“There are no wrong notes, only wrong resolutions.” ~ Jazz Pianist Bill Evans “Only a note played meekly is ever wrong, that same note played with confidence is your own interpretation.” ~ Dr. Frederick Donald Turner, (my) Former Professor of Saxophone & Jazz Theory, Texas Tech University
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i hear ya. if you just break the rules, you dont really know what you´re doing. its just you, rolling your forehead over they pianokeys. however, if you know your shit - you also WHAT to abuse AND HOW. controlled and well versed chaos is a thing of beauty
@@JollyOliW yea the composer didnt write that. Its the person who transcribed/wrote down the sheet music based on the video. It's the equivalent to people who make subtitles or captions and then including translator's or captioner's notes on the subs like "All according to keikaku (T/N: Keikaku means plan)"
Comments like this are really indicative of the failure of musical education. The composer didn't write the note out of tune. That is a quirk of the performance, which was transcribed by Mr. Collier. Transcription is writing down music that already exists in some form, usually for the purpose of analysis. Composition is the process of creating new music from you own ideas.
@@lynth When he’s off, he sings one semitone higher than all the instruments. On a piano, that is from the white key where F is, up to the very next black key.
@@jumblejumbo I still don't get it. The way he sings would sound bad in any song in any key, no? So it's just about that long "shaaaaaaarp" he sings? He's just making some weird BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH sound like a sheep that would sound bad in any tone. Now I wonder what it would sound like if you sang a whole song properly in "f sharp" and played the instrument in a different tune.
Yes! My mom can't usually hear differences in pitches and every once in a while she'll ask me about being "off key" and what it means and I'll try to demonstrate but I usually end up harmonizing instead
@@vmitodd The "a little" part is the problem. You know what a half step sounds like, but it's extremely hard to hear/feel that interval between your voice and an orchestra when the sound isn't natural to feel. Also, simply bringing yourself to sing that much dissonance, even if you know perfectly in your mind what the half step should sound like, is not easy when there's an orchestra forcing a harmonic foundation into your mind. It's definitely something that needs to be practiced a lot for an individual piece.
@@wwsciffsww3748 - There are if that wrong note doesn't lead to a passage that resolves in a musically acceptable manner. Now, we can disagree on what that may be, but there ARE conventions that tend to define what is acceptable and pleasing to listen to in western music, even in jazz, and to violate those is to fail the "no wrong note" theory.
What fun... especially when you realize he's playing in D minor (the F# wants to turn it into D Major) until the final cadence brings us at last to the promised dissonance of F# on top of the F major chord.
Thanks for the explanation, I was wondering why it sounds alright except for the word "sharp" where it suddenly obviously clashes with the music like he said it would. This was the piece of the puzzle I was missing
F is a note around 43hz. F#(sharp) is a note around 46hz. These are frequencies. F# is just 3hz higher in pitch than F and it would be the first note after F which is the first of the three black notes on a piano. It's a half step or semitone away from F.
Everything Is sharp so it's quite a pain to read and play. You really need some reason to play it instead of F or G (both only 1 semitone distant, both super common and easy to play keys)
Every now and then I try to explain to a friend how I used to sing a song incorrectly and off pitch when I was younger. But when I go to recreate my off pitch singing...I can't do it. It's very challenging to sing off key when you know you're doing it. So, hats off to this performance here for conveying that quite well.
You have to be skilled to sing songs ‘correctly’ but it takes true talent to be able to do this. I wouldn’t have lasted the first few lines -my ears would have rebelled, my fingers would be in agony and my head would have coagulated.
Or you could be me, not have the skill to hear the supposed discrepancy, and be wickedly talented singing in a key different from what is being played. Granted, it wouldn't have the intentionality of this, but close enough
@@gjermundnorumbugge7373 that's what I was thinking for someone who's played for over 3 years and can hold a note but can't read music it still seems pretty hard on my level.
Lmao middle school kids learn chromatic scales where I went to school, is it that you can't find a semitone at all or just that your brain is *screaming* to fill in the blanks with what you *think* should sound right? Idk man, maybe I'm the one overthinking here but if a score calls for a sharp, I sing a sharp 🤷♂️ Shouldn't be that crazy right?
@@LiMCRiMZ My brain doesn't like vocals that sound "wrong" and it takes a lot of discipline to follow the notes on the page when they don't "feel" right, if that makes sense. Strangely, I love instrumental parts that are discordant sometimes.
@@LiMCRiMZ It's not that they can't hear different notes I think it's more that they can't differentiate in a vacuum. I'm not a trained singer but I can get pretty close to on the right notes with practice. My tone-deaf friend, on the other hand, couldn't find middle c if it was the only key on a piano.
seems like a lot of you out there have ginger fetishes out there these days. I was a ginger when young. All the other none gingers i grew up with died a long time ago .....yeah fuck yeah ....black hairs ...too bad...LOL
This is most likely the first person I see, who sounds like he can’t really sing, but still manages to hit all the correct notes and it is definitely the first person I see, who hits all the correct notes and still sounds off on purpose! Lol
@@hypercrite I think it's common for Australians, when singing with a broad Australian accent (rather than a neutral one) to forgo vibrato and generally sing with a timbre that most people don't consider to be very musical.
