THIS the REAL Reason Men and Women Are at War

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  • @trackstarz
    @trackstarz  24 дні тому

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  • @mzbelovednycole
    @mzbelovednycole 26 днів тому +16

    Eve was decieved, Adam sinned...the fall occurred when Adam bit the fruit!! He failed to cover his wife...Period..now we all dealing with the fall out...in this fallen world

    • @aaleyahforbes5420
      @aaleyahforbes5420 4 дні тому +1

      At the end of the day, both of them sin against God. Because she ate it first, then give it to her husband….

    • @mountainmover.s
      @mountainmover.s 3 дні тому

      Lmbo what???

    • @mzbelovednycole
      @mzbelovednycole 3 дні тому

      @@aaleyahforbes5420 agreed, both sinned

  • @Gnb496
    @Gnb496 18 днів тому +4

    Free will! Obedience is better than sacrifice

  • @gardenofozrecords7649
    @gardenofozrecords7649 28 днів тому +7

    I love how y’all stress and reiterate the covenant made with/under God and how women are told to submit to men submitting/submitted to God. Not just that’s yo husband. Love it.

  • @NewCreationInChrist896
    @NewCreationInChrist896 28 днів тому +19

    Eve was deceived and fell into sin first, then Eve deceived Adam into eating the fruit after her. She sinned first.
    1 Timothy 2:14
    “And it was not Adam who was deceived by Satan. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result.”

    • @txLALA
      @txLALA 27 днів тому

      The scripture, which you quoted, literally says Adam was not deceived (and that is why a woman should not rule over him), yet you added to it. Are you a woman? 😂

    • @mountainmover.s
      @mountainmover.s 3 дні тому

      Thank you dude!!
      It's almost like all these people are talking from memory and not just having the bible open

  • @ani_cir
    @ani_cir 28 днів тому +6

    The guy in the blue shirt 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @AGo-fs2kh
    @AGo-fs2kh 28 днів тому +5

    “And stop asking us what we bring to the table…” is elaborately wild.
    🥴😂

    • @SWISSMUSICFC
      @SWISSMUSICFC 27 днів тому +6

      That’s a question from the unmarried or young minded lol not exactly funny but a testament that you don’t actually understand - men operating with attributes actually want to know what you bring to the table other than yourself - now flip it on a man’s head and ask what does he bring to the union’s table - and if just himself there’d be an issue!

    • @AGo-fs2kh
      @AGo-fs2kh 27 днів тому +1

      @@SWISSMUSICFC
      I phrased my comment the way I did bc I didn’t want to seem rude or on the attack towards the young lady who made the statement.
      But yes, asking that question (what you bring to the table) is a very sober way to see where their mind is, and gauge if there is compatibility/suitability between the two ppl. Wanting “not” to be asked that question is quite telling, and would be a red flag for me.
      But good luck to her and all others who find offense in that inquiry.
      May the odds be with them. Lol.
      And yes, if we (men) said that…you’re correct; there’d be a big issue. Lol.
      And we know why.

  • @hometowngirlncurls5669
    @hometowngirlncurls5669 28 днів тому +37

    Before we say no to submit to a man that isn't submitted to God, we may need to read 1 Peter 3: 1-2. God wants us to submit to the husband whether he is submissive to God or not unless he is trying to lead us to sin.

    • @gardenofozrecords7649
      @gardenofozrecords7649 28 днів тому +9

      “Your own husband.” Not just men.

    • @hometowngirlncurls5669
      @hometowngirlncurls5669 28 днів тому +5

      @@gardenofozrecords7649 yes you're right. I forgot to mention to submit to your husband even if he's not obedient to God.

    • @nenajay3174
      @nenajay3174 28 днів тому +3

      @hometowngirlncurls5669 God wants all of us to e committed to Him. His way is that the husband is submissive to God and also the be the covering for his wife. There is an order, which is why it is very important to be selective about who you agree to marry.

    • @hometowngirlncurls5669
      @hometowngirlncurls5669 28 днів тому +4

      @@nenajay3174 I agree with you! However that scripture is written because God knew this would take place too. Like a couple who weren't believers when they got married but one becomes a follower of Christ while the other isn't. Also, this isn't applied to those who are married to unbelievers. This is also applied to women who are married to Christian men but they are not seeking God to make a particular decision. We can be selective but that doesn't mean that Christian man will always make the best decision or will always seek God even when they're supposed to. God knows that our husbands won't always do the right things but we are to extend grace just He gives us when we mess up.

    • @nickjones1314
      @nickjones1314 28 днів тому

      @@hometowngirlncurls5669 Being obedient to god is going to be based on one's interpretation . At one time being obedient to god was to enslave folks. Man has been speaking for god to make women and others submit to him for a long time now.

