Eclipse didn't care about anyone else because deep down, he was afraid of being betrayed and abandoned again. (the old Moon betrayed him and left him behind, stuck inside Sun's head) He stopped caring about Lunar after Lunar betrayed him. (he did care about Lunar (though it was very small), he felt like apologizing after hitting him. (and he did after a day it happened.) but he was struggling with his own feelings and questioning himself of why he still cared.) it all stems from the old Moon abandoning Eclipse inside Sun's head. He doesn't want to get close or attached to anyone because he fears being abandoned again. He doesn't trust anyone, because he fears that he will be betrayed. That is also why Eclipse represses his own feelings, (even happiness) and acts as though he doesn't care.
Eclipse doesn't know how to feel loved by anyone, because he's never felt it. Probably why he. Didn't like Earth, even though she was being nice to him😢
THEY DRAGGED HIM IN OML! 19:53 M: "Probably not what you wanna hear but I'm sorry-.." Eclipse leaves M: "..For abandoning you..." 20:11 M: "I really did cause all this.. just because I couldn't handle my own problems.."
I love how Moon is genuinely acting like a parent “Look at you, son! Look at you being studious.” EDIT: “I’m sorry for abandoning you.” Okay Moon just keep pulling at our heart strings why don’t ya I do wonder if that’s foreshadowing though that Moon might somehow meet the old Moon
I'm still holding out hope that KC is out there somewhere, pulling a Zero from MMX6. Maybe use his shared memories with Old Moon to rebuild some sort of consciousness, replacing or supplanting KC's own. We know that he wanted to sacrifice himself in the end, maybe he would see it as a way to repay Old Moon.
Sadly it typically is I mean blood moon was foreshadowed lunar was foreshadowed Eclipse was foreshadowed the Creator and Earth both were foreshadowed everybody was foreshadowed.
20:21 isn't Eclipse techniclly just Old Moon? He was a bit of code that got left behind when Moon split from Sun. 12:16 Eclipse was 100% going to say the actual Moon, but i wonder what's going on in his scrambled mind to make him stop?
5:00 "Oh well you see, my mother used to beat me with batteries in a sock when I was younger." NAH BRO THATS MY FAVORITE PART- Edit: Oml 155 likes? Thank you all so much! Another Edit: 231?!?!
Ok so- you can tell eclipse actually almost answered earths questions several times, then he thought about it, would look back at moon and say something completely different to try and make everyone there upset
Also, listen to how quiet he is. Eclipse has always been the type to quickly follow up with a jab towards someone, but here, especially towards the end? Barely any sign of him having anything to say. Just sitting there, taking it in. He even OPENED UP a few times, even if it was only a little bit. I’m honestly pretty proud of Eclipse for doing that. It’s progress, even if just a little bit.
This may be based off personal bias, but if Eclipse does want to apologize and actually get on good terms with everyone he should try and ease in by starting with an apology to sun. He is one of the only people who actually would listen, and has been empathetic to Eclipse in the past He might not forgive him, but is actually willing to give him a chance if Eclipse actually shows he wants to change (if he ever wants to)
TOOK HIM LONG ENOUGH! GOOD JOB MOON😂 1:28 SOLAR NOT HAVING THAT DISRESPECT TOWARDS EARTH 👏 5:01 Beating him with a sock of batteries- sounds about right.
19:53 Imagine Eclipse was just behind the door when Moon said this, Now that would be something, but tbh I hope Eclipse heard that. I want him to be redeemed now more than ever, I already DID want him to be redeemed when he first came back to life for the second time. Now that he actually has a chance, I'm all for it. PLEASE JUST REDEEM HIM ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!
Nah fr cuz when I saw the title I was like "REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION" I was excited.
Eclipse fans really make me wonder if you are all the type who would like a redemption of Belos from TOH... Seriously, he didn't even show a reason why he's redeemable, and trauma isn't a very strong point! Him being a traumatized baby doesn't justify him getting redemption! If that were the case, Starlight Glimmer would be more loved in the MLP community! Series, TRAUMA DOES NOT EXCUSE MURDER, ABUSE AND SEXISM!!! HE LITERALLY CALLED EARTH H*RE!!!!
Hm........ THE F***ING BLACK DORITO FINALY GETS THERAPY 5:00 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Seriously Eclipse 19:56 "I'm sorry......for abandoning you." Moon, it wasn't you it was the other you
Goof grief.. never having control of your life really is misery. Though it did feel like Earth managed to make a dent in that shell of his. I love how Moon kept apologizing to earth. He felt so bad for putting her through that. Earth is so kind for trying to help Eclipse. He reminds me of a dog that never knew what love and kindness is, just pain and and abandonment. So when someone reaches out to pet him he'll bite back to protect himself. Which..... is very on point really. Moon's apology at the end hurts so much. Though I wonder what him and old him would would react to the other. Really something else
Eclipse, it really is better when you are *BRUTALLY HONEST* in therapy. When I was in group therapy, I was so honest I made people cry just by talking about my shit. I mean if you actually talk about what’s on your mind, it can really mess with people. I’m sure you’d screw with a lot of people that way. Edit: Also before anyone asks, no, I’m *NOT* allowed back at group therapy, either.
@@ilovemy_husbandsWhy did I make people cry, or why am I no longer allowed back at group therapy? The answer to both those questions is the same, and you probably do not want to know it.
FINALLY!!!! Moon: “I’m sorry for…abandoning you.” Eclipse: “you ever what it’s like waking up outside your own body?” Earth: “it’s scary, isn’t it?” Eclipse: “…horrifying.” HE’S OPENING UP!!!!!! OH MY GOD THIS IS LEAPS AND BOUNDS!!!!!!
@@-SassyBritches- Like what would happen! That was Sun's brother and they were just barely getting into a good relationship but all that happened... Old moon was getting better, Sun was in a bad state but Sun has so much regret. I would say if they met it would be emotional for both parties but if Moon met Old moon that would be an argument
It's surprising that Moon actually apologized to Eclipse for abandoning him. (though that was the old Moon that did that.) if only Eclipse had stayed a little longer to hear Moon say that.
Maybe Eclipse heard that? Because who knows if he disappeared immediately or maybe he waited outside the door? There's hope. I believe that Eclipse will be redeemed.
@@katarzynamedynska1682 personally, I would prefer if the Original Eclipse got redemption. The original Eclipse was forced out of Sun's body with magic, however, Sun mispronounced part of the spell. Moon said that because of that, Eclipse was either dead, or out in the woods somewhere, but unable to move. (but alive) Sun and Moon never went out to the woods to check and see if Eclipse was there or not. This Eclipse just seems like he just doesn't care anymore. He just wants to find who remade him and why.
12:10 It is really intresting how it seems that Eclipse realized he was saying too much, how he actively avoids opening up. Maybe one day he will, I highly doubt that he will get to that point before they find who keeps bringing him back.
At last!! Getting to the heart of the problem! Seriously though, imagine your literal self abandons you to your greatest fear: being trapped. Old Moon never sincerely faced that but New Moon is 😢 I definitely think Eclipse cared. He cared for Sun when he was part of Moon. He also cared for Lunar, literally creating him as a replacement Sun, and unfortunately treating him the same controlling way.
Fuck me running, they GOT this guy in the therapy room?! I was thinking how hilarious it'd be, but I never considered it would be DONE. I CANNOT BELIEVE OR FATHOM IT
Same Here you Not Alone in This We all know that he's the villain and we all know that he's a jerk and a waste of space but at the same time he could be useful if he's not a complete Bastard but at the same time poor lunar. He has been through a lot. He doesn't need trauma anymore. I feel bad for him but Anyway time to See the Magic of Earth Help Within this Dude Put into possibly may help him or to a little bit control and better and work with him on a better note than past times and past reasoned events that caused him to be like this 😊😂
I mean, yeah. Eclipse genuinely was HURT by the og moon, he flat out asked "Why leave me behind?" and he hadn't even DONE anything yet, but Moon....kinda treated him like unwanted garbage. I mean, he also did Sun dirty by just leaving code in his head without permission or warning which was in of itself another dick move. I think Eclipse has a hard time accepting that the one who did him wrong is actually kinda.... just gone. If he does accept that, well who can he direct his.... anger towards besides throwing it around wildly? At his core, like he said when Freddy and Funtime visited him on their channel, he felt/was betrayed by "himself". He actually...he won't admit it, but he still seems hurt by that. He hasn't moved past it.@@Roselyn-Witter
i think the saddest thing is Moon apologizing for him abandoning Eclipse shows how he's seeing that Eclipse is the way he is because he was never shown love before and felt so weird about Lunar liking him and trying to love him that he pushed him away, which caused Eclipse to remain alone for over 2 years after being left behind in Sun and it shows how Moon is possibly regretting his past choices, but what makes it sadder is Eclipse is still so used to being abandoned and rejected that it's near impossible for him to imagine anyone aside from Earth actually caring and wanting to do something for him out of pure kindness and free will rather than being forced.
