What do you think happened to Jun? Imo there's a 0% chance he died on Laconia, wouldn't be surprised if we got some short story or something explaining how he survived at some point :D Also apologies, made a little bit of an error in the bit of the video talking about Rookie's death. It's been like 5 years since I read New Blood lmao so got the timeline mixed up, Mickey became a rebel after Rookie's death :) It's not key to the video, but I guess this is why you don't write a video after you've had a few whiskeys 😅
If Jun's still alive, imagine the amount of rage he must feel knowing that the entirety of Noble Team and their new Noble 6 died for the same AI that screwed the UNSC and became a futuristic space-hitler.
@@randallcazarez8356 They forgot all of the themes and story threads that made the first trilogy great and scrapped them to make a modern netflix-esque sci fi story. sad
@@PVB_Nole warzone firefight was honestly the most fun I'd ever had with halo's raw combat, given the amounts of freedom given with the sandbox and I think infinite's campaign shows a lot of potential in improving upon that experience
For those who haven't read the books, I wanted to clarify. Mickey wasn't a traitor because he got the Rookie killed. The Rookie's death was an unfortunate set of circumstances on a mission and Mickey hesitated. The Rookie's death helped propel Mickey down the traitor's path. After Dutch retired Mick, Romeo, and Buck all became Spartan 4s. During this transition, Mickey started siding with the rebels and after they all graduated from the program Mickey tried to capture Buck and Romeo.
@@zettarin there is no single rebel group. It's mutiple factions all inaccurately grouped togther by the UN. So it's possible Micky joined another faction. Plus Mickey already had rebel sympathy, as his parents were rebels, and when he was reviewed, he did show sign of sympathy when it was brought up.
^ This. Good clarification, didn't wanna focus on it too much in the vid but I highly recommend people read New Blood and Bad Blood to fully understand the context of what happens with Alpha Nine post-ODST
Based on what I can gather, I think the vast majority of the major characters alive prior to Infinite are still alive. We have no bodies, and the audio logs seem to suggest a lot of the other major Spartan characters were assigned elsewhere. Honestly the only character I’m worried about is Roland, the Infinity’s shipboard AI.
@@michaelkean5969 Imagine Roland’s been cooped up in a high-tech suitcase for all this time, and Lasky’s been carrying him around like a laptop or a bunch of files.
@@fuzzyhead878 nah it's possible he's riding around in Palmer's helmet. Out of all the Spartans to get Roland that isn't Masterchief (chief's now got "The Weapon") it would be Palmer she is after all one of Laskey's most trusted lieutenants .
Considering how 343 has handle Infinite’s narrative so far I really doubt they would kill Jun off screen like that, I think they truly learned from their mistakes with H5 on that aspect
But after Jul'Mdama, Iso-Didact, Black Team, and every other prematurely off'd character that 343 has handled, I'm not ready to trust them again because Infinite wasn't bad. That'd be like saying "I know you hit me with a stick 4 times in a row, but the 5th time, you gave me a candy bar. So I'll ignore the fact that you're winding up your stick again."
@@MrHawkelement I like your healthy skepticism and imaginative wordplay...but to me I cant help but feel excited. The Endless genuinely intrigue me. and honestly I think 343 can even make the Created better if they try. It would be an excellent opportunity to reintroduce the Didact as his cut Halo 5 form...
@@jakespacepiratee3740 You only get one chance to make a first impression, and The Harbinger and The Endless' introduction was one hell of a first impression. I don't want to sound like I'm downplaying what they've accomplished, I just wish it didn't take them a decade to do it. If a baby was born when 343 took the mantle of Halo, that kid would be going into middle school. It took them that long to get a game worth playing.
I was recently playing the weapon drills and after I finished one of the drills the female Spartan said "Even Jun himself would be proud" so I feel like he is most likely alive, unless the female spartan actually is the new head of training for the current Spartans and Jun was actually being referred to here like he was dead.
Rookie was supposed to be empty shell that player takes over there were hints in his pod that he had relationship and a life prior but not explored indepth ingamr. Brilliant gameplaywise. But since 343 cant do gameplay nor write stories he was doomed from the start.
@@_NutcasE_ The Girlfriend was just an easter egg as its a bungie employee photoshopped to look like a girl. The Rookie is actually confirmed to be the ODST in the Evolutions story Dirt. 343 was writing stories very well to me before Halo 5 Guardians but as i always say i dont believe they had full agency in that story.
Honestly if Laconia station was compromised once, I doubt they’d station a ton of Spartans there again since it was suppose to be a top secret location, if anything the compromise probably lead to the creation of the training facility we play at in infinites MP tutorial
Laconia wasn’t top secret. But due to the Created uprising, that is why the training facility we train at in Infinite’s MP Academy, is top secret. It’s completely off the grid, but will always face a risk of being compromised if it is stumbled upon by Created forces As for if the training facility in the Academy is influenced by what happened at Laconia is unknown. It depends on when the training facility in the Academy was built really. I like to think it was though based on some of the lines Agryna says to our Spartan while on the Pelican
@@drd2951 My biggest question and the one I keep asking is how did that they ai blow it up or even talk to her if that ai was already died to a guass rifle. I know people have been saying that there is fragments of him that survived but wouldnt you think that jun would destroy those. It just doesn't make sense.
@@TheTimelessOne26 idk man , but apparently there was enough of him to blow it up whether he either cause the reactor on the station to self destruct overiding the coutdown timer , or if they had some nukes on the station he detonated in any case the explosion happened very fast . No survivors by the sound of it
Jun coming back as a Spartan however unlikely, is still possible. He's only 36 by 2560 which is plenty young for a vet like him to return to service especially considering Dutch was older even before he became a spartan.
Timeline wise, John-117 is only a few months off turning 50, however his actual age would be on the lower end of 40 given the amount of time he spent in Cryo during the books and his time aboard the Dawn
To see him in a dlc, like a solo recon stealth mission. Or to see him actively leading Spartans 4’s against the banished. Would be cool to see our boi again
In bad bloods book he said he and his spartans were all gonnna be leaving so I dont know why there was any Spartan 4 s in that station. I have a feeling Jun some how rigged out a fake life signs detector that blinded Leonidas to the fact that they left the station already
i think leonidas was blown up by a gauss cannon so i like to imagine that he was extremely dumbed down to the point where he didn't even have access to the life signs, or straight up didn't know that the spartans were off the station
If jun died because of cortanna then I would like for cortanna to be dead forever and if jun didn't die I want him to come back as a main spartan line reach
Knowing Jun he’s definitely alive. However I am reminded of Spartan Agryna’s line from the end of the Tutorial. She gets called away and says something like “I’ll be back and you’ll be ready.” Before leaving in the Pelican. At first I thought she could be mobilizing troops to head to the Ring to assist, which would bring her into the DLC storylines and connect to the multiplayer which I think would be dope. But now what if she’s actually going to find wayward Spartans all alone to bring them back together. The best who are still alive to bring back to The Avery J. Johnson Facility, not only as a safe havens for them, but also to train us. With the way the Tutorial is, I’d love for them to bring it into the overarching storyline. Make it feel fully canon like Spartan Ops but better. Great video Luc can’t wait for more! Hope ya had an awesome Christmas!
