2020 Mercedes AMG GT-R vs. Corvette C7 Z06 | American Muscle vs. German Engineering

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
    @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому +100

    In the 35-140MPH roll, the Z06 had a gearing advantage because 1st gear tops out a little over 60MPH. That gave it the ability to pull ahead initially. We did a bunch of runs in 2nd gear but it was just way out of the powerband. Kudos to the Z06 driver, Ron, who did a fantastic job representing the Corvette.

    • @paulreyes1496
      @paulreyes1496 4 роки тому +5

      C6 ZR1 vs Huracan LP610-4 Coupe? C7 Z06 is slower than C6 ZR1, and since the C7 Z06 beated Huracan in your channel, it will be interesting to see the difference between them

    • @jeffreyepstein6823
      @jeffreyepstein6823 4 роки тому

      Can u do viper srt gen v or gts Or TA vs the c7 zo6. Both manual .

    • @MrDBramer1
      @MrDBramer1 4 роки тому +6

      Since the corvette was manual it would’ve been more fair if you would’ve used a manual AMG. Oh wait.... it’s a pussy car

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому +2

      @Paul Reyes Sure, if someone can donate a stock C6ZR1, I would love to do that video. Based on my reading, C6ZR1s run low 7 second 60-130 times. I ran a 7.65 in my C7Z A8. For the Huracan race, I had lighter wheels by a 25-30# which I would say put me in the 7.4 range. My guess is the C6ZR1 with a good driver would put slightly more on a stock Huracan.

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому +2

      @Jeffrey Epstein You read my mind. That video is coming in a few weeks!

  • @Just_Manny305
    @Just_Manny305 4 роки тому +205

    Unfortunately I think your shifting is what lost the race. No disrespect to you, but at this point Autos are so much better at shifting than we'll ever be.

    • @andrepowell3809
      @andrepowell3809 4 роки тому +11

      Should have keeped the automatic

    • @s.sanichar1921
      @s.sanichar1921 4 роки тому +13

      @@andrepowell3809 This race is in a controlled environment on a drag strip. On the street no one's counting 0.2 secs with a stop watch; what counts is the enjoyment you get from driving the car and for that he was right in getting the manual

    • @tylercouture216
      @tylercouture216 4 роки тому +1

      You should hush if you are just a garbage gear banger

    • @lecoureurdesbois86
      @lecoureurdesbois86 4 роки тому +19

      Autos are faster, it's just obvious, but to me an automatic even a Ferrari dct will never reach the enjoyment of a manual

    • @blairbrown4812
      @blairbrown4812 4 роки тому +5

      Thank you for speaking an unpopular truth. Even some of the Old Guard are converts to the Gospel of the Automatic.

  • @chrispewkreme
    @chrispewkreme 4 роки тому +36

    Probably should’ve mentioned the torque figures along with horsepower.
    That AMG is absolutely killer

  • @jorgeo4164
    @jorgeo4164 4 роки тому +78

    There's no doubt your sold auto would've done much better. A manual against a dual clutch, forget it, the extra HP almost isn't even a factor.

    • @Unxpekted
      @Unxpekted 2 роки тому +2

      The AMG would still win

    • @BosaFTW
      @BosaFTW 2 роки тому +3

      @@Unxpekted My 2019 Auto C7 Z06 does 6,27 sec. 100-200 stock.
      Much much faster than this Z06 in this video and I have already raced a AMG GTR and also a Stock Nissan GTR. Both are faster from a standing start but from a roll I eat them alive.
      Nissan does around 7.2 sec stock 100-200 and AMG GTR is almost the same.
      The manual C7 Z06 in this video is pretty slow tbh

    • @Goczku
      @Goczku Рік тому

      @@BosaFTWindeed

    • @tyrellrivers339
      @tyrellrivers339 8 місяців тому

      Right like wtf get those manuals out of here this dude making the zo6 look bad smh lol I'm gonna get a almost exact car but it's a manual 😂 bro someone should tell him it's not even close the same car then love the amg gtr 😂

  • @Brandon-nz7pd
    @Brandon-nz7pd 4 роки тому +34

    The Mercedes GT is my favorite car. But that Z06 sounds soooo nice on the downshift.

  • @PetOwner678
    @PetOwner678 4 роки тому +46

    The Stage 2 aero is what killed it ,, the rear wicker bills works like parachutes

    • @troypower4733
      @troypower4733 4 роки тому +3

      Correct

    • @beans301
      @beans301 4 роки тому +2

      This.... one of the first things i thought

    • @ZZLZ-cj8tl
      @ZZLZ-cj8tl 4 роки тому +2

      Yes you hit the bullseye! If you want to track your Z06 get the 3LZ with the larger splitter and wings. But if you what to fly straight get the lighter vehicle 1LZ big difference.

    • @David-jh8mp
      @David-jh8mp 4 роки тому +3

      That and the manual transmission killed it.

    • @edennard1
      @edennard1 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly

  • @JDMTurbonetics
    @JDMTurbonetics 4 роки тому +20

    Shifting seemed on point from your end, but there’s no beating a fast auto from the AMG.

  • @410jman23
    @410jman23 4 роки тому +39

    He lost me soon as he said manual, I was like he's gonna lose... those days are over. You buy them for fun factor but for straight drag racing is this light, not really a good comparison even with perfect driver that's just not realistic.
    The real reason people will always purchase the vette's though, boils down to it's aftermarket tuning stages and ease there of. Cheaper to purchase, cheaper to maintain, cheaper to moddify in a sense, easier to make faster.

    • @Liberty-Works1111
      @Liberty-Works1111 4 роки тому

      Well said... With dual clutch plates and the speed wizardry that goes into these vehicles, a stick is not even a relevant comparison anymore and is tantamount to "click bate" ... If you are still on the fence between manual & paddle shifts of today... You have been on the fence a decade too long & should get real... Cant afford to get the right vehicle for comparison? Wait until you can & make the video... Cars in this class need to be as apples to apples as possible...Anything else is leaving out what the majority of Vette owners bought...An auto...

