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The truth becomes a lie when the lie becomes the truth.
The following line is true, the previous line was false.
You are the last man then.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act”.
George Orwell
Stop lying.
2 Brave Canadians.
How about me?
2 Mysoginists
My one and only personal interaction with Greenpeace took place in the midst of one of their demonstrations in Vancouver when they blocked traffic (the Lion's Gate Bridge during rush hour if memory serves).
When it was pointed out that creating a monstrous traffic jam only caused more wasted fuel, the "leaders" of the group started hurling insults and choice words at bystanders and innocent passers-by.
My one-time sympathy for their cause vanished.
By then, they'd long since ceased to be the original Greenpeace.
In the beginning I really wanted to be a part of them but I was too young. When this 💩 started my dreams ended.
And people say violence isn't the answer
How dare you. You have stolen my dreams. - G. Thunberg. I come from Victoria and remember those days.
David Brower observed the co-opting process and wrote some sensible things about always being ready to form a new organization which would supercede the usually expected dysfunction any successful organization experienced. Not Man Apart, Friends of the Earth. We sadly miss his influence. 💚 🌲😎🌲
It was a fanatical and extremist time for me, because I was trying to protect the environment, a subject I knew nothing about.
Listen to the music 🎶 of those days.
Looking back I was a hippie wanna b.
My brother worked in Nuclear energy but I judged him, something I regret to thus day. I really knew nothing about that either, That nuclear plant operates well to this day in Ontario.
This is where I learned I needed to live life before I made these judgement calls, something like what young people need to do today.
I hate to see losers making excuses. You should apologize then shut your piehole forever for what you did to the rest of us..
Good point. There is a psychological principle called primacy. The first information one gets on a subject is considered true, and it takes a lot of convincing to reverse a person’s belief system. That is why it is so important to teach our children to listen to many aspects of an argument before coming to any conclusions. Also, REQUIRE FACTS before believing anybody’s argument.
In all of my four decades as a biologist, you are the first person I have seen who described your environmentalism so honestly. Thank you! It has been incredibly frustrating so many times as I work to heal and improve the land and water only to come up against activists who have no grasp of ecology. In particular in western North America our forests suffer from political meddling to the point of causing huge wildfires, not because of climate, but because of legal hurdles to managing the ecology of the forests to avoid these fires. I am not sure if this will help, but many current activists may listen to your history more closely because they align with the way you were thinking. It is so difficult to use actual science to persuade because I am not in the activists' clique. I hope you will spread your message!
It's hard to believe so many people could have so much hatred for their own species.
puppets forgo humanity for pleasure
Competitive compassion comes with powerful blinkers
Its on both sides of the political spectrum.
@@Beissi-nb9hi
The national socialists came from the left. Just as the fascist (together strong) and the communists.
The authoritarian forms of government always need the little guys to morph into a monster.
That's why you should always be aware of when too many go in one direction - because bad things are about to happen.
It will be everyone else but not them..
Every club or organization's purpose eventually devolves into the collection of dues and money raising projects.
Do you think Henry Ford would be OK with the Ford Foundation of today?
@@Despiser25 I think so but he appeared to have disliked Edsel Ford's decisions, and he was the actual founder so who knows.
As soon as any organization of any kind gets too large or too powerful, it becomes vertical in nature. That is, power becomes concentrated at the top. Which in turn disproportionately attracts psychopaths and various other flavors of the power-lusters. Always with the same result: too much power in the wrong hands. This is the structure of the road to destruction, from the organizational point of view.
Bravo! Are people forgetting this?
Power-luster! I like that phrase!
Not sure that's a valid generalisation. Sure, it happens a lot, but quality of leadership is also a factor, as are other considerations
Wow its almost as though hierarchies aka vertical organization aren't all-good like the right would like them to be.
@@antonchilinski9729 Check your history.
