I like seeing more gameplay people. It feels like the EA and Sims team cater to the builders, people who will spend hours in build mode and could care less about gameplay. 😭
I know one of my favorite sims games was busting out and it heavily focused on gameplay and objectives, I really liked it. Building is cool but not what I play for.
Growing Together personally for me was needed to make infants not boring. I played with an infant two days before getting that pack and it got boring quickly. I know people have mixed feelings about the milestones but I think the milestones for infants really makes you feel like the infants are developing/ getting older. They can be difficult and kinda hectic but it adds a challenge to your sims life. My only gripe with Growing Together was that there was no active daycare career. They had that in sims 3 so why couldn't they do that in sims 4? I know there is a mod now...but it should have been included in the pack. I also feel like one of the few people that like Snowy Escape and Horse Ranch, lol. I love SE's world and the culture and the festivals are quite fun too. I also like snowboarding, rock-climbing and the hiking trails. As for Horse Ranch, I love horses and nectar-making. I also like the mini-sheep and goats. Basically if you want a big farm with lots of animals get this pack with Cottage Living. HSY isn't buggy for me. It could have been implemented better but I do feel like it does give me something to do with teens. I also really like social bunny and trendy. The only pack that I don't really like is Get Famous. I basically got it for the acting career. And I do like the streaming station they have where your sim can make their own videos and make money. But that's about it. I wish the world would have been more like a city. I usually have my actors live in San Myshuno rather than the bland world that it comes with.
active daycare career would have made Growing Together infinitely more well rounded, I agree. I also agree with you on the milestones being a big deal for family. It's just such a shame that they kind of fall off at childhood and become pointless
I agree with you. I never understood the hype of Get Famous (I rarely use it, I had problems with my game because I locked the option to have fame from the start... I felt like it was corny and very unrealistic. I had to turn it back on because it was interfering with my game in the Farm Pack). I also really enjoy the Horse Ranch and the Snowy Escape pack. My version of Olive Spectre is a three-time widow that occupies her time with her horse ranch and making sure her niece stays dressed and fed. 🤣 I felt like the Sims 2 version lacked a hobby. Now she knits, does gardening and takes care of her beloved champion horse Thanatos. She is laying her eyes on potential husband number four (Don Gooseman). Now seriously, I feel like there are things they could have done: an active kindergarden with a career as an educator or an after-school activity (horse riding) besides drama club or scouts for children (I am sick of those two options), even with the island pack they could have added the swim club. High School is still very bugged, true, I was never able to sneak out and I tried literally EVERYTHING I saw on the Internet. That has to mean something, right? I was expecting the growing up pack to have other things as well like active senior homes and making it a career (since is something so real) or FINALLY the private school option (I miss sims 2)... but I disagree with other packs.
Honestly I played infants for awhile without growing together, just got it during the sale. Base game infants were only a slight upgrade from the cradle locked newborns. I know Parenthood was pre-infants, but I got that first. While it is more about the parent gaining parenting skills then the kids milestones, I still was pretty happy with just parenthood for ages. The infants are still a lot to handle but it still added enough dynamics I was perfectly ok with waiting until late next year to by growing together or until it was at a reasonable price. As I am never JUST raising an infant, even without growing together I had fun with them. Of course I started on growing together with a complex family that was already in progress (twin infants, a toddler, and a child) so the challenge added up fast. And I don’t know that with that big of a household I clocked or appreciated every milestone to be honest, especially with two working parents. I am happy to have a few things like the treehouse and kids bikes and I like the compatibility system, but I am so far unimpressed by milestones. In a home with just an infant I’d maybe notice more. The thing I wanted most from growing together was that gosh darn baby carrier to be honest. I had a CC changing table that worked with base game.
I got Horse Ranch at a discount and I really love it. I currently have a save with two ranches at the moment - one in Henford that focuses primarily on animals and raising Thoroughbred race horses and the other in Chestnut Ridge that revolves around nectar making and breeding horses for western pleasure riding. I also keep a personal record of the horses' genetics so when I breed them, I can recolor the foals properly, as well as add further complexity to the game. I can understand where people are coming from when they say the pack doesn't have a lot of depth; it takes a lot of imagination and creativity to make it work. But for people who love horses and breeding/genetics, I think it can be really fun. I've noticed a lot more bugs since installing the pack (could also be a result of my mods interfering with the pack as well), but nothing game-breaking. But as somebody who likes to watch chaos occur autonomously, I sometimes enjoy the weird stuff that happens.
I have both Snowy Escape and Get Famous. Snowy escape is kinda underrated imo and I wouldn’t be able to live without it cause ✨Kiyoshi Ito✨ exists. All my girls get with him every game😭 Also I don’t really regret buying Get Famous cause I like what it comes with, the acting career and video station and all, but I still wish there was more. The world is boring af and it’s just kinda basic
Yeah honestly I feel like get together is a must have in order to make the other packs more fun. Only thing that makes high school years fun for me is the fact can make "cliques" in the game with get together
As someone who plays the sims but doesn't feel the need to purchase every pack, I love your honest reviews. I feel like they needed to combine cats and dogs with horse ranch like in the sims 3. Same thing with werewolves and vampire, they should have just combined them. The sims 3 felt you got some much more bang for your buck with packs
I like Get Together a lot. It's got group dancing, dj mixing, and then with the dj's you can create real nightclubs. The club system is one of the very few things the Sims team keeps updated--it has cross-functionality with most other packs' gameplay. The club system helps you make friends, build skills, set up family, party, or other group activities. And then the sims actually mostly do those activities. It makes the whole game feel more alive.
Same!! I make a lot of clubs and place them on different lot types to make my world lively As a legacy player, I also created a club with all of my legacy household's extended family. I used MCCC to increase the limit of club members so I can have around 20+ people in my clubs. They're more convenient to use for family gatherings than the base game events !!
@krizcruz7359 Yes! I use Get Together the same way, to make venues more lively. It's especially great when playing rotationally. There will usually be a club meeting wherever my sim is, and they can meet my other sims and make friends in a realistic way. Get Together tends to be underrated.
I'm still frustrated that we don't have singers and bands still 😆That definitely should have came with Get Famous. I definitely agree about Cats & Dogs because they seem so lifeless and pointless in having in my household. They need more things to do. Especially horses! Omg the horses just idle for HOURS in my game.
Just stocking stuffer, but I want to support you. You’re a great person,as I appreciate your advice on personal things and sims 4. You encourage to live unapologetically. Merry (hopefully snowy) Christmas to you and much love Satch!