    • @SVW1976
      @SVW1976 4 роки тому +1

      Just watch the video. It's plain as day. As soon as the Vette has to shift it's all over

    • @Liberty-Works1111
      @Liberty-Works1111 4 роки тому +1

      @@SVW1976 Agreed... America is following in transmission technology & traction... Were magnificent on power delivery but half cant put the power down and the other half (stock) cant stay in the torque band with any authority... This said though, the C8 seems to do a pretty damn good job... GM getting it?

    • @SVW1976
      @SVW1976 4 роки тому

      @@Liberty-Works1111 I dunno. I really need to see the Vette with an automatic run that Merc.

    • @Liberty-Works1111
      @Liberty-Works1111 4 роки тому +1

      @@SVW1976 Me too but easy enough to find the 0-60 & 1/4 mile times on both if someone wanted to put the time in to back into it & id be willing to bet the Vette still looses... I cant tell you where I saw it because I watch so much shit but I remember a manual & auto going at it and of course the manual lost but the auto didn't beat it with the authority the Merc did... I bet it would be close but again, the Germans dont take a back seat to anyone with their transmissions & traction control systems...

  • @AtomicZ06
    @AtomicZ06 4 роки тому +33

    Auto would do better. No doubt.

  • @castifystudio
    @castifystudio 4 роки тому +19

    Every shots you guys took, all seems very professional! Keep creating such a cool cinematic video, cheers!

  • @justinsteinley4093
    @justinsteinley4093 4 роки тому +39

    I love the quality of the video, I also love the fact that all comparisons with the Z06 are against cars that cost 3x as much, shed 200k for comparable performance, yes please. Love my 19 Z06

    • @ZZLZ-cj8tl
      @ZZLZ-cj8tl 4 роки тому +2

      3x as much ? my stock Z06 1LZ A8 try 12x as much. I'm loving it.

    • @greenwhale6191
      @greenwhale6191 4 роки тому +11

      Corvettes just aren't as cool. The mercedes is sick.

    • @Gnomosfortheoffice
      @Gnomosfortheoffice 4 роки тому +14

      @@greenwhale6191 Must be cool to spend most of the ownership period waiting for your car to return from the service centre.

    • @greenwhale6191
      @greenwhale6191 4 роки тому +4

      @Tom Wetz owned 2 amg gt (not a gtr, but a gts and gtc) no service issues whatsoever. Only people complaining about service are the people who never owned one. Stop talking out of your ass about something you have 0 experience with.

    • @FrozenPantiezzz
      @FrozenPantiezzz 4 роки тому +3

      @@greenwhale6191 if u say a mercades is cooler than a vette ur on CRACK lol

  • @daves5765
    @daves5765 4 роки тому +122

    Every time you shifted, you fell back. If you still had your A8 I think you would have taken the AMG.

    • @Icygt500
      @Icygt500 4 роки тому +12

      Exactly!!

    • @stopthinkact7204
      @stopthinkact7204 4 роки тому +9

      Talk is cheap...the Merc murdered the Z06 hard...check time stamp 3:33...

    • @daves5765
      @daves5765 4 роки тому +32

      @@stopthinkact7204 my talk isn't cheap. I'm talking from experience. I own an 8 speed c7 zo6 with a few tweaks, it's fast. Really fast and so is the 8 speed paddle shift tranny. With these high horsepower cars, you can lose a drag race by a lot in the shifting alone. With the 8 speed auto/paddle shift, there is no delay in acceleration during shifts... None. And since the shifting is lightning fast and with the better gear ratios of the 8 speed, it's just faster than the manual in a drag race. The numbers don't lie. Look at the quarter mile and zero to 60 times compared between the manual and the 8 speed auto. Besides, the c7 zo6 can be easily tuned to upwards of 850 hp or more for a reasonable investment. It's no joke. Besides, after a couple more runs, I bet that Mercedes would have started breaking down.

    • @stopthinkact7204
      @stopthinkact7204 4 роки тому +4

      Dave S okay maybe the problem is I feel like you are trash talking because you say it will break down but clearly from facts it did not break down...maybe you can’t accept the current reality that’s why you have to say things like “start breaking down”...you reality does not match the truth...speak facts that you can prove...by actually showing a race that you are talking about...you are all talk...even when facts show you the truth...

    • @stopthinkact7204
      @stopthinkact7204 4 роки тому +5

      You know what the vette lost and that’s all that matters...next race!!!

  • @JL-qf5dc
    @JL-qf5dc 4 роки тому +94

    The result might be different if race with your old auto Z06

    • @shadowrambo117
      @shadowrambo117 4 роки тому +5

      Merc dragged the vette the whole way, it’d be less of a gap maybe

    • @JuanAntonio-pl4ol
      @JuanAntonio-pl4ol 4 роки тому +2

      The A8 would beat it no doubt

    • @User-th6yy
      @User-th6yy 4 роки тому +11

      The corvette has 660hp while the amg gtr has 580, the c7 Z can run sub 11 seconds on the quarter mile while the amg gtr can't do better than 11 flat.
      The dual clutch transmission is way faster than the a8 on the vette. It's engineered better but costs more.
      I'd say for it's price the vette wins, for the amg gtr money you'll get a c7 zr1 which undoubtedly beats it

    • @josemartinez6444
      @josemartinez6444 4 роки тому

      @@User-th6yy
      AMG GTR does 11.0 secs in unprepped surface, the C7 does 10.9-10.8 in prepped drag strip

    • @iLLGT2
      @iLLGT2 4 роки тому

      auto may shift faster than manual but with a hero driver manual car losing less drive train power to the ground manual from a roll is faster , and thats from verified vbox runs on the net

  • @susanchan1425
    @susanchan1425 4 роки тому +32

    My money was definitely on the AMG GTR winning, great looking car.

    • @ajd0101
      @ajd0101 4 роки тому +3

      My 05 e class standard model can easily keep up with new mustang's, cameros, Subaru's, hondas etc with mods or not.