@@BibleStorm yep you're right. When I was learning to sing at a school filled with bogans, our choir teacher had to get us to pronounce everything with much more rounded vowels and whatnot. Because we sounded like shit when we used our normal Australian accents, but great when we used a more refined version
The look of intense concentration on Tim's face when he is purposefully singing out of key. That has to be so difficult for someone who actually has an ear for music!
@@TPHRyan Cuz it's technically D minor instead of F major right? if the piano was truly F major it would be a semitone. How do you tell the difference between D minor and F major when listening? they have all the same notes and chords, just in a different order. Is it cuz his playing is much more based in Dm chord the F? he doesn't play F very often, Dm comes up much more frequently. Apart from the last sharp for all the sharps he is playing Dm against it instead of F
@@lightningkiki6090 yeah that is more or less how it's worked out, the root chord of the song is Dm and all of the melodic material is around a Dm scale. Which I don't have a problem with, I assume he's just singing about F major without having to play in it :p (I mean also the commonly used minor scales have a raised 7th or something but that's a technicality)
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My dog was sleeping peacefully and as soon as Tim hit that F# he woke up and starting barking as if there was an intruder. (True story, I genuinely lost my shit)
I won't keep animals and people keeping animals, especially dogs, annoy me in the public to no end. I'm not going to do shit about it though, just saying. btw gj on feeding the troll, now go feed your dog or let em starve lel
The ultimate barb at the end of "not even an F#" is fantastic. I still find Tim Minchin hilarious, but I've massive respect for these sorts of videos, too.
So this is where CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow has been hiding all these years! Edit: As all of you pointed out, I should've added Captain. Put that respect on his name 🙏
@@Dan_Cattell_Art Both, I guess. I personally think religion does more harm than good, but it doesn't make sense for this channel to post such divisive content. It's about music, not world views
Sounded like he overshot on the first try lol. If that's F he wants A# and took a few bars to get down to it. He smiles a little when he realizes and corrects. 🙂 The trick for nailing it easily is to think #11/IV. I with raised third is way harder.
This is right up there with talented actors who have to perform a character who can’t act. Acting like you can’t act and be convincing when others know you can is a talent on another level. Like Jean Hagen as Lina Lamont in Singing in the Rain.
In one episode of _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ the main characters are forced to participate in a talent show. They choose to perform a dramatic reading of _Oedipus Rex_ . The characters' atrociously bad acting is hilarious, as is Cordelia's horrendous rendition of _Greatest Love of All_ . ua-cam.com/video/7vJcQnOLV70/v-deo.html
if you want a semi-classical musical version try "Ouvertüre zum „Fliegenden Holländer“, wie sie eine schlechte Kurkapelle morgens um 7 am Brunnen vom Blatt spielt (Overture to the Flying Dutchman as Sight-read by a Bad Spa Orchestra at 7 in the Morning by the Well)" by Paul Hindemith. The musicians have to *intentionally* play like bad musicians, which is harder than playing well.
His videos regularly get millions of views and he's well received by critics and musicians alike. I'm pretty sure he was already getting the recognition he deserved, and has consistently done so for over a decade now. I saw him live back in 2009 when he was doing small shows in small venues all on his lonesome and he's only got better. He has a freakin' orchestra here for crying out loud!
@@mydogeatspuke In UA-cam parlance "underrated" (or something similar) is used willy nilly. Usually the person just wants to say they like someone or something. It's odd, I know, but so very commonplace these days.
@@louieberg2942 yeah, it's almost as commonplace as total strangers explaining really well known and obvious things to people who aren't 5, presumably because they just love the sound of their own head voice.
@@mydogeatspuke It was an honest mistake on my part then. Maybe I worded it snooty? I did so, because you seemed to want to explain why he is not really underrated.
I mean technically he means he won't sing, not talk. That I also gleaned this makes me a musician too? I haven't been for many, many years, but I can always pretend on the internet.
@@leveganist What he is doing on piano - without watching his hands and conveying all the right facial expressions in front of a large audience) is difficult enough in itself before even adding any vocals. Not that this is his most difficult work by any stretch.
The end notation... 'not even an F#'.... God, it really fits the vocal struggle. Reminds me of the days I can't sing in tune to save my life for no reason, so I tell myself I am deliberately choosing dissonance for sTyLiStIc reasons.
I was at a wedding where the groom performed this song with the band. Hilarious but you could see all the aunties and grannies looking horrified and confused lol.
I love Tim Minchin, if you haven’t looked it up, he made a 7 minute love/power ballad with jazz elements, about cheese. It’s literally just called cheese and it is as amazing as it sounds
Something about the fact that Tim's written a song about anal sex and God, but also wrote Matilda the Musical is so incredibly perfect in the most counterintuitive way And the number of times I've listened to Mitsubishi Colt is likey a genuine problem
@@EvelinaLefaille I had the great joy of seeing him perform that at the Oxford 101 Club as a warm-up for that tour. Not sure if it was the actual premiere of that song, but pretty close. Anyway, in the chorus, after the French interlude, he was encouraging the audience to yell 'Cheese!' back at him. Everyone else was a bit slow, so, being a bit contrarian, I yelled, 'Stilton!' which, he proceeded to spell out in the next chorus. I think it wasn't until the second 'T' in Stilton that he realised that he had one more letter to contend with than 'Cheese,' so he had to jam the 'O-N' into where the final 'E' would have been. 'Twas hilarious :D
The great thing about his performance is that I know absolutely nothing about music - keys, majors, sharps, flats, whatever - but I still totally get it and love the humor in it. That's the mark of a true talent.
