Bought the G27 but the company said it was out of stock and since I had already paid they offered me the G29 for the same price. As my first feel I already like it!
As someone who owns both (G27 and Driving Force GT), I want to thank you for pointing out to me what was nagging me all this time! I swear, I was thinking nonstop why does it feel extremely familiar!
so you don't like the steering wheel cuz have to many buttons and don't look realistic, but you drive in socks? how realistic is that? i just want my buttons on the wheel where i can reach them, even if it looks like a airplane dashboard.
Look at the wheels on the actual racing cars lol Especially F1 they got what looks like 20-30 buttons and switches that are every color of the rainbow. If anything the G29 looks more realistic to me but it depend on what car you're driving so I guess it's relative and you can get them brand new for under $250 now. I got mine for $213.99
I think Logitech will be forced to drop the price when this thing doesn't sell. Kind of like the Xbox One had to. There is no justification in a $200 price difference over the G27. They're taking advantage of the uneducated consumer, thinking it's the latest and greatest, but in reality it's the same wheel with $25 more in plastic parts. In the age of the internet, this type of business model no longer works and Logitech should realize that. You can't treat consumers like idiots, because it will eventually backfire with negative results for the company.
One year update: The G29 is $100 cheaper, and the G27 is still overpriced in the used market. It might be reaching the point where the 29 is a better deal, so long as used 27 prices aren't going down.
2 years update: Just got the wheel for 200€, the wheel have been hovering between 200-240€ these last 6 months. The shifter is at 40€, but I think I will go for a second hand th8a.
@@voqzmk2 The shifter works but you cannot use the buttons. I used my g27 shifter for a while till it died and then got the g29 one. Good luck with the new wheel. It`s a blast. :)
So the G29 is miles ahead. More buttons, better feeling wheel while the shifter is better on the G27 because it has more buttons. Not worth the upgrade but good if you are buying a new wheel in 2019 Thanks.
+Inside Sim Racing Nice review guys, hookup the t300rs v logitech g29 please if it isn't too much trouble in the near future, thank you. Ps. Your right. logitech fans are Pi**ed for the most part, I am one of them. I sold my logitech and brought a thrustmaster since 'ripe of tech' think we are all idiots.Which fruitcake at logitech thought this was a good idea... really? I mean...come on, if your going to ripe us off, at least have the decency to tell your LOYAL customers the truth! ... nice one logitech... -_-...
+t8365 I kind of agree. I was so excited to see them finally doing the G29... and then I read about the specs and it just leaves me bewildered and disappointed. Talk about phoning it in... and then to have the unmitigated gall to jack the price through the roof for less gear is just a slap in the face to consumers, like they think we're stupid enough to buy it just because it's a Logitech.
I must say... after let's say a rough year, not bad... just rough... I'm liking the direction ISRTV is going in. In fact, I'm happy to see both ISRTV and The Sim Pit doing well. You're both bringing solid content from unique angles and doing it well. Kudos and keep it up!
Hey guys, really enjoying your shows lately, John is a great addition to ISRTV, and the frequency and quality of the shows (especially the live broadcasts) are excellent. Keep it up !
I have the g29 and shifter for my Play Station VR and let me tell you!! Dirt Rally VR with the G29 + shifter has been one of the most amazing videogame experience I have ever had! Its AMAZING!!
no its far from it ,any logitech wheel is only for a beginner who likes to cheap out on stuff ,if you want the best get something from thrustmaster e.g tx with custom rim or fanatec now thats when you are seriously ontop
Nice review, especially in-depth about settings and features. Am considering getting a racing rig and this vid helped me the most. Thanks for covering the smaller-than-normal-car steering wheel feeling!
G29 has had some serious drops in price in recent months. For a few days before Christmas you could get the wheel, pedals and shifter for £129. £179 today from a quick search.
the clackity noise is due to the helical cut gears forcing the electric motors shaft to go through its end play. the clack occurs when the shaft of the motor hits the end of travel in the end play
+David Scott (DScott5134) Logitechs solution to counter the helical movement on G27 failed; two spring dampened plastic bearings in a hollow plastic casing. *clickclack* www.jlvrh.de/design/G27_13.jpg www.jlvrh.de/design/G27_14.jpg www.jlvrh.de/design/G27_12.jpg
+David Scott (DScott5134) Spot on David. I did some mods to the motors to get rid of this. Very risky, but now it`s perfectly smooth and no noise on curbs. Also got rid of the tiny lag from this...
Great review, you have helped me with my future purchase of a ps4 compatible wheel, I loved my logitech dfgt but always hated the plastic chattering sounds it made. I am definitely getting a thrustmaster t300. Thanks
+dazmoffatt hmm me too (about the dfgt) I'm on Xbox one so i think im going with Thrustmaster TX based on reviews on here. Unless the G920 kills it of course.
+Daniel Mitchell (Punkologist) G920 looks better than g29, but I hope it has better internals mechanism than the g29. Seems to me as though logitech are recycling the older models and relabeling them. I am sure the thrustmaster will not disappointed.
Et D 1000 hours isn't that much. The wheel working after that just shows that it isn't completely crap. I've had my Logitech momo wheel for over a decade and never gad any problems with it xD
Thank you very much for this honest, thorough review. There is no way Logitech will ever get my business with a product such as the G29. Functionality is not even present on current systems. I'm going Thrustmaster T300. Once again, I appreciate the detailed review.
ive owned both and the g920 is quieter smoother less of a deadzone and seems more accurate...i dont get chattering at all like i did on the g27 think we just all forgot how good the 27 has been
I use the G27 since it came out, nothing broke and nothing is worn. I have never had problems with it, but when i tried the G29 it felt like it was fully made out of plastic...
+Hastalavista6 Having a DFGT and planning to play more on PS4 than on PC and PS3. T300 breaks a lot, its technology is too young and not reliable yet...it's a matter of luck. I will wait for GT7 to come out and the G29 to drop in price anyway.