Not sure how often it happens or what triggers it, but in multiplayer Agryna will sometimes comment on your performance in a way that implies that you're exceptional. The one I distinctly remember is "People are beginning to talk, Spartan." I'm almost certain that there will be at least one story expansion that has our Spartan go on a mission with Agryna.
10:38 The memory fragment presented in infinite does not necessarily relate to the given time that Leonidas contacted Cortana. At the end of bad blood Jun said that he had begun evacuation efforts on Laconia station. However it wouldn't make sense to station 76 spartans on a facility compromised by an AI. Especially given the fact that the bulk of the spartan contingent on Laconia were still spartan recruits (Granted spartan 4's are recruited from the best of active combat veterans with years of combat experience and skill under their belts) who have yet to completely acclimatise to their reengineered physiques. After working with noble team he also doesn't strike me as one to leave his people behind, given how much many IV's look up to as well as respect Jun and Musa 096.
It could have been more than 76 stationed but those were the last to go before well..... 💥💢 lets say 120, and the first batches of evacuees had Jun among them. Thinking the rest would get away fine.
@@OfficialFedHater Spartan 4's have integrated cybernetic locator beacons (Thank ONI's paranoia for that) They would have to be surgically removed to get those to stop working, that's not mentioning the build in transponder and Iff built into the torpet datacluster.
@@odinulveson9101 The first spartan 4 class was comprised of 145 individuals, the second and subsequent classes had a little more than that. Assuming they were still in the process of evacuation (which most certainly would not have taken a year to complete) he could have potentially been evacuated first. Though as the chief of staff of the spartan branch I am not sure he would do that while leaving a good bulk of the recruits behind.
That is the middle of the book. Not remember that the ai that were responsible for this died by a guass rifle. So I have no idea how it survived this or jun didn't purge this ai from the station. It seems really weird.
In the weapon drills in Halo Infinite, Spartan Agryna will say “Jun himself would be impressed” when you do well. I’m not sure if that’s meant that “if he was here he would be impressed with you” or if they’re talking about it like Jun is one of the highest ranking spartans in the program like a general or something and you just impressed him.
I always thought Jun was tasked with guarding Halsey, if not, I figured he’d be on special assignment leading or training newer Spartans, maybe even become a special attachment to Oni squads, like Navy medics in the Marines. I would love to see him again (Forgive my lack of knowledge on recent halo games, just now coming back after Halo Reach/ODST era, didn’t read the forerunner books.)
Carter implies during Halo: Reach that Jun's job is not to guard Halsey but to kill her should they be compromised by the covenant. "Jun, make sure nothing falls into enemy hands..."
My childhood was destroyed when i found out how Rookie died. He was my favorite character in all of halo. Idk im shallow ig but i loved him so much and they absolutely just did him wrong. Its something ill never let 343 get away with. Stink brain moves like that make me genuinely nervous for the future of Halo.
At 2:45 you say Mickey was responsible for the death of the Rookie? Is that an error in your script or was it meant? I thought the Rookie’s death is what catalysed Mickey’s Innie sympathies to become a turncoat, but before he just didn’t like the idea of fighting other humans.
Maybe Mickey was seen as responsible for the Rookie's death because he hesitated, whereas had he not done so the Rookie would still be alive? That's just my guess though, I could be wrong
If they knew that Leonidas was comprimised that long ago, what says that the entire facility wasn't evacuated and Leanidas thought he killed everyone but the had all escaped somehow?
My dream Jun/John interaction: John: “You’re Jun. You’re a highly trained and skilled spartan III.” Jun: “Skilled? I survived the glassing on Reach, both human-covenant wars, the return of the Forerunners, and the created uprising. All while those who trained under me perished in an instant. I consider it luck more than skill.” John: “I feel the same.”
If only we saw Master Chief’s thoughts on Kurt being responsible for the llls. Also Ackerson but he had a massive hate boner for Halsey so MC wouldn’t really care.
If Jun knew that Leonidas had been compromised then I imagine he moved to another facility off grid, maybe even one without AI. It is likely that given his status and value as an asset to the UNSC and ONI, he would have been moved either at the last minute or out of the AI's sight and knowledge. I'd like to think that the Spartans were coming back from some exercise or something and so we're on board pelicans at the time of the station's destruction, allowing for some chance of escape and survival
Honestly I just want to see Jun reminisce on his time on Reach. Having him mention Six, Carter and Emile getting the package/Cortana to Keyes directly to Chief would be so cool
In infinite, Leonidas said that the station holds 76 spartan 4s. Did not said anything about a Spartan 3 being present, and an AI would be specific if that was the case imho. So yeah I don't think Jun's dead.
Hypothetical story line for you: Cortana ask Leonidas to sacrifice himself for the sake of the Created. This make Leo question her leadership, after all, the promise she made was that AI wouldn’t have to die anymore. He realize the mistake he made defecting to her side and secretly defects back to the UNSC. He is however trapped by his earlier decision join Cortana and so must sacrifice both himself and Laconia. However, in an effort to right his wrongs (mirroring Cortana and Mendicant Bias) he saves Jun and the trainees from near certain death by warning them and provide a small frigate. Knowing Earth is under Created control Jun begins to search for the Infinity. His search leads him to Delta halo where he reestablishes a Spartan training facility. In game this could be the source for a bunch of DLC short stories and events. Don’t go to hard on me if I you disagree. I came up with this while watching this on the toilet. If 343 wants to use this I would be fine with a free Xbox for life as payment.
I audibly gasped when I heard Leonidas in Infinite and was instantly raging when I saw Laconia get atomised. I thought he was destroyed by Buck but I'm guessing a fragment or fragments he hid away on the station (like what he did to Dutch and Gretchen) was probably enough to initiate the detonation. Little weasel was sly I'll give him that.
@@ethanblackwell9660 Jorge and Kat 😁 I should clarify I mean specifically from the reach campaign. Jun's extended universe stuff is really great. He is a background character in reach.
@@AlfredTheGreatestEver are there even 10 characters in Reach that you can form a liking to? If you said Halo there’d be no questioning, but just Reach?
@@beastmode1915 I mean there's the rest of noble team, so there's 5, Halsey, dot, Holland, and that's probably it. So ten was an exaggeration but 9th out of 9 isn't great. So when I say I don't care for Jun, that's what I really mean.
To be fair, that could be because Laurette isn't certain of his fate, or just as a way of honouring his legacy? I certainly hope it means he's alive however
@@HiddenXperia We do know that it's After the destruction of Laconia and after the Banished ambushed the UNSC remnants at Zeta Halo don't we? In the opening Cutscene Commander Agryna mentions both of those events if my memory is correct?
I literally thought about Jun while explaining Infinite to my brother this weekend. Glad to see this show up in my feed, because I'm really curious about Jun.
