YOUR THERAPY YOU NEED IT!
It's nice to see Earth getting back to her side gig and helping others.
Im a little sad that we didn't get to point out the fact that sun is the only one who hasnt died yet because it's true! Wish sun and earth could have a talk about old moon and his abusive nature
To be honest sun needs this
”Sun killing himself with no one understanding why” very soon, for feeling unhelpful with everything in his life
Except Davis would never do that to sun yes I know he’s a robot, but the backlash they would get would be 10 times worse than what they did with solar
I agree..
@@rainpuppy14 nah he would be laughing as they uploaded that video knowing that he just dropped an atomic bomb on the fandon and is getting ready for the DMs 😂 ( but i would cry so much)
Sun basically admitted that he thinks that it would be better if he was dead. But Earth doesn't know the context so she doesn't realise what Sun actually meant when he said maybe it would be better if he and Moon and didn't seperated. And Sun knows that if they seperated Moon would killed him. He just doenst wants to be alive.
@@SkittleShark27this shouldn't have made me laugh😭
Sun and Solar could have been drinking buddies if they wanted to. But I can see that Solar drunk in private because he wanted to drown out his troubles from creeping up on him and didn't want anyone else to see him and judge him in such a state. So that's understandable. Yet also it was very sweet of Solar to gotten Moon, and for him and Moon to go check in on Sun that one time about Sun drinking. I think Solar was personally worried for Sun's sudden drinking because he saw his own as escape and didn't want Sun to overdo it and hurt himself on accident.
Yes. Solar and Sun did hang out sometimes. Actually, they even got Solar to take a break for once he've been nonstop working since he got in this dimension.
I'm glad Sun Moon and Solar hung out for once
@@abrialwoodford6712 Yeah. And it's clear looking back that Solar cared for Sun more than Sun gave to him. And that's fair. Sun never had to get as close to Solar as everyone else. I think Sun was still hurt by what Eclipse had done to not hang out with Solar too much since Solar had Eclipse's paint job after all. And Solar might not wanted to push Sun for closeness because his Sun, he was so close with and it ended in tragedy and Solar rather not go through that heart break again. But Solar wouldn't ever try to take Sun's place. I'm sure Solar could have given Sun some tasks so Sun could help out yet not disturb whatever project Solar and Moon were working on.
@EmilySpiritExT Oh. This is why they need to get Solar the new body he's cute in that thumbnails and fanarts. We never even said Solar would take Sun's place nope nope that'll never happen ever.
He probably was being protective cause he lost his Sun.
This is just sad. Solar had that feeling he wouldn't want to lose another Sun.
I just love Solar , who is a great heroic mechanic and a good theater attendant, and he helped everyone a lot, and Sun appearances it. Sometimes I wish Sun and Moon can work together in the daycare again.
@@abrialwoodford6712 Yeah, Solar needed a new body. His old one had ties to his former life. He doesn't need to feel his lesser for of Sun from ANY dimension. That shit Prickdrop got him believing. Savage. He needed to let go and get a full upgraded model as his Sun would wish for him to have.
Sun had been paranoid about getting replaced before, even by Earth. Yet I think with her that had calmed down since she has her own separate area now and either assists or runs her own area. She never tries to control Sun's area. She respects him and loves him.
Yeah Solar was grand. The best mechanic and theater attendant they could ever asked for! Somehow he has to get revived, he is the BEST of the Solar Eclipses ever.
Yeah, but Moon doesn't like kids since they can be gross and he hates when they are noisy. So it's best he doesn't have night time duties which Lunar taken over for him.
The thing with Moon is OG Moon had a period of time where he was a great nighttime attendant and bonded with the kids. Yet after Kill Code was activated 2 years into his employment, Moon heard the stories of the kids getting hurt at home and so he responded by killing off those abusers and in most cases it seems that he'd accidentally kill the kids he wanted to protect. So cutting himself off from bonding with the kids was another measure he took to not let Kill Code go crazy and kept him suppressed. And Moon loved science, so he could do his science to distract himself from his daily struggles back then.
