Mary Poppins ~ Lost in Adaptation
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- PL Travers always hated what Walt Disney did to her beloved Mary Poppins (despite what Saving Mr Banks implies). Did she have a point?
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0:00 Intro
0:50 The Book
3:22 The Film
7:04 What They Didn't Change
9:21 What They Changed
15:06 What They Added
20:52 What They Left Out Altogether
26:38 Final Thoughts
28:20 What Came Next - Розваги
In Dick Van Dyke’s defense, his “dialog coach” was an Irishman. So we have an Irishman trying to teach an American how to do a Cockney accent.
Yes and no one would point it out or say "that's not right"!
Oh this makes that so much better 😂
I heard somewhere that the Irish dialog coach taught Dick wrong on purpose.
@@Nerdsammichthat would be hilarious 😂
He learnt his lesson for 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang' keeping his American accent despite his father and children having English accents!
“Mary Poppins and Pennywise are the same species, she just feeds on joy instead of fear.” - Skeletor.
Holy heck, this will live in my head rent free forever.
Pennywise literally eats people. He prefers children, and scares them because scared children "taste better" to it.
So, are you sugesting Mary Poppins causes joy in kids to also eat them?
Given that Pennywise was a manifestation of the Red (i.e. chaos in King's multiverse), it stand to reason that Mary Poppins might be an aspect of the White (i.e. order).
As such they operate in a similar manner but require opposite energy to survive.
Considering how the sequel had some sort of thing for balloons, I can't imagine why...
😂
Dick Van Dyke asked the British crew if he got the accent right. Everybody, including real working class Londoners, told him he was fine. Blame them, not Van Dyke. They lied to him.
In their defense, he was already a big star before that, and it would be intimidating telling a known star that he had it wrong. But it’s silly, so who cares.
From what I read Dick was very aware his Cockney accent was bad, so he thought "Hey, if I'm gonna be bad might as well be memorably bad"
He even felt in retrospect somebody else should have been cast but he was handpicked by Walt himself to play the role.
@@chrisheimva4857 It's telling that for 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang' he just used his normal accent despite his father and children being English!
Including Julie Andrews, who played Eliza Doolittle in 'My Fair Lady'.
@@jamesatkinsonjaI may have to rewatch 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang' because I seem to remember him with a slight accent in that one, especially during the 'Me Ol bamboo' number.
I love the behind the scenes story of how Dick Van Dyke was dressed up in his old man makeup had gone out onto the Disney studio lot and pretended to be an old man crossing the street. In front of these tourists on these trolleys. They would have to wait until he finish crossing and then when they took off after he crossed he would run alongside the trolley like a young man and freak out all the tourists lol😂😂😂.
Sounds like something from when _Jason Takes Manhattan_ was filming, not gonna lie.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 there's many interviews especially on the DVD version of Mary Poppins that Dick Van Dyke tells the story of what he did.
@richewilson6394 oh, I didn't say DVD didn't do that. It just reminded me of the shenanigans that the guy playing Jason Voorhees got up to while filming in NYC, apparently he would stand around Times Square in full costume and then just start dancing whenever people were watching because he wanted to be silly.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 oh I'm sorry I didn't get it that reference at 1st.
So that's where Gene Wilder got the idea for Willy Wonka's first appearance?
I love the idea that book Poppins is a faery in the traditional English sense - so her vanity, gaslighting etc lines up. It also tallies with the playful Shakespearean fairies and the Feywild setup in modern D&D.
That's the way i always took her, too--aloof, prickly, mysterious, powerful, and sometimes kind, but only when you didn't expect it.
I read (at least some of) the books with my mother as a child, and the film just never worked right for me; i wanted a spoonful of otherworldly, not a spoonful of sugar.
I hadn't thought of that; but Mary Poppins being one of the Fair Folk actually makes a ridiculous amount of sense.
So a witch....we got one boys😂.
@@EphemeralTao.lies😂 she uses silver.
Cool take. My understanding of English faeries was mostly colored by Enid Blyton books when I was growing up in the 60's, but I get where you are coming from. And it makes sense. But I do remember loving the movie when I was little, and being rather taken aback by the character in the books, which I didn't actually come across, if I remember right, until after we had moved to the USA when I was 10. It does give me a slightly different understanding of where Travers' inspiration might have come, though.
The fact that mary poppins appears in alan moores legue of extraordinary gentleman and it turns out she is capital G God
Will never not be funny to me
I"m sorry...WHAT???
@DDlambchop43 Even better, she fights Harry Potter who it turns out is the actual antichrist and she beats him in one move
@@troperhghar9898You watched Kyle Kallgren’s video, didn’t you?
@@gamestation2690 I read the comic
@@gamestation2690 Wait, I think I missed that one of his videos. Gotta link?
So Travers wanted a loyal adaptation with all the talking animals and mythical locations but put her foot down at animation? How were those parts supposed to be adapted? Animatronics and puppets? Even today we still struggle to effectively produce a lifelike animal animatronic, what chance did they have in 1963.
Yep, like hermagicfantastical whimsical powers would look weird in all but animation. Especially in the past . And disney has the animators already, so its a no brainer.
Apparently she thought that they were going to use REAL animals. Like, she thought that the waiters were going to be actual trained penguins. The woman had problems.
Almost like Travers was stupid!
More like she was trying to sabotage the movie.
Could be snobbery, to this day many adults still turn their noses up at animation.
"You can have a well decorated house, or four children. Not both." "Well, what if we cut out two or three kids?" "Fine."
I now want to see Mary Poppins solving murders in small New England towns.
Likewise! Though a Mary Poppins-Murder She Wrote crossover would be legendary too. I need Jessica Fletcher to just inexplicably be friends with Mary Poppins like she's just seemingly friends with everyone in that show.