Hey Satch! Merry Christmas (to everyone celebrating)!!! Thanks for posting even though it's a holiday. I mainly agree with your choices and rankings, although the only reason I like Growing Together is because of the milestones of the infants. Without the pack, infants go from being objects in a crib to being able to crawl and sit, and it's immersion breaking. I like the fact that infants can't do anything unless they actually learn it - like lifting their head, first laugh, etc.
Every save I make I think about the storyline for my character and play as if it's a TV show unfolding, it really helps to visualize where the gameplay is going without getting stuck and not knowing what to do
@@thelittlespanishgirl I'd say my saves are more of a interactive illustration, even if its just a vibe to portray I like to have it existing somewhere lol.
Get Together is the most important pack to my gameplay. I have Sims in clubs full time. It increases their skill rate as you earn perks, and there is also one that basically eliminates the need to eat, sleep or pee. To me it makes the entire game more playable. There is a greater chance of death by hysteria as it amplifies good moods. But that's okay. Resurrection is easy enough, lol.
I'm starting to think you guys don't know how to have fun! When Outdoor Retreat was one of five packs I had in my jailbroken game, I had my sim go and find all the different growable plants and collect all the bugs without cheating on what time/where they spawned. She ended her collection with the elusive Will-o-the-wisp and found the Hermit's house, ending up falling for hermit Bruce and marrying him. They had 5 kids and Bruce went out the way he wanted, via CowPlant. Get creative y'all.
I agree with Growing Together 100%. I got it for my birthday and it is so shallow! I really think that was meant to be a base game (infant stuff, and milestones) update and a Parenthood refresh. I also think Horse Ranch and For Rent were meant to be refreshes too. How else would there be 3 EP in one year!
I agree with this list 100%. My biggest gripe with Growing Together was that it felt necessary to buy. I truly think milestones should have come with the infant update as a huge base game update. Milestones aren’t big enough of a feature to be bought. Infants without Growing Together are no better than newborns locked to their cradle imo, especially with how long of a life stage it is. It’s also absolutely appalling that things like the playmat were locked behind an expansion paywall.
I just got the Bust the Dust pack and just I LOVE IT! The dust adds so much ambience and annoyingly realistic game play and the dust bunnies are so cute! The dust bunnies can be befriended and become indoor bunny pets that don’t age or die - unlike the cottage living bunnies that keep dying even if I turn off animal aging!
"I just got" Yeah, give it 6 months of those dust bunnies and you'll be downloading mods to decrease their spawn, nerf their gifts, and shut the the F up.
I find it kinda hilarious you praise the pack for realisim, but are also excited about unaging dust bunny pets…..it’s kinda hilarious. I mean, do you, enjoy your pack. But I would put dust bunny pets, especially immortal ones, firmly in ‘not realisim’. 😂😂
@@TheDawnofVanlife Sometimes fantasy can be made more intriguing by grounding it with realism, or vice versa to make realism seem more engaging and grounded by juxtaposing it with fantasy. Enjoying one or the other does not need to be mutually exclusive, and one can be used to successfully enhance the other. I'm not sure that's necessarily what's going on here with the $6.99 "Bust the Dust" kit DLC for The Simsᵀᴹ 4. Because it's questionable as to whether there is actually any substance here to analyse to such a capacity. I'm simply saying that invalidating someone's favourable opinion of realism or fantasy simply because they espouse the other as well in the same breath is not always entirely valid.
@@shigeminotoge4514It wasn’t that deep of a comment, all of sims is honestly a few fantastical things grounded in mostly reality. Like a 20/80 split. Like Patchy coming to life and tending your garden…total fantasy but people love Patchy. Imaginary friends coming to life in Sims 3, total fantasy but people have been clamoring for the return of imaginary friends. I actually don’t own any of the occult packs so I do not care, but the cries for faries and real unicorns in Sims 4 are shouted about everyday. I totally get it. I also think it’s the wrong word entirely. It’s less ‘realisim’ and more ‘authentic challenge’. Like having to fix the electrical box in For Rent is closer to an authentic landlord challenge while dealing with the ghost haunting isn’t. Sims usually has a bit of both and different strokes for different folks on where the goofy things are fun and enjoyable and where they aren’t. But it still isn’t realisim.
Everyone always hates on Get to Work but it adds so much gameplay. I just got University and it just has the University rabbit holes to attend and is so buggy. Get to Work has multiple interactive jobs and the ability to build and own shops. 😊
Watching this vid while doing Christmas countdown. Happy Holidays Satch! ETA: Thank you Satch for giving Get to Work and Get Famous the love that they deserve! IMO, those 2 EPs are also a must-have ❤
My favorites are city living and island living. Totally into the vibes and the social interactions! ❤ 🌴🧜♀️ the scenery in island living is to die for!
I just got Seasons and…it’s fine. Not blown away, but the price was finally too good to ignore. I was worried about feeling overwhelmed by to-do list of the holidays and changing weather messing up my Sims lives. I moved from the East Coast of the US to the West Coast - California (Bay Area) where there is mild weather all year and didn’t miss massive weather changes at all, wasn’t bothered. Neutral all year weather is cool with me. Having aging on and rasing my sims kids was my time progression as well as other sim families aging around me. What I do like in the Seasons pack tho is a sense of geography so I do like if my Sim takes a vacation in Sulani during the winter they actually DO have different weather then the Sim had at home. Even popping over to San Myshuno from Willow Creek you might hit a storm not going on at home and I will say this added the most variety to my play more than anything. And made each map feel more like a definitively different place then the other. As troubled as the For Rent launch has been, it is a need for me especially for that sense of geography. The Home Regions Mod does a great job at keeping Sims from crossing over into worlds they don’t live in. But can make the population of worlds with smaller lot counts REALLY small. The custom apartments have allowed me to increase each neighborhood population more effectively.
Since you've played around with the pack I have to ask, do you think the garden system in Seasons is fleshed out enough or is country living still a necessary add on? I'm tempted to just stick with seasons, but I don't want it if the gardening is worthless without further expansions.
This may be silly to say but I feel like sims 4 for rent is a need especially if you have other packs which most summer do. The reason I say it’s a need is that it brings multi family lots unfortunately not multi functioning lots which needs to be added. But that really expands and creates bigger worlds. Especially for worlds like Delsol valley. A very small world but huge lots to add things like apartments. As for me it’s a need.