    • @GG_Jared
      @GG_Jared 4 роки тому

      But it sounds like shit

    • @ajinkyathorat7502
      @ajinkyathorat7502 3 роки тому

      @@GG_Jared
      Straight pipe can fix that.

    • @SalihDeLon
      @SalihDeLon 3 роки тому

      @@ajd0101 Can believe that, i have a 03 E class W211 and still runs like it's new

  • @WaveManMike
    @WaveManMike 4 роки тому +1

    Please redo this with an automatic

  • @HD-nm1iv
    @HD-nm1iv 4 роки тому +26

    The automatics faster

    • @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
      @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 4 роки тому

      You mean quicker. Faster or fast is a reference to two things: Its 1/4 mi trap speed or top speed not acceleration.

    • @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
      @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 4 роки тому

      Autos are a bit quicker to 60 but above that a very good stick shift jockey and good gearing will pull ahead.

  • @BadazzShovelhead
    @BadazzShovelhead 2 роки тому +3

    Having owned both there is no comparison for me. The Z06 was the car I dreamed of owning I was obsessed with Vettes since the day my older cousin took me out in his split window. However, I bought mine, paid the mark up price gladly. Within 10K miles I was so disappointed in the build quality, the interior, panel gaps, the creaks and groans it made while still virtually brand new. I sold it- quickly- As they say never meet your heroes. I got the 2020 AMG GTR and it was the best upgrade ever. Cost more but the price doesn't reflect how much better that car is build quality wise. Technically the AMG GTR is a mid engined car as the motor sits well behind the front axle in the middle of the car. I have stage 3 in the AMG it is a beast. I'd have preferred to see the difference on a race course.

  • @blairbrown4812
    @blairbrown4812 4 роки тому +7

    It is gratifying to see someone under the age of forty appreciating a true American classic like the 'Vette.

  • @NoName-qp1op
    @NoName-qp1op 4 роки тому +13

    I love your work man. Top! The mercs are just underestimatet in their powernumbers

  • @andrewscatpack3128
    @andrewscatpack3128 4 роки тому +41

    Wish we could of seen how your old C7 would do against the GT-R. Thanks for sharing

    • @Aukrenchi17
      @Aukrenchi17 4 роки тому +2

      Still would have been an asswhooping

    • @hugocervantes3517
      @hugocervantes3517 4 роки тому

      @@Aukrenchi17 idk about that I feel like it would of been a close race

    • @Aukrenchi17
      @Aukrenchi17 4 роки тому +2

      @@hugocervantes3517 ya right

  • @tucsonjr7868
    @tucsonjr7868 4 роки тому +18

    Rematch against the 2019 zr1

    • @liverpoolmessi
      @liverpoolmessi 4 роки тому +4

      with 2021 AMG GTR Blasck Series with stock 720 hp. Corvette is faster only when have 150-200 hp more than opponents.

    • @DigitalSubset
      @DigitalSubset 4 роки тому +4

      You don’t even need a zr1 to beat the amg. You just need an automatic one

    • @ZZLZ-cj8tl
      @ZZLZ-cj8tl 4 роки тому

      All you need is the real thing again 2019 Z06 1LZ automatic the lightest of the Z06 family. You don't use the ZR1 it is a track version model only. Also the Camaro ZL1 1LE and Dodge Viper ACR are too over weight and not able to drag race or go at a rolling start. Too much weight and tall wings and spoilers. I know because I owned some. 3900 pound to 4200 pounds. The Camaro ran a 11.4 the Dodge Viper ACR ran 11.4 the ZR1 the best was 10.9. Not enough.

    • @raulsanchezjr4048
      @raulsanchezjr4048 5 місяців тому

      ​@@DigitalSubsetSorry to tell you this my dude but not even the auto can touch the GT or GTR. I sold my 2019 Z06 and bought a 2021 AMG GTS just for the fact it's a better car bar none! Intake and tune 800rwhp! If you have a GTR... easy 900-1000hp

    • @DigitalSubset
      @DigitalSubset 5 місяців тому

      @@raulsanchezjr4048 You sold your zo6 because you prefer a Mercedes. That’s not an issue. It’s more luxurious and has lots of features that make it a more comfortable ride. The truth is brother, that amg doesn’t have the full potential that the lt4 engine has as far as power BUT I definitely understand why someone would choose it over a c7 zo6.

  • @TheRobSJ
    @TheRobSJ 4 роки тому +4

    Yes the manual is more fun and engaging, but if you want better numbers with the C7 (all models) you’d better just go with the 8AT.
    Oh and 100 octane fuel in the supercharged ones. If I run only California 91 with a bottle of Boostane in the tank, it feels like it holds something back on a long pull. If I run a full tank of 100, it’s all there.

  • @alexanderalexander6169
    @alexanderalexander6169 4 роки тому +8

    The minute you said I had to use a 7speed instead of my auto.....Video became pointless.
    Nice cars tho.

    • @dallycurtis4532
      @dallycurtis4532 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly what i said...and watched anyways and every shift the z dropped back a little. A8 would have held and taken it.

    • @daves5765
      @daves5765 4 роки тому +1

      And exactly my point too. In reality, the c7 zo6 is lighter, more hp AND torque, lower 0-60 times and simply faster than the Mercedes. The race was lost due to the Vette being a manual transmission. The auto 8-speed is much faster in a drag race. Especially one that is tuned.

    • @ZZLZ-cj8tl
      @ZZLZ-cj8tl 4 роки тому +1

      That's very true! He did state in his early video that automatic is the faster choice but he just misses his manual.

    • @rleader1
      @rleader1 4 роки тому +1

      @@dallycurtis4532 The Z06 did not drop back at all on any of the shifts in the roll race.

    • @rleader1
      @rleader1 4 роки тому +1

      @@dallycurtis4532 In the roll race the Z06 did not drop back on any of the shifts!

  • @exotixfan
    @exotixfan 4 роки тому +4

    It's hard to deny the results. AMG GT-R is definitely the quicker car, but for 3x the price, it better be. Numbers don't lie either, most Z06's are mid 11 second cars all day. Hard to get into the 10s unless the conditions are just right.