13:10 Savage Earth is EVERYTHING 19:53 If ONLY he hadn’t left the room, but he’s just too blindsided in his own head 20:21 I REALLY hope that this is potential foreshadowing for Old Moon to make a return somehow (even if only for one day or from a different l dimension or something) because I would LOVE to see how Sun would react to that and what New Moon would say. Eclipse is so broken and hurt from being betrayed and abandoned so many times that he acts like he does not care about anyone or anything as a trauma response.
Am I the only one who think Eclipse is flirting with Moon? First he said if Moon wanted him to get on his knees , than he called him sweety and now peachy. What is next? Baby?😂
19:54 OMG.. THIS IS ACTUALLY SAD 😭😭 even though i hate (New) Moon this is actually sad, hes sorry for abandoning Eclipse even though its not the other Moon… as much as i hate (New) Moon this is actually sad wthh?? 😭😭
THIS HURS. THIS ACTUALLY HURTS.😭 Eclipse is trying to convince himself that he doesnt care about anything/anyone so he doesnt get attached to it, therefore he cant get hurt again. AND WHEN MOON WAS ABOUT TO SAY HES SORRY BUT ECLIPSE WALKED AWAY BEFORE HE COULD I ACTUALLY SCREAMED "NO-" AHHHHH this is so sad😭 ECLIPSE, MY GUY, help is being HANDED to you JUST TAKE IT. if u just had trust in someone for A SEC u could get help... it could get better, everyone could heal. why dont u want that?? /lh man PLEASEEE let this be the start of his redemption arc, PLEASE I BEG🙏😭
I feel bad for eclipse sm. I understand how he feels, and it’s awful, I hope he gets more therapy and actually takes it seriously Eclipse, you fr need to stop being stubborn and talk about your issues bud. Love him though lmfao
Oooooo this is going to be good!! 00:00 forcing 00:38 name? 1:10 checking if Earths ready 1:21 swear count 1 1:36 “awh tank you so much” the Gooder one 🙄 1:43 entering 1:50 did bro say sorry? 2:21 bro sits finally 2:28 ohh it was moon i get it know lol 2:49 ooo ✨ problems ✨ 3:25 starting? 3:28 ✨ ugh ✨ 3:36 manic laughing 3:56 earth is prob like oh.. this makes it worse 4:05 swear count 2! Sun and moon posted.. Earth turns into smth I gotta see that rn but I won’t
NOT MOON FORCING ECLIPSE INTO THERAPY 💀 ECLIPSE IS NOT BEING SERIOUS AT ALL 💀😭 "MY MOTHER USED TO BEAT ME WITH SOCK QND BATTERIES-" BE SO FR RN 😭💀 5:50 the hell he mean by that? 💀 (Also, I got a Sun and Moon show notification, why the hell is Earth a goose?? 💀) 6:45: says the evil man, as if he didn't have a different reaction after slapping Lunar, aka, when Lunar and him took over the channel. I shall repeat the words Eclipse said, "why did i do that?" 7:50: shut up and take the therapy session you black dorito. 9:03: BRUH. SHUT UP ABOUT EXPLODING LUNAR- 💀😭 9:20: Damn, gagged him- he silent now...and he started laughing- probably to hide the fact that Earth is saying the truth 😝 9:42 BRO LEAVE MONTY ALONE 😭💀 10:39: crazy, he can’t even lie to the viewers about his backstory, because it was made into a video- 💀 he better not make a whole backstory lie 😂 10:56: bro look at his eyes, he is not looking at earth 💀 11:52: okay, shut up for a moment. This feels more of an interrogation then a therapy session ngl 💀 12:17: Oop- he silent agai💀😛 13:01: YOU INNOCENT SOUL, MY STARS I LOVE YOU- 😭😭☺️ 14:31: ooooo….. abandonment and trust issues..crazy 💀😒 16:20: bruh. You killed him, for what? I’m guessing it’s because he wasn’t in your control anymore- 😒 17:08: that make sense about the “test” parts- ok 👌🏽 18:05: wait……is opening up? 😃😀 18:54 yo, you wildin’ 💀 19:13: yo, why is Eclipse taller then Moon?! Why did he grow?? 💀 19:43: he continued walking, then I’m guessing just realized what Moon said and turned around. 😃 19:55 Moon…why are you pulling on the heart strings?? 😭 Also, isn’t like Eclipse the third “sibling”? Cause it was sun, then Moon, and then Eclipse who showed up first then any of the other characters, so I just imagined Eclipse just walked out and didn’t bother to listen to his “older” brother, aka Moon. 😃
Did moon seriously just call Eclipse, son , at least he's accepting it , wait that means Lunar is moon and sun's grandchild and Eclipse is the creator's grandchild
I love how in the end moon starts to feel bad for Eclipse for what the other him did to him... I hope that someday he has a talk to Eclipse about everything that has happened.
Moon at the end of this video with that apology, that made me so emotional I had to go outside and breathe. As a person who wants to be a therapist I’ve analyzed these characters a lot, and the abandonment thing is the root of Eclipse’s issue, if Eclipse heard that apology it could have gotten a ball rolling to his path of healing. “Could have” being the phrase, we don’t know for sure but it’s very possible especially with how Eclipse was before he died in Solar’s world.
Idk why but Moon is giving me "changed father that returned after fifteen years and wants to make amends" vibes while Eclipse is giving me "why change now? Why try to make amends for what you did? Why come back after so many years?!" vibes. (Because I just can't unsee the family tree for all of the celestial animatronics that I purposely tried to piece together and make sense of. If you want to know then comment to this comment and I will reply when I have time.)
The new moon would definitely have some... not so nice words to say to the old moon. (Edit): Old moon would probably also ask if NM(new moon) is treating Sun better than he did since that was kinda his final words or smth like that.
stop that last thing moon said made me want to cry. im all cought up on the sun and moon show but I have been trying to watch every vid on this chanle as well sence it also as lore and silly moments. the first year of T.s.a.m. I hated eclipse, he could have spoken up and asked for help or something, chose to be friends. but lately iv been able to see things from his prospective, I have grown in my knowledge and I understand him now. how could he care about anyone when no one ever cared for him? how could he beleive anyone ever could care for him after everything that happened to him, and everything he has done. I used to hate that people liked eclipse and felt bad for him, but I understand now, and even though I know this moon (nexus) doesn't care like he used to here in this vid, it still hurts but warms my heart to see him expressing how he is sorry for something he honestly didn't really do. To be far if eclipse did here him, or listen to him before he left the room, he would most likely have just gotten really mad, or not believe moon. it is way to late for moon to be saying sorry, eclipse is deeply imbedded with that trauma, that mind set is his primary coding, (literally). eclipse doesnt care, maybe he is scared to care. or maybe he has completly given up. to a point he reminds me of myself in some way like, in the eclipse and puppet show him heloing others even though he hates them or is pissed at them, I do that a lot, like ill be mad at someone or hate that person but if they need help like if they drop something or get hurt, or even just feeling down I will check on them. this is so long for no reason lol, anyway sorry if my spelling sucks it late at night and im very tired, I am also not checking over it so-
THE INSANE MAN IS FINALLY GETTING THERAPY WOOO!! Wasn't gonna do time stamps today but just gotta say.. 1:20: we love protective Solar ✨ THIS IS WHY HES MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER
19:53 i have a good feelings about this apology....maybe there is a chance of redemption... and maybe Eclipse can finally get better mentality ^^ I have a feeling that soon enough we'll see a vid of Moon and Eclipse finally befriending eachother, well, maybe not befriending but just, stop hating each other-
Finally, i've been waiting for that, Eclipse really need it. We can feel it, he's not fine at all, he's always playing evil outside but inside he's in totally in pain since he was in sun's head. I want somebody checking his mental and make her pure anger disappearing🥺
FINALLY ! this is exactly how I imagined it going down too with Moon and Solar dragging Eclipse to therapy the beginning though when Eclipse called Earth a ... a not so nice name and Solar just going “say that again I dare you” Protective Solar YEAH ! 🥰🧡 wow ... despite Eclipse obviously not wanting to be there he did open up at some parts which is good ! I love how Moon was just there watching making sure everything was ok until he decided to go for the remainder of the session since he trust Earth THE ENDING THOUGH , MY JAW DROPPED AND I ALMOST SOBBED- Moon saying “I'm sorry for abandoning you” AWWWW MOON 🥺💙 it's sad Eclipse left before he heard it ... please tell me this is making way for a Eclipse Redemption ! I love how funny Eclipse can be ( and ngl his voice is WOOOO ) - despite the bad things Eclipse has done , he deserves a chance at redemption ! It Starts With Sorry ( yes Hazbin Hotel reference and yes I kin Charlie ) hopefully hopefully Eclipse can open up more and he'll have his path to redemption p.s : hope everyone in the comments has a wonderful week ^^ ♡
He has too much of an ego at this point. I know people everybody keeps saying he deserves redemption art but I don’t think so he’s done too much. I don’t care if people keeps saying this is not the same eclipse I don’t like him I’ll never see why people want this guy to have a redemption arc we have solar he’s the only eclipse I actually like what old did was rough, but eclipse did any of this version the old version that was his own choice and I’m not saying son or angels they’re not, but they didn’t deserve what eclipse did to them
im proud of you Moon you bring ur son to therapy he need LMAO!! HAHAHA! also im happy that Moon trying apologise to him even if Eclipse my still mad at him for abandoned him
Geez Eclipse really is an @$$ towards these guys. At least Solar knows how to deal with it in a calm and responsible manner, and Moon's thoughts about Eclipse are 'oh boy do I want to end you', but does see what Eclipse meant by 'abandoning' him. I feel awful that Earth had to deal with Eclipse's hysterics.
