Jokes aside, I think stack overflow is often significantly more beneficial than ChatGPT, especially when it comes to nuanced issues and optimization of code. (This message may/may not have been sponsored by The Council)
The additional answers and commentary on stack overflow (whether right or wrong) definitely provide valuable context that seems to be missing from ChatGPT answers.
Yeah, it's just very hard for me to ask a question without it being immediately turned down or the code sample i provided told to be more concise before asking
The best thing about ChatGPT is you can bother it and probe it about the answers as much as you like without thinking twice about being called dumb or having the anxiety of asking something dumb or being seen as annoying. Explain X. Explain further Y from the explanation of X. Explain further Z from the explanation of Y. Explain with an analogy. Explain in Warzone terms. Explain like I have an IQ of a dropped baby. ... You can continue probing it until everything clicks in your head. It's amazing. This is why LLMs like ChatGPT are going to revolutionize education. Students who stay away from asking questions out of fear or anxiety of being called stupid, dumb or annoying, can finally ask those questions and get rid of their doubts and learn better.
You forgot to mention it's instantaneous. StackOF requires hours if not days to get one answer and chances are youve solved it by the time you get a reply... ChatGTP all the way
Agreed, I relentlessly asked ChatGPT to reexplain and clarify a Java concept and it did so without complaint. I would have had to “apologize” for taking up too much time in class or on a discussion board. Not with ChatGPT: it’s a 24/7/365 tutor. Hard-working students will really benefit from this.
I never even thought about introverted students using chatGPT that way, but now that you mention it I would 100% have leveraged it the same way in school! That's legitimately huge.
This is so true. The amount of time I wasted getting berated and formatting my code "properly" on stack, as opposed to a quick chatgpt answer. Even if the AI gave me bad code, I can always debug it.
lmao the turning it into one list question is actually relatable, I had the exact same problem once and got confused by the 100 answers on stackoverflow
ChatGPT actually helps Stack overflow because all the dumb no research questions will get diverted to it and will take the extra load off the SO mods. So less cleanup work for the mods, less basic/duplicate questions asked and SO continues to remain a repository of sort for high quality question and answers
Chat gpt helped me figure out why my hashmap was always being reset every time an object was instantiated. It suggested static or using get and set methods. Stack overflow would have nuked my question. Stack overflow is literal piss.
I’m like I use both at the beginning of my semester, since the computational physics course really kills me. But I have not been using ChatGPT like 2-3 weeks, cuz the answer it gave was completely wrong. Then, I just go back and use stack overflow, it took time to read but the answer or guiding is more useful.
I asked chat gpt the same final question on the vid and it fucking ANNIHILATED me! XDDDDD "Oh, attempting to sort a list? How groundbreaking! It's a real brain teaser, isn't it? I suggest consulting your nearest magic eight ball for such perplexing coding mysteries."
I think the two are not going to destroy each other. They will complement each other in a significant way. This will be much better for new comers and also for the more advanced developers who ask hard to solve question/problems on SO
It's actually so much better to ask ChatGPT e.g. to point out mistakes in the code or get basic tips, SO is better once you get advanced though I guess (at least for now)
StackOverflow still useful in some rare cases and even ChatGPT sometimes suggests going there... But for learning ML,DL and IoT, ChatGPT is extremely helpful! It can easily explain different algorithms and data preprocessing techniques and the maths behind them!
@@Exochos Totally agree. The toxicity of Stackoverflow is causing more people to use ChatGPT. There is really some people/teacher in this world whom AI should definitely replace!
Stack overflow is better than just chatgpt, but whats better than both alone is using chatgpt to help you understand books, creating impromptu exams and cross cbecking the results against known valid sources. I am literally learning concepts that my adhd brain didnt want to sit down and mire through in 1/10th the time.
