I think chrollo using that many abilities and saying it’s the most he’s ever used is proof that hisoka base is stronger than chrollo himself. But it’s a paradox because his ability is to steal others abilities in itself so he’s in his own rights to get however many for any fight, we just know that this one is the one he uses the most…Togashi got us ❤in a dead even tie 😂 He let a dream fight happen, and we still debate on who won when someone died 😂😂😂 cause it’s hxh!!!
It's proof of nothing. His prep is only a testament of his mindfulness and character. He let nothing to chance. The fight was completely one sided. I still see Chrollo winning in a normal fight but with high diff
@@Y-JA if hisoka would’ve fought chrollo without a year of prep sting York new, hisoka wins and I don’t think it’s a debate. Chrollo won because of his preparation.
@@Racoons4Change A total of 0 hints that Hisoka would've won were given by the author. Hisoka die hard fans taking their wishes for reality is all there is to it. You would've been right in your statement if there was some diff to the fight but that was the most one side fight of all major ones in HxH. Again. No hint at all that Hisoka would've won if Chrollo fought him without that added prep time. What would've happened without the prep time is that there would be diff to the fight and some degree of uncertainty, meaning that it would've not been so one sided. Any speculation beyond that is the product of your own imagination.
@@Y-JA chrollo said in their fight that it’s the most abilities he’d ever used in a fight, and it took him a year to devise a plan to beat a clown with bungee gum. That’s all you need to know about what it took to beat hisoka. With no plan, the odds are in hisokas favor. He’s not the type to have ever given people time to get ready for him, he’s always created the playing field.
@@Racoons4Change Wrong again. Your reasoning is terribly fallacious. The fact that Chrollo with the 4 skills he used in that fight and his prep time ensured a 100% win rate and an easy fight against Hisoka doesn't allude at him losing if that was not the case. It only tells us that the fight would've been less one sided and harder, more balanced. As for the motivations of Chrollo to do as he did, you fail to factor in the intelligence and mindfulness of the guy. He's simply not a gambler and risk taker like Hisoka is. Him wanting to ensure without the beginning of a doubt that he would burry Hisoka here and there doesn't mean he didn't already have the skills to give him solid chances of winning that fight. Chrollo is the polar opposite of Hisoka in that aspect. He doesn't play around and will follow the path that maximizes his chances of having the upper hand rather than the most exciting one. Notice that I'm not claiming that Chrollo would've definitely won if the fight had happened in the yorkshin city arc either. I'm saying we currently have 0 indication on how it would've turned out. As for Hisoka, we've seen some of his strength but nothing otherworldly either. Who's the strongest person he defeated? What's his most impressive feat? What did he achieve during his fight against Chrollo but suffer and die? Did he even land a single punch on Chrollo? What skill of Hisoka makes you think that he would've definitely won? I don't understand. Forget about Chrollo. I give Feitan, Phinx and Uvoguine solid chanced against him, at least, against the hisoka before the post mortem nen bump.