And I think New Moon is doing the same subconsciously, not aware of the former history Moon used to have when he used to be a great naptime attendant.
It's sweet that Earth and Sun will work together to approach Moon about relaxing in some way since he's been so overworked recently. We all know that Solar wouldn't want Moon to work himself to death just to revive him. Solar wouldn't hate Moon for taking some breaks when he needs them.
@EmilySpiritExT But I love Moon with his nap time job he's the moon the night I never wanted it to go away I like Sun and Moon better as to work together I don't want to remind about it right now I just don't want to change my mind about it. Like Canon Eclipse could do like I don't know maybe safety things we haven't know much about him.
Solar is the best mechanic and theater attendant everyone could ever asked for he's the hero for everything he did for everyone.
He saved Sun and Moon. Solar rebuilt the whole daycare.
Solar fixed Lunar's voice box and comforts him when he's upset. Solar gave Earth therapy, and he helped her and Lunar get back together he helped Moon protect their family and let him in his home dimension.
Solar helped them a lot, and he kept going a lot.
Solar is such a Hero and everyone loves him.
Much needed therapy. I'm really glad Sun got to talk. I hope the others get to as well.
I know there's probably more to kinda open up about, but I'm proud of Sun for talking more about his feelings. I get why people might be worried about the drinking but I don't think there's much of a problem there. Honestly, I agree when they said Sun's been waaay more relaxed as of late and plus the having the house helps.
But yeah, I agree that Sun and Moon need to talk inregards of the non-stop work even with the latest kinda inspiration spike.
As much as I'm sure the therapy session helped with some stuff, I can't help but see that sun is not feeling better from it. The destruction is a good idea though.
I can relate to this real hard rn. I recently lost my gran over the weekend and everything just feels empty. watching her die was traumatizing. I honestly wish she went like Solar did, painlessly. Sorry for the trauma dump
It's perfectly fine to trauma dump, just know we are all here with you❤
We are all sorry for your lost 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 I felt it to I also saw my grandma die 😢😢😢
I wonder if the suddenness of Solars death brings up feelings in Sun of when Moon lost his memories. Because it was a death of sorts. And one he never got time to process because Eclipse got the star and Everything Went Crazy.
Sun is the only one with memories of Everything that has happened. Including the initial things Eclipse did to him and Moon, July 16th, and the initial toxic relationship Sun and Moon had. I don’t think anyone realises how much he is carrying, including himself.
Sun DEFINITELY needs a lot of therapy
poor guy has been through a lot
I'm glad Earth is doing better
this is true , Solar wouldn't want any of us to keep being sad , we all had a cry and it's ok to still cry from time to time , i do it too
but he wouldn't want us to be sad 24/7
he'd want us to move forward
ngl the first day after his death , i couldn't even work up a appetite
I was so depressed , but then i thought , Solar wouldn't want me to starve myself , he'd say something like “Kiki , you have to eat something , you're a human and need the nutrients , please eat something for me”
and so i did , i made myself a Stuffed Crust Cheese Pizza
I did it for Solar !
and Moon is currently working on bringing Solar back
we should all be happy for Solar 🧡
i also agree instead of the Wine , Sun should try drinking other things
of course , he should drink water ! Hydration is important !
... this can apply to the animatronic as well ? or just us humans ?
I'm surprised Sun didn't bring up his dream ( the one from April Fools Day )
Hmm , unless that was a non canon episode
I was thinking Earth could of told Sun what the dream meant
and yeah
even if Sun and Moon never separated
a lot of other negative things could of happened
i think the separation was the right choice
If they didn't , we wouldn't have Lunar , Earth , Solar
they wouldn't be where they're at today
I hope Sun gets more therapy in the near future and i hope Moon will be next
he too definitely needs some therapy
p.s : hope everyone in the comments has a wonderful week ^^ ♡
He's a fictional character, get over yourself
Sometimes you need to take a break from social media. I liked Solar but didn’t consider him as apart of their family yet. So when he died, the pressure OF A DEAD ANIMATRONIC was Soo bad on social media, I had to take a week off from it. (Again saying it from a ‘Solar is cool but not that special POV’ but try doing other things!)
