@@GriftCo not even in the least bit. Rivets hold up to the constant flex of a boat. Welds DONT. When a weld breaks you have to redo the entire length of weld. When a rivet goes bad you replace the rivet. That just shows how much you know.
@@ngirardo86, thank you for your input! Whilst I usually try to avoid reacting to deliberately inflammatory comments, you’ve somehow managed to strike a nerve but also I feel I could share some context that others may find valuable. Whilst I am not a professional boat builder (not something I’ve ever claimed to be) I do know a “bit” about design and engineering. Specifically working in the off-road automotive space for going on 8 years, with many of my designs that are entirely riveted earning tens of millions of dollars revenue. With that in mind it may be obvious I would be the first to praise the value of rivets, after all I have a reputation on this channel for being a diehard lover of rivet-nuts as well. You might want to turn your attention to the rear deck build video I did which was entirely constructed of rivets and connectors, no welding to be seen. Rivets have their place, and in this video I still use them. However not every joint could be made with rivets without making other compromises to the design; whether that’s material, aesthetics, function, labour/ effort etc etc. Whilst your comment does ring true, that rivets have an innate ability to flex, I could share with you my professional experience with the failure of rivets due to flex and fatigue of materials. Feel free to message me if you’d like to see how “little I know”. Lastly, I’d like to point out something you’ve obviously overlooked. This is a personal project, My own boat made in my own shed. I had a personal goal of learning how to TIG weld aluminium and what better way than on my own boat. If a weld fails, I get to fix it! Would you like to know how many welds I’ve had to fix? Zero Good luck Ngirado86, I hope your day is as pleasant as you are.
@@GriftCo you were doing so good and then you lost it. The part that you screwed up at was saying rivets fail from flexing and fatigue. I’ll share something with you…again. It’s a heck of a lot cheaper to fix a few rivets and MUCH easier in terms of actual time and labor. What I explained to you and anyone who knows anything about welding will tell you and if they don’t tell you this then they don’t know what they’re doing. When you get a crack in a weld the ENTIRE joint needs to be re-welded whereas replacing a few rivets where they failed and not the entire joint again is where rivets are king. But I’m sure you already knew that. My 22 year old Lowe 1256 is a testament to how good rivets are. That boat doesn’t take on a SINGLE DROP of water. I’ll take it over welded any day.
@@GriftCo mate its awesome and dont worry I am making so many stuff ups in my build but learning heaps in the process. That video must of taken forever to do and thank you. 🙏🙏🙏
Haha - I was wondering when someone would comment about it. I was fortunate enough to be a part of the Hobie Worlds 5 (not a competitor unfortunately) and managed to snag the jumper - it probably doesn't deserve to be my welding hoodie but I think it does the job well.
So you wish to use seadek? Ive found it can be a bit slippery. Check out Hydroturf. Jetskis use it. Comes in lots of cool colours n a few patterns. Moulded pattern or cut pattern. Cut pattern has better grip. Available from AJSP Gold Coast.
Hey mate, didn't you have a video about the console build? I can't find it. I was wanting to track down the cool push button switches you used. What are they called? Looking forward to the next video!
I’m going to replace ply flooring in a quintrex 4.2 renegade so a bit of extra weight will be a benefit, great videos, you gave me plenty of ideas and pointers. Good to get an Aussie point of view and honesty.
I learn when you do keep the mistakes. Ps I'm keen to redesign my deck, and follow yours, but I need something covering the aluminium, can you suggest something so I don't burn my feet.
Hey James, what I'll be going with is EVA Foam Decking. It's what I plan on goign with, but haven't comitted yet as I wanna do a little more to the deck beforehand.
Heya, great work, embarking on a very similar project myself. Question, did you use 5052 or 5083 grade sheet, and was it 3mm? How have you found the flex, noticed you haven't added stiffeners to the hatches.
G'day Lachlan - The deck used 5005 Sheet in 3mm. The flex is pretty un-noticable under foot, but it is a little visible when you film it. I'm not a super heavy bloke, but I think if I had 30kg extra on me I'd be considering running some trusses on the underside. For the moment though the sheet is stiff enough for what I'm doing.
You should have used rivets my man.
Yeah, nah - agree to disagree.
@@GriftCo not even in the least bit. Rivets hold up to the constant flex of a boat. Welds DONT. When a weld breaks you have to redo the entire length of weld. When a rivet goes bad you replace the rivet. That just shows how much you know.
@@ngirardo86, thank you for your input! Whilst I usually try to avoid reacting to deliberately inflammatory comments, you’ve somehow managed to strike a nerve but also I feel I could share some context that others may find valuable.
Whilst I am not a professional boat builder (not something I’ve ever claimed to be) I do know a “bit” about design and engineering. Specifically working in the off-road automotive space for going on 8 years, with many of my designs that are entirely riveted earning tens of millions of dollars revenue.
With that in mind it may be obvious I would be the first to praise the value of rivets, after all I have a reputation on this channel for being a diehard lover of rivet-nuts as well. You might want to turn your attention to the rear deck build video I did which was entirely constructed of rivets and connectors, no welding to be seen.
Rivets have their place, and in this video I still use them. However not every joint could be made with rivets without making other compromises to the design; whether that’s material, aesthetics, function, labour/ effort etc etc.
Whilst your comment does ring true, that rivets have an innate ability to flex, I could share with you my professional experience with the failure of rivets due to flex and fatigue of materials. Feel free to message me if you’d like to see how “little I know”.