@@N-Yar This is the fanfiction I didn't know I wanted.
What makes you think Jessica Fletcher isn't just another mask for Mary?
@@N-Yar But then Mary Poppins would be falsely accused of murder...like all of Jessica Fletcher's friends, family, family of friends, friends of family...
@@Gerilyn2003she has the magic bed.😂
The thing about Mary Poppins gaslighting the children into thinking none of it happened speaks to the experience of being a child -- when the adults can't quite explain what's going on in the world or in your surroundings they tend to just shut down your questions.
Like with religion or politics for adults.
I saw it as the sort of ‘if you tell anyone about it, it won’t happen again, so shut your mouth’ implied threat that my Irish family’s elder members were prone to. ‘Not talking about things’ was for more than just secrets or shames.
Speak for yourself my lad! I didn't get gaslighting parents and none of my classmates or neighbours did. I don't think gaslighting is part of a parent's job.
Maybe she wanted to keep her job? Nannies weren't all that well paid.
@@silviasanchez648 If you had been effectively gaslit...how would you know? I'm not taking sides here at all, just pondering the question. Most cult members don't know their in a cult and think it's normal behavior. Look at all the delusional people out there that think everyone else is delusional. Very few crazy people think that they are the ones that are crazy. I agree with you that I don't think I was gaslit...but.......
@@silviasanchez648
No one is talking about gaslighting here, and I'm not talking about bad parents either necessarily. It's just that there is a huge difference between how children communicate and how adults do, not to mention the huge amount of things that children either don't know yet or are actively being sheltered from by the adults in their life. Adults can't communicate properlu with children 100% of the time, and sometimes they can be hurtful without intending to because of this.
Also... not a lad my friend
I have incredibly strong feelings about the Feed the Birds song, especially since I learned that city pigeons are the descendants of birds that were deliberately domesticated by humans and then just kind of.... abandoned. The parallels between the discarded humans and the discarded pigeons, coupled with Julie's singing just... gets to me.
Yeah, pigeons really got the short end of the stick. In my region it's even illegal to feed them, though there is an argument going on that that law is unconstitutional.
Either way, I will continue to feed pigeons. They deserve better.
It was also Walt Disney’s favorite song.
Benedict Cumberbatch’s several failed attempts in doing various American accents has more then evened things up, so we can cancel the war
*Benfinail Crambumnatch
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You mean Bandicoot Concubine?
Amen
Just an FYI but Julie Andrews herself passed on a cameo because she didn't want to overshadow Emily Blunt's turn as Mary. That's why she's not in the film.
Julie Andrews has such class
I feel like it was more noticeable that she wasn't in the movie especially with the ending scene than had she popped in for a quick cameo Dick Van Dyke was able to do it in a nice way.
Also, she was playing a kaiju at the time.
@@Attmayher who?
@@Attmaytf you on about m8
My favorite version of Mary Poppins is a surreal reference from Neil Gaiman's "The Problem of Susan", where the protagonist (all but stated to be a grown up Susan Pevensie) has a dream in which she reads a posthumous published Mary Poppins story titled "Mary Poppins Brings in the Dawn", in which she takes the children on a trip to Heaven to, meet God, Jesus, and the angels. It's revealed that she was Jesus's nanny, and one of the children asks something along the lines of, "But how could she have been around before the universe was created. Didn't [God] create everything?", to which God responds, "Oh, not her. I didn't create her. She's Mary Poppins."
The first time I read that story, I recognized its plausibility and added it to my Poppins head-cannon.
That kind of makes me think of both Tom Bombadil and Aughra from The Dark Crystal, although it's more extreme than either of them
Im not trying to be antagonistic but, wasn't "the problem of Susan" about the chronicles of Narnia? I haven't been able to read it so I REALLY don't know. Please don't @ttack me.
@@spyder4201 Susan Pevensie is the name of the character in the Chronicles of Narnia.
@@spyder4201 it is. The main character is strongly implied to be either a grown up Susan Pevensie from Chronicles of Narnia or possibly someone who inspired or lived out the story.
The Mary Poppins inclusion can seem odd, but specifically putting in as a popular fictional character who's shown to have a friendly and longstanding relationship with God contrasts with the protagonists relationship, as the final thing Susan does in the books is be the sole survivor of a train crash that kills the rest of her family, because she doesn't get to go to heaven.
Fun fact: The same filmmakers followed up Mary Poppins with the 70's film Bedknobs and Broomsticks, which starred Angela Lansbury. One of the songs, The Beautiful Briny Sea, was actually written for Mary Poppins, but didn't make the final cut when they excluded adding an undersea bit, but they reused that concept for Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
Its also worth mentioning that thanks to Travis being so unbearable at the start we got Bedknobs and Broomsticks, a movie I absolutely ADORE and will always remember fondly of it as my first experience of Angela Lansbury’s acting.
Fun Fact: Many of the nannies in the large queue of applicants for the job at the start of the movie were actually men in drag.
that's funny
I mean good for them
@@SoulSlugArts nah it's the time period
Considering the battering the nanny's receiving blowing away, that's good. Men can take a lot more physical abuse and the filming process was likely brutal.
I'm not sure I like what that would have been implying but good on them, nice to see drag outside of pantos.
I’ve also read all the Mary Poppins books, and I can confidently co-sign your assessment that the “Mary Poppins is saving her father” trope can’t be found anywhere in Travers’s work! 💯
Yeah, as someone who read the books as a child and am ambivalent towards the film, I saw the trailer to Saving Mr Banks and thought, what kind of self-congratulatory Disney nonsense is this? The father is barely in the books.
Yup. I revisited the first book a couple years before Mary Poppins Returns and was scratching my head over how non-existant Mr. Banks was.
that was the point... the dad is pretty absentee and missing out on his kids lives.
