Quantum Break vs Lazy Social Justice Writing

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  • @Minority119
    @Minority119 6 років тому +44

    >"the Five Seven is known for its cavernous 20 rounds magazine"
    yeah, a cavernous 20 round magazine of .22 ammo
    so naturally in the game it's a 4 round magazine of .50
    g r e a t j o b

    • @ShooterQ
      @ShooterQ 5 років тому +1

      A similar thing was done to the Five-Seven in Alpha Protocol, making it a .50 caliber pistol. I'm beginning to believe it's an in-joke with the gaming industry.

    • @bud389
      @bud389 3 роки тому +3

      Five Seven doesn't use .22 ammo, it uses........5.7 ammo. Delivering similar amounts of energy to a .38 special.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 3 роки тому +4

      @@bud389 A .22 bullet is 5.7mm in diameter. He didn't specify which *kind* of .22 ammo.

  • @Xeloph986
    @Xeloph986 7 років тому +31

    holy shit, someone else who also thinks that the Arkham Horror rulebook is weird with it's use of "she" for everything.

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 7 років тому +44

    None of this would be an issue if people would just learn to reproduce through spores like a normal species.

  • @Raycevick
    @Raycevick 7 років тому +56

    I'm glad to see that it doesn't seem all bad with QB, as I've heard from some. Max Payne 1 & 2 pretty much guarantees I'll give anything Remedy or Sam Lake's involved with a shot. As for lazy progressive writing, it's an eye roll, but that goes for any form of lazy writing. I do find it a little odd how angry some get at it in particular, but I guess its due to politics, and everything's about picking a side.
    Finally, seeing BLACK reminds me that I'd love to hear your take on it. I haven't seen a single video on it that isn't a by the numbers review. Great video as always!

    • @RatboyRaticus
      @RatboyRaticus 7 років тому +1

      Does that mean we'll get a Max Payne retrospective?

    • @SicSemperBeats
      @SicSemperBeats 7 років тому

      RatboyRaticus yep he just did one two days ago

    • @jic1
      @jic1 3 роки тому +3

      Speaking from the future, the real problem with lazy social justice/progressive writing is that it eventually became all but compulsory.

  • @michaelbuehler3897
    @michaelbuehler3897 7 років тому +40

    Trying to hammer in a message is a good way to turn people away from your idea.

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +24

      Yeah, my HUSBAND agrees with you. COUGH.

    • @IISG93II
      @IISG93II 7 років тому +8

      You forgot to mention that you're a MALE and you have husband; that means you're GAY. Your HUSBAND, who is also GAY, should have corrected you on that one. MUH HUHZBUNDDDD M8!

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +14

      StarGazerLeon We're gay together.

    • @reJECT0
      @reJECT0 7 років тому +10

      WOAH WOAH WOAH, YOU CAN'T SAY YOU'RE GAY UNLESS YOU'VE ASKED YOUR HUSBAND WHAT GENDER HE IDENTIFIES AS!

    • @FreshTillDeath56
      @FreshTillDeath56 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheExaminedLifeofGaming Dude I feel badly for the gay people who just don't want anything to do with the stigma of this social justice crap.

  • @GentleHeretic
    @GentleHeretic 7 років тому +10

    Seven Discs. Congratulations, we have successfully looped back to the days of FMV games coming in massive binders.

    • @360zm4
      @360zm4 3 роки тому

      Yep, the X Files cd-rom game from the late 90s was on like 8 discs.

  • @ThePreciseClimber
    @ThePreciseClimber 7 років тому +4

    Jack Joyce? You mean the main character is NOT called Quantum Break? Bummer.

  • @drifter402
    @drifter402 7 років тому +6

    You fucking nailed it. I've been putting up with this bullshit for so long that at this point that I've almost forgotten why I was against it in the first place.

  • @MrGreenToS
    @MrGreenToS 6 років тому +2

    9:55 my favorite part from this video, great job on covering so many topics within a game I never really took a glance at.

  • @XeCuTioNR
    @XeCuTioNR 7 років тому +3

    Shawn Ashmore (Jack Joyce) best known for playing Iceman in the X-Men movies, also was on the show Animorphs & The Following. Other than that, some random Canadian TV shows & a few direct to video movies that I cant think of.

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +1

      Oh shit, it's a good thing I didn't know that because I hated Iceman in X2.

