@@a4bcaboose Is this a meme now or just people having no idea what they are saying? I've seen it a few places - but usually from people who don't speak English well.
@@MKu64 It's a meme/joke. Originate from Morbius, a mediocre movie, which most people consider one of the movie of all time because how average with it.
In this case, it is either a stress indicator showing his reaction to getting matched with a high rank zerg or he just walked across the room between the cuts. Not super high. What is more impressive is his RHR which is in the mid 50s. Obviously a practitioner of good heart health.
BGMWSS suggestion: The Improviser - Create a random spin the wheel (on your phone likely) to give yourself a completely unique composition each game, with which you're required to improvise the most interesting strategy or timing you can think of. Bonus mechanic: you could include tech into this, so you unlock a random of tech every 3 minutes (could be that unlocking twilight council unlocks all TC tech).
Imo if you're going BC vs zerg you gotta play "slay the spire" zerg buildings start with 0 armor while building so you can kinda stun lock them if they don't have enough corruptors to matter.
That could have been avoided, had Harstem been a bit more careful with his first BC and flown it home. Then he could have jumped in and deal with the lings.
that will sadly be one time use only, because Raven will get sniped immediatly and the corruptors will just move until aa missle run out. however it would still do quite a dmg.
when the time the heartrate is the highest is during the outro when he talks about how excited he is about next weeks cheeses, definitely looking forward to it
I play a dirty version of this build against zerg or protos but I cannot keep up with the macro. I build my fist supply depo and barracks with the barracks in their natural blocking their hatch by sending my very first scv towards it if the barracks finishes build a bunker out of sight in their mineral lines in the natural for later. At the same time I build my second barracks on my ramp. The barracks in their natural is to delay their natural so if it doesn't finish don't worry cancel and expand. second barracks get tech lab after the factory starts this is for the fastest possible Battlecruiser. I don't think you should proxy the starport unless the contain works. Either way build your second supply depo and take your natural as your factory builds and start making your starport before adding the factories tech lab. I perfer to stay on one gas until my starport starts. As your command center finishes, time building your refineries so that the remaining three finish at the same time as the expansion. take this time to continue building marines one mine and one tank while teching up the tech tree as fast as possible towards battlecruisers, the mine is incase of air attack at home. Don't send units made at your base to the front put them in a bunker at home or near your mineral lines unless your contain is winning for some reason, the frontal assault a distraction. As soon as your starport finishes start building your fusion core and remember to start your tech lab before it finishes. once you start your first battlecruiser make a third and when its half finished send all of your forces and 4 scvs across the map leaving 1 marine in your single bunker and the mine in your mineral lines. Start yamato when the battlecruiser finishes build supply depos. Depending how the battle is going you can build battlecruiser then raven or raven then battlecruiser. you want two ravens when you max and 3 vikings for every 2 battlecruisers. When the first true battle strikes your first battlecruiser should be finishing.. Its a battlecruiser so send it to the battle destroy their entire army and then take out their base. I call this build the snapping turtle. Its a little bit of a turtle but it comes out of its shell quickly to snap up its kill. Its not a cheese its a good build that I unfortunately can't execute in real time.
God i hate playing Protoss vs Protoss as a Terran with my TvT build 0:53 I'm so glad we have Harstem, to show us not only how win such a game, but also how it's even possible
Adding in some ravens would have been awesome, based on the video that you followed chatgpt suggestion to use raven,bc,ghost Anti armor vs them corruptors would have been cool
The Zerg response to mass battle cruiser usually requires infestor's and vipers. Parasitic bomb applied to 12 or more battle cruisers causes a really expensive repair bill.
Another way to avoid getting gg is to constantly yamato spires/pools/lair/hive with mining hatcheries and teleporting back into protection of planetaries/turrets instead of direct fight with corruptors.
Epic games! As many others have said ravens would have made the build better, but that would be rather missing the point of the Bob build. The whole point is to have a unit cpmp you can win with that uses the least possible APM to allow more time to type odd and possibly offensive things to your opponent! So mass BC was totally the right call :)
I think there is a simple yet clever way of telling if the BC is a proxy. The direction it's pointing before finishing the teleport :). I wonder if it moves depending on the source/destination or based on the initial direction it's pointing prior to teleporting.