"One basic truth can be used as a foundation for a mountain of lies, and if we dig down deep enough in the mountain of lies, and bring out that truth, to set it on top of the mountain of lies; the entire mountain of lies will crumble under the weight of that one truth, and there is nothing more devastating to a structure of lies than the revelation of the truth upon which the structure of lies was built, because the shock waves of the revelation of the truth reverberate, and continue to reverberate throughout the Earth for generations to follow, awakening even those people who had no desire to be awakened to the truth." - Delamer Duverus : Behold A Pale Horse by Bill Cooper. Their house of cards is fragile. Truth is all we need to flick it down.
HL Menken : "Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe, but in their readiness to doubt. The more stupid the man, the larger his stock of adamantine assurances, the heavier his load of faith. What is a lie? It is something that man says to his neighbor who has cut a truth in him that he wished to remain hidden. A lie, in the preponderance of instances, is a truth, perverted out of recognition. What, then, of truth? Truth lies in our belief in it, not in our denial of it. Truth, to be truth, must be alive. The truth that is only thought is dead. It must be incarnate. In this lies the true value of the lie. It is a way of testing the truths of others by putting them in terms that we can understand. The final lie of all is the one that substitutes one lie for another. This is the most common of all lies. Truth is replaced, not by another truth, but by another lie."
Somehow truth always comes out, as Dr Peterson pushes this topics further and further it all comes to one conclusion, he was right all along and all those insistences on how he is wrong about climate activists just fades away. Can't say that I'm thrilled about that, there are still a lot of issues to be solved about clean environment, but a right approach is crucial...
Yo, finally something interesting to talk about. We need those kind of "whys" cleared out. That's a real mission.
Revealing and insightful. Answered. a lot of questions I had
He’s part of the idiots that gave Nuclear Power a bad name.
I hoped if I scrolled the comments somebody would say something real. Thanks for that.
Yep throw in Jackson Browne and his bimbo girlfriend.
I don’t think these people actually believe anything. I think they’re selfish, egotistical, want fame, virtue and attention, and they can get all of that while acting like they’re being selfless.
Joey Stalin comes to mind. These Marxists simply want to be Stalin.
Thank you, this was informative and the format was pleasant.
"Not killing people and stuff" - I could get on board with that ;-)
WOW THANK YOU FOR THIS JORDAN WHAT AN INSPIRATION!!! ❤ I need to reflect on this.....
Thanks!
So wonderful to hear these stories from Patrick!
Basically he said if going to be ignorant I'm out.
He sounds like your typical radical left winger who is now trying to clear his conscious as he sees the destruction he gave birth too.
Finally! I've been waiting for this interview.
Tom Clancy made a whole book, Rainbow Six, which had Greenpeace-esque, human hating, elitist eco terrorists as the primary baddie. I think with WEF and putting climate change over poverty and all the support they give on population reduction policies, i think Clancy was way ahead of his time on this story line!
Ya, Tom died.
Not killing people and stuff
I resonate with this deeply. For years I flirted right along the dark shadow of this anti-human impulse myself. I've spent much time in the natural wildernesses of the world (a great privilege I remain grateful for) and have often felt the tension between imperfect human development and the dire impacts it has on those places we value deepest in our hearts.
But then I started encountering those 'deep greens' whose choice was to put the planet ahead of humanity. Morally I could see no difference between them and the great mass murdering monsters of history. Our pathway must be to continue to progress and refine our scientific and industrial societies in order they may fully flourish and allow us to become true stewards of this blue marble planet.
Great comment, thanks. I got the shivers last year on a new-age channel. There I saw supposed love-spirituality types wanting the human race gone. I challenged that inhumanity. Climate seems to be what obsesses those groups.
I think of Tolkien who said in an interwiev that the world was destroyed around the WW1 and the great industrial revolution. I remember we said in the 70'ies; plastic is fantastic.. even how dumb the humans are. We are just children. The great Father, our Creator will one day turn this shadow world into His world of Light.
@@beam3819 Yes. Tolkien was not on his own in believing that - we've largely forgotten the mass horrors of trench warfare that could see 100,000 men die in a morning. And on another level I fully acknowledge that there is a deep spiritual dimension to this struggle that not a lot of people are yet willing to honestly engage with. You are correct - the word "Light" is central.
