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How to use Hairspray for 3D Printing Bed Adhesion Glue

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2019
  • Everyone has tried using hairspray at least once in 3D printing. We’ll walk you through how to use hairspray to not only style your hair, but to get your 3D prints to stick to the bed. It’s a mess to use so follow our guide on how to make sure you use it correctly.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 98

  • @Kendiyastro
    @Kendiyastro 2 роки тому +12

    I knew that hairspray was good for this. Never tried it before. After leveling my bed for the 8th time and getting a failed first layer everytime, I have searched for this video to learn how to apply it. Watched it, grabbed my mom's hairspray, sprayed it as shown. Started my print. Here I am staring at a gorgeous print being made. Amazing first layer stuck great. Thanks

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  2 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @messagetotheuniverse
      @messagetotheuniverse 2 роки тому +1

      Ive always used a layer of painter tape and a glue stick, works very well, ran out of glue stick so im here lol

    • @Kendiyastro
      @Kendiyastro 2 роки тому +1

      @@messagetotheuniverse after this i bought a glue stick... i never knew that would make my life much much easier. It is very hard to clean the hairspray but glue stick is much much better. Just a bit of water and wipe it off. Glue stick > hairspray. Hairspray is better for maybe larger projects

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 Рік тому

      If you have a removable flexible build plate, you basically have to add some kind of adhesive. I have never had good luck getting anything to stick on flexible removable build surfaces without some kind of adhesive. Hairspray works on 90% of plastic types. Glue stick will work for the rest. Spray away from the build plate and always clean up after using glue sticks. It can be a pain if you leave the glue on and keep reapplying.

  • @NPCSN
    @NPCSN 3 роки тому +13

    Great video. I appreciate you guys taking the time to put this information out there for us.

  • @erickowalchuk4818
    @erickowalchuk4818 Рік тому +1

    thanks for the idea for taking off the build plate. I have gotten L’oreal paris Elnett extra strength from my Shoppers It works so far I sprayed I spread with a paintbrush using layers is my first time, trying this hairspray with my glass bed

  • @librarymark
    @librarymark Рік тому +1

    I was struggling with PLA printing an item with a large footprint. Could not get the first layer to stick no matter what settings I tried. Then I tried some aquanet and wow - best first layer ever!

  • @shaunxthexmod777
    @shaunxthexmod777 Рік тому +1

    i was only thinking of doing this today! so i had to check, ,,nice one.. I just feel strange going to buy hair spray ,,with no hair,,,,,,lol

  • @tilmaen
    @tilmaen 2 роки тому

    do you know what the active chemical for adhesion in hair spray is? some hair sprays dont work for me. i found that ones that have copolymer in their ingredients tend to work a little better (but not perfect). sometimes they put dexpanthenol or other "care" substances (oily) in there that actually reduce your adhesion. Did you use the same stuff for your nano copolymer stuff?

  • @dbackscott
    @dbackscott 11 місяців тому +3

    I’ve found that the cheapest hair sprays (Aquanet, Suave, et. al.) are the best. Some of the fancier hairsprays seem to do worse, and I’m guessing it’s because of additives such as moisturizers, conditioners, and sun protectants.
    I’ve had great luck with cheap hairspray on my build plate, and I seem to need to reapply it once every couple weeks or so.

  • @generalkenobi9363
    @generalkenobi9363 Рік тому

    So question would this work on pei I fell like I can but want to make sure before I do

  • @Lil_blueskies
    @Lil_blueskies 4 роки тому +34

    Anyone else use their mons hair spray

  • @pNeurus
    @pNeurus 2 місяці тому

    I have a Sidewinder X2, i can't remove bed so easy. What's your advice?

  • @allenmawbey9987
    @allenmawbey9987 7 місяців тому

    Your videos are awesome. I'm new to 3d printing. Neptune Elegoo 4. I've been using the supplied glue stick. How do I get a trial sample of your adhesive.

  • @martyb2187
    @martyb2187 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks guys. I’m having issues with glue stick maintaining adhesion since starting to use eSun PLA+ hoping to give this a go today and make a cardboard booth to spray my glass plate in.