More bob build cheese, please! This was delicious. Also, add ravens and ghosts to combine bob build with ChatGPT?! This, plus a little early game BM could become known as the ChattyBob 😂
Id like to see a bunker contain at the bottom of the ramp vs zerg so they cant expand, while you expand. Id do it on top of the ramp against the other races
Love the HRM addition. 67 bpm playing cheese on the ladder, like he just woke up and brushing his teeth Everytime I do this, I need to lie down for a bit afterwards, so I dont get a stroke.
Harstem I've got an idea for beating grand masters with stupid stuff. Use a queen in an overlord and rush it around the map to spread creep in stupid places to deny ur opponents 3rd bases/keep creep all over the place. Rush to lair and creep his main base etc
The main problem is 2 tj BC squad can snipe a spire fairly fast... which would then be the best tiem to move in and attack the corruptors elimianting tech structures seems ot be gone form yoru vision shoudl always be in your memeory once located of vital and proimary attack structures.. One thing I hatedas zerg is the lenght of time it woudl take for your spire... I always thought once you build your first tech structure.. you should have a faster build time to rebuilding subsquent structures, by about 10 seconds.. since.. god.. spire.. when destroyed and theres air out there is cry. cry.
This build reminds me of a totalbiscuit build I think from like wings of liberty when he was being cheesy ... he claimed it was extremely effective even back then.
How do you beat mass-air toss as a terran? I've just started SC2 so my micro sux sooo hard.... I've faced mass carrier-phoenix army with some tempest's with tectonic destabilizer upgrade. Tryed to counter it with vikings, EMP from ghosts and anti-armor missle from raven + ~20 marines with couple of medivacs, but with no success because of my poor micro :D Some advise needed
Much easier to not let them get there. Attack before 10 minutes they won't have mass air yet, and if you keep attacking they'll never be able to transition unless they just outmacro you a lot. Assuming the protoss and terran are the same skill level, it's easier for terran to win early on and easier for toss to win with a mass air army. Even GM terran players struggle to control mass viking ghosts
Don't over complicate follow a real build, build your bio hit your push on time, and just stim into his production, don't worry about killing his air unit if you kill all his eco and production you can ignore his 2-3 flying units he could afford in the first 6 minutes
People pretend you need to micro your heart out as terran, but in tvp as long as you have more shit and stronger army stim forward, run into his probe line and stim hold position. That way you force his air units to fight into you, instead of you chasing him around
So... a interesting cheese is two base... attack and a very late third base and fourth base trasnition... its like. 16 marines... two medivacs and 3 siege tanks... 1-2 battle cruisers... this cna be buitl relatively early... the point is... marines are early defence tank is early turtle defence.. bc's start one up as soon as possible this should hit around .. 6 minute mark I htink or a bit later... dependso n how many start ports.. the point is ... to turtle and then... send your marines 16 of them... and bcs... the drop is to hit and kill their ecnomic line on one side whiel your bc's fly in and attack the eocnomy on teh other side.. 1 flys in and 1 warps to cathc up to the other.. and onyl one bc shudl survive in the exchange... one warps out, might beable to flythe other out... but hte point is to devastate the economy of your opponeent, and you shoudl havea good sense of their army... when doing this...... during the attack.. depending on what your opponent has. you match you military and rebuild alwaysa bit.. to defend more so more siege tanks behind it and more marines and maruaders.. and starta third cc and flying yoyur main to the 4rth.. so depending on what goes on the plan is to have 3cc re using your main on your forth, transfering the main scvs to the third.. and rebuilding another cc 4rth at hte main later to finsih off that area... 5:34 - 5:54.. its one factory.. two starports and 2 barracks a few reactors and sci bays... yomato should hit just after your intial engagement, but the problem is map size depenednt on timings... as long as your opponenet is 1 base all inning your 16 marine drop with bc's pnthe perphery shoudl be fairly good.
Speaking of cheesiest; I wonder how adding a, say 4 scv pull to the edge of creep bunkered up with your early game marines would add to a BC rush. Sure things become more all in; but with flying back, waiting for cooldown, and doing repairs that way, your BC is only dealing damage something like 1/3 of the time. If you can get that up to 2/3, youve just doubled the pressure, which could easily offset the lost mining. As long as you mine enough to keep producing BCs from a single starport, same difference. To be clear I dont mean just amoving all your scvs onto creep; can also be a legit strat, but it is especially breaking the expectations and having your enemy go 'wtf why is there another full health BC here again?' that is something I havnt seen exploited at a high level yet. Frankly I think that would be the real 100% win rate strat; you heard it here first.