Tbh Hisoka isn't far off from the royals Hisokas AP: His AP should be above the mid to high tiers of the zodiacs, to which puts him above the extermination squad, and it's stated knuckle is relative to kite in physicality To which, the zodicas are stated to be capable of sparring netero (likely martial arts) thus putting him in a sub relative to relative tier to netero, which is further supported by the fact Zeno is able to spar neteto, and be sub relative at minimum, and Hisoka, scales above Zeno, by scaling directly to Chrollo, with Hisoka having an edge in physicality. On top of this current Hisoka has access to post Mortem nen, which in theory should increase strength similarly to the base buff of first attaining nen, since pitou went from inferior to Adult gon, to capable of 1 shotting him, thus making it at minimum a 3x multiplier likely more (but a baseline of relative increase) thus putting Hisoka is the same tier has netero (without hatsu) Hisoka speed: Hisoka should be relative if not higher than chrollo, do to him being able to react to Chrollo. He should also be around pitous speed, since kite is able to react to pitou, and kite is physically on par with pitou, and Hisoka is at minimum 2 echelons higher than him, essentially meaning he can likely keep up with a series non supressed pitou. Abilities: Hisoka is currently able to: regenerate with bungee gum, create limbs with higher durability and more versatility and even revive himself in certain circumstances, and he's nen efficient; using little nen reserves when in battle Intelligence and ingenuity: Hisoka is able to adapt similarly if not better than how Gon can adapt, and Gon is shown to be more resourceful than most characters we've seen. He's also above Kuraprika in Intelligence, with him rivaling Chrollo, being able to create and master techniques and abilities upon learning (which rivals current knowledge ging) to which puts him in a top 10 IQ in the series, but arguable if the gaurd is above those characters or not Overall: AP: A tier Speed: A tier Abilities: S tier IQ: S tier Overall: Sub relative Royal gaurd level
This is a horrendous take and an even worse justification. - Prove Hisoka scales above Zeno. -Prove Hisoka is faster than Chrollo - Kite was reacting to a Pitou with zero clue on Nen abilities, that's not even comparable 😂 Hisoka is strong but everything here you provided is either farfetched or js straight wrong.
I don’t think there’s anyone in the current serious that can beat him. Maybe Ging. Maybe Pariston. But at this point who really knows. That post mortem is completely new territory
Some correction, Silva did use a nen ability to kill cheetu. You csn literally see his arm turn back from purple color. Which is his nen ability's color. Also i doubt hisoka pre death was stronger than dragon from the zodiacs but idk. Even post nen sounds like equal to him. I mean check dragons information. Analyze his positions and achievements and role in the hunter world. He seems to be one of the strongest nen users we'll meet
The manga looks like Silva just did a regular punch I think the purple effect in the anime could just be indicating his aura rather than his nen ability specifically. You’re right about Botobai he could be stronger than Hisoka but the statement about him being closest to the Chairman is vague imo. He could arguably be stronger than Ging but that’s why I said “most of the zodiacs” just to account for possible unknowns.
Great video, however I would note that Hisoka’s “stats” for the zodiac don’t really mean much other than he sees them as strong fighters. In the series of Hunter Hunter it’s very clear throughout the show that no one can truly tell how strong their opponent is, it’s a major factor in many battles in the show. Hisoka even challenged Netero, which is safe to say Hisoka would get obliterated in mere seconds if they fought seriously. Other than Hisoka post Mortem nen I think that many many fighters in the show could defeat Hisoka.
the fact that you say this means the video went right over your head. hisoka is never wrong & has been shown to be used as not only a measure of strength , but a measure of personality & nen catagory. with that being stated, you really think his analysis of the zodiacs was wrong ? & him wanting to fight netero wasn’t simply because he thought he would win. hisoka is someone that likes to fights opponents of equal strength or STRONGER. he’s like a worrior that doesn’t care if he dies in battle as long as it was against a worthy opponent. which is why people say chrollo cheated in his fight againt hisoka. bc 1. hisoka is never wrong & during that fight, he was wrong. 2. like stated before, he doesn’t care if he dies but he did this time because soemthing was off but he didn’t explain what was off.
Many? Maybe like 6-7 tops, def wouldn’t say many. Ging, netero, Silva and Zeno, uvogin, maybe illumi, chrollo. That’s about it and none of those are guaranteed wins other than Zeno and netero. I know chrollo beat him, but hisoka could beat him. I’m not counting the ants since they are past the rule
Is Hisoka's scaling of the Zodiacs even credible considering he isn't aware of their Nen Types, Abilities, or advanced applications such as conditions, restrictions, or contracts?
