My #1 opener is definitely Roy Frederick. For me he was One of the Best and Finest players of fast bowling. His 169 against an Australian opening attack of Jeff Thompson and Dennis Lillie in their Prime is One of the Best and Finest displays of an opening Batsman unto this Day. This Fact and Statement is all about Sound Speech which cannot be Condemned. MVP. GOD is Great.
I have a video of that innings and the hundred Lloyd made on that tour both were phenomenal batsmen who doesn’t remember his six out of the ground at Lords in the 75 World Cup final before he stepped on his stumps. He didn’t worry about Lillee or Tommo
List is spot on! Expect I personally would put either Kahnai or Lloyd ahead of Chanderpaul and Andy Roberts ahead of Ambrose. That bowling attack like the opening partnership doesn’t need to break up imo. P.s it seems like I’ve commented on a ton of your videos all on one day but I just found your channel a week ago and I’m absolutely loving your content. Keep up the great work, not many cricket channels out there preserving and promoting the traditions of test cricket!
Hi mate. Thanks so much for the nice comment. I love test cricket and I love chatting with people from all around the world about it! Cricket has the nicest fans.
Aah, what a team! I might have made a couple of minor changes e.g. Fredericks for Haynes and maybe Lawrence Rowe for Chanderpaul ( such an elegant batsman!), but how can I argue with a team which includes the 3 most exciting batsmen I've ever seen (Lara, Richards, Greenidge) and the best bowler I've ever seen (Marshall). I know some people might argue for Weekes/Worrell/Walcott but I never saw them so can't really comment. Anyway, thanks for this interesting video
No problem at all! I enjoyed making it. Their back catalogue of players is so deep that I think their 2nd team would be competitive with all the other bests.
@@keithcampbell6806 Rowe was a great batsman, the only reason he wasn't consistent was because he had a bad allergy to grass that affected his eyes very badly
Thanks for sharing. All time best lists compiled for any sport inevitably spur debate, disagreement and sometimes disgust. I have learned the hard and sobering lesson about publically opining on any "greatest" list and have decided to defer this assignment to the athletes themselves who walked the walk are in the best position to rank their peers past and current.
Probably Haynes for George Headley he was noted as being the black Bradman he was WI first star batsman Rowe and Chanderpaul can battle depending on pitch conditions Roberts deserve mention also but it would be hard to drop any of those master bowlers
How could you have left out George Headley who finished with a test average of 60 at a time when West Indies as a test playing region was in its embryonic stage?
No problem mate, thanks for watching. Oh completely agree regarding Andy Roberts, he was the hardest to leave out. I just don't know who I could swap him for, Holding? Ultimately they've got such incredible bowling you can't go wrong.
Would love you to do a 2nd X1. Cos that would be pretty bloody special as well. Players of the ilk of Richardson. Lloyd. Gomes. Gibbs. Roberts. Hall. Walsh. Croft. The only possy I'm struggling with is openers. Kanhia. Kallicharan. Rowe. Derrick Murray. Conrad Hunte. Weekes. Worrell. Headley plenty to pick from
Ian Bishop and Patrick Patterson would be worthy selections in your second XI too. I can remember them terrorising the Australian batsmen in their 1988/'89 test tour to Australia after the likes of Holding and Garner had retired.
It would be a difficult task to arrange a team like this, with other great players around. If they were all playing at the same time wow what a team. World class. It would have been the greatest team in any sports. period
This selection comprises possibly the greatest players of the last 40 years, plus Sobers. It would be interesting to think of a 2nd XI with players pushing for a place in the first team. Clive Lloyd, George Headley, Frank Worrell, Everton Weeks, Lance Gibbs, Rohan Kanhai, Conrad Hunte, Colin Croft, Wes Hall, Deryck Murray, Andy Roberts would surely be up there.
I made one on my other channel a long time ago. A Barbados All-time XI. As well as the other Islands. Needless to say, tjat Barbados team alone was dangerous in itself😅
To be honest the batters was spot on to me but the bowling was hard to pick but in a squad those you mentioned at the end could be in it for sure. You would pick your most inform bowlers
The question is how far back You went. You mentioned the great Sir Garfield Sobers, which tells me you began from the 70s. How about Sir Lawrence Rowe of Sabina and Alvin Kallicharan. These Fellas took centuries off the fearsome Lillie and Thompson in their prime.
I remember the team of the 1980s, they were outstanding, the best in the world. How is it possible to miss out Alvin Kallicharran and Larry Gomes? Yet who would I take out to put them in?
These guys picking WI team but does not know history. Walcott was better bat than Dujon but only kept a few matches so keeper has to be Dujon or D. Murray.
its hard to disagree with your selection but I would also suggest George Headley Phenomenal record, Everton Weekes, Wes Hall, Clyde Walcott, ? Personal opinion but either way all great cricketers. Yes it would be great to see the West Indies team back again but with the way the game has gone it maybe unlikely .but who knows ....
Looks like the team was picked from 1970 onwards Cannot beleive you have missed george headley probably rated behind bradman as the next best batsmen of all time 1 of the weeks or walcott If it was to play another international team them maybe even lance Gibbs might play
i don't think we can produce those anymore--i always believed that the greatest cricketers should have passed their knowledge to the young upcoming ones but that never happened
Listening to what this guy is about the best all times players for the wi team, he does not have a clue of what he is talking about. Because in any all times greatness players for the wi team. Chris Gayle should make it over Greenidge and Haynes as a opener.He is the 3rd highest runs scorer for the wi team of all times, with 19,508 runs also the 2nd highest centuries maker behind Brian Lara, also taken 260 wickets in all 3 formats. Plus he is the only wi batsman to scored hundreds in all 3 formats, plus he has scored 2 triple hundreds puts him way ahead of the rest of batsmen away
Thanks mate. You almost can't go wrong with their strength in depth. Wes Hall was a great bowler but I just like the bounce that Big Bird could get out of any surface.
