Bad Roofing Salesman
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2024
- Bad Roofing Salesman, the salesman that came out to give this homeowner a roof estimate was trying to up sell so bad he was charging for things they didn't have!
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This guy sounds real pompous bashing everything while coming off like he’s mr perfect Lol
It's funny when I get comments like these! When people miss the point of the video, like another contractor trying to steal from them! I guess that's totally okay though to tell them they have 10 layers and charge $100,000 or something ridiculous when it's clearly one. And to bring light of the previous roofer that installed things wrong and caused leaks. But I'm a pompous bashing mr. Perfect LOL
@@GrandRoofingInc whatever. I’ve been a roofing contractor for over 30 years and never felt the need to go off snitching on other contractors. If the customer is that gullible to fall for that then that’s their own fault
Wow, so you're just like one of those guys I'm referring to! Never said anything about snitching, just told the homeowner it was one layer. Sounds like you'll take advantage of anyone in a heartbeat. Were you the one that previously bid this? I guess being a scammer is better than being truthful.
@@GrandRoofingInc nice try. I said before I never felt the need to run out and tell on everyone because I was focused on my own work. I am licensed to install any product on the commercial market with 20 year no dollar limit guarantee.
Good for you! You're the one that said "If the customer is that gullible to fall for that then that's their fault!" You said, this guy sounds real pompous bashing while coming off like he's mr. Perfect. Then you just did the same thing. 👍
Keep in mind my man, a lot of salesmen think the starter is another layer. Not joking, just people selling roofs who have never held a hammer
The problem is that not all good roofers are good salesmen, and most good salesmen aren’t good roofers.
@@huejanus5505 right you are my friend 👍
The exact reason why as a salesman I have all my salesmen help on their first install. I just had my newest trainee help me put a roof on for this elderly woman who couldn’t afford a new roof. So we did it for free. Tiny little trailer roof, but I promise you that kid will never treat our install crews like shit. Ever. Not after that experience!!
Agreed Aaron, I've seen adjusters same way lol
@@huejanus5505 true true true
Dude please keep these video coming, you’re helping me out so much!
Keep it Honest. Keep it going. You are helping many people.
I worked as a production manager for a "restoration" type roofing company for a while. It was all geared around sales, no training whatsoever, and most of the sales people were former car sales people or B2B sales people. My first 6 months was just trying to get a handle on what the sales people were promising customers. It was a nightmare. The light tubes are pretty easy to install, I've done quite a few of them. And I saw one comment on the traditional skylights saying they should always be replaced, that is absolutely not true. The units on that roof are Velux brand, and I have worked with their field reps many times. As long as they are installed properly and the glass seals are in good shape, they can be left in place for decades. If the flashing is damaged during a re roof, Velux has flashing kits for every model they've ever made. I simply love your channel!
Thanks
I'm 17 and I'm learning so much from your videos. Keep it going my guy!!!
You sir are a very professional master roofer.
Your a good dude I can tell! Keep up the great work my friend!
Thanks, will do!
Your videos are very informative, thanks for sharing! Stay safe.
Really like your videos mate. I do Commercial, metal roofing (only been in the game a couple of years), but although I've never touched shingles, really enjoy your videos, very informative. Keep up the good work👍
I'd use a mod bit SA on that low slope.
In reality you never install old skylights on a new roof so he was correct on that.
Am I the only one impressed with how tight they were able to cut those shingles around the suntunnels? Completely wrong, yes, but that dude had the world’s sharpest hook blade
I learned a long time ago to check in the middle of the roof for the second layer, some companies when the add second layer will remove bottom shingles and at gables
Yes I've seen that too, that's why I always try to lift up the edge metal and look under. Sometimes they're just cut to the bottom of the edge and sometimes they are completely remove like you're saying. Thanks for commenting on that I forgot to mention that in the video.
When I was roofing in my younger days I worked for a company that would just go ahead and trim the trees for the home owner at no charge. It makes it easier to roof that section and it looks good for the reference.