  • @NewCreationInChrist896
    @NewCreationInChrist896 28 днів тому +3

    Ephesians 6:12
    “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”

  • @p.a.753
    @p.a.753 26 днів тому +2

    As we all know, sin is deceptive. That is likely not the first interaction the serpent had with them. They were familiar and let their guards down. How many of us wouldn’t have (currently) done the same and disobeyed God?

  • @nethasmith9959
    @nethasmith9959 27 днів тому +4

    " we gotta have more men outings in trackstarz" I screamed 🤣🤣

  • @DevonSteen
    @DevonSteen 13 днів тому

    Great conversation, really blessed me... Keep em coming family

  • @angelajohnsonmusic3731
    @angelajohnsonmusic3731 28 днів тому +8

    Great discussion. Adam dropped the ball and didn't stand his ground. He should have had a discussion with Eve and told her that God already gave instructions for us to not eat of this tree. Just think what would have happened if they had went back to God before eating from the tree. They should have got God involved to take care of that snake 🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @immortal846
      @immortal846 26 днів тому +1

      I think the issue with that is Eve already ate the fruit. Think of it as an adult talking to an innocent child. It is easy to get a child to believe something when you know more than them. Eve had more tools to convince Adam to eat the fruit. He trusted and loved his wife.

    • @angelajohnsonmusic3731
      @angelajohnsonmusic3731 26 днів тому +1

      @@immortal846 I see that as well. They both had no prior knowledge of sin. But Eve gained knowledge after eating the fruit. I'm like girl, why are you talking with the snake in the first place?And Adam was right there beside her and just went along with the idea. She didn't consult with Adam or God. Adam let his desire for his wife cloud his judgement as well. And just went along with the Idea. Neither consulted God. God left them to their own devices and they chose to ignore God all together. Then they ran and hid trying to cover up what was done. God asked them why are you covering yourselves? And why are you hiding? Knowing that they chose to ignore his original command. They went along with the snake and chose to ignore God altogether. So the consequence was the fall. And human kind has been falling further and further away from God ever since. We have been given free will. And we are given a choice to follow God commandments or ignore him and choose our own agendas. Satan knows our weakness and will capitalize on it time and time again. He convinced them to ignore God and that they will be just like God once they eat of the tree. They chose the latter and went against God. Didn't consult him or even apologize for what was done. Instead they started playing the blame game like children do. No one took responsibility and I just wonder if they would have went back to God in the first place and asked if it was really ok? Informed God about the snake and what was said. Or after they consumed the fruit. If they would have just apologized and asked for forgiveness. Maybe things would have taken a different course altogether. As I was writing this. This scripture came to mind: Jesus says: “If you love Me, keep My commandments … He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me … If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.” John 14:15-24.🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @StromLxrd6
      @StromLxrd6 21 день тому +2

      was Adam even around Eve at the time that she took of the fruit, if he was i believe he would of stopped her

    • @angelajohnsonmusic3731
      @angelajohnsonmusic3731 21 день тому

      @@StromLxrd6 Check out Genesis 3:6. It gives an account that he was right there beside her. I went back and read Genesis. I never saw this before. I was like why didn't you say something Adam? 🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @CCD_106
      @CCD_106 6 днів тому

      ​@@angelajohnsonmusic3731Adam was NOT there at the conversation with the serpent. In Genesis 3:3, Eve tells the serpent they are not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden. Why would she say where the tree was if she was already at the tree? It was LATER when she was at the tree, saw it looked good, and ate that Adam was with her (Genesis 3:6). We must RIGHTLY divide The Word! (2 Timothy 2:15)

  • @therealericaerica
    @therealericaerica 27 днів тому +2

    I really like this platform!

  • @junowho42
    @junowho42 27 днів тому +3

    They had no consciousness prior to eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. So they were literally without knowledge of good or evil. They discovered what was evil by transgressing the word of God.

  • @Nellynellj
    @Nellynellj 24 дні тому +1

    Lol at the end of it...God said what he said 😂

  • @user-oq6ip9xz1x
    @user-oq6ip9xz1x 26 днів тому +1

    One of my favourite “unserious” yet informative, still teaching and just a great talk full of wisdom and a little bit of laughter 😅❤

  • @saintamongstthecowboys4973
    @saintamongstthecowboys4973 27 днів тому +2

    this is a great discussion.

  • @TiffLIFE205
    @TiffLIFE205 28 днів тому +2

    Great show! 😊😊😊

  • @Vaughn2024
    @Vaughn2024 27 днів тому +3

    Jezzebel spirit

  • @sonyablessed
    @sonyablessed 27 днів тому +2

    I like that😂😂 Adam and Abraham were sucker's, 😂😂.