  • @retrovideogamejunkie
    @retrovideogamejunkie 6 років тому +3

    7 dvd?! funny enough that makes me remember when metal gear solid 2 subtance came out on ps2 and people ripped out on cds because early 2000 reasons

  • @SaberRexZealot
    @SaberRexZealot 7 років тому +5

    Finally, some much needed sense!

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 7 років тому +2

    BUT... the game is about a year old...

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 7 років тому +7

    Wait what the fuck? A libertarian not liking Ayn Rand? Now i've heard everything!

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +9

      I don't disagree with her beliefs (not all of them, at least), but her books were garbage. She should have written essays, not novels.

    • @salokin3087
      @salokin3087 7 років тому +3

      Muh.
      Free.
      MARKET

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +6

      You won't catch me saying anything nice about Communism (well... the Soyuz is still a pretty solid machine). That being said, I think the only way Ayn Rand or Libertarian style anarcho-capitalism works is if you assume everybody follows the classic Libertarian non-aggression principle.
      But that will never happen. So anarcho-capitalism with perfect non-aggression is a nice dream at best. Like something you'd see at the beginning of a Star Trek TNG episode, before everything goes horribly wrong or the holodeck goes on the fritz.

  • @jadegecko
    @jadegecko 7 років тому +2

    "The only true puzzle game is Rainbow Six Rogue Spear"
    Good God I would LOVE a Rainbow Six review

  • @F2bnp
    @F2bnp 7 років тому +1

    Opening this video up, I thought you would hate on it endlessly. It was nice seeing some valid points and also good to know that I'll probably enjoy Quantum Break (waiting for a decent price drop :D) after having enjoyed everything from Remedy.

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +1

      You definitely need to play it, but you also DEFINITELY need to get it for cheap! :)

  • @twotonicimprov124
    @twotonicimprov124 7 років тому +17

    So is Asuka best girl Roland?

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +7

      TectonicImprov ... no comment

    • @24-7annihilation5
      @24-7annihilation5 7 років тому +4

      She's a fockin bitch, you know what, there are so many things you could do with an evangelion drinking game, take a shot every time: the bitch says what are you stoooopid??!!! "It's an angel!" "I mustn't run away" every time that drum song comes on, every time you see gendo sat with his hands glued to his face, every time kaworu smiles, every time shinji screams and other ones too...

  • @SpeedySPCFan
    @SpeedySPCFan 7 років тому +21

    Good to see a proper video on forced social justice in game writing. I was tempted to do myself because I was tired of seeing videos that boiled down to "those filthy darn SJWs ruin my darn video games."

  • @retrovideogamejunkie
    @retrovideogamejunkie 7 років тому +1

    last time I play with the time was in prince of Persia sand of time .... *rolleyes time*

  • @minimme
    @minimme 7 років тому +4

    Quantum Break has one of the better villains in gaming, I loved how they used the show to flesh out his character

  • @spiff2268
    @spiff2268 7 років тому +3

    I know, right? Every time I play a female character in the Mass Effect games she ALWAYS ends up being a lesbian.

  • @OldsXCool
    @OldsXCool 7 років тому +1

    I thought it was just me thinking that modern "platformers" pretty much play themselves. Especially Assassin's Creed. Push forward to run, scale the wall, do a forward flip off the top of the roof, jump down into a wagon full of hay, roll out of the wagon and continue to run. From what I can remember Uncharted 2 seemed to be a bit less automatic, but I straight up couldn't stand when I played Uncharted 4 on my friend's PS4. It literally felt like I was in the game's way. Tomb Raider is guilty in some parts but not to the same extent....or maybe I just like looking at that hot polygon, perfectly rendered ass and that is clouding my judgement. Anyway I sort of felt the same way about Far Cry 3 as you feel about Quantum Break. I absolutely loved the game, but when I step back and really look at it I almost feel guilty for liking it since the game is NOT hard even on hard and you're way too overpowered. It can hardly be classified as a game really. Still that didn't stop me from grinning and giggling like a little school girl everytime I threw a remote explosive under the enemy jeeps and watch them try to scramble to exit the vehicle before I blew it up. The stealth was so easy it was a absolute crime due to the A.I. being incredibly stupid and for some reason it never got old to hear and see their stupid reactions. Some games just have that charm I suppose.