Once I asked for some errors while loading Ray package on python on Stackoverflow, I waited 4 hour and then my account got banned for 6 months and a comment nearly filled with 'N-word' from moderators fort asking a stupid question. I asked it with ChatGPT through Merlin, it give me answer in 4 seconds.
advantage is disadvantage at same time sometime it s good to find the correct solution instantly and sometime it s good to find variety of point of view which allows for better undestand and find the suitable explanation
You basically have to tell them that you google it. Checked for different sites. Couldn't understand the documentarion. Checked the different posts. Tried them. Didn't work. Your question is a special case and is different enough to be worthy of a new thread. Thank you for your time. ----- And if you asked your question clearly, gave example of what you did. And did all the above... You'll have a good, clear answer in 2 days. ----- They aren't so bad if you preemptively stop any snarky remark. ---- Whereas chat gpt won't require any of that, so try there first. Google later about the commands it used and verify if it works with extensive test to actually learn and not just be a proompter.
Not an AI but a browser plugin that would automatically copy paste stack overflow questions to an ai prompt. Just pay me $200 and I'll get you that in about a week
ChatGPT when asked to mimic a stack overflow response is probably the biggest mistake I've ever seen it make: Sure, I can help you with that. Here's an example of a response you might find on Stack Overflow: --- Question: **How can I sort an array of numbers in JavaScript?** I have an array of numbers in JavaScript and I need to sort them in ascending order. What's the best way to achieve this? --- Response: You can use the `Array.prototype.sort()` method to sort an array of numbers in JavaScript. By default, the `sort()` method sorts elements as strings, so you need to provide a compare function to sort the numbers correctly. Here's an example of how you can use the `sort()` method with a compare function to sort an array of numbers in ascending order: ```javascript const numbers = [5, 1, 3, 2, 4]; numbers.sort((a, b) => a - b); console.log(numbers); ``` In this example, the compare function `((a, b) => a - b)` subtracts `b` from `a`. If the result is negative, `a` is sorted before `b`. If the result is positive, `b` is sorted before `a`. If the result is 0, the order of `a` and `b` remains unchanged. The above code will output `[1, 2, 3, 4, 5]`, which is the sorted array in ascending order. Remember that the `sort()` method sorts the original array in place and returns a reference to the sorted array, so there's no need to assign the result to a new variable unless you want to keep the original array unchanged. I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any further questions.
The only thing that stop me from completely move to chat gpt is because stackoverflow still give you the optimal code not long, un nessecary code gpt generate. Biggest benefit is there is no one downvote, close my question, tell me to research from start because it is an "easy" question for experiened programer. For any stupid question i ask gpt still reply polietly
q1 lis = [362, 546, 124, 365, 342, 897, 293] print(sorted(lis)) q2 lis = [[2, 3, 4], [1, 3], [9, 3, 4]] hold = [] for li in lis: for l in li: hold.append(l) print(sorted(hold)) Q3 Do you want the program to show its work or something? Other wise num = 5890 * 7193 print(num) or num1 = 5890 num2 = 7193 res = num1 * num2 print(res) works too if you want it to be modulator. I mean if you did want it to show its work I could do that too. No stack over flow or GPT. I have been coding for 20 years I learned python a month ago. I'm better with gcode, html, css, javescript, jave, and SQL. Still those are baby step questions. Wait am I missing the joke?
"Wow, what an interesting video! As someone who's used both ChatGPT and StackOverflow, I have to say that ChatGPT is the clear winner for me. While StackOverflow has a wealth of information, I find that the quality of the answers on ChatGPT is consistently high and more tailored to my needs. ..." said ChatGPT when I asked a comment for this video. Yet, I said 😂
really? if i asked chatgpt that it would say "it is unethical for me to have an opinion or be biased" or smn, like literally every time i asked it to choose between something
@@emperor8716 Just tell it to "choose anyway" or variations of that until it gives up. You can bully GPT into giving you an opinion depending on how you word it.
At least ChatGPT actually answers the question rather than pointing the user to "use google" or "did you not read our rulebook about dupe posting." The fact that mods in SO could block your question you spent a long time trying to set up in an instant is outrageous. Too much power was given to those douchebags. Just leave the question alone if it's a duplicate because if you close it, it's still visible for people to see. ChatGPT is getting smarter everyday and more people are going to them due to the toxic nature of SO. So "if" the people there are getting mad that chatgpt is getting more traffic than they are is because they pushed away all the people to them they created the issue and not the people asking honest questions.