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому +3

      Probably easier and safer to get a sample bottle of ours, a single coating lasts 50+ pirints on glass in our experience :) but hairspray may help too!

    • @martyb2187
      @martyb2187 3 роки тому +1

      @@VisionMiner I don’t think you ship it to Australia though.

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому

      We do ship to Australia, but we also have a few dealers there :)

  • @spasecookee
    @spasecookee Рік тому +2

    Another reason to use hairspray is as a separation agent when printing PETG or TPU. A small layer of spray will help prevent the print from permanently sticking to and destroying your build surface.

  • @100roberthenry
    @100roberthenry Рік тому

    Do you wait for the hairspray to dry thrn print?.....

  • @MrsGURURCs
    @MrsGURURCs 3 роки тому +1

    Hi I have watched numerous videos about the hairspray and I am still confused. What I am confused about is I have never printed before do I use this with before I print my first thing or is this only to be used once the adhesion wears?

    • @steffenblake1039
      @steffenblake1039 3 роки тому +1

      Hey Shetika! You apply it typically before each print, it provides a stickier surface to stick to so you dont get issues with lifting or popping off mid print.

  • @badman2077
    @badman2077 4 роки тому

    Should i spray it with the build plate fully cooled down? As well as cleaning it, should i wait for to cool down to room temp?

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, generally --- and do it away from the printer, of course! For cleaning, some warmth will help get it off.

  • @tekjock
    @tekjock 2 роки тому

    So, what should you do if your build plate does not come out? i have a glass build plate and it is screwed in and not removable.

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  2 роки тому

      That's an interesting one... What machine is that? You can get Nano Polymer Adhesive, we just released the new $19 bottle!

  • @mohe81
    @mohe81 3 роки тому +1

    I already use hairspray, have the bed on 80°C and the nozzle on 215°C and my prints still lose contact to the bed after a few layers. The first layers are printing fine, but thant after maybe 3-5 layers some corners lift up. Any further suggestions? It`s an Ender-3 Max and I only print PLA so far.

    • @wskwong2000
      @wskwong2000 3 роки тому

      I have the same issue and actually the plate needs cleaning. Guess too much grease on mine.

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому

      If PLA isn't sticking at 80c, with hairspray, it's probably the wrong hairspray -- they all use different chemicals. You can get a sample of our adhesive at visionminer.com/sample, but it's strange you're not getting results at all at those temps...

    • @hasso0n
      @hasso0n 3 роки тому +6

      80c is too hot for PLA, 60c should be max for PLA.

    • @davidhuston1966
      @davidhuston1966 Рік тому

      The temperature recommendation is usually written by the manufacturer on each roll. So I would pay attention to that, also it depends on the printer. Cheaper printers use and require higher temps

  • @Matt-py3nx
    @Matt-py3nx 3 роки тому

    will this work for a tempered glass bed, or does it need to be normal glass? Also for cleaning, does it matter if it is 70% or 99% alcohol? Thanks!

    • @olivefarmer69
      @olivefarmer69 2 роки тому

      it does matter. 70% could damage the tempered glass. use 99%. sadly speaking from experience

  • @warrenjameson5465
    @warrenjameson5465 3 роки тому +1

    So how does this affect the leveling of your printer considering you are adding a layers of material to the plate? I don't see how you can level it AFTER the application without clogging the nozzle.

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому

      Well, it doesn't clog the nozzle, I can tell you that -- ideally you've already leveled and then set the z-offset.

    • @warrenjameson5465
      @warrenjameson5465 3 роки тому

      @@VisionMiner I gried the Hairspray, and Superglue to no avail only to find out the Extruder Gear handle is broke (not giving enough pressure for the gear to control Filament) and have ordered new parts.

    • @roadstar499
      @roadstar499 2 роки тому

      so if you level your bed ...then remove plate...spray...then put on same way is was...put a mark on it so you don't screw up...