Lastly, I’d like to point out something you’ve obviously overlooked. This is a personal project, My own boat made in my own shed. I had a personal goal of learning how to TIG weld aluminium and what better way than on my own boat. If a weld fails, I get to fix it! Would you like to know how many welds I’ve had to fix? Zero
Good luck Ngirado86, I hope your day is as pleasant as you are.
@@GriftCo you were doing so good and then you lost it. The part that you screwed up at was saying rivets fail from flexing and fatigue. I’ll share something with you…again. It’s a heck of a lot cheaper to fix a few rivets and MUCH easier in terms of actual time and labor. What I explained to you and anyone who knows anything about welding will tell you and if they don’t tell you this then they don’t know what they’re doing. When you get a crack in a weld the ENTIRE joint needs to be re-welded whereas replacing a few rivets where they failed and not the entire joint again is where rivets are king. But I’m sure you already knew that. My 22 year old Lowe 1256 is a testament to how good rivets are. That boat doesn’t take on a SINGLE DROP of water. I’ll take it over welded any day.
@@ngirardo86 cool bro
This would look awesome painted white!😊
Very nice work explained very well awesome content 👍👌🏻
Perfect!
Great video mate 🤙🏼 I vote keep the muck ups in, always nice to know what not to do aswell as what to do
Jaidon Nicholson thanks Jaidon
Really nice work
Great video mate and will be coming back for more
Thanks Rory! Plenty more to come so keep your eyes peeled for new vids
Beast
But I must say those welds are looking good. Stacking some dimes. 👌👌🤘🤘
Hell no I have learnt more from your stuff ups and insights than anything. Another awesome video mate cheers.
Good to hear Andrew! Don't worry, it sounds like there's going to be more stuff ups to come. Thanks for your support :)
@@GriftCo mate its awesome and dont worry I am making so many stuff ups in my build but learning heaps in the process. That video must of taken forever to do and thank you. 🙏🙏🙏
Nice Hobie jumper
Haha - I was wondering when someone would comment about it. I was fortunate enough to be a part of the Hobie Worlds 5 (not a competitor unfortunately) and managed to snag the jumper - it probably doesn't deserve to be my welding hoodie but I think it does the job well.
So you wish to use seadek? Ive found it can be a bit slippery. Check out Hydroturf. Jetskis use it. Comes in lots of cool colours n a few patterns. Moulded pattern or cut pattern. Cut pattern has better grip. Available from AJSP Gold Coast.
Thanks Andrew, I’ll check that out
Great video, has given me the inspiration to start my own project
Nice work as usual mate 👍
Great vid mate👍🏼 don’t make us wait to long for the next one please😂😂
Thom Shaw Trying my best to get these done quickly! Thankfully the next one should be less involved :)
Hey mate, didn't you have a video about the console build? I can't find it. I was wanting to track down the cool push button switches you used. What are they called?
Looking forward to the next video!
Awesome video keep em coming!
Thanks mate! Hoping to get one out in the next week or so showing the full livewell system so stay tuned :)
Sick build 👌 Have to start finally my own project 😃👍
Keep the stuff ups I reckon. It’s good to highlight them so hopefully people can avoid them with their own projects
Joeblogs Yep, that’s my thoughts too Joe!
Are you happy with the 3mm plate flooring or do you think 4mm would be more durable.
Haven’t had any trouble with the 3mm at all. If money and weight allows I’d probably do 4mm just to reduce a bit of flex
I’m going to replace ply flooring in a quintrex 4.2 renegade so a bit of extra weight will be a benefit, great videos, you gave me plenty of ideas and pointers. Good to get an Aussie point of view and honesty.
Hey mate wicked video very well made and explained perfectly. Can you tell me how much the welder cost?
What hinges did you end up going with mate??
Hey mate, would you feel safe from crocs up north in the boat ?
I learn when you do keep the mistakes. Ps I'm keen to redesign my deck, and follow yours, but I need something covering the aluminium, can you suggest something so I don't burn my feet.
Hey James, what I'll be going with is EVA Foam Decking. It's what I plan on goign with, but haven't comitted yet as I wanna do a little more to the deck beforehand.
@@GriftCo I’ve been thinking the same, but I just wonder how the Eva will stand up to the sun in the NW.
nice vid, what brand welder, does it use gas ect cheers
6 knots - it’s a Powercraft 201 AC/DC Tig which uses Argon
Hey mate just wanted to know did that boat come with the side console and if not where did you buy it from
Yeah, came with the console! I believe it was a genuine Quintrex console though
Yeeeew
Well done Marc! You're officially the fastest commenter on my videos. Love your work :)
Grift Co. haha no problem, just got no life 😂
Heya,
great work, embarking on a very similar project myself. Question, did you use 5052 or 5083 grade sheet, and was it 3mm? How have you found the flex, noticed you haven't added stiffeners to the hatches.
G'day Lachlan - The deck used 5005 Sheet in 3mm. The flex is pretty un-noticable under foot, but it is a little visible when you film it. I'm not a super heavy bloke, but I think if I had 30kg extra on me I'd be considering running some trusses on the underside. For the moment though the sheet is stiff enough for what I'm doing.
Actually - looking back into it, I think it was 5083, not 5005. I'll have to have another look at the invoice!
How long/big is your boat?
Hey Leeson - She's 3.85meters/ 12.6feet
@@GriftCo ah ok thanks! Nice boat just watched almost all your videos. Wish I had you on my side to build up my tinny.
@@ChuckNorris01 Thanks Mate! Really appreciate it!
@@GriftCo keep the content coming. I also learned some of the Australian accent 😆
@@ChuckNorris01 Haha! Don't worry cobber - more to come :)
What state are you in?
NSW
as is