I feel like the girl in the jumper is some of F1 twitter personified at the beginning 😅 absolutely aghast that other people think differently or have a different opinion lol.
Thought the same, if someone thinks differently she just shouts louder instead of listening to other points to get a more rounded view of what people apart from her think
Hahahahahaha I know I got the exact same thought. I would argue for Hamilton up until this season, but he himself has shown and said that when you have a faster car you are faster. He said that he cannot do anything with someone in a faster car so he admitted that no one could do anything with him
@@Traxxmaciek they literally said there are way too many variables over generations to have one Goat. Your anti-Hamilton attitude associates anything not favouring the other person to be 'British bias'. And get this, Lewis is black. He has gotten far more abuse and hate throughout his career than bias.
The young lady in the white trainers definitely has a lot of insight into the sport. Agreed with pretty much all of her positions to the questions asked. She's the only one who actually thought about what stance to take for each question
@@cheapestf1598 "before you burn me alive", come on, serious? Why would be angry about an opinion? 😂 I definitely see your point of view. But people will always rate him given what he's done for the sport, it's more out of respect. I understand drivers and just people change over time, wouldn't say he's a title contender for a good number of years now
@@cheapestf1598 I dont think he's overrated, and I think his form from before "the turning point" (Germany 2018, as a devout Seb fan since 2008 he's NEVER been the same since) is still lingering around somewhere, for example Monaco this year. I wont say Baku or Hungary because those were both helped out by front-runner setbacks or retirements, but I will say Monaco because every person that should've been in front of my Super Seb, he beat on merit that day. P5 without many retirements in the 7th fastest car is no joke, especially considering that the AM is essentially the reverse of the Alpine, meaning no qualy pace, all race pace. Lately he's been able to keep up with faster cars like we just saw today catching Norris at the end of the race for P10. IN SHORT: Seb's still got it. He's not all the way there yet, but people think that he's nowhere still because we think the AMR21 is faster than we should be giving it credit for, when I think it's in between the Alpine/Team Gasly and the Williams almost exactly, and both drivers, Seb and Lance, are both performing well/ok.
Vettel never had the same kind of support in Ferrari as other drivers like Schumacher had. He was mentally exhausted. Add to that the constant fuckups from Ferrari in race strategy in 2017/18. You can't compare seb and Lewis and say one guy is overrated. I'd like to see Hamilton in a Ferrari trying to win a championship first before making that comparison. Greatest drivers in formula 1 history have a failed at Ferrari. It's a completely different kind of atmosphere and pressure.
Yep. Both Alonso and Prost both couldn't win either, and Ferrari only gave them one title competing car between the two of them in a total of seven years (Prost 1990).
Yeah, Mercedes was definitely the path of least resistance mind-wise. Merc offered Vettel a contract for 2017 I believe to replace Rosberg, if only what could've been. (If I'm wrong, which I very well could be, please tell me nicely!)
@@averagesundaydriver8122 I am not sure either but I cannot really imagine it. Toto Wolff sad he never would have put Nico and Lewis alongside if he was in charge at that time so I cannot think of him offering Seb a seat next to Lewis. But as I sad I do not have a definite answer.
@@elevenpro7989 I see your point, but maybe it could be a temptation he could fall into having the two most successful drivers on the grid all to yourself on a dominant team to just duke it out, while Red Bull have Verstappen & Ricciardo but their car is 1, not as fast as yours, and 2, super unreliable. Edit: And Ferrari in 2017 would be useless, even with the best car, considering Kimi wasn’t in good form and god only knows who they’d get for a second driver.
He had not the support.. They gave him the keys of the team by having useless Kimi next to him and giving him 2017 and 2018 cars which were good enough to at least have seasons finale..
Kimi, seb, fernando and even George have all proved that the car matters a lot, A “bad” driver in a good car will definitely outscore a a good driver in a haas
@@rickjames1797 Yeah not a lot of people really catch onto the fact that Lance & Seb are making that AMR21 look a lot faster than we should be giving it credit for.
Schumacher litteraly won 2 title in the forth best car, beating Prost and all the other driver and then procede to win the title in 2000 if the McLaren was still better. A great driver in a bad car will still show his skill and yea if you put Hamilton in a 2021 haas i don't think he can win the title but still perform much better than mazepin
Schumi built the team from ground up, not just Ferrari but also the Mercedes we see today, didn't have the best car handed to him. So for me he is goat. And it doesn't matter how you perform now or did then, when you are a 4 time wdc and a legend of the sport, you can never be overrated. Yes, Vettel is not the goat, but he is in the top 10 of all time.
Schumi developed the car and helped team culture more so with Ferrari, what he did with mercedes was obviously not as significant as many ppl left after he retired for the final time and smth ppl seem to forget is that 2 years after he left the regs changed so much that he pretty much never developed that setup.
Vettel is not the GOAT, (nobody really is, again hard to compare eras i.e (Hamilton v. Senna v. Fangio) but of those specific regulation set ('09-13) it is arguable he was the best of that era.
@@averagesundaydriver8122 yes the key point is that some drivers can be beast in some regulations and in others they might be not. So are they still GOAT ??
About the Vettel question though the guy who disagreed mentioned his performance decline in the last two years being the reason but the same thing happened with schumi in mercedes where he was beaten by his teammate and had some horrific crashes which also ruined others races, so by that logic can you call Michael Schumacher overrated similarly you cannot call a 4 time wdc overrated, definitely his performance has dropped off but overrated nah
I kinda get it but also disagree. Vettel is underapppreciated all time cuz of his 4 wdcs so he deserves love there. But it’s the fact that’s ppl r comparing him to the top drivers in f1 currently and he’s just not at the Same level
Vettel won 2 of his 4 championships in dominant cars with a poor team mate (sorry Mark). Whereas someone like Alonso had to fight tooth and nail in an absolute dog of a car to take the fight down to the wire.
@@LuminalSpoon Yeh that is completely true and I would say CURRENTLY vettel is overrated. And also all time, Alonso has been better just has made bad career choices and like you said never had a dominant car
@@LuminalSpoon no one is comparing Vettel to Alonso I am just saying Vettel is not overrated. And Alonso was slightly lucky with 2005 season because he had only kimi as a title rival in that season and that mclaren was very unreliable so going by your logic Alonso only had a title fight in 2006, and that Ferrari was only bad for the first part of the 2012 season because if you see the qualifying results of those you can clearly see the improvements Ferrari made to that car throughout the season and it eventually became a very decent car by the mid season break, and again I agree Alonso is overall a better driver than Vettel but i am just saying Vettel is not overrated.
This video since ha a lot of British and modern bias imho. If you take young British fans is obvious that statistically, they would support Lewis,Lando and George. I think that the discussion would have been more interesting if there was a more diverse debate by having older and foreign people.
The problem with the British media bias problem is that they're broadcasted in almost all the world. If you watch Italian coverage is clear bias towards Ferrari but this is not a problem since it is broadcasted only here(I'm Italian)
Here in Norway we have our own Norwegian commentators, and I absolutely hate it. They aren't exiting at all and just boring. Didn't have much to do with your comment, but I just had to get the rant out there haha
that british bias question… being from a place that is not england, i felt that everyone was holding on slightly to their british bias still… everyone didnt make much of an argument rather than the blonde girl.
There isn’t a woman good enough (yet) to race in F1, period. There is nothing political about it. Teams would KILL to have a female driver that is somewhat decent. The commercial possibilities of a woman driver are phenomenal. But she needs to be at least as good as, say Latifi, or better.
It’s sad really but true. I think there will be a female driver in 10 years but we need one good enough as when you get down to it talent is all that matters.