+iosoniosonmanuel I thought the T300 has almost the same mechanism as the T500 which means it isn't quite that young. It also means it should be reliable.
+ianiva It would be if Thrustmaster knew how to do quality control. I bought 2 shitty wheels that died almost instantly. sent them back with angry letters and a fortune cookie inside the wheel base. hopefully they just resell it so some random guy gets it.
for drifting what wheel do you recomend g29 or t300?....i find that g29 have slower countersteer speed than t300 even with the g27, is that true?....can someone help me, i need to find wheel for drifting in ac and pc
+Dazzer J Same! I saw it go down to £184 at Christmas (including shifter) and wanted to get it. Saving up to get it in the summer now, It's £180 (wheel and pedals only) at currys and PCworld, waiting for it to go back down
All this talk about G27 reliability, why is it that it's so common that those wheels eventually loose the ability to keep track of center. There's even a 3rd party replacement part to fix the issue since it's so widespread. The G29 uses a hall effect sensor to replace the old optical sensor, so this issue *should* be resolved now.
OMG time goes by so fast, I was watching the G27 Review a long time ago with your old team Jessica and Sawn, I hope everyone of them are great. When i was First see this Review my hair was Dark , and now are white ..... Good old times Playing GTR 2 and Race 07 with G27 because of this Review. I wish G31 Review will be made by Inside sim racing , again !!!
I've just bought the g29 from littlewoods catalogue l love logitech I've got a g15 gaming keyboard brought way back in 2006 paid £50 still working brilliant and it's logged in to the new g29 software. keyboard is still available to buy£ 44.99
Best show on Sim Racing by a mile! And I agree with your review. I am hoping PS4 racing games in the future will continue to support my Fanatec CSR wheel and pedals.
Hall sensor is used in steering wheel instead of optical sensor. It should be more accurate and much more reliable (more dust resistant since piece of dust in one of holes of encoder disc can ruin calibrating and functionality of the wheel). Optical sensor of G25/27 was always the biggest problem of those wheels.
Hi, im thinking of getting either logitech g29 or thrustmaster t150, both slightly have the same price in my country. Which one is better in terms ffb and overall quality?
But they are right! If you’re new to SimRacing, buy a good old G27 and it’ll be great for the price! But if you want a 400$ wheel thrustmaster offers better options
Whats the diff?? As a hobbyist you prob make less money and not being paid to do it. Every dollar we spend is important. Especially re sale value. I want the best for my cash. These wheels are butal for noise etc. I even did a bearing backlash mod sound proofing etc. Thing would piss my ol lady off still. Which dont blame her, who wants to listen to smashing plastic for hours??
Hey guys, I fanboyed a bit and went ahead and bought the G29 although you guys advised me to get the T300RS or the T500. So far the G29 is great, I haven't quite used it on my PS3 and I don't own a PS4. I did however used it on my MacBook and played the Scania Truck Sim and atm downloading F1 2013 as it's the latest one available on my Mac. Will see how it does! Great review btw!
+Ariff Embleton A shame, because the T300RS is really a much better wheel. Anyway ,glad you are happy with your wheel. Keep in mind though, being a fanboy of anything only clouds your better judgement, it literally serves no purpose :)
I just recently bought a g29 and I have zero regrets. If you want to get into sim racing and you don't have stupid cash this is the perfect option. Imo if you spend over $400 on a steering wheel, you are either rich, or you you just don't know how to properly invest your money. I would rather just buy an ACTUAL used car with those $500-2000+. The wheel in that used car wouldn't actually feel real it would be real.. lol
@The Placebo Effect so if you have a sim racing hobby that makes you bad with money? Speak for yourself. lots of us have jobs that allow us to pay rent, bills, have a nice car, and plenty of money for entertainment. are you a young teen or something?
Being someone with a job is flexing? He comes to a sim racing channel to complain and tries to sound superior because some people like to spend money on things they enjoy that offer them 1000's of hours of entertainment. You dont need to be "rich" or "bad with money". his comment was extremely ignorant
I will probably get the G29 to replace my old Thrustmaster Ferrari Experience, I even tried it at the EGX in London and it felt 100x nicer than my thrustmaster.
hey can anyone give me some suggestions, i'm thinking of getting either g27 or g29 and i currently own a thrustmaster ferrari italia 458 which costs 70 pounds and have no shifter, no clutch pedal nor FFB and i'm looking for a second hand (yet near new condition) g27 or g29, and price isn't an issue as the second hand g27 is around 100 to 120 pounds while the g29 is 180. so which one should i get?
What platform do you play on? If you're on PC the G27 is a very good wheel, but the G27 doesn't work with the PS4 so if you're on PS4 you have to get the G29 :)
+Tom Duffield For PC, stay away from Logitech. Better options out there for the same price range. Piece your kit together. Get a wheel base, wheel rim, pedals, and shifter separately. That way you can get decent stuff, and not just left over crap that they threw in the box. you can get the Thrustmaster TX wheel base by itself. Then get one of the upgraded wheel rims. The good thing is, you can get a nice set of pedals, like say the Fanatec Clubsport V3s. Spend a little bit more and get proper kit. You won't remember how much you paid in 6 months, but you will know that you are using the better equipment.
The need to have more buttons on a wheel is not really anything to consider, g27 has 4 buttons less overall than g29 i cannot even imagine why you would need more buttons on a wheel for... So basically all Logitech is doing with this is selling drivers that will work with PS4 selling literally the same wheel again as something new.
Why would anyone choose a g29 over a thrustmaster t300rs for the same price point of $399 that's just crazy. i was really excited for this wheel until I found out its almost the same wheel as a g27
Because thrustmaster are fragile pieces of garbage. Bought a T 300 months ago was he used only one day a week and the feedback disappears within 5 minutes. Buy a nice wheel that always needs fixing or you could just buy a decent wheel you can use all the time
In México the G29 is being sold around 235 to 240 usd and I really don't know why this price but that's why I bought this one, I think for that price it's a pretty cool wheel
+Daniel Pámanes What ever the reason may be. It's good enough to get it. I took that offer. F it! always wanted a G27 and love my DFGT, Which has run strong for almost 5 years. So the hybrid G27 it is!
