Woodland Mill HM126 Brutally Honest Review.
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2021
- Woodland Mill HM126 Brutally Honest Review. So you want to buy a sawmill and you're not sure which one to get? Watch this video before you decide. I discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly. Over all, I'll let you decide.
#Woodland Mills HM126 #BandsawMill #CanadianHomesteadSawmill
I’ve been researching this mill for the last year and your video is by the most valuable source of information that I’ve come across!
Thank you VERY much for your honest and articulate and enjoyable presentation.
Well done and good luck guys! 👍
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much and have a great day
You really handled your frustrations well! I'm glad Woodland Mill is doing all they can to make up for the challenges you've experienced with their product. Looking forward to seeing what you create with it!
Thanks for watching guys. Customer service was really good. Now on to milling some lumber.
I appreciate your videos because they are extremely informative, and you seem to handle the issues that arise with complete integrity. Knowing that it's frustrating but, also that things do just happen sometimes. The take way for me is that the customer service as you stressed several times is impeccable. Thanks again you guys are great.
Thanks so much
I just found your video and I want to thank you for taking time to share your thoughts.
You have made me feel a little better about all of the missing parts on my sawmill, I am in the process of assembling my Norwood LM30 and I am totally frustrated with them. The first problem was the owner's manual and assembly instructions were in a language that I could not read when I know I had to specify that I read English. Then when I began assembly last weekend I was missing two leveling feet, the water tank cap and tether and an entire box of parts.
Unfortunately Norwoods customer service is not even close to being as good as you stated Woodland Mill's is, the only communication with them is email and it takes four days just to get a question answered. They did finally tell me that they are sending the missing parts and that they will email me when the parts ship but did not give any indication as to how long that will be.
One thing I will give them credit for is all of their parts and bolts are precisely labeled and the assembly instructions are very detailed. I wish Woodland Mill's could follow that example for your sake.
I had been regretting not getting a WM but your video taught me that apparently every company has their issues.
One of these days I will hopefully be sawing my own lumber and all of this will seem to be worth it.
Thanks again.
Thanks Scott. Appreciate your great comments. I always try to give balanced insights, the good the bad and the ugly. I think every sawmill has its perks and imperfections. We have to work with what we get and sometimes that can be very frustrating for sure. I do appreciate WM's customers service. It is the best out there. Enjoy your mill and have fun. Let's stay in touch my new friend.
I think all your Dissatisfactions are warranted. And it's good to hear that woodland mills has great customer support and worked with you quickly to get everything fixed. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. The customer service was awesome. They really did go out of their way to resolve everything.
You are a patient person! This was a brutally honest review. Good luck with the new machine.
Thanks Lisa. I tried to be patient and understanding. Stuff happens.
Howdy y’all- I want to thank you for doing this video as I ordered the same sawmill last week. I’ve been watching different videos on the mills but you have enlightened me on what to be on the lookout for. Again, thank you so much. God bless y’all
Thanks for watching and so glad it helped. Take care and God Bless
Yes, I am also buying one after much research.
I’ve been working with the HM126 for a little over a year now and I love it. I’ve got some videos about it on my channel if you’re interested.
@@fortunatefarmer6941 I’ll sure go watch them. Thank you so much. Blessings
Great video! I enjoyed the way you covered all points of interest. I subscribed and look forward to watching some of your other topics as well. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Thanks Allen. Appreciate the support. Glad you enjoyed the video. Hope you enjoy the others as well. We have quite a playlist of multiple topics. We always enjoy meeting new folks and making new friends. We look forward to getting aquatinted. We also do Live Stream every Tuesday night 8:00 pm Atlantic Canada Time. Drop in if you like that sort of thing. We have a good time. Thanks again and take care
Great video guys thanks for sharing. I have the exact same sawmill halfway put together and appreciate your tips!
Awesome. You will enjoy milling I’m sure. I try to post new content every week. But we are moving so I’ve not had the time to set down and edit. Thanks for watching
Thank you for your review 😄 I have almost saved up enough money to purchase one .