You should sell online consulting services....such as reviewing quotes, reviewing roof quality. I trust your opinion hell of a lot more than the roofing salesmen in my area
Thank you I appreciate that. I know exactly what you're talkin about though, there's a lot of salesman just south of Kokomo. Never roofed a day in their life but they will sell anything to make a buck. The more they charge and the less they pay the more they stuff their pocket. There are good roofers out there but they're getting harder and harder to find.
So you saw three tab under architectural and that’s not two layers? Lotta installers will cut back a few feet so you can’t tell. Best way is to check amount of nails in the attic....
It looked to be a three tab shingle cut as starter. Only one layer of shingles.
Was watching this and another video, and noticed you had the Malarkey brand on your hoodie. Is there any general recommendations you have on products for roofing? I was just wondering if things like flashing (aluminum parts, etc), shingles, paper products that you generally recommend?
Yeah that’s a Richards supply hoodie, Richards supply or ABC supply. That’s the only 2 supply houses for roofing and guttering I would recommend
I worked for a paint company once, and was always moral. There was a salesman there that would walk around the back of the house, and rip a piece of wood off the house, then take it to the lady of the house and show it to her and tell her if she didn't get the house painted soon it was falling apart, blah blah blah. Now you know as well as I do you can find a little piece of bad cornerboard somewhere, he would play it up and over estimate what needed to be done, scare the hell out of the lady to where that night she's telling her Husband they have to repaint it immediately, etc. The guy sold 3 times more paint jobs than anybody else in the business.
No morals. It's a shame. A lot of automotive places use scare tactics too. One time when I was. Kid some automotive placed quoted my step dad some work. He had my mom drop it off and they tried to charge her a lot more money because she was a women. Funny thing my step dad was a crazy ex marine body builder that went down to that shop and threatened to beat that guys ass. My poor mom was so upset. She was crying because what they were trying to charge her. Tricks on those assholes
Just had shingles replaced in April and I noticed decking is kind of buckled. Had company come out and said it from the house settling ,said room is fine . Any thoughts?
Buckling decking isn't typically from the house settling. If the house was settling you would notice other issues like a drywall plaster cracking inside first. Sounds like it could be possibly be a piece of loose decking or something heating with moisture causing it to buckle. If you can get a picture of it and email it over to one of the emails you can find on the about page and I'll look at it.
Ether way idc I love watch u have been watching u ever since u came out ur a good roofer
love your videos...have subscribed to you...and have only done a handful of roofs...but from day one I was taught proper...if that is the right terminology....Just sayin that people need to vet their contractors or do a lot of researchers...
100 years at least people been putting up roofs and most companies still dont do it right either on purpose or just straight idiots
I never seen them skylights in my life but seen trailer ones that have a tape instead of step flashing peices that usually seen on trailers that are prity scary
LOL I watch these when I’m feeling OCD
Thanks for this! Learning a lot from your channel. Come replace my roof here in GA!
Thanks! That's a bit of a drive, would love to but sorry.
Are you looking at doing it yourself?
@@GrandRoofingInc I wish I could, but that would take me a while. I patched a few holes by replacing shingles on my ridge cap and fixed a boot leak with a perma-boot. imgur.com/gallery/TEoOLc1 imgur.com/gallery/U3v7VOf
First quote I got said I have a couple years max on my roof. Hopefully I have longer, but I found another leak at my furnace pipe. Hopefully I can patch that myself soon
Great Video👍🏻
LAST VIDEO PHONE WITH PITCH GAGE HAD THREE DIFFERENT READING HELD IN SAME AREA
Got to tell this one to my roofing friends .I'm heading out on my vacation day today to lay a porch roof with pvc for free to a man with cancer .it's a old material ill make do with that he had given to him called Cooley. Only one seam to heet weld and two walls and inside corner but 45 min travel .the feeling of doing something for someone worth more than money
Maybe you should show what a Great Roof Job Looks Like that way people can see a Great Roofing Job.