  • @dewaynenash9706
    @dewaynenash9706 24 дні тому +1

    This Snake and Apple translation is the PG version, what took place in the Garden on that day was much more serious and wicked than the present day watered down version

  • @soldiernumber14
    @soldiernumber14 27 днів тому +1

    Matthew 10:37-39 talks about this. Leading your family well comes down to having correct priorities and putting God first. If we find ourselves outside of God's will because of our spouse, that's something that needs to be addressed immediately. You are being pushed further and further away from God and you don't even realize it.

  • @Dreadboi1990
    @Dreadboi1990 28 днів тому +8

    Women negating accountability even with Eve lol😅

    • @danilaroche1156
      @danilaroche1156 26 днів тому +1

      Stop. Your generalizing.

    • @Dreadboi1990
      @Dreadboi1990 26 днів тому +1

      @@danilaroche1156 Generalizations are fine. If the shoe doesn't fit don't wear it.

  • @tonyokusanya8411
    @tonyokusanya8411 27 днів тому +2

    To understand the curse God placed on Eve, we see a similar phrase God used when he spoke to her son Cain. Sins desire is to control Cain same as Eve’s desire will be to control Adam.
    Genesis 4:7 (NKJV)
    7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.”

  • @shaelovesJesus
    @shaelovesJesus 14 днів тому

    This was a good conversation

  • @keshiacole2413
    @keshiacole2413 27 днів тому +2

    I read a book called Eve and they broken down how the fall in the garden, which is that Adam was already curious about the tree and when he saw Eve was in love with Adam and willing to do anything to get his love nd saw he was curious she ate the fruit, because she thought it was wat he want she knew what God said but she was more worried about pleasing Adam so when God cursed Eve and says you will desire your husband as in you will desire him more than me and for that instead of me ruling over your life, your husband will as in you will follow him instead of me. It was also a really good read

    • @CCD_106
      @CCD_106 7 днів тому +2

      Please be careful as that is not Biblically accurate AT ALL! Sin entered through Adam because he LISTENED TO/FOLLOWED Eve in sin... Genesis 3:17! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @thewordspoken5145
    @thewordspoken5145 28 днів тому +2

    This is an interesting topic, you guys went deep. A couple of scriptures that speak to it are 1 Corinthians 11, and 1 Timothy 2. to Sean's point, yes we see the results of Abraham's action, with Israel and Islam today. Plus, to Plain's point, friction in the home is a punishment. Finally, yes the proper interpretation of the genesis passage is a battle of the sexes. Tony Evans gave a nice sermon about it. Nice discussion everyone.

  • @rachellewilliams6258
    @rachellewilliams6258 16 днів тому +1

    God said DON’T EAT OF THAT TREE, PERIOD TO ADAM! He was with her‼️ No excuse‼️Eve knew better too. Even if the serpent hadn’t been there, God still said, “DON’T!”

  • @CCD_106
    @CCD_106 6 днів тому +2

    I know I'm late to this video but Adam was NOT there at the conversation with the serpent. In Genesis 3:3, Eve tells the serpent they are not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden. Why would she say where the tree was if she was already at the tree? It was LATER when she was at the tree, saw it looked good, and ate that Adam was with her (Genesis 3:6). We must RIGHTLY divide The Word! (2 Timothy 2:15)

    • @mountainmover.s
      @mountainmover.s 3 дні тому +1

      Right!! These guys are missing the key details

  • @Dreadboi1990
    @Dreadboi1990 27 днів тому +1

    Meaning of life.
    . Fear God and keep his commandments...ecc

  • @chloelageaux769
    @chloelageaux769 27 днів тому

    Great conversation!!!!

  • @deborahw.215
    @deborahw.215 27 днів тому +2

    I think you all got off track by not fully understanding the text. The book is about the fall & redemption.
    Eve was deceived, Adam was not. God said, "The day you eat, you shall surely die." Adam loved his wife and knew they were about to be separated. He made the choice to take the punishment in order to be with her because of his love for her, just as Christ took on our sin to redeem His bride the church.

    • @Dewayne-ij3pg
      @Dewayne-ij3pg 16 днів тому

      This is good. This could preach. I see the parallel.

    • @mountainmover.s
      @mountainmover.s 3 дні тому

      That's a beautiful way to show just how God created man's ability to love.

  • @Gnb496
    @Gnb496 18 днів тому

    Nabel in the Bible 1 Samuel was called a fool. His name meant fool. His wife Abagail was called a wise woman.