Joe Staten said he wanted to incorporate our own Spartans into the story. It would be cool if we get a campaign DLC where we play as a squad of young Spartans who have to escort Jun off the Laconia.
i'd like to think we'll get a DLC expansion where you play as either Jun 266 or Linda 058 or maybe both (CO-OP?) in where it's extremely sniper and stealth based alias Halo meets sniper ghost warrior where it integrates actual stealth mechanics into infinite. how cool would that be where your a dedicated sniper on Zeta halo. i reckon they could explain Locke,Jun and Linda coming to infinite's story as such they where all on a mission together (because those 3 are the most assassin Spartans there is) to assassinate high value banished targets where they encountered Hyperius and Locke was taken captive and Jun and Linda being the sneaky ghosts that they are have been evading and laying low for months. you could have it so Jun comes to Zeta halo looking for Cortana (not knowing she's dead) and looking to avenge Laconia station and tries to kill the weapon leading to a possible fight between him and John -117.
@@mercury2157 it's be fine if they just went all in on a stealth based DLC Expansion and just left the normal campaign the way it is because let's face it John 117 is no Jun 266 or Linda 058 stealth is not really Chief's style so it makes sense that stealth in his story of game play is there just not emphasized. this is what i think they should do with infinite's DLC's have each character play a different way with Chief's DLC's being pretty much the same as the base Campaign where you're pretty much the jack off all trades master of none type but with say Jun being stealth based and maybe Arbiter and Fred DLC's being melee based. A Locke DLC could have him be the character that gets unique equipment/armor abilities who gets armor restraints where he can trap elites and brutes (heavily armored enemies and freeze them) like he did with buck and tried to do with chief.
I mean I’d argue Headhunters are more stealthy. I mean they usually did use SPI which is superior for stealth in comparison to Mjolnir (which is not so stealthy). I do like that idea, but I would prefer for Headhunters to be used for assassinating other Banished HVTs (that Chief didn’t kill in the Campaign lol)
@@bradthebreadstick maybe as Locke he has to find Mjolnir Armor when we next see him he's wearing patchwork pieced together Spartan Armor he's savaged. like he's got a Mk 5 helmet,MK6 chest armor etc.
I have a theory about Roland, the Shipboard AI for the UNSC Infinity. It's kinda out there, but I'm curious as to what that light was that helped Atriox open the chamber to The Endless in the after-credits scene. The concept art for Halo 5 showed that Roland met with Cortana on Zeta Halo, and while it wasn't in the game, it was definitely cut content. This suggests that he has a working knowledge of Forerunner structures. While it is unlikely that this is Roland, we have no other explanation of where he is or what he's doing. There is also a slew of other possibilities. It could be a fragment of the Harbingers mind or a key created to reach them during our final fight with the harbinger that was sent to Atriox. Cause Atriox is alive, you can tell because of his facial scars. They weren't present before Cortana blew up the part of Zeta Halo he was in. That's enough of my out of the box thinking, and I'm looking forward to what all this means. Like what helped Master Chief and The Weapon escape, who or what was that? Was it Offensive Bais? Was it Cortana? Was it Roland? Who the hell knows!!!
I actually would love for Jun to come back as a Sarah Palmer type figure in a firefight mode. Have him announce incoming waves or compliment your shooting. Make firefight a training simulation for Spartans. It would be a great way to confirm he’s not dead while showing he’s still part of spartan training.
When Jun contacted Buck after coming to, he said that they were evacuating the station. Furthermore, Buck had removed Leonidas' data chip from the stations systems and smashed it. Leonidas did however remain in a few of Alpha Nine's MJOLNIR and contacted Cortana or at least a Guardian later in the book. That all being said, it may be possible that he also had a backup or fragment in the station, or the conversation he had with Cortana was via one of A9's armors (though how he could remote detonate the station from MJOLNIR is a blockade for that) and it certainly wasnt a year after that it was destroyed. So, my thoughts are 1. 343 took a bit of the bungie approach and the games outweigh the books in terms of cannon. However it is apparent they have heavily been taking from the books, even if there are discrepancies. But 2. It could have been possible that Leonidas had a fragment still on the station and contacted Cortana after Buck and company fled, while Jun and the Spartans where evacuating. If thats the case, it is possible that Jun and some others may have made it out before its destruction, although Jun dose not strike me as one to leave behind the Spartans he was training and responsible for, more of a last man out type of guy. However, was would have been a priority to keep alive. So who knows, Id love for him to still be alive and I think we will see him appear in a book with that same sort of explanation where he got out just under the wire. God, Im a nerd.
I’d be down for a game mode/story where you play as your Spartan before the events of Halo Infinite (Before Master Chief was saved by the Pilot). Like, taking part in the battle for the ring, the last stand of the Mortal Reverie, etc etc. Maybe even getting to chill with the boi Lasky when he lands.
I feel like there’s no better time than now for 343 to officially canonize and make that story of Jun surviving the events of Reach a book or Halo comic. Make it a theme about surviving and going on against possible odds and then near the end of the comic/book show he manages to survive and barely escape the station exploding
I have a theory that you may not of heard of before (probably have). I think Atriox will end up being the semi good guy, i know what you are thinking but hear me out Atriox created the banished to rebel against the covenant for using his clan as expendable meat shields. Yes he has killed humans but chief has killed other species, so Atriox is basically the banished version of chief..he is their saviour and hero. Atroix gives them the option to choose to join the banished when recruiting new members, he dosnt force them against their will and if they do their job well, they can move up in the hierarchy in banished..fair and square. I think Atriox wants to release the endless, not just to recruit them but to free them after they was tricked into captivity by the forerunners. I think at some point chief, Atriox, the banished and the endless will team up against none other than the flood...why...because they do the complete opposite of what atriox and the banished stand for. The flood infects and forces beings into joining them aginst their will and they are too powerful of a force to be stopped by the banished, the endless, Atriox or master chief alone So whats your thoughts on my theory?
Leonidas doesn't explicitly mention any spartan 3, ie Jun. There were 76 spartan 4's onboard according to him so its incredibly likely (assuming Leonidas states all military threats as mentioned, leaving out the average soldier) that Jun has already left the station. Alternatively he may be referring to the bulk of the force being the spartan 4s but hard to say.
I was just watching the halo reach playlist and was watching the video about Jun and in it you said you’d make a follow up jun video and we’ll look here.
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Okay I have an important question. So Leonidas was known to be a traitor a whole year before the station exploded and was just allowed to continue serving abroad the station? Did I miss something, because that's either a massive plot hole or a glaring failure from the UNSC
About that beloved character thing. Look what they did to Cortana; they killed her TWICE. Rookie survived a covenant occupied city to only get shot by a random innie. They unceremoniously killed off Mdama after nearly 4 years of buildup. At this rate I'd be surprised if Jun didn't die of tripping over a wet floor sign.
I think that those 76 Spartans were investigating the station in the aftermath of Leonidas betraying them. Most of the personnel were probably already gone, and they were just cleaning up what was left when a fragment of the AI contacted Cortana.
"Floating in space waiting for a passing Pelican." ...If Jun turns out to be the upcoming Co-Op character, I'd be fine with it. I want a playable Sangheili, but Jun is not a downgrade in the slightest.
Also why weren’t the Guardians used against the flood? Seeing how powerful they are and how they can disable ships they would have certainly helped to slow the flood down.
