Wow! I my reupload of this was reported so much yesterday it got taken down. CAS haters trying to get this guide removed at all costs. Don't let them win! Like, comment, share this video everywhere. Preadapt to that like button and join the Discord for more fun talks. 00:00 - Intro 01:19 - The Story Machine 02:10 - Ain Soph of Kabbalah 03:00 - The Hierophant Tarot Card 04:07 - All Existence 05:20 - Story Infects Overvoid 06:10 - Unified Field 07:03 - The Flaw is Story 07:47 - Meta 08:46 - Plane, Cube, Hypertime 11:00 - Overvoid Personified CAS 12:03 - CAS is all future canons too 12:40 - Copyright 14:36 - Embodiment of Stories 15:12 - Monitors didnt make CAS 15:45 - Lucifer cant handle CAS 16:30 - Shockwaves 17:58 - CAS vs Battles 20:50 - You missed the point 22:11 - Infinite Transcending 23:10 - Mandrakk consumes stories 24:49 - CAS is everyone 26:09 - CAS is The Source 29:15 - The Hyperstory 33:00 - Second opinion confirmation 35:18 - The Heat of 10 billion suns
So in short word C.A.S was intended to be that powerrful but because of copyright stuff and the lack of cooperation from other comic company make it it impossible to be that powerful but still stay as protector of creation with in Dc comics.
@thecomiccurator so that mean that expectations of C.A.S still live up till this day since it doesn't require Copyright ,I bring that up Because you said DC refused the complexity of the Meta of Grant Morrison.
@@Gradouthegoat29 Grant said this is based on a real science theory called M-theory, one of the aspects of this theory is that Bulk Space (a higher dimension) contains our world and also all fictional data. So this was relayed to the reader as Bleedspace. In the religion of the Kabbalah, the Ain Soph is the infinite potential of everything and anything that is, was, or ever will be. This is illustrated in a fun way for readers as the CAS. So its not a copyright thing because they were relaying how real science explains this and also illustrating what is in context supposed to be the Ain Soph. Science doesnt require copyright to say Bulk Space contains all fictions, it simply does because it also contains the real world. The people who wrote the Kabbalah did not need permission from other writers to say the Ain Soph is the totality of everything. And Grant doesnt need permission to illustrate these concepts from Science or the real religious ideas. hope that helps :)
the only reason why people say cas would lose to all these characters and downplay him is because the robot shell itself looks like superman and we all know how much power scalers, dragon ball fans or the entire nerd community altogether hates superman and when i mean hate him i mean HATE HIM, trust me I would know i'm friends with an avid superman hater who dabbled in power scaling himself "looking at you RubyKing" lol again people hate superman and that's why they're saying this, if it was something like cosmic armor batman or something he would most likely get a bunch of love and you would get no hate or at least get way more people backing your channel but sense it's superman that's not likely.
I don’t understand why anyone gets so mad- CAS is made of all fiction ever created. “Can X beat CAS” is a non-question, because whoever X is, they are PART of CAS’ ARMOR. It’s just that simple. Thumbs up, subbed + shared.
@thecomiccurator It doesn’t matter what one author once said, just as it doesn't matter what was said in Marvel or any other fictional universe. Many fanatics from other works also claim that their favorite universe contains all the fiction. Morrison can repeat this 100 times in 100 different words. DC doesn't go beyond its comics. Overvoid does not contain other works, no matter how you explain it. This cannot be used in a work, since the author's "sphere of influence" is limited to his own work (the Word of God ceases to work in the territory of another god). Even if they try to recreate the real world or the works of other authors themselves, they will be “worlds similar to the original, but having nothing to do with it.” There's probably a reason why people who say "work X contains all fiction" are ignored on all power scaling sites. At this stage, it will not be possible to take anything seriously if it is not clear. I went through this everywhere like reddit, quora, twitter, etc. with fanatics of Marvel, SCP, Suggsverse and many more. And I don't want to go through this again and repeat it. Nothing personal bro. It’s just that this topic has been the subject of debate in all works, regardless of which one we take. And I was in them all for many years. I just tired of this. Even if Morrison himself said it, it will be regarded and put on the same level when they said that the Marvel Omniverse contains all fiction. Who is Morrison to decide this? He's just a DC writer and nothing more. He and no one else can decide this. Marvel realized this a long time ago and therefore their comics and reference books now describe the Omniverse differently without "contain all the fiction". CAS is already a strong meta-narrative character without it.