Meanwhile, here I am, with a semi-working understanding of music theory, which lets me understand this, but also with an absolute inability to grasp how people can hear a sung tone (e.g. the classic 440 Hz A) and the same 440 Hz A played on a guitar and a sax or whatever and say that's the same thing. My brain just doesn't let me account for the timbre (the other, background sounds of different frequencies), is what I am able to make out of what I know about my perception of music. Which means that I don't really find this piece strange sounding. Cherish the fact that you can hear it.
I'm absolutely obsessed with tim minchin at the moment I would LOVE to see some more transcriptions of his work. His most technically impressive song is probably Dark Side, not just for his great solo but also for those stupid high notes he sings during the breakdown But I'd also be psyched to see a transcription of one or both of his beat poems Storm and Mitsubishi Colt
Those would be hard to transcribe as they’re different every time he performs them. I mean, all of his stuff is to a certain extent, but especially those
@@allisonbergh4429 dark side definitely has some versions that are more popular like the “awesome version” that floats around youtube - that would be a good source for transcription
I have SO much respect for anyone who can pull this off. It is extremely difficult. I have sang a few A capella pieces where I was a half step from another part, but never with a full orchestra behind me. WOW!
That was awesome and really original. Never heard of this guy before. Talented as hell and tons of stage presence. Singing and playing is something that is difficult to begin with. Now, intentionally singing in another key outside of what you are playing is on another level. Much respect.
He wrote the music for “Matilda.” He also wrote a “Lullaby” for his baby girl several years ago, which is truly a lament for all new parents and extremely funny.
To sing out of tune on purpose while playing and hearing music in a particular key requires serious concentration and that's why it's only done with one note one-half step higher. It's difficult to do.
He’s talented and funny, but I couldn’t take it when he started singing ‘F shaaaarrrrrppp’! My son used to play all of these off-tempo and off-key covers of various popular songs, to try and get on my nerves, and it always made my skin crawl. This gave me the same immediate gut reaction.
This reminds me of Tom Lehrer, the combined skillful piano and singing zany lyrics that tell a story, always with a twist. If you don't know Tom Lehrer, or if you do, he was a Harvard mathematician and piano player/singer who got some fame for tunes like "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park," "The Elements Song," and "We'll All Go Together When We Go." And before that (or at the same time), he did "Silent E" and "L-Y" on The Electric Company. Anyway, great job by Tim Minchin. I didn't realize he was this musically talented. Cheers.
I literally cannot force myself to sing out of key. I accidentally fall somewhere back into key. Seeing someone actually able to do this on command is legit impressive lol
We are in a Golden Era of information and people and Mr. Collier helps me to realize that constsntly. Thank you from all the musicians in the world, thank you.
Funnily enough that last bit is almost exactly what happens to me when trying to sing an F#4 in full voice. My body pretty much says "nope you get F4 or you get falsetto"
i have a very similar problem lol, im a tenor and for some reason my voice just cracks and breaks to pieces on G#3 specifically lmao, sometimes F# and G too, but its not like i have to sing them with the like “head voice” or wtv its called, i can sing them the same as E3 and A3, it just……. wavers in pitch so badly and idk why lmao, it’s funny
there are no wrong notes, you just lack confidence - jacob collier
Was the note at least IN the scale of f# please please
I agree but in order for it to work u hav to play the wrong not with the right rhythmic context
there are no wrong notes, you just lack confidence - jacob collier - the other collier
Victor Wooten has a similar exercise where he teaches to play an entire solo out of wrong notes.
“There are no wrong notes, only wrong resolutions.” ~ Jazz Pianist Bill Evans
“Only a note played meekly is ever wrong, that same note played with confidence is your own interpretation.” ~ Dr. Frederick Donald Turner, (my) Former Professor of Saxophone & Jazz Theory, Texas Tech University
Saw the title, was utterly confused, and now, I’m not disappointed
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
it is what it is
Same hahaha That's very impressive
Well, I am disappointed.
Okay?.. neat
The fact that you don't need musical training to understand why this is both cool and painful to listen to at the same time is awesome.
It seems that to understand this does need a little bit of musical knowledge...
honestly it sounds good
@@grqfes kind of, but not really. its funny tho
How do you get musical training when you have no money
Kalee Fisher Coursera has free music theory courses which teaches you the basics of music, such as chords, harmony, Italian music terms etc. in fact, I’m taking one right now!). I swear I’m not a coursera employee or an advert, just wanted to help out :)
Ah, the final note - F 3/4#. Truly an ironic end to an iconic song.
I thought it was f 1.5#?
@@DDA_Apocalypse me too??
Yeah cause wouldn't f 3/4 # be
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You guys are all wrong its F 27.209#. Listen closer, fools.
@@mikeb3811 I wasn't going by cents, I was going by the image on the transcription
This is freaking genius. Telling the audience you are purposely going to sing out of key. It hurts but it hurts so good!!
You know, there's something truly special about a skilled and talented musician breaking rules on purpose.
i hear ya. if you just break the rules, you dont really know what you´re doing. its just you, rolling your forehead over they pianokeys. however, if you know your shit - you also WHAT to abuse AND HOW.
controlled and well versed chaos is a thing of beauty
That's some Picasso shit if ever saw one
that’s what rules are for lol! totally agree. learn them well, and break them well
And literally every Aussie who isn't a musician sings in F Sharp it's the weirdest bloody thing, there's deep lore to this.