6:43 Even if the Sun and Moon family believed Eclipse back then or not, they still would've had problems, and Eclipse wouldn't have kept his word. So even though this situation they're in right now with the Astral bodies, Stitchwraith, and Lunars powers, it would probably be better than the alternative cause if they did listen to Eclipse then Lunar would still be dead, Solar would've never came here to live with them and his Moon would've hunted him down and scrap him, Ruin would still be psychotic and probably dead by Eclipse, and Frank probably would've never existed and if he did Eclipse probably would've just killed him too.
At the receptiomist bit rn and OMG 😂😂😂 Also legit us talking about how funny it'd be to see Eclipse get forced to go to therapy and tadaaa! Lmao I feel maybe Sun could help him the most despite how much Eclipse hates him.. they could relate to eachother in a way
Good job moon I’m proud of you (but also the moon wasn’t the bad he had a heart in the end and is the reason your here but that is not important what is that moon got his wish and I think he was a jerk at times but he had a heart when it was need and that is why your like This so give him some credit he tried his best ) also this long
I LOVE THE WAY MOON IS TREATING ECLIPSE😭 0:01 forcing him lol 0:39 bros sick of life 1:12💀 1:19 you do 1:21 WOW 1:28 overprotective😌 1:45 ME 3 8:22 WOW 8:52 YOUR TURN BOOM 9:02 horrible 😃 9:40 UH UH NO DISRESPECT HERE😡 13:11 DAMN😨 15:23 I forgot about that 16:16 yes 16:25 give bro a new pair of lungs 17:01 HENSHSHEHEIEGUEVEJEVWHWBWJWHEHEHEHEVEV 18:52 oh 19:41 DONT APOLOGIZE 20:11 NO MOON 20:20 I kinda want to see that
Huh.. well I knew he wouldn't come in willingly, Moon had to drag him along. Solar also being the receptionist and doing the bit had me chuckle a little. Moon acting like a "parent" also had me chuckling, very silly. That sillyness aside, I didn't expect Eclipse to open up much, I just expected him to be mostly aggressive, rude and curse out at the 3. Glad they handled him well enough to deal with him though, dude certainly didn't express much care or concern for Lunar. Sad as that is to hear.. but even if he probably did truly care deep down he'd probably not say a thing about that. But the fact he did in regards to waking up out of their own body and finding it horrifying really says a lot, he actually opened up a bit and that's good progress! May not be a lot, but it's better than nothing. The ending of this though really sticks with me, Moon apologizing for what his old self did.. That really was just saddening to hear. A lot of this was caused by the old Moon in a way, Eclipse getting left behind like that definitely did a number on all of them. (Wonder what would happen if Moon did ever meet his old self.. I feel like that'd be a really big doozy of an encounter.)
if I can say! maybe he did cared for Lunar! we know he felt bad when he hit him. and in the ep where the star kid talk to him in the island- he said "even if I hated Lunar" - so .. he doesnt hate him.. but of course, would never say he cares - because then it show he can be vulnerable! he doesnt want that also - maybe the whole "Im not myself anymore" is getting to him and is why he's not as rude as he used to be!- maybe foxy's words that- he needs to be himself- may have made him think!
I 100% agree, he's definitely not as rude as he once was, still occasionally like that of course on some events. But he's mellowed somewhat, I also still think he cares for Lunar deep down. But of course would never say that. @@VisionTheFox
@@ERINCHAMPION5000 shame he wont say it tho-- maybe finally letting go of what he really thinks may be better for him but- I feel that may look like wants Lunar to fotgive him.. and Lunar has no reason to do so! but- may be good for him to let that out and Lunar to know.. they could finally move on!
Wowza, Earth actually got him to open up! For all about 5 seconds, but that's still progress. It's nice of New Moon to apologize, but it's Old Moon that needs to do it. And why do I feel like that last line is foreshadowing? 😮
0:00 😂😂😂 bro being sent to therapy 2:49 trust us Eclipse. He knows all your problems 3:50 bro does not like being revived against his will 5:10 he really don't 5:26 😂 5:48 😂😂😂 Moon omg 7:40 oop 7:53 for good reasons tho 8:24 the audacity 9:05 calm down 9:49 bro be the new Whilliam Afton 10:13 she got a point 11:01 you are asking for a punch 12:05 fixing what? 12:28 now i wanna know!!! 13:12 Ha! 😂 16:21 you killed him 18:04 O.O he opening up? 18:20 he opening up! Slowly. BUT HE IS 19:17 😂 19:43 suuuure 19:58 damn he did not hear it 20:17 no Moon that was not you that was the old Moon
I KNEW THAT ECLIPSE HAD TO GO IN A THERAPY SESSION, HE NEEDS IT SO MUCH (In my opinion :'). The thumbnail slays so much 💅💅✨✨. AND HIS LAUGH THO- His laugh makes him even scarier than he is 😭- (Plus he didn't want to go to the therapy session, but he REALLY needs it..)
Poor Eclipse being dragged in Eclipse being sassy this entire time 9:00 Why do I love this part so much 💥MONTY PLEA-💥 20:17 It would be so cool if moon talked to the other him
Eclipse getting therapy fills you with determination. I'm in class, so sorry that I'm late. Edit: *You apologize for being rushed. The reason why they were rushing on this comment is because they were in school. This reasonable action fills you with determination and it fills the person saying this with exhaustion.*
uy uh maybe dont watch youtube in class? like I know it can be boring and useless at times - but- dont risk getting in trouble kid, wait til you are home to get in the web.. you dont need to comment seconds after they post- you dont need to rush yourself..
@@VisionTheFox Usually people look forward for my comment. I only clicked on it to comment, but I didn't actually watch the video until later. Thanks for letting me know though.
If new and old moon talk can they please discuss sun and the "whacking stick" situation. Feels like it was glossed over because it was a bit. I still find it deeply upsetting 😶
I feel like eclipse is like a tough hardened and chewy outer core and on the inside of his protection is maybe a person like Solar, behind all the trauma and facades is maybe a kinder person
he did show to feel bad minutes after he hit Lunar , and apparently doesnt hate lunar! so maybe he is putting on a show to act strong but-- he only wants to belong!
Remember that "Shut" meme from reacting video? I wanna slap Eclipse with that picture every time he speaks. It's damn hilarious to hate Eclipse as a person, but enjoy his voice because Davis is a wonderful voice actor, though.
