Can You Beat Pokemon Heart Gold Without Damaging Moves? (Status Moves Only Challenge)
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Most people who play Pokemon game just spam their Pokemon's strongest moves and pay little to no attention to Status moves. What if we did the contrary and played through Pokemon Heart Gold with ONLY Status moves and never used any Physical or Special moves?
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Here are two channels that did this challenge before I, if you liked this video you should probably check them out and see how their strategy differs from mine.
ER Alpha: ua-cam.com/video/y4FxEmqhQto/v-deo.html
yungthan: ua-cam.com/video/VU3LOzUQEl4/v-deo.html
for your jumpluff, you shouldve taught it leech seed, substitiute, and sleep powder/spore, the fourth move can be anything else good, this essentially makes your jumpluff a god, as it basically cant be hit
Is it Possible to Beat Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Boss Battles Without Dodging/Blocking?
But HG has more badges
how about a full on pacifist challenge, where you are not even allowed to attack the opponent.
rules:
no moves, only trowing pokeballs at the enemy,
{you are allowed to use a cheat that gives 999 "cherish&Heal/safari/luxury balls" }each meaning you have about 4000 rounds before you have to re-enable the cheat
{those pokeballs are not allowed to be used when catching wild ones} {since these pokeballs are useless and have no "extra" effect they are perfect for the challenge} when compared to the normal pokeballs
otherwise this challenge is impossible
you must beat the opponent by having him run out of PP and use struggle. so you must buy potions yourself. these are not allowed to be cheated in.
{for easier pacifist}
you are allowed to have 1 full stack of oran berries [999]. {these are the worst healing items} and are only to be used in a emergency at the start of the game, till you are able to hold your own when battling pokemons,
{so stock up on that sweet metapod EXP}
speed hacks are allowed
You evolved onix but not haunter? Why?
Haunter: WHO'S THERE? I'VE GOT A BELT AND IM NOT AFRAID TO HANG MYSELF WITH IT
But he's already dead.
@@NRF-ee6cp It's more symbolic than anything. It doesn't affect him but he succeeds in getting the message across.
You mean nail
The ending is so poetic.
Haunter, who carried the run also ended it in a sacrifice
Haunter deserves the hall of legends
@@TheChefEgg hall of mythics actually
You're now 2 away from your pre-2021 subgoal.
@@schmingbeefin4473 Uh cool, thanks?
Nice profile pic
Bro
Also u spoiled it
Haunter: I understand my only role here is to die and I accept that.
He is already "dead"
AlSt Bond NANI?
@@alstbond1379 Ghosts types are popularly assumed as dead Pokemon/People both in fanon and canon. Good idea man.
@@erlbencabuhat9803 yep, like those dead kids being a treantrum
Moral of the story: Curse is OP
However, the Non Ghost type version is actually better in Competitive. Ghost type version does shine in Story Campaign.
ShadowtitanX eh, curse still isn’t very good in competitive, only good for physical attackers who don’t care about the speed drop
@@esqimo6647 It was busted gen 2. That's the extent of things. Most Pokemon prefer dragon dance or swords dance if they're physical set up sweepers. If nothing else, bulk up is almost strictly better unless you're under trick room or using gyro ball or some ridiculous strategy I forgot.
@@DrDrao Well yeah but that was because there were very few boosting moves in gen 2, and also because it fit snorlax so well due to his high attack being boosted, as well as his low defense being boosted, being helped by his high natural special bulk. Swords dance was limited, and calm mild, bulk up and dragon dance didnt exist.
@@esqimo6647 There were other curse users than lax, but lax really is the poster boy of the move, isn't he.
The only Pokemon that's been consistently using the move beyond gen 2, as far as I can remember is muk.
I can imagine Nurse Joy seeing you walk into the Pokémon center and yell “Curse?! AGAIN?!”
Red: "I've never met a trainer this...annoying."
Actually he would say:"..."
@@Rubinian. He WOULD say the original comment because it was that annoying.
Fine&Dandy's he doesn’t talk at all
You fool, you haven't seen the true test of annoyance. I know one guy who PP-stalled Red's entire team in Pokemon Gold, in a Nuzlocke, and with much lower levels than Red himself. A true pacifist run.