I just feel that for women to be even looked at to be considered into the formula ranks, the cars in the W series need to be upgraded to a certain standard where it can be similar on the levels of formula 4, formula 3 or formula 2. Right now it just seems that the specs they have in the W series are purposely built to be slower than any of these other cars. I would also like to include that with Formula 1 creating a W series it makes this a bit more difficult rather than having women already competing in the same ranks as F4, F3 and F2
about the vettel is overrated question... at any point of the domination in f1 history, no one had the talent to put his car on the top step of the podium for 9 times in a row. clearly he is not overrated.
While i agree that Vettel is not overrated, I completely disagree with the reason stated. simply because all the greats of the past rarely had a car that could COMPLETE 9 straight races. To say they did not have the talent is complete BS. Reliability was the limiting factor, not talent.
Though I agree, you can’t really determine a true GOAT solely based on racing performance as all the eras of Formula 1 have been so vastly different, I’d still say Michael would make the strongest case for himself. Why is that? He basically build up not 1, not 2, but 3 teams up to be world championship winners. He drove for Benetton and made them world champions. He left them at the height of their performance to go to Ferrari to pull them out of one of their biggest slums and ring in one of the most dominant eras of Formula 1. And sure, after he came back with Mercedes he didn’t bring in the same performances as before, but he laid the ground work to make it the team with pretty much the most dominant era of all time.
I think we look at the goat the completely wrong way. It should be worked out by number of wins to number of races run, hammy is like 5th or 6th in that case
I agree with the Benetton and Ferrari, but not the Merc, he kinda helped with team culture but a lot of the staff changed after he left anf even Ross Brawn left, also I think crediting Michael solely for Benett9n and Ferrari is a bit unfair to Byrne, Brawn and Todt, they were a super team for non driver personnel in F1
@@psalmco2425 Oh I absolutely agree, the people around him in the teams were critically important as well. But for a driver Michael was so incredibly involved in every process considered to most other drivers. In regards to Merc, that's why I said: "laid the groundwork". Even though there were a lot of changes in the team after he left, the team wouldn't have been able to do so and perform at this level without the work put in by Michael and those who worked there before.
@@snfcbmf12799 he only agreed to move to ferrari if Brawn and Byrne did so as well, hes loyal to his people as well, he only went to mercedes as he stated cuz Ross was there as well so it goes both ways.
A woman will make it in the next 10 years but not because she deserves it a team will put her in for sponsors and PR but it will be a bad look and will make people not want to see any women in the sport.
@@HT-lr1rs I disagree that there *should* be women in F1. The best drivers should be in F1, regardless of gender. If there happen to be women in F1 on merit, I don't care. I don't care if the grid is all women, all men, or any mix of both.
I give it a less than 5% chance that a female driver gets a full-time F1 seat in the next 10 years. The talent among current single-seater drivers is not there. But I will optimistically say that a female driver will probably get a full-time F1 seat in the next 25 years. As Steph says, it's all about getting more girls karting from a young age to increase the chances of someone with the potential to make it to F1 actually developing enough, fulfilling that potential and making it.
I think you are right in spirit... But I think we will see a woman in Formula 1 within 10 years purely on politics. Some team will be more than happy to take the first almost acceptable (but not really acceptable) candidate and thrust her into the spotlight, even if she is not ready, just to be the first team to have that driver and garner the attention that comes with it. By the end of the decade I'm betting we see it.
Yea but one thing that needs to stop being ignored for purely political reasons, the very core reason for why there aren’t many women in formula 1, is the fundamental fact that men and women are different. And among our differences are differences in interests and ambitions. There just aren’t nearly as many women who WANT to be Motorsport drivers, and so with so little of them there it’s very easy for them to get filtered out. There isn’t really decent chance for a woman to be the one topping the times because if the sheer lack of them in the pool. And this isn’t a totally bad thing. The reason it’s seen as a bad thing is because whenever we see a male dominated space we immediately jump to the idea of discrimination and while there is undoubtedly an existence of that in some areas, the interests are the Main driving forces behind the number of women compared to men. The same can be said for female dominated areas. So while you can say that more effort can be made to get girls interested and karting, at what point do you draw the line, and are not just trying to pull more girls in just because you want the number of girls to go up and not because these girls actually want to do this. With all that said I still see a woman in f1 within the next 10 years but probably not for the right reasons. Edit: when I say it’s not a bad thing what I actually meant to say was that it’s not the result of bad intentions. My bad
Personally, I believe the British Media Had Always been Biased. Has Been For Years, Watch the end of the 2013 Indian Gp and listen k the way they celebrated a historic moment, then listen to how they sound when Hamilton wins one race
True but that ends up being all media. French media towards French drivers, Italian towards Italian, Spanish towards Spanish, and especially Dutch towards Dutch. The British generally are the most highlighted though as them being English means that they reach more people
@@metrofilmer8894 yeah I understand that. I just think that they don't throw a tantrum when their driver doesn't win. Sky sports and occasionally channel 4 do this. I enjoy listening to the foreign commentary because you can see the passion for the sport, and they enjoy the race no matter what happens. They do get more excited when their driver wins or does well, for example Zhou in Bahrain and the Chinese crew. I just don't believe they hate on other drivers as much as sky. I know the sky crew love F1, but if you listen to the comments they make in the shows and on commentary, it's clear to hear the difference between a Hamilton win and for example a Leclerc or Verstappen win. I mean I listened to the f1 show on the Thursday before Abu Dhabi on YT. It had Pinkham and a few others in. I don't normally watch it but because of the occasion I did. I switched off after 10 minutes, because all they spoke about was Hamilton. I have nothing against Lewis, he's the best driver the sport has ever had, but they hardly spoke about max. They mentioned him for all of about 1 minute. Anyways, stage safe :)
There is alot of recency bias going on with some of those lol. I thought the one girl who brought up the it should come from a grass roots place was a good argument. We saw danika join indy and it was treated as a PR stunt. It would be good to see more get in on Merritt.
Completely agree but I hate when this argument gets tainted by sexism like F1 is a sexist sport. There's no rule stopping women the only reason we don't see women drivers is because none are good enough. The only reason there's no one good enough is because not enough apply to begin with like the girl said, your not gonna find gold if you only sift one tiny part of the river
1. Car is more important 2. Yes massively biased 3. Impossible to compare different eras 4. Yes, however I won't mind when he steps aside for a youngster. 5. No he has 4x world titles 🤣 6. Probably not, so much male talent in junior categories finding a woman who's better than all of them will be unlikely
All you can and should do is encourage and support the girl drivers the same as the boys every opportunity equal. But if no female driver is good/better than the male drivers then there will be no females in F1 and that is okay.
For sure, no one should be given a seat for the sake of tokenism. I just hope there are young girls learning their craft in carts in the same way boys have traditionally done so they can grow up to be competitors. F1 isn't a sport based on physical strength so there is no reason why an equally trained and gifted woman shouldn't be able to compete at the top.
I read somewhere that Will Buxton was asked to predict the 2025 F1 lineup and he put Jamie Chadwick in a Williams seat. W Series now awarding super license points is a good start but considering that it's only eligible for a 3 year period, that means that she'd have to win the next two seasons in order to meet the 40 point requirement. Hopefully, the WEC and F3 tests are a sign that things are moving in the right direction.
Has that lad in the red actually watched Sophia Floersch? She's awful. Alessio Deledda level awful. There will be a woman in F1 when one comes along and wins international F3/F2.