What a great WI team you have chosen and you could have selected a few more greatest WI teams😊 This team would have beaten any other. My thoughts would be Rohan Kanhai instead of Chanderpaul a straight batsman swap. But Kanhai had much more variety in his strokeplay and ability to change a match result from iffi to victory. If you have left out our greatest off spinner Lance Gibbs, Sobers would give the side the necessary variety in our bowling attack, with his ability to bowl medium fast swing as well as left arm spin. What a rahtid legacy they have left us. Has it been all for nought.🙄
Thats an insult not to have george headley in the team 22 tests in 20 years 10 hundreds average 60 33 hundreds average 70 in all first class cricket No fault of his own that war Intervened missed 7 years
All the four fast bowlers were greats - but (particularly in India) I would drop one of Garner and Ambrose (very similar and neither had terrific success in India) and bring in Gibbs. Also, how about Frank Worrell or Clive Lloyd instead of Chanderpaul? Whichever you picked should be captain instead Viv. Wow, so much talent to choose from - the all time 2nd XI would be pretty good too! Andy Roberts, Wes Hall, Rohan Kanhai, Conrad Hunte ….
You see the level of talent with performances. A second 11 would be as dengerous. Sometimes i wonder what has cause us to decline so fast. Becauce of thisthe sport is slowly dying.
Wes Hall, Lance Gibbs (first spinner to take 300 test wickets), Kanhai (the great Sunil Gavaskar named his son Rohan, saying , "To say that he is the greatest batsman I have ever seen so far is, to put it mildly.") Probably the creator is too young to know these players well and included Sobers, because, well he was Sobers! As for Headley his average was over 60, but long, long ago.
This Second team would be a world beater also. Roy Fredericks Conrad Hunt Ritchie Richardson Seymore Nurse Rohan Kanhai Clive Lloyd Derrick Murray Andy Roberts Charlie Griffith Wes Hall Courtney Walsh
Super Cat Clive Lloyd deserves not only a place in this team ahead of Chanderpaul but also to be skipper due to his accomplishments when in charge over a 10 year period. Also Andy Roberts was the Daddy of the fearsome quartet in the 70s and I think Big Bird Joel or Mikey Holding wouldn't complain too much if Andy was picked ahead of either of them despite both being great bowlers.
Yes, where is the great George Headley!. He carried the West Indies team for many with is solo outstanding batting mastery. You could not set a containing field to limit is extraordinary betting prowess.🏏
You left out George Headley and Everton Weekes - surely ahead of Chanderpaul. Also, Richards was better at taking on pace than Lara. Richards at 3 and Lara at 4.
I was surprised that Richards wasn't chosen at no. 3. The only player that I can ever remember batting at no. 3 in test matches ahead of Viv Richards was Richie Richardson. Richardson by the way was very unlucky to have been left out of this team. I cannot remember a batsman who played the hook shot and perfectly bisected the fielders in the deep better than what he did. He more than any other batsman turned the 1992/'93 test series against Australia in Australia on its head.
World XI Gordon greenidge, Barry Richards, Greame Pollock, Viv Richards, Garry Sobers, Ian Botham, Adam Gilchrist, Malcolm Marshall, Dennis Lillee, Shane Warne, Fred Truemann
Sorry, Roy Fredricks, for one of the openers. Chanderpaul does not make this team over Sir Frank Worrell, Everton Weeks, Rohan Kanhai, Kalicharan, Lance Gibbs, or Wes Hall over Garner!
Very very difficult task picking an all time greatest west indies 11. 7 players i wud definitely pick are greenidge, richards, lara, Lloyd, sobers, dujon and marshall.
I'm 66 years old and was fortunate to see all the players you mentioned in this great 11. But 50 FRENCH MEN can't be wrong so even though I never saw GEORGE Headley the stats alone in the comments justifies his selection.. Sir Viv Richards is the greatest batsman ever on Earth or Mars. I would leave out Ambrose for Walsh and Holding for Roberts . Dujon was the best wicket/ keeper batsman. Sobers was such an asset to the team because he can bowl spin, and medium pace so no need for Gibbs
Save and except Brian Lara, Chandrapaul and Sobers you have selected Lloyd's boys ( without Lloyd, Logi and Gomes) Perhaps you missed 3 Ws, Kanhai and others
Chanderpaul cannot make an all-time WI test team. Please read about George Headley who must be included in any WI as a no.3 batsman. He carried WI batting on his shoulders, thus he is referred to as Atlas.
Rohan Kanhai > Haynes, George Headley > Chanderpaul. Rest is correct. Crazy that Walsh, Andy Roberts, Lance Gibbs, Conrad Hunte, Weeks, Walcott, Worrell, Clive Llyod, Charlie Griffiths, Wes Hall cannot find a place. West Indies can form 2 world XIs and still beat any other team !!