@@supercuz8300 That's the joke. He doesn't talk but since the battle was so annoying, he'd use what vocal chords he has to talk
Stall smogon players: I see you are man of culture as well.
Goddammit, Toxapex
@@tofuuuuuuuuuuuuu yaa dude one sweeped my entire team
Toxapex is a perfectly balanced Mon with low defense stats, high as balls offensive stats, and 100 health.
@@cjdziesiuta1995 Toxapex almost has as much attack as Shuckle, who has 230! That's not balanced!
@@cjdziesiuta1995 s-surely you're jesting right?
We all know who the real pokemon MVP is and thats Haunter going full Kamikaze on em.
Missed oppurtunity to call Haunter Seppuku
His haunter must have hated him! Doesn't letting your Pokemon faint too often make them lose affection?
it also feels sad that he didn't evolve haunter.
@@butteredsalmonella He had no friends with the Gen 2 remakes...
sad
Fun fact: You can beat Gengar with any normal type that has a status move. Gengar has Shadow Ball, Sucker Punch, Hypnosis and Mean Look. Meaning he can only damage normal types with Sucker Punch, which doesn't work when the foe uses a status move.
So just spam the status move with the normal type, let Gengar run out of PP and struggle to death, then finish off the rest of Morty's team.
I did this with an eevee. He used mean look on it. I laughed as five minutes went by of his moves not working. Finally struggle kicked in
Chaos Flame 1124 I remember when Marilland beat it with a freshly-caught Stantler. Good times.
Credit to you for grinding as much as you had to. Getting your pokémon's levels equal to the champion's already takes ages, so getting them overlevelled must have felt like an eternity. Recently I played through the game again, and I really couldn't be bothered grinding, so I took on the Elite 4 and Champion with a team of Level 40s.
Did this with the hatched togepi
I actually remember trading over a Bibarel for shits and giggles as a kid and flattening his Gengar.
This Challenge: **exists**
Taunt: I'm gonna ruin this man's whole career.
As stated in the rules, he would probably throw pokeballs until the taunt ends
@@C4lmaria or switch
Mean look + Taunt + obligatory Tournament = Dead Run.
@@HardGuess You can just purposely faint the pokemon taunted.
@@butteredsalmonella yeah but you can use taunt more than once. Bonus points if he's faster and immune to poison.
Yeesh, level grinding in normal runs of HGSS is already annoying. You’re a trooper
well, HGSS has the lowest average level of mid-end game battles of all games in the series.
iambubba123 I’m most curious to see how he actually grinded in this run
Lucky Paola Studios I used to do that too lol
@@smilinggeneral8870 It also has low -level wilds.
@@cloudycanine9682 fast forwarding. it is said that he took 300 hours of playtime to do this. in reality, it only took like 200-ish (don't get me wrong, it is still considered too long). let's say he plays this 5-8 hours a day. it took around one month to complete this.
Clair's tantrum kinda makes sense here if I'll be honest, that one could have gone either way.
What an awesome challenge. This caused you to play pokemon the way it was intended. You caught and trained pokemon to help out in specific fights and had to really use your whole team to succeed. Normally you just need to select the move that is super effective against your opponent and once you faint your opponent's pokemon, get a free switch to whatever pokemon can repeat this against the next pokemon.
What you stated at about 23:30 is so correct. Gamefreak doesn't need to keep implementing gimmicks like Dynamaxing to make pokemon interesting. They need to embrace the deep systems already in place.
Dynamax is painfully cheap mega evolution. And they basically abandoned it in gen 7 where you can't get it till post, and you need to buy them from the royal dome.
The thing is that video games have a target audience. Pokemon's target audience is children.
You know what appeals to children? "And you can make your Pokemon grow MASSIVE and do SUPER COOL SPECIAL MOVES!!!"
You know what doesn't appeal to children? "And if you look up the table, and compare these two rows, you can see these two moves interact in a really interesting way that might really boost some Pokemon's usefulness!"
If you want deep systems to be enhanced and focused on, you're going to have to move on to Pokemon alternatives. Or at least support them and help build a market where they are financially viable.
Best online speech I've ever seen
Executive Petrel should be the new champion
Magic guard pokemon: I'm going to end this mans whole career
Yes!
*career
Magic Guard doesn't block Curse.
Confusion, Destiny Bond and Perish Song will go through Magic Guard, according to the wiki.