Opinion: Sebastian Vettel is better than Lewis Hamilton. He is not the GOAT but looking at Seb he had some bad seasons Lewis had one in 2011. Well Seb had a bad car more times than Lewis. Seb also is the youngest world champion, he has the most wins in a row record which can not be broken by Hamilton who had the best car so many years. Seb also was outperforming the opposition more than Lewis when he had the best car in 2011 and 2013 while Lewis did that only once in 2020. In terms of their teammates both Webber and Rosberg and Bottas are on the same level, so you can't say that Vettel had a worse teammate.
Seb is not overrated he is still the 3rd most successful driver of f1 and we need to agree the sf1000 and this year's aston was shit... and he is pushing the limits of the aston, if they could provide a good car he can be in the top 5 again, yes he lost his prime but he still got that itch to win
Q1: Agree; is Russell better than Tsunoda? IMO, yes, but he's still behind Yuki so the car is more important. Q2: somewhat disagree; the media is biased towards where the media source is from, not just British, but yes all the biggest media companies are British and have british bias. Q3: Disagree; how do you compare Fangio and Schumacher for example? Q4: Agree: He's better than 80% of the grid, why on earth should he not deserve it? Q5: Somewhat agree; Yes you can call a 4-time champ overrated, if he's overrated. I've seen lots of discussion where for example they compare Alonso vs Vettel. Alonso is clear IMO, 2010 and 2012, the RB was alot better and Alonso still got into a championship decider finale. Q6: Disagree; who would that be? If you look at the FIA Karting junior championship results, they're all boys. in the W-Series nobody has proven that they can match the best males.
What triggered me is that he thinks Vettel is overrated because of his recent performances. Put that logic on Nando’s 2007 season or pre-2005 season and he wouldn’t even be in the talk of all-time-greats.
about the vettel is overrated question... I get feeling like the half that agree doesn't rlly get the term ? Cuz from all ppl I know they don't rate drivers by each year but by their whole carrer ? so what that he isn't performing like before... but in his era ... he was rockin mate..
I think the overrated element is related to overexpectation, a lot of people thought that ferrari did him dirty and that he'd suddenly start setting the world alight in the Aston Martin when really the truth was that while Ferrari weren't the best to him they did give him a car capable of winning a WDC and he didn't make the best of the opportunity. He's not the driver he was in his RB dominance era and likely won't ever be again, this doesn't mean he's not a great driver but he's fallen away from that top tier
Q1: 100% the car matters more than the driver. If you put Nikita Mazepin in a 2021 Mercedes and Lewis in a 2021 Haas, Mazepin would outperform Hamilton purely because the peak performance of the Haas is worse than the average performance of the Mercedes. Q2: As a British person, the British/Worldwide F1 broadcast is heavily biased. Maybe it’s because certain pundits just don’t like certain drivers, maybe it’s to boost prevalence of British drivers, but there’s definitely a bias there that you can see with every pundit (excluding Nico when he comes on, Nico is legendary purely for how savage and chaotic he is) Q3: GOAT status cannot be achieved. Records will be broken, the world always moves on. If you look purely on statistics, Hamilton is the GOAT, but add some context to that and you realise he’s a great driver in a dominating car. Look at Schumi and you see a great driver in a dominant car willing to play dirty to win, but he built 3 separate teams into championship teams. Benetton were nowhere without Schumi, he dragged Ferrari out of their worst slump in history to their greatest dominance, he built the still-standing foundations for the Mercedes we know today. Q4: Yes, he definitely deserves his seat. Did you see his defence on Lewis at Hungary? Did you see him having over 100 overtakes this season? His status definitely helped his comeback, but his seat is deserved by his pure class this season. Q5: To call Seb overrated for his current loss of form is to call Hamilton overrated because of his form in 2011. It’s arbitrary, Vettel has won 4 WDC’s in cars where his teammate didn’t finish 2nd in a WDC once. Give 2013 Vettel a Mercedes and 9 years to fine-tune it to his liking and you’ve got yourself a decade of domination. Q6: I honestly don’t think women will ever succeed in F1. Not now, not in 10 years, probably not ever. People really don’t understand how physically demanding driving open-wheelers are and there are physical limits women reach that (in athletes) men can surpass. Even if you exclude that physicality problem, there’s just more men interested in motorsport and more men in the talent pool at the moment. These female drivers we constantly talk about have had strong financial backing, otherwise they wouldn’t have made it this far at all. So why has Mazepin (who many F1 fans call talentless) found an F1 seat and they haven’t? It’s because Mazepin, although poor by F1 standards, was a race winner in F2 and still finished high enough in the standings for a super license in a very unlucky season for himself. The best women right now need a female only category because they’ve realised they aren’t talented enough for the junior series of the pinnacle of motorsport. It definitely won’t happen in the next 10 years unless a team is struggling so much for sponsors and PR that they hire a woman as a pay-driver to drive for them. That’s just my take, good to see others able to voice opinions on the channel and having actual conversations about it. Hope we get more of this content to come!
About the first statement, if you put the 10th best driver in the best car, he will win races. If you put the best driver in the 10th best (out of 20) car, he won’t win any races (unless a crazy race happens).
Irina Sidorkova and Nirea Marti, have had a test for F3 to "get used to [the] machinery" in the words of the F3 and F2 CEO, so those two might be going into F3 when their contract with the W Series Academy team ends, but I am still somewhat on the fence about seeing a woman in 10 years on the F1 grid like I would love to see a woman beat F1 records set by men to show the world the woman are equal if not better than men in the sport, but I do have to agree with what those women said, alot of women are starting in their late teens but Sidorkova started when she was 6 so there are some who are starting as young as the boys
If Lewis doesn’t win the 8th championship, there is no way that you can call him the goat over Michael! Also to call Seb overrated, idk about that… of course everyone is entitled to their opinion
You can still call him the goat, because either way he is statistically the most successful driver. However the true answer is that they are both goats of their eras
M sch, looked like an average driver when he was driving for Mercedes. Making me think, the car is at least 90% of the results in a race. And the drivers are between 10% to 5%.
Honestly I’d love to see Women compete in F1 day but sadly we won’t see that in the near future given that F1 has signed on multi year contracts with quite a number of middle eastern countries (who we all know just loves gender equality😍)
Car way more important. Bit of British bias, not intentional but it's definitely there. Goat question impossible to answer because car is way more important. Obv Fernando deserves to be back, he's not as good as he used to be probably, but he's still better than a lot of the grid. overrated? Idk how people rate him. He's a fine driver, not as good as he used to be, but not like the worst on the grid. Woman won't compete in F1 within the next 10 years, at least it's incredibly unlikely. The best female drivers right now can't even compete at F3 level, maybe not even Formula Regional. That's a lot of steps away from F1. It will happen eventually, but not as soon as the next 10 years.
I can't believe people have forgotten how M S got his championships. In the mid 90s he was banned for 2 races and Benetton were finded 500k for using illegal Launch control and traction control. He took out Damon Hill and was not punished, he then tried to take out Jacques Villeneuve, this time he had all his points for the year removed. He should not be included in talks about the new world champion Max and 7 time world champion Lewis
About the British biased... I'll just ask anyone to go watch the Estoril GP where Mansel ignored the black flag and caused a crash with Senna and the British commentators where somewhat blaming Senna and supporting Mansel on the case...
On that last one. Would I like to see a woman in F1? Yes. Do I think it will ever happen? No. And it has nothing to do with grassroots in my opinion. Unfortunately women have a biological disadvantage, so the woman who can compete on the same level as the men in F1 is 100% gonna be the GOAT. I think a better alternative would be to have W Series elevated from a support series into a sister series to F1 with its own feeder series supporting it.