  • @julioblanco
    @julioblanco 4 роки тому +41

    And now everybody understands why in this age of magazine racing and numbers, the manual transmission is becoming extinct.

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 4 роки тому

      Now I'm sad because magazine racing has claimed another victim........ the Corvette

    • @role6159
      @role6159 4 роки тому

      In America yes, in Europe if you don't have Mt in your car you drive car without soul

    • @opmxopx
      @opmxopx 3 роки тому +2

      No matter what, I’m sticking to manuals. No matter how extinct they get. You can have your boring automatics. (:

    • @jermainejpshepherd2778
      @jermainejpshepherd2778 3 роки тому

      @@opmxopx same here. The driving engagement with manuals is still unmatched for me.

    • @cobra20500
      @cobra20500 2 роки тому

      Really only just a small percentage is going to race/track there cars so understandneed for an auto.
      That's why I only buy stick cars for the enjoyment of the drive and control of the car.

  • @Mistadontplay89
    @Mistadontplay89 4 роки тому +2

    The Germans know how to put all the power down to the ground.

  • @ChristianHudnell
    @ChristianHudnell 4 роки тому +3

    Your videos always inspire me to make better videos bro! One of best quality car channels on UA-cam. Keep it up

  • @yoboytamer3348
    @yoboytamer3348 4 роки тому +8

    Get the c7 zr1 if your gonna bring amg top of the line cause that zr1 would eat that amg

  • @ColesCarCave
    @ColesCarCave 4 роки тому +5

    Always excellent production quality!

  • @kbush1868
    @kbush1868 4 роки тому +6

    Thanks for the clean, precise, tactful, to the point, non biased video about high end cars. Loved it... sub'd.

  • @michaelrainerii3547
    @michaelrainerii3547 4 роки тому +11

    I'd go with the AMG GT. Interior quality, great handling and performance. To each is own though

    • @Brianlikescars
      @Brianlikescars 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah infinite money situation it’s definitely the AMG GT-R. But, I can afford the Z, I can’t afford the Merc 😆. I just say bring on the cool cars so we don’t all end up in freaking crossovers.

    • @michaelrainerii3547
      @michaelrainerii3547 3 роки тому

      @@Brianlikescars Right 🤣

    • @shelbyhaiketic4212
      @shelbyhaiketic4212 Рік тому

      I’m considering a base amg gt , will it still have great handling ? How well compare in handling to a f80 m3 or a base 911

    • @michaelrainerii3547
      @michaelrainerii3547 Рік тому

      @@shelbyhaiketic4212 Honestly I don't think there's to much that compares with the handling of a 911 GT2 or GT3. They're extremely reliable as well. Can't really go wrong with Porsche. They're engineering all together seems to be top notch

    • @shelbyhaiketic4212
      @shelbyhaiketic4212 Рік тому

      @@michaelrainerii3547 are u slow in the brain ? I’m comparing it to a base 911 which is in the same price range used. Idc for the 200k supercar 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

  • @ixT0PSH0TZxi
    @ixT0PSH0TZxi 4 роки тому +8

    This is a great race, both exceptional cars you can’t go wrong with

  • @pwned2002
    @pwned2002 4 роки тому +22

    Street racing up here with c7z06's, the 8 speed auto pulls away from a manual 7 speed manual

    • @brunodemelo4997
      @brunodemelo4997 4 роки тому +2

      Only until about 120. The manual z is faster 120-150. Gearing advantage then

    • @FunTimeStudios82
      @FunTimeStudios82 3 роки тому

      @@brunodemelo4997 who does a roll race starting at 120mph? 🤣

    • @brunodemelo4997
      @brunodemelo4997 3 роки тому

      @@FunTimeStudios82 half the race is 120+

  • @GaryDownes
    @GaryDownes 4 роки тому +4

    Should have WAY more subs. Been a subscriber for a while now and love your content!

  • @eichler721
    @eichler721 4 роки тому +4

    Yes the 8 speed auto is faster. However the Manual is more fun to drive. The GTR is the top of my list right now for the price with the GT3RS coming close. Great video

    • @eichler721
      @eichler721 4 роки тому

      @20GRIZZ20 people drive back roads, canyons and such more often then racing. Plus daily the manual us more entertaining smart-ass.

    • @DiaperSNiFFER
      @DiaperSNiFFER Рік тому

      The 8 speed is only quicker from 0-60 and 1/4mile… the 7 speed mt has a higher end advantage

  • @chriscraftroamerrestoratio1494
    @chriscraftroamerrestoratio1494 3 роки тому

    I have a 2016 Z06 Convertible Automatic. She's beautiful, Triple Black. Has all the options, 3lz package. However, she sits in the garage. I know nothing about it. Hell, don't even know how to set the radio stations. I'm a older guy, 68, and I take her out of the garage every once in a while and ease down to the marina on pretty days to check on my boat. That's it. It sure is fun to watch these videos and see this fellow drive the heck out of the car and show me what this rocket is capable of. This guy can drive. He knows the machine. I can't. The most excitement I had in this car is when I dribbled ice cream on my seat. I know you might say, "What a waste of machinery" and you're probably right but after working most of my life, starting my business, raising kids, the Viet Nam thing, it's nice easing down the road in one of the meanest, baddest, cars ever to come from Chevrolet. Just watching your videos is a turn on for me. Thank you.

  • @guessmyname1104
    @guessmyname1104 4 роки тому +6

    My Z06 with stage 1 aero is definitely faster than my friend's Z06 with stage 3.

    • @ZZLZ-cj8tl
      @ZZLZ-cj8tl 4 роки тому +3

      Yes! you better believe it. I have the same experience. 2016 Z06 3LZ with Z07 track package. 126K. After three years I got a 2019 Z06 1LZ 86K. The 1LZ is just under 300 lbs. lighter. I will say major difference in the straight line performance. I race other Z06 vehicles and guest what? Their in the rear view mirror. Especially if their manual transmission.