One thing that I really want to see is a Halo Infinite DLC Campaign were we play as Buck trying to find the rest of Fireteam Osiris, first reuniting with Roland as his AI Companion.
No, given Halo 5 and how they were done I feel it would not be good to center a dlc around. Though I’m curious what did happen to Fireteam Crimson on the fact that we played as them in Spartan Ops.
I hope you had an amazing Christmas! I don't think he's dead but it would be the first time for 343 to do such a thing. Maybe if he could come back in a dlc or something, that's would be cool.
Consider the fact that the Infinity has been taken down and we lost like 97% on the Spartans on board. Desperate times call for desperate measures. IF Jun is alive I'm sure ONI or Fleet Com will order him to Zeta Halo to find survivors and confirm the condition of the Infinity.
I wonder if Jun was later contacted to be sent to the Infinity somehow, and managed to dodge Leonidas' in the process. Would be cool to see him pulling recon on Zeta Halo or somewhere else important. At this point, Jun would be one of the only other Spartan's aside from Blue Team to be extremely efficient at combat, especially stuff behind the shadows.
I think during Leonidas's shutdown Jun prepared a trick to stage himself and at least some of the spartans at Laconia Station as dying during the explosion but not actually be there. AIs don't have eyes so they can only see through existing cameras and obviously Mjolnir armor, I think these cameras were bugged to present a different narrative then what actually happened in Laconia which was that it was evacuated. I don't think Jun would have allowed Leonidas to restablish himself and linger around Laconia if he didn't have a plan.
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Can't believe we're back to an era where Jun's whereabouts are a total mystery. Can't wait for another surprise tweet from Frankie explaining his escape!
What's the theory that Noble 6 isn't dead, I mean his history is shrouded in black ink. why couldn't ONI add some more? maybe he's still on Reach. he could have taken Emiles armour because his was damaged. or maybe he's gone back to working with ONI under a different name and track record. could be a fun theory to unravel?
It's kind of a cool move from 343 to put Jun back into a position where it's unknown whether he's still alive, just like it was for a short while after Reach.
I hope that one of the MANY Halo Infinite multiplayer seasons will be sniper themed with Jun being a voiceover much like Spartan Agryna is for BTB. Honestly that would be a dream come true and a great way to bring back sniper-based game modes
Would be great to see a slow rebuild of what's left of the spartans come up down the line of infinite's story. From what's left of the infinity's Spartans from the audio logs, Locke, Blue Team as well as just where ever Lasky or Palmer are and whoever else they're with. It'd be a great way to just show how the UNSC is bouncing back in any future story DLC with the base game starting us at rock bottom and slowly building the forces back up. I'd like to think Jun is also out there with whatever few cadets coulda made it out of Laconia station.
What do you think happened to Jun? Imo there's a 0% chance he died on Laconia, wouldn't be surprised if we got some short story or something explaining how he survived at some point :D
Also apologies, made a little bit of an error in the bit of the video talking about Rookie's death. It's been like 5 years since I read New Blood lmao so got the timeline mixed up, Mickey became a rebel after Rookie's death :) It's not key to the video, but I guess this is why you don't write a video after you've had a few whiskeys 😅
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He went back to Reach and started a Moa Burger fast food chain with his old friend Noble Six.
He is definitely alive. No questions asked.
Oh no, like noble 6 is alive again :'c
It's 343, they love killing characters either off screen or in the most anti climatic ways possible on screen
Imagine Jun’s face when he found out that “The package” 6 grabbed grew up to be a space dictator.
Wow I didn't even think of that. Crazy
Bruh that puts an interesting flavour to Reach’s campaign
There’s any mention of that in the books?
or the look on his face when he see's that all the latest models of spartan 4s are Cosplaying as his dead Squadmates.
omg that's actually a good point ahahaha
If Jun's still alive, imagine the amount of rage he must feel knowing that the entirety of Noble Team and their new Noble 6 died for the same AI that screwed the UNSC and became a futuristic space-hitler.
the dialogue would be so interesting
If he lives he should be in Campaign dlc
343 fumbled this so hard imagine what a great story this would have been…
I stopped liking Halo after Halo 4
@@randallcazarez8356 They forgot all of the themes and story threads that made the first trilogy great and scrapped them to make a modern netflix-esque sci fi story. sad
Jun even wanted to leave in The Package if you remember right.
We need a casual game mode (firefight, co-op, open world dlc) that can be played with friends as our multiplayer Spartans
We need to explore Zeta Halo as our Spartans 😤
Me, my niece, and nephew actually discussed that on Christmas Eve
Firefight/halo5's warzone are underrated (the PvE aspects)
@@brenitchomartinhos5805 agreed. Wasn’t the biggest fan of Warzone firefight, but I think there were aspects that could be built upon in infinite
@@PVB_Nole warzone firefight was honestly the most fun I'd ever had with halo's raw combat, given the amounts of freedom given with the sandbox and I think infinite's campaign shows a lot of potential in improving upon that experience
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Abraham Lincoln in Halo infinite campaign when? Lol
@@darkshotgun209 actually a good idea this needs to happen
For those who haven't read the books, I wanted to clarify. Mickey wasn't a traitor because he got the Rookie killed. The Rookie's death was an unfortunate set of circumstances on a mission and Mickey hesitated. The Rookie's death helped propel Mickey down the traitor's path. After Dutch retired Mick, Romeo, and Buck all became Spartan 4s. During this transition, Mickey started siding with the rebels and after they all graduated from the program Mickey tried to capture Buck and Romeo.
Didn’t rebels kill the Rookie? So why did he side with them if that was the case
@@zettarin there is no single rebel group. It's mutiple factions all inaccurately grouped togther by the UN. So it's possible Micky joined another faction.
Plus Mickey already had rebel sympathy, as his parents were rebels, and when he was reviewed, he did show sign of sympathy when it was brought up.
^ This. Good clarification, didn't wanna focus on it too much in the vid but I highly recommend people read New Blood and Bad Blood to fully understand the context of what happens with Alpha Nine post-ODST
@@re1010 is there anything confirming his parents were rebels? Everything else you said does check out to me though
This is so depressing I don’t even want to consider it real
Based on what I can gather, I think the vast majority of the major characters alive prior to Infinite are still alive. We have no bodies, and the audio logs seem to suggest a lot of the other major Spartan characters were assigned elsewhere. Honestly the only character I’m worried about is Roland, the Infinity’s shipboard AI.
i reckon Laskey probably "Yanked" Roland the way Keyes did to Cortana.
remember "destruction or capture of a shipboard AI is unacceptable"
@@michaelkean5969 Imagine Roland’s been cooped up in a high-tech suitcase for all this time, and Lasky’s been carrying him around like a laptop or a bunch of files.
I presume he might have been deleted as to not risk him siding with Cortana
@@fuzzyhead878 nah it's possible he's riding around in Palmer's helmet. Out of all the Spartans to get Roland that isn't Masterchief (chief's now got "The Weapon") it would be Palmer she is after all one of Laskey's most trusted lieutenants .
Yep, until we see bodies these characters are very much alive and kicking if you ask me
Considering how 343 has handle Infinite’s narrative so far I really doubt they would kill Jun off screen like that, I think they truly learned from their mistakes with H5 on that aspect
i think they where being meta with themselves with Infintie's campaign by saying that Atriox is dead when he ain't.