And I appreciate the problems that you had with it and that you shared with us .
Thanks for watching and glad we could help. We hope you have great milling success. And don’t be hesitant to check out the Woodland Mills, now that I have all the wrinkles worked out, it runs and mills great. Have a great day friend and thanks for coming by the channel. We will be uploading more milling content so stay tuned.
Your honesty is heartfelt and understandable. Thankfully every time you said you had to phone the company for the issues you was having they was understanding and cooperative. Unlike other companies that are out to push an sell you the product then now becomes your own problem from the moment it reaches your hands. Woodland at least seems to hold up their product to rectifies any issues the customer has. Glad you now at least have your mill up and running. In one of your talks to Woodland you should of mentioned to up their quality control, especially on Fridays, LOL.
Thanks for watching guys. We are very appreciative of the customer service we received.The reason we purchased from Woodland is because of their reputation in the customer service department. Once we got everything resolved all has been well. Have a great day guys.
Thanks for the great review. We are ordering this exact mill with trailer shortly. I hope it's not a Friday mill for me, too, lol!
Hi folks. I’m in NB nor far from Sussex. I purchased a WM HM 126 10 yr anniversary model, so 2020 I believe. I received all the parts that were to come with the mill. I had the reverse problem in that I threw blades when I torqued the t handle. When I used the flush method I have not thrown a blade in the last three years. Sorry you had so many issues with the shipping and quality. Mine has been great and no issues to comment on. Thanks for the video and best of luck.
Thanks Brad and welcome to Creekside. Appreciate the comment. Great to hear from another NB friend. Our mill works great now and Woodland was very good at solving all the issues. I’ve got over 300 hours on it now. I torque my blades by hand now. 2.5 turns after it it is two finger tight. Works every time. Have a great weekend
Hey you two what a great review glad the customer service was good 👍 so things got fixed that came damaged. Have a blessed night 🌙
Thanks Jewlz. It was a bit frustrating at first, but we got everything worked out and now all is well.
Good review Tony and I can imagine your frustrations. I did consider those guys but I am so glad I got the one made from the local builder. I had issues too but no where near the level of yours. I had no assembly and I can hook it up and haul it at a moments notice. But then again, I paid twice what you did. I am glad you got the extension and I am sure you will get good use out of it. Looking forward to seeing the lumber you make and many blessings. Oh and feel free to call with questions on the sharpener or the duel tooth setter.
Thanks Erin. Appreciate that. Over all, after we got everything worked out, it’s a good mill. Thanks to customer service, it has all worked out
I appreciate your honesty. I think I need to keep researching before making a decision
Very wise. Take your time. A mill is a big investment. Norwood and Woodmizer are very good.
Thanks for sharing. Very helpful review with lots of pertinent info.
great review glad you got it worked out good job you are so patient I am I think pretty easy going but I probably would have flipped out not that it would do any good but glad you got it worked out hopefully it's smooth sailing now thanks for sharing take care
Thanks Tom. It did all work out. Customer service was awesome. Overall once we got all the wrinkles ironed out, it’s been a good mill
A good foundation for everything is so important. I haven't received my mill yet but I also cemented 4x4 in the ground well below frost line with 1 ft above ground , then 4x4 across the top of them and 2x6 on top of the horizontal 4x4's. So my adjusting feet will mount on the 2x6.
A strong foundation is the success of all things for sure.Sounds like you are off to a great start in getting everything ready for the arrival of your mill. You will enjoy it for sure. Thanks so much for watching our channel.
Thanks for pointing out all the things to to fix and improve on mill
No problem. Thanks for watching
Awesome! Great review. Can’t wait to see it in action!
Thanks Lisa. The next video for sure
This was a fair review Tony. Thankfully you got it all figured out. 👍 I would probably have had a meltdown.
It all worked out. I tried to be fair and honest.