Earth is right. Eclipse is deflecting attention off of himself. I’m giving a list of when he does this 3:00 Eclipse says to Moon: “Let’s talk about you you egotistical maniac.” He’s trying to get Earth to talk to Moon instead of him. 5:09 He’s being sarcastic to stop talking about his problems 5:22 arguing with Moon slightly about the appointment 5:39 Arguing with Earth about therapy Now let’s analyze what Earth is getting on to as well. Earth says “I feel like something’s wrong and broken deep inside of you, and you don’t want to talk about it.” […] “I don’t mean to say broken because broken is a mean term but something hurt you and you’re covering for it by acting like you don’t care. Acting all big and bad. Did you ever care?” From watching Eclipse’s birth to (multiple) deaths, we as the viewers can actually tell what these “traumas” are. We know that Eclipse actually cared about Lunar at one point in time, but he was betrayed by Lunar to Sun and Moon. Moon hated Eclipse from the moment he was born and blamed Eclipse for everything wrong with Sun. KillCode also betrayed Eclipse by becoming good and siding with Sun and Moon. Bloodmoon, his own creation/sibling tried to kill him. Eclipse wants to die. He can but he just keeps being brought back to life. He wants to die and stay dead. Eclipse feels Sun’s pain of abuse from the old Moon, that’s why he’s angrier at Moon than Sun. Eclipse had to watch from Sun’s head while Sun was verbally, physically and emotionally abused. Eclipse (when he got the star) wiped everyone’s memories so everyone liked him. Eclipse wanted to feel loved, even though it wasn’t real. Eclipse egged Lunar on to kill him because Eclipse was too cowardly and afraid to do it himself. Earth is right. Eclipse does feel abandoned. Because he was abandoned. Everyone he cared about either died or betrayed him. In Eclipse’s death in Solar’s dimension, you can see the final moments of Eclipse and Solar Flare. When Solar flare walked off into the darkness to finally rest, Eclipse called out to him to stop him. Eclipse wanted Solar Flare to stay with him, he didn’t want to be alone again. He felt that Solar Flare knew and understood him because Solar Flare saw through his eyes. Eclipse was abandoned.
THE FUDGIN’ DORITO?! Also isn’t Earth taking a break? I don’t think she needs this 😭 1:12 HE SAID ‘son’ LMFAOOO they’ve seen the videos- 3:11 NAH ALL THE EARTH FANS ABOUT TO KICK ECLIPSE’S A- (the creators r really trying to get the fans to hate him) 4:59 Moon would 💀 6:42 which BY THE WAY you would’ve killed them 9:02 not important, bud. stop changing the subject 12:05 ..he makes a point tbh 13:08 OHHH GO EARTH 14:41 i should ask Lunar, Bloodmoon and Solar Flare the same question! 16:15 OH, BUDDY, YOU DID ALOT MORE THAN HURT HIS FEELINGS. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DEMONSTRATE? 17:26 yeah I can’t empathise with this guy. How do y’all do it?! 18:53 Earth was not takin that 💀 19:41 HUH?! MOON DO U STILL FEEL- oh…
"God forbid I ever speak with the other me" Please please PLEASE let this be foreshadowing! I've wanted New and Old Moon to somehow meet for a long time. If it does happen, hopefully Sun gets to speak to him too, given the guilt he still harbors for his death. Not to mention the fact that their final conversation was the fight where Moon trapped Sun in that magic box. Plus, I imagine Sun still loves Old Moon, even if he's more aware if the ways he hurt him. Those two were the only family they had for most of their lives, after all 😔
You know what. I fucking love this!!! As Eclipse being my fav character this was fun.❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 all I hope is that eclipse never becomes a goody two shoes!
It's sad that Moon is apologising for something he didn't even do. But i'm still not over what happened to FC, bro didn't deserve this (Bloodmoon and Stichwratch. If you do something bad to FC, i'm throwing hands‼️‼️)
@@Ijustexistfornoreason I mean Moon did admit that he did abandon him but could be the reason their gonna bring old Moon to met new Moon Eclipse apologizing is somewhat of a start might even do therapy again with Earth cuz he did somewhat open himself up to her
@@Nyx_Phantom769Old Moon abandoned Eclipse, not New Moon. But i would like to see Old Moon and New Moon to talk (New Moon would be very agressive towards Old Moon, Old Moon would be very regretful i think).
I have to admit...that was...interesting, but what I want to know is what was he trying to say before he cut himself off and just stopped talking. Did he realize something important and is now keeping it to himself? Also, I think Moon is starting to understand Eclipse a little better now. I mean if that apologizing that Moon was trying to do means anything, it means that he's starting to see that maybe Eclipse is also a victim of 'old Moon's' influences.
not solar and moon going protective big brothers mode lets be honest solar is a brother to not cousin. Earth is such a good person helping everyone while dealing with her own trauma I mean she gave therapy with stitch wrath.
Eclipse didn't care about anyone else because deep down, he was afraid of being betrayed and abandoned again. (the old Moon betrayed him and left him behind, stuck inside Sun's head) He stopped caring about Lunar after Lunar betrayed him. (he did care about Lunar (though it was very small), he felt like apologizing after hitting him. (and he did after a day it happened.) but he was struggling with his own feelings and questioning himself of why he still cared.) it all stems from the old Moon abandoning Eclipse inside Sun's head. He doesn't want to get close or attached to anyone because he fears being abandoned again. He doesn't trust anyone, because he fears that he will be betrayed. That is also why Eclipse represses his own feelings, (even happiness) and acts as though he doesn't care.
True
Eclipse doesn't know how to feel loved by anyone, because he's never felt it. Probably why he. Didn't like Earth, even though she was being nice to him😢
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We got a psychologist up in here
Nah, it’s kinda his falt he got betrayed
THEY DRAGGED HIM IN OML!
19:53 M: "Probably not what you wanna hear but I'm sorry-.."
Eclipse leaves
M: "..For abandoning you..."
20:11 M: "I really did cause all this.. just because I couldn't handle my own problems.."
I love how Moon is genuinely acting like a parent
“Look at you, son! Look at you being studious.”
EDIT: “I’m sorry for abandoning you.” Okay Moon just keep pulling at our heart strings why don’t ya
I do wonder if that’s foreshadowing though that Moon might somehow meet the old Moon
I kinda hope so. I feel like Old Moon would be proud of New Moon in a way. He’s fulfilling Old Moons last wish
I'm still holding out hope that KC is out there somewhere, pulling a Zero from MMX6. Maybe use his shared memories with Old Moon to rebuild some sort of consciousness, replacing or supplanting KC's own. We know that he wanted to sacrifice himself in the end, maybe he would see it as a way to repay Old Moon.
@@RotaAbyssianYES I HAVE BEEN THINKING THAT FOR AGESSSS
Good idea
Sadly it typically is I mean blood moon was foreshadowed lunar was foreshadowed Eclipse was foreshadowed the Creator and Earth both were foreshadowed everybody was foreshadowed.
1:54 ECLIPSE IS NOW INSPECTING THE WALLPAPERS PFFT
‘Cheap alcohol’ - Eclipse 2024
20:21 isn't Eclipse techniclly just Old Moon? He was a bit of code that got left behind when Moon split from Sun.
12:16 Eclipse was 100% going to say the actual Moon, but i wonder what's going on in his scrambled mind to make him stop?
Gotta love how Moon is treating Eclipse like a literal child
"I'm sorry... for abandoning you..."
MOON HOLY CRAP. THAT ALMOST MADE ME CRY
Ikr
That DID make me cry😢
*Time stamp?*
Me too 😢😢😢
@@Introvert-Gal 19:51
5:00 "Oh well you see, my mother used to beat me with batteries in a sock when I was younger." NAH BRO THATS MY FAVORITE PART-
Edit: Oml 155 likes? Thank you all so much!
Another Edit: 231?!?!
☠️😂
this part broke me for some reason-
@@m1lkslice irkk
Ok so- you can tell eclipse actually almost answered earths questions several times, then he thought about it, would look back at moon and say something completely different to try and make everyone there upset
Also, listen to how quiet he is. Eclipse has always been the type to quickly follow up with a jab towards someone, but here, especially towards the end? Barely any sign of him having anything to say. Just sitting there, taking it in. He even OPENED UP a few times, even if it was only a little bit. I’m honestly pretty proud of Eclipse for doing that. It’s progress, even if just a little bit.
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This may be based off personal bias, but if Eclipse does want to apologize and actually get on good terms with everyone he should try and ease in by starting with an apology to sun. He is one of the only people who actually would listen, and has been empathetic to Eclipse in the past
He might not forgive him, but is actually willing to give him a chance if Eclipse actually shows he wants to change (if he ever wants to)
TOOK HIM LONG ENOUGH! GOOD JOB MOON😂
1:28 SOLAR NOT HAVING THAT DISRESPECT TOWARDS EARTH 👏
5:01 Beating him with a sock of batteries- sounds about right.
HE WAS NOT ABOUT TO TAKE THAT 👏
@@xPoisonedStardustxFR
Was the batteries in a sock a reference to Circus Baby’s butter sock 😂.
If you know you know. 😊
@@cmavclmao yea
This is a balloon boy reference BATTERIES!?