How foolish would you think a beaver who believes damming creeks is destroying the environment. How foolish would you think an ant who believes building an ant-hill is a destructive act. How foolish would you think a weaver-bird who believes building a nest is an atrocity. Humans are part of nature too, not separate. Our acts will be a barely registered blip in geological history, a speed bump in biological history. To think we can destroy the earth with our petty means is the ultimate height of egotism.
Great interview.
thank you, very informative. I had environmentalists ask idiotic questions during my viva voce thesis in business administration. They were mad because I used the term environmental analysis in a business sense and not about the actual environment. They are everywhere….
And they are all shameless, virtue signaling consumers. I am an actual conservationist and this stiffles legitimate issues. Wearing fast fashion, taking trips, and going for starbucks everyday.
Then they deride Christians over a story like Noah's ark, but when you stump them for believing the exact same myth, they tell you to go speak to one of their priests.
I actually stump them with the nuclear winter theory because it is two sides of the same coin. Do you believe in nuclear winter and why? So has thousands of nuclear tests slowed global warming? So does that mean that in only 80 years time you believe that the US gained the ability to heat and freeze the entire planet at the same time?
The nuclear winter theory was cooked up during the Cold War by Carl Sagan to secure more funding for NASA. Proving that scientists lie, and will lie for money. Even their favorite ones.
I received advanced degrees in Public Administration. We used the term "environmental analysis" all the time. Mostly to refer to the political and social environment that the administrator had to understand and operate in. It is also used extensively in Public Health Administration in urban areas. Because yes, there is an urban environment and it impacts people living in it.
So, there really did exist a time when environmentalists had independent thought, common sense, and intelligence. Now it's gone forever.
I really like this comment. Enough to mention it. That said, hopefully it's not forever.
YUP and I really wanted to join them but I was too young!
The bad element started with a woman who thought it would be great to put spikes into trees marked for cutting. This radical was responsible for the maiming and deaths of innocent employees that were working for companies as chain saw workers that cut the trees. At that point trees became more valuable than human life. Which is where the radical minds dwell. Now this woman is a high up in control of resources in government even though she was caught and served time.
Current environmentalists are not environmentalists. They are climate activists. They are solely fixated on that one thing and that is why you know they are frauds.
These classic environmentalists inspired me 25 years ago. Once the carbon craziness took over every environmental discussion, I backed away. I am about promoting reasonable amounts of ecological integrity and conservation, not anti-humanism.
Thanks! Very interesting.
We’ve interviewed captain Watson a few times and it was eye opening.
in 1989, the French government sent agents to blow up Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand. They warned the crew but a photographer went back onto the ship to retrieve his camera when the bomb detonated. One of the agents then went to Israel and eluded Interpol, travelling as an archaeologist. It was in Israel that she was caught.
French secret agents. That gives me strange image like Inspector Clousseau played by Peter Sellers
Dominque Prieur from memory. A French military agent. She was given 10 years for homicide in New Zealand.
I dunno who went to Israel,
@@garyfrancis6193 great cultural reference at the level of the guys here
@@serioustoday Christine Cabon? And I think she got away. My original post is in error. I will correct it.
Both awesome.
Who was funding all of those Greenpeace trips and adventures?
Donations they still rely on donations. I used to make regular payments until I realised they hated humanity and were more intent on pushing climate lies with no interest in truth.
I cancelled my donations and told them why? Their response was that I was wrong.
The Worldwide Marxist Left. Today known as the Wef.
@@elisabethbednarczyk2139 Most all of these groups simple sell fear. I am continually astonished at how scientifically illiterate their leadership is. I am speaking of most of the environmental groups. They have caused a great deal of damage to our western forests due to political meddling. It isn't the climate, it is opposition to treating the forests to prevent massive fires.
The vessel he is referring to was the Rainbow Warrior. It was quite a tumultous time in New Zealand. The sinking was carried out by french spies. The wikipedia page has all the info about the bombing.