I have a harbor freight and had very little problems with setting it up and running it for 5 years ...a friend of mine purchased the hm 126 and had lots of problems to but woodlands mills has the best customer care and took care of him to... even though I haven't had any problems with my harbor freight I tell everyone to get the woodlands mill... the hm 122 is relatively the same cost and even with their initial problems it's a better saw
Thanks my friend. At first it was a troubling experience for sure, but Woodland has the best customer service so it all worked out in the end. There have been a few hiccups along the way but we get them resolved pretty quick.
Yep! The bolt sizing can be frustrating but I simply brought up a conversion app on my phone! MM to fraction worked like a charm!
Thanks for the great idea Robert. I wished I had of thought of that. We fid manage to get it all straightened out and put together. Have a great day!!
I have a 2020 hm122-9.5 and I love my mill I see people having issues and they fly off the handle i understand it's frustrating to have issues I guess I got lucky I haven't had to call wm for anything and the only problems I have had was my fault. Great video
Thanks for watching my friend. I see a lot of folks going off as well. I try to stay very fair and balanced in my review. I love my mill. We just had to work out a few glitches. It runs great and I would buy another one for sure. Thanks again. Hope you are having a great new year.
I believe it says you should compare the tensioning device with a torque wrench. Once you get the band to proper tension check where the tension indicator is. So many people use too much lubrication. Supposed to be 1-2 drops per second. That's all.
All very true for sure. It's the little things that can be overlooked that will lead to bigger problems later, if not resolved quickly. Have a great day
Repeating the Bearded Carpenters comments...ordered the 130. Here in s.e. Arizona,
little warmer, lots of mesquite, furniture grade lumber and firewood. Thanks again
and keep us newbees posted.
john
Thanks John. Glad to have you on the channel. You will enjoy the 130. I imagine Arizona is a tad bit warmer. Lol. It’s snowing and minus 28 here. I wish I had some mesquite. I would use it in my meat smoker. When is the delivery date for your mill?Thanks for the kind words. Have a great day.
This was a very good review on this sawmill thank you so much for putting it out there
Thanks Rebekah. Appreciate it. ❤️
That was a " left -right-center " review. Good job. I'll be ordering mine in the near future
Thanks Mike. They are a good mill. I tried to cover all the bases without a bias one way or the other. I have over 300 hours on mine now. Thanks again and have a great day.
Loved the video…
My family used to live at 669 Main Street in Lawrencetown!
Small world… I am living in Southern Arizona and trying to get back to my family in the Valley.
You folks don’t seem to have the NS accent.
Keep up the great videos.
Hey Mark. Thats awesome. I grew up and we to school in Lawrencetown. We lived in the US for 15 years and moved back here 5 years ago. Great to hear from you. Let’s stay in touch.
I love your video, I live in bridgewater and am strongly thinking of setting up a mill on my property. I would love to see you setup
That’s awesome Art. Let me know when you are coming through and I will take you on a tour. Thanks for watching and supporting our channel. Take care friend.
Boy Tony!!! You sure got a wonderful wife in Joanie!! We all love her, too! Honestly, you produce a great video. Thanks much!
Thanks Don. Appreciate the kind words. Joanie is and has been the best for 33 years. We try to put out good videos and always love to get positive feedback. Thanks again for watching and Merry Christmas
Nice review Tony and Joanie
Nice presentation!! My wife and I are contemplating a band mill. We have a rotary 32" circular mill with a 22" resaw and with age creeping up on us it's just too difficult to lift the cants and process.
Thanks so much for watching. We appreciate it. The mill is a big blessing for sure. I understand the age and sore muscles. I had 5 repairs done all at once on my left shoulder. It isn’t what it used to be. We welcome you to Creekside. If we can help out in any way let us know. Are happy to answer any questions. Take care friends.