Hall, Gibbs, Roberts, Holding, Garner, Marshall, Walsh, Croft, Ambrose….how do you squeeze all of them into 4 spots. Roberts had to have missed out by a bee’s proverbial. Damn he was an intimidating bowler! A team that can do without Roy Fredericks, Lawrence Rowe, Clive Lloyd and Richie Richardson. All of them would have been pushing for Chanderpaul’s spot. I would rate Derryck Murray a be a superior keeper to Dujohn but boy Dujohn could bat. I was stunned that his average was as low as it was when I checked. He was always a thorn in Australia’s side
I'm a kiwi, so my greatest New Zealand test team by batting order is as follows: Tom Latham Devon Conway Kane Williamson* Martin Crowe Ross Taylor Brendon McCullum+ Chris Cairns Richard Hadlee Daniel Vettori John Bracewell Shane Bond Trent Boult That's 12 but John Bracewell is the 12th man and comes in in place of Chris Cairns if two spinners are required. Unfortunates include Tim Southee, Neil Wagner, BJ Watling, Stephen Fleming, Nathan Astle, Bert Sutcliffe, Martin Donnelly, John R. Reid, John Wright, Glenn Turner, Andrew Jones, Kyle Jamieson, Tom Blundell, Daryl Mitchell, Ian Smith. It's a team that could potentially beat any test team.
Great selection but what a group to pick from. I might have been inclined to go for Roy Fredericks instead of Desmond Haynes but then I am "of a certain age" and well remember the carnage Fredericks would cause every now and then, never more than one day in Perth.... I think Chanderpaul ahead of Clive Lloyd is justifiable and the great Rohan Kanhai could have come into the equation as well. How freaky is that, three Guyanese competing for the one position? For the bowlers, I would have the peerless Andy Roberts instead of either Joel Garner or Curtly Ambrose, both of whom are peerless as well. Can argue that Ambrose and Garner are both "tall man bowlers" and you only need one in a side but which one?? No Lance Gibbs is fair enough because Sobers does the spin.
Hi Mark. Thanks for the comment and your picks. I suppose Andy Roberts was the hardest for me to leave out and I completely take your point about the similarities between Ambrose and Garner. Many thought Roberts was actually the best of the bunch. It's almost a case that you can't go wrong though, both with the Windies and Australia.
@@frankjones8442 Justifiable means that strong arguments can be made for it. Inclusion of Clive Lloyd ahead of Chanderpaul is also justifiable. Chanderpaul may possibly have batted for his personal average and possibly not but I don't think so because if he was he would have retired sooner. I reckon he was chasing Brian Lara's most runs record. He figured out a way that worked for him and he wrung out every run that was there and in doing so he put a very high price on his wicket. This made him a good supporting player. It made it possible for big team scores if the guy at the other end was going for it. One person like that in a team is good (two is OK but you wouldn't want them to be batting together). Clive Lloyd was an exceptionally capable batter (and cricketer) and good as his figures are he was a better player than his figures suggest. I don't think he quite did full justice to his immense ability. Possibly he might have been a bit reckless at times, but perhaps if he had toned down a bit then he wouldn't have been the great player that he was.
@@frankjones8442 All the points you make are good. Lloyd always a magnificent fieldsman; in his younger days in the outfield then graduating to be a really good slipper to express pace bowling. He also achieved against the odds because he had to overcome a dodgy back and having to play with glasses (a right pain).
The point about Chanderpaul not sheltering the tail is very accurate. I always made that point to my friends. Taking a single off the first ball of the over batting with number 10 or 11. Sellfish to the max.
Everton Weekes of the 4 W's can't be left out. Please look at his batting average. Teams played very few tests back then. I would put him in place of Chanderpaul. Chanderpaul will be in my 14 of course. Garfield Sobers would be my number 3 followed by Richards and Lara. Can't think beyond Gordon Greenidge and Desmond Haynes as openers. 1. Gordon Greenidge 2. Desmond Haynes 3. Gary Sobers 4. Viv Richards 5. Brian Lara 6. Everton Weekes (Or Chanderpaul) 7. Jeff Dujon 8. Malcolm Marshall 9. Michael Holding 10. Andy Roberts (or Curtly Ambrose) 11. Joel Garner (or Lance Gibbs)
Conrad hunte, rohan kanhai. The 3 Ws, Lawrence Rowe, alvin kallicharan, Wes Hall, charlie Griffith, sylvester Clarke, patrick patterson . Etc... we could easily pick two strong teams! Oh, Seymour Nurse too... headache....
Andy Roberts was tough not to include. With their depth you almost need 15! I'm doing England's all time 11 now and the gulf between WI and England is massive (and that's coming from an Englishman).
@@aviralspiral making all time best X1 for teams like West Indies, England and Australia is very difficult. Plz try to make the same for Australia as well. Thanks in advance.
Hi Anupam. I have just released the South Africa team and will 100% do one for Australia. I'm still working on my list for them, it's really tough as they have had so many good players.
@@aviralspiral My all time Australian test X1 is below. Mathew hyden Don Bradman Ricky Pointing Greg Chappel/Steve smith Stave waugh Allen border(c) Adam Gilchrist(wk) Shane warne Dannis Lillie Brett lee/Jeff Thomas Glann McGrath Honorable mentions : jastin langer, Mark waugh, M. Johnson, Nathan Leon, Michael Clark.
frank worrel as batesman and captain at any day. he united the team west indies and shown world that they will dominate in comming future by leading his bat with grace and style. can select walcott as keeper opening batesman
Andy Roberts was my hardest to leave out. But you almost can't go too far wrong. I suppose it depends a lot on the location and conditions regarding playing Gibbs.