How does the G27's strength compare to the G29s? The G29 seems to be a significant amount stronger from looking at the way it throws you around in the video as compared to the G27 just lightly tugging your arms every now and then. Is this the case? My G25 never forces me like the G29 in this video, in fact I'm wondering if there's something wrong with it as it's just kind of weight and a little tug here and there in Assetto Corsa and iRacing. Reply would be greatly appreciated, good work John and Darin!
I hope the G29 will have really low sales so logitech will understand that its not ok to screw their customers over like that. the G25 and G27 could have worked fine on PS4 if they wanted it to but of course they would rather try to make everyone basically buy the same wheel again just to play on a new console. I am definately not doing it
Great fair and unbiased review. From past reviews I thought Thrustmaster was paying you guys. But I felt like you did an honest video review of the Logitech G29 highlighting both strengths and weaknesses. I agree it is overpriced. At least the shifter should be included for the $400 price. Great review and can't wait to see what you think of the G920 on Forza 6.
I’ve just ordered a G29 with a shifter for £204 ($307) and I think it'll be pretty good. It’s basically like a slightly upgraded DFGT and that’s fine with me because I’ve had a DFGT since 2008 and it has taken a battering pretty much every day since, and when I say it took a battering I mean it literally took a battering when I got pissed off. Although the force feedback is pretty weak now, amazingly it still works fine, it has been a brilliant wheel.
just got me a g27 on amazon for $173.00 and all I can say is that I hope there is a setup for split second on PC other than that I love this damn thing.
Great review. Been with Logitech for years cuz they used to have great compatibility, but haven't been in the wheel scene in the last 4 years or more, so if I want something else that'll be compatible with ps4, what would be a good wheel to get that is on par with features/specs and performance of the G29, of another brand that you'd recommend?? Any input is greatly appreciated.
+Inside Sim Racing in that comparison I'd really like to hear about the apparent reliability issue with Thrustmaster wheel bases. I'm in Australia and the price comparison once you add th8a and T3pa to say a TX $920aus vs getting the Logitech G920 with shifter $580aus has me looking more to Logitech as bang for my buck combined with durability... So please give comment on reliability/durability issues of thrustmaster as many forums have many ppl who have had to replace their wheel at least once.
+Ragin Tortoise I had a failed tx back at launch and have recently repurchased one ready for forza 6 with the th8a shifter and t3pa pedals and highly recommend it vs the g27.. It's also a nicer wheel compared to my t500 rs on my pc rig. Try "The Gamesmen" if you have one nearby as they seem to keep a lot of stock so your safe if you have any dramas..
+Ragin Tortoise I had an issue with my t300rs , everything worked fine but I was getting a buzzing sound 5-10 mins into gameplay after I unplugged it a few times it would be ok again .phoned thrustmaster 4 weeks ago and am still waiting on them to pick it up . getting fed up waiting for thrustmaster to pull their finger out , I contacted Amazon who sent me a knew one ( no questions) which came 1 day after the phone call .thrustmaster said it would take 5 weeks minimum to return the wheel , which is crap as I race for a crew.I haven't used the g29 nor am I likely to. the thrustmaster has way better guts and is a perfect companion for project cars .I have noticed that my new pedals seem weird as the gas is stiffer and break seems lighter .I will mod the break with a spring at some point
Just got the G29 for $240 on Amazon. I know it's got it's issues but it's my first wheel and I didn't want to spend $380 on the t300rs. Mainly preparing for GT Sport so until then I'll give Project Cars and Dirt Rally a try. Casual sim car racer for now.. maybe go hardcore eventually if I get the thirst.
I have this wheel for 10 months now and I really wish that I bought the T300 instead. It has too many issues like it randomly disconnects while playing and the right paddle takes a few clicks to work. I tried to send it back to logitech but they told me that they don't ship to FPO/APO address so they can't send me a replacement. So I highly suggest to stay away from this wheel if you don't want any headaches.
I have a g27 and DFGT, i'm going to buy the thrustmaster t150 next week when it comes out. I wouldn't dare buy this G29. Logitech must have lost their minds. I have been using logitech wheels since the wingman back in early 2000's. The g29 is just an absolute slap in the face. The only console racer I play is GT5, as well as 6. The PC, I like GTR, GTR2, Race 07, Pcars, Assetto corsa. The G27 does very well in those games. Plus I can use the TH8a shifter with the g27.
Since the 27 is hella outdated and there aren't any for sale in the state of Michigan I went with the 29 for Assetto Corsa on my PC and CARS on my PS4. Only snag was having to do some security and driver updates for windows 7 to make it work. P.S. AC now has support for the g920 and g29.
*In Norway we have a rule to always have the left foot on the clutch and right foot is used to gas and brake. I don't know if you have it in other country's*
Question... I plan on buying a G29 to use one PS3 games, will I be able to adjust degrees of rotation on a console game? I would really appreciate a response, thanks and have a good day.
Why would anyone buy this over a t300rs and the t3pa pedal set is beyond me. Im glad you touched on how it seems they have stiffed the community with the ps4 compatibility and for that reason alone I wouldnt buy a G29 on principal
Why does people think you can feel everything in a steering well? They say a steeringwheel judder under ABS. Not in my cars, Its the brake pedal that judders.
I know this video is old but would you recommend the g29 or the t150 pro as a first sim wheel. they're very similarly priced on amazon right now and i can't decide i've seen a lot of biased opinions but very few of people who have had both.
even tho i got a G29, even tho you guys are fanatec and thrustmaster fanboys, i have to tell you you did a decent review. i expected more from the G29. But for the price of 299.99e for the wheel and shifter inblack friday, i'm happy. For me the wheel isn't worth more than 300$ like you mentioned. Gave a thumbs up, you guys were honest and I saw John's disappointment coming from a G27.