Good morning I am sorry to hear about all the inconvenient you had with your experience on buying your mill I got my hm 126 in April 2015 and been running it since then I did have a few small issues but as far as the part labeling everything was label very well so I can say I am very satisfied with the whole thing and even back then the costumer services was fantastic they explain a few thing that I had problem understanding also my blade tensioner on my mill is 35 pound on the torck wrench but all the newer model ask for less have a great day
Thanks for watching. I appreciate your comment. At first, the initial set up was stressful and I had quite a few bent and broken pieces or wrong parts. However, Woodland was great. They looked after me very well. I have over 300 hours on the mill now without to many issues. Overall, I am pleased now with my mill. Have a great day friend.
Thanks for your video. I am thinking of buying a mill. I live in Moncton. Charles
Awesome. You will enjoy milling. Thanks for watching our video and welcome to the channel. We know Moncton well. We have a daughter in Amherst. My wife has a cousin in Moncton. If I can help in any way let us know. If you have any questions just ask. Have a great weekend
My 130 they sent me everything but a key to start it
That's awesome.I think most times it is all good. I think I just got one put together Friday afternoon. But once everything got worked at, all is good. Woodland was great through it all. Thanks for watching. Merry Christmas.
lol!
That's why I never order on a friday lol. Seriously though I hope they have resolved these issues because I just ordered one and I really don't want to be on hold every day trying to get issues resolved. I'm not as patient as you. I greatly appreciate the videos you have done and especially the little odd things that would've costed me more time trying to figure out how it goes. Labeling the packages of bolts would be great. I'll do something like make a quick guide on a piece of wood with a scale so I align the bolts to it for reference.
Thanks so much. It was a love hate relationship at first but Woodland was and still is very good at resolving problems. I have nearly 300 hours on my mill now and it’s been working good. Appreciate the comments and have a great day.
My hm-126 arrived early and was perfect. I had none of the problems you mentioned.
That is awesome. I think mine was a one of. But now it’s great and I would buy another. Enjoy your mill. I know we do and thanks for watching
really sorry to hear your troubles with the new HM126. I have the Older model HM126 that i got in 2012 and let me tell you.... i have had no major issue with mine other than having to change the tensiooning bearings . i mill about 1000 bft a month with it and it has paid for itself 10 teimes over. I'm actually looking to upgrade my HM126 with the 9.5 to one just like your with a 14Hp and electric start. You will enjoy that mill, no doubt. Keep us updated on how your doing with it. Just as a side note... my budy has a Norwodd and let me tell you....support is not Woodlands mills support. woodland Mills has top notch support. i have called and written to them nany times for advise and adjustment and they are a pleasure to work with. All the best with your mill.
Thanks Andre. Appreciate it. I think my situation was a rare one for sure. NOw that it’s all worked out, everything is running well. I mill every week and it all goes well. Woodland has the very best customer service for sure. The electric start sounds awesome for sure. I will keep posting the video updates for sure and look forward to getting acquainted. Thanks again and happy milling. And if you have any suggestions or pointers that will make me a better sawyer, feel free to share. I’m going to have different personalities make guest appearances on our UA-cam channel live from time to time to have open forums and discuss different aspects and challenges of milling. Would love to have you on with us some time. All you need is a good computer, phone, laptop, and a internet connection. We are always looking for ways to help out new sawyers and mill owners. Have a great day friend
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead Hi guys. keep up the good work. Love your content. I will have a project to share with you soon. I just finished building a Solar kiln for drying my wood. when i have time i will do a walkaround and send you the video for you to take a look. This kiln has a few interesting upgrades from what you usually see on the internet...lol
@@andrelevesque6300 thanks. That will be awesome for sure
You’re BRUTAL Tony. LOL Just messing with ya. I though it was a very fair review and just the fact that the customer service is willing to listen and fix various issues is worth it’s weight in gold. So many companies drop the ball in that department. We will eventually be getting a mill of our own and will definitely be looking into this company. 👍 Thanks for the review guys.