@@PedroHenrique-fz3jc yea that’s true! But there are work arounds it’s bjust frustrating that we keep getting glitchy packs….but I think my comment aged well.
i'll forever defend snowy escape haha. i might be biased since i quite like japanese culture, and i also got it before city living so festivals were entirely new in my game, but I think it comes with a lot of fun elements that are often overlooked because the pack is centered around winter sports that weren't implemented well so it's easy to trash it. To me, it was a breath of fresh air after owning a whole bunch of american suburban/british countryside style packs, there was finally something in the game representing a culture other than western european. The world itself is very pretty, I like how there's the snowy area where you can ski/snowboard all year round, but you can also experience a normal Japanese town as well, which could have been done in a better way, but at least it's something. I think it adds some versatibility to the pack, another reason to purchase it besides playing winter sports and climbing mountains and I find myself using the pack quite a lot. I'm also a gameplay person, but I think it's awesome for build mode and CAS as well. Also, hiking!!!! it's not very exciting, i'll admit it, but I always use it for proposals haha, at least it looks nice, something different from willow creek. For a pack about winter sports I find it disappointing how it lacks depth, but I think it's a better pack than, like, cats & dogs by MILES and you get more substance for the same price. It should've been called something else instead of snowy escape
Agree! I also like bringing my Sims to the hiking area, Senbamachi neighbourhood, for dates, family group hiking as well as for romantic proposals near the temple area, where the cherry blossom trees will be in the background. Also, love having my Sim go collect the random forest spirit dolls during hiking. And lastly, I also love love love Kiyoshi Ito from this pack. So... hehehe... (*pls don't judge me) I will forever support this pack! 😄😝
@@carmenphoon YES oh my god i keep aging up Kiyoshi and adding it to every single family i make istg the only good looking male sim from the entire game haha XDD i do the same stuff, hiking is very nice for family gameplay, you can make your sims do morning jogs if they live nearby too, it's nice because they can break out from the monotomy of the game by doing something that's not a rabbithole activity.
@@jamieblaire Personally, I think this pack came with the most attractive looking Sims. Kiyoshi will always be my bias in the game, in every saved game that I have, I will always make sure he doesn't die. Because, I just can't see him die. Thank goodness for MCCC! 😜😝
I have -Romantic garden -Jungle adventure -Fancy party (something like that) -Christmas free stuff -My first pet (Don't have cats and dogs but cas is still usable 💅🏻) -And something I cannot remember For free from official sales and I am collecting slowly ✨
omg thank you for being so honest about growing together! I have the exact same thoughts about growing together! after I purchased it I could not believe how they called it an expansion pack when it's barely any gameplay, the milestones doesn't even impact my Sims life all that much. I was so disappointed, but I learned my lesson and that's why I haven't purchased the for rent yet, and I probably won't until there's a really really good price on it..
I honestly trust your opinion more than, for example, lilsimsie's or any other sims 4 youtuber when it comes to these things simply because you don't care what people say about you for telling the truth ❤ Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
I mean I love Satch’s takes but you do know someone can just feel differently about the same thing. lilsimsie, who isn’t even someone I watch regularly, has said on multiple occassions, don’t buy packs full price. If you really want it wait for a sale.
@@TheDawnofVanlifei do like to eatch satch’s videos, and he does speak the truth. He’s very honest. But I’ve realised people nowadays absolutely cannot understand what they read or listen, interpretation skills are sorely lacking. Kayla ALWAYS shows us the bugs on every pack, she always says not to pay full price, she criticises EA a LOT… but just because she actually enjoys the franchise and manages to have fun playing, people say she’s a sellout and only says good things about the game regardless of the issues with EA. Same for James Turner, he never hides the issues the game has, but just because he’s also on the creator network automatically he’s fake, a shill, whatever. Both him and Kayla don’t let the bugs get in the way of their videos because the videos are supposed to be enjoyable, otherwise EVERY content ever would be just complaining. It gets old very fast. But they still show (and tell) us the issues they faced with the game on the videos. It seems, to me, at least, that people want vitriol, and not actual balanced content that allows you to make your own decisions whether or not you’re supposed to like or hate a pack. To be completely clear, since people are going to think I’m saying Satch is hateful: I do NOT think that. He sound like a very honest person, to me, and I enjoy his videos a lot. I’m absolutely not saying HE is on the negative side of the sims/ea… fandom? Idk. He seems to care a lot about showing us the facts so we can spend our money carefully. But so do other content creators, even on EA’s network. People are allowed to enjoy parts of the game while recognising and sharing the parts that are shitty, of which there’s a LOT.
@@SNMarlenePreach!!! I love Satch but I also find his rankings biased to His playstyle and what He finds enjoyable. Not because he’s a ‘hater’ but because he’s human and like most people he likes what he likes. Also more than once I have seen him label something a bug that was honestly a mis-step on his part in gameplay. I am not saying the game isn’t buggy, it is! And I enjoyed his rankings for what they are. But Growing Together, for example, which I am ‘meh’ on is a family player’s pack and Satch is not into family gameplay so what’s super fun for people who play with families a lot Satch will very often dismiss as not gameplay or worth your time just because it wasn’t worth his time. It’s also why saying ‘I’m a gameplay and live mode person’ means literal nothing because ‘gameplay’ means different things to different people. Some people are all about challenges, some are into rags to riches, some play sims like an rpg, some cheat all the needs and have their sims live in a utopia where they have everything they need & the player takes in the endorphins of a perfect fantasy land, and some throw every torture in game at their sims…and some people just build. What makes sims ‘fun’ or ‘worth it’ is a varied experience.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Although I genuenly trust satch's opinion, I agree with you, but I just put lilsimsie as an example, I'm not saying she's fake (and I'm sorry If what I said seemed like it). The reason why I trust satch's opinion so much it's because I play the sims 4 in a similar way to his style, I think I should've clarify that in the first place.
@@TheDawnofVanlife I understand what you mean but I do think Satch is very honest about what he likes and he says so I’m so many videos. He is, imo, really transparent regarding why he likes or dislikes something and where he’s coming from/ what his goals are. I appreciate that a lot. It’s up to people to pay attention to what content creators say and to understand that no one’s opinion is supposed to be the universal truth, and that who’s watching has to decide some things by themselves. Regarding the gameplay part of what you said I 100% agree, but still Satch could bring us a laundry list of what he likes to do on the game, and people would still misunderstand him. Many people nowadays can’t really think by themselves, it’s really sad to see. Or they think things are black and white and who doesn’t agree with their own opinions are sellouts, liars, whatever. Exposure brings scrutiny, and not all of the latter ends up being fair, unfortunately.
im so glad I found his channel its like finding your soulmate but instead of being an romantic oriented thing it's in the ts4 creator networkism and he is the chosen one that can't be challenged
Great review😊Personally the cats and dogs pack is worth it for owning a vet clinic, I like the gameplay. But owning the actual pet for sure feels meaningless in the game!
Ich kann nicht glauben, dass das Basisspiel kostenlos ist, aber Growing Together ist im Grunde ein Basisspiel für 34. Das Basisspiel ist also sinnlos, aber man braucht es wie ein kostenloses Spiel, aber Growing Together ist das „vollständige Erlebnis“.
