Is This Mega-Tunnel 12,000 Years-Old? | Underground Exploration near Göbekli Tepe | Megalithomania
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Explore Turkiye in September 2024: www.megalithom... with $200 Discount for a limited time. Within a few miles to Göbekli Tepe, a one-hundred-metre (300 ft) long sloping tunnel has been carved out of solid bedrock at another unexcavated and very ancient Taş Tepeler site in Southeast Turkiye. No one knows who did it, or why. Locals say it there is a spring here and may have been used to collect water. Others say it has carvings in it. Is it from 12,000 years ago, or did the Romans do it? Why is it oriented north-south? Does it have astronomical significance? Hugh Newman and Andrew Collins investigate this secret sloping tunnel for the first time, that has been hidden from the public (with full permission from the landowners). Features part of an interview with Hugh by @stargate_voyager which can be viewed in full here: • Strange Mysteries of T... .
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Is there a clearly defined stone floor that you can find? Something with evident pick marks? I ask because the visible section resembles the flat-top coffin shape of a hand cut mine such as you would find in old roman mines. However, in those old mines the flat-top coffin shape of the upper part of the tunnel was just wide enough to allow for a man to cut with a pick/chisel and then proceed with clearance for his shoulders. If this tunnel is a mine, with classic construction technique it would mean that the miners either tripled the width of the mine for some inefficient reason, or the shoulders of the miners would three times wider than a man's. The actual depth of the tunnel(minus all the debris), would also be approximately 3-4 times the depth of a traditional mine, with a narrowing at the base. At the 11:30 mark, you can see extremely long horizontal cuts on the stone, indicating a very large tool.
I got an idea. Dig out the rubble please. Seriously open that up
The guys are doing great work,we can't expect them to do everything for us , perhaps it's time others help, maybe yourself your obviously enthusiastic,could be a great adventure (just get the necessary permissions first ,as the guys did) all the best from sunny Troon 😊
Yes! Big question is, why is that tunnel full of rubble and how and when did that rubble get there 🤔
Uh yeah I'm sure the turkey government wouldn't mind if they just start digging up archeological sites without permission....
I agree, get that train back on the track!
That's what I was gonna say ,dig it out ,get to the solid rock bottom
So glad we get to go on these journeys with you and get to see things i/we will never be able todo. Thank you for these adventures🙏🇬🇧
Amazing! Great find and I look forward to the excavation. Turkey’s archaeology bill must be huge!
More of an investment than a bill. 😊
Thanks, Hugh and Andrew, you're doing excellent research,
it's much appreciated.
I think that tunnel was deliberately filled in. The walls and ceiling are in pristine condition with no signs of collapse. If all that debris fell in from the opening the entrance would be massive. The amount of work it must of took to carve a tunnel through solid stone like this is unreal.
Excellent find, excellent video, makes me want to do some fundraising for additional professional exploration and documentation! Well done!!
There is so much over in Turkey as it must off been a much bigger population than what we thought , nilly everywhere you look into the bed rock it has been worked .
I would love to see this excavated and see what age the rubble shows at the very bottom, and if the tunnel keeps going past where the rubble has fillled it.
You need to get better torches! Seriously thhe mini torch on my key chain is more powerful than the ones your using!
Would the sun leave shadows on the ridges at a certain time of year with just the end illuminated ?
I can't believe andrew made through the whole video without saying soul hole....
The recent trash in and around just kills me a little. I would have had to give that kid a $20 to clean it up and tell him next time if it's still clean I'd give him $100 and see if they cared about there ancient culture.
I wonder if it's a crematorium.
So you never made it to the end of the tunnel? Looks like it was so full of debris you couldn’t go further.
Get some interest going maybe the locals will clear away the mess so we can see where it really goes!
You don’t even know how high the ceiling really is because you could be standing on a meter or more of debris!
Flood tunnels
Seriously Gov I believe that it's probably older , around the 15000 mark. I'm glad you're going down.
Tip. In mining a vertical hole is a shaft. Horizontal is a drift. Kinda helps differentiate. You guys rock.
