Off Grid Tip: Using the Chargeverter GC & 6000XP In Tandem?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Another Off Grid Tips video today. Are you wondering if it's safe to use your EG4 Chargeverter GC and generator outside to charge your 48-volt batteries while pulling from them with your inverters (like the EG4 6000XP, 12Kpv, or 18Kpv)?
🎥 Video Summary:
In the original owner's manual for the Chargeverter GC by EG4, a sticker says, "The Chargeverter is not meant to run in tandem with the inverter while powering Loads."
So is it safe to use the Chargeverter and an inverter like the EG4 12Kpv at the same time?
Stay tuned as we explore safely charging your large 48-volt batteries with the EG4 Chargeverter GC during a power outage caused by severe storms. We'll walk you through the steps to safely charge your batteries and keep your home powered up.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:30 - Our Off-Grid System
01:45 - Why use a Chargeverter GC
02:38 - Starting the Generator
02:54 - Powering on the Chargeverter GC
04:22 - Run In Tandem?
05:04 - Generator Considerations & Efficiency
05:46 - Conclusion
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Thanks for the look into your setup. I have 2 6000xp and 6 lifepower4....not running yet. Good to learn from others.
Sounds like we have the same base components. :)
I've got a full install video that may be helpful. I'm also about to put out another video that is a bit more in-depth than this one but less than the full install. You can do this!
Thanks for the chargeverter updates. I recently got my cabin set up with 1 EG4 6000xp and indoor wallmount battery set up with the chargeverter. My harbor freight 3500 genny does well enough until i get my 8 ground mount panels up and going.
Nice to see others with the same setup, keep the vids coming!
It's a rock-solid system. Glad to hear it's working well for you, too. I've been wanting to try the wallmount batteries. Maybe someday soon :)
I currently power my cabin with a NEMA SS2-50P inlet wire to my 240 electrical panel and a 50 amp Rv extension cord running to the generator. Can I wire the NEMA SS2-50P plug directly to a nema l14 30p plug that connects to the chargeveter?
Lost a lot of trees on the property but only slight damage to our shed. Over the 2 weeks of storms we ran off whole house generator for 76 hours. Made me finally order Starlink since our ISP was out even longer than the power. Not yet convinced we need to go battery backup since in 2 years these have been our only significant outages and it looks like our propane can run our generator for 7-10 days before needing a refill. If we move we will likely put in solar and battery backup systems.
That was a crazy couple of weeks. Good to hear your generator kept things going. It's a nice prep, for sure. It's tough to justify the battery backup for emergencies when you have the generator. I'm glad you ended up getting Starlink. How's it been working for you?
@@EastTexasHomestead Lets just say my cable company is loosing me as a customer this week after a 3 week trial of starlink. Sad when a satellite internet company is more stable than a cable company.
😬 my long-held position has been that if you can get cable, then you should stick with cable, but that might change based off of your experience.
I figured this would be ok. External solar charge controllers are wired parallel to the batteries to charge them while drawing from them.
I was thinking the same thing. I built out a Victron system that did it like that.
It's not just the dirty electricity from the generator. You would have to hook up the generator to All The 6000XP's! The Inverter's will switch to charge mode running all the load off the generator and charging batteries with what is left over, but there is More! You CANNOT run different generators on each 6000XP because they would not be phase matched. You would have to have a huge generator if you have large loads running. This Must Change for EG4 and others to meet the needs of the market. Put a REAL CARGER inside and stop using the inverter to charge! I have 2 ChargeVerters so I can run 2 Normal Inverter Generators Not some Huge Insane Expensive Loud Fuel Guzzling Large Generator! Oh yeah, and they put features in the ChargeVerter that you cannot use like communication that will not work if your batteries are communicating with the Inverters which is Always the case! And Generator Auto Start that inexpensive smaller Inverter Generators which don't have batteries and starters cannot use! You only need 5000k to 6000k continuous output Generator to max out the ChargeVerter and very few Inverter Generators of this size have starters and I don't want starters with additional maintenance and problems!
You have something set or wired wrong. You Did Not Even Have The Generator Breaker On so you did not have any output to the batteries! Mine does not shut down the Inverters when starting the ChargVerters. Inverters Generators can run at or near 100% just fine because the output does not become unstable as on non-inverter generators and in my experience Inverters Generators do not run as high RPM at full load so they are not working at full motor capacity at full output. I say EG4 is Wrong about the inverters shutting down, something is wrong in your setup.
I use a pair of the original yellow eg4 charger. And I don't have those issues when I switch on the chargeverter. It's operation is totally transparent and behaves just like Powers coming from solar input.
I have an old yellow one as well, and you're right. It didn't do that. I'm going to have to do some testing now.
@@EastTexasHomestead I have a pair of them. They survived a lightning strike to my solar array this afternoon while the generator was running and charging batteries. A Sungold Power 6kW inverter was also being used as a charger and it went up in smoke.
Oh man!!! I’m sorry to hear that. 😢
@@EastTexasHomestead I think I got lucky in that my SC4880 charge controller connected to that string did not die. It doesn't work anymore because there's only 10V coming in from the array now. Bypass diodes must have all shorted in the 20 panels in that array.
I'm glad it didn't take it all out. But man! what a bummer