Du hast Recht, ich hätte gerne öfter einen Kommentar. Nun, ich glaube, ich bin es verdammt noch mal nicht, dass Zacxlo es getan hat. Scheiße, er hat mir das Telefon gestohlen
The one thing about nifty knitting and laundry day I do like is that they did it based on player's voting. I believe the consensus for paranormal stuff is that so many people wanted happy haunts they decided to add it, which either way was a really good move. Still, I feel like it shows a lot what players want and was a good way of getting the community involved
I personally think of Dream Home Decorator the same way Satch thinks of Tiny Living. It's there to encourage you to get more creative with build/buy mode while working within constraints... plus I really enjoy interior design. Sure, you need to do a fair amount of work (interviewing them and even taking notes irl) to understand what your decorator gig clients want and don't want and have to find a middle ground there, but I think it's satisfying when you do well, even if the work might end up looking ridiculous. lol That's part of the fun for me. lol Gigs also get you using the build/buy filters quite a bit. Anyone who says it's too easy to satisfy your clients in Dream Home Decorator hasn't done gigs where there are multiple sims with multiple likes and dislikes. If you don't do enough interviewing and don't consider the likes and dislikes, especially when they conflict with one another, you can easily fail your gig. If you're thinking that you can't properly interview your clients, consider that you might not be using the right social interactions, and no, the Interior Decorator ones aren't always enough. "Ask About Hobbies and Skills", "Ask About Favorite Color", and "Ask About Taste In Decor" are all crucial questions to ask your clients. Interior Decorator interactions only generate gig interest bubbles in the career menu... which are important to keep in mind of course since those are the things the clients will want in the renovation (and *nothing* else), but do be careful not to have anything in the renovation that clients dislike, even if they asked for them, however this may not matter if only one or two sims dislike something... in a large household. Yes, I am very careful and assume that all clients will be picky as. lol They have been very picky at times, and I greatly dislike failure. lololo
i am a nifty knitting apologist- all of my sims knit and the collab with all the other packs makes me so happy but for non fiber art people i understand
The seasons pack that broke farming, without this pack it work as it should. There is a mod that you can disable the effect of seasons on harvestables, it stop the bug.
@@derralle5705 There is actually two mods options. One from littleMsSam called "gardening workaround fix". It check plant state and fix after some time in the lot. And Carl season tuner. It have a lot more options to control season, disable snow, disable season effects only on plants, a cheat to make sunny day.
Bust the Dust has exactly ONE thing you can do for my gameplau style. I like to have a child raise a toddler. Child can't put Toddler in bath BUT Child can hoover the Tot to raise hygiene. 😂
After seeing this I really hope Sims 5 or whatever has done more planning for whatever packs they'll put out because looking at this list I see so much overlap. So many things that could've been a single pack are split across 2-3 sometimes even 4 packs.
Get Together is in my need category. It is one of my favorite packs. As well as Seasons, Get to Work and City Living. Everything else is meh except for Batuu and MWS which are both under hate it/delete it for me.
I love how you put realm of magic high on your list cause a lot of sims youtubers rate them very low. I finally found someone who kinda likes it as I do 😊. It has been the center of my every sims 4 gameplay since its release.
Thanks, I'm thinking of giving TS4 a chance yet again. I'm a fan who discovered the franchise through the handheld spinoffs and I played most of the games including TS1. I'm really only interested in TS4 due to the mods and the feel of a new experience since I barely played it. This video is helpful to know what to choose.
I like growing together EP but you’re right it could have came with a little more maybe the ability to attend school with child sims or attending daycare with the toddlers ….maybe it could have upgraded the babysitting career and maybe that a now live career …but I do overall like it 🤷🏽♀️😅
I think with Sims4, most packs are wrongly classified and creators too dont know which pack label should include what level of content.. Some kits feel like stuff packs, some stuff packs feel like game packs or kits, some game packs feel like expansions and some expansions… feel like game packs at best. I like aesthetic worlds that gives a sense of different culture/vibe and even a climate, and not just a different but similar pretty views… So I like island living and pets cos of it. And i just have to have a fluffy friend so no matter how bad it is, pets is a must have for me too.. But mostly you just KNOW most game packs should have been released together as expansions like pets and horses, maybe snowy escape and jungle adventures under “vacation/bon voyage”, get together and city living as former doesnt have gameplay to be worthy of being an expansion pack, parenthood with growing together and ofc we all know so many if not all of the stuff packs… just should have been combined to be a game pack or should have been IN the released game/expansion packs Like tiny living, eco lifestyle and laundry day… or nifty knitting, bowling, movie hangout could be a “hobbies pack” like sims 2 freetime. Like we ALL KNOW, horse ranch is a pack made of half cottage living and half of pets.. when horses should have been in pets and lambs and aesthetic should have been in cottage living.. And because that is mostly the case of all packs, to have the full experience of a pack, to have the full aesthetic and theme, you need multiple packs combined sadly. And as long as the old simmers that have played sims, sims 2 and sims 3 prior to sims 4, feel that contents WERE taken out surely from packs released to be made into a seperate pack, and feel cheated basically, i dont think most of us can be interested in a pack for more than a few days… Like when 1 sims 3 pack came out, you’d need multiple generations and sims to have experienced everything on it. But Sims 4 feels more like “experience it then be done with it, then start waiting for the next pack”.. which is a shame as theyve done some good things like the occult systems are neat how u level up but even that… once you reach the top feels empty. Bought and downloaded ALL packs almost besides some kits and stuff packs… But i am downloading Sims 3 again and cant wait for a game that actually keeps my mind busy with all the things i can do.
half of what i love is in your hated and dont buy list. i cant afford to buy all of them, so i have to wait for a sale. the only way i can get more than 1, is i distribute the cash between the game packs, stuff packs, and kits. plus 1 expansion. after 1 year of game play. my only expansions are cats and dogs, get together, and get to work. the rest of the time, i get 1 or 2 game packs, 1 stuff pack and 1 kit. i build my own households, and let them play. i make them get pregnant and stuff like that, but i basically let them play by themselves and see what happens.
I created a merman on Island Living with $0 money. He had to start digging and fishing right away on that one empty island. He sold everything until he got enough for a cooler and from there his little island grew. It was quite a challenge keeping him alive at the beginning. I played him for about 6 months before he died from electrocution from trying to fix his off-grid fridge in the rain. RIP Luca! I guess it depends on how you play the island?