Not moon forcing eclipse to get therapy 😭
For real
Now it's stitchwraith's turn to force bloodmoon for therapy lol
@@TwitteryStorm82
bloodmoon during therapy
Earth. So how was your day
Bloodmoon. BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD
@@AtelierdeMode lol, either that or he starts slowly opening up as well
IMAGINE-@@TwitteryStorm82
19:57 tears tears right now! That’s probably what eclipse ever wanted- he would’ve denied it but still 😢
19:53 Imagine Eclipse was just behind the door when Moon said this,
Now that would be something, but tbh I hope Eclipse heard that. I want him to be redeemed now more than ever, I already DID want him to be redeemed when he first came back to life for the second time. Now that he actually has a chance, I'm all for it. PLEASE JUST REDEEM HIM ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed with you!
Nah fr cuz when I saw the title I was like "REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION REDEMPTION" I was excited.
Redeem da abandonment issues, child i kin him and I need him to be at least a ok person
@@RobloxaddictedTherian EXACTLY
Eclipse fans really make me wonder if you are all the type who would like a redemption of Belos from TOH... Seriously, he didn't even show a reason why he's redeemable, and trauma isn't a very strong point! Him being a traumatized baby doesn't justify him getting redemption! If that were the case, Starlight Glimmer would be more loved in the MLP community! Series, TRAUMA DOES NOT EXCUSE MURDER, ABUSE AND SEXISM!!! HE LITERALLY CALLED EARTH H*RE!!!!
Hm........
THE F***ING BLACK DORITO FINALY GETS THERAPY
5:00 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Seriously Eclipse
19:56 "I'm sorry......for abandoning you." Moon, it wasn't you it was the other you
Eclipse: "You really are an idiot..."
Earth: "A harmless one compared to you😃"
Tbh I was not expecting that from earth XD
Goof grief.. never having control of your life really is misery. Though it did feel like Earth managed to make a dent in that shell of his. I love how Moon kept apologizing to earth. He felt so bad for putting her through that.
Earth is so kind for trying to help Eclipse. He reminds me of a dog that never knew what love and kindness is, just pain and and abandonment. So when someone reaches out to pet him he'll bite back to protect himself.
Which..... is very on point really.
Moon's apology at the end hurts so much.
Though I wonder what him and old him would would react to the other. Really something else
Eclipse, it really is better when you are *BRUTALLY HONEST* in therapy.
When I was in group therapy, I was so honest I made people cry just by talking about my shit.
I mean if you actually talk about what’s on your mind, it can really mess with people. I’m sure you’d screw with a lot of people that way.
Edit: Also before anyone asks, no, I’m *NOT* allowed back at group therapy, either.
Why
I knew I wasn’t the only one! 😄
@@ilovemy_husbandsWhy did I make people cry, or why am I no longer allowed back at group therapy?
The answer to both those questions is the same, and you probably do not want to know it.
FINALLY!!!!
Moon: “I’m sorry for…abandoning you.”
Eclipse: “you ever what it’s like waking up outside your own body?”
Earth: “it’s scary, isn’t it?”
Eclipse: “…horrifying.”
HE’S OPENING UP!!!!!!
OH MY GOD THIS IS LEAPS AND BOUNDS!!!!!!
FR
@@YNtooECLIPSE?
@@Mimi_on_Paws546 yez
When earth said revenge was pointless eclipse was about to say something but he stop himself
Earth is my favorite
"God forbid i ever speak with the other me" I want that so fucking bad. I wanna see that. I want to see him yell at his other self
It would be interesting but GOOD GOD if they do that, could you imagine the drama is Sun was brought along?!
@@-SassyBritches- Like what would happen! That was Sun's brother and they were just barely getting into a good relationship but all that happened... Old moon was getting better, Sun was in a bad state but Sun has so much regret. I would say if they met it would be emotional for both parties but if Moon met Old moon that would be an argument
yaas!
NO WAY THEY GOT HIM 😭😭
IMAGINE IF LUNAR WAS STILL CHECKING EVERYONE IN
That would be so bad
Lunar: *panik*
Oh dear God Eclipse would die again.
bro would get exploded again (i'll let you decide which one im talking abt)
@@iamtheairbagg
"I'll let you decide which one-"
*Both.*
*Explosions are funky.*
OMG FINALLY!!!
19:56 "I'm sorry for abandoning you"
OMG I want to cry
It's surprising that Moon actually apologized to Eclipse for abandoning him. (though that was the old Moon that did that.) if only Eclipse had stayed a little longer to hear Moon say that.
Maybe Eclipse heard that? Because who knows if he disappeared immediately or maybe he waited outside the door?
There's hope. I believe that Eclipse will be redeemed.
@@katarzynamedynska1682 personally, I would prefer if the Original Eclipse got redemption. The original Eclipse was forced out of Sun's body with magic, however, Sun mispronounced part of the spell. Moon said that because of that, Eclipse was either dead, or out in the woods somewhere, but unable to move. (but alive) Sun and Moon never went out to the woods to check and see if Eclipse was there or not. This Eclipse just seems like he just doesn't care anymore. He just wants to find who remade him and why.
@@Zer0FNaFUndertalelover I understand your point of view but I think that Eclipse cares but acts like he doesn't because it hurts him too much..
@@katarzynamedynska1682 true.
12:10 It is really intresting how it seems that Eclipse realized he was saying too much, how he actively avoids opening up. Maybe one day he will, I highly doubt that he will get to that point before they find who keeps bringing him back.
OOF that comeback :
“You really are an idiot”
“A harmless one compared to you”
Earth with the comeback of the century
At last!! Getting to the heart of the problem! Seriously though, imagine your literal self abandons you to your greatest fear: being trapped.
Old Moon never sincerely faced that but New Moon is 😢
I definitely think Eclipse cared. He cared for Sun when he was part of Moon. He also cared for Lunar, literally creating him as a replacement Sun, and unfortunately treating him the same controlling way.
Fuck me running, they GOT this guy in the therapy room?! I was thinking how hilarious it'd be, but I never considered it would be DONE. I CANNOT BELIEVE OR FATHOM IT
Same Here you Not Alone in This We all know that he's the villain and we all know that he's a jerk and a waste of space but at the same time he could be useful if he's not a complete Bastard but at the same time poor lunar. He has been through a lot. He doesn't need trauma anymore. I feel bad for him but Anyway time to See the Magic of Earth Help Within this Dude Put into possibly may help him or to a little bit control and better and work with him on a better note than past times and past reasoned events that caused him to be like this 😊😂
I mean, yeah. Eclipse genuinely was HURT by the og moon, he flat out asked "Why leave me behind?" and he hadn't even DONE anything yet, but Moon....kinda treated him like unwanted garbage. I mean, he also did Sun dirty by just leaving code in his head without permission or warning which was in of itself another dick move. I think Eclipse has a hard time accepting that the one who did him wrong is actually kinda.... just gone. If he does accept that, well who can he direct his.... anger towards besides throwing it around wildly? At his core, like he said when Freddy and Funtime visited him on their channel, he felt/was betrayed by "himself". He actually...he won't admit it, but he still seems hurt by that. He hasn't moved past it.@@Roselyn-Witter
@@25shadow11💞 True I Agree with You and Have You Seen Sun and Moon Show I will Not Spoil it For You It's Great you Will Love It 💜
i think the saddest thing is Moon apologizing for him abandoning Eclipse shows how he's seeing that Eclipse is the way he is because he was never shown love before and felt so weird about Lunar liking him and trying to love him that he pushed him away, which caused Eclipse to remain alone for over 2 years after being left behind in Sun and it shows how Moon is possibly regretting his past choices, but what makes it sadder is Eclipse is still so used to being abandoned and rejected that it's near impossible for him to imagine anyone aside from Earth actually caring and wanting to do something for him out of pure kindness and free will rather than being forced.
“I’m sorry for abandoning you” got me crying so much. I love Moon so much.
“I don’t know what you wanna hear but... I’m sorry.. for-.... *sigh* abandoning you...”
That just made me cry😭
13:10 Savage Earth is EVERYTHING
19:53 If ONLY he hadn’t left the room, but he’s just too blindsided in his own head
20:21 I REALLY hope that this is potential foreshadowing for Old Moon to make a return somehow (even if only for one day or from a different l dimension or something) because I would LOVE to see how Sun would react to that and what New Moon would say.
Eclipse is so broken and hurt from being betrayed and abandoned so many times that he acts like he does not care about anyone or anything as a trauma response.
00:00 "Arent you just so *peachy*?" TEEHEE WHAT
FR WHY HE SAY THAT WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN???? 🍑🍑🍑🍑??
GOT THAT PEACHY FR@@drawanime3047
@@drawanime3047I think peachy in that context means great or amazing or brilliant or something like that.
@@i_gave_up_on_everything probably meaning sweet but it's just weird he said peachy instead of any other word lol
Am I the only one who think Eclipse is flirting with Moon? First he said if Moon wanted him to get on his knees , than he called him sweety and now peachy. What is next? Baby?😂
13:05-13:13
Eclipse: Wow, you really are an idiot!
