W212 OM651 twin turbo upgrade, removing old turbo.

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  • Having fun removing the original turbo from OM651 before upgrading.
    Seriously not having fun, one of the worst turbo installation I have ever worked on.
    The turbo on W212 OM651 is not designed to be removed engine in the car.
    You need angle grinder to do it and removing parts of the turbo which is a big No No considering warranty of the turbo.

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  • @forencitrus7939
    @forencitrus7939 6 місяців тому +1

    This Video made my day 🙂 I am actually trying to remove and change the exhaust-manifold on exactly the same car. It's my wifes car. I started the work about 1 week ago, thinking of an afternoon-job.
    BUT....every single piece you try to remove is offering a new problem. I indeed had to buy new set of ring wrenches to get some screws loose. Really a pain in the a***.
    Luckily I have found your video which makes me know where the bolts are to loose the turbo. Just to get some space to remove the exhaust-manifold.
    All the best for you!!

  • @GregKos1996
    @GregKos1996 9 місяців тому +3

    These engines are really easy to work on..... But only when the engine is out of the car 😂 im here because after replacing turbo i'm left with one bracket and forgot where did it go 😂 thanks for the video

  • @himynameis3584
    @himynameis3584 2 місяці тому +2

    Just for anyone wondering I’ve just done this job on a 2017 c220d exact same set up little differences in certain places but it is NOT a job for amateurs, 9/10 would not recommend.

  • @100pyatt
    @100pyatt 7 місяців тому +1

    I would think a single turbo conversion would be great, using a BW EFR ball bearing turbo and simplifying this tremendously 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @indigoskywalker
    @indigoskywalker Рік тому +3

    Have you decided if you are going to modify borg warner turbos for customers? If it was successful I would happily pay for a custom built turbo exchange

  • @joludwig8405
    @joludwig8405 Рік тому +1

    Hi I like the way of your direct speech in this video! Yes maybe MB did it better in the past. But maybe there was more room to fit thigings in..

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  Рік тому +1

      It's the same with all modern cars, too much emission equipment in the way. Thanks for watching.

  • @darrenl9422
    @darrenl9422 Рік тому +1

    Did you manage to get your car on the dyno yet? Love the work you have done in general (even on your other videos)

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately time have not been on my side. Its on my to do list. most likely this fall, when motorcycle season stops.

  • @benztech5075
    @benztech5075 19 днів тому

    looks like droppping alternator might of helped to get to that oil line

  • @mamAmojj
    @mamAmojj Рік тому

    I have changed the manifold gasket that was leaking from the back. It wasn't as hard as you describe here. Used Alfamer repair book and it explained the right order to remove parts. No need for angle grinder and the bracket that has copper nuts can be removed quite easily as well.

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  Рік тому +3

      Well good for you, you have twin turbo too?

  • @JamesOSullivan-e1z
    @JamesOSullivan-e1z 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi,
    I have just attempted this same job and gave up as I thought I'd hit the limit of my capabilities, seems I was wrong, the only element I couldn't complete was a part you seemed to not complain about,
    The two bolts that hold the oil return pipe onto the block of the engine what tool did you use to remove them and how did you reach them because that was where I had to stop because I couldn't see a feasible way to remove the turbo without first removing those bolts, please can you help me as I've put the car back together but will happily do the work again if it means I can complete the job

  • @Bobby_The_Retrofit_Nerd
    @Bobby_The_Retrofit_Nerd 5 місяців тому

    I found if you remove the dpf you can access them too nuts on the bracket really easily I did the same job on jack stands

  • @michaelschwiete7700
    @michaelschwiete7700 9 місяців тому

    You are always right how did you lose this Bolts??? I got om651 too but it was a dumb engine there we're a boost leak on the right side i tried to fix that but it was absolutely pissing me off so i selled that Car and bought the om642

  • @joefoley4253
    @joefoley4253 Рік тому +2

    Can you please tell me how you got those two bolts at the rear of the manifold off for the EGR? You are right it is a NIGHTMARE !! I am stuck on this an now with no car.

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  Рік тому

      With a spanner, using a larger one as leverage. Can't remember if the bolts where E8 or E10 but just with a suitable closed end spanner. Its very tight squeeze, and if I recall the bolts are non magnetic even so you can't pick them up with it ih they fall.

    • @joefoley4253
      @joefoley4253 Рік тому +1

      @@MJPilote Thanks you for taking the time to reply.

    • @joefoley4253
      @joefoley4253 Рік тому

      I just finished this yesterday and what a nightmare. I am sore all over!! Just to give more pointers
      You dont have to remove the EGR pipe at the end of the exhaust. I managed to pull the manifold out and gold it up with a bungee cord which gave plenty of room. The pipe is a flexy copper one so it will take the bend.
      The bracket onto the alternator is a pane too. I managed to get than on from underneath with hose going into the inter-cooler off and battery disconnected in case it short the alternator wire. It gave me a fright when that sparked!!!
      The oil feed and drain bolts are the hardest to get at. I put the bolt onto the socket and wrapped a bit of tape around it to hold it and fed it trough the turbo. Sounds easy but those 3 bolts took most of the day.
      I have a P0248 error now to sort it seems down in power too.
      Anymore issues its a Honda or Toyota!!