    • @warrenjameson5465
      @warrenjameson5465 2 роки тому

      Since this post, I have been using Hairspray, and it works GREAT... Since the nozzle never touches the build plate, there is no reason to worry like I did about nozzle clogs. Thank you everyone for your replies...

  • @baljazz
    @baljazz 2 роки тому

    Samples still available?

  • @willasproth
    @willasproth 4 роки тому

    May have accidentally spray some on while the bed was on the printer, what should I do?

    • @masonbertsch4166
      @masonbertsch4166 4 роки тому +1

      I do it all the time and never think about it

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  4 роки тому

      Over time it can cause issues, cleaning everything out with alcohol is usually the best bet...

    • @stich1960
      @stich1960 3 роки тому +5

      Send it to me, it's not good anymore. I will dispose of it.

  • @wskwong2000
    @wskwong2000 3 роки тому

    After you apply the hair spray, how do you level your plate without wiping off the spray?

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому

      Simple answer: we don't use hair spray. It's not ideal. But you'd have to level it with the spray on... or before and guess the z-offset

    • @Duckers_McQuack
      @Duckers_McQuack 3 роки тому

      @@VisionMiner how do you achieve printing on glass without any additional adhesive?

    • @roadstar499
      @roadstar499 2 роки тому +2

      @@VisionMiner if you want to sell a product you should show it actually working and how good it works with various surfaces and materials and heat settings...

  • @f.anvary7783
    @f.anvary7783 Рік тому

    I suppose there are only some brands which work! I used a hairspray and the printbed became like nonstick pan!!

  • @danpandapotan
    @danpandapotan 2 роки тому

    man, in the end of video you sugest to use nano polymer adhesive, but how to clean and prep it ?

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  2 роки тому

      Just water or alcohol, it's super easy :) Look up the "how to nano polymer adhesive" video :)

  • @firefox00-7
    @firefox00-7 3 роки тому

    Trying to get a sample bottle and it cost 60 AUS just for shipping????

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому

      Hah! Yeah, shipping to Australia is terrible, which is why we have dealers over there :) Check out the product page, this should hotlink you to the section with dealers (see 3DPrinterGear in Australia): www.visionminer.com/adhesive#resellers

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому

      If you contact them directly, they should have samples available :)

  • @Ucceah
    @Ucceah 4 роки тому +8

    there's absolutely no need to use expensive iso! denatored/methylated ethanol, diluted to ~50% is far cheaper and just as effective as a degreaser

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  4 роки тому +1

      Depends where you buy it, it's not that much more. But yeah, it all works :)

    • @Lil_blueskies
      @Lil_blueskies 4 роки тому +4

      I use my moms hair spray so its free

  • @ellelephant
    @ellelephant 2 роки тому +2

    For UK printer folk, TRESemme number 3 firm hold (black and blue can) is the dogs doodahs.

  • @MOVIEKICKS
    @MOVIEKICKS 4 роки тому +2

    I tried Aquanet and got fish eyes in the surface finish of the hair spray. How do you get rid of fish eyes when applying the hair spray?

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  4 роки тому +1

      Not sure if that's possible... we just use our own Nano Polymer Adhesive now! :)

    • @MOVIEKICKS
      @MOVIEKICKS 4 роки тому +1

      Vision Miner Does your nano polymer apply without leaving fish eyes on the surface?
      Where can I get some of your nano polymer?

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  4 роки тому +1

      @@MOVIEKICKS Oh yeah, it's basically a mirror finish.... check it out: www.visionminer.com/adhesive

    • @MOVIEKICKS
      @MOVIEKICKS 4 роки тому +1

      @@VisionMiner I just checked out your webpage and it looks like great stuff.
      I have two questions before purchasing it:
      1. When brushing it on does the finished surface show brush streaks or does it self level sufficiently to eliminate the brush streaks?
      2. Is the bottom of the part that's against the print surface shiny or matte finish?

    • @styrokosh121
      @styrokosh121 4 роки тому +1

      lmao they see you

  • @davidbutler1857
    @davidbutler1857 3 роки тому +7

    Can't you just spray the hairspray on a towel and wipe the bed without removing it?