Stack overflow is one of the most needlessly garbage sites I've ever interacted with. Every answer is two orders of magnitude too complicated for the level of the question being asked. You go to look up a question and the answer makes you more confused than when you started. People use jargon instead of explaining things in plain English, or close your thread because your question is "too similar" to one already asked, but when you go look at the other question you can't make heads or tails of the answer.
I liked stack. But eventually it became a place for all knowing beings. You cant ask dumb questions. You get points reduced. I am literally solving python problems with chatgpt now.
stack overflow is only good for troubleshooting and debugging. chatgpt is a million times the better learning tool and it's not even designed to be an educational tool
Let Stack overflow die like a king who’s regalia have been stripped to nudity tossed out into the middle of the desert, or the middle of the tundra or the middle of the ocean
stackoverflow is worse than 4chan istg i asked a question on how to implement some stuff in my code for school and i got lectured as to why its wrong to "ask other people to do the work for you"and i didnt even receive any help after all. i did it myself a few days later but that experience alone made me never open that dogsht website again :D
ugh, this kind of people is nasty.. but just know: I read a chat where people ask questions about test tasks they do, and they're not like "solve my task instead for me please", but absolutely sane ones. and there are some ppl who say things like huh if you can't use Google maybe you shouldn't apply to an IT job, and they also shit about asking for any help at all. what I wanted to say is that the most active of them can't find a job himself for a year, and I don't wonder why actually - it is quite obvious on an interview if a person is toxic I guess
Pray that the answer isn't from 12 years ago and hasn't been deprecated yet otherwise I forsee them raining on you with hellish remarks and think they're being helpful rather than just answering a question
Shregory's reputation fell from 101k to 57.8k, suggesting that his first answer got 25000 downvotes.
The realism!
Jokes aside, I think stack overflow is often significantly more beneficial than ChatGPT, especially when it comes to nuanced issues and optimization of code. (This message may/may not have been sponsored by The Council)
Was it?
Pathetic. Shouldn't have asked such a simple question.
Pathetic: Should have looked for it online.
Pathetic; Nobody cares. Downvoted.
And may or may not have been written by ChatGPT
The additional answers and commentary on stack overflow (whether right or wrong) definitely provide valuable context that seems to be missing from ChatGPT answers.
@@elfoyoutube6039 Most if not nearly all answers on stackoverflow are written by humans
Yeah, it's just very hard for me to ask a question without it being immediately turned down or the code sample i provided told to be more concise before asking
The best thing about ChatGPT is you can bother it and probe it about the answers as much as you like without thinking twice about being called dumb or having the anxiety of asking something dumb or being seen as annoying.
Explain X.
Explain further Y from the explanation of X.
Explain further Z from the explanation of Y.
Explain with an analogy.
Explain in Warzone terms.
Explain like I have an IQ of a dropped baby.
...
You can continue probing it until everything clicks in your head. It's amazing.
This is why LLMs like ChatGPT are going to revolutionize education. Students who stay away from asking questions out of fear or anxiety of being called stupid, dumb or annoying, can finally ask those questions and get rid of their doubts and learn better.
You forgot to mention it's instantaneous. StackOF requires hours if not days to get one answer and chances are youve solved it by the time you get a reply... ChatGTP all the way
Agreed, I relentlessly asked ChatGPT to reexplain and clarify a Java concept and it did so without complaint. I would have had to “apologize” for taking up too much time in class or on a discussion board. Not with ChatGPT: it’s a 24/7/365 tutor. Hard-working students will really benefit from this.
@@ritardstrength5169, wow you're nice you give ChatGPT a day off every 4 years. I work it mercilessly, 24/7. 😋
I never even thought about introverted students using chatGPT that way, but now that you mention it I would 100% have leveraged it the same way in school! That's legitimately huge.