Sales guys need to study and be hands on some tear offs and look at the work that is done. Then they will respects the crews.
Single Layer? Double Layer? Tell me more.....
Sometimes people tear off the bottom first row
If you want a job done right you have to do it yourself. Unfortunately I've found this to be true more often then not lol. I mean there are exceptions where someone can just totally jack up their entire roof but with a little common sense it's not a hard task really. I plan to do all my roofs myself having some amateur experience in the past and about to install a new roof on the timber frame I just built. Im a one man band don't need no contractors to mess my stuff up. I can mess my stuff up on my own thank you very much and it's only my labor I'm losing lol 😂😂😂.
Talk about erie metal roofing!
For the life of me, I will never figure out why anyone in their right mind would ever grow a tree or let one grow up against their house!
It's mind blowing full on stupidity.
We're constantly having to meet with our salesmen about missed things that we have to eat, or promising too much.
Fortunately the company I work for always does the right thing by the homeowner.
With that said, ridge vent is part of the insulation system and not a part of the roof ventilation system.
In order for ridge vent to work properly, baffles are installed from the eaves to the ridge and insulation is then installed in-between the rafters causing a continuous cushion of air in-between the roof decking and the insulation because air is a poor heat/cold conductor.
So if your insulation system is installed correctly, the attic space should stay at a relative temperature to the interior regardless of the weather conditions outside.
Your videos are awesome, teaching homeowners what to expect and hopefully inspiring a younger generation to try the trades which can be a very lucrative career, and currently the median age for the trade is 45, so keep inspiring.👍
Thanks 🙈🙉🙊
Ridge vent IS part of the ventilation system. It's really too bad you don't know what you are talking about when you so obviously work on the roof. Must be a helper.
@@SomeDumUsrName I don't like arguing so I'll advise you to please read what ridge vent is and what it is a part of.
I've been doing this work since 1987, I take what I do seriously. I went to school for carpentry. I was a union carpenter and a union roofer. I've gotten certified by almost every manufacturer for installation of their products.
Ridge vent is part of a system, not a stand alone product. It is supposed to be used in conjunction with baffles that extend from the eaves to the peak and are placed in-between the rafters, you are then supposed to install insulation atop those baffles in-between the rafters making sure to not block the eaves, the eaves must have a specific minimum of ventilation (there is a mathematical formula to determine the amount in respect to the area). When this system is complete, it creates an air gap between the roof decking and the Attic. Air is your best insulator because it is a poor conductor.
If you want or need detailed instructions on how to install this system, every ridge vent manufacturer provides PDFs so that you can learn how to be a roofer and not a shingle 🐒 monkey.
I understand that you thought you were being clever 🤭 with your attempt at being demeaning, but you did show who should still be a gopher until you can become a roofer.
Thanks 🙈🙉🙊
@@eddiegreg7064 All that and you still don't realize........ Insulation insulates and venting VENTS. Those not stuck in a box know that insulation on the backside of a roof deck is NOT a requirement for the use of ridge vent. You see, ridge vent can be purchased SEPARATELY from insulation and, in the ABSENCE of said insulation, and matched with the proper amount of air-entry points, will STILL vent; even without the baffles. Almost as if it does it's OWN thing: Like VENT. No amount of manufacturer babble or manufacturer "certifications" will change the FACT that a vent is not "insulation:" It is a VENT. SMH!
@@SomeDumUsrName Either your a troll, or just willfully ignorant.
I didn't say that you couldn't use "ridge vent" as static ventilation, I pointed out that it's original purpose is a part, 1 part to an insulation system.
It was not meant to be used as static ventilation.
See, air is a fluid, and when you have ventilated eaves and an open space between that and the ridge, you create a very inefficient circulatory system because everytime the pressure changes, the flow of that fluid changes, creating eddie's.