And so if I lay on my back it’s a shaft but if I’m stood up its a drift ❤
@@JM4lN_PvP backwards. If you do that you'll get shafted
@@davidlancaster8152😂😂😂
But this one is diagonal..? ;P
Wow this is incredible hopefully some work gets done there in the future to uncover the rest. Great video as usual Hugh and Andrew
That tunnel will be filled in, before it gets dug out.
That tunnel shape reminds me of the tail of certain animals, how it's segmented and gets smaller towards the end. Scorpions have tails like that, and aren't there scorpion motifs on some of the structures?
dont think so..looks to me like it was purposly filled in..if the ''locals'', dont know, then, its at least 12k old..our creators, aliens, were on earth 200,000k ago, mining minerals, or,,we were..they left 13k ago.. sumerian tablets viper tv.. romans had sht to do with anything,,same as the egyptians..
Incredible! What a find! Andrew! Hugh! Thank you so much. I've not heard anything about this before. Awesome 😎
The Turkish government should commission you guys to uncover the evidence of their greatest heritage. You have the knowledge ,will, skill, contacts and following to help them get their priceless sites uncovered professionally and objectively for the worlds appreciation and understanding. Turkeys ancient sites are paradigm shifting for our human story and you guys know all about it!
Just tell them, if they let you help them put some major excervations together, in a few years time their sites will attract more tourism than the pyramids at Giza. They just need your expertise , also with the ongoing media coverage to make it real to the world 🌍😮🌎 !!
That is amazing I would love to see it all cleared out.
It wouldn't be surprise if it was over 12,000 years old
How do they know how old this is?
@@hankscorpio8928 they don't - follow the money
You call it bed rock. But that covers a wide range of stone types from sand stone (easy to carve) to granite or basalt or metamorphic rock. Need some clue of its hardness.
I don't understand why so many of these things say "we only have a few minutes so we have to work fast, Hope we have enough time to get x,y,z" Why don't you guys plan better? You have been to the site before, should have brought some tools and laborers to dig down a small hole to at least see the floor.
The hole thing seems a little fishy to me.
Bunch of tourists if you ask me
Questions: Tombs. Why does it always have to be tombs and have a ritual functionality? Orientated? Ugh. When did that become a word? The Romans? Speculation sucks. Get to excavating. Good stuff.
How is not studying these enigmatic sites THE top priority of all nations?
What are the materials of the debris/material on the floor? The arches are reminiscent of whale ribs. What kind of stone is this caved in to? Is there evidence of related structures above ground at the cave’s entrance? Are there any excavated basements, wells, or other constructions in the village? Does it extend beneath a road?
That's freakin Awesome!! And according to the mainstream, no one was supposed to be able to accomplish anything like this, that long ago. Awesomeness!!
According to what mainstream lol
The end of the tunnel looks buried and needs to be excavated. It may go on much further.
Can't soot be carbon dated? Of course that doesn't tell you when the carving was done, but it would be interesting nonetheless!
Soot may be the result of more recent interlopers.
It may have been an oil well that caught on fire leaving the soot on the roof and walls. The rubble may have been attempted control of the fire. Not all oil is recently discovered and used.😊
Spontaneous thought, how did it become filled with rubble? It's not coming from the walls or the roof. It looks like a giant flood transported debris and clogged up the tunnel.
Doesn't look like water carried rubble to me, if that was the case walls would show scratches and rock would be rounded for that kind of volume. Looks more like quaried rock carried in with the intent to seal it off like the tepe sites. With a roof it would be hard to fully fill and some settlement would take place with loose rock over time. Further work needs done.
if you dig youll find bones there, and if you remove the rubble at the end the tunnel continues, turns and theres a large room.
And in that room there is big old .........😱
@@malcolmrickarby2313 that we shall never know in this lifetime hahaha!
@@malcolmrickarby2313 when i was there as a child there was not even half as much rubble shoved in there.
I sure would like to see someone excavate that rubble. If they do, please video.
Thanks Andrew and Hugh for the great work you guys do. I'm a Korean American fan from Seoul. Hopefully I can meet you guys on your tour someday. Cheers!