Nen users especially proficient ones can determine one’s strength based on their aura. An example would be Killua sensing the Gaunyin from Netero even without him activating his ability. Hisoka’s senses are especially highlighted ever since the Hunter Exams (chapter 10) that’s why he can tell Gon/Killua have really high potential. As for conditions, restrictions or contracts it kinda depends for example Bisky’s small form is supposed to conceal her true strength. However nen contracts/vows like what Gon did can be sensed based of Pitou sensing that Gon would be a threat to the King before even using Adult form. In general though I’d still say that we can take Hisoka’s rankings of the Zodiacs unless it gets contradicted somehow.
@@zagessj Interesting, I can definitely agree on this notion as it pertains to the amount of aura one can output, and the subsequent addition it brings to their physical capabilities(AP+MP). But I wouldn't necessarily says it puts certain characters over one another seeing as how important matchup are within the series. For example, Kurapika is definitely not as powerful as Uvo when it comes to aura output and physical feats, but his Nen abilities and further applications is what puts him over the top. Not to say that The Zodiacs have something so directly opposing to Hisoka, but that he could potentially lose more than not against a Zodiac depending on their abilities. But they're pretty featless, so we're just gonna have to see in the future. Hisoka could very well be right under Netero as the strongest known Human Nen user in the series.
Hisoka could very well be absurdly strong and might have a solid chance against multiple spiders if i dare say, all of them. If that's remotely the case I'm very excited for how Chrollo might turn the tables around. Given what Kurapika has done with vows, it's not unwarranted that even if the absurd scenario i predicted happens, he might still get an ass whopping from Chrollo himself
Also this is my top 15 1:Meruem 2:Maha zoldyk 3:Ging 4:Beyond Netero 5:Prime Netero 6:Adult Gon(with the time limit if he reached his peak strength normally adult gon would be top 4-5 tied with Adult Killua) 7:Pitou 8:Youpi 9:Pouf 10:Chrollo 11:Pariston 12:Hisoka 13:Zeno 14:Silva 15:Illumi HM:Nanika/Fourth prince/Don freecss
@@dsw-2898By the time he's an adult the list can change vastly as new characters may be introduced and that will change the ranking. No doubt Killua would be making the top 5 as an adult, but right now he's not even in the top 15.
@@zagessj I always thought texture surprised is a Condition and Vowed Nen. Like for example, He can only change anything as long as it's a flat surface i.e the Prophecy Sheet York New and The Surface of Book in Greed island. Additionally, in my head why would he conjure a cloth if he's gonna change it into something else? If he already mastered conjuring techniques, wouldn't it be more logical and efficient to conjure the actual effect than the cloth? About it, in my anime logic, He just carries around Cloth/Papers with him all the time because it's light material.
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Vs the stronger predator of today (Mei Mei)
@@mrducky..LMAOO
still weaker than Chris Hansen (with chats and prep time).
Hisoka is unpredictable
W vid, you already know how I feel about chrollo vs hisoka, but great vid regardless
One day you’ll be on the Hisoka agenda 😂
Another banger, love the video bro
Thanks
Killua vs Gon would be a crazy vs battle video to make
Killua would do him in any day ⚡️⚡️
@@Sjmybronah bro, Gon is actually that guy, can’t underestimate him
@@Sjmybroexcept when he turns adult 💀
@@sdprz7893killua would trash gon in a 1v1 no adult form
@@kevuchiha3034 MC will never loose.at best a draw
Glad to see a new series, more HxH coming soon?
Yup
@@zagessjW
Great video!
Thanks
need more hxh videos these hit different 💯
I think chrollo using that many abilities and saying it’s the most he’s ever used is proof that hisoka base is stronger than chrollo himself. But it’s a paradox because his ability is to steal others abilities in itself so he’s in his own rights to get however many for any fight, we just know that this one is the one he uses the most…Togashi got us ❤in a dead even tie 😂 He let a dream fight happen, and we still debate on who won when someone died 😂😂😂 cause it’s hxh!!!
It's proof of nothing. His prep is only a testament of his mindfulness and character. He let nothing to chance.
The fight was completely one sided.