Hey All, Looking at buying a G29 with the shifter for PC. I have project cars already, but would be keen on Dirt Rally as well. Does the clutch still not work in Dirt or has codemasters/logitech patched that?
So, the G29 and the TH8A is $670 here in Australia, and the T300 with the T3PA and TH8A is near $1k. Would the G29 be justifiable as an upgrade to the DFGT? Would get a G27, but it's not PS4 compatible, which I would like, come Gran Turismo Sport.
I don't think changing to belt driven is a great choice, there are plenty of belt driven wheels on the market, I bought a Fanatec gt3rs and hated it and lost a ton of cash getting rid of it too. I'm used to driving the Logitech GT wheel and love the feeling of the gears and I've owned it for over 3 years, still going strong. I'm glad the G29 is a step up on the g27 since I've always wanted one. Thanks for the review as it basically points out the g29 is a great wheel. I hope that in the future it is compatible with GT7 and I'll be happy with that.
I was checking out Project Cars on pc last night, and found there was a setting for brake sensitivity. I was using my T500, but it was something I had not seen before. There are a few pages of setup in there. Not sure it will be the same for G29, but worth a look.
Bought the G27 but the company said it was out of stock and since I had already paid they offered me the G29 for the same price. As my first feel I already like it!
+Nemaides pedals are included by default. And I got the shifter for free with it :D
+Rainbowstunting You sir is the most luckiest guy I have ever seen in my life.
+Sezer Çelik are, not is
hahahah how great congrats man :)
Wow you got lucky lol
g29 just looks like a g27 made love with a driving force gt and made the best of both....
Lol so true
As someone who owns both (G27 and Driving Force GT), I want to thank you for pointing out to me what was nagging me all this time!
I swear, I was thinking nonstop why does it feel extremely familiar!
That's the best way to describe it. It's a dfgt but with metal steering and g27 internals with a rubber piece in the brakes.
Plzzz tell me how to gt force driving connect Android and Xbox 360 tell me can i connect Xbox 360
@@kdramalover-vg4fv you cant sadly its only for playstation
so you don't like the steering wheel cuz have to many buttons and don't look realistic, but you drive in socks? how realistic is that? i just want my buttons on the wheel where i can reach them, even if it looks like a airplane dashboard.
Look at the wheels on the actual racing cars lol Especially F1 they got what looks like 20-30 buttons and switches that are every color of the rainbow. If anything the G29 looks more realistic to me but it depend on what car you're driving so I guess it's relative and you can get them brand new for under $250 now. I got mine for $213.99
@@lanceseaman88 they are really cheap now
Ik this is an old comment but cars nowadays have loads of buttons anyway, its called technology! 😂
its called a cockpit
it's funny how u said aeroplane dashboard
great explanation hehe
and btw u have a point i want buttons in easy reach
I think Logitech will be forced to drop the price when this thing doesn't sell. Kind of like the Xbox One had to. There is no justification in a $200 price difference over the G27. They're taking advantage of the uneducated consumer, thinking it's the latest and greatest, but in reality it's the same wheel with $25 more in plastic parts.
In the age of the internet, this type of business model no longer works and Logitech should realize that. You can't treat consumers like idiots, because it will eventually backfire with negative results for the company.
One year update: The G29 is $100 cheaper, and the G27 is still overpriced in the used market. It might be reaching the point where the 29 is a better deal, so long as used 27 prices aren't going down.
George Rosebush the wheel with the pedals is $200 today on Amazon + the shifter is like 58 bucks so yours getting it for around $270.00
Yeah it's super cheap right now ;)
2 years update: Just got the wheel for 200€, the wheel have been hovering between 200-240€ these last 6 months. The shifter is at 40€, but I think I will go for a second hand th8a.
Yup I just got a new one for $200 USD
So its a G27 V2.
Thats Logitechs fault for making such a good wheel, you cant improve on it unless you go belt driven.
Thats the thing tho, the g29 is more than the price of a belt driven wheel, the t300rs or tx
Logitech are trying to fool people because the G27 has a good name. I have a G27 btw. T300 after i get the oculus
@@Xbot4Life T300 is good until it breaks after a few months.
Had a G27 for 4 years. Just picked up the G29 for $199. Can't complain.
Hey, is it any better than the G27? I want to upgrade, because my G27 feels like its going to break any time.
@@voqzmk2 I've had my G29 for 4 years. Hope you get the same milage.
@@talon1706 Going to get the G29 soon, I can use the G27 Shifter, right?
@@voqzmk2 The shifter works but you cannot use the buttons. I used my g27 shifter for a while till it died and then got the g29 one.
Good luck with the new wheel. It`s a blast. :)
@@talon1706 Alright, thanks for the quick answer!
dunno why but the g27 looks more like a toy to me.
Mi Nero Same.
Mi Nero Maybe it's the wheel size. I'm looking to get a good wheel + adapter on it after all
Yeah. And it's because of those triangle shaped red small buttons. While the G29 has proper buttons.
Same, the D shape, top mark & on wheel buttons are all features on high end sports car wheels.
G27 a standart wheel, while a wheel with shit ton of buttons is not a toy... ok
So the G29 is miles ahead. More buttons, better feeling wheel while the shifter is better on the G27 because it has more buttons. Not worth the upgrade but good if you are buying a new wheel in 2019 Thanks.
I must say, this channel's back on top again. Keep it up guys.
+5 Red Lights Thanks and we'll do our best !
+Inside Sim Racing
Nice review guys, hookup the t300rs v logitech g29 please if it isn't too much trouble in the near future, thank you.
Ps. Your right. logitech fans are Pi**ed for the most part, I am one of them. I sold my logitech and brought a thrustmaster since 'ripe of tech' think we are all idiots.Which fruitcake at logitech thought this was a good idea... really? I mean...come on, if your going to ripe us off, at least have the decency to tell your LOYAL customers the truth! ... nice one logitech... -_-...
+Inside Sim Racing when people drive autos with two feet...