It's so typical to jump to all kind of assumptions without knowing anything. "A tomb", "for ritual porpuse" etc. Why is that? "From the Roman period"... Really?
It must have been a massive setback for archaeologists when it was discovered that Göebli Tepe was covered over on purpose about 11000 years ago...
So will this tunnel also be. A big surprise.
As usual, good info, no leaps of conjecture, jus the facts and allow us to make our own minds up. I'm currently a couple of months away from my first published book and hope to meet you guys at some point.
Greets from my Desposyni side; we know Adam is halfway down the kings lists as the first human ever to be given kingship of a city-state.
I hope the cave gets some serious examination. What a great find spot! The area it is in is intriguing being so close to other sites. I hope it can be critically dated.
Has no one ever had the interest in removing the rubble, checking for artifacts, and finding out where the tunnel leads to? That tunnel looks like it was bored with high tech machines.
I noticed how relatively smooth the walls were. I didn't see any "tool" marks either. I would like to see more detailed exploration and removal of debris. Find out how far tunnel extends.
Looks like an old mine, could be anything from thousands to hundreds of years old. Neat find, almost feels like being Indiana Jones finding that!
I think you're on real big and very important exploration to find any answers to understand what's really happend "in" and "under" göbeklitepe...perhaps for the whole rest of these tunnel structures in the world!!!! Love it ❤
What an excellent share Hugh and Andrew, thank you soooo much!!!👍🙏🙏😊
The headdress almost looked like a Grid map with tunnels extending off
It looks very old-definitely older than Roman times - based on its location. I would also suggest many more caves and extensive tunnels are near. Thanks for bringing this to the world’s attention. 😊❤
It seems like the section of the shaft has been designed with a lot of attention to detail. I wonder if this is for a specific purpose, such as serving as a door or grid? It's intriguing to think about the possibilities! 🤔🧠⚡
Fun, exciting, new! Thank you for the great video. I loved every moment of it.
in Nevada some exploratory inclines were angled in such a way to take advantage of daylight while digging - perhaps the same here
question is how did they get light for the portion of the day when sunlight did not penetrate
Gives me Mithraeum vibez - and this is also the birthplace of the Mithras cultus - it makes sense, is it an earlier aspect of Mithra as an Adonis figure, also contemporoary to the area, is it a heros tomb, or is it much much older? but I think Mithraeum
Why carved? Possibly the word constructed is better suited
Useful for the next Solar catsotiphy as well as Derinkuyu or Kaymakli...
You boyz r brave pioneers, maximum respect! Love ur wrk, bn following for years, but liked and subbed from my other account. Many thanks, peace out
With such an unaltered ceiling, and walls where did the rubble come from unless a stream feeds in from the top at times?
One question: why???
It's cool having family history that goes back that far even if some of it was about alien intervention pre-Adamic style.
Makes me wonder what's up with these tunnels and sights being filled with ruble. The tunnels under the Bosnian pyramids and Gobekli Tepe covered up or filled in with ruble 🤔
And look at you guys literally covered in debris from the tunnel. Talk about boots on the ground and hands on you guy's are killing it. My hat is off to you guys mad respect!!!!
Thanks guys I gotta say the art needs RTI great discovery
What gauge tool tip did the engraving?
Good question… if the floor was excavated, would the height have some consistency? I think the soot is a ‘recent’ anomaly. Although, given the possibility of age, ‘recent’ may be ‘over the last 10k yrs’. Caves, tunnels, mines etc, have been a gathering site for youngsters for youngsters since alcohol was invented..
Hallo mein Freund gib mir bitte die Koordinaten ich fahre sommer dort in die nähe.
Greetings Hugh! Very exiting!
The angle downslope coupled with the polar orientation could tell you the approximate date it was made. Also, through archeo astronomy or astrology it might be oriented toward a star cluster.
If it’s a mine, then the roof and arches are remarkably well finished. The water mine idea is interesting, reminiscent of the long range water carrying tunnels and channels into Istanbul. Doesn’t really fit though - it just goes down at a walkable slope. The north south alignment needs checking and if confirmed, is a big question.