  • @mildredwashington9478
    @mildredwashington9478 27 днів тому +1

    This was really good

  • @bdoug87
    @bdoug87 20 днів тому

    12:26 they gon label you jealous and controlling haha

  • @garrickwes
    @garrickwes 8 днів тому

    It’s simple, if it’s a curse then it’s not she will want her husband in that way, but rule over him.

  • @LoveDivine-ls6xo
    @LoveDivine-ls6xo 20 днів тому

    A very interesting discussion, but all things need to find a balance between femininity and masculinity.

  • @crtart54
    @crtart54 27 днів тому +1

    1 peter 3:1 circumstances dnt dictate our obedience 2 God

  • @vnhg
    @vnhg 27 днів тому +2

    Too much eisegesis in this one. LoL

  • @HarrisonFamilyValues
    @HarrisonFamilyValues 28 днів тому +1

    Whoaaaaa, can you share the link for the original video?

  • @100ssgoku
    @100ssgoku 21 день тому

    4:53 he is not there !

  • @JFAutoMedia
    @JFAutoMedia 17 днів тому

    Abraham laying with Rachel’s handmaiden isn’t the same as King David committing adultery with Uriah the Hittite’s “WIFE” because not only did David commit adultery he he tried to deceive Uriah and ultimately got him killed. In Abraham’s case Hagar was given to him by Sarah so it wasn’t adultery

  • @laureneboneaexum-german301
    @laureneboneaexum-german301 27 днів тому +1

    Many married couples in Scripture, weren't submitted to YAH'S leadership fully, or at all, but you actually don't see YAH discarding or discrediting their marriage union either. He let even their individual choices give a separate judgement.. Even to judge them separately though married.

  • @100ssgoku
    @100ssgoku 21 день тому

    26:43 that was the wife !!!!

  • @camiwar-yx3fb
    @camiwar-yx3fb 26 днів тому

    That word, desire, is the same word used to refer to sin’s desire for us, in Genesis 4:7.

  • @MarquitaMaverick
    @MarquitaMaverick 26 днів тому

    7:33 😂🤣

  • @JLM2
    @JLM2 6 днів тому

    Adam was beguiled by Eve.

  • @Dewayne-ij3pg
    @Dewayne-ij3pg 16 днів тому

    Could it be that Adam wanted the fruit as well. Maybe he wanted to see what would happen to Eve first before he ate the fruit. Upon seeing that she didn’t die immediately he ate as well.

  • @Soulficial360
    @Soulficial360 12 днів тому

    Eve never knew that she wasn't supposed to eat the apple. Can't punish her for what she didn't know 🤷🏾 Adam never spoke up.

    • @mountainmover.s
      @mountainmover.s 3 дні тому

      Now what ? Lol . Ma'am. Please read ya bible.

  • @jree333
    @jree333 27 днів тому +1

    Fun how these men are exactly what the lady described in the video

    • @evanradford8469
      @evanradford8469 27 днів тому +1

      @@jree333 exactly. They're tip toeing the topic matter rather than just confirming the obvious of what's been going on today with the emasculation of men

    • @mountainmover.s
      @mountainmover.s 3 дні тому

      Right lmboo

  • @valerieh.1624
    @valerieh.1624 28 днів тому

    1 minute in and so much was said. We Must remain in 🙏🏾 every day. GOD has the True answers. 9:20YES!! 10:10-11:00🙌🏾.

  • @Dreadboi1990
    @Dreadboi1990 28 днів тому +2

    A woman was not the first person Jesus spread the message to or with. A woman was the first person to speak to and see him after his resurrection 😂

  • @JLM2
    @JLM2 6 днів тому

    Why did U think Adam heard the snake. Or saw the snake?

  • @MamaShawnyD
    @MamaShawnyD 27 днів тому

    Only the serpent and the ground were cursed.

  • @THENEWMrYungT1992
    @THENEWMrYungT1992 7 днів тому

    The Ethiopian Bible predates the KJV (a version universally accepted because of control)…in it it has 22 scriptures more than the KJV. I’ve briefly read it since getting it and in that short time with it, I know the sabbath is Saturday and you’re not even supposed to cook on that day. I found out that Adam passed like 70 years before 1000 years and the Bible spoke about how much time that is in heaven. I found out that we probably should pray to Yahweh instead of the broad term God (you could be praying to the “god” on the dollar). Pray to The Most High! I’m gonna tap more into this Bible but I heavily suggest it

  • @MamaShawnyD
    @MamaShawnyD 27 днів тому

    Adam and Eve were to rule together before the fall. Genesis 1:28, God blessed them and said to them, "be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth."