I still see Chrollo winning in a normal fight but with high diff
@@Y-JA if hisoka would’ve fought chrollo without a year of prep sting York new, hisoka wins and I don’t think it’s a debate. Chrollo won because of his preparation.
@@Racoons4Change A total of 0 hints that Hisoka would've won were given by the author. Hisoka die hard fans taking their wishes for reality is all there is to it.
You would've been right in your statement if there was some diff to the fight but that was the most one side fight of all major ones in HxH. Again. No hint at all that Hisoka would've won if Chrollo fought him without that added prep time.
What would've happened without the prep time is that there would be diff to the fight and some degree of uncertainty, meaning that it would've not been so one sided. Any speculation beyond that is the product of your own imagination.
@@Y-JA chrollo said in their fight that it’s the most abilities he’d ever used in a fight, and it took him a year to devise a plan to beat a clown with bungee gum. That’s all you need to know about what it took to beat hisoka. With no plan, the odds are in hisokas favor. He’s not the type to have ever given people time to get ready for him, he’s always created the playing field.
@@Racoons4Change Wrong again. Your reasoning is terribly fallacious. The fact that Chrollo with the 4 skills he used in that fight and his prep time ensured a 100% win rate and an easy fight against Hisoka doesn't allude at him losing if that was not the case. It only tells us that the fight would've been less one sided and harder, more balanced.
As for the motivations of Chrollo to do as he did, you fail to factor in the intelligence and mindfulness of the guy. He's simply not a gambler and risk taker like Hisoka is. Him wanting to ensure without the beginning of a doubt that he would burry Hisoka here and there doesn't mean he didn't already have the skills to give him solid chances of winning that fight. Chrollo is the polar opposite of Hisoka in that aspect. He doesn't play around and will follow the path that maximizes his chances of having the upper hand rather than the most exciting one.
Notice that I'm not claiming that Chrollo would've definitely won if the fight had happened in the yorkshin city arc either. I'm saying we currently have 0 indication on how it would've turned out.
As for Hisoka, we've seen some of his strength but nothing otherworldly either. Who's the strongest person he defeated? What's his most impressive feat? What did he achieve during his fight against Chrollo but suffer and die? Did he even land a single punch on Chrollo? What skill of Hisoka makes you think that he would've definitely won?
I don't understand.
Forget about Chrollo. I give Feitan, Phinx and Uvoguine solid chanced against him, at least, against the hisoka before the post mortem nen bump.
Tbh Hisoka isn't far off from the royals
Hisokas AP:
His AP should be above the mid to high tiers of the zodiacs, to which puts him above the extermination squad, and it's stated knuckle is relative to kite in physicality
To which, the zodicas are stated to be capable of sparring netero (likely martial arts) thus putting him in a sub relative to relative tier to netero, which is further supported by the fact Zeno is able to spar neteto, and be sub relative at minimum, and Hisoka, scales above Zeno, by scaling directly to Chrollo, with Hisoka having an edge in physicality. On top of this current Hisoka has access to post Mortem nen, which in theory should increase strength similarly to the base buff of first attaining nen, since pitou went from inferior to Adult gon, to capable of 1 shotting him, thus making it at minimum a 3x multiplier likely more (but a baseline of relative increase) thus putting Hisoka is the same tier has netero (without hatsu)
Hisoka speed:
Hisoka should be relative if not higher than chrollo, do to him being able to react to Chrollo. He should also be around pitous speed, since kite is able to react to pitou, and kite is physically on par with pitou, and Hisoka is at minimum 2 echelons higher than him, essentially meaning he can likely keep up with a series non supressed pitou.
Abilities:
Hisoka is currently able to: regenerate with bungee gum, create limbs with higher durability and more versatility and even revive himself in certain circumstances, and he's nen efficient; using little nen reserves when in battle
Intelligence and ingenuity:
Hisoka is able to adapt similarly if not better than how Gon can adapt, and Gon is shown to be more resourceful than most characters we've seen. He's also above Kuraprika in Intelligence, with him rivaling Chrollo, being able to create and master techniques and abilities upon learning (which rivals current knowledge ging) to which puts him in a top 10 IQ in the series, but arguable if the gaurd is above those characters or not
Overall:
AP: A tier
Speed: A tier
Abilities: S tier
IQ: S tier
Overall: Sub relative Royal gaurd level
This is a horrendous take and an even worse justification.