About that last game; if you let zerg get up to mass corruptor, it isnt really cheese anymore; its more an episode of BGMWSS; even if that works out sometimes. Keeping up enough pressure that they never get a spire down should def be plan A I feel.
wait wait wait .... if this is a Protoss VS Protoss then that must be a new Protoss skin which turns them in to Terrans, i could swear that Nexus looks exactly like a Command Center
It is truly hard build to execute in 'Protoss vs Protoss' matchup...
...while playing as Terran. Truly a madman
@@mikoajjozwik6912 It's because Harstem is a Protoss in disguise.
couple of issues with that indeed...
@@povilzem like one of those WoL missions where you play as toss
Made my brain freeze for a couple of seconds. :D
I cried when Harstem said "I am the Yamato Master Blaster" this was definitely one of the videos of all time.
Yes it is a video of all time
@@a4bcaboose Is this a meme now or just people having no idea what they are saying? I've seen it a few places - but usually from people who don't speak English well.
If you have to ask, you don't know!
@@MKu64 It's a meme/joke. Originate from Morbius, a mediocre movie, which most people consider one of the movie of all time because how average with it.
Out of all the videos, this is definitely one of them.
The insistent bm messages are an integral part of Bob build.
For everyone's information Mr Harmstem Highest Heart Rate was at 26:33 at an astounding high of 85.
actually it was a heart rate at 86 at 7:00 my bad.
In this case, it is either a stress indicator showing his reaction to getting matched with a high rank zerg or he just walked across the room between the cuts. Not super high.
What is more impressive is his RHR which is in the mid 50s. Obviously a practitioner of good heart health.
BGMWSS suggestion: The Improviser - Create a random spin the wheel (on your phone likely) to give yourself a completely unique composition each game, with which you're required to improvise the most interesting strategy or timing you can think of.
Bonus mechanic: you could include tech into this, so you unlock a random of tech every 3 minutes (could be that unlocking twilight council unlocks all TC tech).
The legacy of Bob continues!!
Captain, here me out.
Raven - Anti-armour missile. Completely removes corruptors base armour and is just insane together with bc's attack speed.
Imo if you're going BC vs zerg you gotta play "slay the spire" zerg buildings start with 0 armor while building so you can kinda stun lock them if they don't have enough corruptors to matter.
This is exactly what he did in his ChatGPT video recently.
You forgot a crucial part of Bob's build, calling the opponent a broke boi
I'm so happy you played Bob's build for an entire shoiw. I've had a lot of success with it too, but only in tvt haha
Should've transitioned to the chat-gpt build after the initial rush. 😂
15:03 Zerg was so lucky, I think about -1 seconds was left to build that bc
That could have been avoided, had Harstem been a bit more careful with his first BC and flown it home. Then he could have jumped in and deal with the lings.
@@Diogenes2077 man you're so smart, if only harstem had someone like you coaching him
Wonder if a mule drop would have done it
@@adamnevraumont4027 I was thinking that the whole time xD
@@terryblais9128 i think there is even a protected spot beside the tech lab.
In the second game I was shouting "Raaveeennss" at the screen. Detection, anti armor, big force multiplier for a BC fleet.
Listen to AI kids, it knows better. ;)
and armor upgrades for bc's
Bob is watching proud that he has got not 1 but 2 videos in his name
Could've added a couple ravens to the mix vs the corruptors for an easier win. BCs crush corruptors that get anti-armored.
that will sadly be one time use only, because Raven will get sniped immediatly and the corruptors will just move until aa missle run out. however it would still do quite a dmg.
If only terran had a detector type unit to follow the battle cruisers.
that would be too op
Raven?
a bird?
This is my first time watching your channel. But I just want to say Bob you're a great player and I hope to see more. Thanks again Bob!