  • @lavonsays8895
    @lavonsays8895 10 днів тому

    Wrong context. Remember, he wouldn't be suspecting the snake because up to this point, conversation with the animals weren't foreign. It was the 1st time any conversations went against what God said. And he was by the tree... it still need maintenance; just not eat the fruit, not don't care for the tree at all

  • @Rawsnipergamer
    @Rawsnipergamer 27 днів тому

    Where's the original video from?

  • @hippiebaelala
    @hippiebaelala 20 днів тому +1

    I’m only 16 min in so idk if this gets addressed or not, but whether Adam was there or not when the snake deceived Eve, Adam knew what Tree the fruit came from because of the fruit that tree beared. I’m pretty sure if God deemed 1 particular plant in an entire garden ‘unsafe’, that plant beared fruit that was distinct to that tree. God/Jesus uses parables of fruit all the through the Bible, and he tells us you can tell what kind of person someone is by their fruit!!! We like to say “apple” but we don’t really know what kind of fruit it was. All we know is it was off limits, Adam knew better and ate the fruit anyway. He sinned and Eve was deceived. Period. Adam should have corrected Eve and slapped that fruit out of her hand lol!

  • @GoingHammers
    @GoingHammers 27 днів тому

    I don’t think either of them had dominion over each other in the beginning, it wasn’t until after they sinned that God said the man would have dominion over the woman, he gave the woman as a helpmate which means they were a team and did things together for the good of the earth

  • @adrianoedwards2440
    @adrianoedwards2440 28 днів тому

    Let me preface this comment with I have not listened to the entire video yet, but I had to comment that "Eve did not step up in the garden" as one of the panel commented that she did. Satan approached her in the garden, and while she had more conversation with the devil than Adam did with her, I don't think we should portray Eve as having stepped up in the garden.

  • @JPitsmefam
    @JPitsmefam 28 днів тому +2

    So Adam was a sucker? Crazy statement. We acting like Satan isnt cunning.

  • @valerieh.1624
    @valerieh.1624 28 днів тому

    I agree, Adam was a sucker. And today, "IF" the Husband sins. The "entire" house does suffer. 21:00 HALLELUJAH!!!

  • @laureneboneaexum-german301
    @laureneboneaexum-german301 27 днів тому

    Esther's Husband and King of Persia wasn't fearing YAH, and she dominated him with her looks and favor to get him to get Haman outta there for his malicious plot. He wasn't submitted to YAH... AT ALL! She laid with him, then was married to him and he never became a servant of the Most High..just a pawn in the game to save lives.

  • @Fullestlife1
    @Fullestlife1 22 дні тому

    umm...it's tricky. For many reasons. Honestly these gender challenges aren't just outside, but they're in the church. Just like the church in the US(probly in other places too) has often been thoroughly segregated by gender, it's also been segregated by race. Many in the church used to teach(probly still do) that left-handed people were cursed/evil. Catholics weren't allowed in certain public places. Also, Does every woman have to feminine? Does every man have to be masculine? Is there room for gender-fluidity?

  • @marcusfriends4832
    @marcusfriends4832 14 днів тому

    WHO had the command first, Adam, and he watched the snake the whole time talking to her🤔knowing what God said?

  • @WintersLighthouse
    @WintersLighthouse 27 днів тому

    Another example is Abraham and Sarah…Sarah decided to take control and Hagar had Ishmael, which caused problems. God created order and authority and culture does and can’t change that. God, Man, wife, dominion. That is the order God created. The Bible also states when women are in leadership positions that is a judge on the nation. As Christians, we have to hold our sword- look to the word of God for understanding and clarification. Nothing is uncommon/new under the sun.

  • @roster092
    @roster092 28 днів тому

    I love this conversation though I think I have a thought to offer that hasnt been mentioned to the point I have listened 14:39.
    In Genesis 1:26 God gave man dominion over the earth meaning he should have told the snake to shut up and pipe down. Adam allowing Eve to be beguilded by the snake was him forfeiting his dominion over earth (and ri the devil) by listening to an animal that he had authority over.

  • @ItsDJNuName
    @ItsDJNuName 27 днів тому

    I'm gonna need y'all on this panel to actually be led by the Spirit and KNOW the Father's heart & will. He hasn't changed His order of operation at all. So to say you're ok with letting the Lord use whoever He wants, isn't His will! He's called MEN FIRST. He uses women when MEN don't step up.

    • @ItsDJNuName
      @ItsDJNuName 17 днів тому

      @@sunnydays6237 very aware & can quote it. Why the reference?

  • @A_J___
    @A_J___ 28 днів тому

    Something I wish I could do is understand the stories or messages of the Bible. I just understand or extract individual Bible verses, but not really see the narrative of each story like they were able to describe in this episode. Like how one of them said I think Sarah was nagging someone? I don't think I could have picked up on something like that when I do my daily Bible reading. They make the Bible more tangible and relatable to everyday life...which is why I just subscribed.