Thanks guys. I’m convinced Woodland does make good mills. I just happened to get the lemon. But once everything was fixed, the mill runs great. I doubt many people have had the same issues. Thanks for watching. Have a great day
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead Our pleasure! 👍
Got my 126 on Friday. Most of the hardware had a little card stating what it was. Like 10mm bolt 30mm long. It didn't say where it went or any corresponding number but it was better than nothing. I bought the woodlander trailer and extension kits. Lots of bolts and nuts. About 10 hours invested and the trailer and tracks are done. Onto the actual mill tomorrow.
That’s awesome Rick. Congrats on the mill. You will have a blast milling. I enjoy every day I get to mill. Where are you located?
Bellingham Washington
Great review! I hope to have the land to need one of those someday! 😊👍
We enjoy milling and supplying ourselves with lumber
Hey friend.. I hope you get your desired land too… some day 😉
@@mrs.creeksidemaples2866 thank you! We’ve been praying about it. 😊❤️
Customer service is second to none I had some of the same issues talked with woodland mills everything was explained and corrected
Right on. The same with me. They used me great. Thanks
Nice review! Ive learned that pressure treated lumber should also not be mixed with untreated lumber, due to the pressure treated holds water and the untreated will rot where they meet, because it dries up to slow.
Neve heard of that issue before. I’m a general contractor by trade and we have never had any issue putting treated and non-treated lumber together. Not saying it’s not true. We just have never heard of it or ever had any issues. Thanks though for the info. I’m going to look into that. Thanks for watching and have a great day.
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead I am into traditional log building in Norway, but I am just an amateur. The people I learn from are very knowledgeable about wood as a construction material. They say its a no no, but I dont have any direct experiences with it myself.
@@otija7017 I bet the homes you build are nice. I try and learn something new every day. This may just be what I learn today. Have a great day
That is an admirable attitude. Have a great day you too. Looking forward to seeing more videos from you.
Great Review Guys!
Thanks Eddie.
That black thermos with the manual.. I hoped had a bottle of single malt in it.
Lol. There are days…It makes a great thermos. Thanks for watching. Have a great day.
Come on Joannie let the camera stay on until tony say the filming is done 😂
Great video
Hello neighbour nice to see people from Nova Scotia I’m from the northern part
Nice to meet ya. Hope all is well.
Thinking on buying that mill
It’s a good mill. I have about 300 hours on mine now.
good job-good luck-- thank you!
Thanks for watching.
The only way I’d own another woodland mills saw is if they would make it look and operate like my wood mizer. I threw so many blades the 3yrs I owned it I was shell shocked. But tec support was awesome and Gordon was the man to get me back running for another couple days. That mill drove me crazy. Sorry woodland mills
I hear ya Travis. At first I was not a happy mill owner at all. But with Gordon’s help and some tinkering I managed to get the bugs worked out. I don’t have any issues now. Blades stay in pretty good. I do find after 3 sharpenings, the blades have a tendency to snap into. But over all I’m good with it. Woodmizer does make a great mill
Great review thanks
No problem. Thanks for watching. Have a great weekend. Cheers 🥂
Wow..... You guys will really enjoy the mill. ...much safer that making lumber with a chain saw.
Thanks Bruce. My shoulders just couldn’t take the chainsaw milling any longer. The mill will make it much better.
Awesome guys…New friend Here!
Thanks so very much. Appreciate the support
Thanks for sharing
You are very welcome and thanks for watching. Have a great day
I'm going to have to start a Lil Cat log grabber tractor fund for you.....Have a good evening on the Creekside Maples!!!
Thanks Sam, that would be awesome for sure. We do everything by hand without any heavy equipment. It is work for sure. My brother does come over and help some with his tractor but we sure do need one.
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead Well, Here it comes!!!!
Awesome! Can’t wait. That will be a great day for sure
Wow sincerely great stuff!!
Thanks so much for watching. Take care
Wow great review stay safe
Thanks Joe.