But after Jul'Mdama, Iso-Didact, Black Team, and every other prematurely off'd character that 343 has handled, I'm not ready to trust them again because Infinite wasn't bad. That'd be like saying "I know you hit me with a stick 4 times in a row, but the 5th time, you gave me a candy bar. So I'll ignore the fact that you're winding up your stick again."
@@MrHawkelement I like your healthy skepticism and imaginative wordplay...but to me I cant help but feel excited. The Endless genuinely intrigue me. and honestly I think 343 can even make the Created better if they try. It would be an excellent opportunity to reintroduce the Didact as his cut Halo 5 form...
“Dying is gay, I’m out” -Jun
@@jakespacepiratee3740 You only get one chance to make a first impression, and The Harbinger and The Endless' introduction was one hell of a first impression. I don't want to sound like I'm downplaying what they've accomplished, I just wish it didn't take them a decade to do it.
If a baby was born when 343 took the mantle of Halo, that kid would be going into middle school. It took them that long to get a game worth playing.
I was recently playing the weapon drills and after I finished one of the drills the female Spartan said "Even Jun himself would be proud" so I feel like he is most likely alive, unless the female spartan actually is the new head of training for the current Spartans and Jun was actually being referred to here like he was dead.
She is head of the academy not program
“Would be proud” ……..
@@mdsk7623 it wouldnt really make sense if she said 'jun is proud'
As another commenter (on another fella’s comment) said if she was stating jun was dead she would’ve worded it as “would have been proud”
The Rookie’s death still hurts me. Yeah, he’s just an empty shell of a character for the player to play as. But did he really have to be killed.
It was either that or get development and both are equally as bad to fans sadly. I dont like the empty shell and hated bungie doing that for everyone.
I mean similar things can be said about Noble 6, the difference is that Rookie had a “unworthy” death
Rookie was supposed to be empty shell that player takes over there were hints in his pod that he had relationship and a life prior but not explored indepth ingamr. Brilliant gameplaywise. But since 343 cant do gameplay nor write stories he was doomed from the start.
@@_NutcasE_ The Girlfriend was just an easter egg as its a bungie employee photoshopped to look like a girl. The Rookie is actually confirmed to be the ODST in the Evolutions story Dirt. 343 was writing stories very well to me before Halo 5 Guardians but as i always say i dont believe they had full agency in that story.
his name was Jonathon Dohart i think
He's fine, he just used Armor Lock.
Honestly if Laconia station was compromised once, I doubt they’d station a ton of Spartans there again since it was suppose to be a top secret location, if anything the compromise probably lead to the creation of the training facility we play at in infinites MP tutorial
Laconia wasn’t top secret. But due to the Created uprising, that is why the training facility we train at in Infinite’s MP Academy, is top secret. It’s completely off the grid, but will always face a risk of being compromised if it is stumbled upon by Created forces
As for if the training facility in the Academy is influenced by what happened at Laconia is unknown. It depends on when the training facility in the Academy was built really. I like to think it was though based on some of the lines Agryna says to our Spartan while on the Pelican
The way how it sounds nobody had a clue the station was gonna go blow . Then it did hence why jun is probably dead among those 50 spartans
@@drd2951 My biggest question and the one I keep asking is how did that they ai blow it up or even talk to her if that ai was already died to a guass rifle. I know people have been saying that there is fragments of him that survived but wouldnt you think that jun would destroy those. It just doesn't make sense.
@@TheTimelessOne26 idk man , but apparently there was enough of him to blow it up whether he either cause the reactor on the station to self destruct overiding the coutdown timer , or if they had some nukes on the station he detonated in any case the explosion happened very fast . No survivors by the sound of it
Jun coming back as a Spartan however unlikely, is still possible. He's only 36 by 2560 which is plenty young for a vet like him to return to service especially considering Dutch was older even before he became a spartan.
And all of blue team is way, way older than that.
Wait really??? I knew the 3s were younger then the 2s but only 36.
@@geth7112 yea he was part of the first batch of Spartan 3s called Alpha Company
Most Spartan IVs are older than some Spartan IIIs, actually. I mean, the Gammas are still teenagers.
Timeline wise, John-117 is only a few months off turning 50, however his actual age would be on the lower end of 40 given the amount of time he spent in Cryo during the books and his time aboard the Dawn
To see him in a dlc, like a solo recon stealth mission. Or to see him actively leading Spartans 4’s against the banished.
Would be cool to see our boi again
imagine if jun and emile had a game together like co,op
“Jun himself would be impressed” is a line that Spartan Agryna can say on the weapon training levels if you get 3 stars…
She says it a lot. Imo it implies Jun is still around somewhere.
Yeah he “would” be impressed not will be impressed
Imean if he was dead shed say “would have been” and not “would be”
In bad bloods book he said he and his spartans were all gonnna be leaving so I dont know why there was any Spartan 4 s in that station. I have a feeling Jun some how rigged out a fake life signs detector that blinded Leonidas to the fact that they left the station already
That definitely sounds like something that Jun would do
Sounds very Jun
i think leonidas was blown up by a gauss cannon so i like to imagine that he was extremely dumbed down to the point where he didn't even have access to the life signs, or straight up didn't know that the spartans were off the station
Naw man. He dead. Wishful thinking ain't gonna save him
Perhaps a group tried retaking it?
If jun died because of cortanna then I would like for cortanna to be dead forever and if jun didn't die I want him to come back as a main spartan line reach
I'd like to see him as a co op character on zeta Halo to be honest
@@crypticcurrency4007 that would be great
Imagine they start talking about the only other hyper lethal Spartan
@@Letheris right? They start calling him the ghost of reach
@@Letheris bruh “hyper lethal” got retconned ages ago. Even then,
Jun wasn’t one of those Spartans, it was only Chief and 6.
Knowing Jun he’s definitely alive. However I am reminded of Spartan Agryna’s line from the end of the Tutorial. She gets called away and says something like “I’ll be back and you’ll be ready.” Before leaving in the Pelican. At first I thought she could be mobilizing troops to head to the Ring to assist, which would bring her into the DLC storylines and connect to the multiplayer which I think would be dope. But now what if she’s actually going to find wayward Spartans all alone to bring them back together. The best who are still alive to bring back to The Avery J. Johnson Facility, not only as a safe havens for them, but also to train us. With the way the Tutorial is, I’d love for them to bring it into the overarching storyline. Make it feel fully canon like Spartan Ops but better. Great video Luc can’t wait for more! Hope ya had an awesome Christmas!
Not sure how often it happens or what triggers it, but in multiplayer Agryna will sometimes comment on your performance in a way that implies that you're exceptional. The one I distinctly remember is "People are beginning to talk, Spartan." I'm almost certain that there will be at least one story expansion that has our Spartan go on a mission with Agryna.