@@azadalamiqand that was normal for the time too, it wasn't up to him to raise his children. It was up to his wife and the nannies. 😅
I think the whole "Mary saved the dad" relates only to the Disney version of the story
According to Richard Sherman, they made Mrs. Banks a suffragette and wrote “Sister Suffragette” at Walt’s request in an effort to get Glynis Johns to take the role.
Although it was invented for the movie, I love the idea that George Banks, who sings a song about how well-ordered his life is, has no clue about how his wife is spending her afternoons.
Listening to you talk about how Mary Poppins acts in the books made me think and if she is a fairy pretending to be human but because she is a magical creature she cannot escape the magic that accompanies her wherever she goes, the best she can do is deny the existence of any magic even if it is right in front of her.
How about that, she's more like Susan Sto helit than I thought.
Added a like just because of the intro! Hearing Mary Poppins say "Mutha f***ah" just MADE MY DAY!!
I chose the wrong moment to be cooking. I was HOWLING!
Karen Dotrice has gone on record saying that Julie Andrews swore like a sailor between takes, and I have to imagine she was still in costume for at least some of that.
@@Talisguy I firmly believe it. But I'd also pay to hear it. Hearing Miss Prim and Proper with a sailor's mouth would be priceless
@@Talisguy Kiera Knightley has the same kind of reputation on set too apparently!
@@Talisguy Have you seen her in Blake Edwards' "S.O.B." (1981)? She had a lot of fun trashing her Goody Two-Shoes image.
From what I remember, Julie Andrews turned down the cameo because she didn't want to overshadow Emily Blunt's performance. That being said, I can see Lansbury KINDA working for that "passing the torch" moment if you factor in a connection to Bedknobs and Broomsticks. Both Mary Poppins and Ms. Price were magical women in early 20th century England, tasked with looking after some children and travel to a world inhabited by cartoons with said children. Obviously the balloon lady couldn't be Ms. Price but spiritually, I can kinda see it.
In fact they did originally offer the role of Ms. Price to Julie Andrews which she declined. However she did eventually change her mind but by it was too late and Angela Lansbury signed on. But Julie Andrews congratulated her and knew she was gonna be excellent
Also starring alongside David Tomlinson no less. It really is the second best you could do.
I also see it as a maybe clumsy attempt to channel a reference to Glynnis Johns. I will admit to having momentarily confused the two once or twice in more recent years.
Also, have a read of the Wikipedia page for Bedknobs. Turns out there's a much stronger connection between the two films than I thought! Disney started on Bedknobs because they didn't have the rights to Poppins, then shelved it while they worked on Poppins because of how similar they were, only to go back and finish Bedknobs later.
Both Mary Poppins and Bedknobs And Broomsticks have the same director, Robert Stevenson
I don’t know, I’m also British and I bloomin’ love Dick Van Dyke’s accent in this picture. It just charms me.
On Q.I. they said he was once offered Bond and he had to remind them about his Cockney in the movie
My inner voice read that with the Bert accent
I live near PL Travers' birthplace and the town is basically all Mary Poppins themed, they even have crossing lights shaped like her and of course a Mary Poppins festival every year. It's pretty cool.
They also have the world's biggest steampunk festival oh and the town is called Maryborough which is a total coincidence.
Marybough really milks the whole Marry poppins thang
About picturing book characters in one's head, while I don't default to picturing everyone as a cartoon, I notice that sometimes I end up picturing certain characters in a more "cartoonish" way if the author's description of their appearance goes out of its way to exaggerate a certain aspect, like them having enormous ears or an ice-cold, piercing stare.
Also, props for bringing up the Soviet movie! It's the only version of the story I've actually experienced, and while I don't really remember many specifics of its plot most of its songs still live rent-free in my head.
If the book is based on something with an animated tie-in (I.e. a story based on a Disney movie or something Star Wars related), or if the main characters are talking animals or magical creatures, I’ll default to an animated playback in my head.
I haven't seen the Soviet Mary Poppins movie, but the Soviet Sherlock Holmes adaptations were genuinely the best ones I've seen. Really hoping for a Lost In Adaptation on those
I did this with the harry potter books as a kid. I had stop motion characters in mind, similar to the ones in paranorman
I picture most book scenes as painterly or with an animated style. And yeah, if they emphasize a certain character trait, they become full cartoons.
Like, I was reading a book where the author couldn’t stop describing how big a character was and his wavy red hair. So from then on he became Fergus (Merida’s dad) from _Brave_ any time I tried to picture him.
That’s not at all what the character was supposed to look (or act) like, but because of the emphasis on him being so big and having wavy red hair, it stuck in my mind.
One character I always saw as an animated character is Gilderoy Lockhart or Glitterik Smørhår (literally Glittery Butter hair) as he is known as in the danish books. An animated character with literally glittering butter coloured hair all the way down to his lower back. But a part of it might be that one of my absolute favourite movies growing up was “Bedknobs and Broomsticks”
No word of lie, when I was a kid I didn't realized that Bert and the old banker were played by dick van dyke. I didn't see him in the old banker at all and my mom told me and I was convince she was lying to me.
Its the first time I ever watched the credits in a movie cause I wanted to prove her wrong. Turns out I had to eat some humble pie that night but it was one of those first moments an actor surprised me in a role.
I was today years old when I found out about this double role. There's always something new to learn about the classics!
If you'd been exposed to a bit more Dick Van Dyke as a kid, it wouldn't have been a surprise. He did that kind of stuff regularly in his shows and some films. He pioneer the bit that later actors like Peter Sellers, Steve Martin, and Eddie Murphy went to town with.
@@chrisblake4198 Peter Sellers did it best, though.