PROFY
Curse: I’m gonna stop you right there.
"The best choice here is Chikorita" is not a phrase you hear often.
@Mason Abney chikorita is definitely not the best starter for the main campaign
Its weak agaisnt falkner, bugsy, and morty
Meganium has good enough stats/moves to be useable for main campaign
@@jawadtufaif7208 Mhmm. It gets worse. Especially the end of Johto arc. IE: Clair and Lance. Koga and Karen.
bazinga haha bulbasaur literally makes the game go easy mode
@@goobols Bulbasaur. Turtwig. Chespin (everything for xy is easy so eh)
I really think they purposefully didn't allow you to get Stealth Rock before reaching Kanto because it would make Lance too much of a joke
shytende aka Tamanoir steath rock is the perfect example of how no effort is made to balance singles instead of doubles, it just snaps singles in half even though it’s just sorta ok for doubles.
@@Skullhawk13 Especially against a Flying Type Champion, like Lance is in his first battle.
Actually, the reason it you wouldn’t be able to get it pre post-game is because it wasn’t introduced until generation four. Though still that does not undermine how broken of a move stealth rocks is.
@@StompyRoA Roost wasn't introduced before Gen 4, and it's your first Gym TM in the remake. So that logic doesn't really work.
@@albabimam1114 cough* dyantha *cough
Her only good mon is guardevoir mega which Aegislash(on of the most popular pokemon on an x and y playthrough) walls to hell and back.
"Denying all pokemons' hopes of hitting me by walling, while waiting for them to faint themselves out of confusion"
Hmm... A status team, yet no shuckle?
I have severely underestimated how effective status moves on everyone is
Status moves are vey niche in adventure mode, since the trainer teams warrant you to spam attacking moves instead. They have much more use in competitive.
moves like swords dance, dragon dance and nasty plot are very useful ingame IMO
@@xyzzy-dv6te dd is broken
Percentage based damage......
Thats why miltank is easy here.
PKLove Deci setup tend to be broken in game. Trainers have a habit of leading with their worst mons. This makes setup moves have a tendency to be especially game breaking. A lot of ‘tough’ fights are made laughably easy if you set up like just about any Cynthia fight due to her leading with spiritomb ghesitis due to leading with a toxic staller of all things in a game where you have exactdrill a mon that made it to ubers and naturally learns swords dance ect.
"the best choice here is Chikorita"
Words that have never before been spoken
No room for ROAR/WHIRLWIND to combo with spikes?
Also PERISH SONG, LIGHT SCREEN/REFLECT, PAIN SPLIT, SUBSTITUTE.
SUB-SEED is actually viable in competitive battles.
verdade, eu teria colocado o skarmory no lugar do steelix, admiro a paciência dessa pessoa por não ter usado alguns desses moves
I cheese both Clair and Lance using Lapras's perish song
was pain split even in the game at the time?
@@autumnleaving i think it was
@@autumnleaving It was created in gen 2 GSC. Obviously it would exist in their remakes.
Elite Four, the toughest trainers before endgame stuff.
THE MAN BRINGS A LEVEL 20 ONIX TO THE ELITE WITH FIGHTING SPECIALITY. AND WINS.
19:15 I've never seen anyone have a legitimate reason to use the move Memento before.
The move is great on a suicide dual screen Latios lead.
I've seen that in HyperOffense (AKA the noob strategy but well done) to give your frailer teammates chances to sweep. But NEVER AGAINST hyperoffense like Lance's team.
It's probably the worst move ever.
Lol, that just shows that you've never bothered to make it work. Which it can do. There's way way way worse moves than Memento, my dude.
Looking at this, I wanna try this challenge is Ultra Sun and Moon. Salazzle would work wonders, but the Ultra Dimension stuff is where it would get interesting. I'd have to do Rainbow Rocket too, of course. Thanks for the inspiration!
Well what starter would you choose?
@@Gamer27King Quite honestly? No idea. Not many useful status moves early on.
@@limbojimbo683 so how did it go from you remember
Everybody in chat: Umbreon sucks
MysticUmbreon: Am I a joke to you?
I thought Umbreon was an overpraised Pokemon but then they introduced Wooloo and it took that title instantly. Remove the grey hair and it's *literally* a generic round cartoon sheep.
