I'm a Frigate main, but I found the Interceptors were just too dang slow at clearing higher tier encounters. So I side stepped into the Amarr cruisers just for some solo play options. Omen Trainer > Omen > Maller is a great path for Alpha players. They all feed off basic skills, and the Maller is a direct upgrade of the Omen. Better even, if you ONLY have basic skills because your focus is elsewhere. I've been able to do the T7 rare encounters and T6 Stories (Barely) in the Omen, and pretty comfortably in the Maller. ONI I'm sure is superior for range kiting IF you're a omega cruiser main, but I thought I'd present an alternate route.
Watching this again as I'm mostly a PVP frigate pilot, but I have been doing a lot of cruiser PVE lately and AFK story missions. The ONI is my go to and currently it kicks ass and is insured at half a billion.
The Omen is a surprisingly fun ship to fly, and you can even shield tank it if that's the way you roll, or fit medium rapids to it and tank with no cap use.. I think its a very versatile ship perhaps more so than the maller which really needs an extra mid slot for fitting scramblers in
I skipped it for the mauller but now I’m tempted to double back and give it try edit: Tried omen navy and sadly... my engineering skills not high enough for either oversized options yet with that nice base powergrid, nor the cap to support rep and the attack rate of that thing. Ended up back in mauler for time being. Maybe one day I’ll have the skill to make a good omen navy fit work but it seems to take alot more than expected compared to mauler.
I have a similar stabber FI build. I do mainmatar t8 storylines on this ship solo. Max ship speed with AB 1080 m/s and signature radius 86.4 (smaller then talwar assault with mwd) Top: Autocannons Mid: 2 nosferatus; 1 web Low: AB; shield hardner; shield booster; gyrostab Rigs: EM and termal resistance; 10% Velosity bonus, cap
Fed Navy Beams (surprisingly cheap!), Dual Web, One Nos, Hammerhead Drone (to help bring up the armor damage), Smuggler Med AB, Fed Navy Heat Sink, Pilfer or Fed Navy Reactive (missions are generally one or two damage types), Gorget Medium Rep. Rigs 2 dps rigs, I prefer dual collision to reduce cap drain, and 2 Warp Core Stabiliser Rigs. After losing one Nomen on a story mission to tackle frigs, start slacking off on your attention to incoming elite frigs and your pants can get pulled down, this way you can still escape if needed and useful if in 0.0. Sit at 20-30km range for all missions apart from mainline story. Pew Pew Pew. Story missions you need to kite but it is still easy mode. Handles the quaife story with ease if paying attention. Focus the elites and the rest is easy. Would switch repper to plate for fleet pvp and reactive to adaptive to account for differing damage types.
Probably don't need to request this since the ferox is a pretty obvious ship that I'm sure you'll get to but I would love to see that thing do some face tanking. Sort of a "I'm going to sit here and you try to pound me as best you can and I won't feel a thing" build Which now that I think about it is what one of my old high school girlfriends always used to say....
can you do a fitment video for the maller guardian? Like I want to know how much going faster helps? Do you mitigate more damage using an afterburner? Do you take even less damage if you go to beams instead of pulse and is keeping range worth not having usable nosferatu? laser ships are a bit cap hungry so I have been running two adaptives, 2 knight medium repairs and a battery cap. Mainly serve as just a tank so dps does not matter at all, im just there to soak up t10 elite damage. Currently this works but my capacity isn't amazing even with 5/4/0 skills because of the drains some elites and other ships have in fights. Does using bean weapons and having that extra range solve being drained? What can do change up to be a more effective tank? I have been able to face tank 6 battleships t10 but I feel like I can improve and take even less damage. I have the maller as well but the extra rig slots are a huge help. random stats ehp 26262 with 6206 armor and resistances based on enemies for 1 rig and 2 on better healing from rep. speed is 349.77 m/s with no afterburner and a signature radius of 99
Ahoy captain! Are these builds suitable for pvp? I mean i dont purposely want to kill other players but in case im being attacked by pirates i want to be able to warp away or atleast punish them for their mistakes. Anyway, great informative video.
I've played a game that have almost similar ship witj this, if u ever play "nexus:the jupiter incident" u'll find the ship almost identical with omen, but its simetrical ship, lol..
Nice overall structure and info on the video. This is one of my favorite ships, together with the coercer NI. Just one point of critique/clarification? It's on the speed of the Omen compared to the destroyers. Just looking at the speed alone, yes the omen is faster than some destroyers. But it's also a lot heavier so has way bigger inertia, which means it takes longer to get to max speed, and orbit speeds at the same distance will be a lot lower. So yes the Omen is relatively fast, but still handles like a cruiser, whereas a Talwar Assault will be much nimbler and faster in practice due to faster acceleration. Both the Talwar Assault as the Omen NI have the same max speed, but since the Talwar gets to max speed faster, It can still dictate its range on the Omen.