Still more likely to be Roman or medieval but when you’ve got local villages with 12000 year old statues in basements it *could* be vastly older.
So interesting! Thank you so much JJ and Hugh and Andrew for all the work you do
I think its possible that all that fill ,like the apprent burrial of Gobekli Tepe and other megalithic sites of great antiquity, is due to the fall out from the last pole shift. Which could be exactly what the builders there and at Derinkuyu were trying to protect themselves from!
that, or they buried it as a time capsule and the tools and tech weve been searching for is at these buried places
@@TheMookie1590 Great point. I think your right. If these sights were properly excervated the things that could be found might be game changing. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they found more advanced architecture and tech from predeluvial times under deep under the remains of less advanced generations that came later. Who lost knowledge, tech and skills were being lost during that last pole shift and resulting ice age.
You are in the colon of a giant.
Yes Zeniths even lunar zeniths
Why, carve into Bedrock, with such detail, & precision? Definitely not a Mine, yet possibly built to survive a Ice Age Megadisaster! And seriously these Subterranean; "Catacombs;" are for disaster survival, (as a bomb shelter would be Today). No Ancient Culture that is known of today, has shown an ability to have accomplished this type of work.
Sound and frequency technology, because of those dimensions reduced in steps. Very old Phonon technology like many other megalithic structures. Quote from Wikipedia, Phonon: "The study of phonons is an important part of condensed matter physics. They play a major role in many of the physical properties of condensed matter systems, such as thermal conductivity and electrical conductivity, as well as in models of neutron scattering and related effects.
The concept of phonons was introduced in 1932 by Soviet physicist Igor Tamm. The name phonon comes from the Greek word φωνή (phonē), which translates to sound or voice, because long-wavelength phonons give rise to sound. The name is analogous to the word photon representing wave-particle duality for sound waves."
Before you mentioned the spring I was wondering if it could be to protect the wayer supply? Not just for access but as dual purpose as a fort, or even from evaporation depending on the climate for whenever it is dated?
no
yes
well never tell
Nothing like a phenomenal discovery explained by a soft spoken mumbling English man you can't understand...
It’s staggering what they did with chicken bones 🦴 😂😂😂😂😂
Great job guys.
👍👍🙏🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧
I believe that there are much more important, powerful reasons for these structures having being created, used for a time and then hidden away again.
My own belief is that Gobekli and Karahan
Tepe have to do with the repopulating of the planet with all the different types of creatures after a great catastrophe virtually wiped every type of land dwelling creature off the face of the planet.
A kind of ancient underground laboratory if you like, from whence they rebred and repopulated all the world's animals. If Noah's ark (which apparently also landed in Turkey) was real, then think about it . . afterwards there would have to have been a sacred safe environment like this where breeding programs could be conducted and controlled. It would then make sense as to why the whole place was covered up and hidden away again afterwards. Perhaps the T-pillers represented different land masses or regions all around the world. Those many important looking carved 'handbags' could represent that these contained the very essential sperm or DNA of all the different endangered species.
I also believe that the WEF are well aware of the true relevance of Gobekli and are literally trying to bury the truth again by not allowing archaeologists have access to dig the remainder of the site, that's why I'm going to repost this message on every Gobekli Tepe related video I can find.
You can call me mad or whatever you want, don't care.
May the Lord God bless you all, His truth shall be revealed.
North, south, 12,000 years, rituals.... please quit with conjecture
What's the energy like there? Could the tapering/narrowing of the tunnel be to focus energy and/or to point to something? Would be helpful to map it in context with ground penetrating radar and the like
Es la entrada a una ciudad de hace millones de años un banquer 🤷🏿♂️🧘🏻♂️
I’ll be interested when you can afford proper lighting for videoing, I’m not impressed with how many times you can say “wow” or “this is unbelievable”.
5:56 those are the impressions of bricks showing through the stucco...
That "cave" was probably above ground when it was built...
Do some archaeology get the shovels out...