@@nikitakobzar8321 the issue is that It dosent really matter. Even if we limit CAS to just DC, the fiction conected to DC or the posible realities that might not be part of DC but still aluded to be part of CAS as long as it dosent inflict the "being part of other creators" thing, how many characters can come close to this kind of level? In the end the issue is that they will just look to be toxic and look for ways to dissmiss those who disagree with them. Even if we cap CAS to that not only would be above the vast majority of characters but there is nothing wrong with that
@thecomiccurator yap, i get both postures. In the end while i get why people can be hesitant to agree what matters the most is both respect and being honest
@thecomiccurator i can understand It from outside viewers that have little knowledge about It, but its hard to believe people who suposedly read those say these things
Two questions: is Superman able to channel power from his own story? Is the story of Superman the strongest in fiction because it was chosen to pilot the cosmic armor?
I honestly don't understand DB Power Scalers... Since when the Kaiōshin Realm is conceptual? 🤣 It's already frustrating that they keep saying that any DB Universe is infinity times two cause they say that the Kaiōshin Realm is also infinite and as large as the Universe, now they even go saying that is conceptual? First of all, the Kaiōshin Realm is a tenth of the size of its respective Universe, as stated by Toriyama in an interview of Saikyō Jump of June 2014. Second, it's physical, that's why since the Baba Tournament we are shown that Martial Artists can also be sent there while maintaining their physical body, it's a physical place where you can either stay with or without your body. As far as I know, no one ever said it was a conceptual place. And, as of now, none of these two facts have been officially ret-conned. But I can't expect anything from people who power scale a series with no official multipliers and has to use contradicting guidebooks. And no, Kaiōken doesn't have an official multiplier, we only know that it can has multipliers of his base boost, but we never got any data on how much does Kaiōken boosts you without going ×2, ×3 or whatever. For who's asking, no, Kaiōken is not a ×2... otherwise Gokū wouldn't have a reason to use both Kaiōken and Kaiōken ×2 in the Saiyan Arc. And for who's asking about the fight with Ginyu and 180'000 battle power... Gokū never stated what level of Kaiōken he was using, also we have no idea what battle power Gokū posses, we only have a guess estimate from Ginyu who estimates his power to be of 60'000 as is and can be pushed up to 85'000. Other than that, the various guidebooks give different battle powers to any character and the same can be said about the transformations, the Super Saiyan multipliers are made up, Toriyama never gave an official one because there isn't one, Super Saiyan can become stronger the more you master it, that's what Stage 4 is, a more stable and more powerful version of the original transformation (Stage 1) and Toriyama even said that complete mastery of it can give even more power than SS2 and 3 without loosing any stamina, something that is somewhat proven correct when Trunks can close the gap between his Super Saiyan 2 and Gokū's Super Saiyan 3.
They read the conceptual editions of the manga in wich it is all explained. We mere mortals are just unable to reach the levels of enlightning and knowledge power scalers are capeable of Dont think about it, we should just preach about it and share their lessons since its the only truth
@Dario-uj6qo I swear, it gets worse every time... I even stumbled across some people that say that Super Saiyan God is like 20 or 30+ millions multiplier... we went from SS3 being 8 times Super Saiyan, to God being dozens of millions from base... people have to start thinking with their brain, if the jump from 3 to god is so massive, why would anyone waste time turning Super Saiyan when God and Blue are so much stronger? How can Goku keep up with Hit and even punching him in the face punched in the face while in base or Super Saiyan, if there are millions of points of difference? And if it is because Gokū made ritual, how come Vegeta is equal to him without ritual? And if Gokū is 30+ millions stronger after absorbing the power of the ritual within himself, when he turns god does he get another 30+ millions boost?
Oh, right, before I forget, we do have a couple of official multipliers, Ōzaru makes you ten times stronger, I forgot, and Freeza going from the first to the second form becomes twice as strong, there.