@John mark Ogayon you're neglecting the warp signature reduction bonus. If you even know what that means for application of the MWD. I'm not only talking speed, however you are right, if only considering speed.
@John mark Ogayon omen NI and maller are the same t6. Noticable difference in dps you will see only at high adv.cruiser skill, which almost no one has.
I'm a Frigate main, but I found the Interceptors were just too dang slow at clearing higher tier encounters.
So I side stepped into the Amarr cruisers just for some solo play options. Omen Trainer > Omen > Maller is a great path for Alpha players.
They all feed off basic skills, and the Maller is a direct upgrade of the Omen. Better even, if you ONLY have basic skills because your focus is elsewhere.
I've been able to do the T7 rare encounters and T6 Stories (Barely) in the Omen, and pretty comfortably in the Maller. ONI I'm sure is superior for range kiting IF you're a omega cruiser main, but I thought I'd present an alternate route.
You cant range kite with lasers till they make optimal boost rigs.
@@50z10p47 35km cold will get you through rare encounters and T6 stories solo, even with the basic skills.
@@DrThrax4 oh, t6 stories t7 encounters... Sure. But t8 vs long range npc will be huge pain in arse) wanna try ONI shieldtank brawler for this
Watching this again as I'm mostly a PVP frigate pilot, but I have been doing a lot of cruiser PVE lately and AFK story missions. The ONI is my go to and currently it kicks ass and is insured at half a billion.
The Omen is a surprisingly fun ship to fly, and you can even shield tank it if that's the way you roll, or fit medium rapids to it and tank with no cap use.. I think its a very versatile ship perhaps more so than the maller which really needs an extra mid slot for fitting scramblers in
lol no wonder why i woke up and prices had spiked. Been flying one for a while. Love them.
wow, amazed u are making my underrated war ship video. all people was goin to stabber sniper rn and u making this haha
Thanks you! She is slept on with skills she is so deadly
hello goddes
@@RizkyFuziawan LMAO WHY U HERE
One of the strengths of a ship like this is like 80% of players are in shield tank ships with 0% em resistance
haha true
One of weaknesses of laser ship in this game - you have rigs for boost your falloff =(
@@50z10p47 Or just fit a MWD and dictate your range, but I agree. Cannon ships are most powerful for this
Drop the heatsinks on the brawler build and add a 2nd armor rep, you can pretty much face tank anoms. Not like in a maller, but pretty close
I grew up in the Omen Trainer. I will ALWAYS use Omens
I skipped it for the mauller but now I’m tempted to double back and give it try
edit: Tried omen navy and sadly... my engineering skills not high enough for either oversized options yet with that nice base powergrid, nor the cap to support rep and the attack rate of that thing. Ended up back in mauler for time being. Maybe one day I’ll have the skill to make a good omen navy fit work but it seems to take alot more than expected compared to mauler.
I have a similar stabber FI build. I do mainmatar t8 storylines on this ship solo.
Max ship speed with AB 1080 m/s and signature radius 86.4 (smaller then talwar assault with mwd)
Top: Autocannons
Mid: 2 nosferatus; 1 web
Low: AB; shield hardner; shield booster; gyrostab
Rigs: EM and termal resistance; 10% Velosity bonus, cap
Fed Navy Beams (surprisingly cheap!), Dual Web, One Nos, Hammerhead Drone (to help bring up the armor damage), Smuggler Med AB, Fed Navy Heat Sink, Pilfer or Fed Navy Reactive (missions are generally one or two damage types), Gorget Medium Rep. Rigs 2 dps rigs, I prefer dual collision to reduce cap drain, and 2 Warp Core Stabiliser Rigs. After losing one Nomen on a story mission to tackle frigs, start slacking off on your attention to incoming elite frigs and your pants can get pulled down, this way you can still escape if needed and useful if in 0.0. Sit at 20-30km range for all missions apart from mainline story. Pew Pew Pew. Story missions you need to kite but it is still easy mode. Handles the quaife story with ease if paying attention. Focus the elites and the rest is easy.
Would switch repper to plate for fleet pvp and reactive to adaptive to account for differing damage types.
This is my main base defender I love this monster it annihilates caldari and minmatar shields
I always wanted u to cover this ship
Since you made so much amarr ships, including the omen navy issue, maybe we could have a stabber fleet issue? For the glory of the minmatar republic!
He has tons of vids on minmatar ships just look through his list. I know for sure since he started minmatar.
@@a.i.w.a191 ...did i say he don't have video on minmatar ship somewhere?
Minmatar🤢
Did you already do omen sniper video?