    • @Chestnut1998
      @Chestnut1998 4 роки тому

      Put that Zo6 on your channel

  • @josevelasquez1887
    @josevelasquez1887 4 роки тому +2

    Great videos bro keep them coming

  • @jayf429
    @jayf429 4 роки тому +1

    It would’ve been more fair to run a Z06 with the 8 speed auto, but it would have actually been to run a ZR1 vs the AMG GTR?

  • @rleader1
    @rleader1 Рік тому

    I was the driver of the Z06. My drag racing times in prior generation Z06's can be viewed on the Corvette forum's fast lists for C5Z06 (#4 in Bolt ons) & C6 Z06's (#5 in bone stock and #2 in bone stock w/Drag radials) so the shifting was not the problem. I came back to this video to share that back then I had just gotten the car and was still quite unfamiliar with it. I had no idea how to use the PTM nor did I use it in this video. I also did not know that the supercharger expansion tank was not bled properly by a long shot and that caused/causes the car to heat up FAST and pull timing,robbing it of a lot of power. It would be cool to re-run these races now but the owner of the AMG GTR sold the car over a year ago.

  • @diz_-4167
    @diz_-4167 4 роки тому +1

    Ahh that garage... Seeing that Exige makes me miss my 350whp BOE400 Elise that someone hit and totaled not too long ago. It brought so much joy to the neighborhood kids that I let sit in the car and take pictures. It also brought joy to their parents who also wanted to sit in the car and get pictures. I loved the stories that were shared by former Lotus Elan and Esprit owners. Just being able to drive the car and put smiles on everyone's faces who saw and heard the car was amazing. Now to get back on on topic, this was a great comparison. My wife and I have been looking at a base AMG GT as a good way to get into an entry level GT car that is somewhat exotic. It will definitely be more forgiving and safer than the Elise, but it won't provide the same thrills. The Evora 410/GT seems like the logical step if I want to go back to having one car that can still be used as a daily but also be a bonkers street car when I want it to be. I've also looked at base C7s with the Z51 packages to be a partial Elise replacement or even a Camaro SS 1LE (track package). These picks would be much more forgiving than my boosted Elise was and allow me to become a better driver in a safer manner at track days and local autocrosses due to the modern electronics that can help reel me in if I make a mistake. Also, I won't be worried every time I go out that even the smallest road debris can potentially total the vehicle... I'm looking at you Lotus and your prices for front and rear clamshells.

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому

      @diz_ - Dang, that sucks man. Must’ve been a helluva car. I’m keeping my Exige stock for this track season but next year, I’m planning to go FBO with BOE and some other components. I honestly love the Exige, hands down my favorite car so far next to the gated Gallardo I had many years ago. To address the statement, I think the AMG GT is the right way to go. It is a very pretty car and I find it more “exotic” than anything else in it’s price range. Except maybe the i8 because it’s midengined and the doors go up but that’s subjective. C7 Z51s are great cars and they have great on and off track potential, but if we’re in that segment, you might as well just go for a C7 Grand Sport. The widebody and added aero makes a big difference.

  • @ImMohammedAli
    @ImMohammedAli Рік тому +1

    Manual C7 Z06 is my dream car!

  • @Challechallechalle
    @Challechallechalle 4 роки тому +8

    Sheesh! That Merc really cooks. I love your garage bro. Glad to see you are still making awesome videos. I think the Z06 would have done better with the auto BUT I would still buy the MT.

    • @tantiwahopak101
      @tantiwahopak101 4 роки тому

      MT?

    • @SavageTriple7
      @SavageTriple7 4 роки тому +2

      @@tantiwahopak101 mt = manual transmission

    • @rleader1
      @rleader1 4 роки тому +1

      If you watch closely in the roll race, no ground was being made up by the GT-R on the shifts, so auto or manual made no difference. The GT-R was just reeling the Z in and would have driven around had the runway been longer,

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому

      @Enigma Tombo Man, it’s been a minute. Good to hear from you and hope things are doing well. You speak the truth, I really think my auto Z would’ve put up a better fight overall, but it wouldn’t be nearly as fun to drive as a sports car.

    • @charlesfrison7135
      @charlesfrison7135 4 роки тому

      @@rleader1 Some of that has to do with that aero drag on Z06. This was a C7 Z06 with stage 2 aero package. Its been documented its a pretty solid difference when you have a stage 1 aero Z06. It'd be interesting to see a C7 Z06 A8 with stage 1 aero vs AMG GTR. That GTR is also underrated. Its more than "577" hp for sure.

  • @LeshVAuto
    @LeshVAuto 4 роки тому +11

    I am just curious how the auto might perform. Thats strange that the Manual Z06 was much slower than the AMG GT.

    • @terrymitchell4579
      @terrymitchell4579 4 роки тому +9

      Nobody can make them gears change as fast as a automatic lol

    • @LeshVAuto
      @LeshVAuto 4 роки тому

      @@terrymitchell4579 unless the put the AMG GT in M-mode.

    • @stopthinkact7204
      @stopthinkact7204 4 роки тому +2

      Terry Mitchell Terry talk is cheap...f1 and performance vehicles are manual...but their transmission are always at their best times...manual drivers make faster times then automatics...beside there are paddle shifters for the manuals...no excuses for vette...

    • @terrymitchell4579
      @terrymitchell4579 4 роки тому +7

      @@stopthinkact7204 it's a proven fact.. no driver can shift as fast as a automatic vs manual

    • @stopthinkact7204
      @stopthinkact7204 4 роки тому +2

      Terry Mitchell if this statement you just pointed out is true then why do they make sports cars with manual transmissions...but I hear you maybe it played a role but not a big one if you consider that German engineering is better...

  • @W.Khairi
    @W.Khairi 4 роки тому +1

    Very cool scenery and editing, Thanks a lot.

  • @timmietz
    @timmietz 4 роки тому +2

    Auto 2019 ZR1 vs AMG GTR would be much more fair comparison. At least that way you would be comparing a $140K car to a $185K car. AMG GTR are dynoing at 630hp overall it would a much more evenly matched race IMHO.