- Prove Hisoka scales above Zeno.
-Prove Hisoka is faster than Chrollo
- Kite was reacting to a Pitou with zero clue on Nen abilities, that's not even comparable 😂
Hisoka is strong but everything here you provided is either farfetched or js straight wrong.
Chris Hansen would still win
You so underrated man
🙏
I don’t think there’s anyone in the current serious that can beat him. Maybe Ging. Maybe Pariston. But at this point who really knows. That post mortem is completely new territory
Nice video
Some correction, Silva did use a nen ability to kill cheetu. You csn literally see his arm turn back from purple color. Which is his nen ability's color. Also i doubt hisoka pre death was stronger than dragon from the zodiacs but idk. Even post nen sounds like equal to him. I mean check dragons information. Analyze his positions and achievements and role in the hunter world. He seems to be one of the strongest nen users we'll meet
The manga looks like Silva just did a regular punch I think the purple effect in the anime could just be indicating his aura rather than his nen ability specifically.
You’re right about Botobai he could be stronger than Hisoka but the statement about him being closest to the Chairman is vague imo. He could arguably be stronger than Ging but that’s why I said “most of the zodiacs” just to account for possible unknowns.
Great video, however I would note that Hisoka’s “stats” for the zodiac don’t really mean much other than he sees them as strong fighters. In the series of Hunter Hunter it’s very clear throughout the show that no one can truly tell how strong their opponent is, it’s a major factor in many battles in the show. Hisoka even challenged Netero, which is safe to say Hisoka would get obliterated in mere seconds if they fought seriously. Other than Hisoka post Mortem nen I think that many many fighters in the show could defeat Hisoka.
People like Silva and Zeno should definitely lose. Considering Chrollo played around with them.
the fact that you say this means the video went right over your head. hisoka is never wrong & has been shown to be used as not only a measure of strength , but a measure of personality & nen catagory. with that being stated, you really think his analysis of the zodiacs was wrong ? & him wanting to fight netero wasn’t simply because he thought he would win. hisoka is someone that likes to fights opponents of equal strength or STRONGER. he’s like a worrior that doesn’t care if he dies in battle as long as it was against a worthy opponent. which is why people say chrollo cheated in his fight againt hisoka. bc 1. hisoka is never wrong & during that fight, he was wrong. 2. like stated before, he doesn’t care if he dies but he did this time because soemthing was off but he didn’t explain what was off.
Many? Maybe like 6-7 tops, def wouldn’t say many. Ging, netero, Silva and Zeno, uvogin, maybe illumi, chrollo. That’s about it and none of those are guaranteed wins other than Zeno and netero. I know chrollo beat him, but hisoka could beat him. I’m not counting the ants since they are past the rule
@@JsalMMA1 Hisoka is dogging Zeno. We saw Zeno and Silva vs Chrollo and Hisoka alone did a better job against a stronger Chrollo
This needs to come back😤
Facts
Can you do a full video ranking all relevant characters in HxH?
I want to do individual characters vids like this before I get into any sort of rankings
That was a good video
We need Hisoka vs EDP
The Strongest Predator in History VS the Strongest Predator of Today
😭😭
Mafiagrim > both
he should do Mei mei vs Hisoka
He’s a creep but op fr 🤣🔥
More than death😢
Is Hisoka's scaling of the Zodiacs even credible considering he isn't aware of their Nen Types, Abilities, or advanced applications such as conditions, restrictions, or contracts?