Therapy for Sun! Everyone knows he needs it!
He needs more than two sessions- but atleast hes able to admit to himself that he needs more therapy.
YAYYY, Sun is getting the therapy he needs!! Also I hope Solar comes back, due to the solar eclipse that’s going on!
14:44
Is it just me or is this kind of alarming? I mean a while back Sun went to a dimension where he and Moon never separated and he DIED there and he knows it. Also Sun mentioned before wishing he was dead.. I don’t know, maybe he didn’t mean it like that but I really don’t know man..
I think that he meant exactly what you think he meant.. 😢
I actually forgot about that oh wow
NO NO NO SUNNY YOU SAW HOW MOON ACTED WHEN YOU DIDNT SEPERATE!! YOU EVEN WENT TO A DIMENSTION WHERE YALL DIDNT SEPERATE AND THAT MOON BASICALLY KILLED HIS SUN😢😢 ITS BETTER YALL STAYED SEPERATED😭
But maybe that's what Sun wants.. to be not alive..
@@katarzynamedynska1682 PHONE . TABLE . NOW😭😭 THATS FOUL😭😭😭
ngl true tho👀 he did say he wishes to be dead sometimes and in the click the botton video he did say he risk his life to bring someone from the dead so👀👀😭😭
Sun basically admitted that he thinks that it would be better if he was dead. But Earth doesn't know the context so she doesn't realise what Sun actually meant when he said maybe it would be better if he and Moon and didn't seperated. And Sun knows that if they seperated Moon would killed him. He just doenst wants to be alive.
Yeah man, sun wants to sleep with fish
@@Goodolddumbbanana😂😂😂😂😂
There's a solar eclipse today and it looks awesome.
Also, yes sun really needs more therapy. I'm glad he's getting it.
Solar died suddenly, but that’s what happens sometimes. People will be here one moment and then gone forever. That’s sadly how things are. Another person’s actions can permanently effect so many peoples lives forever.
There is no way to prepare for it. The only thing you can do after it happens is try to heal, but wounds like that don’t go away easily
I can't wait for the sunandmoonshow to one day uplode a video that says" sun gets drunk!? In Vrchat„
FRR
And the thumbnail is just sun being overly energetic/clingy and happy with moon being slightly annoyed
Question: how's earth after that "deer with black antlers and purplish body" incident 🤔
7:16 I started laughing so hard that my lungs disconnected from the Internet for 1.9 seconds
5:51 "people keep saying that I have a drinking problem" -sun caught me off guard 🤣
PPL WHO ARE EXCITED TO SUN GET THERAPY AND SEE THE TOTAL ECLIPSE
👇
I'm so glad Sun is able to talk about things that are stressful or worrying to him with Earth. I like this whole Idea with getting Sun to try new drinks as well I think it would be good for him.
I love it how no one is realizing that them bringing up the drinking thing was probably a hint to the fans that Sun is NOT going to become addicted-
Yes, Sun is probably not in a good mental state. But if there’s one thing he IS it’s responsible. While I DO think Sun may be a little suicidal, I think there’s a reason he’s still hanging on. It’s called, his family needs him, he knows they love him, and he WANTS to feel better, he WANTS to help, and Sun is NOT going to let them down like he probably feels he did with Old Moon. Sun has been healing in his own way and no one seems to be understanding that a character CAN heal. Like seriously, it’s like you all WANT him to be traumatized-😭😭😭
No one wants him traumatised! He just has mental disorder and is suicidal! He basically admitted that he thinks that it'd be better if he was dead when he said that he thinks it'd be better if they didn't separate!
Sorry I'm just very emotional about Sun's mental health because I have similar issues to his...
@@katarzynamedynska1682 No, no, it’s okay. I just wanted my point to get across. All I wanted to get across, is that yes, he IS suicidal, but one of his coping mechanisms is not drinking. He has rid himself of his worser ones, aka consistently cleaning barrels and anything else not living all the time and has gotten better ones instead. And even if it IS used as one, that’s okay because he’s responsible. Drinking is okay if someone is responsible with it.