  • @roccovaselino
    @roccovaselino 4 роки тому

    One of the reasons the Corvette got pulled on at higher speeds is that big spoiler. In a R&T road test of the M7 Z06, they stated the Z07 package cut 9 mph off the Z06's top speed. That drag affects acceleration, Big Time, and exponentially over 60 mph. I didn't order the Z07 package for my 2019 M7 Z06 because A) I don't track the car, 2) I like getting 3 mpg better at 80 mph, and, III) I can think of better ways to spend $7,000. That said, the Mercedes is very impressive. Another totes pro video, maign.

  • @Omega_TTRS
    @Omega_TTRS 4 роки тому +2

    There's a lot of variables at play here. As you mentioned in the beginning, it's odd that the GT-R makes less power but puts down a higher trap speed. But, much like BMW's, many Mercedes vehicles actually put their advertised BHP to the wheels, if not a bit higher. So in reality, the Z06 was down on power comparatively--most likely. Also, the A8 would have been a better race but still no comparison to a DCT. The stage 3 aero didn't lend the Corvette any advantages in this comparison, either. As soon as I saw the vehicles and the test criteria, I knew that the GT-R would win in both instances without even watching.

  • @HOLAATODOS-os5te
    @HOLAATODOS-os5te 4 роки тому +1

    Cmon!! A z06 against amg gtr? A fair comparison would be a zr1

  • @audi_steve8363
    @audi_steve8363 4 роки тому +4

    Match up would’ve been better with the Corvette ZR1 against the AMG

    • @raulsanchezjr4048
      @raulsanchezjr4048 5 місяців тому

      Yes against the GTR with 710hp and it would destroy the ZR1 with its 755hp....crazy huh?..

  • @BigBlueRacing
    @BigBlueRacing 4 роки тому +7

    Great video! I think the auto Z06 would of out performed the amg but German interior is hard to beat quality wise.

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 4 роки тому +3

      But when something in it breaks.......have fun with that

    • @Alex-zg7vq
      @Alex-zg7vq 4 роки тому

      @@pontiacGXPfan if you are able to afford such a car you dont give a shit about repair costs

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 4 роки тому

      @@Alex-zg7vq if you say so

    • @BadazzShovelhead
      @BadazzShovelhead 2 роки тому

      @@pontiacGXPfan He's right- On the rare occasion it isn't covered by warranty I don't mind paying (so far hasn't happened) and sitting in a nice luxury AMG room getting your ass kissed is fine with me. I paid cash for my 2020 AMG GTR new and then I added stage 3- Anything I'd need to do on that car not covered under warranty is fine with me. Luckily I haven't had any problems with it 100% trouble free- And I track it on occasion.

    • @pontiacGXPfan
      @pontiacGXPfan 2 роки тому

      @@BadazzShovelhead the same attention to detail apparently doesn't extend to the bottom rung A and CLA class

  • @Need2Speedcartalk
    @Need2Speedcartalk 4 роки тому +1

    Hard to compare a manual to an automatic in today’s cars. Almost not fare.

  • @simonchan2457
    @simonchan2457 4 роки тому +3

    Absolutely beautiful quality 👍

  • @jeffreyepstein6823
    @jeffreyepstein6823 4 роки тому +8

    Can u do viper srt gen v or gts Or TA vs the c7 zo6. Both manual .

    • @Spartan_ZR1
      @Spartan_ZR1 4 роки тому

      Viper will pull on a stock Z, if they have aero the viper has no trouble. They will pull a ZR1 if they have aero on too.
      They make the same power stock, but the viper is down a few hundred lbs and have no heat soak. This is just my experience.
      - Gen V viper owner.

    • @jeffreyepstein6823
      @jeffreyepstein6823 4 роки тому

      @@Spartan_ZR1 what year is urs and wt model the gts?

    • @Spartan_ZR1
      @Spartan_ZR1 4 роки тому

      Jeffrey Epstein
      16 SRT

    • @jeffreyepstein6823
      @jeffreyepstein6823 4 роки тому

      @@Spartan_ZR1 oh lucky u, doesn't have the recalls for the engine failure.

    • @jeffreyepstein6823
      @jeffreyepstein6823 4 роки тому

      @@Spartan_ZR1 would it be a good decision to get '13 srt with like 10kmiles?

  • @4everyoung869
    @4everyoung869 2 роки тому +1

    A 577 hp car beat a 650hp wow

  • @montro-city9920
    @montro-city9920 4 роки тому +2

    It' d be hard for any Corvette manual or Auto to win against the AMG DCT. They've been doing them for awhile now. The C8 DCT I doubt can win too.
    And welcome back man.
    Thirdly, we're waiting for that usual 'one guy' in the comments section.

    • @DanWangFilms
      @DanWangFilms 4 роки тому

      @Montro-City I don’t know, maybe we scared off that one guy. But you never know, it’s only been a day. I personally think the A8 would’ve stood a slightly better chance but the C8 Stingray DCT has no chance. The shifts may be as quick but it doesn’t nearly have enough power to compete in this segment.

    • @montro-city9920
      @montro-city9920 4 роки тому

      @@DanWangFilms A8 🤔 Or did you mean the R8??? Even that one won't stand a chance against the AMG GT-R. It's NA. It won't keep up. If a 650hp car was defeated hands down, there's no way a 605hp will stand a chance.

    • @DanWangFilms
      @DanWangFilms 4 роки тому

      @@montro-city9920 I meant A8 (automatic) version of the Z06.

  • @vernonprice5986
    @vernonprice5986 4 роки тому +1

    Yeah auto vs manual makes it an unfair comparison. There's also the cost issue, the GTR costs three times as much money. But then there's also the issue of the GTR being the fastest version of the AMG GT, while the Z06 is NOT the fastest version of the Corvette. That would be the ZR1. And ZR1s have been clocked, bone stock, doing 9.8 @ 140 mph.