This is so true. The amount of time I wasted getting berated and formatting my code "properly" on stack, as opposed to a quick chatgpt answer. Even if the AI gave me bad code, I can always debug it.
lmao the turning it into one list question is actually relatable, I had the exact same problem once and got confused by the 100 answers on stackoverflow
ChatGPT actually helps Stack overflow because all the dumb no research questions will get diverted to it and will take the extra load off the SO mods. So less cleanup work for the mods, less basic/duplicate questions asked and SO continues to remain a repository of sort for high quality question and answers
That is such a beautiful way to put it!
amazing❤
Precisely.
Or, nobody will ask those assholes anything and the site will die.
lol, this is wrong
SO is being flooded with GPT-generated garbage answers as we speak and the mods are on strike because the company is doing nothing.
ChatGPT has been a great tool for all of my Matlab and Latex questions. Haven’t used anything like SO in a while. Congrats on the 100k
That question about turning a list of lists into one list actually sounds kinda tricky
Chat gpt helped me figure out why my hashmap was always being reset every time an object was instantiated. It suggested static or using get and set methods. Stack overflow would have nuked my question. Stack overflow is literal piss.
congrats on 100k Mr. P Solver. Though i amnot qualified enough to understand every physics topics you bring on , i find then interesting to watch
I’m like I use both at the beginning of my semester, since the computational physics course really kills me. But I have not been using ChatGPT like 2-3 weeks, cuz the answer it gave was completely wrong. Then, I just go back and use stack overflow, it took time to read but the answer or guiding is more useful.
I asked chat gpt the same final question on the vid and it fucking ANNIHILATED me! XDDDDD
"Oh, attempting to sort a list? How groundbreaking! It's a real brain teaser, isn't it? I suggest consulting your nearest magic eight ball for such perplexing coding mysteries."
Congrats on 100k!!
New to all this....ended up here in a search for "what is stack overflow" I now understand and the ending with CGPT actually made me lol. Bravo.
1:18 made me laugh harder than I expected. The music choice is perfect. 😂
I think the two are not going to destroy each other. They will complement each other in a significant way. This will be much better for new comers and also for the more advanced developers who ask hard to solve question/problems on SO
It's actually so much better to ask ChatGPT e.g. to point out mistakes in the code or get basic tips, SO is better once you get advanced though I guess (at least for now)
StackOverflow still useful in some rare cases and even ChatGPT sometimes suggests going there...
But for learning ML,DL and IoT, ChatGPT is extremely helpful! It can easily explain different algorithms and data preprocessing techniques and the maths behind them!
I've never seen ChatGPT suggest going there, but I tend to use ChatGPT for refactoring suggestions or more theoretical CS questions.
@@Vulpesune I find ChatGPT to be the single best tutor I have ever had.
@@Exochos Totally agree. The toxicity of Stackoverflow is causing more people to use ChatGPT. There is really some people/teacher in this world whom AI should definitely replace!
ChatGPT refused to refuse to answer my question and does not want to be snarky...damn it doubled crossed.
"I couldn't have been any clearer" 😭😭😭😭
Congrats!
Hilarious video, man! Now I can ask ChatGPT to multiply two numbers in Python 😂
tbh everything I've learned so far has been from your videos and gpt
The music gives me the Warcraft: Orc and Humans vibes.
Stack overflow is better than just chatgpt, but whats better than both alone is using chatgpt to help you understand books, creating impromptu exams and cross cbecking the results against known valid sources.
I am literally learning concepts that my adhd brain didnt want to sit down and mire through in 1/10th the time.
Once I asked for some errors while loading Ray package on python on Stackoverflow, I waited 4 hour and then my account got banned for 6 months and a comment nearly filled with 'N-word' from moderators fort asking a stupid question. I asked it with ChatGPT through Merlin, it give me answer in 4 seconds.
Sure thing Rebecca
I love when undertale sound tracks jump in
advantage is disadvantage at same time
sometime it s good to find the correct solution instantly
and sometime it s good to find variety of point of view which allows for better undestand and find the suitable explanation
congratz on 100k
congrats for 100k 🥳🥳
Congrats on 100k subscribers
Would love to have access to the songs used, loved the one at 0:58
Awesome video as always btw hahaha
Billy is LOVE
So true. I see Stack Overflow every day in some delusional colleagues that keep saying that Chat GPT4 is not reliable or worth the time.