+t8365 I kind of agree. I was so excited to see them finally doing the G29... and then I read about the specs and it just leaves me bewildered and disappointed. Talk about phoning it in... and then to have the unmitigated gall to jack the price through the roof for less gear is just a slap in the face to consumers, like they think we're stupid enough to buy it just because it's a Logitech.
And now it's down again... So sad.
I must say... after let's say a rough year, not bad... just rough... I'm liking the direction ISRTV is going in. In fact, I'm happy to see both ISRTV and The Sim Pit doing well. You're both bringing solid content from unique angles and doing it well. Kudos and keep it up!
+Daniel Vining Thanks !
10:46 sounds like popcorn going off.
Hey guys, really enjoying your shows lately, John is a great addition to ISRTV, and the frequency and quality of the shows (especially the live broadcasts) are excellent. Keep it up !
+samtrex600 Thanks for the compliment !
I have the g29 and shifter for my Play Station VR and let me tell you!! Dirt Rally VR with the G29 + shifter has been one of the most amazing videogame experience I have ever had! Its AMAZING!!
G29 + a custom wheel is best!
no its far from it ,any logitech wheel is only for a beginner who likes to cheap out on stuff ,if you want the best get something from thrustmaster e.g tx with custom rim or fanatec now thats when you are seriously ontop
Most of us don’t have 1,000s of dollars to spend on video games
amstudio I just bought the g29 and shifter
Do you like it ? I'm waiting for mine to be delivered :)
The cost of a g29 plus custom wheel would cost same as a belt driven superior wheel
Nice review, especially in-depth about settings and features. Am considering getting a racing rig and this vid helped me the most. Thanks for covering the smaller-than-normal-car steering wheel feeling!
G29 has had some serious drops in price in recent months. For a few days before Christmas you could get the wheel, pedals and shifter for £129. £179 today from a quick search.
Just got the G29 brand new with the shifter too for £129 in the UK, in prep for GT Sport, absolute steal and can still play gt6 with it!
EveryMan Damn thats a good deal. I bought a G920 for €110(without a shifter)
the clackity noise is due to the helical cut gears forcing the electric motors shaft to go through its end play. the clack occurs when the shaft of the motor hits the end of travel in the end play
+David Scott (DScott5134) Logitechs solution to counter the helical movement on G27 failed; two spring dampened plastic bearings in a hollow plastic casing. *clickclack*
www.jlvrh.de/design/G27_13.jpg
www.jlvrh.de/design/G27_14.jpg
www.jlvrh.de/design/G27_12.jpg
+David Scott (DScott5134) Spot on David. I did some mods to the motors to get rid of this. Very risky, but now it`s perfectly smooth and no noise on curbs. Also got rid of the tiny lag from this...
i have to make this decision soon for the PC. As long as Race 07 works and F199-02 works im happy.
Amazon has the G29 for $286 right now, but I'm leaning towards the new Thrustmaster T150 for $199.
199$ for 150 isnt a bad deal
I upgraded to the G29 from the G25 & I'm very pleased with it.
I loved my G25 but I find the 29 much better.
I have a Logitech Momo for 9 years.It still works!
Mihai Alexandru Cazacu is it possible for it to work with ps4
as a G25 user im tempted to upgrade to G27 to enable play on my PS3, PS4 and PC. but will wait for price drops. Thanks for the quality review.
Great review, you have helped me with my future purchase of a ps4 compatible wheel, I loved my logitech dfgt but always hated the plastic chattering sounds it made. I am definitely getting a thrustmaster t300. Thanks
+dazmoffatt Thanks for watching !
+dazmoffatt hmm me too (about the dfgt) I'm on Xbox one so i think im going with Thrustmaster TX based on reviews on here. Unless the G920 kills it of course.
+Daniel Mitchell (Punkologist)
G920 looks better than g29, but I hope it has better internals mechanism than the g29. Seems to me as though logitech are recycling the older models and relabeling them. I am sure the thrustmaster will not disappointed.
+dazmoffatt
disappoint
+dazmoffatt The G29 and G920 are identical products made for two platforms: G29 for PS4/PC and G920 for XB One. The internals are exactly the same.
Fantastic comparison. We appreciate the considerable time your work , watching from Brazil . Keep up the excellent work.
So, here's how to justify buying a g29:
-You don't
+BrokenGames|Road to 300! Here's how to justify buying a G29, better brake pedal, better panel shifters and better/more buttons. Also shift lights.
+Loftty OG You mean... Everything the g27 had?
Well, currently in Australia, the G27 is $300 and the G29 is $329. I think I'll get the latter..
speedy_3014 I was looking at G27 for $350 and G29 for $400. Where are you seeing these prices?
+speedy_3014 G27, < $200.
G29, $400
That was a funny joke you made there.
I have the G25 since it came out long ago, played over 1000 hours on it, and it's still work like new, very sturdy stuff.
Et D 1000 hours isn't that much. The wheel working after that just shows that it isn't completely crap. I've had my Logitech momo wheel for over a decade and never gad any problems with it xD
Got my G27 new in 2010 on sale for $270. It still works great aside from 1 sticky button and searing heat after a few hours lol.
The g29 was and still is my first wheel. I love it does the job for me and i would reccomend it as a decent starter wheel.
I wonder if you still have the same opinion after all these years.
Just bought one of these with the shifter for $280. Defiantly happy. GREAT wheel for this price. I would not have bought it for 460$
I've been waiting for this, thank you.
the g29 is supposed to have some kind of anti backlash tech built in to make it feel smoother than past wheels
Thank you very much for this honest, thorough review. There is no way Logitech will ever get my business with a product such as the G29. Functionality is not even present on current systems. I'm going Thrustmaster T300. Once again, I appreciate the detailed review.
ive owned both and the g920 is quieter smoother less of a deadzone and seems more accurate...i dont get chattering at all like i did on the g27
think we just all forgot how good the 27 has been
I use the G27 since it came out, nothing broke and nothing is worn. I have never had problems with it, but when i tried the G29 it felt like it was fully made out of plastic...