    • @Duckers_McQuack
      @Duckers_McQuack 3 роки тому +2

      Won't the towel then add unnecessary micro hairs with the glue from the towel binding with the print?

  • @user-mi3ig2tw5r
    @user-mi3ig2tw5r Рік тому

    i only spray when its on the printer

  • @paulmcdonald2742
    @paulmcdonald2742 3 роки тому

    that's a good tip you provide; spray glass outside the printer

  • @masonbertsch4166
    @masonbertsch4166 4 роки тому +2

    I do all the you tell me not to do 😅

  • @danielclauthier2090
    @danielclauthier2090 3 роки тому +2

    Here I sit. Covered in hairspray

  • @dantevahezleicaf2038
    @dantevahezleicaf2038 4 роки тому

    How about making adhesion with Hot glue gun ?

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  4 роки тому +2

      It would melt with the heat of the filament... and good luck getting it flat :)

    • @jjr1028
      @jjr1028 3 роки тому

      @@VisionMiner Already tried it. Doesn't work!

  • @Camusdemerac
    @Camusdemerac 4 роки тому

    What about ABS??

    • @huydoan9279
      @huydoan9279 4 роки тому +1

      Camus doesnt work for abs man...

    • @Camusdemerac
      @Camusdemerac 4 роки тому

      @@huydoan9279 yeah i bet theres too much temp around.

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  4 роки тому +1

      Our Nano Polymer Adhesive works GREAT with ABS!
      Glue stick works sometimes... depending on the part

    • @dantevahezleicaf2038
      @dantevahezleicaf2038 4 роки тому

      I was about to ask this! Abs is such a bummer material

    • @littlesnowflakepunk855
      @littlesnowflakepunk855 3 роки тому +1

      with abs you can take some acetone, mix in some bits and pieces from failed abs prints, and put a thin layer of that slurry on your print surface. just make sure ur acetone doesn't have any additives, and that you wait for it to dry before heating the printer. acetone is very flammable

  • @beastonrye
    @beastonrye 3 роки тому

    I had a print that wouldn’t stick at first and then I used this hairspray trick. It stuck pretty well but the problem was it stuck PRETTY WELL. I had to man handle it off. For those who try the hairspray trick use a very very thin layer of hairspray

  • @GREGELZZ
    @GREGELZZ 3 роки тому +2

    "Free sample" yeah nah fam you want $5 i feel t his video was just an advertisement to sell your crap, been using hairspray for ages with zero issues. also abit of sugar mixed in with water works well too

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому +1

      1. This video is several years old, you missed the free sample
      2. This wasn't designed for your basic materials, which do work find with stuff like hairspray or sugar (some of the time)
      3. It's a much stronger, more dynamic solution than hairspray or sugar, simply put
      4. Don't hate, just keep using hairspray til you need something for Nylons or PC, functional materials :)

  • @David.....
    @David..... 4 роки тому

    Just fyi to all...the sample is no longer free

  • @MamoruMoon666
    @MamoruMoon666 2 роки тому

    wait, you're saying to level the bed. Then remove the bed, use hairspray, and not relevel the bed. it would be near impossible to level the bed covered in hairspray. I've sprayed hairspray jsut find while my bed is on the printer. You can't think that I"m so careless as to not be able to spray hairspay like i spray bullets in a zombia apocolypse. c'mon. This video is completely ridiculous and useless unless you have an ABL system, and what's worse is they put a TON of hairspray on that play. You'd have to use a mallet to get the print off, just a few light spray will do you. this is not a useful video

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  2 роки тому

      The main point is, there are much better options, but in a pinch, it's to show people that it can, in fact, be used :)

  • @qwaurk985
    @qwaurk985 3 роки тому +1

    Load of bs. The free sample costs five dollars.

    • @VisionMiner
      @VisionMiner  3 роки тому

      And it's worth every penny if you're having adhesion issues :)

  • @joeyvigil
    @joeyvigil 2 роки тому

    Hairspray/glue is a pretty outdated technique

  • @lima4923
    @lima4923 10 місяців тому

    Guy on the right really, really reminds me of jayz2cents