  • @Optimus6128
    @Optimus6128 4 роки тому

    I am following everything that Remedy does since Max Payne, the way the story was presented really caught me in and I am a big fan of Sam Lake (most other games pretending to have a story are like b-movies to me, I don't know why). Now,. I've played Alan Wake and loved the story of it too, but Quantum Break left me less satisfied, I don't know why. Even though I like the sci-fi theme of it. But yes, the gameplay was awkward. I am generally not enjoying 3rd person as much (usually they make realistic animations of characters but they are moving rather clunky and heavy to my taste) as I love the 1st person perspective, so these games have to keep me for the story. I just started playing Control, I like they went for the SCP theme, and the gameplay feels kinda better than their last one. Not extraordinary but seems to control better. And personally I like that they let you move and backtrack the facility, not restricting you in linear paths. Still most nostalgic for Max Payne (1 and 2 of course only), it's still Remedy's best imho. But I'll keep an eye on them as I still like what they are doing from time to time storywise.

  • @4423reborn
    @4423reborn 7 років тому +8

    Anthony Burch ruined Borderlands 2 for me. Thank gods, he left.

  • @GuyOnAChair
    @GuyOnAChair 7 років тому +1

    I don't hate gay people or other races I hate pandering and bad writing.

  • @nalvious
    @nalvious 7 років тому +1

    I wonder when we'll get a Max Payne review or something

  • @Spyderist
    @Spyderist 7 років тому +2

    a good review of a game that didnt get any ...breaks from the media.

  • @LN.2233
    @LN.2233 7 років тому +3

    Ubisoft didn't make those deus ex games

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +6

      Slip of the tongue, I annotated it. May not show up on all platforms...

    • @LN.2233
      @LN.2233 7 років тому +1

      The Examined Life (of Gaming) yeah, not on my phone

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +3

      Also I got notified while I was adding it that annotations are going away on May 2. How else am I supposed to fix my mistakes, UA-cam?!

    • @cyberninjazero5659
      @cyberninjazero5659 7 років тому +1

      The Examined Life (of Gaming) Have you tried being perfect?

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +1

      CyberNinjaZero Huh, I never thought of that.

  • @DylonND
    @DylonND 7 років тому +1

    thank you, this was good.

  • @ThePreciseClimber
    @ThePreciseClimber 7 років тому +5

    > Jesus God, 7 DVDs?
    Well, Blu-ray never caught on as a physical format for PC video games, so yeah.
    Not even for limited releases. I'm sure there are *some* collectors that would buy them.

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +5

      Which SUCKS. I put a Blu-Ray writer in my computer assuming it would come in handy for something, but then no good or cheap Blu-Ray software for PCs ever materialized... so nobody ever bought one.
      It makes me think that if HD-DVD had won the format wars we could play them natively in Windows Media Player today. Blu-Ray may have been technically superior, but now we're slaves to Sony.
      (until you download MakeMKV and Handbrake...)

  • @Masterchief12455
    @Masterchief12455 4 роки тому

    This is amazing please keep making new videos

  • @88fibonaccisequence
    @88fibonaccisequence 7 років тому +4

    Aidan Gillen can't maintain a consistent accent? I'm so surprised!

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +4

      And he makes the most hilarious face when he tries to gargle his way through American sounds, which TOTALLY shows on the VoCap.

  • @SabreXT
    @SabreXT 7 років тому +2

    On the he/she thing in rule books. There are good reasons to do that. Examples between 2 players, or if it's a game where a player has a character. In both cases, it makes it clear what's being referred to throughout the rules.

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому

      Arkham Horror was kind of a bad example I think, because the rules for that game are trying to juggle multiple players interacting with multiple monsters/cards/locations. It's kind of like how programmers talk about Alice and Bob.
      BUT, at the same time, I don't know a lot of women who go out of their way to play Arkham Horror. :)

    • @SabreXT
      @SabreXT 7 років тому

      I played Eldritch Horror with a woman just the other day, so I guess I know 1? :P

  • @kristoffergustavsson7978
    @kristoffergustavsson7978 7 років тому

    Apart from the interview cliche, what do you think of Criterions Black? Personally I

  • @ealtar
    @ealtar 7 років тому +3

    just love the non sense shoe horning in MEA.... they didn't realy get the point of "rebooting" civilisation....
    some people above have made quite the right argument
    in the end seuality/gender/skin tone.... bla bla bla bla bla .... is just as relevant as liking mint tea
    a detail of a persson not the entire deffinition of their character
    mehh quantum break .... fine .. i guess i'll try... ho hey an old copy of max paine.........