Reasons to buy a g29:
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+Hastalavista6 Having a DFGT and planning to play more on PS4 than on PC and PS3. T300 breaks a lot, its technology is too young and not reliable yet...it's a matter of luck. I will wait for GT7 to come out and the G29 to drop in price anyway.
+iosoniosonmanuel I thought the T300 has almost the same mechanism as the T500 which means it isn't quite that young. It also means it should be reliable.
ianiva t500 doesn't have a brushless motor
+Hastalavista6 Make Logitechs bank account larger
+ianiva It would be if Thrustmaster knew how to do quality control. I bought 2 shitty wheels that died almost instantly. sent them back with angry letters and a fortune cookie inside the wheel base. hopefully they just resell it so some random guy gets it.
Im gonna buy the G27
I already did. Works great.
+Antics FFS its a very nice unit, you won't be disappointed
don't, the g29 has the best pedals
just mod the 27's pedals,
KILLER IMP +1 gt eye spring is cheap and works great.
I'm a big fan of your channel, John is a good guy eighter, thanks a lot for all your content, i like it a lot !
for drifting what wheel do you recomend g29 or t300?....i find that g29 have slower countersteer speed than t300 even with the g27, is that true?....can someone help me, i need to find wheel for drifting in ac and pc
Well, the t300 is way smoother since its belt driven, buit the g29-27 is the volvo of stearing wheels.
This are going for pretty cheap in the UK; £160. Worth getting one as a first wheel? T300RS is £220 by comparison.
It was at Currys. Not sure if they're still on sale.
+Kael Did you buy the G29?
AadilF1 I did. It's pretty good!
+Dazzer J Same! I saw it go down to £184 at Christmas (including shifter) and wanted to get it. Saving up to get it in the summer now, It's £180 (wheel and pedals only) at currys and PCworld, waiting for it to go back down
+Kael Saving up for one myself now :)
Thanks guys, keep up the good coverage of this great passion/hobby of ours.
Go technical guys, I love it ! Well done !
All this talk about G27 reliability, why is it that it's so common that those wheels eventually loose the ability to keep track of center. There's even a 3rd party replacement part to fix the issue since it's so widespread. The G29 uses a hall effect sensor to replace the old optical sensor, so this issue *should* be resolved now.
NightRush I just glued it with a little washer and it's better than new!! The heat that motors produce break that plastic sensor.
OMG time goes by so fast, I was watching the G27 Review a long time ago with your old team Jessica and Sawn, I hope everyone of them are great. When i was First see this Review my hair was Dark , and now are white ..... Good old times Playing GTR 2 and Race 07 with G27 because of this Review. I wish G31 Review will be made by Inside sim racing , again !!!
Lol
I've just bought the g29 from littlewoods catalogue l love logitech I've got a g15 gaming keyboard brought way back in 2006 paid £50 still working brilliant and it's logged in to the new g29 software. keyboard is still available to buy£ 44.99
Finally a review that doesn't sound paid. I saw so many where they hyped the wheel to no end even though its not that big of a upgrade
Best show on Sim Racing by a mile! And I agree with your review. I am hoping PS4 racing games in the future will continue to support my Fanatec CSR wheel and pedals.
+Jeremiah P Thanks for the compliment !
Hall sensor is used in steering wheel instead of optical sensor. It should be more accurate and much more reliable (more dust resistant since piece of dust in one of holes of encoder disc can ruin calibrating and functionality of the wheel). Optical sensor of G25/27 was always the biggest problem of those wheels.
Hi, im thinking of getting either logitech g29 or thrustmaster t150, both slightly have the same price in my country. Which one is better in terms ffb and overall quality?
all of your reviews are very harsh. Most people are looking at your videos as a Hobbyist/consumer, not a professional.
But they are right! If you’re new to SimRacing, buy a good old G27 and it’ll be great for the price! But if you want a 400$ wheel thrustmaster offers better options
They should be harsh considering the price compared to the g27
well i mean the channel is called 'Inside Sim Racing'
Whats the diff?? As a hobbyist you prob make less money and not being paid to do it. Every dollar we spend is important. Especially re sale value. I want the best for my cash. These wheels are butal for noise etc. I even did a bearing backlash mod sound proofing etc. Thing would piss my ol lady off still. Which dont blame her, who wants to listen to smashing plastic for hours??
I always loved harsher reviews, everyone seems to give way to much leeway, and this was one of the best reviews I ever Saw.
Hey guys, I fanboyed a bit and went ahead and bought the G29 although you guys advised me to get the T300RS or the T500. So far the G29 is great, I haven't quite used it on my PS3 and I don't own a PS4. I did however used it on my MacBook and played the Scania Truck Sim and atm downloading F1 2013 as it's the latest one available on my Mac. Will see how it does! Great review btw!
+Ariff Embleton A shame, because the T300RS is really a much better wheel.
Anyway ,glad you are happy with your wheel. Keep in mind though, being a fanboy of anything only clouds your better judgement, it literally serves no purpose :)
I just recently bought a g29 and I have zero regrets. If you want to get into sim racing and you don't have stupid cash this is the perfect option. Imo if you spend over $400 on a steering wheel, you are either rich, or you you just don't know how to properly invest your money. I would rather just buy an ACTUAL used car with those $500-2000+. The wheel in that used car wouldn't actually feel real it would be real.. lol
@The Placebo Effect so if you have a sim racing hobby that makes you bad with money? Speak for yourself. lots of us have jobs that allow us to pay rent, bills, have a nice car, and plenty of money for entertainment. are you a young teen or something?
Being someone with a job is flexing? He comes to a sim racing channel to complain and tries to sound superior because some people like to spend money on things they enjoy that offer them 1000's of hours of entertainment. You dont need to be "rich" or "bad with money". his comment was extremely ignorant
logitech are taking the piss right?