I mean competitive wise, Umbreon and the other eeveelutions do get the short end of the stick
Hey I didn't say that Umbreon sucked! He's not good at dealing damage by itself but it's great at supporting a team.
But I think the praise for it is a bit overblown.
And while I've never seen a MysticUmbreon video myself, I can tell his content is pretty "typical Pokétuber stuff". That's not a bad thing either though.
Also as an added bonus of funny comment:
Blissey physical defense: (extremely low)
Magikarp: Uses tackle on blissey
Blissey: Ah #### here we go again
Shyguymask thats what i’ve been saying since it came out
This strategy makes Clefairy harder than miltank? Sign me up!
For those wondering how he got Steelix, you can get it without trading in the cave leading to the Safari Zone at about 3% encounter. So, no trading required.
This may not have been a super fun experience to record, but I just had a blast watching this, so thank you so much for putting in all that effort for this amazing video!
This is probably my favorite Pokémon challenge video on UA-cam. The amount of creative strategies and effort that went into playing the game with status moves is just awe inspiring to me. And while you may have not been the first person to do this challenge, you definitely made the best video about it.
You sir have done something that takes way too much patience, even for a pokemon game.
When people say you're too underleveled for Red and you show them this.
*Surprised Pikachu Meme*
I just realized silver has a golbat becuase "u GoT tO bE pOkemon FrEiNdShIp"
BTW did you Know that every Evil Team leader expect Getesis has a Crobat in their team
@@xlxnyx Knew that.
Oh and exclude Guzma and Luzamine too.
In USUM, Lusamine's Lopunny is an even better example.
I also have a Zubat right before Gym 1 and when my he evolves into Crobat (abt. lv 33). His Golbat still doesn't evolve. 😂😂
@@lorelo. Guzma isn't really an 'Evil Team Leader'. Team Skull isn't really evil; and he's working under Lusamine so he's not even the Boss really.
Also he's a Bug-type specialist.
“It’s time to unleash Blissey”
Chilling audio recorded moments before disaster
I'm sure you put a lot of _heart_ into this video.
Sorry, that joke wasn't exactly _gold._
You did that joke before the video even went live.
Can't blame you I see you everywhere now and that was a good joke
GOD DAMNIT.
He put his *soul* into this video
This joke needs a *silver* medal
Well he really had it in his SOUL
And this video was really SILVER
get it cause pokemon soul silver
These wordplays are CRYSTAL clear
Nobody:
OU Stall Mains: this video
That run seems like a *toxic* idea.
I feel like there's a seed leaching my life, and why do I keep hitting myself.
Op move list on a pokemon spikes leech seed toxic and rest never gave to switch and can do solo rib with it if wondering what Pokemon feroseed (I think that how its spelled)
Get it,toxic :)
Imagine doing this in a game where some trainers’ pokemon know taunt. XD
You're so underrated. When I saw your videos like the Partners in Time, Inside Story, and now this one? I hadn't realized you only have around 60k-ish subs, I thought you had at LEAST like 300-400k. This needs to get out there more. This is true commitment, and needs to be seen more.
15:41 When you get beat at your own game. Now Koga knows how it feels.
Thank you for bringing back the game that purified my childhood... and adding a great challenge!
Wow I've never seen someone beating red with low level Pokemon! Wow that's awesome!
Never even thought of a run like this.
I'm surprised no one thought about it until now as well.
@@Shyguymask ikr? Gamechamp should be ashamed of himself
@@Shyguymask imagine if wills xatus had magic bounce
"Struggle is also banned"
*Forces struggle on several enemies for farming*
Plays status type moves only run
𝗘𝗻𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝗱𝗮𝗺𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗯𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀
He means his own Pokémon can't use Struggle. Forcing it on them is fair game though.
This challenge: *exists*
Taunt: *no no no*
This challenge: *wait, that’s not how it works*
Koga: "I am the master of status moves!"
Shyguymask: *"Excuse me, you're in my seat."*
Shyguymask: *has time to kill for this challenge*
Executive Petrel: Hippity Hoppity, that thing is now my property.