Howdy from BC I believe that log support you added the rebar tang to should be the other way around. So that the peak is inwards for more surface contact but mostly it's designed to contact the stop on the head to avoid the blade cutting into it. I ordered my hm130 the other day! :)
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it for sure. Can use all the help I can get. I ended up taking the blade guard right off. It was getting in the way on the real large logs. I haven't hit the log stop yet, fingers crossed I won't, . But I love milling. Got about 120 hours on the mill now. Worked out all the bugs and it's a good working mill now. Take care. Hope all is well in BC.
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead cool cool. Have you looked into a laser?
@@Cacheola I have. I want one but not sure which one is best. Especially where we live. It can get really cold. Any suggestions?
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead ua-cam.com/video/FPiF7CJSpzA/v-deo.html
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead Right on. I just ordered a HM130 max. Will be a fun spring here on Vancouver Island :)
I love your wife...constantly agreeing with you and providing unnecessary commentary that affirms what you say.
Yup. Machinery is all new to her. She does her best and stays very supportive.
'the color commentator' yaaaa, she kinda irked me, especially her being in the right speaker and him in the left, opposite of how they're standing lol
Hello Uncle Tony and Aunty Joanie! I'm adopting y'all whether you like it or not. ❤❤❤
No problem at all. Lol. We are all family here.
Hey 💕💕 We accept!!
Informative video.
Thank you. Appreciate it.
I’m sorry you’re having so much trouble! I have the same mill and didn’t have a single problem putting it together or using it. I’ve milled about 30 logs without any issues.
Thanks Shawn. It’s all good now. I have close to 300 hours on the mill now. Once I got everything fixed and replaced it works good.
Just subscribe to you I got AHM126 older 1 I bought it in 2015 And I haven't done nothing except maybe put fan built on it That's it Maybe a couple of barons that goes on the bottom by the blade other night it's been a good machine Now you said you gotta put your when you put your Blade on you gotta use 50 pounds Mine is only 32 pounds And I don't have no problem with it So again have a good day stay safestay healthy stay happy who cats another one
Well howdy and welcome to Creekside. I’ve got over 316 hours on my mill now and it’s working fine. Had to get the initial kinks worked out but good now. Have yourself a great weekend
Have you electrified your head lift if so how about doing a video on it. I added a digital scale to my HM 126 and I really like how much it aided in controlling my dimension on the lumber I was sawing
Thanks Cecil. I haven’t added a lift on my mill yet. I’m relocating it so it’s torn down right now. My goal is to add one when I put it back together. I do have the digital scale and love it.
good review
Thanks Ray. Appreciate it
Great video how wide is your base that you have the mill on
Thanks for watching my friend. The base is right around 32 or 34 inches. I can’t quite remember. I will measure it. What I did was measure from centre to centre of the rails and made sure that was what I made the base from centre to centre.
@Creekside Maples I'm just trying to figure out how wide I need to make my base for the track of the mill to ride on
How I wish they have distributor here in the Philippines
I bet. Having a mill is such a huge blessing here on the Homestead. Perhaps there is a company that might be able to ship you one. Take care.
Great review! I’m in Porters Lake, looking at woodland mills saw. My main concern is finding saw logs. Where do you get your logs? Cheers from Nova Scotia’s eastern shore!
Hey Dale. How are things in Porters lake? Hopefully all is well. Finding saw logs is the challenge for everyone right now unless you own a few hundred acres of good softwoods. I have had a good supply so far. Mainly because I clear building lots for people and negotiate the logs as part of the deal. So far it's been good. I grew up cutting lumber so it's no challenge for me to cut nice logs. I load them on my dump trailer and bring them to the mill. Thanks again for watching and welcome to Creekside.
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead Things are great here! I have 50 acres, so not a lot in terms of finding saw logs (lots of firewood)...and I have yet to get a trail cut to the back were the best trees are. Thanks for the fast response, much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, I live in PEI. Any problems inhaling sawust?