I agree with you when you say that the packs are only worthwhile when there's a sale on. I'm still missing the last 3 large packs. They are also currently on offer. But I still can't motivate myself to buy them because even combined they hardly offer enough gameplay to keep me entertained over the holidays.
idk when being a gameplay focused sims player became the minority but really appreciate a pack breakdown like this. it sounds absolutely WILD when i look at reviews and they are like "the pack is broken, i got bored but the bb/cas makes it totally worth it!!!" 😑🙃🥴
realm of magic's magical village/shopping area actually broke my heart, it's just a prop studio, what a huge missed chance for a bustling enchanted diagon alley
I so disagree with the lack of gameplay in Discover University! Yes the rabbithole classroom is a tad disappointing, but it was a rabbithole in sims 2 too. But the gameplay is genuinely challenging in terms of juggling coursework, paying for classes and accommodation and being part of clubs and societies. And there is more to the University experience than classes! You can have room mates, part time jobs (ok, we've always had part time jobs, but it really adds to the true uni experience), clubs and societies including all the events they put on whihc you can attend even if you aren't a member... In terms of overall gameplay I love Discover University. It does lose a couple of points for the lack of knowing exactly how your grade are, but once you get a hang of calling your professors and decoding their feedback it gets easier. I also dislike "graduation", which is just standing around for a few Sims hours getting excited wkih your classmates, the watching a rabbithole fir another few sims hours then boom, University experience over. I do agree with the ending of the experience is extremely lacklustre, but that doesn't take the overall experience down too much. In terms of overall gameplay I really like Discover University and it's a firm favourite and I do think if you have the money it's worth the spend.
I generally agree overall with your expansion pack ratings. Nice to see someone talk sense about Growing Together too, though I would have put it at Delete It. Definitely wouldn't notice if it just uninstalled itself
Satch is on point with saying that just play a farming sim game rather than Cottage Living if you really want farming. I like farming sims but I personally don't like Cottage Living. It's a way better deal than the mess that is Horse Ranch though I don't know why people love that pack based on James Turner's survey. Maybe it's because his audience are more of cottagecore meanwhile I like modern stuff more (Eco Lifestyle, City Living) especially the Scientist career in Get to Work.
Merry Christmas, Satch. I am mildly considering getting Seasons, now. I was ready to never purchase another Sims thing, essentially boycotting S4, but maybe Seasons will be 80% off at one point... I might strongly consider buying it then.
I agree with get together I don’t think I could play the game without making clubs of friends for events and stuff, I feel like nifty knitting was a great stuff pack for what it was. you can unlock a bunch of clothes, sell it on plopsy, gives a new hobby, makes new items . I want more crafting stuff like that
Snowy escape is very good pack in general, just by lookin at opinions. The only bad thing is climbing to Mt.komorebi cuz there is a lack of activity you can do same as snowboarding. Sounds good but its meh. I mainly bought it for build mode and world
You some really valid points with good reasoning! Thank you for sharing! I personally love playing in Sulani. I agree with your critique, but, to me, it's just so pretty that I don't care, whoops.
Paranormal stuff is probably the only pack I’d say is 100% worth the price and could argue it may even be worth more. Seasons is mandatory and I’d argue it’s a must buy even at original price, as playing without it just feels wrong.
Do you think the lack of content & gameplay in the recent expansions is a factor of inflation? What I mean is, instead of raising the price of these packs and keeping the same level of content we expect, there's less content for the same price - a result of increasing costs of labor, real estate, etc. Or maybe they're just running out of ideas.
Unfortunately, when it comes to growing together, I still haven't bought it yet cause it is expensive, even when it's gone on sale. However, in order to enjoy playing with infants you kind of need it. Without the milestones system the infants have nothing... except enjoying or hating food. They're a worse version of toddlers at that point. At least toddlers have skills to learn and can have an achievement if they're raised well. Infants... have nothing in base game 🥲🫤 So if you want family game play you should get growing together and parenthood... or just age up the infant to toddler right away
You say Sims packs are expensive? Well in Poland, since we still have polish zloty as a currency, we have to pay almost five times more (even tho 1 dollar costs about 4 zlotys) so for example, when you pay 39,99$ for For rent, we pay... 189,90 polish zlotys. Seems a lot for us. You have good prices, really.
I started buying sims4 content when it came out, which is 10 years ago now. If I bought all the content at full price (which I didn't, I bought a lot of things on sale, etc.) it would be around $1000. So about $100 a year :) That doesn't make me rich (and I'm not) but I do own all the content except a few of the kits. I agree with a lot, but not all, of your assessments, but ya know, opinion and different playstyles. I personally think you want to play the sims like other kinds of games where they tell you what to do, but this game (in all its iterations) is about you making up the story. But the game is often buggy, occasionally broken, and base game alone (at least when it came out) pretty boring. I think it's better now, but I would like to say if a new player buys only the things in your "needs" category (only one is a purchase, and that is not much at all on sale right now), I suspect they'll be pretty bored pretty quickly. It takes more than that to be a fun game. If you're a newbie, and can afford a few packs, I strongly suggest getting a couple of others - choose them by playstyle. If you like families, there are ones that clearly fit. If you like exploring worlds with a single sim or couple, others work better for that. My currently playthrough is in a style kind of like other content creators where I play through each pack in order and try to explore everything that pack has to offer. I'd also suggest doing that if you're new. It's fun. Come up with family (single sim or 8 sims) ideas that fit each pack you own and try to do everything in it. Several of the packs ARE very buggy (for rent particularly) but not always in ways that take the fun out of it. I'm having a blast with that pack. It's fun anyway, around the bugs. And making some of the other worlds fun again as well as I can add a neat new way to play to them. At least it isn't Conan Exiles who completely locked a good number of their players all the way out of the game for about a month. EA is bad. I'll never buy another sims game - this is the last. But there are worse things.
I agree with both of you. (If not much money for game better don't buy any pack, save your money), choose what you like based on your play style, BUT avoid the broken ones (my wedding stories, dine out, currently dream home decorator also has the cannot-end-the-gig bug, currently for rent.. what else?).
weird i never would have associated strangerville with stranger things but it makes a lot of sense, maybe less 80's, I thought they were trying to do a sims 2 strangetown (pc and psp story version) throwback
An idea I thought of is to make the DLCs combine with other DLCs. An example of this being if you have the Rent DLC and the Haunted DLC, you could make a haunted hotel. Another exmaple being the pets DLC and the Business DLC allowing you to make a Pet caring business. EA and players will benefit. As EA will get more money as the DLC's look 'worth it' to get as content gets added, making less valued DLCs suddenly worth getting. Players would also get more content; for those that have many/all DLCs this would essentially be a free update. UA-camrs would also play an interesting part as Ranking DLC videos would have to take into considering each DLCs combination. Tho just an IMO.