@@jamespryor5967 no lies detected
If it makes you feel better, the actual kids in the movie didn't know that was Dick Van Dyke as the banker either! I saw an interview once with the girl who played Jane once she'd grown up, talking about how terrified they were of the banker guy, only learning after filming was done that it was just their friend Dick all along. xD I think he didn't want them to know or something, and they were using a different name for him on set, but I can't remember now.
Cuddling Sir Terry when asking for algorythm-supporting actions is shameless.
It 100% worked. 😆
I have an enormous fondness for the movie because it gave me one of my last good memories of my grandmother. Dementia hit her hard and drained the life out of her, but in the last few weeks before we finally had to check her into an assisted living facility, Mom had the movie playing on Disney+. And both of us were floored to hear her actually managing to sing along to "Feed the Birds" - not well, not at that point, but she clearly remembered the movie and the words. The realization that she remembered the movie and all the times we'd watched it in the past was very special to me.
None of this is relevant to the video, but it did remind me of that so take the Algorithm Engagement anyway.
Must be a British Empire thing to make something very whimsical but be an absolute stick in the mud grouch in real life....or a sociopath in Roald Dahl's case.
The exception being Terry Pratchett. Who was (in reality) 3 genius potatoes stacked on top of each other, wearing a big hat and a false beard.
The first time I read Dahl's comments on Jewish people I was literally making a 😟 face
To be fair, Hayao Miyazaki is also a well known cynical grouch
@@joshuaescopete Terry Pratchett is proof of concept that for every 100 million cynical British subjects are born, there's one who's the rejection of that cynicism
@@leow3696 yeeaaaahhhh....he was...off.
I find it weird how in Saving Mr. Banks, Travers picked up a Winnie the Pooh doll and said “Poor A. A. Milne,” when Disney had only just gotten the rights to adapt Pooh the year the movie was set. It would have been better if it was a doll of a character from a British book that Disney had already adapted, like Alice in Wonderland or Peter Pan, and she said “Poor Lewis Carroll,” or “Poor J. M. Barrie.”
Its not like Saving Mr. Banks is all that concerned with real history, I think they went with Winnie the Pooh as it got the point across better.
The in-house mentality was probably just brand think: While the others would make mosre sense, Pooh is one of Disney's strongest, being almost up there with the classical stars (Mickey, Donald etc.) in terms of sales and (for lack of a better word) notiriety.
@@Azmodeus87fame, recognition, popularity, prestige, eminence
It's fairly well known that A.A. Milne also resented being known as "the Winnie the Pooh writer" when he wanted to be a Serious Writer for Grown-Ups. His other work is fine, but Pooh really is his best known. I think they used that to connect with Travers' own reluctance.
But actually it tracks- she’s saying it in a “you poor bastard, you have no idea what you’re in for” sort of way
But so much is faked it doesn’t matter.
In my home country, Hungary, Mary Poppins is still a book first. I didn't even know that it had a movie version until I was an adult. Our mother read it to us as a bedtime story, and a famous children's singer of our childhood wrote a song about the books that I still know by heart.
I would like to hear the song, is it on youtube?
Personally I'm glad they made all those changes in the movie. The book Mary Poppins sounds awful and traumatising, and I can't imagine why would anyone want to see her come back unless they suffer Stockholm Syndrome.
Travers’ father wasn’t a good father and died from drink, but worse, her mother was deeply suicidal and constantly on the verge, and would leave Travers in charge of her siblings when she’d go odd intending to drown herself in a river. Travers was fucked up, but so was her childhood. Apparently Mary, strict as she was, represented stability to Travers, and the guidance that she herself didn’t have as a child. That’s why preserving what we see as Mary being mean meant so much to her. Too much “guidance” was great to someone who had none.
@@noelletakesthesky3977 Maybe, but that's irrelevant to the story. The movie Mary Poppins is an odd but likeable character while the book Mary Poppins is nightmare stuff.
Don't get me wrong, I understand your point. I just don't think it changes the fact the changes were for the best.
@@noelletakesthesky3977 Mary P. is said to be based on Travers' great aunt who sometimes came in to pick up the pieces. She brought order & stability to the otherwise chaotic family.
She reminds me of Nanny McPhee, and her children eventually did become fond of her
@@Justice237 I always thought that Nanny McPhee was a Mary Poppins ripoff.
Mrs Cory snapping off her fingers and giving them to the children to eat creeped me out as a kid. I don't care they were gingerbread. A woman snaps her fingers off and fed them to children
You know, for kids!
That’s pretty metal
Suggestion, do not ever watch Anpanman....
That part was so gross! And Mrs. Cory was such a mean lady, too.
what youve never heard of ladyfingers lol
That intro was gold. That scream and then the "Mutha F***kah" gave me a much needed smile.
Being Russian I watched soviet version of Mary Poppins mary times since childhood and absolutely love it! It even has a very nice message about how adults often forget what it's like to be children and that this connection with your inner child is very important to maintain. Also the songs are fire and you can't deny that the lead actress looks like Rachel McAdams haha
"Feed the Birds", the song by the bird woman selling seeds, is worth everything it took to make that movie. It turns out that was Disney's favorite song, too.
So occasionally the man had good taste.
It's definitely my favorite moment in the entire thing, always has been since I was tiny, and it's such a haunting song.
I just love it.
I wonder if the King Edward line was a subtle indicator that Mr Bank's comfortable world would be disrupted and changed.
Personally I think it was just because Walt Disney was SUPER nostalgic for the early 1900's the way that people today are nostalgic for the eighties. If you go back and rewatch the live action movies made by the studio when he was alive, a great many of them are set in that time period.
Nice Granny Weatherwax reference with the "'I ATE'NT DEAD'"
And cuddling Sir Terry in the outro, as is appropriate, too!