I take it you never saw Rohan Kanhai Alvin Kallicharran Clive Lloyd or Derek Murray play all would get in before Chanderpall as would Richie Richardson My pace bowlers would be Roberts, Holding & Ambrose skipper would be Sobers who liked to entertain those who paid to watch him play he’d also be my 4th seamer & Spin bowler 😉
I don't agree putting chanderpaul in the team. Sir Clive Lloyd has to play as Captain. I would push sir Sobers up to bat at five Lloyd at six. I agree with your bowling line up because Lloyd Richards and Sobers can bowl some overs when the fast bowlers get tired.
Shivnarine Chanderpaul looks way out of his depth among this great team. How can you possibly have him batting at number 5 and overlook the great Clive Lloyd? That is staggering. I can't fault any of your other selections. I would have chosen exactly the same players in their positions.
Even if you make a second 11 (A side !) they would have beaten any side in the world. Lloyd, Kanhai, Worrell, Walcott (keeper), Weekes, Gibbs, Roberts, Walsh, Wesley Hall, Charlie Griffith . Anybody for a third team from any more left overs? Croft , Constantine, Herman Griffith and many more. I supported them more than Sri Lanka growing up. Sad to see the team today fallen to this level.
I would choose Ridley Jacob’s or Denise Ramdin over Dujon. Denish was our best keeper and he had height. Jacob’s was a better batsman and a great keeper also. Great team though.
Conrad Hunt or Roy Fredricks for Haynes would not be unreasonable. Walcott for Dujon would be be my definite change. There is a modern bias and perhaps Headley and Weeks suffered as a result. Statistically it would be hard to leave out either one.
very good selection, the fact that so many great players have not been selected is testimony to rich talent in windies
Well put together; couldn't find one to leave out!
It is a difficult task but you have done well. This West Indies team of 80s is greatest team ever in the history of the game. I have seen them a lot.
Rohan kanhai one of the most exciting batsman of his, my favorite
My #1 opener is definitely Roy Frederick. For me he was One of the Best and Finest players of fast bowling. His 169 against an Australian opening attack of Jeff Thompson and Dennis Lillie in their Prime is One of the Best and Finest displays of an opening Batsman unto this Day. This Fact and Statement is all about Sound Speech which cannot be Condemned. MVP. GOD is Great.
Sorry, Roy Fredericks, Jeff Thomson and Dennis Lillee.
Seymour Nurse was is another opening batsman from the West Indias..and Basil Butcher…
I have a video of that innings and the hundred Lloyd made on that tour both were phenomenal batsmen who doesn’t remember his six out of the ground at Lords in the 75 World Cup final before he stepped on his stumps. He didn’t worry about Lillee or Tommo
100% in agreement
List is spot on! Expect I personally would put either Kahnai or Lloyd ahead of Chanderpaul and Andy Roberts ahead of Ambrose. That bowling attack like the opening partnership doesn’t need to break up imo. P.s it seems like I’ve commented on a ton of your videos all on one day but I just found your channel a week ago and I’m absolutely loving your content. Keep up the great work, not many cricket channels out there preserving and promoting the traditions of test cricket!
Hi mate. Thanks so much for the nice comment. I love test cricket and I love chatting with people from all around the world about it! Cricket has the nicest fans.
I don't agree with you , chanderpaul and ambrose deserve to be on this list so stop it with the generational bias
@@trinigoose9775 it’s my opinion, so it will always have biases in it
If it is test match,Shiv earn his place on that team.Check the man stats.
Shiv and Ambrose all the way. Infact Ambrose and Marshal will be sure selection on the world's best test team too
Aah, what a team! I might have made a couple of minor changes e.g. Fredericks for Haynes and maybe Lawrence Rowe for Chanderpaul ( such an elegant batsman!), but how can I argue with a team which includes the 3 most exciting batsmen I've ever seen (Lara, Richards, Greenidge) and the best bowler I've ever seen (Marshall).
I know some people might argue for Weekes/Worrell/Walcott but I never saw them so can't really comment.
Anyway, thanks for this interesting video
No problem at all! I enjoyed making it. Their back catalogue of players is so deep that I think their 2nd team would be competitive with all the other bests.
Rowe was aflash in the pan.
You know nothing of cricket
@@keithcampbell6806 Rowe was a great batsman, the only reason he wasn't consistent was because he had a bad allergy to grass that affected his eyes very badly
Lance Gibbs is a must gardener out Lance in
Thanks for sharing. All time best lists compiled for any sport inevitably spur debate, disagreement and sometimes disgust. I have learned the hard and sobering lesson about publically opining on any "greatest" list and have decided to defer this assignment to the athletes themselves who walked the walk are in the best position to rank their peers past and current.
Thanks for the comment, yes I too have learnt that it's tricky. It's just a bit of fun really though and I've got thick skin 😆.
Very genuine effort to compile this team.
I am sure you must have found it difficult to leave out Rohan Kanhai, Clive Lyod and Alwyn Kalicharan.
The late great Roy Clifton Fredricks is a must. No question about it!
Probably Haynes for George Headley he was noted as being the black Bradman he was WI first star batsman Rowe and Chanderpaul can battle depending on pitch conditions Roberts deserve mention also but it would be hard to drop any of those master bowlers
I completely agree with this list!! This would be an awesome line up.
Profound selection, on point
How could you have left out George Headley who finished with a test average of 60 at a time when West Indies as a test playing region was in its embryonic stage?
George Headley was New Zealander, not West Indian.
@@2244khan ?
@@2244khan WI also had a George Headley
Chanderpaul? None of the 3 Ws? Lol. No idea of WI cricket history
Yes Chanderpaul. His record is testament of his greatness
Thanks for taking the time to publish your views on the best 11 WI team.