0:53 --> "It is a Terran vs. Terran Build. And i currently am playing a Protoss vs. Protoss." --> Wait whaaat?!... What are you talking about? 😂😂😂
Harstem already mind controlled a terran scv wandering the map 1 min into the game and built a base, very impressive
A thin black border on the white text overlay would be sweet
16:54 I was about to fall asleep and I get jolted awake....
If the bob build ever gets used in a tournament, can you please cast it? 😂
when the time the heartrate is the highest is during the outro when he talks about how excited he is about next weeks cheeses, definitely looking forward to it
As others have said, Ravens against corruptors would have been interesting and the heart rate monitor was an nice touch.
I play a dirty version of this build against zerg or protos but I cannot keep up with the macro. I build my fist supply depo and barracks with the barracks in their natural blocking their hatch by sending my very first scv towards it if the barracks finishes build a bunker out of sight in their mineral lines in the natural for later. At the same time I build my second barracks on my ramp. The barracks in their natural is to delay their natural so if it doesn't finish don't worry cancel and expand. second barracks get tech lab after the factory starts this is for the fastest possible Battlecruiser. I don't think you should proxy the starport unless the contain works. Either way build your second supply depo and take your natural as your factory builds and start making your starport before adding the factories tech lab. I perfer to stay on one gas until my starport starts. As your command center finishes, time building your refineries so that the remaining three finish at the same time as the expansion. take this time to continue building marines one mine and one tank while teching up the tech tree as fast as possible towards battlecruisers, the mine is incase of air attack at home. Don't send units made at your base to the front put them in a bunker at home or near your mineral lines unless your contain is winning for some reason, the frontal assault a distraction. As soon as your starport finishes start building your fusion core and remember to start your tech lab before it finishes. once you start your first battlecruiser make a third and when its half finished send all of your forces and 4 scvs across the map leaving 1 marine in your single bunker and the mine in your mineral lines. Start yamato when the battlecruiser finishes build supply depos. Depending how the battle is going you can build battlecruiser then raven or raven then battlecruiser. you want two ravens when you max and 3 vikings for every 2 battlecruisers. When the first true battle strikes your first battlecruiser should be finishing.. Its a battlecruiser so send it to the battle destroy their entire army and then take out their base. I call this build the snapping turtle. Its a little bit of a turtle but it comes out of its shell quickly to snap up its kill. Its not a cheese its a good build that I unfortunately can't execute in real time.
I think you should add a raven later on like how chat gpt suggested. I'm sure it would've made you win much faster.
It would have died as you can see, he had to yamato and teleport back multiple times.
That wouldn't be in the spirit of Bob
@@mothrahlurker788 ghost would be amazing for sniping everything that Zerg had
The background/indirect lighting on your selfie cam is very well done.
God i hate playing Protoss vs Protoss as a Terran with my TvT build
0:53
I'm so glad we have Harstem, to show us not only how win such a game, but also how it's even possible
First time I see you get an achievement on the ladder. I request that this hereby be known as "Bob's achievement"
My boy has a lower resting heart rate starting his cheese than me sleeping
I was thinking the same thing. I need to hit the gym. I didn't realize the HR monitor was to shame us ;_;
Adding in some ravens would have been awesome, based on the video that you followed chatgpt suggestion to use raven,bc,ghost
Anti armor vs them corruptors would have been cool
The Zerg response to mass battle cruiser usually requires infestor's and vipers. Parasitic bomb applied to 12 or more battle cruisers causes a really expensive repair bill.
that tank micro in the first game was fricking hilarious xD
pouf... pouf.. POUF POUF!!
Another way to avoid getting gg is to constantly yamato spires/pools/lair/hive with mining hatcheries and teleporting back into protection of planetaries/turrets instead of direct fight with corruptors.
Epic games!
As many others have said ravens would have made the build better, but that would be rather missing the point of the Bob build.
The whole point is to have a unit cpmp you can win with that uses the least possible APM to allow more time to type odd and possibly offensive things to your opponent!
So mass BC was totally the right call :)
This should not be an episode of the cheesiest man alive. Bob's build is already the new standard build on the ladder.
Engaging the corruptors would probably have gone even better with 1 or 2 ravens for the anti armor missile
I think there is a simple yet clever way of telling if the BC is a proxy. The direction it's pointing before finishing the teleport :). I wonder if it moves depending on the source/destination or based on the initial direction it's pointing prior to teleporting.
nice captain, u play it well, after doing 10k plus games doing this, you do it much better than I ever have, your insane keep it up 😁
More bob build cheese, please! This was delicious.