Like the car question has one answer. The car is 80% the drivier 20% so the car is way more important. You can win the drivers title with average drivers but you cant win the drivers title with average cars. Look at russel, isnt even able to get into q3 most of the time, even though the woman rates him so high (just had a Lucky strategy in belgium qualifying that made it able for him to even start p2).
There have been women in f1 before. Why wouldn't it be possible now? But maybe they should get through f3 and f4 before getting in f1 because that would be just unfair
Lots of reasons women aren't in formula one. As a young girl I wanted to race in F1 but didn't have the money to start. I started at 16. Got 29 podiums and 13 wins in karts. However, money is a massive problem and I won't be able to move up unless I get massive sponsorship.
The problem with female racing drivers is, W series is broken, it’s a stand alone series that you can’t place the level of because you have a massively spread talent pool
I have just this to say: all video, british bias 😬 if you guys could do this with fans from all over the world (via zoom or something) the aswers would be more interesting ☺️
The Car is More Important Than the Driver: Disagree. They are equally important. You mean to tell me that if Andrea De Cesaris was in a McLaren, he'd be a World Champion? BS. F1 Media is Inherently British Biased: Somewhat agree. Not that it's a bad thing. A lot of F1 fans are British, and you have got so many British presenters and commentators on the Sky F1, Channel 4 F1 and F1 UA-cam Channel. The only non-British personalities that leap out are Rosberg and Webber. But at the end of the day, what does it matter? Michael Schumacher is the GOAT: Absolutely Agree. Though Lewis is statistically a better driver, I'd argue being a champion in Michael's time required a bit less technological know-how, and a little more reliance on the driver's skillset. Fernando Alonso deserves to be back in F1: Somewhat agreed. Who doesn't like Fernando? He's putting in some solid performances with Alpine. Also F1 does need some legends to rely upon for marketing, and to draw in older fans. (i.e: Kimi, Fernando, Sebastian, Lewis) Sebastian Vettel is overrated: Absolutely not. How can one call Vettel overrated when he's not even the best driver in F1 history. Such a bizarre concept to me. A woman will compete in F1 in the next 10 years: Probably not. I hate to say no, but as mentioned in the video, the W Series cars are basically F4 spec. And it takes a lot more for the women to earn the relevant superlicense points which isn't really fair to be honest. And honestly "grassroots" is not the answer. How many drivers in recent years have made it to F1 via the grassroots way, and not because they came from money, or had contacts who had money? There are some, sure, but not many.
The car is 80%/ the driver 20% in F1. Especially in this hybrid era, it has become more apparant, then ever, but it has in many ways it has allways been like this! Exepct from the very strange season of 2012, no season in modern times, has ever seen more then three teams been competitive & winning races in the same season. To put it this way, Mazapin would have been up at the front in the Merc, Hamilton would have been at the back in the Haas. In 2000 Michael won in the Ferrari, & Massacane drove the Minardi, & Michael would never have won in that Minardi, & Massacane would have been competitive in the Ferrari. Just as Senna would be at the back in 1990, in the Brabham, instead of winning for McLaren! It"s as simple as that. Hopefully #NextGen can fix some of that problem, which in many ways is one of the longest facing issues of F1. But let"s face it F1 will never be a Single make championship. If that is your thing, then watch Indycar or F2 ;)
See i’ve only been watching closely on F1 on 2021 but been a fan since I think 2020 or probably before But I have to say this but Vettel will never become overrated I think his career was just ruined by the 2020 season he went through...
I mean obviously British media and commentators on British channels is biased towards British drivers, but is the general f1 media as a whole biased. Is for example the f1 social media teams biased towards British drivers? I think that’s what’s actually interesting
This was a lot more reasonable than expected. Except when that dude said Vettel is proving criticisms from last season wrong 🤣 He‘s only just about beating Lance Stroll! (points are irrelevant here cause there’s luck involved with that. When comparing actual pace, he‘s barely beaten him over the season) Leclerc would still slap Vettel up just like last year
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It will be cool if all the drivers are put into a Same car and see how they perform!!
I feel like the girl in the jumper is some of F1 twitter personified at the beginning 😅 absolutely aghast that other people think differently or have a different opinion lol.
Thought the same, if someone thinks differently she just shouts louder instead of listening to other points to get a more rounded view of what people apart from her think
Yep to her and a hell of alot of folk online its not " Formula 1 " its " Lewis and pals "
I love how they disrespect Michael Schumacher
like that straight after the British bias question lol.
Hahahahahaha I know I got the exact same thought.
I would argue for Hamilton up until this season, but he himself has shown and said that when you have a faster car you are faster. He said that he cannot do anything with someone in a faster car so he admitted that no one could do anything with him
@@Traxxmaciek they literally said there are way too many variables over generations to have one Goat. Your anti-Hamilton attitude associates anything not favouring the other person to be 'British bias'.
And get this, Lewis is black. He has gotten far more abuse and hate throughout his career than bias.
@@Traxxmaciek so you are saying that a driver who hasnt won a wdc is the goat?
@@bluessi2378 what are you on about?
@@bluessi2378 "i like apples" "so you are saying you hate oranges?"
The young lady in the white trainers definitely has a lot of insight into the sport. Agreed with pretty much all of her positions to the questions asked. She's the only one who actually thought about what stance to take for each question
Specially when she said Seb wasn't overrated.
@@aashutoshgaurav5674 of course he isn't overrated bud, he's a 4 time world champion, doesn't matter if he did it a decade ago or doing it now
@@cheapestf1598 "before you burn me alive", come on, serious?
Why would be angry about an opinion? 😂
I definitely see your point of view. But people will always rate him given what he's done for the sport, it's more out of respect. I understand drivers and just people change over time, wouldn't say he's a title contender for a good number of years now
@@cheapestf1598 I dont think he's overrated, and I think his form from before "the turning point" (Germany 2018, as a devout Seb fan since 2008 he's NEVER been the same since) is still lingering around somewhere, for example Monaco this year. I wont say Baku or Hungary because those were both helped out by front-runner setbacks or retirements, but I will say Monaco because every person that should've been in front of my Super Seb, he beat on merit that day. P5 without many retirements in the 7th fastest car is no joke, especially considering that the AM is essentially the reverse of the Alpine, meaning no qualy pace, all race pace. Lately he's been able to keep up with faster cars like we just saw today catching Norris at the end of the race for P10. IN SHORT: Seb's still got it. He's not all the way there yet, but people think that he's nowhere still because we think the AMR21 is faster than we should be giving it credit for, when I think it's in between the Alpine/Team Gasly and the Williams almost exactly, and both drivers, Seb and Lance, are both performing well/ok.
@@ajorngjdonaydbr to be fair, being over or under rated is totally subjective
Vettel never had the same kind of support in Ferrari as other drivers like Schumacher had. He was mentally exhausted. Add to that the constant fuckups from Ferrari in race strategy in 2017/18. You can't compare seb and Lewis and say one guy is overrated. I'd like to see Hamilton in a Ferrari trying to win a championship first before making that comparison. Greatest drivers in formula 1 history have a failed at Ferrari. It's a completely different kind of atmosphere and pressure.
Yep. Both Alonso and Prost both couldn't win either, and Ferrari only gave them one title competing car between the two of them in a total of seven years (Prost 1990).
Yeah, Mercedes was definitely the path of least resistance mind-wise. Merc offered Vettel a contract for 2017 I believe to replace Rosberg, if only what could've been. (If I'm wrong, which I very well could be, please tell me nicely!)
@@averagesundaydriver8122 I am not sure either but I cannot really imagine it. Toto Wolff sad he never would have put Nico and Lewis alongside if he was in charge at that time so I cannot think of him offering Seb a seat next to Lewis. But as I sad I do not have a definite answer.