Andy Robert's was equally good and lethal.....
No problem mate, thanks for watching.
Oh completely agree regarding Andy Roberts, he was the hardest to leave out.
I just don't know who I could swap him for, Holding?
Ultimately they've got such incredible bowling you can't go wrong.
@A Viral Spiral thanks for responding
Yes, difficult choice considering best of the best accomodsted under 11 :)
Where do you rank the following players, Lance Gibbs, Wes Hall, Conrad Hunt, Everton Weeks, and Rohan Kanhai
Would love you to do a 2nd X1. Cos that would be pretty bloody special as well. Players of the ilk of Richardson. Lloyd. Gomes. Gibbs. Roberts. Hall. Walsh. Croft. The only possy I'm struggling with is openers. Kanhia. Kallicharan. Rowe. Derrick Murray. Conrad Hunte. Weekes. Worrell. Headley plenty to pick from
Big time. Both the Australian and West Indian sides were so deep.
I may try to do both. 👍
Silly boy 🤣🤣🤣
Ian Bishop and Patrick Patterson would be worthy selections in your second XI too. I can remember them terrorising the Australian batsmen in their 1988/'89 test tour to Australia after the likes of Holding and Garner had retired.
It would be a difficult task to arrange a team like this, with other great players around. If they were all playing at the same time wow what a team. World class. It would have been the greatest team in any sports. period
Surprised u left out Rohan Kanhai & Alwin Kallicharan
This selection comprises possibly the greatest players of the last 40 years, plus Sobers. It would be interesting to think of a 2nd XI with players pushing for a place in the first team.
Clive Lloyd, George Headley, Frank Worrell, Everton Weeks, Lance Gibbs, Rohan Kanhai, Conrad Hunte, Colin Croft, Wes Hall, Deryck Murray, Andy Roberts would surely be up there.
I once looked at a Barbados all-time 11. That itself - never mind all of West Indies - was a pretty awesome team.
Hunte/Haynes, Greenidge, Weekes, Walcott, Worrell, Sobers, Marshall, Hall, Griffifth, Garner. The island's population is only 250,000.
@@yacsem yes. Mind blowing.
I made one on my other channel a long time ago. A Barbados All-time XI. As well as the other Islands. Needless to say, tjat Barbados team alone was dangerous in itself😅
Very good selections. I agree.
Thanks mate 👍
To be honest the batters was spot on to me but the bowling was hard to pick but in a squad those you mentioned at the end could be in it for sure. You would pick your most inform bowlers
Yes agree mate, it would depend on current form and also the location of the Test match.
@@aviralspiral Exactly 💯
The question is how far back
You went. You mentioned the great Sir Garfield Sobers, which tells me you began from the 70s. How about Sir Lawrence Rowe of Sabina and Alvin Kallicharan. These Fellas took centuries off the fearsome Lillie and Thompson in their prime.
Weekes,(Hunte), Walcott (wkt.), Lara, Kanhai, Richards (capt.) , Headley, Sobers, Hall, Roberts, Garner(Holding), Gibbs.
What a team this would've been
I remember the team of the 1980s, they were outstanding, the best in the world. How is it possible to miss out Alvin Kallicharran and Larry Gomes? Yet who would I take out to put them in?
I would leave chanderpaul and put in sir everton weeks
1 Richards 2 Lara 3 Headley 4 Weeks 5 Sobers 6 Walcott (wc) 7 Marshall 8 Holding 9 Ambrose 10 Garner 11 Walsh. 12th Gibbs.
These guys picking WI team but does not know history.
Walcott was better bat than Dujon but only kept a few matches so keeper has to be Dujon or D. Murray.
My eleven:
Grinedge, Headley, Lara, Viv Richards, Weeks, Sobers, Dujon, Marshall, Ambrose, Holding, Garner. 12th Gibbs.
its hard to disagree with your selection but I would also suggest George Headley Phenomenal record, Everton Weekes, Wes Hall, Clyde Walcott, ? Personal opinion but either way all great cricketers. Yes it would be great to see the West Indies team back again but with the way the game has gone it maybe unlikely .but who knows ....
Looks like the team was picked from 1970 onwards
Cannot beleive you have missed george headley probably rated behind bradman as the next best batsmen of all time
1 of the weeks or walcott
If it was to play another international team them maybe even lance Gibbs might play
Your data regarding 5w hauls and 10 w in a match of Joel Garner is wrong. Plz correct it.
Let’s hope they can bring back the Glory Days again not only for West Indies but for the fascination it’ll bring for Cricket around the Globe
Completely agree. I'm thinking about doing a video about why they fell so hard from the top.
Would love to see them back to their best.
i don't think we can produce those anymore--i always believed that the greatest cricketers should have passed their knowledge to the young upcoming ones but that never happened
George Headley for Lara and Everton weeks in place of Chanderpaul
Listening to what this guy is about the best all times players for the wi team, he does not have a clue of what he is talking about. Because in any all times greatness players for the wi team. Chris Gayle should make it over Greenidge and Haynes as a opener.He is the 3rd highest runs scorer for the wi team of all times, with 19,508 runs also the 2nd highest centuries maker behind Brian Lara, also taken 260 wickets in all 3 formats. Plus he is the only wi batsman to scored hundreds in all 3 formats, plus he has scored 2 triple hundreds puts him way ahead of the rest of batsmen away
Good selection 👍
But, i would pick Sir Everton Weekes, in place of Haynes
And, Sir Wes Hall, in place of Joel Garner
Thanks mate. You almost can't go wrong with their strength in depth. Wes Hall was a great bowler but I just like the bounce that Big Bird could get out of any surface.