Also, add ravens and ghosts to combine bob build with ChatGPT?! This, plus a little early game BM could become known as the ChattyBob 😂
The Bob Saga, part 2: Return of the Bob.
The prophecy which was foretold...
Opening game of PvP with 2 rax in SC2 is something that only Captain can do.
I like the battle cruiser rush, the meat opening is a great bait
the heart monitor is amazing, great add
Might have thought about make a raven or 2 when the corrupters came out. They would be dead faster with antiarmor missiles
Never thought Bob would build something so devastating. He'll be constructing war machines against Steve real soon.
That BC had a lot of kills. Just a straight up murder
Id like to see a bunker contain at the bottom of the ramp vs zerg so they cant expand, while you expand.
Id do it on top of the ramp against the other races
Bob's issue was doing this in tvt, clearly it only works in tvp and tvz
don't forget pvp, that's where this build really shines
remember to make 1 raven when doing mass bcs vs corrupters!
ofc that's what bob "meant" with this build as well
Love the HRM addition.
67 bpm playing cheese on the ladder, like he just woke up and brushing his teeth
Everytime I do this, I need to lie down for a bit afterwards, so I dont get a stroke.
That bad boi is a bit hard to see. You might wanna put a shade or smth under it or move it
I will never tire of mass bc
if you do the heart rate monitor again, can you add a drop shadow or something to the text? it's hard to see when you're wearing white behind it.
Harstem I've got an idea for beating grand masters with stupid stuff. Use a queen in an overlord and rush it around the map to spread creep in stupid places to deny ur opponents 3rd bases/keep creep all over the place. Rush to lair and creep his main base etc
Is there room for a medivac before the tech lab on the port?
You're a content MACHINE!
The main problem is 2 tj BC squad can snipe a spire fairly fast... which would then be the best tiem to move in and attack the corruptors elimianting tech structures seems ot be gone form yoru vision shoudl always be in your memeory once located of vital and proimary attack structures.. One thing I hatedas zerg is the lenght of time it woudl take for your spire... I always thought once you build your first tech structure.. you should have a faster build time to rebuilding subsquent structures, by about 10 seconds.. since.. god.. spire.. when destroyed and theres air out there is cry. cry.
he truly is bob the builder
Hey Harstem, is there a reason why most pros use the default skins despite having the others?
HARSTEM I LOVE YOU KEEP DOING WHAT YOURE DOING
This build reminds me of a totalbiscuit build I think from like wings of liberty when he was being cheesy ... he claimed it was extremely effective even back then.
Bob: the misunderstood SC2 genius!
17:38 the hell is a "Crrrroptur" is that a new zerg unit? 😅
that was actually a nice battlecruiser micro
"that sounds pretty scary to me" * the heart monitor determined that was a lie *
bob's saga continues. i love it :)
sometimes i wish i was as cool as bob.. no joke
Bob build is fun to watch. I like the new heart rate sensor 👍
Mario bros on original nes I believe was 3 lives. I played that “un-ironically”
Bob somehow made it to our Captain's heart! Way to go Bob!!!
awesome skills. i'm blown away
petition to rename the battlecruiser to the bobcruiser after these games.
My compliments to Bob's strategic acumen
Proxy BC reminds me of TB. I miss him, RIP.
Bob would be so proud
Mass BC is just epic fun and awesome to watch :)
How do you beat mass-air toss as a terran?
I've just started SC2 so my micro sux sooo hard....
I've faced mass carrier-phoenix army with some tempest's with tectonic destabilizer upgrade.
Tryed to counter it with vikings, EMP from ghosts and anti-armor missle from raven + ~20 marines with couple of medivacs, but with no success because of my poor micro :D
Some advise needed
Much easier to not let them get there. Attack before 10 minutes they won't have mass air yet, and if you keep attacking they'll never be able to transition unless they just outmacro you a lot.