I do that all the time , thanks for the compliment
The "not even an F#" kills me. Love it when composers write stuff outside the staff.
It’s a transcription… the composer didn’t write that
@@M1GYT they mean the writing outside the sheet music.
@@JollyOliW yea the composer didnt write that. Its the person who transcribed/wrote down the sheet music based on the video. It's the equivalent to people who make subtitles or captions and then including translator's or captioner's notes on the subs like "All according to keikaku (T/N: Keikaku means plan)"
"piano not really audible, so I made up something nice" on the same page
Comments like this are really indicative of the failure of musical education.
The composer didn't write the note out of tune. That is a quirk of the performance, which was transcribed by Mr. Collier. Transcription is writing down music that already exists in some form, usually for the purpose of analysis. Composition is the process of creating new music from you own ideas.
y'all I don't know if you realize how DIFFICULT it is to sing out of tune _purposefully_
Oh I certainly do. It takes a great musician to break rules on purpose.
I don't get what's out of tune. I don't get this song at all because I have no idea about musical theory or how notes work.
@@lynth When he’s off, he sings one semitone higher than all the instruments. On a piano, that is from the white key where F is, up to the very next black key.
@@jumblejumbo I still don't get it. The way he sings would sound bad in any song in any key, no? So it's just about that long "shaaaaaaarp" he sings? He's just making some weird BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH sound like a sheep that would sound bad in any tone. Now I wonder what it would sound like if you sang a whole song properly in "f sharp" and played the instrument in a different tune.
@@lynth lol yup you definitely dont get it
He’s singing out of tune but in tune at the same time. Literally. Absolutely amazing.
He is tune, but out of key
It must be so difficult to hit that F# when a whole orchestra plays f
Yes! My mom can't usually hear differences in pitches and every once in a while she'll ask me about being "off key" and what it means and I'll try to demonstrate but I usually end up harmonizing instead
Difficult definitely, but once you practice it enough to get past the expectations, it's not much different from other songs you know by heart.
I actually do it quiet naturally, basically all the time... sadly not on purpose
No. You just sing a little higher than you hear.
@@vmitodd The "a little" part is the problem. You know what a half step sounds like, but it's extremely hard to hear/feel that interval between your voice and an orchestra when the sound isn't natural to feel.
Also, simply bringing yourself to sing that much dissonance, even if you know perfectly in your mind what the half step should sound like, is not easy when there's an orchestra forcing a harmonic foundation into your mind.
It's definitely something that needs to be practiced a lot for an individual piece.
when the wrong note is the right note
There are no wrong notes
@@wwsciffsww3748 there are, but we mustn't pretend to agree
@@wwsciffsww3748 you just lack the confidence
Jazz has entered the game
@@wwsciffsww3748 - There are if that wrong note doesn't lead to a passage that resolves in a musically acceptable manner. Now, we can disagree on what that may be, but there ARE conventions that tend to define what is acceptable and pleasing to listen to in western music, even in jazz, and to violate those is to fail the "no wrong note" theory.
What fun... especially when you realize he's playing in D minor (the F# wants to turn it into D Major) until the final cadence brings us at last to the promised dissonance of F# on top of the F major chord.
Thanks for the explanation, I was wondering why it sounds alright except for the word "sharp" where it suddenly obviously clashes with the music like he said it would. This was the piece of the puzzle I was missing
nerd
Now I want to see the song sung in F# major while the orchestra and piano stay in D minor
D minor and F major are essentially the same key though.
@@rome8180 They are felt differently
As a non-musical person, I'm not sure what the *F* he's playing, but it's still pretty funny.
I see what you did there👀
This. This is what I call comedy.
F is a note around 43hz. F#(sharp) is a note around 46hz. These are frequencies. F# is just 3hz higher in pitch than F and it would be the first note after F which is the first of the three black notes on a piano. It's a half step or semitone away from F.
@@noahfeazell3336 Fak?
@@addicz2 What?
in my music theory class this kid would consistently write all his compositions in F# major and it would make the teacher so mad
Okay, fill me in. Why is F# major worthy if pissing off a professor?
@@scottydu81 it’s just a bad key i don’t know how to explain it it’s just objectively the worst key
Everything Is sharp so it's quite a pain to read and play. You really need some reason to play it instead of F or G (both only 1 semitone distant, both super common and easy to play keys)
@@scottydu81 I think you have to put like 6 or 7 sharps beside the clefs which probably isn't the best idea out there.
I wonder what he would think of D# minor
For those who are not musicians, let me tell you that intentionally singing against the harmony is far more difficult than you might think🦁
Especially while playing in the original harmony.
bullshit. just imagine the F# before hitting the note. it's just one sharp note. not that hard
@@longebane We get it dude, you're perfect and everything is easy. Some serious middle school vibes here XP
As a pianist, i disagree but at the same time you are so right
@@longebane if everyone in a fucking orquestra in playing a chord with F natural, and u gotta sing off tune it's not that simple.
Every now and then I try to explain to a friend how I used to sing a song incorrectly and off pitch when I was younger. But when I go to recreate my off pitch singing...I can't do it. It's very challenging to sing off key when you know you're doing it. So, hats off to this performance here for conveying that quite well.
It’s not that hard if you can sing. This is rubbish
You have to be skilled to sing songs ‘correctly’ but it takes true talent to be able to do this. I wouldn’t have lasted the first few lines -my ears would have rebelled, my fingers would be in agony and my head would have coagulated.