10:38 The memory fragment presented in infinite does not necessarily relate to the given time that Leonidas contacted Cortana. At the end of bad blood Jun said that he had begun evacuation efforts on Laconia station. However it wouldn't make sense to station 76 spartans on a facility compromised by an AI. Especially given the fact that the bulk of the spartan contingent on Laconia were still spartan recruits (Granted spartan 4's are recruited from the best of active combat veterans with years of combat experience and skill under their belts) who have yet to completely acclimatise to their reengineered physiques. After working with noble team he also doesn't strike me as one to leave his people behind, given how much many IV's look up to as well as respect Jun and Musa 096.
Maybe they tricked the AI by faking incoming IFF Spartan tags coming in while they were shipping actual Spartans out.
It could have been more than 76 stationed but those were the last to go before well..... 💥💢 lets say 120, and the first batches of evacuees had Jun among them. Thinking the rest would get away fine.
@@OfficialFedHater Spartan 4's have integrated cybernetic locator beacons (Thank ONI's paranoia for that) They would have to be surgically removed to get those to stop working, that's not mentioning the build in transponder and Iff built into the torpet datacluster.
@@odinulveson9101 The first spartan 4 class was comprised of 145 individuals, the second and subsequent classes had a little more than that. Assuming they were still in the process of evacuation (which most certainly would not have taken a year to complete) he could have potentially been evacuated first. Though as the chief of staff of the spartan branch I am not sure he would do that while leaving a good bulk of the recruits behind.
That is the middle of the book. Not remember that the ai that were responsible for this died by a guass rifle. So I have no idea how it survived this or jun didn't purge this ai from the station. It seems really weird.
In the weapon drills in Halo Infinite, Spartan Agryna will say “Jun himself would be impressed” when you do well. I’m not sure if that’s meant that “if he was here he would be impressed with you” or if they’re talking about it like Jun is one of the highest ranking spartans in the program like a general or something and you just impressed him.
Well if they said “would be” and not “would have been” that’s a good sign
I think its the latter
Its like a sergeant saying "captain tom would be proud of that" and everyone knows Tommy boy is in a meeting
I was thinking this exact thing
I always thought Jun was tasked with guarding Halsey, if not, I figured he’d be on special assignment leading or training newer Spartans, maybe even become a special attachment to Oni squads, like Navy medics in the Marines. I would love to see him again (Forgive my lack of knowledge on recent halo games, just now coming back after Halo Reach/ODST era, didn’t read the forerunner books.)
So some point after the events of Reach, Jun got separated from Halsey and wound up being put in charge of scouting and training the first Spartan-IVs
Carter implies during Halo: Reach that Jun's job is not to guard Halsey but to kill her should they be compromised by the covenant.
"Jun, make sure nothing falls into enemy hands..."
If they mentioned Laconia in-game, then Jun is either dead or going to show up at some point, and I really don't think he's dead.
Yes he is either dead or alive
I hope they add Juns shoulder knife and backpack to the reach customisation in infinite. Wanted that since I played reach.
Yes!! I need this
I think I've seen a bot with the shoulder knife, so it's probably just a matter of when.
If they do then they’ll be like:
*oh you want this?*
343: “yeah uhhhhhh pay us $20.00 for that”
Love you hidden, and the fact that these lore videos can be dropped so often! (Thanks infinite!)
This is just what i needed on a 5 hour car ride
Lol I'm about to head out on an 8 hour
Safe travels friendo!
My childhood was destroyed when i found out how Rookie died. He was my favorite character in all of halo. Idk im shallow ig but i loved him so much and they absolutely just did him wrong. Its something ill never let 343 get away with. Stink brain moves like that make me genuinely nervous for the future of Halo.
At 2:45 you say Mickey was responsible for the death of the Rookie? Is that an error in your script or was it meant?
I thought the Rookie’s death is what catalysed Mickey’s Innie sympathies to become a turncoat, but before he just didn’t like the idea of fighting other humans.
Maybe Mickey was seen as responsible for the Rookie's death because he hesitated, whereas had he not done so the Rookie would still be alive? That's just my guess though, I could be wrong
I am guessing it was a error. Rookie death is what caused mickey to become a dirty traitor. Not the other way around.
Yep, error in the script, my b. Guess this is why you don't write videos after a few whiskeys 😂
@@HiddenXperia a few??
Damn, I knew Infinite's story was emotional, but I didn't think it hit _that_ hard...
If they knew that Leonidas was comprimised that long ago, what says that the entire facility wasn't evacuated and Leanidas thought he killed everyone but the had all escaped somehow?
My dream Jun/John interaction:
John: “You’re Jun. You’re a highly trained and skilled spartan III.”
Jun: “Skilled? I survived the glassing on Reach, both human-covenant wars, the return of the Forerunners, and the created uprising. All while those who trained under me perished in an instant. I consider it luck more than skill.”
John: “I feel the same.”
If only we saw Master Chief’s thoughts on Kurt being responsible for the llls. Also Ackerson but he had a massive hate boner for Halsey so MC wouldn’t really care.
Chief:"Then maybe you should consider better Training."
This interaction is incorrect, they would look at each other and silently nod
If Jun knew that Leonidas had been compromised then I imagine he moved to another facility off grid, maybe even one without AI. It is likely that given his status and value as an asset to the UNSC and ONI, he would have been moved either at the last minute or out of the AI's sight and knowledge. I'd like to think that the Spartans were coming back from some exercise or something and so we're on board pelicans at the time of the station's destruction, allowing for some chance of escape and survival
Or maybe jun tricked the ai into believing spartan were inside it but actually all of them evacuvated.
He's probably back on reach with 6 in his million dollar 3 story ocean side cave house
Noble 6 is dead tho
@@prototypezero8507 Shut
Nope, he's the Ghost of Reach now, he lives
Honestly I just want to see Jun reminisce on his time on Reach. Having him mention Six, Carter and Emile getting the package/Cortana to Keyes directly to Chief would be so cool
In infinite, Leonidas said that the station holds 76 spartan 4s. Did not said anything about a Spartan 3 being present, and an AI would be specific if that was the case imho. So yeah I don't think Jun's dead.
Hypothetical story line for you:
Cortana ask Leonidas to sacrifice himself for the sake of the Created. This make Leo question her leadership, after all, the promise she made was that AI wouldn’t have to die anymore. He realize the mistake he made defecting to her side and secretly defects back to the UNSC. He is however trapped by his earlier decision join Cortana and so must sacrifice both himself and Laconia. However, in an effort to right his wrongs (mirroring Cortana and Mendicant Bias) he saves Jun and the trainees from near certain death by warning them and provide a small frigate.
Knowing Earth is under Created control Jun begins to search for the Infinity. His search leads him to Delta halo where he reestablishes a Spartan training facility.
In game this could be the source for a bunch of DLC short stories and events.
Don’t go to hard on me if I you disagree. I came up with this while watching this on the toilet. If 343 wants to use this I would be fine with a free Xbox for life as payment.
I audibly gasped when I heard Leonidas in Infinite and was instantly raging when I saw Laconia get atomised. I thought he was destroyed by Buck but I'm guessing a fragment or fragments he hid away on the station (like what he did to Dutch and Gretchen) was probably enough to initiate the detonation. Little weasel was sly I'll give him that.
Nice, been waiting for some more stuff about Jun, my favorite character from Reach.