@@elevenpro7989 I see your point, but maybe it could be a temptation he could fall into having the two most successful drivers on the grid all to yourself on a dominant team to just duke it out, while Red Bull have Verstappen & Ricciardo but their car is 1, not as fast as yours, and 2, super unreliable.
Edit: And Ferrari in 2017 would be useless, even with the best car, considering Kimi wasn’t in good form and god only knows who they’d get for a second driver.
He had not the support..
They gave him the keys of the team by having useless Kimi next to him and giving him 2017 and 2018 cars which were good enough to at least have seasons finale..
Kimi, seb, fernando and even George have all proved that the car matters a lot, A “bad” driver in a good car will definitely outscore a a good driver in a haas
Ye like Vettel had multiple year with 200+ point and now he cant score 50? Is he getting 10× worst or the car isnt just up to it
@@ehrlichgesagt863 the car mate. Aston really struggling. Hopefully next yesr they're better
@@rickjames1797 Yeah not a lot of people really catch onto the fact that Lance & Seb are making that AMR21 look a lot faster than we should be giving it credit for.
@@averagesundaydriver8122 yea its legit just a 2 year old mercedes with half a floor lmao
Schumacher litteraly won 2 title in the forth best car, beating Prost and all the other driver and then procede to win the title in 2000 if the McLaren was still better. A great driver in a bad car will still show his skill and yea if you put Hamilton in a 2021 haas i don't think he can win the title but still perform much better than mazepin
Schumi built the team from ground up, not just Ferrari but also the Mercedes we see today, didn't have the best car handed to him. So for me he is goat.
And it doesn't matter how you perform now or did then, when you are a 4 time wdc and a legend of the sport, you can never be overrated. Yes, Vettel is not the goat, but he is in the top 10 of all time.
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Schumi developed the car and helped team culture more so with Ferrari, what he did with mercedes was obviously not as significant as many ppl left after he retired for the final time and smth ppl seem to forget is that 2 years after he left the regs changed so much that he pretty much never developed that setup.
Vettel is not the GOAT, (nobody really is, again hard to compare eras i.e (Hamilton v. Senna v. Fangio) but of those specific regulation set ('09-13) it is arguable he was the best of that era.
@@averagesundaydriver8122 yes the key point is that some drivers can be beast in some regulations and in others they might be not. So are they still GOAT ??
About the Vettel question though the guy who disagreed mentioned his performance decline in the last two years being the reason but the same thing happened with schumi in mercedes where he was beaten by his teammate and had some horrific crashes which also ruined others races, so by that logic can you call Michael Schumacher overrated similarly you cannot call a 4 time wdc overrated, definitely his performance has dropped off but overrated nah
But you can. He's overrated. See i just did 😅
I kinda get it but also disagree. Vettel is underapppreciated all time cuz of his 4 wdcs so he deserves love there. But it’s the fact that’s ppl r comparing him to the top drivers in f1 currently and he’s just not at the Same level
Vettel won 2 of his 4 championships in dominant cars with a poor team mate (sorry Mark). Whereas someone like Alonso had to fight tooth and nail in an absolute dog of a car to take the fight down to the wire.
@@LuminalSpoon Yeh that is completely true and I would say CURRENTLY vettel is overrated. And also all time, Alonso has been better just has made bad career choices and like you said never had a dominant car
@@LuminalSpoon no one is comparing Vettel to Alonso I am just saying Vettel is not overrated. And Alonso was slightly lucky with 2005 season because he had only kimi as a title rival in that season and that mclaren was very unreliable so going by your logic Alonso only had a title fight in 2006, and that Ferrari was only bad for the first part of the 2012 season because if you see the qualifying results of those you can clearly see the improvements Ferrari made to that car throughout the season and it eventually became a very decent car by the mid season break, and again I agree Alonso is overall a better driver than Vettel but i am just saying Vettel is not overrated.
This video since ha a lot of British and modern bias imho. If you take young British fans is obvious that statistically, they would support Lewis,Lando and George. I think that the discussion would have been more interesting if there was a more diverse debate by having older and foreign people.
Yeah right good luck getting that. Considering this is a British UA-cam channel in the UK😂😂😂.
The problem with the British media bias problem is that they're broadcasted in almost all the world. If you watch Italian coverage is clear bias towards Ferrari but this is not a problem since it is broadcasted only here(I'm Italian)
Yes the world feed should be different than the British
@@TeamSukiyo yeh I agree but the issue is that English is a more widespread language globally
@@bizarrebunny5579 Of course but that doesn’t mean the pundits should be British. Most involved with F1 actually speak English.
Here in Norway we have our own Norwegian commentators, and I absolutely hate it. They aren't exiting at all and just boring. Didn't have much to do with your comment, but I just had to get the rant out there haha
that british bias question… being from a place that is not england, i felt that everyone was holding on slightly to their british bias still… everyone didnt make much of an argument rather than the blonde girl.
Yep. Proven by their immediate response to the following question haha.
There isn’t a woman good enough (yet) to race in F1, period. There is nothing political about it. Teams would KILL to have a female driver that is somewhat decent. The commercial possibilities of a woman driver are phenomenal. But she needs to be at least as good as, say Latifi, or better.
It’s sad really but true. I think there will be a female driver in 10 years but we need one good enough as when you get down to it talent is all that matters.
I just feel that for women to be even looked at to be considered into the formula ranks, the cars in the W series need to be upgraded to a certain standard where it can be similar on the levels of formula 4, formula 3 or formula 2. Right now it just seems that the specs they have in the W series are purposely built to be slower than any of these other cars. I would also like to include that with Formula 1 creating a W series it makes this a bit more difficult rather than having women already competing in the same ranks as F4, F3 and F2
The W series cars are the same as the F4 Asia cars iirc. Still a valid stepping stone.
about the vettel is overrated question... at any point of the domination in f1 history, no one had the talent to put his car on the top step of the podium for 9 times in a row. clearly he is not overrated.
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Yeah, even Lewis couldn't do it with the W11.
While i agree that Vettel is not overrated, I completely disagree with the reason stated. simply because all the greats of the past rarely had a car that could COMPLETE 9 straight races. To say they did not have the talent is complete BS. Reliability was the limiting factor, not talent.
Though I agree, you can’t really determine a true GOAT solely based on racing performance as all the eras of Formula 1 have been so vastly different, I’d still say Michael would make the strongest case for himself.
Why is that? He basically build up not 1, not 2, but 3 teams up to be world championship winners.
He drove for Benetton and made them world champions. He left them at the height of their performance to go to Ferrari to pull them out of one of their biggest slums and ring in one of the most dominant eras of Formula 1. And sure, after he came back with Mercedes he didn’t bring in the same performances as before, but he laid the ground work to make it the team with pretty much the most dominant era of all time.
I think we look at the goat the completely wrong way. It should be worked out by number of wins to number of races run, hammy is like 5th or 6th in that case
I agree with the Benetton and Ferrari, but not the Merc, he kinda helped with team culture but a lot of the staff changed after he left anf even Ross Brawn left, also I think crediting Michael solely for Benett9n and Ferrari is a bit unfair to Byrne, Brawn and Todt, they were a super team for non driver personnel in F1
@@psalmco2425 Oh I absolutely agree, the people around him in the teams were critically important as well. But for a driver Michael was so incredibly involved in every process considered to most other drivers.
In regards to Merc, that's why I said: "laid the groundwork". Even though there were a lot of changes in the team after he left, the team wouldn't have been able to do so and perform at this level without the work put in by Michael and those who worked there before.
@@psalmco2425 Schumacher also lured Brawn and Byrne to Ferrari (via his manager Willi Weber), so Michael was very important in that aspect as well.