Greatly appreciate the video! Added some much needed perspective for deciding which games I'm going to purchase! I think I'll forever be sad about My Wedding Stories 😭 I'd never been so excited and unfortunately... if anyone has mod recs to fix it... I'd buy it 🤧🤣
Everytime there's a problem/bug with my game, I assume it's because of my mods/cc since I have A LOT. But almost every time, it turns out it's just The Sims 4 :))) Right now Dream Home Decorator is a Delete It for me cause it's broken, you can't end the gigs once you've completed all of the objectives. It's so freaking annoying. The holidays are also broken in Seasons. Only three sims will get the holiday traditions in your household. I always play with the holiday traditions so it's very infuriating for me. I'm shocked that they haven't fixed it yet. Also right now the lifetime rewards are bugged and you can re-purchase them even if you already got them. It's really annoying to try and figure out which ones you already have so you don't buy them again.
i never had any mods and cc, and dream home decorator WAS fine, except sometimes not getting paid (it's still a big bug though, because that's the main feature), UNTIL last year. This year (2023), like you, I CANNOT even end the gig. Before this year, at least the gig safely ended, the sim can go home. Now the sim can't even go home, the gig doesn't end. Yes, I also get the broken holidays. I think starting this year (2023). Only some sims get holidays, some other didn't. It WAS fine last year (2022).
Bust the Dust is an interesting one. The only part of Bust the Dust that I would call broken outside of perhaps one or two rare bugs is its functionality with homes that have little space. Sims can't use upright vacuums if there isn't enough room for them to vacuum and will just walk out of the house and cancel the interaction, _but..._ that's where the dust vacuums come in. They can do the work of the upright vacuums by vacuuming objects in the home. Not as many objects can be vacuumed as you _should_ be able to vacuum, but if you have one that can be vacuumed, you only have to vacuum that one object to clean that floor of the home. (Yes, yes. Apologies to the realism lovers. I'm sure the dust bunnies in this pack hurt you too. lol) I don't think that Bust the Dust is entirely shallow neither. I know a lot of simmers dislike Moodlets and ignore them generally, but they factor in with skill gain a lot and allow sims to perform certain tasks more effectively. Vacuuming a house gives sims powerful Focused Moodlets, so they can better perform with Programming, Gaming, possibly Gardening, Handiness, Robotics, and whatever other skills requiring a Focused Emotion, as well as getting a skill gain bonus while doing these things, and a bigger one if the sim is Very Focused. Also, dust bunnies... while quite needy like pets and little ones are, as dust bunnies should be, since you treat them like pets... give great rewards when properly taken care of, and are a viable rags to riches option.
I know you have to think about console players but I love all the occult systems because they seem to have really creative mods around them. RoM felt kind of meh after a while until I started using mods and now I love playing as a Spellcaster. Same with Mermaids and Vampires (I don't have Werewolves).
build mode and cas are my specialty, so I usually go for packs I know has good build objects and a nice cas, like a lot of people hate vintage glamor, but I love it because cas and bb
I agree with you except, I do like the live in butler you get with vintage glamour. Like you, I never pay full price for any of the expansions etc. They usually come down in price once they've had a load of bugs and bad reviews lol
Personally, I think this list is completely reasonable. But, I personally find the Dine Out pack doesn't really break, but it is quite lacking. I would have probably put it in 'Meh'. Only other difference is probably moving Cats & Dogs up to Good because of how I play, while it is a bit lacking I find the vet career incredible and I love how you can modify the pets so much, I've even gone as far as to recreate my Dogs into the sims.
Get Together Clubs broke my game balance-wise so hard. You almost need to self-police to stop yourself from just making a super specific club that use can abuse to level a skill or make money with. For example, you could have a club where the only rule is to cook, clean the house and fix the garden.
First let me say, I think you need a category for "broken" rather than just not good at all, those are different things. The reason Discover University is bad is that they don't update it for new careers, or if they do they do it later after people complain that they didn't do it. And I'm sorry, Eco Living environmental changes have nothing to do with what your sim does, nothing at all, its the "neighborhood plans" and what the player does in the world as in object choices for lots, NOT what your sim does such as cleaning up trash, that has NO EFFECT on the environment, its good points are the maker stuff and dumpster diving. Island Living... I don't care, I know its not one of the greats but I still love it, and it did do a better job with environmental change than Eco Living in that the sims have to actually physically do something to clean the island. I feel like Jungle Adventure adds something to a game that is otherwise essentially exactly the same, don't get me wrong it could have been done much better, it could have been World Adventures (which I think is the most ambitious and well made pack EVER) but I feel it does add to the game more than say Get Together. I absolutely LOVE Strangerville, and I just keep the save and continue from there for all the saves so I don't have to keep doing it and can just play around with it. I do like Journey to Batuu, when I want a truly evil sim or that just steals, I send them to Batuu and have them finish the Galactic Privateer thing so they can pickpocket and steal without a cooldown, yes it gets repetitive but what doesn't in Sims 4? I like the items in Outdoor Retreat and Spa Day, I like having my sims have to live in tents until they get enough money for a house, I like them camping in odd places, and Spa Day I love having my sims get their nails done, I'm sorry I like it real life so I want it for my sims. Personally I feel Home Chef Hustle is a hustle in that you can sell food on existing game selling tables but then they wanted us to pay for a pack to do an enhanced version of the same thing. I'm really really sorry to say this but I find Tiny Living ESSENTIAL because if you are starting out with a new sim and need to skill them quickly this is the way to go, I think of it as a tiny apartment and have them skill skill skill, then do whatever I want, and its NOT tiny boost to skilling. Kits, the few I got I was like SHINY! and that was it. They thing about Sims 4 is that MOSTLY the packs don't work together. For example, Sims 3 sculpting when you sculpted you could end up sculpting a chair for World Adventures, what you could make was limitless. In Sims 4 the closest they had to that was Discover University had classes and majors relating to every pack, until the next pack. As far as I can tell the only thing in Sims 4 that includes it all is dumpster diving, maybe prairie grass but I haven't played enough with it to know. Horse Ranch was a gift.
Get Together club system is something I use in almost every game play. For example, I make a club and I use the points earned to buy faster increase in skills. Or I make a repair club and have bunch of sins come and repair my stuff. Or make a kids homework club and have my kid do homework and make friends. With use of 😈 Whims the game is extra fun too with the club activities.
Merry Christmas Satch! I love your videos but particularly your tier lists! Cannot wait for you to update the sims worlds tier list with Chestnut Ridge and Tomarang!!
Packs are on sale and I need ✨justification✨ before purchasing
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Always buy packs on sale, now is the time
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@@kaant3327well shit im on console
The only game I would advocate onto cracking the game, because…. This company doesn’t deserve a cent of our hard earned money.