This would've been SIGNIFICANTLY easier if you'd done the run on SoulSilver. Ninetales' Will-O-Wisp is both DoT and halves attack, making Walling most Poison/Steel Types child's play, and removes the reliance on Toxic Spikes vs Flying Types, but Vulpix is Version-Exclusive and the only other options require either the Safari Zone (Shuppet, Duskull), Breeding (Gastly, Koffing) or TM61 (which isn't available until the Battle Frontier).
Remember Emerald's Battle Palace, where you couldn't pick your Pokémon's moves, I wonder if someone could hack the entire game to behave like that.
That would be pure cancer.
I'd love to see that. Not sure if I'd want to play it to the end though...
I feel like this might've been easier if you used more Pokémon with curse, but I dunno.
The only ghost types with curse are gastly line and apparently he did a side challenge to only use one pokemon of each species
@@C4lmaria Oh, I didn't see anything about one Pokémon of each species in the video. Huh.
Lenare There isn't. Its just a house rule i guess
@@C4lmaria Ah, I see.
@@C4lmaria What kind of monster doesn't use only one of each pokemon species?
...i kinda want to do this myself now.
Seems like a huge waste of time, but okay
Do that with pokemon let's go pikachu/evee.
Gaym 2 ez
No, running into wild metapod and waiting until its pp ran out...... unless you allow yourself to get a headstart, i really recommend not to do it.
Undertale
Bad
"The best choice here is Chikorita"
SGM: *they called me a madman*
Edit: RIP Chikorita, replaced by Hoppip
In what universe would you underestimate Magnemite? Zone is a top tier threat that gets the job done, of course its child is strong as well.
😅 I usually have a Fight type pokemon, so I Force Palm them to faint 😅
Magnemite is also pretty good in LC
Specs magnetmite is stronger then lightball pikachu. That’s more pikachu being horrible though
Yes. If I want a really good Steel type, I'd always get myself something like Magnezone instead of the Lucario everyone loves.
Corrupt X's Status: Dead
After watching this video.
Corrupt X rip
Hi?
dope video. really really interesting to see someone elses perspective on this type of run. much love xx
Game: “You can’t defeat me”
Shyguymask: “I know but he can”
*Curse*
There's also roar which you get as a TM pretty early on. You can use that to phase through and keep applying spikes damage. If you were playing soulsilver instead you could have used Persian which has a high base speed and can also learn taunt and hypnosis
Bear in mind, Hypnosis is an egg move for Persian.
He just stalled every Pokémon in this game WoW 10/10
Boy, you made jumpluff, memento, destiny bond and spikes userfull in a casual playtrough
Wait... enemies can hit themselves when they're confused? Never happened to me
Are you serious? You've never had that happen? It's literally an integral part of confusion
@@ryeonspeed i figure he just means hes never won the 50-50.chance of hitting themselves
@@linzig32 that's highly unlikely
@@ryeonspeed indeed i figure he meant it as a joke based on how bad most peoples luck is with it.personally confusion usually wears off for me before the enemy hits themselves
Sweeping a Competetive player with status moves = Maximum Salt.
I always love when metronome brings out a super powerful move like Hyper Beam and Dragon Ascent. It's always funny.
This is the first ever documented good use of chikorita
"but try this challenge *without using trainer items yourself* "
YOU MANIAC YOU'LL GET US ALL KILLED
Maybe I’ll do this run of HGSS instead of playing Sword and Shield?
Any kind of playthrough on old Pokemon games is more preferable than playing Sword/Shield at this point.
Hmmm
Struggle only
You must only use struggle in every trainer battle
Meaning that you must drain all of your moves beforehand in wild battles
This person really just faced Red 20 levels below him and kicked his ass easier than they did Lance.
My bro: a real pokemon master doesn’t exi-
Me: shows him this video
Finally, a challenge channel that feels like I'm watching someone from my same neck of the woods. I can't believe how much Pokemon content I've watched and this is the FIRST where someone actually uses Speed Up functions. Yes. True content, no wasting time.
Pokemon With Magic Guard Ability: *Im About To End This Mans Whole Career*
I don't like undertale
Haunter? Oh you mean that kamikaze pokémon!
16:30 *Soccer Mom Karen wants to see your manager!*
This Karen actually is good
I do not know a single thing about pokemon and this was still entertaining.
More advanced version of how to Toxic stall
(That’s how I beat Ultra Necrozma btw)
Good stuff. People really need to fight smarter against the Ultra Necrozma boss, not fight harder.