Coagulated Head is my favorite NIN song
Or you could be me, not have the skill to hear the supposed discrepancy, and be wickedly talented singing in a key different from what is being played. Granted, it wouldn't have the intentionality of this, but close enough
To be fair, he only sings one word off key (“sharp”), all other words/lines are in tune
The first many lines were totally normal though, so why would your ears have rebelled?
*why is the creepy guy wearing makeup...?*
Singing in f sharp while playing piano seems extremely hard
Yes and no. It's pretty easy to find a semitone in your head.
Saw this live a few weeks ago. Half the audience confidently yelling an F natural can't help.
It is a little tricky, but if you played as much piano as this dude it would be very trivial
@@gjermundnorumbugge7373 that's what I was thinking for someone who's played for over 3 years and can hold a note but can't read music it still seems pretty hard on my level.
He's not singing in F# while playing, the only chromatic note is the F# itself
That’s a lot harder than it sounds lol. Especially when you’re NOT tone deaf.
Lmao middle school kids learn chromatic scales where I went to school, is it that you can't find a semitone at all or just that your brain is *screaming* to fill in the blanks with what you *think* should sound right?
Idk man, maybe I'm the one overthinking here but if a score calls for a sharp, I sing a sharp 🤷♂️
Shouldn't be that crazy right?
@@LiMCRiMZ My brain doesn't like vocals that sound "wrong" and it takes a lot of discipline to follow the notes on the page when they don't "feel" right, if that makes sense. Strangely, I love instrumental parts that are discordant sometimes.
@@LiMCRiMZ It's not that they can't hear different notes I think it's more that they can't differentiate in a vacuum. I'm not a trained singer but I can get pretty close to on the right notes with practice. My tone-deaf friend, on the other hand, couldn't find middle c if it was the only key on a piano.
Must be pretty hard, since he’s doing poorly.
@@LiMCRiMZ im in 9th grade but wtf is chromatic scales
As an orchestra musician the note f# will forever be engrained into my mind.
Tim Minchin is both a musical genius as well as a comedic one. Bless this man and all his Ginger shenanigans
I don't know if you can call him that.
Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger
seems like a lot of you out there have ginger fetishes out there these days. I was a ginger when young. All the other none gingers i grew up with died a long time ago .....yeah fuck yeah ....black hairs ...too bad...LOL
Was he not in a showing of Jesus Christ Superstar? as Judis
@@alecweir3684Yes, he's the best Judas.
This is most likely the first person I see, who sounds like he can’t really sing, but still manages to hit all the correct notes and it is definitely the first person I see, who hits all the correct notes and still sounds off on purpose! Lol
That first part is because of the australian accent.
@@BibleStorm He has no singing voice and no vibrato because of his Australian accent? Sorry, but what?
The start of the song is fairly spoken. If you listen to some of his other songs he’s actually quite good. Tim Minchin is his name
@@hypercrite I think it's common for Australians, when singing with a broad Australian accent (rather than a neutral one) to forgo vibrato and generally sing with a timbre that most people don't consider to be very musical.
@@BibleStorm yep you're right. When I was learning to sing at a school filled with bogans, our choir teacher had to get us to pronounce everything with much more rounded vowels and whatnot. Because we sounded like shit when we used our normal Australian accents, but great when we used a more refined version
The look of intense concentration on Tim's face when he is purposefully singing out of key. That has to be so difficult for someone who actually has an ear for music!
It takes immense concentration - you are basically rebelling against all your training.
easiest thing to do when you don't have training, hardest to do once you're trained
It's actually only the major 3rd, people who struggle with this evidently haven't done a whole lot of modern dissonant choral music :P
@@TPHRyan Cuz it's technically D minor instead of F major right? if the piano was truly F major it would be a semitone.
How do you tell the difference between D minor and F major when listening? they have all the same notes and chords, just in a different order.
Is it cuz his playing is much more based in Dm chord the F? he doesn't play F very often, Dm comes up much more frequently. Apart from the last sharp for all the sharps he is playing Dm against it instead of F
@@lightningkiki6090 yeah that is more or less how it's worked out, the root chord of the song is Dm and all of the melodic material is around a Dm scale. Which I don't have a problem with, I assume he's just singing about F major without having to play in it :p
(I mean also the commonly used minor scales have a raised 7th or something but that's a technicality)
tim minchin has always been my favorite comedian. such an insanely talented soul. then mixing comedy in on top of that? GG
he looks like if jack sparrow gave up everything to do music
Agreed, he looks like if Jack Sparrow gave up everything.
absolutely everything!
He gave up the rum 😅😅
😂
he did. look it up
LOVE!!!! Laughed so hard. New fan here❤️
Whoa notice pleaze
Heyyy
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Tim Minchin is fuckin fantastic
Lol
My dog was sleeping peacefully and as soon as Tim hit that F# he woke up and starting barking as if there was an intruder. (True story, I genuinely lost my shit)
LMAO that’s great
good doggo
keeping animals is anti-progress but I'll make an exception
@@h00db01i wdym by "anti-progress" exactly? If i can ask
I won't keep animals and people keeping animals, especially dogs, annoy me in the public to no end. I'm not going to do shit about it though, just saying. btw gj on feeding the troll, now go feed your dog or let em starve lel
That was horribly amazing
The ultimate barb at the end of "not even an F#" is fantastic. I still find Tim Minchin hilarious, but I've massive respect for these sorts of videos, too.