Earth: A harmless one compared to you.
POP OFF QUEEN!!!
4:17 the way they both look at moon 😭
8:22 lmao thats so mean
11:41 MONTY PLEA-
13:10 "A harmless one compared to you 🥰" DAMN-
Earth just roasted him 💀🤚for him calling her and idiot literally being called idiot back 🤣🤣
19:54 OMG.. THIS IS ACTUALLY SAD 😭😭 even though i hate (New) Moon this is actually sad, hes sorry for abandoning Eclipse even though its not the other Moon… as much as i hate (New) Moon this is actually sad wthh?? 😭😭
OH GOD THE MOLDY DORITO GETS THERAPY…
To be honest, Earth just wants to help everyone, even the bad guys and I adore her for that, good job Earth!
HELP- I READ MOLDY DORITO AND FELL OFF OF MY CHAIR 😭
Moldeh Dorytoe
@@JerknotajockSORRY 😂😂😂
@@HeyImJoyfulPhantomyup
HE'S A MOLDY DORITO REAL :3
I ALSO LOVE EARTH SM TOOO!!!
THIS HURS. THIS ACTUALLY HURTS.😭
Eclipse is trying to convince himself that he doesnt care about anything/anyone so he doesnt get attached to it, therefore he cant get hurt again.
AND WHEN MOON WAS ABOUT TO SAY HES SORRY BUT ECLIPSE WALKED AWAY BEFORE HE COULD I ACTUALLY SCREAMED "NO-" AHHHHH this is so sad😭
ECLIPSE, MY GUY, help is being HANDED to you JUST TAKE IT. if u just had trust in someone for A SEC u could get help... it could get better, everyone could heal. why dont u want that?? /lh
man PLEASEEE let this be the start of his redemption arc, PLEASE I BEG🙏😭
I hope he opens up to earth about caring about things so he can't get hurt
20:18 I HOPE SO. Moon vs Moon. I really, REALLY wanna see that 😭
1:20 THERES NO WAY ECLIPSE CALLED EARTH A… *starts crying on the ground*
I feel bad for eclipse sm. I understand how he feels, and it’s awful, I hope he gets more therapy and actually takes it seriously
Eclipse, you fr need to stop being stubborn and talk about your issues bud. Love him though lmfao
Oooooo this is going to be good!!
00:00 forcing
00:38 name?
1:10 checking if Earths ready
1:21 swear count 1
1:36 “awh tank you so much” the Gooder one 🙄
1:43 entering
1:50 did bro say sorry?
2:21 bro sits finally
2:28 ohh it was moon i get it know lol
2:49 ooo ✨ problems ✨
3:25 starting?
3:28 ✨ ugh ✨
3:36 manic laughing
3:56 earth is prob like oh.. this makes it worse
4:05 swear count 2!
Sun and moon posted.. Earth turns into smth I gotta see that rn but I won’t
NOT MOON FORCING ECLIPSE INTO THERAPY 💀
ECLIPSE IS NOT BEING SERIOUS AT ALL 💀😭 "MY MOTHER USED TO BEAT ME WITH SOCK QND BATTERIES-" BE SO FR RN 😭💀
5:50 the hell he mean by that? 💀
(Also, I got a Sun and Moon show notification, why the hell is Earth a goose?? 💀)
6:45: says the evil man, as if he didn't have a different reaction after slapping Lunar, aka, when Lunar and him took over the channel. I shall repeat the words Eclipse said, "why did i do that?"
7:50: shut up and take the therapy session you black dorito.
9:03: BRUH. SHUT UP ABOUT EXPLODING LUNAR- 💀😭
9:20: Damn, gagged him- he silent now...and he started laughing- probably to hide the fact that Earth is saying the truth 😝
9:42 BRO LEAVE MONTY ALONE 😭💀
10:39: crazy, he can’t even lie to the viewers about his backstory, because it was made into a video- 💀 he better not make a whole backstory lie 😂
10:56: bro look at his eyes, he is not looking at earth 💀
11:52: okay, shut up for a moment. This feels more of an interrogation then a therapy session ngl 💀
12:17: Oop- he silent agai💀😛
13:01: YOU INNOCENT SOUL, MY STARS I LOVE YOU- 😭😭☺️
14:31: ooooo….. abandonment and trust issues..crazy 💀😒
16:20: bruh. You killed him, for what? I’m guessing it’s because he wasn’t in your control anymore- 😒
17:08: that make sense about the “test” parts- ok 👌🏽
18:05: wait……is opening up? 😃😀
18:54 yo, you wildin’ 💀
19:13: yo, why is Eclipse taller then Moon?! Why did he grow?? 💀
19:43: he continued walking, then I’m guessing just realized what Moon said and turned around. 😃
19:55 Moon…why are you pulling on the heart strings?? 😭
Also, isn’t like Eclipse the third “sibling”? Cause it was sun, then Moon, and then Eclipse who showed up first then any of the other characters, so I just imagined Eclipse just walked out and didn’t bother to listen to his “older” brother, aka Moon. 😃
1:28 Solar aint having none of that. ECLIPSE BE NICE TO EARTH OR ILL PERSONALY FIND YOU MYSELF (this is a joke)
YAAAAYYYYY THERAPY :D ruin was right! HE NEED THERAPY :D 13:12 the sound effect omg-
I SCREAMED SO LOUD OMG YESSSSSS
1:21 OMG HE CALLED HER A WHORE..
Did moon seriously just call Eclipse, son , at least he's accepting it , wait that means Lunar is moon and sun's grandchild and Eclipse is the creator's grandchild
Yay! Weird family tree ❤
19:55 AWWWW MOOON APOLOGIZING FOR LEAVING HIM BEHIND😢😢😢
I love how in the end moon starts to feel bad for Eclipse for what the other him did to him... I hope that someday he has a talk to Eclipse about everything that has happened.
Moon at the end of this video with that apology, that made me so emotional I had to go outside and breathe. As a person who wants to be a therapist I’ve analyzed these characters a lot, and the abandonment thing is the root of Eclipse’s issue, if Eclipse heard that apology it could have gotten a ball rolling to his path of healing. “Could have” being the phrase, we don’t know for sure but it’s very possible especially with how Eclipse was before he died in Solar’s world.
I genuinely thought he would have to be restrained to the couch. every time he got up and moved towards Earth’s desk, my heart dropped
Idk why but Moon is giving me "changed father that returned after fifteen years and wants to make amends" vibes while Eclipse is giving me "why change now? Why try to make amends for what you did? Why come back after so many years?!" vibes. (Because I just can't unsee the family tree for all of the celestial animatronics that I purposely tried to piece together and make sense of. If you want to know then comment to this comment and I will reply when I have time.)
Finally eclipes getting some therapy!!! Took him long enough-
The new moon would definitely have some... not so nice words to say to the old moon. (Edit): Old moon would probably also ask if NM(new moon) is treating Sun better than he did since that was kinda his final words or smth like that.
Yeh that could happen
I feel like the new one would punch the old Moon like he did to Sun
That also could happen as well
stop that last thing moon said made me want to cry. im all cought up on the sun and moon show but I have been trying to watch every vid on this chanle as well sence it also as lore and silly moments. the first year of T.s.a.m. I hated eclipse, he could have spoken up and asked for help or something, chose to be friends. but lately iv been able to see things from his prospective, I have grown in my knowledge and I understand him now. how could he care about anyone when no one ever cared for him? how could he beleive anyone ever could care for him after everything that happened to him, and everything he has done. I used to hate that people liked eclipse and felt bad for him, but I understand now, and even though I know this moon (nexus) doesn't care like he used to here in this vid, it still hurts but warms my heart to see him expressing how he is sorry for something he honestly didn't really do. To be far if eclipse did here him, or listen to him before he left the room, he would most likely have just gotten really mad, or not believe moon. it is way to late for moon to be saying sorry, eclipse is deeply imbedded with that trauma, that mind set is his primary coding, (literally). eclipse doesnt care, maybe he is scared to care. or maybe he has completly given up. to a point he reminds me of myself in some way like, in the eclipse and puppet show him heloing others even though he hates them or is pissed at them, I do that a lot, like ill be mad at someone or hate that person but if they need help like if they drop something or get hurt, or even just feeling down I will check on them. this is so long for no reason lol, anyway sorry if my spelling sucks it late at night and im very tired, I am also not checking over it so-
Moon said sorry for abandoning Eclipse..
I’m not crying, you are! 😢
WE'RE BOTH CRYING!
@@Cosmicallyamess I’m not alone :,D
THE INSANE MAN IS FINALLY GETTING THERAPY WOOO!!