Please just call the manufacturer, or learn simple physics and fluid dynamics before you answer again.
See, I also went to school for drafting and engineering, so please stop acting like you know something that you absolutely have no understanding of, because some guy told you it was a stand alone static vent.
Let's see how much you know,
I have a 4/12 pitch gable roof with equal sides. My eaves are 40' long with 2' overhangs, how much ventilation do I need?🧐🤔
Thanks 🙈🙉🙊
@@eddiegreg7064 Ridge vent in the "system" to which you refer is STILL a "static" vent. So, even in the "system," it's STILL "static" ventilation. And, if you were so engineering savvy, you'd realize the deficiency of your question. Hell, it doesn't even take an engineer. Just basic math skills. You can't calculate the area of a triangle simply by knowing the angles of 2 sides with relation to each other. You have to know the LENGTH of the third side. And NO that is NOT the 40' eaves you refer to which are parallel to the ridge.
You no snow yet cool
I will try to video it
Do you Door Knock?
No I have not, probably should though.
Im willing to bet that roof has 2 layers
What makes you think it's two layers?
@jess glasgow lol definitely not
I'm doing my first flip house. I have several rentals. I'm in the midwest. The roof is at least 20 years old. Put on in the mid 80's per pervious owner. It's a small 10 sq roof. Of course I'm trying to cut cost, so I considering adding a layer on top of the previous layer. As far as resale value, do you know if I should tear off and redo, or add a layer to save cost? What is your experience with investors.
Always tear off the old roof. If the company offers to shingle over an existing roof don't hire them.
Never add a roof over! I know firsthand not just working for investors but owning rentals myself! Don't kick the can down the road, just replace it right the first time. It will never look good, it screams I'm cheap and what else are you hiding. On top of the roof not looking good the new roof will have a shorter life span. More importantly it will cost a lot more down the road at a higher labor cost.
Its allowed in some places some states but it will always be frowned upon. Not a good practice. I'm bought my house 5 years ago and it has a roof over with a metal roof. Supposedly done by a reputable company. Yeah it's got big time issue and looks like it was half assed installed. That's going to be a fun project lol. I don't plan to hire anyone either.
@@MadMetalShop it's not even about it being allowed in certain states or being frowned upon. I myself carry out a 10 year labor warranty on all work and that's on top of the manufacturer warranty while my competition only offers labor warranty if they resheet the roof.. The only way I can do that is if I do the job right the first time and in this case you don't need to be a professional. Were talking about ripping a roof, Isn't that what hiring labor guys is for?
@@MadMetalShop atleast in your case if you got metal and they layed strapping for fasteners you should be good depending on the ventilation.
That roof looks like dogshit...
30 square max
Show me your job
How old you you I have a big experience don't bullship
I'm 37
The one you say is done correctly it’s totally not done correctly you have no idea you should never shingle over that bottom flange ever
Specially when you’re in a colder climate where you get ice dams
It’s not personal preference it’s the way it supposed to be done people watching his video don’t hire this clown either because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about
The thing that is done wrong is nailing the flange down to the roof and Roofing over it. That is totally wrong. You want to tuck shingles under the flange as I said in the video. You can have some exposed or not, just need to make sure shingles are tucked under it.
@@GrandRoofingInc Get in the habit of selling the forever pipe boot to get away from those bullshit pipe boots that are only good for five years and come back to haunt you and explain that to your customers you can see the pipe boots on and particular roof how they will dry out and crack, my biggest argument with my supplier is a roof shingles guaranteed for 30 years of pipe boots guaranteed for five what’s the point
What pipe boots do you use lead ones?
does he make is money from youtube or actually roofing? lol
If I made good money from UA-cam I wouldn't be Roofing.
@@GrandRoofingInc lol good point!
woof
I’m at 35k new roof with new skylights. 📝
Don't use google to measure your jobs itll fuck you just climb up there and measure