  • @cloudtx
    @cloudtx 7 років тому

    Interesting points. I'm definitely interested to get the game if I can someday. The Max Payne games are some my absolute favorites, including Max Payne 3.

  • @Irondrone4
    @Irondrone4 6 років тому +2

    Shadowrun has a bit of a spin on the whole "using pronouns oddly". I can't speak for the earlier versions of Shadowrun, but the new 5th edition books tend to alternate between male and female pronouns seemingly at random (with a slight emphasis on female, I think). It's unique, but I think it would read a lot better (i.e. a little less disjointed) if more gender-neutral wording was used.

  • @cominroitover80
    @cominroitover80 7 років тому

    Why the hell does the FN Five Seven only have 4 rounds?

  • @manicallydepressedclown8064
    @manicallydepressedclown8064 7 років тому

    well. that ck luis point is kind of creepy in 2017.

  • @jasonyesmarc309
    @jasonyesmarc309 7 років тому +13

    So, I'll admit, I'm kind of an SJW, so I came into this video with an assumption based on the title.
    But no, your points are really excellent and well-articulated ones, so I'm not sure if I'm disappointed because the title was kinda click-bait-y, or happy because you understand how this stuff is supposed to work WAYY better than a lot of other people. Tokenism is a problem in writing, and it's one that's kinda difficult for a lot of writers to work around, it seems.

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +7

      I see Quantum Break as taking a hit because of the lazy tokenism, but ultimately winning the battle and being a good game (or at least a good story). That's the "versus" in my mind. QB overcoming some shaky writing and triumphing.

  • @TheHelghast1138
    @TheHelghast1138 6 років тому

    Edios not Ubisoft. Freggin Awesome Video though!! That ending was Fucking choice!!

  • @Doomreb
    @Doomreb 7 років тому +2

    I'm also sick of main characters that look like this. What happened to bad asses? What's with all this styled haired, styled pants that match their shoes, tiny shirt topped with a small jacket....Nathan Drake's pants look like they were modeled directly after an abercrombie and fitch chino. No guys look rough anymore. Same for action movies. Yet another thing gone..

  • @hydrosamedh
    @hydrosamedh 7 років тому +1

    that skit at the end though lmao...

  • @Wargoat6
    @Wargoat6 6 років тому +1

    THAT STINGER!!!

  • @DraconisMarchVII
    @DraconisMarchVII 7 років тому

    "sifee"

  • @innoclarke7435
    @innoclarke7435 7 років тому

    Hey, Roland, I'm curious to know the reasons you have for disliking Ayn Rand's books just as books. I'm not fan of them myself, but primarily because I know Ayn Rand's philosphy, which I find to be catastrophically garbage, and the woman was little more than one cult leader amongst many. Book on the level of the books' writing itself... I don't often see people critiquing her work, so colour me intrigued.

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +3

      I've tried reading bits of them before, and there are PAAAAAAAAGES of rambly boring stuff. They're so long, and they do not need to be so long.
      Now if she had stuck to writing length political diatribes? That would probably have been much better. But polemics disguised as "novels" are kind of obnoxious.

    • @innoclarke7435
      @innoclarke7435 7 років тому

      I remember my girlfriend talking about how she had some weird libertarian phase and ended up reading, at the very least, Atlas Shrugged. And I just thought, "Even as a libertarian, why would you waste your time with that?" It's almost exactly the same number of pages as the 50th anniversary edition of The Lord of the Rings and, obviously, the most clever thing to do is just read that again. But I digress. I remember she said it was well-written. I severely doubted it.
      But yeah, I've looked at Atlas Shrugged, like you, looking at bits of them, and I obviously utterly concur. Honestly, from what I read, AT MINIMUM, 400 pages could've been cut, if her style is as consistent as what I saw. Just a bunch of extraneous detail for the sake of extraneous detail. Otherwise known as shite writing.

  • @MrEdcar007
    @MrEdcar007 7 років тому

    Sam Lake didn't write the story for this one.

  • @jmarra07
    @jmarra07 3 роки тому

    Get em

  • @racer927
    @racer927 7 років тому +1

    I keep finding myself a little bugged when the reference card and rulebooks for BattleTech use "he" instead of "they" but I never take it to extremes, I just shrug and move on.