What a great WI team you have chosen and you could have selected a few more greatest WI teams😊 This team would have beaten any other. My thoughts would be Rohan Kanhai instead of Chanderpaul a straight batsman swap. But Kanhai had much more variety in his strokeplay and ability to change a match result from iffi to victory. If you have left out our greatest off spinner Lance Gibbs, Sobers would give the side the necessary variety in our bowling attack, with his ability to bowl medium fast swing as well as left arm spin. What a rahtid legacy they have left us. Has it been all for nought.🙄
Rohan Kanhai have class and style he’s one of the best middle order batsman and very pretty at the crease…
Wonderful 🎉 dream team ever
Thats an insult not to have george headley in the team
22 tests in 20 years
10 hundreds average 60
33 hundreds average 70 in all first class cricket
No fault of his own that war
Intervened missed 7 years
All the four fast bowlers were greats - but (particularly in India) I would drop one of Garner and Ambrose (very similar and neither had terrific success in India) and bring in Gibbs. Also, how about Frank Worrell or Clive Lloyd instead of Chanderpaul? Whichever you picked should be captain instead Viv. Wow, so much talent to choose from - the all time 2nd XI would be pretty good too! Andy Roberts, Wes Hall, Rohan Kanhai, Conrad Hunte ….
You see the level of talent with performances. A second 11 would be as dengerous. Sometimes i wonder what has cause us to decline so fast. Becauce of thisthe sport is slowly dying.
Wes Hall, Lance Gibbs (first spinner to take 300 test wickets), Kanhai (the great Sunil Gavaskar named his son Rohan, saying , "To say that he is the greatest batsman I have ever seen so far is, to put it mildly.") Probably the creator is too young to know these players well and included Sobers, because, well he was Sobers! As for Headley his average was over 60, but long, long ago.
This Second team would be a world beater also.
Roy Fredericks
Conrad Hunt
Ritchie Richardson
Seymore Nurse
Rohan Kanhai
Clive Lloyd
Derrick Murray
Andy Roberts
Charlie Griffith
Wes Hall
Courtney Walsh
Super Cat Clive Lloyd deserves not only a place in this team ahead of Chanderpaul but also to be skipper due to his accomplishments when in charge over a 10 year period. Also Andy Roberts was the Daddy of the fearsome quartet in the 70s and I think Big Bird Joel or Mikey Holding wouldn't complain too much if Andy was picked ahead of either of them despite both being great bowlers.
Yes, where is the great George Headley!. He carried the West Indies team for many with is solo outstanding batting mastery. You could not set a containing field to limit is extraordinary betting prowess.🏏
You left out George Headley and Everton Weekes - surely ahead of Chanderpaul. Also, Richards was better at taking on pace than Lara. Richards at 3 and Lara at 4.
I was surprised that Richards wasn't chosen at no. 3. The only player that I can ever remember batting at no. 3 in test matches ahead of Viv Richards was Richie Richardson. Richardson by the way was very unlucky to have been left out of this team. I cannot remember a batsman who played the hook shot and perfectly bisected the fielders in the deep better than what he did. He more than any other batsman turned the 1992/'93 test series against Australia in Australia on its head.
My top six in order...Haynes, Greenidge, George Headley, Brian Lara, Viv Richard's and Garfield Sobers
Maybe Hunte ahead of Haynes, otherwise spot on
World XI Gordon greenidge, Barry Richards, Greame Pollock, Viv Richards, Garry Sobers, Ian Botham, Adam Gilchrist, Malcolm Marshall, Dennis Lillee, Shane Warne, Fred Truemann
Sorry, Roy Fredricks, for one of the openers. Chanderpaul does not make this team over Sir Frank Worrell, Everton Weeks, Rohan Kanhai, Kalicharan, Lance Gibbs, or Wes Hall over Garner!
Very very difficult task picking an all time greatest west indies 11. 7 players i wud definitely pick are greenidge, richards, lara, Lloyd, sobers, dujon and marshall.
Cannot have an ALL TIME WI team without George Headley.
He knows absolutely nothing about West Indies cricket
😢 what about the 3 w"s
Atlas Headley!
Well clearly you can he just picked it 😂
What happened about Black Bradman George Hadley and 3Ws?
for who
I don't see Rohan Kanhais name, no West Indies team is complete without him...he would come after Viv Richards in the batting line-up.
I love to play the game of cricket, however, no cricket in my mathematics chemistry physic and biology classes. Prof Dr Dolphy Gilpin.
I'm 66 years old and was fortunate to see all the players you mentioned in this great 11. But 50 FRENCH MEN can't be wrong so even though I never saw GEORGE Headley the stats alone in the comments justifies his selection.. Sir Viv Richards is the greatest batsman ever on Earth or Mars. I would leave out Ambrose for Walsh and Holding for Roberts . Dujon was the best wicket/ keeper batsman. Sobers was such an asset to the team because he can bowl spin, and medium pace so no need for Gibbs
I used to love watching the Windies play in the 80’s. It’s a shame to see where they are in world cricket now.
Cannot argue.
Save and except Brian Lara, Chandrapaul and Sobers you have selected Lloyd's boys ( without Lloyd, Logi and Gomes)
Perhaps you missed 3 Ws, Kanhai and others
Good list
Perfect perfect can't be more accurate then this
Chanderpaul cannot make an all-time WI test team. Please read about George Headley who must be included in any WI as a no.3 batsman. He carried WI batting on his shoulders, thus he is referred to as Atlas.