I’ve been exploring the area between Yogunburç and Sayburç using copper dowsing rods with wooden handles, they seem to work better than the copper coming in direct contact with hands, and have found quite a few meteorites. Was there a known Meteor Impact in this area?
Congrats, you've found an "ole. That's wot archaey-folly-gists do in'it? See, I've lived in Bedford too.
I wish this could easily be cleared out to see the floors. It’s just too big for traditional known Roman usage. Hhhmmm…
It's a Templar cave.
The hole is for a plain fire, and it looks like a Fleur symbol.
Need to go down to floor level and move forward.
This leads to somewhere BIG!!
Thanks Megalithomania this is amazing, Don’t understand why there is so much debris on the floor, the roof and walls don’t look like the crumbling?
That square you pointed out. Right there, from an angle, hieroglyphics of some sort. The bird was very clear. And lines delineating text were not uncommon
The real Dr jones, great vid, thx :)
If that’s 12,000 years old I’d ask it’s curators permission to excavate it’s deepest area after hazmat suits are on and digging deep could reveal any DNA left behind. I think an armoury for storing weapons out of sight as my prediction. Really exciting find and potentially others could be possible on the opposite side are possible so not to rely on on source of arms for protection, like clear across the other side of the valley if they are unable to reach this point. Least possibilities have to do with storage of the gathered crops as the Greeks are know to do. Still an incredible sight.
Amazing discovery. It would be a monumental task, but I have to wonder what is below the rubble? All the best to you and your work. Thank you.
Hey great video, keep it up. Secondly, I noticed you have a blackberry Keyone...... is there a place where you get yours as theyre impossible to get downunder. I miss my blackberry.
Years old?
Is there any evidence of a local Roman garrison ? The extended cave would be ideal for the initiations into the cult of Mithras .......
Looks like it needs a whole school full of Archaeology students, to dig that place out? but that's what's needed?
excavate all those stones and ruble from the floor, and I'm willing to bet, the purpose for it, becomes clear
Why was the straight line, difficult to navigate? Excellent’find’ now get digging that rubble out
Anybody else have an insane urge to decorate and claim that cave forever as their base??? Im thinking its a great place to chill this election year. Bet the wifi is terrible too. Im all in!!!❤❤❤
it looks Acoustical, I imagine each ridge as a sound blocker, inward sound would reflect and block itself, outward sound would flow without returning like an echo, basicly it wont echo in either direction. I guess. kinda like a Tesla Valve, with the flow of sound instead of water.
That small niche inside on the side of entrance could have been for a guard or guarding dog or other animal. That's my feeling about it...
The guard could hide there and anybody entering the dark in first moment would not see the niche and the guard in it entering deeper, and then the guard/dog would stand behind them creating "black" intimidating figure that would have upper hand for any combat or whatever purpose they would intend... Spiritual or just robbing the goods the entering person/s might have had with him/them...
Wow! Hope you get to explore this further
Tepi was filled with rubble as well. Very modern arch shape ahead of Roman tech. Whoever built it wanted to hide it for a long period like Tepi sites. Even may have served as a deep shelter during the destruction it was used to survive. The cuttouts have slat holes for shelves. Looks like a modern fallout bunker. Need to cleen out the rubble and screen it, could atleast be able to date the filling and perhaps find more artifacts. Hasmat suits should be worn with new sites as old viruses may be preserved, suspected to explain some pharaoh's curse deaths.
For some reason, I got to thinking of Ali Baba and the 40 thieves while watching! Maybe it was a secret lair for ancient highwaymen!
What type of stone is it?
That doesn't seem to be anything to worry about. But if you ever find yourself in a cave with smooth walls: Get the fuck out!
Where exactly is this tunnel? Can we visit it? I went to the Çayönü site only to find out that it is closed to visitors. I wish you would provide these details in your videos too.
Lighting is very very poor, like some horror film. It is difficult to see and appreciate the grandeur of the place. Since yours is the first video on this tunnel, show also the ground condition not just the walls and ceiling. I noted that rocks on the ground are different from the rock type of the wall.