Omgg, as someone growing up in the soviet dominated cultural space of late 90s Eastern Europe, I'm so glad you mentioned the 1986 adaptation. It was the only one I was familiar with during childhood. Watching it felt like a fever dream and it still feels like a fever dream remembering it today. I can only see the Disney version through its lens till this day
Poor David Tomlinson had such a heartbreaking personal life. I hope he's flying a kite in heaven with his loved ones.
The first movie is untouchable levels of gold in my mind because I saw it LONG before I read any of the books. That and the fact that anything Julie Andrews touches turns to gold, duh. I have a soft spot for the second one, though, the 2018 one, because I was fresh out of a VERY long hospital stay, and I was so tired and so skinny and so not-myself that "Lovely London Sky' actually made me cry like, "Oh my God, I can come back to life again." I lost FOURTEEN POUNDS in just over a month, and since I'm tiny anyway, it wasn't pleasant. That was one of my worse hospital stays, I have to admit. So coming out of there and doing something pleasant and normal felt really good, though, yes, it has the same story beats as the first one with a poorer execution. I do get that.
Well, the thing is, the movie has many of the same story beats as the previous one...because the first sequel book, Mary Poppins Comes Back, has almost all the same story beats as the first novel! (A chapter where one of Mary's relatives has a strange affliction, a chapter where Mary tells the children a just-so fairy tale, a chapter where one of the children misbehaves dreadfully and is scared out of their wits as punishment, a chapter where a baby ponders its greater connection to the universe...)
But I do love the sequel. Say whatever you want, but for those of us who grew up loving the first one, that first glimpse of Cherry Tree Lane, with the underscoring quoting "The Life I Lead"...it was like seeing an old friend for the first time in years.
I wonder if that whole "Mary Poppins is here for the dad, not the children" thing is Travers ironically mixing up her own story with the Disney film she loathed because, while not in the book, it's basically the whole arc of the film.
Also, personally, I always liked the fan theory that Bert is the other son of the bank director, Mr. Dobbs, and that Mary was once his nanny too, just that she didn't manage to sway him back then, which is why she's only considered "practically perfect" in every way.
the word use for practically... is that MP is very practical... not the more slang used.
Dom:"I mean..whats next is Mary Poppins going to move to a seaside town and solve crimes?"
some disney exc.: "YOU FOOL! We now know what to do for mary poppins 3!! she'll go to a sea side town and solve crimes!!"
Amazing work, Dom!!!
Animal crimes , she should solve animal crimes to use the whimsy. And some rando lonely kid becomes her assistent?!
@@marocat4749 i can see that. and the kid would have a cocney accent carrying the tradition forward.
As if that wouldn't be effing based.
@@NeutralDrow indeed,
Baby marry popping is just the best ‘spit mother fucking spot!’😂😂
Dom as Mary Poppins is something I never thought I needed, until now.
Soooo fun fact: I actually met and knew one of the twins that got separated. He was one of the professors we had in my study abroad program 12 years ago. Eccentric guy. He wrote spy novels
@@AttmayI mean tbh both Walt and PL sounds like lousy people so they DEFINITELY deserved each other
how interesting! One can only hope they were good
@@thewingedporpoise they didn’t meet till they were MUCH older. Look up Charles Hone and add PL Travers in google to learn the tale.
Sooo eccentricities runs in her family, blood related, or not😮?
@@marshawargo7238 yup.
Animated characters in the style of Rankin/Bass is just what my imagination looks like.
So Angela Lansbury thing makes sense if you realize that if the creators of My Fair Lady had cast Juile Andrews who was the lead in the stage musical then Mary Poppins would have been played by Angela Lansbury. Another fun fact is that if they couldn't make Mary Poppins they would have done Bedknobs and Broom Sticks during that time.
The song Beautiful Briny Sea in Bedknobs was originally written for Mary Poppins, so another connection.
Most of the time, when I read a book for the first time, the characters are animated in my head, regardless of whether or not they have an animated adaptation or any adaptation at all. Creating realistic features from scratch is a lot more difficult, for whatever reason. They don't necessarily look like cartoons, but they don't exactly look fully like a real person, either. I never realized that this was odd.
It sounds like book MP knew a little thing about job security
Can’t be a nanny to a family who doesn’t need one and she made sure they ALWAYS needed one
To be fair, for the upper middle and upper classes, nanny would have been a secure position until the children went to school.
I have read a claimed-to-be-true story about parents who doted on one of their twin daughters and pretty much ignored the other. The parents had tried to give up the one twin for adoption, but the couple couldn't bring themselves to separate twin sisters. The ignored twin, now adult, wishes that the couple HAD adopted her because then she could have been reared by parents who cherished her rather than parents who thought of every dollar spent on her being a dollar stolen from her twin. That said, Travers forbidding the twins from seeing each other was disgusting.
apparently the reason juile andrews didn't cameo in the movie was because she knew people would be looking for her and talking about it. she wanted emily to have her time to shine, and imo she did a wonderful job. i loved the movie and mary poppins is one of my favorite disney films :'3 when i watched the opening i was hit by the nostalgia and cried :'3 i actually see it as underrated because no one ever talks about it Dx
Oh my god, that Star Wars meme was PERFECTLY placed 😂😂😂
I've been getting and extra kick out of seeing that meme ever since I learned that Retro Recipes was Haydensen's stand in for that scene. If you're into bad puns and really old game tech, I highly recommend.
That intro was glorious, thank you for making my day.
I know the subconcious isn't linear, but I will argue that Mr Bates isn't her dad....Mary Poppins is.
Wildly different personalities when alone or in front of others,
Gaslights and threatens the kids to stay quiet about what happens behind closed doors.
Routinely abandons the kids, leaving them devastated but doesn't appear to care.
Has no emotional availability and blames others for her faults.