I would have chosen Clyde Walcott instead of Dujon. You have to have at least one of the three Ws in the list
Your selection of the team is incontrovertible. It is simply impossible to replace anyone and I agree 100% about your comments on Lance Gibbs😊.
George Headley!
Thanks mate 👍
Rohan Kanhai > Haynes, George Headley > Chanderpaul. Rest is correct. Crazy that Walsh, Andy Roberts, Lance Gibbs, Conrad Hunte, Weeks, Walcott, Worrell, Clive Llyod, Charlie Griffiths, Wes Hall cannot find a place. West Indies can form 2 world XIs and still beat any other team !!
Hall, Gibbs, Roberts, Holding, Garner, Marshall, Walsh, Croft, Ambrose….how do you squeeze all of them into 4 spots. Roberts had to have missed out by a bee’s proverbial. Damn he was an intimidating bowler! A team that can do without Roy Fredericks, Lawrence Rowe, Clive Lloyd and Richie Richardson. All of them would have been pushing for Chanderpaul’s spot. I would rate Derryck Murray a be a superior keeper to Dujohn but boy Dujohn could bat. I was stunned that his average was as low as it was when I checked. He was always a thorn in Australia’s side
Headley
Greenidge
Lara
Richards
Weekes
Sobers
Dujon
Marshall
Holding
Ambrose
Garner
Why Clive Lloyd is not included
I'm a kiwi, so my greatest New Zealand test team by batting order is as follows:
Tom Latham
Devon Conway
Kane Williamson*
Martin Crowe
Ross Taylor
Brendon McCullum+
Chris Cairns
Richard Hadlee
Daniel Vettori
John Bracewell
Shane Bond
Trent Boult
That's 12 but John Bracewell is the 12th man and comes in in place of Chris Cairns if two spinners are required. Unfortunates include Tim Southee, Neil Wagner, BJ Watling, Stephen Fleming, Nathan Astle, Bert Sutcliffe, Martin Donnelly, John R. Reid, John Wright, Glenn Turner, Andrew Jones, Kyle Jamieson, Tom Blundell, Daryl Mitchell, Ian Smith. It's a team that could potentially beat any test team.
Great selection but what a group to pick from. I might have been inclined to go for Roy Fredericks instead of Desmond Haynes but then I am "of a certain age" and well remember the carnage Fredericks would cause every now and then, never more than one day in Perth.... I think Chanderpaul ahead of Clive Lloyd is justifiable and the great Rohan Kanhai could have come into the equation as well. How freaky is that, three Guyanese competing for the one position? For the bowlers, I would have the peerless Andy Roberts instead of either Joel Garner or Curtly Ambrose, both of whom are peerless as well. Can argue that Ambrose and Garner are both "tall man bowlers" and you only need one in a side but which one?? No Lance Gibbs is fair enough because Sobers does the spin.
Hi Mark. Thanks for the comment and your picks.
I suppose Andy Roberts was the hardest for me to leave out and I completely take your point about the similarities between Ambrose and Garner.
Many thought Roberts was actually the best of the bunch.
It's almost a case that you can't go wrong though, both with the Windies and Australia.
@@frankjones8442 Justifiable means that strong arguments can be made for it. Inclusion of Clive Lloyd ahead of Chanderpaul is also justifiable. Chanderpaul may possibly have batted for his personal average and possibly not but I don't think so because if he was he would have retired sooner. I reckon he was chasing Brian Lara's most runs record. He figured out a way that worked for him and he wrung out every run that was there and in doing so he put a very high price on his wicket. This made him a good supporting player. It made it possible for big team scores if the guy at the other end was going for it. One person like that in a team is good (two is OK but you wouldn't want them to be batting together). Clive Lloyd was an exceptionally capable batter (and cricketer) and good as his figures are he was a better player than his figures suggest. I don't think he quite did full justice to his immense ability. Possibly he might have been a bit reckless at times, but perhaps if he had toned down a bit then he wouldn't have been the great player that he was.
@@frankjones8442 All the points you make are good. Lloyd always a magnificent fieldsman; in his younger days in the outfield then graduating to be a really good slipper to express pace bowling. He also achieved against the odds because he had to overcome a dodgy back and having to play with glasses (a right pain).
The point about Chanderpaul not sheltering the tail is very accurate. I always made that point to my friends. Taking a single off the first ball of the over batting with number 10 or 11. Sellfish to the max.
I think for balanced attack Lance Gibbs should be in XI specially on Indian pitches
I know mate, that's been a popular choice. I just couldn't leave out any of the 4 quicks!
Don't need Gibbs .
Check Marshall record in india
What did surprise me in your selections was the absence of George Headly aka "The Black Bradman"
Conrad Hunte for Haynes. George Headley for Chanderpaul. Dereck Murray for Dujon. Lance Gibbs for Garner. Best team ever easily
It takes a brave person to leave out Conrad Hunte I hope that isn't the batting order
Colin Croft? For Garner?
With LLOYD, Roberts,Kallicharan,, Walcott,Walch as reserves and Derrick Murray as the backup wicket keeper.
According to stats our best number three is George Headley most experts have him in the lineup. I concur he must be in the team.
what happened to king George Hedley
Good selection.. i vill select courtny Walah for Joel Garner... but still good selection
A lot of people are swapping out Garner. To me though, with the bounce he got from even docile pitches he plays.