None at all.
If i can offer. U some advise turn ur log stops to the other side that way u only cut into bark on each log one time
Appreciate the good advice. Thanks for watching and have a great day.
Sorry you have had so many "little" things go wrong. I know myself it can be a little disheartening to make such a big and exciting purchase and have issues at all. hope the future treats you better. I was planning on buying that same mill, but when I was in the market they were on back for for months. thanks for the review
Thanks guys. All is well. Customer service was awesome and expedited everything. It’s just one of those crazy weird things I guess. I did expect a bit better quality control. I also asked them to send me a cover for free for all the problems, but no dice. Once I got everything replaced, the mill has run great. Thanks for watching.
You had a valid complaint about not labeling the bolts and other hardware. In my opinion their should be a sticker on every single part to make it as easy as possible to identify the various parts in assembly. I saw one video where a husband and wife took almost three days to assemble their mill with no missing parts. So it tells me assembly is not that easy.
Thanks. We got it done but it could have been much simpler with a few labels. Oh well, we got it. Thankful for good customer service. Thanks for watching and we appreciated the support for the channel. Have a great day. 😊
How similar is the woodland mills HM126, to the HM130MAX, could the same problems you've experienced on the HM126, be possible on the HM130MAX mill, I'm considering purchasing a HM130MAX 🤔
They are pretty similar. I think Woodland has solved a lot of the initial problems and improved in a lot of areas.
👍👍
hi there nice john
Hey there. Thanks for watching.
This review convinced me to not buy a woodland mill bandsaw...That amount of issues is not normal and shows that the company is not really doing much to correct the problems as I have seen other reviews that have the same issues...Not a good company to work with....nice customer service being good doesn't make the problems go away, or show a real concern by the company!
Thanks Ernie. It was a love hate relationship with the mill for the first while. I don’t think everyone had the same issues as I did but they were real issues I felt then and still do feel need to be addressed. The customer service was outstanding in resolving all issues, however, I think a lot could have been ruled out with better quality control. That being said, I have nearly 300 hours on my mill and it seems to be working pretty well. Always a few parts to watch for wear and tear such as bearings. Overall, it’s been a journey for sure. Thanks for watching and take care.
Wouldn't have one to many vids about all the issues with these things not worth the trouble
@@jimbauer6822 i hear ya. At the time it was what I could afford. It works very well now that I have all the bugs worked out. Have a great day
“Yes I Would”……while side to side head shake……mmm?
Yes, I know. I had mixed emotions for sure. I guess after we got everything worked out, it’s all good. Great customer service
Hour meter 150 hr oil changes after initial breakin is good
Thanks for watching friend.
Not the kind of stuff I wanted to hear. I have a 22 model which was delivered last fall and now have just over 40 hrs on it. Was very pleased with it so far but now I have lost some of my trust in it.
I hear you Glenn. I will say at the initial time of setting up my mill, I wasn't to pleased, but I have 154 hours on my mill now and it has worked like a charm since I got all the bugs ironed out. And Woodland Mills has the best customer service. If your mill is running good, I wouldn't worry about it at all. Thanks for watching and have a great day
It's possible to get the electric head for the HM126. call woodland.
Yes. I checked on it. It looks pretty good.
A good video however you are talking like woodland mills can actually do design changes, no they can't. They can recommend to the Chinese manufacturer to make a change but they are just an importer and supporter of the Chinese product, here in the USA. Not bashing your video, it was very good and an honest review.
I appreciate your thoughts. I thank you for keeping them kind. However, it was Woodland Mills who informed me that even though product is assembled in China, they still have creativity and design authority to modify and change whatever they want. In one conversation I had with Woodland and I will quote them, “ We are working on an upgrade for the handle and bearing that raises and lowers the head” end of quote. That is all I can comment on or allude to. I don’t know if that changes anything or not. I’m simply stating what I was told directly from the company. My initial hesitation in buying from Woodland was the Chinese assembly. They assured me that though it is assembled in China it is still very much a product made in Canada/ US. Hopefully, I was not mislead. Thanks again for the input.