I like seeing more gameplay people. It feels like the EA and Sims team cater to the builders, people who will spend hours in build mode and could care less about gameplay. 😭
I know one of my favorite sims games was busting out and it heavily focused on gameplay and objectives, I really liked it. Building is cool but not what I play for.
Same I don’t play for building.
I'm too lazy to be building stuff, I'd rather just snatch a home the gallery to play with
right like as much as i love building gameplay keeps me entertained wayy longer than building and doesnt get me as fustrated
We don’t have that much build stuff either ngl😂
Growing Together personally for me was needed to make infants not boring. I played with an infant two days before getting that pack and it got boring quickly. I know people have mixed feelings about the milestones but I think the milestones for infants really makes you feel like the infants are developing/ getting older. They can be difficult and kinda hectic but it adds a challenge to your sims life. My only gripe with Growing Together was that there was no active daycare career. They had that in sims 3 so why couldn't they do that in sims 4? I know there is a mod now...but it should have been included in the pack.
I also feel like one of the few people that like Snowy Escape and Horse Ranch, lol.
I love SE's world and the culture and the festivals are quite fun too. I also like snowboarding, rock-climbing and the hiking trails.
As for Horse Ranch, I love horses and nectar-making. I also like the mini-sheep and goats. Basically if you want a big farm with lots of animals get this pack with Cottage Living.
HSY isn't buggy for me. It could have been implemented better but I do feel like it does give me something to do with teens. I also really like social bunny and trendy.
The only pack that I don't really like is Get Famous. I basically got it for the acting career. And I do like the streaming station they have where your sim can make their own videos and make money. But that's about it. I wish the world would have been more like a city. I usually have my actors live in San Myshuno rather than the bland world that it comes with.
active daycare career would have made Growing Together infinitely more well rounded, I agree. I also agree with you on the milestones being a big deal for family. It's just such a shame that they kind of fall off at childhood and become pointless
I agree with you. I never understood the hype of Get Famous (I rarely use it, I had problems with my game because I locked the option to have fame from the start... I felt like it was corny and very unrealistic. I had to turn it back on because it was interfering with my game in the Farm Pack).
I also really enjoy the Horse Ranch and the Snowy Escape pack. My version of Olive Spectre is a three-time widow that occupies her time with her horse ranch and making sure her niece stays dressed and fed. 🤣 I felt like the Sims 2 version lacked a hobby. Now she knits, does gardening and takes care of her beloved champion horse Thanatos. She is laying her eyes on potential husband number four (Don Gooseman).
Now seriously, I feel like there are things they could have done: an active kindergarden with a career as an educator or an after-school activity (horse riding) besides drama club or scouts for children (I am sick of those two options), even with the island pack they could have added the swim club. High School is still very bugged, true, I was never able to sneak out and I tried literally EVERYTHING I saw on the Internet. That has to mean something, right? I was expecting the growing up pack to have other things as well like active senior homes and making it a career (since is something so real) or FINALLY the private school option (I miss sims 2)... but I disagree with other packs.
Honestly I played infants for awhile without growing together, just got it during the sale. Base game infants were only a slight upgrade from the cradle locked newborns. I know Parenthood was pre-infants, but I got that first. While it is more about the parent gaining parenting skills then the kids milestones, I still was pretty happy with just parenthood for ages. The infants are still a lot to handle but it still added enough dynamics I was perfectly ok with waiting until late next year to by growing together or until it was at a reasonable price.
As I am never JUST raising an infant, even without growing together I had fun with them. Of course I started on growing together with a complex family that was already in progress (twin infants, a toddler, and a child) so the challenge added up fast. And I don’t know that with that big of a household I clocked or appreciated every milestone to be honest, especially with two working parents. I am happy to have a few things like the treehouse and kids bikes and I like the compatibility system, but I am so far unimpressed by milestones. In a home with just an infant I’d maybe notice more.
The thing I wanted most from growing together was that gosh darn baby carrier to be honest. I had a CC changing table that worked with base game.
I got Horse Ranch at a discount and I really love it. I currently have a save with two ranches at the moment - one in Henford that focuses primarily on animals and raising Thoroughbred race horses and the other in Chestnut Ridge that revolves around nectar making and breeding horses for western pleasure riding. I also keep a personal record of the horses' genetics so when I breed them, I can recolor the foals properly, as well as add further complexity to the game. I can understand where people are coming from when they say the pack doesn't have a lot of depth; it takes a lot of imagination and creativity to make it work. But for people who love horses and breeding/genetics, I think it can be really fun. I've noticed a lot more bugs since installing the pack (could also be a result of my mods interfering with the pack as well), but nothing game-breaking. But as somebody who likes to watch chaos occur autonomously, I sometimes enjoy the weird stuff that happens.
I have both Snowy Escape and Get Famous. Snowy escape is kinda underrated imo and I wouldn’t be able to live without it cause ✨Kiyoshi Ito✨ exists. All my girls get with him every game😭
Also I don’t really regret buying Get Famous cause I like what it comes with, the acting career and video station and all, but I still wish there was more. The world is boring af and it’s just kinda basic
Best packs is get together + seasons. Best combo ever, I bought these two packs together and the amount of gameplay added to my game was amazing.
Yeah honestly I feel like get together is a must have in order to make the other packs more fun. Only thing that makes high school years fun for me is the fact can make "cliques" in the game with get together
I am very thankful that you don't bullsh*t about the packs you just say what they are what they do and show truthfully if it's a good pack or bad pack
As someone who plays the sims but doesn't feel the need to purchase every pack, I love your honest reviews. I feel like they needed to combine cats and dogs with horse ranch like in the sims 3. Same thing with werewolves and vampire, they should have just combined them. The sims 3 felt you got some much more bang for your buck with packs
I like Get Together a lot. It's got group dancing, dj mixing, and then with the dj's you can create real nightclubs. The club system is one of the very few things the Sims team keeps updated--it has cross-functionality with most other packs' gameplay. The club system helps you make friends, build skills, set up family, party, or other group activities. And then the sims actually mostly do those activities. It makes the whole game feel more alive.
I love get together. I love Windenburg.
Same!! I make a lot of clubs and place them on different lot types to make my world lively
As a legacy player, I also created a club with all of my legacy household's extended family. I used MCCC to increase the limit of club members so I can have around 20+ people in my clubs. They're more convenient to use for family gatherings than the base game events !!
@@krizcruz3 Great idea!
@krizcruz7359 Yes! I use Get Together the same way, to make venues more lively. It's especially great when playing rotationally. There will usually be a club meeting wherever my sim is, and they can meet my other sims and make friends in a realistic way. Get Together tends to be underrated.
and i love how you can hook sims up!!