Nen users especially proficient ones can determine one’s strength based on their aura. An example would be Killua sensing the Gaunyin from Netero even without him activating his ability. Hisoka’s senses are especially highlighted ever since the Hunter Exams (chapter 10) that’s why he can tell Gon/Killua have really high potential.
As for conditions, restrictions or contracts it kinda depends for example Bisky’s small form is supposed to conceal her true strength. However nen contracts/vows like what Gon did can be sensed based of Pitou sensing that Gon would be a threat to the King before even using Adult form.
In general though I’d still say that we can take Hisoka’s rankings of the Zodiacs unless it gets contradicted somehow.
@@zagessj Interesting, I can definitely agree on this notion as it pertains to the amount of aura one can output, and the subsequent addition it brings to their physical capabilities(AP+MP).
But I wouldn't necessarily says it puts certain characters over one another seeing as how important matchup are within the series.
For example, Kurapika is definitely not as powerful as Uvo when it comes to aura output and physical feats, but his Nen abilities and further applications is what puts him over the top.
Not to say that The Zodiacs have something so directly opposing to Hisoka, but that he could potentially lose more than not against a Zodiac depending on their abilities.
But they're pretty featless, so we're just gonna have to see in the future. Hisoka could very well be right under Netero as the strongest known Human Nen user in the series.
Hisoka could very well be absurdly strong and might have a solid chance against multiple spiders if i dare say, all of them. If that's remotely the case I'm very excited for how Chrollo might turn the tables around. Given what Kurapika has done with vows, it's not unwarranted that even if the absurd scenario i predicted happens, he might still get an ass whopping from Chrollo himself
W vid
W video
Hisoka is my favorite character in Hxh tied with Meruem
So this a W vid
I have him top 15 strongest of all time
Also this is my top 15
1:Meruem
2:Maha zoldyk
3:Ging
4:Beyond Netero
5:Prime Netero
6:Adult Gon(with the time limit if he reached his peak strength normally adult gon would be top 4-5 tied with Adult Killua)
7:Pitou
8:Youpi
9:Pouf
10:Chrollo
11:Pariston
12:Hisoka
13:Zeno
14:Silva
15:Illumi
HM:Nanika/Fourth prince/Don freecss
@@dsw-2898adult Killua doesn’t exist
@@DrnoobzHermidaMF do you think Killua will just stay as a 12 yo lol 😂
@@dsw-2898By the time he's an adult the list can change vastly as new characters may be introduced and that will change the ranking. No doubt Killua would be making the top 5 as an adult, but right now he's not even in the top 15.
I wanna see hisoka vs ging. Actually i wanna see ging vs anyone strong. 😂
Facts
Didn't know about bungee gum 😅
where does hisoka scale speed wise?
W
Texture suprise is conjured cloth or nah????
Yeah it’s conjured Cloth, paper same thing
@@zagessj Eh????? I always thought it was just a normal cloth not conjured ones which means its made up of nen.
I see how it can appear that way but when Hisoka healed his body after the Chrollo fight it makes it pretty clear that he’s conjuring the cloth/paper
@@zagessj I always thought texture surprised is a Condition and Vowed Nen. Like for example, He can only change anything as long as it's a flat surface i.e the Prophecy Sheet York New and The Surface of Book in Greed island. Additionally, in my head why would he conjure a cloth if he's gonna change it into something else? If he already mastered conjuring techniques, wouldn't it be more logical and efficient to conjure the actual effect than the cloth? About it, in my anime logic, He just carries around Cloth/Papers with him all the time because it's light material.
I see where you’re coming from that’s fair
Can’t watch the vid because of potential Manga spoilers but ik it’s a w.
Read the manga!! 😂
@@zagessj there’s still hope
my cope, my cope, will never die !!!!!
2:37 this could be interpeted as ALL the zodiacs are stronger then Morel and Knov
Kalluto isn’t stronger than them
@@zagessj I'm sped af
I meant Zodiacs not Zoldycks
Hisoka glazer, disappointed.
Hisoka will glaze your buns