@@CosmicCloud403 I don't think that he's doing better.. at least it doesn't look like that to me..
@@katarzynamedynska1682 Well let’s see… he’s taking breaks… has been focusing on himself for the most part, has enjoyed his wonderful cats company, isn’t as afraid to speak his mind anymore if the way he yelled at both the creator when he was near Earth and Eclipse says anything. Before he was more reserved and preferred to be the ‘better’ in the situation… now he’s not afraid to just speak his mind and while, no, it’s not good to do that in most situations, not only has Sun well and earned that right, but considering how far he used to push his emotions down, I think him being more vocal of things he doesn’t like is a GOOD thing.
Overall, that’s why I DO think he’s getting better.
Very sorry if this is overwhelming, I just like sharing the info how I see it.😅😅
@@CosmicCloud403 I think that it's not good that his family still doesn't know about his mental issues.. cause it looks like that to.. He's hiding most of this stuff to himself.. like that he blames himself for everything bad that happened - he never said that, he tried to a few times but Old Moon just never let him so now he doesn't talk about it at all.. He acts like he's fine but the lashing out proves otherwise - because I don't see Sun trauma dumping on Catnap and yelling at Eclipse saying that he should kill himself etc as a sign that Sun is doing better.. and he's suicidal and no one notice any signs and hints he gives.. And for me he doesn't have better coping skills at all.. maybe only now he has cause he said that he's reading books but not so long ago it were only screaming and sitting at the computer all day.. Even if he has hobby no one wants to listen to Sun talking about gravel and things like that for hours.. And Sun wasn't helping not because he wanted to relax but because he was scared that his help will kill someone just like year ago - Sun is just lying to Earth.. but most importantly he's lying to himself.. or that's how I see this and not only me see it this way...
Omg....SOLAR NEVER GOT HIS SECOND THERAPY SESSION 😭😭
this aint about him
DONT REMIND ME 😭😭😭😭
@@SkittleShark27this comment has me dying 💀💀💀
@@Myepicnessistoomuch 🤫🧏
Watching this and the eclipse
Samee
@@AubreyanaVanMeter-tx6bw twinn
@@VoidWithKoffi eee >:3
Same
I’ve commented this before on the other therapy videos but I still find it interesting so I’m going to keep sharing it bc it’s cool. 😎
The old looking green and gold books behind Earth are most likely poisonous! The green bookcloth was made with arsenic which is HIGHLY poisonous. So if you want to pick up or read one of them, you MUST wear gloves and wash your hands thoroughly afterwards.
P.S Yes I AM gonna post this comment on every therapy video. Sorry not sorry 🙃
P.P.S even though I post this comment every time doesn’t mean that I don’t pay attention to the lore or content. I just find this fact really interesting and I want to share it with whoever wants to read it. (Also I feel really bad for LITERALLY EVERYONE in the pizzaplex. Everyone just wants to live their own lives and do what they enjoy without trauma or looming threats and danger.)
my man needs it-
First like + YES SUN
ITS THE ECLIPSE TODAY!
5:55 LMAO THEY AINT WRONG
I honestly thought he would say that he was jealous of Solar, I say this because of how Moon said he felt more like brother then a cousin and he hasn’t really said how he cares for Sun in a while.
For the first time I am not satisfied with a video... I am glad Earth was trying to help Sun more, but I feel like Sun didn't open up at all. It was kind of like when Eclipse was forced into therapy. Barely touching the surface of all the trauma and complicated emotions behind their character.
Agreed
Yes I think Sun and Eclipse needs more therapy
Well, think of it this way. In both cases of Sun and Eclipse, it's probably more realistic for them to explicitly NOT readily share their experiences in a therapy session.
In Eclipse's case, he has grown to be mistrustful of others and has it ingrained in his mind that he cannot seem weak in front of people. On the other hand, Sun has had to go through so much and had learned to hide away most of his trauma for as long as he did, so realistically, he wouldn't just willingly dump everything he's been keeping, especially not to his sister.
But I do believe that, for Sun mostly, that he may open up on later therapy session, though probably much slower than one may want it to happen. Until then, surface level issues is all we can really expect.