@@snfcbmf12799 he only agreed to move to ferrari if Brawn and Byrne did so as well, hes loyal to his people as well, he only went to mercedes as he stated cuz Ross was there as well so it goes both ways.
British media treats Alonso like shit let alone Max and other drivers
A woman will make it in the next 10 years but not because she deserves it a team will put her in for sponsors and PR but it will be a bad look and will make people not want to see any women in the sport.
That is ashame, there should be women in f1 on merit, but as you say that idea is not alien.
@@HT-lr1rs I disagree that there *should* be women in F1. The best drivers should be in F1, regardless of gender. If there happen to be women in F1 on merit, I don't care. I don't care if the grid is all women, all men, or any mix of both.
I give it a less than 5% chance that a female driver gets a full-time F1 seat in the next 10 years. The talent among current single-seater drivers is not there. But I will optimistically say that a female driver will probably get a full-time F1 seat in the next 25 years. As Steph says, it's all about getting more girls karting from a young age to increase the chances of someone with the potential to make it to F1 actually developing enough, fulfilling that potential and making it.
I think you are right in spirit... But I think we will see a woman in Formula 1 within 10 years purely on politics. Some team will be more than happy to take the first almost acceptable (but not really acceptable) candidate and thrust her into the spotlight, even if she is not ready, just to be the first team to have that driver and garner the attention that comes with it. By the end of the decade I'm betting we see it.
@@jesse1086 yeah probably like Juju Noda.
Yea but one thing that needs to stop being ignored for purely political reasons, the very core reason for why there aren’t many women in formula 1, is the fundamental fact that men and women are different. And among our differences are differences in interests and ambitions. There just aren’t nearly as many women who WANT to be Motorsport drivers, and so with so little of them there it’s very easy for them to get filtered out. There isn’t really decent chance for a woman to be the one topping the times because if the sheer lack of them in the pool. And this isn’t a totally bad thing. The reason it’s seen as a bad thing is because whenever we see a male dominated space we immediately jump to the idea of discrimination and while there is undoubtedly an existence of that in some areas, the interests are the Main driving forces behind the number of women compared to men. The same can be said for female dominated areas. So while you can say that more effort can be made to get girls interested and karting, at what point do you draw the line, and are not just trying to pull more girls in just because you want the number of girls to go up and not because these girls actually want to do this. With all that said I still see a woman in f1 within the next 10 years but probably not for the right reasons.
Edit: when I say it’s not a bad thing what I actually meant to say was that it’s not the result of bad intentions. My bad
Abbi pulling is decent doesn't have budget though
@@maxbrink4558 wasn't she in a big accident when she hit the sausage kerbs and fractured her vertebrae?
Damn they really made F1 Twitter into a video
Personally, I believe the British Media Had Always been Biased. Has Been For Years, Watch the end of the 2013 Indian Gp and listen k the way they celebrated a historic moment, then listen to how they sound when Hamilton wins one race
True but that ends up being all media. French media towards French drivers, Italian towards Italian, Spanish towards Spanish, and especially Dutch towards Dutch. The British generally are the most highlighted though as them being English means that they reach more people
@@metrofilmer8894 yeah I understand that. I just think that they don't throw a tantrum when their driver doesn't win. Sky sports and occasionally channel 4 do this. I enjoy listening to the foreign commentary because you can see the passion for the sport, and they enjoy the race no matter what happens. They do get more excited when their driver wins or does well, for example Zhou in Bahrain and the Chinese crew. I just don't believe they hate on other drivers as much as sky. I know the sky crew love F1, but if you listen to the comments they make in the shows and on commentary, it's clear to hear the difference between a Hamilton win and for example a Leclerc or Verstappen win. I mean I listened to the f1 show on the Thursday before Abu Dhabi on YT. It had Pinkham and a few others in. I don't normally watch it but because of the occasion I did. I switched off after 10 minutes, because all they spoke about was Hamilton. I have nothing against Lewis, he's the best driver the sport has ever had, but they hardly spoke about max. They mentioned him for all of about 1 minute. Anyways, stage safe :)
There is alot of recency bias going on with some of those lol. I thought the one girl who brought up the it should come from a grass roots place was a good argument. We saw danika join indy and it was treated as a PR stunt. It would be good to see more get in on Merritt.
Completely agree but I hate when this argument gets tainted by sexism like F1 is a sexist sport. There's no rule stopping women the only reason we don't see women drivers is because none are good enough. The only reason there's no one good enough is because not enough apply to begin with like the girl said, your not gonna find gold if you only sift one tiny part of the river
1. Car is more important
2. Yes massively biased
3. Impossible to compare different eras
4. Yes, however I won't mind when he steps aside for a youngster.
5. No he has 4x world titles 🤣
6. Probably not, so much male talent in junior categories finding a woman who's better than all of them will be unlikely
All you can and should do is encourage and support the girl drivers the same as the boys every opportunity equal. But if no female driver is good/better than the male drivers then there will be no females in F1 and that is okay.
For sure, no one should be given a seat for the sake of tokenism. I just hope there are young girls learning their craft in carts in the same way boys have traditionally done so they can grow up to be competitors. F1 isn't a sport based on physical strength so there is no reason why an equally trained and gifted woman shouldn't be able to compete at the top.
I read somewhere that Will Buxton was asked to predict the 2025 F1 lineup and he put Jamie Chadwick in a Williams seat. W Series now awarding super license points is a good start but considering that it's only eligible for a 3 year period, that means that she'd have to win the next two seasons in order to meet the 40 point requirement. Hopefully, the WEC and F3 tests are a sign that things are moving in the right direction.
There will never be a woman in this sport and there shouldn’t be
@@user-fn5xg7qt7u bit sexiest mate, they have just as much talent
I think that Abbi Pulling is a strong contender in the future. And Alisha Palmowski just won the ginetta scholarship for 2022
@@TCCcompetition no they don’t why hasn’t a woman won an F3 or F2 championship then
@@user-fn5xg7qt7u because they haven't had the opportunity. They dont get the same backing as men, they never have and thats the thing
Has that lad in the red actually watched Sophia Floersch? She's awful. Alessio Deledda level awful. There will be a woman in F1 when one comes along and wins international F3/F2.
Opinion: Sebastian Vettel is better than Lewis Hamilton. He is not the GOAT but looking at Seb he had some bad seasons Lewis had one in 2011. Well Seb had a bad car more times than Lewis. Seb also is the youngest world champion, he has the most wins in a row record which can not be broken by Hamilton who had the best car so many years. Seb also was outperforming the opposition more than Lewis when he had the best car in 2011 and 2013 while Lewis did that only once in 2020. In terms of their teammates both Webber and Rosberg and Bottas are on the same level, so you can't say that Vettel had a worse teammate.
it's all about starting young, seat time, and money if you want to secure an F1seat. Gender isn't the issue
This video had British bias 😂😂
Exactly lol
I mean they are in the uk so what are you expecting. Do this with Dutch fans and you’ll get just as much if not more Dutch bias
Did Alonso outperform 2012 Ferrari more than Charles Leclerc outperformed 2020 Ferrari?
Interesting question.
Absolutely, you can't even compare the two drivers.
Seb is not overrated he is still the 3rd most successful driver of f1 and we need to agree the sf1000 and this year's aston was shit... and he is pushing the limits of the aston, if they could provide a good car he can be in the top 5 again, yes he lost his prime but he still got that itch to win
I am only 1 minute in the video and the video is already hell on earth
I think We will see Jamie Chadwick and or Abby Pulling or some other talented female driver in Fp1 and doing testing for teams in the next few years.