I like this guy!
I stopped donating to Greenpeace years ago when they lurched to the far left and started hating humans.
Occupying Churches for secular ideology seams to be wrong and cheep.
The French deconsecrated it a long time ago, back when they spawned the leftist mind virus. Crazy to think about how France was once a respectable country...
It is not the people it is the greedy people, those are the ones that must go.
Marxists only pretend they arent greedy.
It’s so obvious now no one buys it anymore!.
Environmentalists went from "What is the World we want to leave to our children?" to "Don't have children, think about the planet."
Some of the actions like plugging up the pipes is criminal.
GP has always been a criminal organization regardless of their stated intention and goals. Vandalism and sabotage, up to terroristic acts. Perfect example of the ends not justifying the means.
It morphed into a beast that lost its focus, and into something that’s main energy went into maintaining and perpetuating its own existence.
No good deed goes unpunished or unchallenged. You end up serving someone or something. It's our Creator or the state.
The brilliant experts have got the knack,
Saying we've made the world out of whack,
Humanity is too ample,
Then lead by example,
And when they point and call us cancer three fingers point back.
Pursuing my PhD in ecology!
A fucking certified Karen!
I would support green peace tomorrow if Patrick Moore was back as CEO or what ever of the organization!
I can fully confirm that anti-human change in gp and other organizations inthe early 80ies.
Met Dave McTaggert, Paul Watson and a few others back in the days.
And yep, the was a lot of influx from the political left, maoists and a bunch of other weirdos these days. Not to mention the infights.
This change came with a massive drop in the longterm efficiency of their campaigns in the early eighties. It went downhill from there.
A friend of mine managed a greenpeace campaign to shut down a chemical factory. And they suceeded. The operation was shut down, the municipality was left with a highly contaminated area and operations continued in Latin America, causing worse pollution than ever before.
Antiwhaling and seal protection campaigns were a great fundraiser.
At least, campaigns against unregulated whaling made sense at the time.
But behind the scenes, it was a dirty, dishonest game. Russian antarctic whaling did not stop because of protests, but because their fleet was falling to pieces. Rust saved countless whales. And there were plenty of threats to end whaling by terrorist attacks. One guy (John Gordon Davis) even wrote a terrible fiction book about a large scale terrorist operation and just when you think that this was a bit far-fetched, in 1981, some guy in Florida was arrested with weapons, dynamite, a submarine (!) and detailled data on the Russian whaling fleet. Somebody had put money into the idea. Never to be heard from again.
And as to unregulated whaling, the socalled pirate whalers were a lame duck by the late 70ies already. Unknown radicals actually put an end to an iconic whaler named „Sierra“ in Lisbon. By means of limpet mines.
And that broke the back on the illegal whaling ops. All the campaigns since were largely counterproductive.
Like japanese antarctic whaling. Some experts say that the Japanese would long since have quit whaling ops if it where not for the environmentalist they did not want to loose face with.
And yes, I agree. However, the Japanese could not escape their cultural patterns in the confrontation with Greenpeace and Sea shepherd.
The campaigns were fueled by epic pictures of „good, heroic, daring environmentalists“ in their tiny runber boats against „cruel, dark hunters“ in their rusty grey ships. A strong visual narrative.
Had the Japanese painted their ships in bright colours with rainbows and doves and other symbols: the campaigns would have ended immediatly. You can not campaign with pics that need explanations. 🤷🏼♂️
There were some cool daredevil campaigns in those days like stopping French nuclear testing in the Pacific.
But the more they turned from pro peace to anti everything, the worse it got. Cut all ties with Greenpeace and their likes in the early 90ies.
The primary goal of every organism (organization) is survival through replication (growth) even if its other goals have been achieved. It will just change goals no matter how nonsensical or destructive.
Great historical conversation on Greenpeace.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Does that mean the road to heaven is paved with bad intentions?
Regardless, intentions are meaningless, only actions matter.