Wasn't gonna do time stamps today but just gotta say..
1:20: we love protective Solar ✨ THIS IS WHY HES MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER
Omg the ending. I actually think Eclipse might get a redemption arc….
20:23 other moon? Ooo yes please! I’d like that very much!
19:53 i have a good feelings about this apology....maybe there is a chance of redemption... and maybe Eclipse can finally get better mentality ^^
I have a feeling that soon enough we'll see a vid of Moon and Eclipse finally befriending eachother, well, maybe not befriending but just, stop hating each other-
Finally, i've been waiting for that, Eclipse really need it. We can feel it, he's not fine at all, he's always playing evil outside but inside he's in totally in pain since he was in sun's head.
I want somebody checking his mental and make her pure anger disappearing🥺
FINALLY ! this is exactly how I imagined it going down too
with Moon and Solar dragging Eclipse to therapy
the beginning though when Eclipse called Earth a ... a not so nice name and Solar just going “say that again I dare you”
Protective Solar YEAH ! 🥰🧡
wow ... despite Eclipse obviously not wanting to be there he did open up at some parts which is good !
I love how Moon was just there watching making sure everything was ok until he decided to go for the remainder of the session since he trust Earth
THE ENDING THOUGH , MY JAW DROPPED AND I ALMOST SOBBED-
Moon saying “I'm sorry for abandoning you”
AWWWW MOON 🥺💙
it's sad Eclipse left before he heard it ... please tell me this is making way for a Eclipse Redemption !
I love how funny Eclipse can be ( and ngl his voice is WOOOO ) - despite the bad things Eclipse has done , he deserves a chance at redemption !
It Starts With Sorry
( yes Hazbin Hotel reference and yes I kin Charlie )
hopefully
hopefully Eclipse can open up more
and he'll have his path to redemption
p.s : hope everyone in the comments has a wonderful week ^^ ♡
He has too much of an ego at this point. I know people everybody keeps saying he deserves redemption art but I don’t think so he’s done too much. I don’t care if people keeps saying this is not the same eclipse I don’t like him I’ll never see why people want this guy to have a redemption arc we have solar he’s the only eclipse I actually like what old did was rough, but eclipse did any of this version the old version that was his own choice and I’m not saying son or angels they’re not, but they didn’t deserve what eclipse did to them
Oh my that's a lot😮
Eclipse “you really are an idiot”
Earth “a harmless one compared to you”
Me 😮
im proud of you Moon you bring ur son to therapy he need LMAO!! HAHAHA!
also im happy that Moon trying apologise to him even if Eclipse my still mad at him for abandoned him
Geez Eclipse really is an @$$ towards these guys. At least Solar knows how to deal with it in a calm and responsible manner, and Moon's thoughts about Eclipse are 'oh boy do I want to end you', but does see what Eclipse meant by 'abandoning' him. I feel awful that Earth had to deal with Eclipse's hysterics.
Shes still caring for eclipse even though he did so much wrong things 😢❤
6:43 Even if the Sun and Moon family believed Eclipse back then or not, they still would've had problems, and Eclipse wouldn't have kept his word. So even though this situation they're in right now with the Astral bodies, Stitchwraith, and Lunars powers, it would probably be better than the alternative cause if they did listen to Eclipse then Lunar would still be dead, Solar would've never came here to live with them and his Moon would've hunted him down and scrap him, Ruin would still be psychotic and probably dead by Eclipse, and Frank probably would've never existed and if he did Eclipse probably would've just killed him too.
Glad this went fairly well. Solar taking over for Lunar while Moon stands there teaching Eclipse to be polite was hilarious.
At the receptiomist bit rn and OMG 😂😂😂
Also legit us talking about how funny it'd be to see Eclipse get forced to go to therapy and tadaaa! Lmao
I feel maybe Sun could help him the most despite how much Eclipse hates him.. they could relate to eachother in a way
Sun knew him longer than anyone, Eclipse saw the worst in Sun's mind.. maybe they could come clean to each other! since there's no mask to put on!
@@VisionTheFox exactly! We're on the same wave-length!
Ugh now I wanna rp this
@@Kiwiiwik2841 ohoh hope you get lucky to find someone!
Good job moon I’m proud of you (but also the moon wasn’t the bad he had a heart in the end and is the reason your here but that is not important what is that moon got his wish and I think he was a jerk at times but he had a heart when it was need and that is why your like This so give him some credit he tried his best ) also this long
I LOVE THE WAY MOON IS TREATING ECLIPSE😭
0:01 forcing him lol
0:39 bros sick of life
1:12💀
1:19 you do
1:21 WOW
1:28 overprotective😌
1:45 ME 3
8:22 WOW
8:52 YOUR TURN BOOM
9:02 horrible 😃
9:40 UH UH NO DISRESPECT HERE😡
13:11 DAMN😨
15:23 I forgot about that
16:16 yes
16:25 give bro a new pair of lungs
17:01 HENSHSHEHEIEGUEVEJEVWHWBWJWHEHEHEHEVEV
18:52 oh
19:41 DONT APOLOGIZE
20:11 NO MOON
20:20 I kinda want to see that
TOOK HIM LONG ENOUGH!!!! RUINS ADVICE IS WORKING YALL, GOOD JOB MOON, SOLAR AND EARTH
Huh.. well I knew he wouldn't come in willingly, Moon had to drag him along. Solar also being the receptionist and doing the bit had me chuckle a little. Moon acting like a "parent" also had me chuckling, very silly.
That sillyness aside, I didn't expect Eclipse to open up much, I just expected him to be mostly aggressive, rude and curse out at the 3. Glad they handled him well enough to deal with him though, dude certainly didn't express much care or concern for Lunar. Sad as that is to hear.. but even if he probably did truly care deep down he'd probably not say a thing about that. But the fact he did in regards to waking up out of their own body and finding it horrifying really says a lot, he actually opened up a bit and that's good progress! May not be a lot, but it's better than nothing.
The ending of this though really sticks with me, Moon apologizing for what his old self did.. That really was just saddening to hear. A lot of this was caused by the old Moon in a way, Eclipse getting left behind like that definitely did a number on all of them. (Wonder what would happen if Moon did ever meet his old self.. I feel like that'd be a really big doozy of an encounter.)
if I can say! maybe he did cared for Lunar! we know he felt bad when he hit him. and in the ep where the star kid talk to him in the island- he said "even if I hated Lunar" - so .. he doesnt hate him.. but of course, would never say he cares - because then it show he can be vulnerable! he doesnt want that
also - maybe the whole "Im not myself anymore" is getting to him and is why he's not as rude as he used to be!- maybe foxy's words that- he needs to be himself- may have made him think!
I 100% agree, he's definitely not as rude as he once was, still occasionally like that of course on some events. But he's mellowed somewhat, I also still think he cares for Lunar deep down. But of course would never say that. @@VisionTheFox
@@ERINCHAMPION5000 shame he wont say it tho-- maybe finally letting go of what he really thinks may be better for him but-
I feel that may look like wants Lunar to fotgive him.. and Lunar has no reason to do so! but- may be good for him to let that out and Lunar to know.. they could finally move on!
Wowza, Earth actually got him to open up! For all about 5 seconds, but that's still progress.
It's nice of New Moon to apologize, but it's Old Moon that needs to do it. And why do I feel like that last line is foreshadowing? 😮
0:00 😂😂😂 bro being sent to therapy
2:49 trust us Eclipse. He knows all your problems
3:50 bro does not like being revived against his will
5:10 he really don't
5:26 😂
5:48 😂😂😂 Moon omg
7:40 oop
7:53 for good reasons tho
8:24 the audacity
9:05 calm down
9:49 bro be the new Whilliam Afton
10:13 she got a point
11:01 you are asking for a punch
12:05 fixing what?
12:28 now i wanna know!!!
13:12 Ha! 😂
16:21 you killed him
18:04 O.O he opening up?
18:20 he opening up! Slowly. BUT HE IS
19:17 😂
19:43 suuuure
19:58 damn he did not hear it
20:17 no Moon that was not you that was the old Moon
OH MY DORITOS-
✨FINALLY HE GETS THERAPY✨😋
19:58 NOOOO😭😭😭 THERE MAKING ME CRY AGAINNNN😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I KNEW THAT ECLIPSE HAD TO GO IN A THERAPY SESSION, HE NEEDS IT SO MUCH (In my opinion :').
The thumbnail slays so much 💅💅✨✨.