He doesn’t debate like regular debaters. He is more of an educator. The only time debate arises, is when someone spreads false information about him or completely lies about the contents of authors. He has gone far long into the debating community. Copyright doesn’t invalidate the context of plane time. It's only used when people go & talk completely out of context for the purpose of downplaying the character.
@@asif_abid Hello. Michael can't answer and so I decided to pass this question on to you and maybe you can pass it on to Michael. My friend from Reddit (who understands DC cosmology and religion better than me) gave his answer about the Presence: As I've already been through quite a few times now, the Presence = the Source is something that's been implied since the beginning, continued throughout comics history and confirmed in Metal. The Presence faking his death or appearing dead to the mistake of others is also extremely common. It's also happened in the Spectre run by John Ostrander and Tom Mandrake. Jim was unsure despite Fr. Kramer's reassurance that it's really impossible, but we get clear confirmation which at the end and subsequent stories. Either way as I said, Vertigo is often treated as a separate continuity or Earth multiple times and even ignored. The true Presence/Source is thus above the fictions of the Omniverse, He simply allows versions of Himself to manifest according to the stories to exist within. Again not to dissimilar to Darkseid, whose catchphrase "Darkseid is" and nature in Final Crisis is meant to be a dark inversion of Judeo-Christian theology. In a similar way to how Vampires are actually rooted in ideas about the anti-Christ. In any case, the Presence is not a simple old god of the third world (the pagan gods of each world) or second world (the predecessors of the new gods of the fourth). He is the Source, the supreme being of the First World. But really what the other worlds mean do vary per writer (Evanier, Byrne, Simonson) and Kirby himself never explained it from an in-universe perspective at least. On the phrase "but we get clear confirmation which at the end" there was a link to a page that showed a cemetery and a grave that had the words "James Corrigan, Servant of God" on it and at the end it said "Rest in Peace."
@thecomiccurator It doesn’t matter what one author once said, just as it doesn't matter what was said in Marvel or any other fictional universe. Many fanatics from other works also claim that their favorite universe contains all the fiction. Morrison can repeat this 100 times in 100 different words. DC doesn't go beyond its comics. Overvoid does not contain other works, no matter how you explain it. This cannot be used in a work, since the author's "sphere of influence" is limited to his own work (the Word of God ceases to work in the territory of another God). Even if they try to recreate the real world or the works of other authors themselves, they will be “worlds similar to the original, but having nothing to do with it.” There's probably a reason why people who say "work X contains all fiction" are ignored on all power scaling sites. At this stage, it will not be possible to take anything seriously if it is not clear. I went through this everywhere like reddit, quora, twitter, etc. with fanatics of Marvel, SCP, Suggsverse and many more. And I don't want to go through this again and repeat it. Nothing personal bro. It’s just that this topic has been the subject of debate in all works, regardless of which one we take. And I was in them all for many years. I just tired of this. Even if Morrison himself said it, it will be regarded and put on the same level when they said that the Marvel Omniverse contains all fiction. Who is Morrison to decide this? He's just one writer and nothing more. He and no one else can decide this. Marvel realized this a long time ago and therefore their comics and reference books now describe the Omniverse differently without "contains all fiction". CAS is already a strong meta-narrative character without it.
@@nikitakobzar8321 Still roaming with copyright blah blah The point here is you think all authors story has same context about what they say regarding a story is absurd.
Wow! I my reupload of this was reported so much yesterday it got taken down. CAS haters trying to get this guide removed at all costs. Don't let them win! Like, comment, share this video everywhere. Preadapt to that like button and join the Discord for more fun talks.