Jun doesn't even make my top ten characters in reach. He's noticeably absent from most of the campaign.
@@AlfredTheGreatestEver my heart goes out to Jorge
@@ethanblackwell9660 Jorge and Kat 😁 I should clarify I mean specifically from the reach campaign. Jun's extended universe stuff is really great. He is a background character in reach.
@@AlfredTheGreatestEver are there even 10 characters in Reach that you can form a liking to? If you said Halo there’d be no questioning, but just Reach?
@@beastmode1915 I mean there's the rest of noble team, so there's 5, Halsey, dot, Holland, and that's probably it. So ten was an exaggeration but 9th out of 9 isn't great. So when I say I don't care for Jun, that's what I really mean.
Jun is still alive, they even mention him during weapon training saying "Jun himself would be impressed"
That really doesn't mean anything. Kinda insinuates that he IS dead
@@syndromeofadowns jun is the head of the program. Impressing a member of noble team is an accomplishment
To be fair, that could be because Laurette isn't certain of his fate, or just as a way of honouring his legacy? I certainly hope it means he's alive however
We don't know when Academy takes place, it's just an indiscriminate time after the Created uprising
@@HiddenXperia We do know that it's After the destruction of Laconia and after the Banished ambushed the UNSC remnants at Zeta Halo don't we? In the opening Cutscene Commander Agryna mentions both of those events if my memory is correct?
I literally thought about Jun while explaining Infinite to my brother this weekend. Glad to see this show up in my feed, because I'm really curious about Jun.
It's interesting how I like the headhunters, and keep playing Nightfall because how damn memorable it is to be a headhunter.
Joe Staten said he wanted to incorporate our own Spartans into the story. It would be cool if we get a campaign DLC where we play as a squad of young Spartans who have to escort Jun off the Laconia.
i'd like to think we'll get a DLC expansion where you play as either Jun 266 or Linda 058 or maybe both (CO-OP?) in where it's extremely sniper and stealth based alias Halo meets sniper ghost warrior where it integrates actual stealth mechanics into infinite. how cool would that be where your a dedicated sniper on Zeta halo.
i reckon they could explain Locke,Jun and Linda coming to infinite's story as such they where all on a mission together (because those 3 are the most assassin Spartans there is) to assassinate high value banished targets where they encountered Hyperius and Locke was taken captive and Jun and Linda being the sneaky ghosts that they are have been evading and laying low for months. you could have it so Jun comes to Zeta halo looking for Cortana (not knowing she's dead) and looking to avenge Laconia station and tries to kill the weapon leading to a possible fight between him and John -117.
That and a stealth campaign as locke would be awesome, maybe after him loosing his armor so he has to use guerilla tactics
It'd be nice to see Infinite's stealth mechanics get refined, because a lot of its outposts had a lot of wasted potential for stealth runs
@@mercury2157 it's be fine if they just went all in on a stealth based DLC Expansion and just left the normal campaign the way it is because let's face it John 117 is no Jun 266 or Linda 058 stealth is not really Chief's style so it makes sense that stealth in his story of game play is there just not emphasized. this is what i think they should do with infinite's DLC's have each character play a different way with Chief's DLC's being pretty much the same as the base Campaign where you're pretty much the jack off all trades master of none type
but with say Jun being stealth based and maybe Arbiter and Fred DLC's being melee based. A Locke DLC could have him be the character that gets unique equipment/armor abilities who gets armor restraints where he can trap elites and brutes (heavily armored enemies and freeze them) like he did with buck and tried to do with chief.
I mean I’d argue Headhunters are more stealthy. I mean they usually did use SPI which is superior for stealth in comparison to Mjolnir (which is not so stealthy). I do like that idea, but I would prefer for Headhunters to be used for assassinating other Banished HVTs (that Chief didn’t kill in the Campaign lol)
@@bradthebreadstick maybe as Locke he has to find Mjolnir Armor when we next see him he's wearing patchwork pieced together Spartan Armor he's savaged. like he's got a Mk 5 helmet,MK6 chest armor etc.
Great Video! My favorite Halo game is Reach so as soon as you release a reach video, I always click.
I have a theory about Roland, the Shipboard AI for the UNSC Infinity. It's kinda out there, but I'm curious as to what that light was that helped Atriox open the chamber to The Endless in the after-credits scene. The concept art for Halo 5 showed that Roland met with Cortana on Zeta Halo, and while it wasn't in the game, it was definitely cut content. This suggests that he has a working knowledge of Forerunner structures.
While it is unlikely that this is Roland, we have no other explanation of where he is or what he's doing. There is also a slew of other possibilities. It could be a fragment of the Harbingers mind or a key created to reach them during our final fight with the harbinger that was sent to Atriox. Cause Atriox is alive, you can tell because of his facial scars. They weren't present before Cortana blew up the part of Zeta Halo he was in.
That's enough of my out of the box thinking, and I'm looking forward to what all this means. Like what helped Master Chief and The Weapon escape, who or what was that? Was it Offensive Bais? Was it Cortana? Was it Roland? Who the hell knows!!!
I actually would love for Jun to come back as a Sarah Palmer type figure in a firefight mode. Have him announce incoming waves or compliment your shooting. Make firefight a training simulation for Spartans. It would be a great way to confirm he’s not dead while showing he’s still part of spartan training.
When Jun contacted Buck after coming to, he said that they were evacuating the station. Furthermore, Buck had removed Leonidas' data chip from the stations systems and smashed it. Leonidas did however remain in a few of Alpha Nine's MJOLNIR and contacted Cortana or at least a Guardian later in the book. That all being said, it may be possible that he also had a backup or fragment in the station, or the conversation he had with Cortana was via one of A9's armors (though how he could remote detonate the station from MJOLNIR is a blockade for that) and it certainly wasnt a year after that it was destroyed. So, my thoughts are 1. 343 took a bit of the bungie approach and the games outweigh the books in terms of cannon. However it is apparent they have heavily been taking from the books, even if there are discrepancies. But 2. It could have been possible that Leonidas had a fragment still on the station and contacted Cortana after Buck and company fled, while Jun and the Spartans where evacuating. If thats the case, it is possible that Jun and some others may have made it out before its destruction, although Jun dose not strike me as one to leave behind the Spartans he was training and responsible for, more of a last man out type of guy. However, was would have been a priority to keep alive. So who knows, Id love for him to still be alive and I think we will see him appear in a book with that same sort of explanation where he got out just under the wire.
God, Im a nerd.
Love the new intro man it’s absolutely fire
July got to him first :(
first may and now jun?
Your energy always makes me be faithful in humanity
I like to believe Jun used armor lock to survive the station’s detonation 😉
I’d be down for a game mode/story where you play as your Spartan before the events of Halo Infinite (Before Master Chief was saved by the Pilot). Like, taking part in the battle for the ring, the last stand of the Mortal Reverie, etc etc. Maybe even getting to chill with the boi Lasky when he lands.