@@Robert-xs2mv ' If anyone looks upon a woman in order to lust, has already committed adultery with her in his heart. '
and there's Indiana Jones in the Temple of Doom. What do you think of that?
@@jaysmith3361 lust has nothing to do with the heart. And adulteration can only happen if one is in a relationship already.
As for the temple of doom that is just a fairy tale, just like religious texts.
@@Robert-xs2mv 3 strikes, you're out, lol. "blasphemy against the Spirit cannot be forgiven" - Eternal Sin - Wikipedia.
@@jaysmith3361 blasphemy does not exist.
As an older New Zealander I remember that history including the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior.
I lived through this too. The first earth day and we built a mountain of trash from the open county dump right next to the interstate. The next year it was turned into a landfill at least but the mountain stream was still contaminated. One of my brothers went to a liberal arts college while I went to a technical college. We have never agreed on the anti-humanists even though we both enjoyed Asimov's and Heinlein's Humanism. I really don't know how he reconciles two such disparate ideologies but his true Marxist beliefs resurfaced with the election of Trump and he developed TDS to the point we became estranged and I don't even support Trump or any of our modern Ruling Class. I've been critical of the duopoly in politics in this country since Reagan was manipulated by the fascists in the GOP, to the point of attempted elimination of him by force. It didn't help that I was there in the Denver Petroleum Club penthouse when the Bush's announce his choice by the American Oil Cartel.
Point taken
@@vickyko You are the one who is wrong. I have direct experience and you don't. I served as a Republican Sargent at Arms at the Colorado House of Representatives as a young man and saw first hand the corruption and collusion of the two parties. Then I served as a Union officer in the IBEW, fought NAFTA and outsourcing of thousands of jobs and once again experienced the corruption and collusion of the Democrats and labor unions against the rank and file. I jointly administered 10 million dollars in joint funds advancing Family Care initiatives in Denver. So what are you talking about. I experienced it, I didn't listen to some talking heads like you. Willfully ignorant and uninformed. I support RFK, Jr.. You make incorrect assumptions. I want to see the end of this.
@@OldBillOverHill actually you are correct . I was repeating what they say like a broken record. They believe everything they have been indoctrinated to believe. The entire system is corrupt and I have cut people out because they are so unwilling to except, the education system has been rewritten with lies.
The wealthy have pillaged and plundered the earth the sea and humanity. They are ringing it dry and devastating our very existence.
Obama changed the entire education system with core math and history being rewritten. The depths of deceit run very deep. The current administration is following a Marxist playbook and the intent is to destroy everything that is good
@@OldBillOverHill silly how if I disagree with you ,which I was being sarcastic, algorithms keep my comment. But when I tried to comment that you are actually 100 percent and when I tried to comment on atrocity that they are doing to edu cation sys tem, the atrocity of jo boma , my stuff is deleted.
@@vickyko Well, I apologize then. They are doing it to me as well. I have no idea why they refuse to let us have an adult conversation other than I think Alphabet, Google and UA-cam's parent company is in collusion as well. Can't be sarcastic or use satire because the children here are almost illiterate. Must be keyword driven artificial stupidity.
Sad but it is typical that a very important group of people doing lots of good, often split up because of some new ideas destroy the original goals. Or some person take all control
Or the government inserts "disrupters" to derail and delegitimize valid arguments and desway the public from real causes. Just bring enough discredit and doubt and people think all environmentalists are whackos.
These 2 men have put their lives, their souls hearts and minds into helping people who have and still are being dumbed down with ideologies and agendas that focus on enslaving us. In my little way , I try to leave things better , quietly , for those who will inherit the earth after me. How about you ?
'Give em hell netanyarhiu,' Dr Peterson you should be ashamed of yourself.
I do more for the planet than greenpeace does since I actually create habitats for sensitive species of plants and animals. I don't even take donations, but I would appreciate people spreading the word that one of those evil for-profit businesses can actually make a difference. We promote the concept of creating small lakes on private land as refugia for sensitive species of fish with an emphasis on salmon and trout. We are also working on designs for recirculating streams that can be used as "hatcheries" in order to produce fish that are identical to our threatened and endangered wild salmon and trout. We can do much more than greenpeace on a tenth of their budget.