Walsh very good don't get me wrong.
It wouldbegood if theteam is divided in three eras or periods
What a team they are the champions of champions
Everton Weekes of the 4 W's can't be left out. Please look at his batting average. Teams played very few tests back then. I would put him in place of Chanderpaul. Chanderpaul will be in my 14 of course. Garfield Sobers would be my number 3 followed by Richards and Lara. Can't think beyond Gordon Greenidge and Desmond Haynes as openers.
1. Gordon Greenidge
2. Desmond Haynes
3. Gary Sobers
4. Viv Richards
5. Brian Lara
6. Everton Weekes (Or Chanderpaul)
7. Jeff Dujon
8. Malcolm Marshall
9. Michael Holding
10. Andy Roberts (or Curtly Ambrose)
11. Joel Garner (or Lance Gibbs)
90% the same to be fair, both incredible teams.
No Lance Gibbs pure fire
no andy Robert really
Conrad hunte, rohan kanhai. The 3 Ws, Lawrence Rowe, alvin kallicharan, Wes Hall, charlie Griffith, sylvester Clarke, patrick patterson . Etc... we could easily pick two strong teams! Oh, Seymour Nurse too... headache....
No George Headley?
Where is Everton Weekes?
Think I'd put Andy Roberts ahead of Garner.
What a team..indeed its difficult to fit such greats into the playing eleven. My honourable mentions are Carl hooper, Andy Roberts, Sunil narain.
Andy Roberts was tough not to include. With their depth you almost need 15!
I'm doing England's all time 11 now and the gulf between WI and England is massive (and that's coming from an Englishman).
@@aviralspiral making all time best X1 for teams like West Indies, England and Australia is very difficult. Plz try to make the same for Australia as well. Thanks in advance.
Hi Anupam. I have just released the South Africa team and will 100% do one for Australia. I'm still working on my list for them, it's really tough as they have had so many good players.
@@aviralspiral
My all time Australian test X1 is below.
Mathew hyden
Don Bradman
Ricky Pointing
Greg Chappel/Steve smith
Stave waugh
Allen border(c)
Adam Gilchrist(wk)
Shane warne
Dannis Lillie
Brett lee/Jeff Thomas
Glann McGrath
Honorable mentions : jastin langer, Mark waugh, M. Johnson, Nathan Leon, Michael Clark.
@@anupamraja Did you forget Steve Smith?
Hunte, Greenidge, Richards, Lara, sobers, Dujon, marshall, Holding, Ambrose, Garner, Gibbs.
frank worrel as batesman and captain at any day. he united the team west indies and shown world that they will dominate in comming future by leading his bat with grace and style. can select walcott as keeper opening batesman
No place for Richie Richardson?
No room for George Headley?
Possibly Headley for Chiv but not going to argue with your team.
I felt like I had to have Chanderpaul as he was in my underrated cricketers list!
Not a easy assignment I agree. Weekes for Chanderpaul, Roberts for Garner, Walcott for Dujon and Lance Gibbs for Ambrose.
Andy Roberts was my hardest to leave out. But you almost can't go too far wrong.
I suppose it depends a lot on the location and conditions regarding playing Gibbs.
Looks like you stop watching cricket in 1980
I take it you never saw Rohan Kanhai Alvin Kallicharran Clive Lloyd or Derek Murray play all would get in before Chanderpall as would Richie Richardson My pace bowlers would be Roberts, Holding & Ambrose skipper would be Sobers who liked to entertain those who paid to watch him play he’d also be my 4th seamer & Spin bowler 😉
I don't agree putting chanderpaul in the team. Sir Clive Lloyd has to play as Captain. I would push sir Sobers up to bat at five Lloyd at six. I agree with your bowling line up because Lloyd Richards and Sobers can bowl some overs when the fast bowlers get tired.
Shivnarine Chanderpaul looks way out of his depth among this great team. How can you possibly have him batting at number 5 and overlook the great Clive Lloyd? That is staggering. I can't fault any of your other selections. I would have chosen exactly the same players in their positions.
Even if you make a second 11 (A side !) they would have beaten any side in the world. Lloyd, Kanhai, Worrell, Walcott (keeper), Weekes, Gibbs, Roberts, Walsh, Wesley Hall, Charlie Griffith . Anybody for a third team from any more left overs? Croft , Constantine, Herman Griffith and many more. I supported them more than Sri Lanka growing up. Sad to see the team today fallen to this level.
TO FACE THIS FORMIDABLE BOWLING ATTACK THE OPPOSITE TEAM SHOULD OPEN WITH NON OTHER THAN SUNIL GAVASKAR AND VIRENDRA SEHWAG AT THE TOP.
After those 2 innings against Holding at Sabina Park?? He would be scared. Great batsman nonetheless.
I would choose Ridley Jacob’s or Denise Ramdin over Dujon. Denish was our best keeper and he had height. Jacob’s was a better batsman and a great keeper also. Great team though.
It would be great if you could make a video of Pakistan’s best eleven for tests and ODIs.
I've done the test version mate, it's on my channel. I'll do the ODI one soon.
Agreed you have to look at the era of play bc if you say it is the greatest all time then you have consider the 3 W’s and even Rohan khania.
I would rather see Sir Clyde Walcott in place of Dujon as wicketkeeper.
Heard of the three W's kid?
Conrad Hunt or Roy Fredricks for Haynes would not be unreasonable. Walcott for Dujon would be be my definite change. There is a modern bias and perhaps Headley and Weeks suffered as a result. Statistically it would be hard to leave out either one.