I also salute you and thank you for your service. Thanks for keeping the world safer so we all can rest a little easier.
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead Thank you for the reply. I have been on the fence as to which saw to buy. At first glance of the WM video on their website it looked great. I have watched several videos on very satisfied customers too. I have also watched some folks that have had absolute nightmares of bolts not being tight etc. Everyone with problems did have one thing in common, the WM customer service is the best. I really want to get a mill for my woodworking and building projects. Most of my framing is done using big box store lumber because it is ready to go and won't change shape (unless you leave pressure treated out in the sun without it being installed). Anyway, thanks and good luck with you saw.
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead I was an unarmed civilian contractor for several years in both war zones, Afghanistan and most recently Iraq. I did overwatch on villages and troop movements. Upon my return to the States I found out I had prostate cancer. Following surgery and radiation I was in a bad car accident. Boy when it rains it pours. I just resigned from my position as the Reserve Training Sgt at the Sheriffs office after 13 years. So, after all of that and now being retired, what to do. Build a mancave of course. LOL... You can see in this video that I was still recovering from surgery during the build. ua-cam.com/video/GtgEwLQDvg4/v-deo.html
@@iROBODUDE good luck as well. Let me know which saw you get.
Woodland mills has an electric crank upgrade, don't know what it costs "/
They came out with it the end of 2022. I think it’s around $300.00
Considered this mill but so tired of sending my money to Communist China.
Sounds like the quality control for this company is still on the drawing board.
One should not have to redesign parts or guess at the assembly, wait for replacement parts or hope for an upgrade kit; life is too short.
Just a suggestion, but instead of just talking about something, show the actual part you are referring to. For example, when you talk about the blade tensioning, flip open the cover and point out exactly what you are talking about. The visual component would add a lot to your story.
Appreciate the brutal honest evaluation.
Thanks. Appreciate the comments. And the critique as well. We always welcome ways to improve. I think just about every thing is being made somewhere outside the country. Quality control has certainly been compromised. Have a great day
I like that they are made in Canada. everything here in the US is made in China
It’s hard to find anything anymore that isn’t made in China. Thanks for watching
Every review I've seen, and not just woodland, frontier, Norwood, all of them, and I've pretty much watched them all, say the same things! Part's we're missing, shipment was bad, customer service is bad, they all say the same things. Imma bout to pull the trigger on a mill, but I'm most definitely not dealing with a bunch of crap like this, and I'm going to make it clear with the sales people that I will not pay a ton of money for something, that I don't get half of, shipped to me. When you have to have the missing parts shipped, do you still pay for those shipping fees? Because it makes me wonder if it's not a deliberate act, just so they can make more money on shipping.
I agree. I wasn’t too pleased. However, they shipped everything to me expedited and free. And through in some other perks as well. I will say that when it comes to customer service there is none better than Woodland. Their absolute commitment to resolving all issues quickly was a huge help for me. They take your calls, get you your parts and warranty everything no question.
@@CreeksideMaplesHomestead that's great, and I think woodland is the only company that I've heard positive reviews about their customer service, and I think when I get ready to buy one, it's gonna be woodland just because of that. Thank you for the reply. Have a good day!
Doesn't she have a sandwich or something she can go make for you instead of repeating everything you say
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Video is to dark and needed close ups!
Thank you for the constructive criticism. We knew this video was to dark, but there was nothing else we could do to lighten it.it was a very dark day. But the other videos are lighter. And there are close ups in a lot of the videos. Just not this one. We welcome all advice that will help make our videos better as we are not professional videographers. We just try our best.
Sounds like a piece of crap.
For the first few days I thought the same thing. However, after 152 hours running time, it works well. I wish quality control was a bit better. But everything worked out. Thanks and have a great day. Welcome to the channel as well. Appreciate you stopping in.