    • @racer927
      @racer927 6 років тому

      I feel like this comment predicted the future with BATTLETECH's whole "they" spiel.

    • @badbeardbill9956
      @badbeardbill9956 4 роки тому +2

      Actually “he” used to also be used for when you don’t know someone’s gender

    • @racer927
      @racer927 4 роки тому

      @@badbeardbill9956 Ah. Never knew that.

    • @badbeardbill9956
      @badbeardbill9956 4 роки тому

      @@racer927 Yeah it became less common but it was also a gender neutral pronoun in that context.

  • @giantenemycrab5596
    @giantenemycrab5596 3 роки тому

    If you want a good version of this, (I don’t know of any games that do this well yet) but atomic blonde has gay stuff, but it feels natural, it works, it flows

  • @JStankXPlays
    @JStankXPlays 7 років тому +1

    SJW = Social Justice Warrior for those who are not up on the reddits (I had to google it)

  • @LeEnnyFace
    @LeEnnyFace 5 років тому +1

    I mean... you're raging over two optional unimportant collectibles (and this game is full of them, not to mention reduntant ones). It's not even part of the main story.
    I hate these radio station collectibles though

  • @alaksandutheexorkizein7634
    @alaksandutheexorkizein7634 5 років тому +1

    Objectivism is the worst. So yeah Ayn Rand philosophy also fucking sucks.

  • @fnd2583
    @fnd2583 7 років тому

    I guess not caring for audio texts and other bullshit (like the gay character backstory in DX) really pays off. And no, i don't support anal marriage and pedophilia adoption.

  • @Kentama
    @Kentama 7 років тому +1

    Can we please stop using the term "SJW"? Everywhere I go online these days I hear people whining about them, to the point that I'm finding that the people who use the term are more insufferable than the progressive hipsters they're complaining about, just different sides of the same obnoxious, self-righteous coin. I mean, is it really worthwhile to complain about the bogeyman of "SJW"s for a couple of inconsequential lines in a videogame? I mean, would anyone bat an eye if they were talking about traditional relationships instead? If not, then who really cares?

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +7

      Kentama I don't think it will stop until we're all dead.

    • @SabreXT
      @SabreXT 7 років тому +12

      The term SJW will stick around because that's what they are. If we used the term "progressive hipster", that would become the new "SJW", and we'd have comments complaining about that term. I vaguely remember when some people called them cultural marxists.
      If the lines are inconsequential, why do SJWs (or Progressive Hipsters if you prefer) get so upset by them not being included, and call games "progressive" and "brave" when they do include them?

    • @Kentama
      @Kentama 7 років тому +1

      They probably get upset by their exclusion for the same reasons you guys get upset by their inclusion. They're nitpicky and fastidious, and are quick to jump to negative conclusions when a work deviates from what they're expecting.
      Seriously. I mean from what I'm seeing, it's just two lines of dialogue, among hundreds? Maybe thousands? The guy just mentions his husband in passing, and THAT'S what's setting people off? No, what's setting you off is that you're carrying anti-SJW baggage into the game, and so ANYTHING that looks progressive brings up those bad memories of those horrible SJWs you dislike. Seriously, you guys are getting triggered by inauspicious, _small_ things just as badly as those SJW bogeymen get. Again, if the guy had been talking about his wife, who would bat an eye? No one. So if you're going to complain about it being a husband instead, JUST because you want to get angry at SJWs, then it's YOU carrying negative feelings into the work, because by itself the line OUGHT to be taken as just normal.
      Please get angry at things that are worth it. If an SJW is actively assaulting people in the streets, or making slanderous remarks that ruins someone's reputation, then that's worthwhile. But if you're going to complain about a couple lines in a work, that would be interpreted as normal if they were talking about traditional couples, then you're really just dragging your own agenda into things, which is really getting annoying to see everywhere.

    • @ThePreciseClimber
      @ThePreciseClimber 7 років тому +5

      We could just call them liberals of lefties, but that would be insulting to the 1% of liberals that *aren't* nuts.

    • @TheExaminedLifeofGaming
      @TheExaminedLifeofGaming  7 років тому +4

      It's not a big deal, but then again video game criticism is never going to be a big deal on a global scale.
      So if we've already decided to complain about a video game (first world problems, amirite?), critiquing the writing isn't a bridge too far.