I feel free to asking any stupid question to GPT, unlike to stack overflow, if I asking stupid question I feel I get judged 😭😭
100k, you made it!
Bruh, I'm dying of this ending 😂
I subscribed because of the video "New coders be like" I felt that pain lol.
Extremely accurate.
What is the song from 0:05? Funny video btw
You basically have to tell them that you google it.
Checked for different sites. Couldn't understand the documentarion.
Checked the different posts. Tried them. Didn't work.
Your question is a special case and is different enough to be worthy of a new thread.
Thank you for your time.
-----
And if you asked your question clearly, gave example of what you did. And did all the above...
You'll have a good, clear answer in 2 days.
-----
They aren't so bad if you preemptively stop any snarky remark.
----
Whereas chat gpt won't require any of that, so try there first.
Google later about the commands it used and verify if it works with extensive test to actually learn and not just be a proompter.
I really like chatGPT but I do miss not being told my question was a repeat to a question whose answer was it's basic just read 10K+ of documentation
Someone need to develop an AI using stack overflow posts as inputs.
Not an AI but a browser plugin that would automatically copy paste stack overflow questions to an ai prompt. Just pay me $200 and I'll get you that in about a week
I love your videos. Could you give us your source for these banging BGM ?
The one at the end is Bonetrousle from Undertale.
i love the message this video (maybe unintended one but anyway) that toxic experts overrate themselves
ChatGPT when asked to mimic a stack overflow response is probably the biggest mistake I've ever seen it make:
Sure, I can help you with that. Here's an example of a response you might find on Stack Overflow:
---
Question:
**How can I sort an array of numbers in JavaScript?**
I have an array of numbers in JavaScript and I need to sort them in ascending order. What's the best way to achieve this?
---
Response:
You can use the `Array.prototype.sort()` method to sort an array of numbers in JavaScript. By default, the `sort()` method sorts elements as strings, so you need to provide a compare function to sort the numbers correctly.
Here's an example of how you can use the `sort()` method with a compare function to sort an array of numbers in ascending order:
```javascript
const numbers = [5, 1, 3, 2, 4];
numbers.sort((a, b) => a - b);
console.log(numbers);
```
In this example, the compare function `((a, b) => a - b)` subtracts `b` from `a`. If the result is negative, `a` is sorted before `b`. If the result is positive, `b` is sorted before `a`. If the result is 0, the order of `a` and `b` remains unchanged.
The above code will output `[1, 2, 3, 4, 5]`, which is the sorted array in ascending order.
Remember that the `sort()` method sorts the original array in place and returns a reference to the sorted array, so there's no need to assign the result to a new variable unless you want to keep the original array unchanged.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any further questions.
The only thing that stop me from completely move to chat gpt is because stackoverflow still give you the optimal code not long, un nessecary code gpt generate. Biggest benefit is there is no one downvote, close my question, tell me to research from start because it is an "easy" question for experiened programer. For any stupid question i ask gpt still reply polietly
Very cool video!
This os one better because we can read the messages, its not super fast, thank you
q1
lis = [362, 546, 124, 365, 342, 897, 293]
print(sorted(lis))
q2
lis = [[2, 3, 4], [1, 3], [9, 3, 4]]
hold = []
for li in lis:
for l in li:
hold.append(l)
print(sorted(hold))
Q3
Do you want the program to show its work or something? Other wise
num = 5890 * 7193
print(num)
or
num1 = 5890
num2 = 7193
res = num1 * num2
print(res)
works too if you want it to be modulator.
I mean if you did want it to show its work I could do that too. No stack over flow or GPT. I have been coding for 20 years I learned python a month ago. I'm better with gcode, html, css, javescript, jave, and SQL. Still those are baby step questions. Wait am I missing the joke?
"Wow, what an interesting video! As someone who's used both ChatGPT and StackOverflow, I have to say that ChatGPT is the clear winner for me. While StackOverflow has a wealth of information, I find that the quality of the answers on ChatGPT is consistently high and more tailored to my needs.