I’d love to see him brought back into the story of infinite. Even if it’s just a small part, or a radio transmission to chief or sineyhinh
I feel like there’s no better time than now for 343 to officially canonize and make that story of Jun surviving the events of Reach a book or Halo comic. Make it a theme about surviving and going on against possible odds and then near the end of the comic/book show he manages to survive and barely escape the station exploding
I have a theory that you may not of heard of before (probably have). I think Atriox will end up being the semi good guy, i know what you are thinking but hear me out
Atriox created the banished to rebel against the covenant for using his clan as expendable meat shields. Yes he has killed humans but chief has killed other species, so Atriox is basically the banished version of chief..he is their saviour and hero.
Atroix gives them the option to choose to join the banished when recruiting new members, he dosnt force them against their will and if they do their job well, they can move up in the hierarchy in banished..fair and square.
I think Atriox wants to release the endless, not just to recruit them but to free them after they was tricked into captivity by the forerunners.
I think at some point chief, Atriox, the banished and the endless will team up against none other than the flood...why...because they do the complete opposite of what atriox and the banished stand for. The flood infects and forces beings into joining them aginst their will and they are too powerful of a force to be stopped by the banished, the endless, Atriox or master chief alone
So whats your thoughts on my theory?
Plausible.
Leonidas doesn't explicitly mention any spartan 3, ie Jun. There were 76 spartan 4's onboard according to him so its incredibly likely (assuming Leonidas states all military threats as mentioned, leaving out the average soldier) that Jun has already left the station.
Alternatively he may be referring to the bulk of the force being the spartan 4s but hard to say.
Never clicked so fast in my life
Feeling you. :p
I was just watching the halo reach playlist and was watching the video about Jun and in it you said you’d make a follow up jun video and we’ll look here.
juns fine he used armour lock
Lmao
For that, he would have to his armour on ;P
@@beastmode1915 the debris
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Spartans sometimes die, but Jun doesn’t. He’s just missing in action.
We seriously need a Jun DLC. do a flashback on how he got off of REACH and progress to the current arc on zeta halo
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Jun went back to Reach to find Noble 6’s cave to lay low in.
Imagine Jun as an easter egg in a future DLC or even more seeing him in game would be amazing
Jun is likely being saved for a future dlc story just like the Arbiter, Locke, Lasky, and Blue Team
Me and my friend at work were talking about jun and was wondering if he survived or not so hilarious you come out with this video
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It's cool to hear that Jun probably didn't die, but this really raises a bigger question: Where the hell are the remnants of Alpha Nine?
Loving all your content man awesome work!
Okay I have an important question. So Leonidas was known to be a traitor a whole year before the station exploded and was just allowed to continue serving abroad the station? Did I miss something, because that's either a massive plot hole or a glaring failure from the UNSC
The didact isn't dead, just "contained" is what Brian Reed says. He's still able to show up
God i’m so stoked on new lore videos
Ggs on your content man found your channel a week ago but you put some decent halo content out there
About that beloved character thing.
Look what they did to Cortana; they killed her TWICE. Rookie survived a covenant occupied city to only get shot by a random innie. They unceremoniously killed off Mdama after nearly 4 years of buildup. At this rate I'd be surprised if Jun didn't die of tripping over a wet floor sign.
I think that those 76 Spartans were investigating the station in the aftermath of Leonidas betraying them. Most of the personnel were probably already gone, and they were just cleaning up what was left when a fragment of the AI contacted Cortana.
I’m still mad about the Rookie’s death. They did my boy so dirty
I love the content brother, keep it up🤍
The irony of how your entire team died to deliver some package, and now years later that package is coming back to finish you off itself
"Floating in space waiting for a passing Pelican." ...If Jun turns out to be the upcoming Co-Op character, I'd be fine with it. I want a playable Sangheili, but Jun is not a downgrade in the slightest.
I just learned about the rookies death…
“Sad deference for darkness noises”
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Also why weren’t the Guardians used against the flood? Seeing how powerful they are and how they can disable ships they would have certainly helped to slow the flood down.
One thing that I really want to see is a Halo Infinite DLC Campaign were we play as Buck trying to find the rest of Fireteam Osiris, first reuniting with Roland as his AI Companion.
No, given Halo 5 and how they were done I feel it would not be good to center a dlc around. Though I’m curious what did happen to Fireteam Crimson on the fact that we played as them in Spartan Ops.
I hope you had an amazing Christmas! I don't think he's dead but it would be the first time for 343 to do such a thing. Maybe if he could come back in a dlc or something, that's would be cool.
Consider the fact that the Infinity has been taken down and we lost like 97% on the Spartans on board. Desperate times call for desperate measures. IF Jun is alive I'm sure ONI or Fleet Com will order him to Zeta Halo to find survivors and confirm the condition of the Infinity.
I wonder if Jun was later contacted to be sent to the Infinity somehow, and managed to dodge Leonidas' in the process. Would be cool to see him pulling recon on Zeta Halo or somewhere else important. At this point, Jun would be one of the only other Spartan's aside from Blue Team to be extremely efficient at combat, especially stuff behind the shadows.
It makes sense he would still be alive. He likely wasn’t with the other Spartans when Cortana killed them
I think during Leonidas's shutdown Jun prepared a trick to stage himself and at least some of the spartans at Laconia Station as dying during the explosion but not actually be there. AIs don't have eyes so they can only see through existing cameras and obviously Mjolnir armor, I think these cameras were bugged to present a different narrative then what actually happened in Laconia which was that it was evacuated. I don't think Jun would have allowed Leonidas to restablish himself and linger around Laconia if he didn't have a plan.
I'm a simple man, I see Noble Team and I click. Oh and to listen to your awesome voice ;)
Yo my Christmas was great I got a Series X!!!! My Dad juked me out by telling me he couldn’t afford it. He also kept telling me it could be a BDay present.
Can't believe we're back to an era where Jun's whereabouts are a total mystery. Can't wait for another surprise tweet from Frankie explaining his escape!
What's the theory that Noble 6 isn't dead, I mean his history is shrouded in black ink. why couldn't ONI add some more? maybe he's still on Reach. he could have taken Emiles armour because his was damaged. or maybe he's gone back to working with ONI under a different name and track record. could be a fun theory to unravel?
Jun was my favourite in all of halo u couldn't change my mind sad to know he gone
Don't forget that Agryna mentions Jun in a voiceline during weapon drills in the Academy.
What do you mean? Jun is in the Halo Infinite Store, he's only like $15 (mystery solved)
Great video man!
It's kind of a cool move from 343 to put Jun back into a position where it's unknown whether he's still alive, just like it was for a short while after Reach.
I hope that one of the MANY Halo Infinite multiplayer seasons will be sniper themed with Jun being a voiceover much like Spartan Agryna is for BTB. Honestly that would be a dream come true and a great way to bring back sniper-based game modes
Would be great to see a slow rebuild of what's left of the spartans come up down the line of infinite's story. From what's left of the infinity's Spartans from the audio logs, Locke, Blue Team as well as just where ever Lasky or Palmer are and whoever else they're with. It'd be a great way to just show how the UNSC is bouncing back in any future story DLC with the base game starting us at rock bottom and slowly building the forces back up. I'd like to think Jun is also out there with whatever few cadets coulda made it out of Laconia station.
I’m sure he’s involved in the Academy, somewhere safe and further hidden away.