Duck's Unlimited is preserves wetlands, buys them or pays owners to improve,, big time, Last I looked their budget surpassed all the other environment NGO combined. Works all over USA and Canada.
When the USS Ranger pulled into Vancouver around Halloween 1982.Green Peace was there to protest us.l still wonder how they would have greeted a ship from the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
I saw the USS Ranger in dry dock at Hunter's Point in San Francisco around 1963-1964.
You think that ship looked big in the water? You wouldn't believe how large that thing looks out of water.
What a beautiful ceiling.
I lost all faith with Greenpeace in the 1990s when I heard on the radio that they were trying to stop the export of obsolete but functional computers to Africa so they might have computers. They had a huge sook about exporting "toxic waste" to the third world.
Completely incoherent position because they had no objection to accepting and using said computers themselves nor upgrading them and getting rid of them.
Henri de Lubac was right. 'It is not true, as is sometimes said that man cannot organise the world without God. What is true is that without God he can only organise it against man.'
I came to hate Greenpeace as a kid in Newfoundland when they use their tactics to destroy the seal industry, the industry was mostly important to poor Newfoundlanders and natives from the north and the seal itself was not endangered, but it was an easy target for Greenpeace because it had no big backers that could fight back so it became an easy win for them to wave around.
At some point, if one is not vigilant, every good idea, organisation, institute, intent gets hijacked. Because bad ideas cannot stand on their own. So they piggyback on the existing good ones. And take it from there
Via the momentum of the desires of elderly or elderly leaning women
All about control and power
Jordan should talk to Michael Shellenburger
NZers and Greenpeace have, right now, a strained relationship
A war on sea water and fertilizer - great idea.
It’s like any organisation, ever, that’s been developed by man, religions included……starts out full of good intentions and ends up huge, complex and out of touch with original intent……ALWAYS
The Pope?!
So cool.👍👍
Cambridge, Jerusalem, touring…
“They all gave good reviews..wanted to return.” - 🤷♂️
(Yeah..but, they were all sick..right?)
# we’realllllllsoooooosmart?
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“Simplify simply simply!” - Thoreau
“I think one ‘simplify’ would suffice.” - Emerson
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All my friends are dead.
Friends are about yesterday and tomorrow…friendliness and being friendly are about now.
✌️
I’m over 6 minutes in and the guest still hasn’t begun to address the question Jordan asked about how he diverged from greenpeace philosophy, I’m sorry to say but I think the gentleman is losing the ability to stay focused, as frustrating as it is I will push play and see if he ever answers the question
Al Gore started a lot of it!!!
How does science know so much about the interior of the earth?.
"Theres an old psychoanalytic idea derived by Jung, If you can't figure out what someone is doing or why look at the outcome and infer the motivation, If it produces Mayhem/Global seismographs perhaps it was aiming at mayhem/ Global seismographs".
'The purpose of a system is what it does'.
I am blown away by the lack of wisdom everywhere. Is it difficult to look outside oneself when looking for answers? Is it not required. Put aside pride among many other things. There is a brutality to physical existence that requires a healthy integration of technology to avoid blowing the whole thing up. We can't be self loathing in the process.
I always wonder about people whose life is so miserable that they hate the whole race. Unfortunately they don't want to go alone, they want a catastrophe that will bring the whole humanity with them. These people are just ordinary folks living life and hating it.
Thanks to Green Peace for Their Significant Efforts.
Thanks to Patrick for His Early Involvement with GP.
It's OK if Patrick Left Green Peace.
It's OK if Green Peace has Human Struggles of it's Own.
Further,
Jordan, I must Inform you of a One of My Past Small Achievements.
Firstly, I was Lucky to be Born a Thinker.
In about the Late Eighty's I Wondered Why Gold was Worth a Lot.