Prefers superficial gains over long-term connections (vanity)
Enjoys punishment and doles it out often, even for telling the truth and other 'good' things kids should be doing.
So MP was her wish fulfillment and way of sugarcoating her childhood?
Remember that time MP snuck into my room and stole my gold (wrappers)? She wasn't stealing! She was putting them back in the sky!
Remember how she always runs away leaving us traumatised? It's fine, she always comes back!
No wonder she fought so hard with Disney. The book series was just her trauma diaries with illustrations.
Love this interpretation, it makes an awful lot of sense! Esp. the way she wrote the repeated abandonment of the kids...
It's interesting finding out just how many authors of beloved children's books are/were really pretty nasty people IRL. I guess perhaps a lot of them worked out their own early traumas and warping through their writing?? 🤷🏻♀️
Mary Poppins is my favorite film. Full stop. The special effects, the animation, the cast, the songs, everything adding up to the most whimsical movie that makes me grin the entire run time. The soundtrack tells the story on its own, and the pacing is great. Mary Poppins is strict and stern, makes sure the children learn real lessons, ettiquette, etc, but still facilitates those fun situations that make all the strictness worth it. And Julie Andrews portrays her perfectly, prim and proper while knowing how to express the subtle brand of whimsy that the character exudes, especially in her singing voice. Its crazy to think this was her first big screen role, with THE SOUND OF MUSIC being her second.
The main lesson being primarily for the father (played fantastically by David Tomlison) makes the message age better and better.
Ultimately, I think its the lesson that really speaks to me. The world is tough, being an adult is hard, and that's why its so important to hold on to that child-like wonder...ESPECIALLY when you have children of your own. I think that lesson will always be important, and its delivered in such a fun and wonderful way. This is also one of my Dad's favorite movies, and, upon growing up, it makes perfect sense why. Its meaningful to both of us.
Also interesting to note: Feed the Birds was Walt's favorite song, and he would often ask the Sherman brothers to play it; a beautiful simple song about being kind was his favorite song, and that too, has always stuck with me.
I think its another situation like the Shining: being an unfaithful adaptation can be worth it if you make one hell of a film.
I love thinking about this movie, can you tell? ;)
I'm a die hard animation fan, so yeah, I tend to imagine characters as animated in my head when reading books for the first time. The style is an interesting blend of Disney, Ralph Bakshi, and Don Bluth, usually shifting from one to the other depending on the context and how silly, mature, or surreal the author describes the scene/characcters. I find it helps make the image in my head more unique than imagining the character as a real person or actor.
My dad was an animator. There are two kinds of people in animation who knew Walt Disney, those who admitted they despised the man (my dad included), and those afraid to admit they despised him. He was a truly despicable person.
It sucks that such a pure trash human being made movies that are definitive in most people's childhoods and he (and his descendants) were able to use that popularity to make himself seem like this wonderful, loving man that just wanted to entertain children.
@@Attmay I think you need to touch grass.
Floyd Norman (still alive) worked for Walt and liked him.
@@Attmay You really think this is the one movie that steered Disney wrong? lol The dude made turned friends into enemies like a craftsman, and if the dictionary put his picture next to betrayal no one who knew him would call it a printing mistake.
But it's important to remember, for all his faults, Walt Disney was still just a human being, nothing more, nothing less.
I’ve got a suggestion for a lost in adaptation episode; the Berlin novels / cabaret. Feel like you’d do a great job with this one. This Mary popping video is a 10/10, love this channel
Disney and writers were right to shed those chapters. Sticking to the book would have rendered it incomprehensible.
Three years ago I read a fantasy YA series called Throne of Glass, and in my head, it all WAS animated. No realistic humans, it was similar to the art style in the Castlevania Netflix series. Honestly, it's a lot of fun. I did half of the same for the later A Song Of Ice And Fire books.
Same here. Throne of Glass, the Lunar Chronicles, Percy Jackson and The Frog Princess were all animated in my mind.
ASOIAF for me, and that was even after I watched the TV series season 1
Yeah, that comes down to your inner eye's ability. Everyone has a different level that they can visualize.
I love that the movie Saving Mr. Banks was of course made by Disney and portrayed Travers as (eventually) being a huge fan of the film adaptation when in actuality she hated it
Did they ever portrayed Travers as a huge fan? O.o I remember her being more like 'Eh, it's fine i guess, I'm gonna write my book now' (after her huge emotional outburst of course, which had more to do with story about father and children, that she could relate to, then enjoyment of the movie)
I agree to all your conclusive final thoughts despite of one: The fact that Angela Lansbury appears in _Mary Poppins Returns_ is not as weird as you put it. There was another British children‘s book (or rather: a two book series) by Mary Norton, titled _The Magic Bedknob_ and _Bonfires and Broomsticks._ When Disney first couldn‘t acquire the rights to _Poppins,_ Disney opted for Norton‘s books instead - but halted production when he got _Poppins_ licensed. However, the adaptation of the two books, titled _Bedknobs and Broomsticks,_ was still made and released in 1971, starring Angela Lansbury in the leading role of Eglantine Price. Granted, Ms. Price is not a nanny but the temporary carer for three orphans evacuated from London during the Blitz. Also, she is not as mystical and inexplicable as Mary Poppins - on the contrary, she openly admits that she tries to learn witchcraft through a correspondence school in order to magically help the British war efforts. It is a wild premise.
So, given that both characters are caring for children using magical means, it seems not as outlandish to have Dame Angela provide a cameo in the Poppins sequel - one might even see it as a crossover between the two movies/universes (though an unofficial one). I also agree that a cameo by Dame Julie would have been more appropriate and definitely in character, but I just had to mention this as a small side note…
I think it was just a joke
A friend of mine looked after PL Travers in her final years. Apparently she was not very nice.