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  Рік тому

      @@joefoley4253 Nice work! I didn’t want to stretch the egr pipe as they can crack. I hope you didn’t burn anything by shorting the alternator.
      Did you check the wastegate hoses are in correct order, and not leaking. Or you have a bad solenoid. Either way its not actuating the wastegate properly.

  • @100pyatt
    @100pyatt 7 місяців тому +1

    This turbo configuration makes no sense for a diesel, it should have been Compound twins instead

  • @transt3
    @transt3 8 місяців тому

    Boa noite, eu trabalho numa empresa onde se reconstroem turbos eu estou na oficina e só tiro turbos e monto turbos e a semana passada trabalhei numa w212 OM651 hibrida é muito complicado, os engenheiros parece que estudaram a maneira de não se conseguir chegar a parafuso nenhum , o esgoto dos turbos é uma dor de cabeça.

  • @shadialhalfi6423
    @shadialhalfi6423 Рік тому

    Man I just did the same turbo today man I hated my job

  • @ajonsson2013
    @ajonsson2013 2 роки тому

    Great video! Would it be easier to remove Turbo if car was lifted do you think?

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  2 роки тому +1

      It wont help much, too much stuff in the way under the engine.

    • @ajonsson2013
      @ajonsson2013 2 роки тому

      @@MJPilote Ok! Do you have WIS? I have not looked in WIS how to remove Turbo but it must be a way to remove without cutting some steel hehe

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  2 роки тому +1

      @@ajonsson2013 yes there is, remove the engine

    • @ajonsson2013
      @ajonsson2013 2 роки тому

      @@MJPilote Jesus 😂😂😂 German Engineering at its finest

    • @paolouchicentofanti8494
      @paolouchicentofanti8494 2 роки тому +1

      You should delete all the dpf egr & swirl flaps. Down pipe on mine made so much more down low torque and throttle response

  • @indigoskywalker
    @indigoskywalker Рік тому

    Hi MJP, have you fitted the turbo now? Really curious how your mods turned out?

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  Рік тому +2

      Turbo is fitted and working very nice, spools instantly. Good power, but I need to dyno it to see how good. Have been really busy with other stuff.

    • @kingyu9839
      @kingyu9839 Рік тому

      Curious hp turn out?

    • @mygoalcrash8077
      @mygoalcrash8077 11 місяців тому

      @@MJPilote did you chip the car? or stock ecu?

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  11 місяців тому

      @@mygoalcrash8077 Yes, my own custom software with bigger injectors. Enough juice to overwhelm the transfer pump, but pulls very strong.

  • @aatupoysti8481
    @aatupoysti8481 Рік тому

    Does the new turbo after installation need some program with computer or is it just ready to go after install

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  Рік тому +2

      It works without modifications but to get most out of the modified turbo it needs more fuel and boost. With 250cdi injectors and a good tune it really picks up nicely.

  • @Killswitch-ON
    @Killswitch-ON Рік тому

    Hi everyone!
    My s212 e220 diesel shows the P0252 fault, (injection pump fuel metering control "A" range/performance (cam rotor injector), it appears often afer 1 hour driving, mostly when accelerating from 120-130 kmh. Last diagnosis i made it showed even a pending fault P0299 low turbo pressure. Are these foults related to each other. Any thoughts/ advice ?

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  Рік тому +1

      Just saw your post, change the fuel metering valve at the HP pump, they are known to go bad and causing all sorts of trouble.

    • @Killswitch-ON
      @Killswitch-ON Рік тому

      @@MJPilote Thanx mate 🙏

    • @performancejunky3258
      @performancejunky3258 10 місяців тому

      Hi guys, would a faulty fuel valve cause low boost p0299 ?
      I have low boost fault on my Vito w447 Om651

    • @MJPilote
      @MJPilote  10 місяців тому +1

      @@performancejunky3258 boost leak, front two manifold bolts broken, or intake cracked are the most common. Least common, split intercooler pipe.

    • @performancejunky3258
      @performancejunky3258 10 місяців тому

      @@MJPilote Thanks for reply, I have done a smoke test with no obvious leaks, no leaks around manifold or intercooler have changed both boost solenoids inc cross over valves
      Still no difference, codes I get are P0299/P00C400/P2261
      Really confused.

  • @alilion5772
    @alilion5772 9 місяців тому

    zeig das auch wie du wieder zusammen baust

  • @NemtorYT
    @NemtorYT 6 місяців тому +1

    Ur just bad
    2.5hoour of work to remove turbo
    Easy if you know what your doing
    Don't blame design of the engine

    • @rossiwilton
      @rossiwilton 3 місяці тому +1

      Have you actually removed a set of turbo's from this model of car ?

  • @spacewizard69r96
    @spacewizard69r96 Рік тому

    Lmaooo