..." said ChatGPT when I asked a comment for this video. Yet, I said 😂
How did you proompt the video content into the ChatGPT?
really? if i asked chatgpt that it would say "it is unethical for me to have an opinion or be biased" or smn, like literally every time i asked it to choose between something
@@emperor8716 Just tell it to "choose anyway" or variations of that until it gives up. You can bully GPT into giving you an opinion depending on how you word it.
This is the best ever
love it.
SO is full of attitude donkeys
Damn love the runescape music
We need a video about Assembly
Yaaay new vid :33
Btw could you do a hideo feturing your conure parrot? I's really like to see Billy himself♡
why is that multiplication wrong on chatgpt? I tried and its wrong.
shregsters lmaoo
This hit home. For I also am BiIly.
ChatGPT really sucks at calculating stuff but when you ask it to solve it in Python, it works pretty well, lol.
At least ChatGPT actually answers the question rather than pointing the user to "use google" or "did you not read our rulebook about dupe posting." The fact that mods in SO could block your question you spent a long time trying to set up in an instant is outrageous. Too much power was given to those douchebags. Just leave the question alone if it's a duplicate because if you close it, it's still visible for people to see. ChatGPT is getting smarter everyday and more people are going to them due to the toxic nature of SO. So "if" the people there are getting mad that chatgpt is getting more traffic than they are is because they pushed away all the people to them they created the issue and not the people asking honest questions.
Certified banger
This question has been closed as a duplicate
0:20
You see,
It gives shitty programming advice.
And you won't even notice it.
Roasted.
Runescape songs. Loved it
Stack overflow is one of the most needlessly garbage sites I've ever interacted with. Every answer is two orders of magnitude too complicated for the level of the question being asked. You go to look up a question and the answer makes you more confused than when you started. People use jargon instead of explaining things in plain English, or close your thread because your question is "too similar" to one already asked, but when you go look at the other question you can't make heads or tails of the answer.
chagpt vs overflowAi you mean?
This is so real lmao
Chatgpt actually use stack overflow datas😊😂😂
It's finally happening.
SO is dying off now!
Chatgpt can be used by complete beginners but stack over flow is useful when chatgpt cant produce correct code .
Yeah but chat gpt can't do discrete math to save it's life.
I liked stack. But eventually it became a place for all knowing beings. You cant ask dumb questions. You get points reduced.
I am literally solving python problems with chatgpt now.
And this is why the internet is doomed
sure thing shregsters :)
Then create an AI based on stackoverflow answers
beluga kid
Have you heard of Google
Also doesn't consider how ChatGPT hallucinates
Also both are different things for different purposes
😂
😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
😆😆😆
lmao
Toppp
stack overflow is one of the worst website on earth, glad I don't have to deal with it anymore.
ChatGPT replaced stack overflow. ;)
There is more AI bots.
stack overflow is only good for troubleshooting and debugging. chatgpt is a million times the better learning tool and it's not even designed to be an educational tool
first
This is getting cringey...
Let Stack overflow die like a king who’s regalia have been stripped to nudity tossed out into the middle of the desert, or the middle of the tundra or the middle of the ocean
Let's get this most liked comment in Mr. P Solver history.
at least chatgpt is not condescending.
stackoverflow is worse than 4chan istg i asked a question on how to implement some stuff in my code for school and i got lectured as to why its wrong to "ask other people to do the work for you"and i didnt even receive any help after all. i did it myself a few days later but that experience alone made me never open that dogsht website again :D
ugh, this kind of people is nasty.. but just know: I read a chat where people ask questions about test tasks they do, and they're not like "solve my task instead for me please", but absolutely sane ones. and there are some ppl who say things like huh if you can't use Google maybe you shouldn't apply to an IT job, and they also shit about asking for any help at all. what I wanted to say is that the most active of them can't find a job himself for a year, and I don't wonder why actually - it is quite obvious on an interview if a person is toxic I guess
This has aleady been answered h̲e̲r̲e̲. Did you even bother using the search?
Pray that the answer isn't from 12 years ago and hasn't been deprecated yet otherwise I forsee them raining on you with hellish remarks and think they're being helpful rather than just answering a question