I will probably get the G29 to replace my old Thrustmaster Ferrari Experience, I even tried it at the EGX in London and it felt 100x nicer than my thrustmaster.
hey can anyone give me some suggestions, i'm thinking of getting either g27 or g29 and i currently own a thrustmaster ferrari italia 458 which costs 70 pounds and have no shifter, no clutch pedal nor FFB and i'm looking for a second hand (yet near new condition) g27 or g29, and price isn't an issue as the second hand g27 is around 100 to 120 pounds while the g29 is 180. so which one should i get?
What platform do you play on? If you're on PC the G27 is a very good wheel, but the G27 doesn't work with the PS4 so if you're on PS4 you have to get the G29 :)
+SN13K3R im on pc looking to get one to play truck sims and racing games so a bit of everything, which would you suggest?
+Tom Duffield For PC, stay away from Logitech. Better options out there for the same price range. Piece your kit together. Get a wheel base, wheel rim, pedals, and shifter separately. That way you can get decent stuff, and not just left over crap that they threw in the box.
you can get the Thrustmaster TX wheel base by itself. Then get one of the upgraded wheel rims. The good thing is, you can get a nice set of pedals, like say the Fanatec Clubsport V3s. Spend a little bit more and get proper kit. You won't remember how much you paid in 6 months, but you will know that you are using the better equipment.
You guys effed something up with the F1 2015 review AT THE VERY LEAST. Since the rpm lights do work.
The need to have more buttons on a wheel is not really anything to consider, g27 has 4 buttons less overall than g29 i cannot even imagine why you would need more buttons on a wheel for... So basically all Logitech is doing with this is selling drivers that will work with PS4 selling literally the same wheel again as something new.
ABS has never shaken my wheel....
Getting mine in December can't wait 🙌🙌😁😁
I like your reviews, well detailed, great points, thank you so much !!!
Why would anyone choose a g29 over a thrustmaster t300rs for the same price point of $399 that's just crazy. i was really excited for this wheel until I found out its almost the same wheel as a g27
Edgar Gomez
I will tell u why, So many people in our group are in their second and third t300 - the g29 is made to take abuse and last
rictor133 because it's like 2/3s less powerful lol. It shouldn't break being that weak.
Because thrustmaster are fragile pieces of garbage. Bought a T 300 months ago was he used only one day a week and the feedback disappears within 5 minutes. Buy a nice wheel that always needs fixing or you could just buy a decent wheel you can use all the time
Edgar Gomez 1 word: Reliability.
In México the G29 is being sold around 235 to 240 usd and I really don't know why this price but that's why I bought this one, I think for that price it's a pretty cool wheel
+Daniel Pámanes that's a good deal!
+Daniel Pámanes What ever the reason may be. It's good enough to get it. I took that offer. F it! always wanted a G27 and love my DFGT, Which has run strong for almost 5 years.
So the hybrid G27 it is!
How does the G27's strength compare to the G29s? The G29 seems to be a significant amount stronger from looking at the way it throws you around in the video as compared to the G27 just lightly tugging your arms every now and then. Is this the case? My G25 never forces me like the G29 in this video, in fact I'm wondering if there's something wrong with it as it's just kind of weight and a little tug here and there in Assetto Corsa and iRacing. Reply would be greatly appreciated, good work John and Darin!
+SimRacingAU G29 / G920 have the same ffb strength as the G27.
+Inside Sim Racing Alright, thanks for clarifying, been wondering for a little while! Thanks :)
I hope the G29 will have really low sales so logitech will understand that its not ok to screw their customers over like that. the G25 and G27 could have worked fine on PS4 if they wanted it to but of course they would rather try to make everyone basically buy the same wheel again just to play on a new console. I am definately not doing it
me either I'm buying Thrustmaster TX for my Xbox one sold the G27.
+Rammstone True that!
It does work on the ps4...
You just need to flip the (quite hard to see) button above the rev lights.
Great fair and unbiased review. From past reviews I thought Thrustmaster was paying you guys. But I felt like you did an honest video review of the Logitech G29 highlighting both strengths and weaknesses. I agree it is overpriced. At least the shifter should be included for the $400 price. Great review and can't wait to see what you think of the G920 on Forza 6.
+dustinr16 We talk about pros and cons of Thrustmaster products too.. For instance the plastic wheel and not so great pedals on the TX.
I’ve just ordered a G29 with a shifter for £204 ($307) and I think it'll be pretty good. It’s basically like a slightly upgraded DFGT and that’s fine with me because I’ve had a DFGT since 2008 and it has taken a battering pretty much every day since, and when I say it took a battering I mean it literally took a battering when I got pissed off. Although the force feedback is pretty weak now, amazingly it still works fine, it has been a brilliant wheel.
Just got the g27 for 145,00€ with 14 month warranty left. I`m actually convinced that this was a pretty good deal, am I wrong maybe?
just got me a g27 on amazon for $173.00 and all I can say is that I hope there is a setup for split second on PC other than that I love this damn thing.
Great review. Been with Logitech for years cuz they used to have great compatibility, but haven't been in the wheel scene in the last 4 years or more, so if I want something else that'll be compatible with ps4, what would be a good wheel to get that is on par with features/specs and performance of the G29, of another brand that you'd recommend?? Any input is greatly appreciated.
will you guys make a comparing video of g29 and t300rs ? I will play only on ps4 and really want your thoughts on this. thank you.
t300rs blows this out of the water really not much to compare imo
+jao318 Yes, in September we plan on it
+Inside Sim Racing in that comparison I'd really like to hear about the apparent reliability issue with Thrustmaster wheel bases.
I'm in Australia and the price comparison once you add th8a and T3pa to say a TX $920aus vs getting the Logitech G920 with shifter $580aus has me looking more to Logitech as bang for my buck combined with durability...
So please give comment on reliability/durability issues of thrustmaster as many forums have many ppl who have had to replace their wheel at least once.