  • @marcosantonocito8876
    @marcosantonocito8876 4 роки тому +4

    New to the channel really enjoying the content. Something about Germany cars that are able to put down the power efficiently with less HP and Torque ,

  • @JS-of5nb
    @JS-of5nb 4 роки тому +4

    Wow! the z06 sounds so good!!

  • @nourachich
    @nourachich Рік тому

    i believe you should have eqquiped the stage 1 spoiler and splitter for less drag and should have used the no lift shift to shift much faster

  • @bmann792
    @bmann792 4 роки тому +5

    C8 base vs Amg ??

    • @audi_steve8363
      @audi_steve8363 4 роки тому

      Z06 is not base but it should be the CR1 vs the AMG

    • @bmann792
      @bmann792 4 роки тому

      chulo flow not what I’m saying at all. C8 base bs Amg. We put our base model against Mercedes flagship at 4 times the price to show them what Chevrolet has accomplished at a fraction of the price

  • @ALT3REDB3AST
    @ALT3REDB3AST 4 роки тому +3

    Love the Hans Zimmer vibed backing track.

  • @adamhammoud1776
    @adamhammoud1776 4 роки тому +2

    The manual leaves it in the dust. Shifting is just waaaay too slow for racing a car with similar stats using an auto.

  • @stopthinkact7204
    @stopthinkact7204 4 роки тому +1

    The Z06 is alright and has a big engine but the Mercedes Murdered the Z06 on both runs in my opinion...German engineering puts out the Speed regardless of horsepower...Z06 650hp vs GTR 577hp...

    • @stopthinkact7204
      @stopthinkact7204 4 роки тому +1

      Time stamp 3:33 Murder she wrote...Mercedes the best or...

  • @ytytyt2516
    @ytytyt2516 4 роки тому +1

    Love your Drag Race videos ❤🏁
    Keep it up 👍

  • @spaRTan3246
    @spaRTan3246 4 роки тому

    Another important factor not mentioned is that AMG biturbo cars always have "a bit more" power whereas the C7Z06 tend to lack a bit.

  • @blakebrinkerhoff5669
    @blakebrinkerhoff5669 Рік тому

    What kind of wheels do you have?
    Tire size?
    Looks incredible

  • @damoncusato4153
    @damoncusato4153 4 роки тому +1

    Would have been a good comparison until you swapped the z06 to a manual. Heads up against a DCT ? - waste of a video.

  • @hbk4984
    @hbk4984 4 роки тому +1

    You meant both are front-mid engine

  • @SkaptorOriginal
    @SkaptorOriginal 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! Great quality keep it going, maybe more Porsche content?

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому +1

      @Skaptor Thanks! Hopefully, I heard Fabspeed just got a Porsche 718 GT4. That car is extremely high on my list.

  • @Thatcardude207
    @Thatcardude207 4 роки тому

    both cars are 3600 pounds and GTR makes 75 HP less yet is able to beat the Corvette comprehensively makes no sense.

  • @strykz63
    @strykz63 4 роки тому +2

    In my opinion that was very close.. props to the z06 driver.. interesting that the z06 has more power and in a manual should lose less power than in its automatic form. My guess is the results would be the same if not worst if the z06 was automatic... Them Germans dont play when it comes to being efficient... I love them GTR's

  • @udaya803
    @udaya803 4 роки тому

    What is the location you recorded this? Looks like an air field. Is it open to public?

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому +1

      This is a privately owned airport located in Princeton, NJ.

    • @udaya803
      @udaya803 4 роки тому

      Track Day thanks for the reply. Can we rent their track? Or is it open to public? Cheers!

  • @chrisleonard6004
    @chrisleonard6004 4 роки тому +4

    Love your videos...but at the end of the day, it comes down to price versus performance and as you said, the Mercedes runs three times the amount than the Z06. Given the performance numbers, Z06 is clearly the winner. If you were to give Corvette another $50k (cough, cough...have it run against the ZR1) to upgrade the car which would still be substantially priced under the Mercedes, it would eat the Mercedes up at the track all day long. I recommend that at the end of the video where you post the stats you reminder the viewer the cost of each car by pricing out the models tests.

    • @BadazzShovelhead
      @BadazzShovelhead 2 роки тому

      I get your point but at the end of the day- I have owned both and the fact is as a car a daily driver or even a weekend cruiser (why?) the AMG GTR is 3 times the car. The Vtee's build quality is embarrassing in many ways, the materials used nd the way they are put together is pretty shockingly bad. When you buy a car yeah drag times are a bragging right but not much more. I have a stage 3 with carbon fiber brakes done on my GTR and even without it on a road course it would wear the vette out especially multiple laps where durability matters. If you want a nice performance car it is hard to beat the GTR in every objective way except maybe the drag strip. Yes it cost more but it is also so much more car. And the best news is AMG GTR owners don't get upset if you don't wave on the rare occasion you see another one.

  • @pkradgreek
    @pkradgreek 4 роки тому +1

    Big difference in acceleration numbers between manual and automatic.

  • @howardwoods342
    @howardwoods342 4 роки тому +1

    So why not the zr1 vs the AMG gtr. Still way cheaper, oh because the zr1 would destroy the mercedes got ya

  • @allensaunders449
    @allensaunders449 4 роки тому

    Makes alot more sense to use a,C8 on a road race course. To go against each other

  • @bloodyterrific
    @bloodyterrific 4 роки тому +6

    I’m a corvette fan but needs to compare apples with apples. Auto vs auto.

  • @iLLGT2
    @iLLGT2 4 роки тому +1

    amg gtr 100-200 have been verified in the 6.4-5 range so this gtr is def on the slow side
    2020's have been proven to be slower than their pre particulate filter lesser tuned relatives from 18-19'

  • @HTX_ROME
    @HTX_ROME 4 роки тому +1

    Similar weight and power the DCT with Turbos > manual with supercharger

  • @dylanmartino7975
    @dylanmartino7975 4 роки тому +2

    Need to get rid of the hing wing + you need the automatic

  • @stevet8607
    @stevet8607 4 роки тому +1

    Love the videos bro , I was there a couple weeks ago when you was at the airport, and I'm actually right there right now watching the Audi TT lol

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому

      @Steve T Hey man thanks, next time come say hi!