    • @junowho42
      @junowho42 27 днів тому

      @A_J___ You will have to actually read the bible like you would a regular book. Starting at the beginning, going verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book for the purpose of context and narrative.
      Pray before reading, asking God for understanding and wisdom to hear what is being said. Pace yourself, if your mind begins to wander reread from the last thing you remember reading, or take a break and pick up once refreshed mentally. At night, mediate on what you read, replay the story in your head, ask questions about it, ponder the meaning, implications, and so on. The Word is living and active. If you dont know a word look it up. Every word is valuable in the word of God try not to glance over any of it, value every word. And again ask, seek, knock concerning what you are reading (go to God asking Him about His word). God say if you draw close to Him, He will draw close to you. Scripture say to study to show thyself approved. Therefore you have to do the leg work.
      I pray that the Lord give you the desire of your heart in your quest to understand the scriptures. 🙏🏿 Be Blessed! AMEN

  • @camiwar-yx3fb
    @camiwar-yx3fb 26 днів тому

    The reason we are here is because we are a love gift from the Father to the Son. John 6, John 17, Hebrews 2.

  • @mama-nono3652
    @mama-nono3652 5 днів тому

    The scriptures say Eve was deceived but ADAM WAS NOT DECEIVED. This means that Adam knowingly and WILLFULLY disobeyed God's commands of his own volition, not because Eve was wielding some "power" over him. EVE DID NOT "DOMINATE" ADAM. He was not tricked, coerced, hoodwinked, deluded or misled. He was FULLY AWARE, totally cognizant of what he was doing. The aspect of blatant willfulness in his disobedience was what made Adam's sin such a profound violation that it was why the scriptures also say THROUGH ADAM sin entered the world. But the various curses placed on the participants in the Garden shows that each one lost their ORIGINAL positions. So, Eve being dominated by man was NOT HER ORIGINAL place, it is a curse.

  • @gardenofozrecords7649
    @gardenofozrecords7649 28 днів тому +1

    I feel like Adam was sitting there chillin too because he was figuring Eve out AND all 3 of them (Adam, Eve, and the serpent) had been having this conversation regularly.

  • @lyssad626
    @lyssad626 27 днів тому

    If Eve wasn’t deceived, things would be different however, do you really think Satan would’ve stopped. He would’ve kept trying to deceive them. Maybe that’s the point….we can love God and do everything we can but the one moment we are tempted, do we give into it or obey God.

  • @crtart54
    @crtart54 27 днів тому

    Genisis 4:7 same terminology. Scripture interprets Scripture

  • @mountainmover.s
    @mountainmover.s 3 дні тому

    Idk i personally feel like you all are saying Adam was just chilling and that Eve eating the fruit was her taking the dominant position because Adam failed ?
    That's so incorrect.
    Genesis 3:2-4 KJVAAE
    [2] And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: [3] but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. [4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
    Its CLEAR as day that Eve knew that she was not to eat from that tree bc God has said not to through Adam telling her what God told him.
    It seems like you all are forgetting that it was DISOBEDIENCE that got them casted out of the garden !
    DISOBEDIENCE.
    Because if we blame it on adam, then we are saying Eve has to take no accountability.
    She knew what not to do.
    Also, later in the new testament. Someone makes a reference to Eve. Which im paraphrasing, "didn't the woman get tricked by the serpent?"
    I think yall gotta go back and have Bibles open on the table to read it.

  • @THENEWMrYungT1992
    @THENEWMrYungT1992 7 днів тому

    12:40 The Book of Jubilees or Little Genesis will explain to you that Adam was deceived by Eve AFTER she had already taken the bite. She came to Adam later to bring him the fruit to eat and he did. Immediately after eating, he knew what had happened and was mad because he knew what that meant for him within God!

  • @TRACKMAJORS
    @TRACKMAJORS 27 днів тому +1

    A snake in a garden would not have looked unatural to adam... 😊😊😊

  • @beautytyc7
    @beautytyc7 27 днів тому

    I thought in God’s word Adam and Eve were equal at that time, before they sinned. Then God changed things. He changed the order between Adam and Eve after they sinned. Adam wasn’t beguiled, Eve was. I believe because Adam loved Eve and didn’t want to lose her because he remembered that God said if they eat from that tree they would die. Eve ate before she handed it to Adam so I personally thought he knew she’d die so he made a choice to die with her. Eve told God the serpent beguiled her, confused her, him being the Author of confusion…still. The her, Eve’s place became subservient to Adam after that. Probably God thought He should’ve made it that way in the beginning then Adam would’ve told Eve no, we’re not going to do this and maybe Eve would’ve followed. But, God created them with free will as well as with every human being. Very good discussion. I could discuss it all day, lol. So, is the war going on between men and women because of men? Or women? I believe both, lol. We need to follow God’s design in everything especially the marriage and relationships (order) between men and women.