I could Not get My Head around the Gold Issue.
Eventually I did.
Greenpeace is where all the new Nazis hang out. Nazism is simply SOCIALISM.
Christ is king
last story shows the nihilism of GP.
It's chopping your nose off despite the rest of the face, and all due to passionate, enduring, often times celebrated IGNORANCE.
"to spite" your face
Trans humanism is real.
So this guy tried to and apparently did stop atomic bomb testing. To what end? His description sounds like a bunch of pie in the sky nonsense
Why, to help the USSR gain a technological advantage at a critical stage of the arms race, of course. Did they do much protesting in the USSR and its satellite states? Why not? They weren't afraid of being arrested after all.
@@MrKoobuh That's about right. I was wondering why Jordan had this guy on. Maybe I should have watched the entire interview but he kind of annoyed me. Maybe I'll go back to it
$450k Returns the Lord is my saviour in times of my need!!!
Oh, really? Hope you wouldn't mind telling me more on how you earn such!, I'm always interested in hearing success stories.
It's Renee Marie Harrison doing she's changed my life. A BROKER- like her is what you need.
Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Renee Marie Harrison.
I really need assistance
How do I reach her???
@@CliffordUrich Please !!
People who hold objects while they talk (pens, etc.) are trying to make themselves "bigger". Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, others do it. I'm surprised Dr. Peterson has adopted this practice.
Dr. Peterson is holding a pen so he can take notes. That's not the same thing.
Patric Moore thinks high CO2 rates in the atmosphere is not a problem because plants need CO2. Now that is a problem. He does not understand the fundamentals of physics.
Jordan Peterson thinks he and his opinions are important, another problem
No, high CO2 is not a problem because it has never been a problem in the past when it was as much as 15 times higher then now.
Only problem is your misinformed mind.
screams the idiot in the comments.
Historic CO2 concentrations across earth history, saturation point of CO2 heat entrapment, how close the biosphere is to the plant death zone due to CO2 famine, plant water transpiration reduction in higher CO2 concentration leads to lower water needs for plants, etc. The data is there, and it's all so tiresome reminding people of it.
@@MrKoobuh Humanity has been around a BLINK of earths History. We should consider ourselves LUCKY to be here today. What is so tiresome is the Marxists blaming their neighbor for destroying the Earth, lolol. When the Earth is in a CRISIS everyone knows it. That only the Marxist left can see this imaginary crisis and the only possible solution is Socialist Commie-Fascists controlling every aspect of our lives is the tell.
What he says, makes quite a bit of sense, but I have yet to hear him discuss current climate change data with a high-grade committed informed scientist like Hanson, who really understands what is happening. It is easy to assert when you have no opposition being able or available to argue with. This is intrinsically unsatisfactory.
Plenty of qualified scientists challenge the prevailing CC narrative. But they don't get a proper platform. The custodians of the narrative also avoid debating dissenting experts. And lay activists seem to be ignorant and brainwashed.
@@tommybinson
I dream of the day when people like you stop lying
Hanson who? If you say James Hanson of NASA, your credibility here is done.
That is no reputable scientist. James Hanson is nothing but a liar.
@@terencefield3204I dream of a day when stupid gullible people stop thinking they're right without even debating an issue.
What your side is practicing isn't science. It's FRAUD!!!
Borrrrrring!!!
There should have been a trigger warning.
All nuclear power and weaponry really should be globally abolished.
A country with nukes is left alone by International powers that be. See Libya, Serbia as examples. There's a deterrent factor there.
Yeah, moar coal! Like in steampunk, but for real.
Please make sense if you wish to comment on this important topic.
The way you engage with your viewers during live streams is fantastic. It feels like we're part of the conversation.
Except for the tremendous lag :)
Jordan, there is professional intervention to help you regain mental health.
Is JP interested in the content of his podcasts or is he more interested in the comments section? He is a trained psychologist.
He smoked too much weed and then sobered up
He started out really stupid then got more intelligent it seems. The opposite of most Hippys.