00:00 - Intro
01:19 - The Story Machine
02:10 - Ain Soph of Kabbalah
03:00 - The Hierophant Tarot Card
04:07 - All Existence
05:20 - Story Infects Overvoid
06:10 - Unified Field
07:03 - The Flaw is Story
07:47 - Meta
08:46 - Plane, Cube, Hypertime
11:00 - Overvoid Personified CAS
12:03 - CAS is all future canons too
12:40 - Copyright
14:36 - Embodiment of Stories
15:12 - Monitors didnt make CAS
15:45 - Lucifer cant handle CAS
16:30 - Shockwaves
17:58 - CAS vs Battles
20:50 - You missed the point
22:11 - Infinite Transcending
23:10 - Mandrakk consumes stories
24:49 - CAS is everyone
26:09 - CAS is The Source
29:15 - The Hyperstory
33:00 - Second opinion confirmation
35:18 - The Heat of 10 billion suns
Thank you with this video I can now win any disputes
Is cas actually superman or story of superman?
@@IvanJankukovic-tu3cg Neither
@thecomiccuratorhe is not story of superman?
@@IvanJankukovic-tu3cg Its all explained in the video, my friend
Let Support this and share it to seeing the true dc scaling
So in short word C.A.S was intended to be that powerrful but because of copyright stuff and the lack of cooperation from other comic company make it it impossible to be that powerful but still stay as protector of creation with in Dc comics.
@thecomiccurator so that mean that expectations of C.A.S still live up till this day since it doesn't require Copyright ,I bring that up Because you said DC refused the complexity of the Meta of Grant Morrison.
@@Gradouthegoat29 Grant said this is based on a real science theory called M-theory, one of the aspects of this theory is that Bulk Space (a higher dimension) contains our world and also all fictional data. So this was relayed to the reader as Bleedspace.
In the religion of the Kabbalah, the Ain Soph is the infinite potential of everything and anything that is, was, or ever will be. This is illustrated in a fun way for readers as the CAS.
So its not a copyright thing because they were relaying how real science explains this and also illustrating what is in context supposed to be the Ain Soph.
Science doesnt require copyright to say Bulk Space contains all fictions, it simply does because it also contains the real world.
The people who wrote the Kabbalah did not need permission from other writers to say the Ain Soph is the totality of everything.
And Grant doesnt need permission to illustrate these concepts from Science or the real religious ideas.
hope that helps :)
@thecomiccurator so C.A.S is basically the Ain soph of fiction illustrated in bleed space ( aka the real world) that sound crazy.
I was wondering if I was crazy or not because I knew this video existed
The Cas on page is wild that's a stretch lol but yeah everything else I agree
Never give up MJ.
Could you make an updated verson on "Where does Superman scale" part 2?
I support you
the only reason why people say cas would lose to all these characters and downplay him is because the robot shell itself looks like superman and we all know how much power scalers, dragon ball fans or the entire nerd community altogether hates superman and when i mean hate him i mean HATE HIM, trust me I would know i'm friends with an avid superman hater who dabbled in power scaling himself "looking at you RubyKing" lol
again people hate superman and that's why they're saying this, if it was something like cosmic armor batman or something he would most likely get a bunch of love and you would get no hate or at least get way more people backing your channel but sense it's superman that's not likely.
I don’t understand why anyone gets so mad- CAS is made of all fiction ever created. “Can X beat CAS” is a non-question, because whoever X is, they are PART of CAS’ ARMOR. It’s just that simple.
Thumbs up, subbed + shared.
@thecomiccurator It doesn’t matter what one author once said, just as it doesn't matter what was said in Marvel or any other fictional universe. Many fanatics from other works also claim that their favorite universe contains all the fiction.
Morrison can repeat this 100 times in 100 different words. DC doesn't go beyond its comics. Overvoid does not contain other works, no matter how you explain it.
This cannot be used in a work, since the author's "sphere of influence" is limited to his own work (the Word of God ceases to work in the territory of another god). Even if they try to recreate the real world or the works of other authors themselves, they will be “worlds similar to the original, but having nothing to do with it.”
There's probably a reason why people who say "work X contains all fiction" are ignored on all power scaling sites.
At this stage, it will not be possible to take anything seriously if it is not clear.
I went through this everywhere like reddit, quora, twitter, etc. with fanatics of Marvel, SCP, Suggsverse and many more. And I don't want to go through this again and repeat it.
Nothing personal bro. It’s just that this topic has been the subject of debate in all works, regardless of which one we take. And I was in them all for many years. I just tired of this.