Jamie was nowhere in European single seaters, they should search for the ideal female candidate in karting
Jamie will be able to do FP1s next year. She has 26 Super Licence points and you need 25 for a free practice licence for F1.
@@anthonywp415 She finished consistently in the points in Formula Regional last year, including 1 podium at Misano. She isn't uncompetitive.
@@Spermwhales93 she will hopefully do fp1 for Williams a few times next year.
@@Spermwhales93 compare that to consistent winners I wouldn’t move her up…
For a woman driver to join F1 we should look at karting
Q1: Agree; is Russell better than Tsunoda? IMO, yes, but he's still behind Yuki so the car is more important. Q2: somewhat disagree; the media is biased towards where the media source is from, not just British, but yes all the biggest media companies are British and have british bias. Q3: Disagree; how do you compare Fangio and Schumacher for example? Q4: Agree: He's better than 80% of the grid, why on earth should he not deserve it? Q5: Somewhat agree; Yes you can call a 4-time champ overrated, if he's overrated. I've seen lots of discussion where for example they compare Alonso vs Vettel. Alonso is clear IMO, 2010 and 2012, the RB was alot better and Alonso still got into a championship decider finale. Q6: Disagree; who would that be? If you look at the FIA Karting junior championship results, they're all boys. in the W-Series nobody has proven that they can match the best males.
stands on somewhat disagree but dies on the hill... just look at jenson buttons championship car
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What triggered me is that he thinks Vettel is overrated because of his recent performances. Put that logic on Nando’s 2007 season or pre-2005 season and he wouldn’t even be in the talk of all-time-greats.
2012. 2010. He has and always will be in his prime and in the GOAT debate.
Coming from someone outside the UK who is forced to watch f1 on sky sports, f1 media is 100% British biased.
about the vettel is overrated question... I get feeling like the half that agree doesn't rlly get the term ? Cuz from all ppl I know they don't rate drivers by each year but by their whole carrer ? so what that he isn't performing like before... but in his era ... he was rockin mate..
I think the overrated element is related to overexpectation, a lot of people thought that ferrari did him dirty and that he'd suddenly start setting the world alight in the Aston Martin when really the truth was that while Ferrari weren't the best to him they did give him a car capable of winning a WDC and he didn't make the best of the opportunity. He's not the driver he was in his RB dominance era and likely won't ever be again, this doesn't mean he's not a great driver but he's fallen away from that top tier
Thanks so much for the opportunity guys! Loved the experience even if it was terrifying😂
Wait which guy were you?
@@Riskzey tall one with the curly hair
Q1: 100% the car matters more than the driver. If you put Nikita Mazepin in a 2021 Mercedes and Lewis in a 2021 Haas, Mazepin would outperform Hamilton purely because the peak performance of the Haas is worse than the average performance of the Mercedes.
Q2: As a British person, the British/Worldwide F1 broadcast is heavily biased. Maybe it’s because certain pundits just don’t like certain drivers, maybe it’s to boost prevalence of British drivers, but there’s definitely a bias there that you can see with every pundit (excluding Nico when he comes on, Nico is legendary purely for how savage and chaotic he is)
Q3: GOAT status cannot be achieved. Records will be broken, the world always moves on. If you look purely on statistics, Hamilton is the GOAT, but add some context to that and you realise he’s a great driver in a dominating car. Look at Schumi and you see a great driver in a dominant car willing to play dirty to win, but he built 3 separate teams into championship teams. Benetton were nowhere without Schumi, he dragged Ferrari out of their worst slump in history to their greatest dominance, he built the still-standing foundations for the Mercedes we know today.
Q4: Yes, he definitely deserves his seat. Did you see his defence on Lewis at Hungary? Did you see him having over 100 overtakes this season? His status definitely helped his comeback, but his seat is deserved by his pure class this season.
Q5: To call Seb overrated for his current loss of form is to call Hamilton overrated because of his form in 2011. It’s arbitrary, Vettel has won 4 WDC’s in cars where his teammate didn’t finish 2nd in a WDC once. Give 2013 Vettel a Mercedes and 9 years to fine-tune it to his liking and you’ve got yourself a decade of domination.
Q6: I honestly don’t think women will ever succeed in F1. Not now, not in 10 years, probably not ever. People really don’t understand how physically demanding driving open-wheelers are and there are physical limits women reach that (in athletes) men can surpass. Even if you exclude that physicality problem, there’s just more men interested in motorsport and more men in the talent pool at the moment. These female drivers we constantly talk about have had strong financial backing, otherwise they wouldn’t have made it this far at all. So why has Mazepin (who many F1 fans call talentless) found an F1 seat and they haven’t? It’s because Mazepin, although poor by F1 standards, was a race winner in F2 and still finished high enough in the standings for a super license in a very unlucky season for himself. The best women right now need a female only category because they’ve realised they aren’t talented enough for the junior series of the pinnacle of motorsport. It definitely won’t happen in the next 10 years unless a team is struggling so much for sponsors and PR that they hire a woman as a pay-driver to drive for them.
That’s just my take, good to see others able to voice opinions on the channel and having actual conversations about it. Hope we get more of this content to come!
Schumi is the goat. Lewis hasn't had to overcome what Schumi had to in terms of car and competition.
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If F1 really wants women to race in F1. The best solution I think is to make 1 male and 1 female drive for each team.
About the first statement, if you put the 10th best driver in the best car, he will win races. If you put the best driver in the 10th best (out of 20) car, he won’t win any races (unless a crazy race happens).
These 5 smashed it! Really solid opinions from everyone!
Thanks Haydon 💙
Don't think I could come and do this.
This was such a fun video to be apart of! Thanks for having my guys! So far the comments haven’t been too bad… 😂
Irina Sidorkova and Nirea Marti, have had a test for F3 to "get used to [the] machinery" in the words of the F3 and F2 CEO, so those two might be going into F3 when their contract with the W Series Academy team ends, but I am still somewhat on the fence about seeing a woman in 10 years on the F1 grid like I would love to see a woman beat F1 records set by men to show the world the woman are equal if not better than men in the sport, but I do have to agree with what those women said, alot of women are starting in their late teens but Sidorkova started when she was 6 so there are some who are starting as young as the boys
anyone who has to watch f1 in english outside of the uk will agree it is 100% british bias
Funny how you can say the cars more important than the driver but then call Vettel over rated because he’s not as good as he used to be 😅
If Lewis doesn’t win the 8th championship, there is no way that you can call him the goat over Michael! Also to call Seb overrated, idk about that… of course everyone is entitled to their opinion
You can still call him the goat, because either way he is statistically the most successful driver. However the true answer is that they are both goats of their eras
@@callumparker3293 he is complete shit. All he had was a superior car
@@dilindy7718 then you would have to say Verstappen is mediocre considering they’re battling
@@dilindy7718 and so as Schumacher
@@dilindy7718 Ah Yes, because Michael won his titles in an Arrows, right?
M sch, looked like an average driver when he was driving for Mercedes. Making me think, the car is at least 90% of the results in a race. And the drivers are between 10% to 5%.
To be fair, he was in Mercedes more for helping in car development, rather than fighting for championships
Well he wasnt in f1 for a while when he joined and he was getting quite old for an f1 driver so isn't really suprising that he wasn't as good anymore
That statement shows why younger F1 fans look stupid
that guy in red is a muppet
Honestly I’d love to see Women compete in F1 day but sadly we won’t see that in the near future given that F1 has signed on multi year contracts with quite a number of middle eastern countries (who we all know just loves gender equality😍)
Car way more important.
Bit of British bias, not intentional but it's definitely there.
Goat question impossible to answer because car is way more important.