    • @stevet8607
      @stevet8607 4 роки тому +1

      @@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy i will, im their mailman lol , I was actually the on the field when you had the Ferrari, lambo and Audi R8 lol , he lets me and my boys run our remote control cars there , they go 140+ mph

    • @stevet8607
      @stevet8607 4 роки тому +1

      @@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy you have an email , we need to do a collaboration , that'd be great content, or somebody at the airport have your info , ken ?

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому

      @Steve T Sounds good, small world. That’s faster than some of the cars we run on there. 😄 My email and Instagram are in the about section of my page.

  • @JuanAntonio-pl4ol
    @JuanAntonio-pl4ol 4 роки тому +1

    Stage 2 Aero, Manual...A8 with the Stage 1 aero yeets the AMG

  • @stuartkidney3257
    @stuartkidney3257 2 роки тому +2

    Both are excellent platforms, each very well designed!

  • @AnDuKn0Thi5MaN
    @AnDuKn0Thi5MaN 4 роки тому +4

    Great content my friend👌🏽👌🏽 I would like to see you run it against the ZR1 so it’s a bit more of an even fight...push them through some slaloms on a skid pad would be awesome to watch too

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому +2

      @4ever_s4turd4y_ Thanks! Agreed, ZR1 is closer in price and I think it would definitely walk the AMG GTR (even the Pro). Hopefully soon, I’ll be able to find a large parking lot or space where I can set up handling tests. For now, all I can do is straight line stuff at this airstrip.

    • @ashleydaniels1132
      @ashleydaniels1132 4 роки тому

      @@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy agreed,the AMG might not win at all against the ZR1,but take them to the GREEN HELL...... it will literally be rape of the ZR1.....where the GTR was meant to play,track days........but for the price,the Chevy cant be beaten. but if it were my money.....and i had the cash....AMG thanks.

    • @dansherwood9851
      @dansherwood9851 Рік тому

      I'd like to see the AMG versus the ZR one at the Norbord Green

  • @michaelscott761
    @michaelscott761 2 роки тому

    In 25 years, both these cars will be amazing to look at….just like now……timeless.

  • @freddymolina1518
    @freddymolina1518 4 роки тому +1

    Track Day I appreciate the info now I know what to expect if I run into the AMG. On a separate note if u still have the after market wheels maybe looking to get rid of them I’ve been considering finally getting some I believe I can’t be too far from u I work in nj

    • @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
      @SpeedLabsMotorEnvy  4 роки тому +1

      @Freddy Molina I do! I have two sets, if you want to email me (info in the about section of the channel) or send me a message on IG, I can send you some pics and we can go more in detail. I’m smack dab in the middle of NJ so I’m sure it’ll be convenient for pickup/drop-off.

    • @freddymolina1518
      @freddymolina1518 4 роки тому

      Track Day ok sounds good will contact u in a few. Ty

  • @Garrettjohnson94
    @Garrettjohnson94 2 роки тому

    I currently have a 2016 Z06. Hoping to upgrade to the GT R this year!

  • @brandonchang4685
    @brandonchang4685 4 роки тому

    Gearing plain and simple, the Z06 has a 7 speed manual trans with very long hwy gearing, the gtr has 9 speed trans with shorter final gearing, this is how the GTR with less horsepower pass the ZO6. Very well engineered technically.

  • @Jcastro9444
    @Jcastro9444 4 роки тому +7

    Why tf would yall put a c7z against an Amg GTR 🤦‍♂️ c7 zr1 would be more fair.

    • @johnnymontsanto2963
      @johnnymontsanto2963 4 роки тому +1

      Agree

    • @Peterpiperspickledpeppers
      @Peterpiperspickledpeppers 4 роки тому +1

      No the ZR1 has 200 more HP 😂 the automatic C7 ZO6 would have been better than the manual

    • @EK-rr2md
      @EK-rr2md 4 роки тому

      Jay C, seriously?? The Z06 already has more than 70 extra hp over the GTR. How is that not fair?

    • @Jcastro9444
      @Jcastro9444 4 роки тому

      @@EK-rr2md amg gtr is top of the line model so is zr1 not zo6

    • @EK-rr2md
      @EK-rr2md 4 роки тому

      @@Jcastro9444 where a car falls in the model lineup is irrelevant. That's like saying compare the ZR1 to a Civic Type R because both are top of the line models. You compare cars fairly by using similar hp and performance figures.

  • @thekoenigsegg
    @thekoenigsegg 4 роки тому

    Corvette isn't a muscle car. It's a sports/super. Who are these people on UA-cam when their channels are about cars but can't even put cars in the right category?? Only muscles in america are challenger, charger, camaro and mustang

  • @nix294
    @nix294 4 роки тому

    There's also aerodynamics to be consider since both cars have very different body lines .

  • @noladude5046
    @noladude5046 4 роки тому +1

    Well done video!!! We must get your subs up!!

  • @剛田剛彦
    @剛田剛彦 4 роки тому

    Chevrolet claims Z06 has 650hp and it lost against AMG GTR which has less HP and more weight.

  • @muuriciodegollada3870
    @muuriciodegollada3870 4 роки тому +7

    Zo6 love it

  • @maxpower201
    @maxpower201 4 роки тому

    What shoes are you wearing?

  • @paulsalmon4771
    @paulsalmon4771 3 роки тому

    But why not compare top tier against top tier?? Zr1 vs Merc GTR and same year model as well.

  • @snois2
    @snois2 3 роки тому

    The merc cost 3 times as much? Here in Sweden, you can get both for about the same price.
    Looking to cop a merc

  • @derincatalbas9425
    @derincatalbas9425 Рік тому

    Why the hell would you race an automatic Mercedes against a manual Z06? You wanted that Z06 to lose.

  • @rodneyrael3024
    @rodneyrael3024 4 роки тому

    What did you buy when you sold the Corvette?