Yeah considering he still harbors hatred towards eclipse (rightfully so. Eclipse may have killed Lunar but he took pleasure torturing Sun) cause him telling Eclipse to die was.. really worrisome. It's not good for him. He doesn't have to forgive Elcipse let alone be pals.
@@krystalpheonix158 yeah I know, cause it can be reasonal why none of them would open up yet, but this wasn't the only thing that triggered sooooo much in me in this episode. Usually I like these therapy sessions with Earth, but to put it kindly, I dont think she was ready at all to try and give out this kind of help to Sun of all people. I was so happy when she and Lunar could both talk about their own feelings in not a therapy-way but family bonding way. So why can't we have this with Sun? I understand he needs therapy, but he needs a loving family more at first. I was glad in the end they decided to hang out, but they could've just do THAT while talking about their own feelings, sharing their thoughts and emotions. This whole therapy felt forced from both sides. And this is the only way I can put it without hurting anyone who loves Earth to the core. I love her too. But yeahhhhhhhh this one therapy really didn't feel like it helped anyone at all. But these are just my own thoughts and feelings and no one has to agree with me
I think Sun definitely needed therapy again...
Sun was masking sm in that session you could tell there was so much he wanted to talk about but didn't
Earths kind of wrong about Sun’s drinking not being a problem. If he continues to drink like this and starts to drink more and more, this could turn into more of an addiction and a problem. What if the alcohol has some unseen affect that starts to slowly kill him?
6:59 un-wine *badum tiss*
Question for Earth: Are you an actual licensed Therapist or has this been a bit for the longest?
Do you have a group therapy session on discord just for actual people to sit around and talk about anything.
Now Im really curious
Uuuuu, that would be so cool👀💖
I need to know
Me nonstop thinking about solar dying and hoping he comes back or at least is featured in a episode during the eclipse
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yo I think this is the earliest I've ever been!
14:44 ........I think Sun just turned suicidal. He knows what happened when him and Moon never separated in the dimension he went too. Moon was still unhinged and psycho and still had the killcode...... and he killed his Sun for 5 years. Sun is literally suicidal...... he's depressed and traumatic. He knows that if he dies, there would be no more pain and suffering for him. Just numbness in the afterlife, the abyss of code.......with his old moon?
Everybody seems to have their own opinion on this. I made a good point, but I’m that’s not gonna change peoples opinions on this.
@@rainpuppy14 bruh ur literally everywhere 😂💀
BRO FRR😭
@@tiredcatmei What do you mean?
Can someone give him a hug please And earth I will
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I am so sorry this is like a sad moment, but can we talk about suns voice crack, like I almost started cackling like a witch when I heard it
YAYAYAYA AGAIN!!!
*Edit:
DAMMIT, THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO TALKING ABOUT OLD MOON AAAUAGAHH
Two Therapy Sessions for Sun, looks like he needs it which did him some good. And now Earth is going to hang out with her cool older brother doing Crafts. ^^
Someone please draw a picture of Sun and Earth buying stuff at an arts and crafts store. And then please draw a picture of Sun and Earth doing arts and crafts together. (make them make a paper doll of Solar)
3:37 I completely agree 🖤🖤🖤
5:54 WELL THATS A WAY TO START A CONVERSATION
poor sunny, i just want to find him and hug him rn ;(
I’m glad suns having more therapy sessions, now all I’m hoping for is that we get a therapy session for OG Freddy, he found out who is real mother is , toy Chica broke it off with him because of a false cheating accusation from FF- Francine got upset and mad at him 😭, Funtime Freddy what have you done!
Happy Solar and eclipse day! May we pray for eclipses redemption arc and solars returning arc
We definitely may pray for Eclipse's redemption arc and Solar's returning arc
YES
Sun NEEDS IT-
5:54 cus u do Sun, you do
16:34 yayy siblings bondingg!
"AGAIN" YES AGAIN HAVE YOU SEEN HIM?
Earth needs a therapy lesson with herself 😊😢
FINALLY! He so needs this he’s gone through so much ❤
Aww.. Poor Sun.. he just needs a break. :(
Well, well. Sun is questioning the events of this world, so I think we know what time it is! "WHAT IF?" TIME!!!!!