Probably don't need to request this since the ferox is a pretty obvious ship that I'm sure you'll get to but I would love to see that thing do some face tanking. Sort of a "I'm going to sit here and you try to pound me as best you can and I won't feel a thing" build
Which now that I think about it is what one of my old high school girlfriends always used to say....
can you do a fitment video for the maller guardian? Like I want to know how much going faster helps? Do you mitigate more damage using an afterburner? Do you take even less damage if you go to beams instead of pulse and is keeping range worth not having usable nosferatu? laser ships are a bit cap hungry so I have been running two adaptives, 2 knight medium repairs and a battery cap. Mainly serve as just a tank so dps does not matter at all, im just there to soak up t10 elite damage. Currently this works but my capacity isn't amazing even with 5/4/0 skills because of the drains some elites and other ships have in fights. Does using bean weapons and having that extra range solve being drained? What can do change up to be a more effective tank? I have been able to face tank 6 battleships t10 but I feel like I can improve and take even less damage. I have the maller as well but the extra rig slots are a huge help.
random stats ehp 26262 with 6206 armor and resistances based on enemies for 1 rig and 2 on better healing from rep. speed is 349.77 m/s with no afterburner and a signature radius of 99
Ahoy captain! Are these builds suitable for pvp? I mean i dont purposely want to kill other players but in case im being attacked by pirates i want to be able to warp away or atleast punish them for their mistakes. Anyway, great informative video.
would there be any benefit in replacing one Web with a Target Painter ?
I've played a game that have almost similar ship witj this, if u ever play "nexus:the jupiter incident" u'll find the ship almost identical with omen, but its simetrical ship, lol..
I loved that game. Need to replay one day
Yea bro, one of my fav game all time, still have it till now..
wo, been awhile but awesome game
Captain Benzie, you should do video to go over fleet organization for pvp and pve
@John mark Ogayon going to go check it out now
Captain Benzie I was trying to find the catskull cartel but I couldn't find it in the corporation tab. How do you get to it?
It's literally called ONI I can't even---
Nice overall structure and info on the video. This is one of my favorite ships, together with the coercer NI. Just one point of critique/clarification?
It's on the speed of the Omen compared to the destroyers. Just looking at the speed alone, yes the omen is faster than some destroyers. But it's also a lot heavier so has way bigger inertia, which means it takes longer to get to max speed, and orbit speeds at the same distance will be a lot lower. So yes the Omen is relatively fast, but still handles like a cruiser, whereas a Talwar Assault will be much nimbler and faster in practice due to faster acceleration.
Both the Talwar Assault as the Omen NI have the same max speed, but since the Talwar gets to max speed faster, It can still dictate its range on the Omen.
i so much wanted to give you patreon money. but i guess if Boudicca and Djouser manages to notice you!! i guess you'll be pretty comfortable on life.
more laser skills and this thing's is gonna be more broken. I average at around 1500 per volley even on armor with imp navy pulses on this thing.
play with the CNI, 1800 per hit for shield and armor, plus I can get it going 860 m/s
@@davidcaldwell6651 What is CNI?
@@syedyasir7419 Caracal Navy Issue
Ahoy there Captan Bennie!
Which one should I get..omen Navy issue or Moa?? For pve specific
@@captainbenzie I'll check out the video and think about which one I should get...or I'll get both XD
Can I fit the Omen Sniper like the Omen Navy
Shields on an armor tanked ship was totally a thing in eo. I don't think I ever armor tanked my vni and I had both armor and shield skills.
If you fit full tank low slot and rigs you can do easily T10 anoms. Take better guns to get the same dmg.
where do you find t10 anoms, I've never seen one?
The talwar has is a MWD ship. Can't really compare speeds the way you did on these. o7
@John mark Ogayon you're neglecting the warp signature reduction bonus. If you even know what that means for application of the MWD. I'm not only talking speed, however you are right, if only considering speed.
nice guide o7
Hey Benzie if a Powerful Corp (The Sith) would like apply for alliance where would we go to?
the omen is a demon, is this a movie references? XD
Well, *ONI* means demon tho 🤣
@@dedyarief996 frfr
For Amarr !!
Venture II just got destroyed by one of these lol
@@gelertgames i don't think it was him because it was not his account lol
hey can i delete one of my account that im not interested to fly?
SFI, when ?
Stabber fleet issue
I can buy omen navy issue
But i cant use it bruh
I shall always use this word now - humongous
lets see pvp. pvp ships, pvp builds , pvp tactics
Cap, I would love to see a pvp fit for cni
Rapids, balcon, mwd, large shieldbooster, capbooster, 2 warp scramblers
Maller is way better than this omen almost in every aspect
Maller only has two mids for scrambling though
@John mark Ogayon omen NI and maller are the same t6. Noticable difference in dps you will see only at high adv.cruiser skill, which almost no one has.
Agree. I think I actually get more DPS in my maller thanks to the role bonuses
pfft you with your little ships.. my 50k def 620 dps cyclone is not impressed ^.^
Lmao u are a mind reader I just bought this ship😂😂
o7
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