There's also the little note: "piano not really audible, so I made up something nice."
What note was it even?
So this is where CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow has been hiding all these years!
Edit: As all of you pointed out, I should've added Captain. Put that respect on his name 🙏
CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow
I believe you forgot one "CAPTAIN" off that sentence.
more like Undertaker
Yep basically. Don’t mind him, just in his mean time just sing f# for crowds for no reason
To me that dude looks exactly like Edward Kenway lol
Sweet, Tim Minchin! More of him would be awesome! Maybe his ridiculous piani solo from Dark Side?
Absolutely seconded
I'm a big fan of him, but his content is very anti religion and divisive, which I don't mind, but many people might
This would be excellent
@@dehanbadenhorst1398 Anti-religion... Or pro-reality?
@@Dan_Cattell_Art Both, I guess. I personally think religion does more harm than good, but it doesn't make sense for this channel to post such divisive content. It's about music, not world views
it’s actually so impressive that he can pull up to the right note every time when everything else in the song is steering him down
Sounded like he overshot on the first try lol. If that's F he wants A# and took a few bars to get down to it. He smiles a little when he realizes and corrects. 🙂 The trick for nailing it easily is to think #11/IV. I with raised third is way harder.
I mean, this is impressive, truly. But you know, the guy who’s singing really just look like how Mozart would’ve looked if he was a rock star 😂.
I think your comment's also impressive 😭
Mozart was a rock star.
Tim is so fucking rock.
I thought it was Shane Dawson at first...
@@qwertyTRiG He is so god damn rock
This is right up there with talented actors who have to perform a character who can’t act. Acting like you can’t act and be convincing when others know you can is a talent on another level. Like Jean Hagen as Lina Lamont in Singing in the Rain.
and Hayden Christensen in Star Wars ... wait, maybe that is a bad example.
...and Amber Heard in the 2022 Heard-Depp trial ... wait, maybe that is another bad example.
In one episode of _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ the main characters are forced to participate in a talent show. They choose to perform a dramatic reading of _Oedipus Rex_ . The characters' atrociously bad acting is hilarious, as is Cordelia's horrendous rendition of _Greatest Love of All_ . ua-cam.com/video/7vJcQnOLV70/v-deo.html
Jean Hagen doesn't get enough credit for how awesome she was in that movie!!
if you want a semi-classical musical version try "Ouvertüre zum „Fliegenden Holländer“, wie sie eine schlechte Kurkapelle morgens um 7 am Brunnen vom Blatt spielt (Overture to the Flying Dutchman as Sight-read by a Bad Spa Orchestra at 7 in the Morning by the Well)" by Paul Hindemith. The musicians have to *intentionally* play like bad musicians, which is harder than playing well.
tim minchin getting the recognition he deserves, musical genius
AND comical genius !
His videos regularly get millions of views and he's well received by critics and musicians alike. I'm pretty sure he was already getting the recognition he deserved, and has consistently done so for over a decade now. I saw him live back in 2009 when he was doing small shows in small venues all on his lonesome and he's only got better. He has a freakin' orchestra here for crying out loud!
@@mydogeatspuke In UA-cam parlance "underrated" (or something similar) is used willy nilly. Usually the person just wants to say they like someone or something.
It's odd, I know, but so very commonplace these days.
@@louieberg2942 yeah, it's almost as commonplace as total strangers explaining really well known and obvious things to people who aren't 5, presumably because they just love the sound of their own head voice.
@@mydogeatspuke It was an honest mistake on my part then. Maybe I worded it snooty?
I did so, because you seemed to want to explain why he is not really underrated.
this is the best thing i've seen on the internet all month
"I don't see why my larynx should give in to their demands" is just a musician's way to say "I'm not talking"
Tim Minchin certainly has a way with words!
I mean technically he means he won't sing, not talk. That I also gleaned this makes me a musician too? I haven't been for many, many years, but I can always pretend on the internet.
Tim's a bloody genius. I wish people can realize how FUCKING DIFFICULT it is to do what he does in this performance.
i play bad by accident. to do so on purpose is a gift
No this is not difficult
his fans do!
@@leveganist What he is doing on piano - without watching his hands and conveying all the right facial expressions in front of a large audience) is difficult enough in itself before even adding any vocals. Not that this is his most difficult work by any stretch.
I bet you like his makeup 😂
The end notation... 'not even an F#'.... God, it really fits the vocal struggle. Reminds me of the days I can't sing in tune to save my life for no reason, so I tell myself I am deliberately choosing dissonance for sTyLiStIc reasons.
Ah yes, having a jazz day.
xD
The last note was F# though
@@masjos7103 Wasn't it too sharp though? Like a quarter tone sharper than F sharp would be?..
@@leme686 Yes, it was. I didn't realize the symbol he put next to it meant 1 and a half half-steps
I can't even say how good it was :) That note totally out of tune but how dramatic and satiric it was, wow :) Amazing job. Love it !!!!
as a singer & musician i understand that it is VERY DIFFICULT to do what he did there. just wow, pure talent👏🏻
Yes, its very hard to sing and find the wrong Tone against the Harmony.