Even if Morrison himself said it, it will be regarded and put on the same level when they said that the Marvel Omniverse contains all fiction.
Who is Morrison to decide this? He's just a DC writer and nothing more. He and no one else can decide this.
Marvel realized this a long time ago and therefore their comics and reference books now describe the Omniverse differently without "contain all the fiction". CAS is already a strong meta-narrative character without it.
@@nikitakobzar8321 the issue is that It dosent really matter. Even if we limit CAS to just DC, the fiction conected to DC or the posible realities that might not be part of DC but still aluded to be part of CAS as long as it dosent inflict the "being part of other creators" thing, how many characters can come close to this kind of level? In the end the issue is that they will just look to be toxic and look for ways to dissmiss those who disagree with them. Even if we cap CAS to that not only would be above the vast majority of characters but there is nothing wrong with that
@thecomiccurator yap, i get both postures. In the end while i get why people can be hesitant to agree what matters the most is both respect and being honest
@thecomiccurator power scalers: you should clearly make your research, we put a lot of effort into this
Also scalers:
@thecomiccurator i can understand It from outside viewers that have little knowledge about It, but its hard to believe people who suposedly read those say these things
Two questions: is Superman able to channel power from his own story?
Is the story of Superman the strongest in fiction because it was chosen to pilot the cosmic armor?
I honestly don't understand DB Power Scalers... Since when the Kaiōshin Realm is conceptual? 🤣 It's already frustrating that they keep saying that any DB Universe is infinity times two cause they say that the Kaiōshin Realm is also infinite and as large as the Universe, now they even go saying that is conceptual?
First of all, the Kaiōshin Realm is a tenth of the size of its respective Universe, as stated by Toriyama in an interview of Saikyō Jump of June 2014.
Second, it's physical, that's why since the Baba Tournament we are shown that Martial Artists can also be sent there while maintaining their physical body, it's a physical place where you can either stay with or without your body. As far as I know, no one ever said it was a conceptual place.
And, as of now, none of these two facts have been officially ret-conned.
But I can't expect anything from people who power scale a series with no official multipliers and has to use contradicting guidebooks.
And no, Kaiōken doesn't have an official multiplier, we only know that it can has multipliers of his base boost, but we never got any data on how much does Kaiōken boosts you without going ×2, ×3 or whatever. For who's asking, no, Kaiōken is not a ×2... otherwise Gokū wouldn't have a reason to use both Kaiōken and Kaiōken ×2 in the Saiyan Arc.
And for who's asking about the fight with Ginyu and 180'000 battle power... Gokū never stated what level of Kaiōken he was using, also we have no idea what battle power Gokū posses, we only have a guess estimate from Ginyu who estimates his power to be of 60'000 as is and can be pushed up to 85'000. Other than that, the various guidebooks give different battle powers to any character and the same can be said about the transformations, the Super Saiyan multipliers are made up, Toriyama never gave an official one because there isn't one, Super Saiyan can become stronger the more you master it, that's what Stage 4 is, a more stable and more powerful version of the original transformation (Stage 1) and Toriyama even said that complete mastery of it can give even more power than SS2 and 3 without loosing any stamina, something that is somewhat proven correct when Trunks can close the gap between his Super Saiyan 2 and Gokū's Super Saiyan 3.
They read the conceptual editions of the manga in wich it is all explained. We mere mortals are just unable to reach the levels of enlightning and knowledge power scalers are capeable of
Dont think about it, we should just preach about it and share their lessons since its the only truth
@Dario-uj6qo I swear, it gets worse every time... I even stumbled across some people that say that Super Saiyan God is like 20 or 30+ millions multiplier... we went from SS3 being 8 times Super Saiyan, to God being dozens of millions from base... people have to start thinking with their brain, if the jump from 3 to god is so massive, why would anyone waste time turning Super Saiyan when God and Blue are so much stronger? How can Goku keep up with Hit and even punching him in the face punched in the face while in base or Super Saiyan, if there are millions of points of difference?
And if it is because Gokū made ritual, how come Vegeta is equal to him without ritual?
And if Gokū is 30+ millions stronger after absorbing the power of the ritual within himself, when he turns god does he get another 30+ millions boost?