+Ragin Tortoise I had a failed tx back at launch and have recently repurchased one ready for forza 6 with the th8a shifter and t3pa pedals and highly recommend it vs the g27.. It's also a nicer wheel compared to my t500 rs on my pc rig. Try "The Gamesmen" if you have one nearby as they seem to keep a lot of stock so your safe if you have any dramas..
+Ragin Tortoise I had an issue with my t300rs , everything worked fine but I was getting a buzzing sound 5-10 mins into gameplay after I unplugged it a few times it would be ok again .phoned thrustmaster 4 weeks ago and am still waiting on them to pick it up . getting fed up waiting for thrustmaster to pull their finger out , I contacted Amazon who sent me a knew one ( no questions) which came 1 day after the phone call .thrustmaster said it would take 5 weeks minimum to return the wheel , which is crap as I race for a crew.I haven't used the g29 nor am I likely to. the thrustmaster has way better guts and is a perfect companion for project cars .I have noticed that my new pedals seem weird as the gas is stiffer and break seems lighter .I will mod the break with a spring at some point
Does the G29 work with GTR2, Race 07 or F1 challenge?
Just got the G29 for $240 on Amazon. I know it's got it's issues but it's my first wheel and I didn't want to spend $380 on the t300rs. Mainly preparing for GT Sport so until then I'll give Project Cars and Dirt Rally a try. Casual sim car racer for now.. maybe go hardcore eventually if I get the thirst.
Thank goodness for Black Friday sales, managed to pick this up for $200+$39.99 shifter.
ThatOneGuy in egypt it was really expensive on black Friday
I have this wheel for 10 months now and I really wish that I bought the T300 instead. It has too many issues like it randomly disconnects while playing and the right paddle takes a few clicks to work. I tried to send it back to logitech but they told me that they don't ship to FPO/APO address so they can't send me a replacement. So I highly suggest to stay away from this wheel if you don't want any headaches.
Looking to get my first wheel - G29 is only £185 on Amazon. Seen lots of good and bad reviews about it, but at such a discount is it a good buy?
I have a g27 and DFGT, i'm going to buy the thrustmaster t150 next week when it comes out. I wouldn't dare buy this G29. Logitech must have lost their minds. I have been using logitech wheels since the wingman back in early 2000's. The g29 is just an absolute slap in the face. The only console racer I play is GT5, as well as 6. The PC, I like GTR, GTR2, Race 07, Pcars, Assetto corsa. The G27 does very well in those games. Plus I can use the TH8a shifter with the g27.
Since the 27 is hella outdated and there aren't any for sale in the state of Michigan I went with the 29 for Assetto Corsa on my PC and CARS on my PS4.
Only snag was having to do some security and driver updates for windows 7 to make it work.
P.S. AC now has support for the g920 and g29.
*In Norway we have a rule to always have the left foot on the clutch and right foot is used to gas and brake. I don't know if you have it in other country's*
Racing is different especially if your not using the clutch.
@@martin4458 ok
Question... I plan on buying a G29 to use one PS3 games, will I be able to adjust degrees of rotation on a console game? I would really appreciate a response, thanks and have a good day.
Why would anyone buy this over a t300rs and the t3pa pedal set is beyond me. Im glad you touched on how it seems they have stiffed the community with the ps4 compatibility and for that reason alone I wouldnt buy a G29 on principal
Nice review, very thorough.
Why does people think you can feel everything in a steering well? They say a steeringwheel judder under ABS. Not in my cars, Its the brake pedal that judders.
I know this video is old but would you recommend the g29 or the t150 pro as a first sim wheel. they're very similarly priced on amazon right now and i can't decide i've seen a lot of biased opinions but very few of people who have had both.
Does the wheel vibrates or do something to make you feel like you are driving a real vehicle?
it gives you real whiplash as well
those gear noise in FFB was for me is reason why im away from logitech yes even i have t150 it has noise but not as noisy as 29
Hi, G29 + G27 shifter...will it work on PS3? Gran Turismo, Dirty 3, F1, WRC
even tho i got a G29, even tho you guys are fanatec and thrustmaster fanboys, i have to tell you you did a decent review. i expected more from the G29. But for the price of 299.99e for the wheel and shifter inblack friday, i'm happy.
For me the wheel isn't worth more than 300$ like you mentioned.
Gave a thumbs up, you guys were honest and I saw John's disappointment coming from a G27.
Hey All, Looking at buying a G29 with the shifter for PC. I have project cars already, but would be keen on Dirt Rally as well. Does the clutch still not work in Dirt or has codemasters/logitech patched that?
I have an opportunity to buy the G29 for about 230 dollars. Is it worth the money?
So, the G29 and the TH8A is $670 here in Australia, and the T300 with the T3PA and TH8A is near $1k. Would the G29 be justifiable as an upgrade to the DFGT? Would get a G27, but it's not PS4 compatible, which I would like, come Gran Turismo Sport.
is my g25 shifter compatible with the g920 ?
Why aren't you using the clutch when you change gear?
+Whiteblooded cause we don't always need to depending on the car or racing title
What's the difference between the g29 and the g920? The g29 seems to have more buttons?
I don't think changing to belt driven is a great choice, there are plenty of belt driven wheels on the market, I bought a Fanatec gt3rs and hated it and lost a ton of cash getting rid of it too.
I'm used to driving the Logitech GT wheel and love the feeling of the gears and I've owned it for over 3 years, still going strong.
I'm glad the G29 is a step up on the g27 since I've always wanted one.
Thanks for the review as it basically points out the g29 is a great wheel. I hope that in the future it is compatible with GT7 and I'll be happy with that.
I was checking out Project Cars on pc last night, and found there was a setting for brake sensitivity. I was using my T500, but it was something I had not seen before. There are a few pages of setup in there. Not sure it will be the same for G29, but worth a look.
Hello, thanks for review, how much is this gaming seat ?
Good work guys!
Did Logitech fix the issue with the optical encoder failing after a few months of use? I know several g27s had this issue.
what seat is that? can't seem to find good retailers for motion sim racing chairs in South Africa?