Very well done 👌
bullshit. just imagine the F# before hitting the note. it's just one sharp note. not that hard. practice a couple times
...pure practice
as a non singer and musician.. he literally just sang a shitty song over a shitty piano. I don't really get what is happening
@@longebaneyes, if you practise but it goes against all your instincts as a musician.
I was at a wedding where the groom performed this song with the band. Hilarious but you could see all the aunties and grannies looking horrified and confused lol.
That sounds so incredible 😂
I love Tim Minchin, if you haven’t looked it up, he made a 7 minute love/power ballad with jazz elements, about cheese. It’s literally just called cheese and it is as amazing as it sounds
Something about the fact that Tim's written a song about anal sex and God, but also wrote Matilda the Musical is so incredibly perfect in the most counterintuitive way
And the number of times I've listened to Mitsubishi Colt is likey a genuine problem
@@EvelinaLefaille I had the great joy of seeing him perform that at the Oxford 101 Club as a warm-up for that tour. Not sure if it was the actual premiere of that song, but pretty close.
Anyway, in the chorus, after the French interlude, he was encouraging the audience to yell 'Cheese!' back at him. Everyone else was a bit slow, so, being a bit contrarian, I yelled, 'Stilton!' which, he proceeded to spell out in the next chorus. I think it wasn't until the second 'T' in Stilton that he realised that he had one more letter to contend with than 'Cheese,' so he had to jam the 'O-N' into where the final 'E' would have been. 'Twas hilarious :D
Nah thats head
Thank You God is pretty good too.
What is there that Tim’s done that ISNT utterly glorious?? I’ll wait..
Watched couple of videos and it amused me so damn much. You deserved my sub my man. Awesome.
The great thing about his performance is that I know absolutely nothing about music - keys, majors, sharps, flats, whatever - but I still totally get it and love the humor in it. That's the mark of a true talent.
Meanwhile, here I am, with a semi-working understanding of music theory, which lets me understand this, but also with an absolute inability to grasp how people can hear a sung tone (e.g. the classic 440 Hz A) and the same 440 Hz A played on a guitar and a sax or whatever and say that's the same thing. My brain just doesn't let me account for the timbre (the other, background sounds of different frequencies), is what I am able to make out of what I know about my perception of music. Which means that I don't really find this piece strange sounding. Cherish the fact that you can hear it.
That was brilliant. I can only imagine him and the orchestra cracking up for the first hundred times when that F# came up.
Dude how this man intentionally breaks out of harmony is more impressive than singing in harmony.
Awesome!!! XD Thank you so much for the clip. ^^ It's such a funny but require profession to do the song. Awesome!
I never realized how great of a musician Tim Minchin is. I always found him funny, but I didn't know that he is actually pretty serious about music
My dude, he wrote the music and lyrics for the tony award winning musical, Matilda - you're missing out!!
He is a musician that used comedy in his act, primarily he is a musician.
he's a literal genius imo. Hearing him talk, he is clearly beyond intelligent.
dude ive worked with him. hes a fucking genius dude. like 100 percent without a doubt.
Ooooooh the pause and the look before singing the last note, I can’t stop laughing everytime, this is so precious
Thanks for blessing us with these wild moments of music
This it the first joke I've heard that would completely baffle anyone who is tone deaf. What a true comic. :)
I love it. There's absolute 0 audible payoff to hearing that F sharp as a finale but he still nails it
The dissonance was hilarious!!!😀😂
The skill this took is staggering.
That's the most unsatisfying note imaginable and I love it.
1:36 "piano not really audible so i made up something nice" JESUS IS THIS AN ACTUALL TERM IN DYING
No, one can write whatever they want on the score
Love Tim Minchin, you should totally do his solo from "Darkside - Awesome Version" it's INSANE
or "you grew on me", that one's awesome too
As a huge minchin-head, I believe that's from the So Rock Live DVD
All versions are awesome versions
YIPPEE!!
Or the entirety of 'Peace Anthem for Palestine.'
tim minchin the absolute legend
Loving these videos, and love the Spotify playlist. Thanks for sharing.
Everybody : eww it's inaudible
Jacob Collier : "It's actually possible to put a F# with a D Minor chord... Look... [Plays a D min(Maj7)/9#add13√72%] "
He would do Fmaj13#11#15
Technically would be a Gb, but I love myself some b9 chords
Hyper lydian!
Fmaj7b9
@@jonathanbrittain4681 Nah, I'm with Travo. It's the hyper lydian thing, the F# is a #15
I'm absolutely obsessed with tim minchin at the moment I would LOVE to see some more transcriptions of his work.
His most technically impressive song is probably Dark Side, not just for his great solo but also for those stupid high notes he sings during the breakdown
But I'd also be psyched to see a transcription of one or both of his beat poems Storm and Mitsubishi Colt
Those would be hard to transcribe as they’re different every time he performs them. I mean, all of his stuff is to a certain extent, but especially those
Dude hell yeah Tim is fantastic!
@@allisonbergh4429 that is true, but that hasn't stopped George from transcribing improv before
@@allisonbergh4429 dark side definitely has some versions that are more popular like the “awesome version” that floats around youtube - that would be a good source for transcription
If you enjoy Tim, and haven't already, check out Tom Lehrer.
I have SO much respect for anyone who can pull this off. It is extremely difficult. I have sang a few A capella pieces where I was a half step from another part, but never with a full orchestra behind me. WOW!
To pull this off plus slap comedy in-between takes skill levels uncharted - genius.