Having grown up in the animated age, i imagined all the fantasy parts of "last of the very great wangdoodle" as real life characters in an animated world backdrop
As in…Julie Andrews’ book?
the person you need is Nanny McPhee!
Who on earth is this
@@robertcooper4th259 someone with taste.
Nanny McPhee is not in our books.
Nanny McPhee is not in ANYONE’S books.
@@adrianporter5749 I mean nanny mcPhee not the commenter
@@robertcooper4th259 well shes there for the entire family! and she leaves when they no longer need her
The reason Angela Lansbury is such a genius addition to the sequel is because she adds a whole nother dimension to the theme of "Gaslighting" that the sequel does so well... You see, Angela Lansbury was IN THE MOVIE "GASLIGHT!"
Literally making money? He’s not a banker as you said, but, nor is he working for the Mint - he’s a counterfeiter! That would be way more interesting!
I never got the vibe that the whole Votes for Women thing was mainly played for laughs in the movie. The song at the beginning wasn't particularly comedic (but still pretty catchy) and it was honestly quite nice to see all those sweeps shout "votes for women" and march with her in the step-in-time song.
She didn't feel like a characture of the movement since that wasn't all her character was about. Sure it didn't go into the darker parts of the movement but it's Disney. For little me it was actually an introduction to it and felt quite empowering
I agree, especially how lovely the moment felt with the chimney sweeps in it.
Thank you for sharing that history. I'd be lying if I said it changes my own opinion and fondness of the film, but I do appreciate your input in this discussion @@Attmay
Anda comment was that it was inserted to have the actress actually take the job.
Not the purest motives, but not bad.
Am I reading too much into it if to me it feels like she 'gives up' her suffragette cause at the end when the family unit is restored and she gives the kids her sash to use as a kite tail?
@@richardhollis3783 never got that vibe either 🤔 It was clearly very important to her and she never had a moment like Mister Banks did where she pondered her roll in her childrens' lives. But I do think it's an acknowledgement that her family are just as important to her as the cause is and that there's room to focus on both.
Now Dom, atleast Julie Andrews got to play a giant psychic squid monster in Aquaman. A movie that came out the same week as Mary Poppins returns
For the record, I usually imagine animated characters whenever I’m reading a book with animals as the protagonist. They’re just more expressive that way.
was once running a tabletop game and had a seriously shitty week (therefore having NO time/energy to prep for that week's session) and basically just wrapped Mary Poppins up in set dressing and vampirism,,,, obviously my players had a great time
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My English Grandmother loved Mary Poppins a lot and was so happy when my sister did the play in high school, I miss her and wish I could've shown her this video before her passing in November. Thanks Dom for giving me a bit of her back today.
If you thought Mary Poppins (the book) was weird you _absolutely_ need to do an episode on Charles Kingsley's horrifying allegorical Christian fever dream, _The Water Babies._ It was adapted rather loosely in 1978 into a animated/live action musical, and then adapted right back again into a book by Michael Robson. Fun fact: Charles Kingsley invented the word 'cuddly'.
Doesn't he spend about a third of the book complaining about Irish people?
As a kid I read a lot of pre-modern & early modern children's books and honestly, a LOT of them really are pretty insane?! 😵💫 Most of the 'supernatural' characters like MP, Peter Pan etc always seem to read kinda like sociopaths when revisited as an adult too. I don't know how much of this persistent weirdness is a product of the time, and how much is a built-in feature of 'whimsical' writing for kids.? Even much more modern examples like Roald Dahl's books seem to share those same characteristics. Stories like Peter Pan or the Water Babies are frequently reinterpreted as horror by contemporary short story authors, and tbh, it's not that much of a stretch!!
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 I've always thought that those types of books were largely adult authors trying to mimic the imaginary worlds of children, with magical characters like Peter Pan and Mary Poppins being the "imaginary friend". The, well, slightly sociopathic part is because young children don’t exactly excell in empathy.
But they're also usually pretty didactic, aren’t they? Though the morals are usually closer to "listen to your parents and wash behind your ears" than "be kind to others".
@@yltraviole That's a cool theory! I wonder if they were writing from any of their own childhood memories, or observation of kids they knew, or just what they imagined might appeal? (Varies by author probably).
I think the mix of didacticism and amorality is one of the things that makes the older books so weird to read? 🤔 The author will take a paragraph out from the story to straight-up lecture the supposed child reader about doing as they're told and telling the truth, then go straight back to describing the adventures of their supposed hero character who steals, lies & gaslights....
One could potentially posit characters like Pan or Poppins are meant as antiheros, with the author writing them to appeal to children's more chaotic or rule-breaking instincts? Often these authors don't even seem to really be aware of just how dodgy their character is being, which undermines that a bit. But others in their "moral lesson" sections straight-up give bad advice or draw ridiculous conclusions on purpose, which could support it, I guess.
Angela Lansbury starred in Bedknobs and Broomsticks with David Tomlinson - so there's a strong link there
I picture animated events in books quite a lot, but part of that is probably because I am a lifelong cartoonist and spend an incredible amount of time in that headspace as a result.
How the hell am I am Australian and never learned until literally right now that the author was Australian and only moved to the UK at 25??
Edit: unfortunately, the author's casual racism is a pretty unsurprising trait of white Queenslanders of her class and time period...
Unfortunately yes
I grew up in the same town she was born in, Maryborough. The whole town is a cesspit and the oldies act strangely like Ms Travers to this day.
I think we could have a little understanding for the racism of people who lived a hundred years ago. We're all a product of our time. If someone is racist now, then sure, rip into them, but in the 1930s, like, come on, man. Have a little perspective.