  • @garrickwes
    @garrickwes 8 днів тому

    Scripture also does say “Eve was deceived, not Adam” but he was in a way deceived or allowed it. Eve was deceived but sin came through Adam. It doesn’t say Eve was deceived and Adam sinned. That’s not scripture lol c’mon y’all!! Ppl will take this and run with it if you don’t say what’s written. It matters.
    Adam dropped the ball, Adam knew the word and didn’t stand on it, and Eve knew the word and didn’t believe it. Adam represents the head of the marriage which is why sin came through him.
    1 Timothy 2:14-And it was not Adam who was deceived by Satan. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result.

  • @ministerrcg
    @ministerrcg 28 днів тому

    The young lady appears to have been taught correctly concerning the interpretation of the text. You are really discussing one of the main passages of Scripture known as the "Fall of Mankind" which brought "the curse" which really is five curses, Creation (earth) itself became cursed, the animals became cursed, the serpent became cursed, the woman became cursed, and the man became cursed. I don't have the time or space to elaborate, but Eve was deceived into taking from the tree because of what was in her. Genesis 3:6 reveals the lust of the eyes (she saw it), the lust of the flesh (it looked delicious, good for food), and the pride of life (she desired to have the wisdom), which is all of us. But even though Eve was deceived, Adam made a choice to eat from the tree. This is why nothing happened until Adam ate. His choice was willful disobedience. But God did not leave mankind hopeless because He promised the Savior in 3:15.
    The curse on the woman does include both her desire for intimacy and to rule over her husband, regardless of whether he is submitted to God. We do not see that qualification in the text, which is why women must be sure the man she marries is submitted to God before they get married because the curse says he will rule over her.
    As it relates to women stepping up in the place of the man, we have another account in the book of Judges where the Prophetess Deborah was forced into that position because the man God called to lead, would not do and she was thrust into the position. So we see in Scripture that women will do what is necessary for the family or for the nation, as in the case of Deborah and Israel. There is so much more to be said about this subject, but I must leave it there for now, but happy to answer any questions about it. By the way, Ryan, I believe it was you who mentioned what happened with the fall of Satan was the start of it all, you are on the right track.

  • @kingpreach3957
    @kingpreach3957 27 днів тому

    27:34 Sarah wanted to be God just as Eve wanted to be God…that is the desire. Hedonism. That is why often times in pagan religions the women are the “priest” and nature is glorified above its creator.

  • @txLALA
    @txLALA 27 днів тому

    God brought the woman to Adam, just like he’d brought everything else to him, and Adam named her like he had named everything else. He was given dominion over the world, and woman was created as his helper.
    Adam didn’t own his position as protector by covering the woman, and then he deliberately disobeyed God by breaking the one law he’d been given. And like the cowards of today, his first impulse was to blame the woman.
    If Eve had an innate desire to behave unnaturally/sinfully, that would mean God’s creation was not perfect because she was already exposed to evil. God’s creation was perfect until they ate the forbidden fruit.
    The lesson we should learn from this is that the onus is on men, and yet to this day, men are constantly pointing the finger at what the woman does. And worst of all, men still sit idly by passively letting everyone be lead astray. It’s no wonder so many women think they can do better.

  • @zrus343
    @zrus343 24 дні тому

    We have to consider Adam and Eve had free will. Free will allows us to choose right or wrong. If there was no free will Adam and Eve would be robots. God gets no enjoyment from having robots. The Bible talks about God enjoying our free will obedience like a sweet fragrance.

  • @garrickwes
    @garrickwes 8 днів тому

    Nahhh, lol her desire of the curse was not before the curse. Desiring to rule over him as a curse why would it be a desire? The curse came because of the fall.

  • @bdoug87
    @bdoug87 20 днів тому

    Y’all kinda on a ‘minimizing the role of a woman’ type energy and that’s wild. A husband is a covering for his wife and family. The wife and members of the family can occupy roles of leaderships in the home and in the community without eliminating the husband’s role as a covering. Covering = Priest.