AND HIS LAUGH THO-
His laugh makes him even scarier than he is 😭-
(Plus he didn't want to go to the therapy session, but he REALLY needs it..)
yeah but he doesn’t want it-
(plus there’s nothing that could fix that guy imo 💀)
@@xPoisonedStardustxgood point tho ;-;
Poor Eclipse being dragged in
Eclipse being sassy this entire time
9:00 Why do I love this part so much 💥MONTY PLEA-💥
20:17 It would be so cool if moon talked to the other him
2:03 THE WAY HE THREW THE ALCOHOL😭
Eclipse getting therapy fills you with determination. I'm in class, so sorry that I'm late.
Edit: *You apologize for being rushed. The reason why they were rushing on this comment is because they were in school. This reasonable action fills you with determination and it fills the person saying this with exhaustion.*
Perfectly reasonable buddy I get it glad the teacher didn’t catch you just like when we snuck out of bed for chocolate
@@LaurieMurray1344 *Yeah, thanks.*
uy uh maybe dont watch youtube in class? like I know it can be boring and useless at times - but- dont risk getting in trouble kid, wait til you are home to get in the web.. you dont need to comment seconds after they post-
you dont need to rush yourself..
@@VisionTheFox Usually people look forward for my comment. I only clicked on it to comment, but I didn't actually watch the video until later. Thanks for letting me know though.
@@charathedemon5939 ah okay! but yea- dont rush yourself! :D
I love how Moon just drags Eclipse around and forces therapy for him 😂😂😂
HE IS STILL A MOLDY DORITO THO
Same😂
OUR SOGGY CAT IS GETTING THERAPY OMGOMGOMG
….Moon said sorry? MOON SAID SORRY?? Best episode ever. I wish Eclipse stayed to listen.
If new and old moon talk can they please discuss sun and the "whacking stick" situation. Feels like it was glossed over because it was a bit. I still find it deeply upsetting 😶
"a harmless one, compared to you" 💀WOAHHHHH WOAHHH SLAYYY GIRLBOSS EARTH WHAT
I feel like eclipse is like a tough hardened and chewy outer core and on the inside of his protection is maybe a person like Solar, behind all the trauma and facades is maybe a kinder person
he did show to feel bad minutes after he hit Lunar , and apparently doesnt hate lunar! so maybe he is putting on a show to act strong but-- he only wants to belong!
The Mexican lollipop is back!! Sweet and then spicy dust on top!!
*Solar acting as the receptionist for lunar*
*eclipse being his normal self*
*me not knowing who tf is talking*
PLEASE LET ECLIPSE BE REDEEMED!!! HE'S SO CLOSE TO TURNING GOOD, I CAN FEEL IT!!!
Eclipse: I dont need help from a needy daddy’s girl- Me: "immediately coughs 3x*
Remember that "Shut" meme from reacting video? I wanna slap Eclipse with that picture every time he speaks.
It's damn hilarious to hate Eclipse as a person, but enjoy his voice because Davis is a wonderful voice actor, though.
Earth is right. Eclipse is deflecting attention off of himself. I’m giving a list of when he does this
3:00 Eclipse says to Moon: “Let’s talk about you you egotistical maniac.” He’s trying to get Earth to talk to Moon instead of him.
5:09 He’s being sarcastic to stop talking about his problems
5:22 arguing with Moon slightly about the appointment
5:39 Arguing with Earth about therapy
Now let’s analyze what Earth is getting on to as well. Earth says “I feel like something’s wrong and broken deep inside of you, and you don’t want to talk about it.” […] “I don’t mean to say broken because broken is a mean term but something hurt you and you’re covering for it by acting like you don’t care. Acting all big and bad. Did you ever care?”
From watching Eclipse’s birth to (multiple) deaths, we as the viewers can actually tell what these “traumas” are.
We know that Eclipse actually cared about Lunar at one point in time, but he was betrayed by Lunar to Sun and Moon.
Moon hated Eclipse from the moment he was born and blamed Eclipse for everything wrong with Sun.
KillCode also betrayed Eclipse by becoming good and siding with Sun and Moon.
Bloodmoon, his own creation/sibling tried to kill him.
Eclipse wants to die. He can but he just keeps being brought back to life. He wants to die and stay dead.
Eclipse feels Sun’s pain of abuse from the old Moon, that’s why he’s angrier at Moon than Sun. Eclipse had to watch from Sun’s head while Sun was verbally, physically and emotionally abused.
Eclipse (when he got the star) wiped everyone’s memories so everyone liked him. Eclipse wanted to feel loved, even though it wasn’t real.
Eclipse egged Lunar on to kill him because Eclipse was too cowardly and afraid to do it himself.
Earth is right. Eclipse does feel abandoned. Because he was abandoned. Everyone he cared about either died or betrayed him.
In Eclipse’s death in Solar’s dimension, you can see the final moments of Eclipse and Solar Flare. When Solar flare walked off into the darkness to finally rest, Eclipse called out to him to stop him. Eclipse wanted Solar Flare to stay with him, he didn’t want to be alone again. He felt that Solar Flare knew and understood him because Solar Flare saw through his eyes.
Eclipse was abandoned.
....oh my God.. eclipse.. actually got therapy-... I'm crying-...
THE FUDGIN’ DORITO?! Also isn’t Earth taking a break? I don’t think she needs this 😭
1:12 HE SAID ‘son’ LMFAOOO they’ve seen the videos-
3:11 NAH ALL THE EARTH FANS ABOUT TO KICK ECLIPSE’S A- (the creators r really trying to get the fans to hate him)
4:59 Moon would 💀
6:42 which BY THE WAY you would’ve killed them
9:02 not important, bud. stop changing the subject
12:05 ..he makes a point tbh
13:08 OHHH GO EARTH
14:41 i should ask Lunar, Bloodmoon and Solar Flare the same question!
16:15 OH, BUDDY, YOU DID ALOT MORE THAN HURT HIS FEELINGS. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DEMONSTRATE?
17:26 yeah I can’t empathise with this guy. How do y’all do it?!
18:53 Earth was not takin that 💀
19:41 HUH?! MOON DO U STILL FEEL- oh…
"God forbid I ever speak with the other me"
Please please PLEASE let this be foreshadowing! I've wanted New and Old Moon to somehow meet for a long time. If it does happen, hopefully Sun gets to speak to him too, given the guilt he still harbors for his death. Not to mention the fact that their final conversation was the fight where Moon trapped Sun in that magic box. Plus, I imagine Sun still loves Old Moon, even if he's more aware if the ways he hurt him. Those two were the only family they had for most of their lives, after all 😔
Auntie Earth giving therapy to Moon’s son ❤❤❤❤
You know what. I fucking love this!!! As Eclipse being my fav character this was fun.❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 all I hope is that eclipse never becomes a goody two shoes!
19:42 Didn’t think Moon was gonna say that
It's sad that Moon is apologising for something he didn't even do. But i'm still not over what happened to FC, bro didn't deserve this (Bloodmoon and Stichwratch. If you do something bad to FC, i'm throwing hands‼️‼️)
@@Ijustexistfornoreason I mean Moon did admit that he did abandon him but could be the reason their gonna bring old Moon to met new Moon Eclipse apologizing is somewhat of a start might even do therapy again with Earth cuz he did somewhat open himself up to her
@@Nyx_Phantom769Old Moon abandoned Eclipse, not New Moon. But i would like to see Old Moon and New Moon to talk (New Moon would be very agressive towards Old Moon, Old Moon would be very regretful i think).
@@Ijustexistfornoreason That’s what I said they’re probably gonna have Old Moon meet New Moon
@@Nyx_Phantom769 Congrats brotha youre right
I have to admit...that was...interesting, but what I want to know is what was he trying to say before he cut himself off and just stopped talking. Did he realize something important and is now keeping it to himself? Also, I think Moon is starting to understand Eclipse a little better now. I mean if that apologizing that Moon was trying to do means anything, it means that he's starting to see that maybe Eclipse is also a victim of 'old Moon's' influences.
not solar and moon going protective big brothers mode lets be honest solar is a brother to not cousin. Earth is such a good person helping everyone while dealing with her own trauma I mean she gave therapy with stitch wrath.
20:00 I would like to imagine that eclipse stayed for a sec behind the door and heard him say that, he prob didn’t but, you never know!
WOOO!! ECLIPSE FINALLY GETS THE THERAPY HE REALLY REALLY DIDNT WANT BUT NEEDS!
It was funny seeing Moon push Eclipse in the building XD
Now this is something I'm surprised that was able to happen. But good for Eclispe. And moons really taking the parent role for KC, huh?
MOON SAYS SORRY FOR ABANDONING ECLIPSE?? LET'S GOOOOO 😭😭😭💗
FOR REAL 😭😭😭
lol I love how immediately this therapy isn’t going as easy as some would like. Moon LITERALLY PUSHING Eclipse into therapy is super funny to me ngl.😂