What "Internet Fitness" and "Trainers" Get WRONG About Lifting Weights
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- What should you focus on when lifting weights? What should you think about? The mainstream fitness industry gets this wrong all the time.
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There is something I saw in this video as well as many if not most squatting videos that confuses me. I see people squatting outside the cage. If the cage is right there and many times you even see the safeties in the cage, why not squat in the cage? I know the lifter may have spotters but spotters are not always quick enough to save someone from failing in a way that causes injury.
I agree with you. I personally always squat inside the rack with safeties. This afternoon, I did a fairly heavy warmup set with 230-lbs, and failed to get back out of the hole on the first rep, and the safeties saved my butt. Redid it again after a couple of minutes, and was able to complete it for 2 reps as a warmup.ramp up. Ultimately hit 280-lbs for 4 reps as my top set with safety arms still setup.
He addressed under the comment section in one of his videos ( Starting Strength Squat Looks HORRIFYING, Here's Why )
Here’s the copied and paste version of his explanation.
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"That concern is very understandable, and I hope my comments below prove useful for you (most of the response below comes from a previous response I made in these comments to another question, but I think you'll find it pertinent to your concern):
You'll notice that all the squats performed in this video are either performed with spotters or inside the cage using safeties (AKA "pins" or "crash bars" or sometimes "spotter arms" if using a squat stand instead of a squat rack).
This is standard practice at Testify. Our gym is set up so that on Mon/Wed/Fri (or other busy times if needed), both sides of the cage can be used - i.e., by two different lifters, so for example, one person can squat and another person can bench. In this case, since people are squatting outside of the cage, they get two spotters (Testify is the type and size of gym where everyone who trains together knows and talks to everyone else, so getting spotters is easy).
Two side spotters is an extremely safe way to squat and is also what is utilized in strengthlifting and powerlifting competitions, wherein maximal weights are attempted. As a side note, a number of the lifters you see in this video were preparing for an upcoming meet, which is another reason they were squatting outside the cage (i.e., to get additional practice under meet conditions). I would recommend never, ever using a single, back spotter - this is extremely dangerous, that back spotter is in an extremely mechanically disadvantaged position to spot, and this has resulted in a tragic event on more than one occasion.
On less busy days at Testify, people will often - but not always - squat inside the cage. We have a video that covers this (below), and everyone at Testify is taught how to set up the rack appropriately for this situation.
How to Squat Heavy ALONE! | How to Fail a Squat Safely
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Even on these days, some people will still choose to squat outside the cage as failing a squat with good spotters (and everyone at Testify is coached on how to spot) is actually better than failing with safeties as the bar only goes down an inch or two before the spotters and lifter together take the bar back up and place it back in the hooks (with all this said, missing a squat should be a rare occurrence over the course of someone's lifting career).
This might be more of an explanation than you were looking for, but I hope it was helpful."
@@strawberryyogurt0 Thank you! That was exactly what I was looking for and it made perfect sense. Even though now I understand, I will stick with using safeties. I have seen far too many failed spotter videos to ever trust people more than flip down safeties.
@@MrGrigs681 … Yep. It only takes one time. Boggles my mind when people purposely remove safeties to squat, or even better yet, un-rack and walk back 7 to 10 feet away from the safeties regardless of weight. Learning to bail a squat like what’s taught in olympic weightlifting is great, but I’ll always opt for safety arms even on my warmup or moderately heavily weight. Not taking a chance.
@MrGrigs681 and @strawberryyogurt0 - sorry for the belated response here, and @strawberryyogurt0, thanks for the copied and pasted response (you were right that that's pretty much what I was going to do as well). I thought I'd add two more items just as food for thought (and not disagreement):
1. The "peer pressure" effect of not wanting to fail a rep when spotted by those you train with can be quite powerful. I've seen it at play many times, but just as an example, we had one lifter who was supposed to squat 225 lb for 5 reps. She was squatting inside the cage, and on her first set, she only got 2 reps, failed the third rep, setting the bar on the pins. She asked what to do for the rest of the session, and I said, "Move outside the rack and get spotters" (bear in mind that I saw her while she squatted the failed set as I was coaching her and knew she could get the reps). She proceeded to get 3 sets of 5 reps. Challenging, but never in doubt.
I wrote an article about this a couple of years back (I don't think I've done a video on it yet, but perhaps one of these days):
Improve Your Squat in ONE Easy Step!
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2. With all of that said - and directly in agreement with your comments - I would only go with spotters that I know and trust. I know them all at Testify as I've coached them, so that's easy for me. These people all train together and spot each other regularly. If I'm at a public gym, I would trust nobody. I'd go with the safeties/pins every time.
As for those lifters who back up a long way away from the rack, sigh. Yep - drives me nuts as well. I made a video about it a while back wherein I parody the situation and go a bit nuts with the "walk out" process. You might enjoy it - railroad tracks were involved :-)
The Squat: Stop Doing This!
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Anyway, thanks for putting up with the long response, and thank you both for the comments as well.
@@TestifySC I had not thought about the "Peer Pressure" effect but I can see that. I have something similar in the cage working out alone at home. It is called the "I don't want to have to unload and reload the bar effect" so failing on the pins is only an option of last resort for me too. Thanks for your videos.
You are right about powerlifting. But for bodybuilding its a different story...
And this isn't a bodybuilding channel. We do strength training around here.
no for bodybuilding aswell
@@RayceJacobson I know