  • @user-vz6fx9qc6j
    @user-vz6fx9qc6j 27 днів тому

    If men would just be men then woman wouldn't have 2 step up in most cases women R left with no choice cuz a lot of men aren't men

  • @junowho42
    @junowho42 27 днів тому +2

    @10:00 mam you are putting your world veiw into the scriptures. The scriptures doesn't say the things you are saying.
    And Adam is a shadow of Christ. Jesus was made sin, who knew no sin, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. So just like Christ bore the sin of His bride (the Church) Adam bore his brides sin sharing in her death. He didn't leave Eve nor forsake Eve. Adam was faithful until death even the death of the forbidden fruit. The parallels are there. Jesus remained faithful even until the death of the cross, for the joy that was place before Him (His Bride the Church, His body).
    FYI to validate what i said hear what the scriptures say on the matter. 1 Tim 2: 13-14 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Amen 🙏🏿

  • @deborahw.215
    @deborahw.215 27 днів тому

    Sarah lacked the faith.

  • @bryceharvey4456
    @bryceharvey4456 28 днів тому +1

    She does not know how to read the Bible and its sad because Genesis chapter 1:1-3 is easy (KJV) and very understanding not what she said.

  • @Dreadboi1990
    @Dreadboi1990 28 днів тому

    Why would you look into the greek when that line of a woman ruling over a man was in Hebrew

    • @JaiClaire880
      @JaiClaire880 28 днів тому

      The Septuagint is the Greek translation of the entire Bible. The Jews translated the Torah into Greek during the time it was the primary trade language because the Jews were exiled and the younger generation were growing up without reading the Torah since they did not know Hebrew. If you ever see LXX in the margins or notes of the Bible, it’s short for Septuagint.

    • @oldschool5
      @oldschool5 28 днів тому +1

      Greek Septuagint is the oldest non fragmented old testament that we have. There is no non fragmented Hebrew old text that predates the Greek.

  • @LanMonique
    @LanMonique 14 днів тому

    Genesis 25:13 These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael,KEDAR, Adbeel, Mibsam…
    And if you jump to Jeremiah 2:10
    10 God declares “cross over the coast of Cyprus and send to KEDAR (Ismael’s Son/champ) and observe closely;
    11 Has a nation (KEDAR/Islam) ever changed it its Gods?
    ”yet they are NOT gods at all”.
    It’s clear that they do not worship the same god and they do not have the same blessings/promises.

  • @Dreadboi1990
    @Dreadboi1990 28 днів тому

    They didn't literally eat from the tree...so no eating from the other tree wouldn't had made them immortal. Believing and obeying God would have made them, kept them immortal

    • @oldschool5
      @oldschool5 28 днів тому

      What scripture says that they did not eat from the tree literally?

  • @Phenomenal205
    @Phenomenal205 27 днів тому

    This is dicey teaching around 4:35 minute mark. That is not biblical teaching. It is the man's erroneous thoughts being express publicly.

  • @Gnb496
    @Gnb496 18 днів тому

    No matter what God said no. Both were wrong and God gave Eve to Adam therefore Adam was responsible for her and shouldn’t have ate the fruit!

  • @vell082477able
    @vell082477able 28 днів тому

    PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU GET AT ME 😂 At 28:16 the ladies say they have choice words for Eve (and obviously they were joking) but my question is do we know (by scripture) that Adam and Eve are going to be in heaven? 🤔 I will go back and read but I don’t know. Also I believe there will be no negativity in Heaven. Because if there is then we’ll have a chance to sin all over again. Sis: Eve, Girl, why you eat that fruit and cause the fall to happen and make our lives so hard?! Eve: Girl who you?! Get out my face with all that! Just be happy you made to Heaven…. Now they scraping 😂. The human mind is so strange (I definitely include my own). Nobody will have choice words for anyone in Heaven… IMO.

  • @laureneboneaexum-german301
    @laureneboneaexum-german301 27 днів тому

    Sarai dominated her husband Abram.. against what YAH'S promise was. That's why Abram Fathered both Ishmael AND Isaac. Abigail dominated her husband Nabal..thats why her life and the lives of her maid and menservants were spared, YAH gott her husband outta there and then she became David's 2nd/3rd wife. These were HOLY women who saw that their supposed submitted to YAH, husband's, were either going the wrong direction, and reeled it back in, or made a wrong choice due to impatience.

  • @ninaminscooterjamlista5585
    @ninaminscooterjamlista5585 25 днів тому

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    You are my brothers and sisters in Christ even though we live in different countries different skin colors how lovely 😀👍🏼🙏🏻 amen big family God have 😍😍
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    All my siblings in Christ stop listening to them not maybe just do it
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  • @100ssgoku
    @100ssgoku 21 день тому

    🤦🏾‍♂️ he had mindset of a baby ! Read the Bible 🤦🏾‍♂️🕵🏽‍♂️🕵🏻🕵🏾🕵🏻‍♂️ 14:20