Assuming the protoss and terran are the same skill level, it's easier for terran to win early on and easier for toss to win with a mass air army. Even GM terran players struggle to control mass viking ghosts
Don't over complicate follow a real build, build your bio hit your push on time, and just stim into his production, don't worry about killing his air unit if you kill all his eco and production you can ignore his 2-3 flying units he could afford in the first 6 minutes
People pretend you need to micro your heart out as terran, but in tvp as long as you have more shit and stronger army stim forward, run into his probe line and stim hold position. That way you force his air units to fight into you, instead of you chasing him around
Was Harstem clicking each corruptor with yamato? Is this just speed or how is he doing it so fast?
You get unlimted lives in super mario world just by revisiting the same stage.
So... a interesting cheese is two base... attack and a very late third base and fourth base trasnition... its like. 16 marines... two medivacs and 3 siege tanks... 1-2 battle cruisers... this cna be buitl relatively early... the point is... marines are early defence tank is early turtle defence.. bc's start one up as soon as possible this should hit around .. 6 minute mark I htink or a bit later... dependso n how many start ports.. the point is ... to turtle and then... send your marines 16 of them... and bcs... the drop is to hit and kill their ecnomic line on one side whiel your bc's fly in and attack the eocnomy on teh other side.. 1 flys in and 1 warps to cathc up to the other.. and onyl one bc shudl survive in the exchange... one warps out, might beable to flythe other out... but hte point is to devastate the economy of your opponeent, and you shoudl havea good sense of their army... when doing this...... during the attack.. depending on what your opponent has. you match you military and rebuild alwaysa bit.. to defend more so more siege tanks behind it and more marines and maruaders.. and starta third cc and flying yoyur main to the 4rth.. so depending on what goes on the plan is to have 3cc re using your main on your forth, transfering the main scvs to the third.. and rebuilding another cc 4rth at hte main later to finsih off that area... 5:34 - 5:54.. its one factory.. two starports and 2 barracks a few reactors and sci bays... yomato should hit just after your intial engagement, but the problem is map size depenednt on timings... as long as your opponenet is 1 base all inning your 16 marine drop with bc's pnthe perphery shoudl be fairly good.
Warp the first one in to the main mineral line. They'll just be crying from the worker deaths and rage.
YES BOB BUILD
Why did you not use ravens like in a previous one where you used anti armor missiles?
So Bob's build is pretty awesome, but hear me out: against corruptors maybe some cyclones? Their ground to air spell damage could do wonders
i think adding one or 2 ravens for that dorito debuff and *chef kiss* ez
Why no raven after how good it was in your AI game?
You forgot to use Bob's tactics vs protoss and zerg.... It was just to leave because the build only was suppose to work in TvT
As a Zerg I hate this video 😂 Keep it up I love the content!!
dude, you're almost having to much fun at work 😂
No idea what is going on at any point, 10/10
Speaking of cheesiest; I wonder how adding a, say 4 scv pull to the edge of creep bunkered up with your early game marines would add to a BC rush. Sure things become more all in; but with flying back, waiting for cooldown, and doing repairs that way, your BC is only dealing damage something like 1/3 of the time. If you can get that up to 2/3, youve just doubled the pressure, which could easily offset the lost mining. As long as you mine enough to keep producing BCs from a single starport, same difference. To be clear I dont mean just amoving all your scvs onto creep; can also be a legit strat, but it is especially breaking the expectations and having your enemy go 'wtf why is there another full health BC here again?' that is something I havnt seen exploited at a high level yet. Frankly I think that would be the real 100% win rate strat; you heard it here first.
About that last game; if you let zerg get up to mass corruptor, it isnt really cheese anymore; its more an episode of BGMWSS; even if that works out sometimes. Keeping up enough pressure that they never get a spire down should def be plan A I feel.
wait wait wait .... if this is a Protoss VS Protoss then that must be a new Protoss skin which turns them in to Terrans, i could swear that Nexus looks exactly like a Command Center
Part 2 of the Bob saga
Harstem is making my stem into hardstem
14:09
As a zerg player I take great offence by this statement.
it was hard to see the has har(stem)th monitor because of your sweet sweet cardigan.
also, wine is nice
absolutely loved this. haha GG
In terms of cheese, could this be considered a middle aged Gouda or is it even more solid, like an old Amsterdamer?
Here in America we call him Bob the builder
Where can I find this bob challenge game ?
10:49. I think hiding a terran cybercore might be really dificult for you in that game ...