Wonder if he will do an episode on Bedknobs and Broomsticks considering that it was the second choice for Disney in case they couldn’t get the rights to Poppins and probably the reason why they had the role in Mary Poppins Returns given to Angela Lansbury when it was obviously made for Julia Andrews. Probably didn’t help that Aquaman was out the same time as the film.
"Has anyone ever imagined animated characters when reading a book for the first time?" The Outsiders is one of my favorite books that I read back in middle school. The first time I read it, I imagined the characters to look just like my favorite anime characters at the time. As though the anime characters were playing as actors for the story in my head.
I actually did that with a lot of the books I was forced to read in school that I ended up liking. Around the world in 80 days was played by the cast of Pokemon and the various Yu GI Oh series in my imagination. Mary Shelly's 'Frankenstein' was portrayed by the characters from Chobbits and Shaman King.
I thought that imagining a book in animation as you experience the story for the first time was normal, but now as I'm describing my experiences? Yeah, it does sound really weird.
I often find myself picturing an animated story in my head when I read a book. I think there needs to be more animated adaptations of books and not just of children's books either.
Regarding the question at the end of what was changed, Dom- Yes, absolutely. Depending on the book, it is not uncommon in the least for me to picture scenes from books as animated in my head.
It often depends on the genre and the cover art. If a work has a particularly cool cover style, I will find myself matching it in my mental images, and those can have a painted aesthetic or a cartoony one or whatever.
Sometimes, if a character matches the physical description of another character I know from a cartoon or comic or whatever, I mentally “cast” the character in that role. When I read Mistborn, it was Cassandra Cain from Batman in a mistcloak “playing” Vin the whole time.
I’m a big animation sucker, I picture a lot of stuff as animation. Just putting it out there.
@@Attmayhave you got nothing to do love? You are all over this comment thread lol but to your point, if bad… most STOP reading or watching. Still others are completionists and will power through regardless of quality. For me, the worse the quality the more likely I am going to animate the scenarios in my head bc it takes it from boring or dismal to funny and entertaining. That’s my experience anyway
I think Angela Lansbury makes sense as the next best option to Julie Andrews, when you consider that she had the Mary Poppins-es que role in BEDKNOBS AND BROOMSTICKS, which was something of an alternative for Mary Poppins as far as Disney was concerned. They played with it when it looked like they couldn’t to Mary Poppins, and so had it in reserve. It’s not a coincidence they made such a similar film.
Fun fact: Mrs. Correy and her two daughters (Fannie and Annie) from the first Mary Poppins book have a cameo appearance in the film as well! Fannie and Annie are the two tall women in pink and blue that stand behind the old woman (Mrs. Correy) Burt compliments when he’s performing as a one-man band in the beginning. Mrs. Persimmon, another character in the series, appears as well.
24:17 “spit mother-effing SPOT” got me 😂
I picture animated things when reading because its prettier then real life. and things like talking animals looks natural in such a world while in live action it is scary
Can't wait for you to review the next Disney movie adaptation about a magical woman who takes children under her care, with the same production team:
BEDKNOBS AND BROOMSTICKS
That's gonna be an "In Name Only".
Oh my childhood...
It was a book too I vaguely remember reading it when I was a kid.
Fun fact: I only ever imagine animated characters in my mind whenever I read anything. I have a really hard time visualising realistic things even if I’ve seen them before 😂
My friends and I LOVED the Mary Poppins Timelord theory when we were in school!!!
From what I've heard, Bad Tuesday and Full Moon were originally going to be adapted to the movie, but were left out, even after the Sherman brothers wrote songs for them.
I will die on the hill that Julie Andrews should have had a cameo in the reflection of the balloon Mary Poppins gets given at the end. That the reflection goes from Emily Blunt to Julie Andrews, she winks and Blunt winks back
omg, I'm so happy you mentioned Soviet version! that's the version (along with the books) that I grew up on and it still holds a soft spot in my heart :D
I occasionally imagine more fantastical things as animated. Does a dragon talking really look good with a realistic style or puppeteering?
if the puppetry came from the Henson Creature Shop, it's doable. realistic just instantly drops into the uncanny valley
That talk of fully sapient babies makes me want to write a fanfic crossover between Mary Poppins and Dune.
I do actually often picture characters as animated or in a cartoony/illustrated style when I'm reading. Sometimes it'll shift into being more realistic; it really depends on the specific story and what style suits it.
If Emily Blunt started solving mysteries in a small New England town, I'd watch. Dammit Dom, you just unintentionally pitched a hit show I know will never get made but now I need.
A spoonful of sugar won't help every medicine go down!
I should know!
You should have some water instead :) makes pills easier to swallow
Sugar just grates your throat a bit, making it feel a bit like your gagging, from my very limited experience of once sucking on a sugarcube
@@JDM-is-my-nameTrust me, water is a lot easier for me.
@@claytonrios1 yup yup
And there are no penguins at the North Pole 11:52 talking or otherwise. There were a few introduced to the arctic in 1936 but they had died out or were eaten by predators by 1949.
Fun fact: Robert Sherman was racking his brains for a proverb-like saying he could use as a hook for Mary's first song. In the middle of all this, his son came home from school and told him about the polio vaccine he'd gotten at school that day...the new kind that they gave on a sugar cube. Inspiration struck him then and there. "Just...a...spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down..."
I was about to make mention of this bit at 23:32 just being Baby Geniuses 1930s edition, but you made the joke just as I was writing my comment.
With Angela Lansbury, it makes sense because he was in the Mary Poppins attempted successor movie bedknobs and broomsticks, which I would love to see a video on if you haven't done it already
So happy you touched on admiral Boom and Mr Binnacle being a couple . THEY ARE XD Two elderly men that live together and roleplay as captain and his first mate on a ship?
I find it easier to see the world built and see the characters if animated in my head.