That was awesome and really original. Never heard of this guy before. Talented as hell and tons of stage presence. Singing and playing is something that is difficult to begin with. Now, intentionally singing in another key outside of what you are playing is on another level. Much respect.
He has so much good stuff. He'd an amazing lyricist.
You've got to watch Tim Minchin play Dark Side (Awesome Version) for more musical brilliance. One of my favourite piano solo journeys ever.
He wrote the music for “Matilda.” He also wrote a “Lullaby” for his baby girl several years ago, which is truly a lament for all new parents and extremely funny.
You have to fight every fiber of your being telling you to get on key when signing out of tune purposefully like this. Pretty impressive.
To sing out of tune on purpose while playing and hearing music in a particular key requires serious concentration and that's why it's only done with one note one-half step higher. It's difficult to do.
This is the best thing I’ve seen all day lmao I love it 😂
He’s talented and funny, but I couldn’t take it when he started singing ‘F shaaaarrrrrppp’! My son used to play all of these off-tempo and off-key covers of various popular songs, to try and get on my nerves, and it always made my skin crawl. This gave me the same immediate gut reaction.
Your son sounds funny, and effective.
@@annafirth6738 oh, he is definitely that!🤣
It's almost as if that was his intent or something.
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Linking Park - Crawling
Every fiber of my being as a musician wanted to die hearing those F#’s but at the same time I loved the performance! That was not easy to do!
It’s painful to listen to in a way, but also enjoyable because of the humor
had such great smile seeing this. Thank you!
This reminds me of Tom Lehrer, the combined skillful piano and singing zany lyrics that tell a story, always with a twist. If you don't know Tom Lehrer, or if you do, he was a Harvard mathematician and piano player/singer who got some fame for tunes like "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park," "The Elements Song," and "We'll All Go Together When We Go." And before that (or at the same time), he did "Silent E" and "L-Y" on The Electric Company. Anyway, great job by Tim Minchin. I didn't realize he was this musically talented. Cheers.
Oh Tom Lehrer very much still *is*.
Did he do _Masochism Tango_ too?
@@massimookissed1023 Sorry for not responding sooner. Yes, that was him. Cheers.
absolute genius
1:04 made me cringe so hard and I love it
same lmfao
Most talented comedian at work currently...he is so effin' sharp
I literally cannot force myself to sing out of key. I accidentally fall somewhere back into key. Seeing someone actually able to do this on command is legit impressive lol
Watching this video has brought back so many memories of me being in music class and our teacher showing us Tim Minchin. Thanks for this George!
Never thought a song could be satisfying and unsatisfying at the same time
why is this guy giving me beetlejuice vibes
This man would soon go on to write 2 successful Broadway musicals based on beloved properties. Tim Michin is a legend.
I didn't know what to expect when I clicked on the video but I'm left sitting here with a smile and even had a chuckle or two. This was brilliant.
Some people dont realize the difficulty of getting that note right after singing in key the whole song.
I'm a musician, I get this! Were all in this together! Yay!
Tim's a real treat.
Funnier than hell, and brutally talented.
His "Mitsubishi Colt" is a masterpiece.
We wrote a song about a Mitsubishi Colt?! Hang on, brb...
Yup, he did. And it's quite amusing!
@@dashcamandy2242 it's actually a nine minute beat poem, cool huh?
Jacob Collier sees no problem in this video
Because there is no problem in this video
This is pretty crazy.
Its like talking into a mic and hearing a slight delay in your voice but continuing to speak normally. Very very difficult.
*This is truly disturbing, amazing but disturbing.*
This just made me realize that the Australian accent is just F#
We are in a Golden Era of information and people and Mr. Collier helps me to realize that constsntly. Thank you from all the musicians in the world, thank you.
Wow, you must be an absolute master to hit those dissonant harmonics perfectly
sound absolutelly horrid and perfect at the same time, also, super hard. Laughed out my coffee tbh.
Funnily enough that last bit is almost exactly what happens to me when trying to sing an F#4 in full voice. My body pretty much says "nope you get F4 or you get falsetto"
Dude, same. F4 and below, perfectly fine. G4 and above, fine as well. F#4? Doesn’t exist
@@pi_xi omg stop making everything about yourself.
@@adfasfuiuiui1056what happened here
for me as a baritone its f4 and e4, and nothing above lol@@IsaacMokChuangXing
i have a very similar problem lol, im a tenor and for some reason my voice just cracks and breaks to pieces on G#3 specifically lmao, sometimes F# and G too, but its not like i have to sing them with the like “head voice” or wtv its called, i can sing them the same as E3 and A3, it just……. wavers in pitch so badly and idk why lmao, it’s funny
That is a really hard song to pull off when you’re singing out of tune on purpose- well done that guy!
I just love the notation above the last note. “Not even f#” 😂😂😂
OMG! This was absolutely brilliant!
Don't know why you're all saying how difficult it is, I can sing an entire song out of tune
😂
"They say English is the toughest language."
"Ah now for me, it's the easiest."
- Norm MacDonald
Can't even imagine how could you take that note against all the orchestra playing in tune
That's the joke, this is a comedy piece.
how's that music genre called? I find it pretty funny to listen to! Especially starting from 0:32 is what I mean
I like to just call it musicomedy!
sounds really similar to polka
@@gorbusjeebusdoes it??
Polka or some type of folk music maybe?
I don't think I've ever been so satisfied with something so painfully unresolved.