Oh, right, before I forget, we do have a couple of official multipliers, Ōzaru makes you ten times stronger, I forgot, and Freeza going from the first to the second form becomes twice as strong, there.
@@diddly-squat9332 they are so obssesed with power they just make things up and ignore reality and common sense
so how do you debate someone saying that plane time and staments of such are not valid due to copyright laws?
He doesn’t debate like regular debaters. He is more of an educator. The only time debate arises, is when someone spreads false information about him or completely lies about the contents of authors. He has gone far long into the debating community.
Copyright doesn’t invalidate the context of plane time. It's only used when people go & talk completely out of context for the purpose of downplaying the character.
@@asif_abid Hello. Michael can't answer and so I decided to pass this question on to you and maybe you can pass it on to Michael.
My friend from Reddit (who understands DC cosmology and religion better than me) gave his answer about the Presence:
As I've already been through quite a few times now, the Presence = the Source is something that's been implied since the beginning, continued throughout comics history and confirmed in Metal. The Presence faking his death or appearing dead to the mistake of others is also extremely common. It's also happened in the Spectre run by John Ostrander and Tom Mandrake. Jim was unsure despite Fr. Kramer's reassurance that it's really impossible, but we get clear confirmation which at the end and subsequent stories. Either way as I said, Vertigo is often treated as a separate continuity or Earth multiple times and even ignored.
The true Presence/Source is thus above the fictions of the Omniverse, He simply allows versions of Himself to manifest according to the stories to exist within. Again not to dissimilar to Darkseid, whose catchphrase "Darkseid is" and nature in Final Crisis is meant to be a dark inversion of Judeo-Christian theology. In a similar way to how Vampires are actually rooted in ideas about the anti-Christ. In any case, the Presence is not a simple old god of the third world (the pagan gods of each world) or second world (the predecessors of the new gods of the fourth). He is the Source, the supreme being of the First World. But really what the other worlds mean do vary per writer (Evanier, Byrne, Simonson) and Kirby himself never explained it from an in-universe perspective at least.
On the phrase "but we get clear confirmation which at the end" there was a link to a page that showed a cemetery and a grave that had the words "James Corrigan, Servant of God" on it and at the end it said "Rest in Peace."
@thecomiccurator It doesn’t matter what one author once said, just as it doesn't matter what was said in Marvel or any other fictional universe. Many fanatics from other works also claim that their favorite universe contains all the fiction.
Morrison can repeat this 100 times in 100 different words. DC doesn't go beyond its comics. Overvoid does not contain other works, no matter how you explain it.
This cannot be used in a work, since the author's "sphere of influence" is limited to his own work (the Word of God ceases to work in the territory of another God). Even if they try to recreate the real world or the works of other authors themselves, they will be “worlds similar to the original, but having nothing to do with it.”
There's probably a reason why people who say "work X contains all fiction" are ignored on all power scaling sites.
At this stage, it will not be possible to take anything seriously if it is not clear.
I went through this everywhere like reddit, quora, twitter, etc. with fanatics of Marvel, SCP, Suggsverse and many more. And I don't want to go through this again and repeat it.
Nothing personal bro. It’s just that this topic has been the subject of debate in all works, regardless of which one we take. And I was in them all for many years. I just tired of this.
Even if Morrison himself said it, it will be regarded and put on the same level when they said that the Marvel Omniverse contains all fiction. Who is Morrison to decide this? He's just one writer and nothing more. He and no one else can decide this.
Marvel realized this a long time ago and therefore their comics and reference books now describe the Omniverse differently without "contains all fiction". CAS is already a strong meta-narrative character without it.
@thecomiccurator Yes, the teacher needs copyright authorization from Crisis Squad.
@@nikitakobzar8321 Still roaming with copyright blah blah
The point here is you think all authors story has same context about what they say regarding a story is absurd.
You think hoi vision stand a chance with cas ?
@thecomiccuratordang never know that why he so strong
I wonder if my other acount was reported too, i cant read the coment i made from this one
Superman Cas solos
I would tell you to give up but I got a can they beat Goku tho? fanboy to admit Goku can indeed be beat.