Obv Fernando deserves to be back, he's not as good as he used to be probably, but he's still better than a lot of the grid.
overrated? Idk how people rate him. He's a fine driver, not as good as he used to be, but not like the worst on the grid.
Woman won't compete in F1 within the next 10 years, at least it's incredibly unlikely. The best female drivers right now can't even compete at F3 level, maybe not even Formula Regional. That's a lot of steps away from F1. It will happen eventually, but not as soon as the next 10 years.
I can't believe people have forgotten how M S got his championships. In the mid 90s he was banned for 2 races and Benetton were finded 500k for using illegal Launch control and traction control. He took out Damon Hill and was not punished, he then tried to take out Jacques Villeneuve, this time he had all his points for the year removed. He should not be included in talks about the new world champion Max and 7 time world champion Lewis
About the British biased... I'll just ask anyone to go watch the Estoril GP where Mansel ignored the black flag and caused a crash with Senna and the British commentators where somewhat blaming Senna and supporting Mansel on the case...
On that last one.
Would I like to see a woman in F1? Yes. Do I think it will ever happen? No. And it has nothing to do with grassroots in my opinion. Unfortunately women have a biological disadvantage, so the woman who can compete on the same level as the men in F1 is 100% gonna be the GOAT.
I think a better alternative would be to have W Series elevated from a support series into a sister series to F1 with its own feeder series supporting it.
Like the car question has one answer. The car is 80% the drivier 20% so the car is way more important. You can win the drivers title with average drivers but you cant win the drivers title with average cars. Look at russel, isnt even able to get into q3 most of the time, even though the woman rates him so high (just had a Lucky strategy in belgium qualifying that made it able for him to even start p2).
There have been women in f1 before. Why wouldn't it be possible now? But maybe they should get through f3 and f4 before getting in f1 because that would be just unfair
Lots of reasons women aren't in formula one. As a young girl I wanted to race in F1 but didn't have the money to start. I started at 16. Got 29 podiums and 13 wins in karts. However, money is a massive problem and I won't be able to move up unless I get massive sponsorship.
The problem with female racing drivers is, W series is broken, it’s a stand alone series that you can’t place the level of because you have a massively spread talent pool
I think on sheer pace there surely could be women up there, but to drive a whole f1 race at an f1 driver's standards, idk..
Vettel can't be overrated if everyone thinks he's washed 😂
I don't understand how in the world can you say the car is more important than the driver and calling Hamilton the Goat. That make no sense.
When asking a question about British bias, maybe ask people who are not British 😂. I'm from Singapore and it is massively British biased
how are you gonna BE f1 without a car? RUN TO THHE FINISH LINE?
"and you need a person to drive the caaaaaaaaaaaah"
The "Hamilton is a goat" guy doesnt like to have alonso in f1... anything related to hungary?
Ngl the guy in the red hoodie has some valid points. He knows what hes talking about.
100%
Anyone who calls Sophia Floersch brilliant has no idea what they’re on about.
lets remeber who has 100 race wins alright.
@@yeah377777 7 championships
The lack of respect on Alonso is showing thier British Bias
He's one of the best of all time and no respect
the fastest driver gets the seat. (or the the one with the most money) it would be cool to see a badass bitch just slaying it.
7:22 most overtakes so far this season be like
I have just this to say: all video, british bias 😬 if you guys could do this with fans from all over the world (via zoom or something) the aswers would be more interesting ☺️
I love this channel
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Man said Fernando doesn’t deserve to be in F1 because they did donuts for him
Nearly every disagree argument on every question, is horrible
Ofc there is british bias when you look at the paddock 75% of the people there are british🤣🤣
Funny how its the women who don't think women are good enough to drive in F1
Maybe because they experience firsthand the obstacles women have to face to be considered equal to men.
@@TeamSukiyo yeah what a load of crap. Do you upvote all of your own comments?
All f1 fans, just puts a couple British people up there.
All guys were so scared to go disagree on women question :)
woooow personally i disgree with the two saying Vettel is overated
Would of been nice to have some age range diversity as that’s where opinions really are divided
The guy in the mercedes shirt sounds a lot like super gt
I mean, you can see that they're fans since a few years at max
I totally agree with the British biased media in F1.
Girl with the white top and Jeans is educated
That is because Lando and George are probably the best driver out there
Imagine if F1 twitter was this dignified with its debates 😅😅😅
The Car is More Important Than the Driver: Disagree. They are equally important. You mean to tell me that if Andrea De Cesaris was in a McLaren, he'd be a World Champion? BS.
F1 Media is Inherently British Biased: Somewhat agree. Not that it's a bad thing. A lot of F1 fans are British, and you have got so many British presenters and commentators on the Sky F1, Channel 4 F1 and F1 UA-cam Channel. The only non-British personalities that leap out are Rosberg and Webber. But at the end of the day, what does it matter?
Michael Schumacher is the GOAT: Absolutely Agree. Though Lewis is statistically a better driver, I'd argue being a champion in Michael's time required a bit less technological know-how, and a little more reliance on the driver's skillset.
Fernando Alonso deserves to be back in F1: Somewhat agreed. Who doesn't like Fernando? He's putting in some solid performances with Alpine. Also F1 does need some legends to rely upon for marketing, and to draw in older fans. (i.e: Kimi, Fernando, Sebastian, Lewis)
Sebastian Vettel is overrated: Absolutely not. How can one call Vettel overrated when he's not even the best driver in F1 history. Such a bizarre concept to me.
A woman will compete in F1 in the next 10 years: Probably not. I hate to say no, but as mentioned in the video, the W Series cars are basically F4 spec. And it takes a lot more for the women to earn the relevant superlicense points which isn't really fair to be honest. And honestly "grassroots" is not the answer. How many drivers in recent years have made it to F1 via the grassroots way, and not because they came from money, or had contacts who had money? There are some, sure, but not many.
Women won't survive in F1
Really should have asked some questions about max vs Lewis. I would have grabbed the pop corn immediately assuming they are split
The car is 80%/ the driver 20% in F1. Especially in this hybrid era, it has become more apparant, then ever, but it has in many ways it has allways been like this!
Exepct from the very strange season of 2012, no season in modern times, has ever seen more then three teams been competitive & winning races in the same season.
To put it this way, Mazapin would have been up at the front in the Merc, Hamilton would have been at the back in the Haas.
In 2000 Michael won in the Ferrari, & Massacane drove the Minardi, & Michael would never have won in that Minardi, & Massacane would have been competitive in the Ferrari.
Just as Senna would be at the back in 1990, in the Brabham, instead of winning for McLaren! It"s as simple as that.
Hopefully #NextGen can fix some of that problem, which in many ways is one of the longest facing issues of F1. But let"s face it F1 will never be a Single make championship. If that is your thing, then watch Indycar or F2 ;)
See i’ve only been watching closely on F1 on 2021 but been a fan since I think 2020 or probably before
But I have to say this but Vettel will never become overrated I think his career was just ruined by the 2020 season he went through...
I mean obviously British media and commentators on British channels is biased towards British drivers, but is the general f1 media as a whole biased. Is for example the f1 social media teams biased towards British drivers? I think that’s what’s actually interesting
Wait.. Are they British?
looook at geooorge rusooool
This was a lot more reasonable than expected.
Except when that dude said Vettel is proving criticisms from last season wrong 🤣 He‘s only just about beating Lance Stroll! (points are irrelevant here cause there’s luck involved with that. When comparing actual pace, he‘s barely beaten him over the season)
Leclerc would still slap Vettel up just like last year
These guys are confirming Porsche and audi, despite the fact that there haven’t been any solid rumours
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