Claire, Will, Koga and Lance are definitely having a mid life crisis and are coping with it by dressing up.
This is the only playthrough of this game where chikorita is the best choice
HAUNTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!
a minute of silence for our sacrificing hero that died at the end of the challenge....
Thanks for the tutorial on how to make a stall team
Let's thank the Metapod for it's existence here, it's what make this run not impossible.
ALL HAIL METAPOD
ahh i love see these guys doing pokemon a very difficult game where you need a lot of strategy. good luck in your next videos!!!
The amount of patience in this idea alone scares me and surprises in a level that cant be explained
Why not just use a team with Mean Look and Perish Song? I even cheesed countless Battle Spot PVP fights with that strategy.
When taunt is your worst nightmare.
Absolute madlad over here
I didn’t know you made Pokémon content! This makes your channel 10x better :D
How'd you get a water stone so early in the game to get Starmie?
By using the pokegear with fisherman Anthony I believe over near Mount Mort.
@@kylelundgren5133 thanks Kyle
Red’s last “...!” was most likely *“What the fuck just happened?!”*
Thanks for another amazing video! It was fun watching the premiere!
I remember that in my early days playing pokémon I pretty much ONLY used status moves...
and to my shame I did not do it strategically, I just was insistent on Hypnotizing, Sleeppowdering, Leech Seeding and Nightmaring my opponents because I thought it would make it look more stylish and lost a million times because of low accuracy...
Can you beat Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (any installments) using only regular attacks?
as long he can use item, it should be not a big challenge to him.
In the first 2, the regular attack is not that weak, so it shouldn't be a problem. In Super Mystery Dungeon, you can survive on items alone, though I don't remember how generous the game is at the beginning.
Worth noting 2 things:
1. You get less EXP from battles if you don't use a move
2. The "A" Attack is massively nerfed in Gates to Infinity and Super Mystery Dungeon to only deal 5 damage
@@caketemplary exp shouldn't be a problem because there is a loophole called revisiting old dungeons. But I'd like to see Rayquaza bow down to the A attack lord
I know it’s possible in BRT and maybe Explorers with a power band since the A attack does so much damage. I really don’t like how they nerfed it in Super though. Didn’t deserve that
This run is big brain. Forcing Red into a position to heal so you could use Curse, Destiny Bonding the Lapras with the MVP Haunter, and the final battle with Lance was just so much fun to watch
Jumpluff the absolute trooper
amazing! I love the disrespect there of walling pikachu with the level 48
I remember walling his Pikachu with a level 60-something Nidoking. His level 88 Light Ball Pikachu might hit like a truck but it's completely hopeless against many Ground types.
Magic bounce: I'm about to end this man's whole career
Same with Substitute and Taunt.
Magic Bounce didn't exist here.
when I read the title I thought that ANY MOVES THAT DO ANY DAMAGE IN ANY WAY AT ALL were banned (as in curse, leech seed, confusion moves, poison moves, burn moves etc were ALSO banned) and I was like "how the f is he even supposed to deal damage to anyone?!" lmao
Haunter was the MVP here
16:31 Managers playing Pokemon Heart Gold and seeing Elite Four Member Karen: o no
Just wanted to say that your yt name is perfect for Allister.
Props to you for gutting it out for a challenge like this. I’ve always thought about doing a challenge like this, so thanks for showing me an example of how it works!
In further generations this is easier...
Substitute
Toxic or something
Recover
Yea...
All of these moves have been in the game since generation 1 of Pokemon. I have yet to finish the video, but all of those moves are also usually TM learners, which are hard to come by.
@@Leader_Agam In HG/SS Sub comes from the game corner.
Toxic comes from Jasmine's Gym in Kanto.
Recover's a move he made use of often with his Starmie.
This run would be easier in SoulSilver, since you can get Vulpix in this game. It even learns Will-o-Wisp by leveling up. And, without trades, except Ninetales, it's the ONLY Pokémon to learn this move before entering the Hall of Fame. This makes it the great wall against Steel-types.
You can also catch Skarmory in Soul Silver, arguably your only viable option for a Steel-type wall before the postgame if you teach it Roost.
@@Shyguymask Skarmory is available once you get to Route 45, but Vulpix is available earlier.