Poor sun..he’s dealing with everything imaginable.he has the most trauma..and u can’t deny that…he has gone through his own brother hitting him,basically killing his own brother(by what he thinks),Lunar dying,eclipse going in his head and taking control of him,eclipse wiping everyone’s memories,and way more!i feel really bad for him..and u can tell he still feels really upset abt Solar,cuz he did act majorly in the video he died in,and I understand that he doesn’t know how to move on,cuz I dont know how to move on from things I went through either!i know the pain he has to feel.even tho he’s just a vr model,my mom says I’m very sympathetic,I just feel like he feels he needs to hide a way his emotions in a biggggg jar and shove it in there.cuz it’s obvious his brothers are going though..and me personally I don’t think the wine he drinks is a problem..I feel like it’s a very small bottle and it helps him get through his problems!and I understand that!even if it’s not the healthies(I’d still rather he drinks tea tho😭).and I’m glad earth has gave him more than just one chance to talk about his problems,I still feel he’s holding it alll in a bottle,just some let out now:( also,sun if you see this,,you are helping out!a lot..even if it’s just taking care of the children or trying to hangout with earth or lunar,you can’t always go and go and go until you shut yourself down.its not healthy at all.and I. Sorry if this seems over exaggerating or something but u need to slow down.dont live your life like it’s your last day..(edit:nah bro this is down wrong how did I write this much I’m cooked…)
I've always related to Sun so much😢
Reed is probably taking a break since he was doing a lot when Davis was moving.
Again? Poor sun.. At least he got the therapy he needed. :3
I believe the reason solar wanted sun to rest is because they werent able to have that bond with their sun
Because he was pretty much in a coma
they all need more Therapy and hugs even eclipse needs Therapy maybe at some point earth can give him a hug if that can even happen with how he acts like with everyone i hope earth can be his first friend cause he needs one. I can see if or when solar comes back earth will be the first to give him a hug then the others will go in for a group hug also they need to keep their eyes on ruin and bloodmoon they are up to no good and i also want to see sun drink coffee or an energy drink and see how he reacts to it
I got severe daja vu when Sun said "maybe it would've been better if we never separated"
We've had this exact talk before, just with the old computer instead of earth, he saw what it would've been like, he would've been dead and moon would've been insane, so he better shush about that, also it'd mean he wouldn't have his younger brother, Earth may still be built but Lunar just wouldn't exist... Also everybody he knows would either be dead or on the verge of death, so it's probably better for them to have separate bodies!
But maybe that's what Sun wants.. to be dead...
Sun should have spent more time with Solar.
Yeah I know Sun misses and loves Solar as much as everyone else. Solar probably just doesn't want to lose another Sun I mean, I kinda feel like we all know why.
But yeah they should hang out more they did that before with Moon in their house and made Solar take a break for once.
MORE THERAPY WITH SUN PART 2
Awesome sun ☀️
poor sun and how'd they just turn from sad to happy at the end so quickly
4:30am, still willing to watch the EP 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
Edit 1: I love hearing sun open up about his feelings, because to be fair I think he thinks that his feelings are irrelevant 😞
Edit 2: I think their is something else on suns mind.. that's affecting him, but he won't tell anybody.
Maybe the thoughts of suicide?
Crazy that this is in the day of an eclipse huh
Facts
Why is nobody talking about the "I wonder what would've happened if moon and I never separated" smth like that ? He knows what would happen since he went in this dimension and the sun from there died
WHAT DOES IT MEAN SUN ??
Congrats 🎈🎉🎊🍾 🥳 👏 to earth doing therapy sessions again lol 😂
Sun yes! Get ur therapy!
I saw around 98-99% of the solar eclipse and sun rlly needs therapy 6:06 “oh-“ and “I don’t get drunk”
6:24 “a bottle”
16:48 ad see the eclipse n burn ur eyes
I hope they don't kill Ruin. I just really want him to get therapy, because it seems like he's dealing with tramatic thing too.