I'm still frustrated that we don't have singers and bands still 😆That definitely should have came with Get Famous. I definitely agree about Cats & Dogs because they seem so lifeless and pointless in having in my household. They need more things to do. Especially horses! Omg the horses just idle for HOURS in my game.
Just stocking stuffer, but I want to support you. You’re a great person,as I appreciate your advice on personal things and sims 4. You encourage to live unapologetically. Merry (hopefully snowy) Christmas to you and much love Satch!
Thank you so much for your support!
Hey Satch! Merry Christmas (to everyone celebrating)!!! Thanks for posting even though it's a holiday.
I mainly agree with your choices and rankings, although the only reason I like Growing Together is because of the milestones of the infants. Without the pack, infants go from being objects in a crib to being able to crawl and sit, and it's immersion breaking. I like the fact that infants can't do anything unless they actually learn it - like lifting their head, first laugh, etc.
Not to mention they're just boring.
@@daliam8715 exactly. The whole infant stage is just pointless.
It really goes down to storyline you have in mind for a sim, this game is just a dollhouse symulator after all.
Every save I make I think about the storyline for my character and play as if it's a TV show unfolding, it really helps to visualize where the gameplay is going without getting stuck and not knowing what to do
@@thelittlespanishgirl I'd say my saves are more of a interactive illustration, even if its just a vibe to portray I like to have it existing somewhere lol.
Get Together is the most important pack to my gameplay. I have Sims in clubs full time. It increases their skill rate as you earn perks, and there is also one that basically eliminates the need to eat, sleep or pee. To me it makes the entire game more playable. There is a greater chance of death by hysteria as it amplifies good moods. But that's okay. Resurrection is easy enough, lol.
As a “secondary” user of the English language 😂, have a MERRY Christmas. I’ve had a rough year and your videos have been a welcome treat. Thank you!
Wow that's amazing! Thank you so much. Merry Christmas!
can you be my sugar mama pls i need
I'm starting to think you guys don't know how to have fun! When Outdoor Retreat was one of five packs I had in my jailbroken game, I had my sim go and find all the different growable plants and collect all the bugs without cheating on what time/where they spawned. She ended her collection with the elusive Will-o-the-wisp and found the Hermit's house, ending up falling for hermit Bruce and marrying him. They had 5 kids and Bruce went out the way he wanted, via CowPlant. Get creative y'all.
that sounds fun! unfortunately i'm not creative enough..
I agree with Growing Together 100%. I got it for my birthday and it is so shallow! I really think that was meant to be a base game (infant stuff, and milestones) update and a Parenthood refresh. I also think Horse Ranch and For Rent were meant to be refreshes too. How else would there be 3 EP in one year!
Now that there's a sims sale, this video is perfect because I was needing help to choose a pack.
I agree with this list 100%. My biggest gripe with Growing Together was that it felt necessary to buy. I truly think milestones should have come with the infant update as a huge base game update. Milestones aren’t big enough of a feature to be bought. Infants without Growing Together are no better than newborns locked to their cradle imo, especially with how long of a life stage it is. It’s also absolutely appalling that things like the playmat were locked behind an expansion paywall.
I just got the Bust the Dust pack and just I LOVE IT! The dust adds so much ambience and annoyingly realistic game play and the dust bunnies are so cute! The dust bunnies can be befriended and become indoor bunny pets that don’t age or die - unlike the cottage living bunnies that keep dying even if I turn off animal aging!
"I just got" Yeah, give it 6 months of those dust bunnies and you'll be downloading mods to decrease their spawn, nerf their gifts, and shut the the F up.
@@shigeminotoge4514yea i always turn it off, loved it at first, it’s okay for $5 ig
I find it kinda hilarious you praise the pack for realisim, but are also excited about unaging dust bunny pets…..it’s kinda hilarious. I mean, do you, enjoy your pack. But I would put dust bunny pets, especially immortal ones, firmly in ‘not realisim’. 😂😂
@@TheDawnofVanlife Sometimes fantasy can be made more intriguing by grounding it with realism, or vice versa to make realism seem more engaging and grounded by juxtaposing it with fantasy. Enjoying one or the other does not need to be mutually exclusive, and one can be used to successfully enhance the other.
I'm not sure that's necessarily what's going on here with the $6.99 "Bust the Dust" kit DLC for The Simsᵀᴹ 4. Because it's questionable as to whether there is actually any substance here to analyse to such a capacity. I'm simply saying that invalidating someone's favourable opinion of realism or fantasy simply because they espouse the other as well in the same breath is not always entirely valid.
@@shigeminotoge4514It wasn’t that deep of a comment, all of sims is honestly a few fantastical things grounded in mostly reality. Like a 20/80 split. Like Patchy coming to life and tending your garden…total fantasy but people love Patchy. Imaginary friends coming to life in Sims 3, total fantasy but people have been clamoring for the return of imaginary friends. I actually don’t own any of the occult packs so I do not care, but the cries for faries and real unicorns in Sims 4 are shouted about everyday. I totally get it. I also think it’s the wrong word entirely. It’s less ‘realisim’ and more ‘authentic challenge’. Like having to fix the electrical box in For Rent is closer to an authentic landlord challenge while dealing with the ghost haunting isn’t. Sims usually has a bit of both and different strokes for different folks on where the goofy things are fun and enjoyable and where they aren’t. But it still isn’t realisim.
Everyone always hates on Get to Work but it adds so much gameplay. I just got University and it just has the University rabbit holes to attend and is so buggy. Get to Work has multiple interactive jobs and the ability to build and own shops. 😊
Watching this vid while doing Christmas countdown. Happy Holidays Satch!
ETA: Thank you Satch for giving Get to Work and Get Famous the love that they deserve! IMO, those 2 EPs are also a must-have ❤
frr i love get famous
My favorites are city living and island living. Totally into the vibes and the social interactions! ❤ 🌴🧜♀️ the scenery in island living is to die for!
Get to work is also required for Zerbu's Turbo careers mod to work, which makes all base game careers active!
I just got Seasons and…it’s fine. Not blown away, but the price was finally too good to ignore. I was worried about feeling overwhelmed by to-do list of the holidays and changing weather messing up my Sims lives. I moved from the East Coast of the US to the West Coast - California (Bay Area) where there is mild weather all year and didn’t miss massive weather changes at all, wasn’t bothered. Neutral all year weather is cool with me. Having aging on and rasing my sims kids was my time progression as well as other sim families aging around me.
What I do like in the Seasons pack tho is a sense of geography so I do like if my Sim takes a vacation in Sulani during the winter they actually DO have different weather then the Sim had at home. Even popping over to San Myshuno from Willow Creek you might hit a storm not going on at home and I will say this added the most variety to my play more than anything. And made each map feel more like a definitively different place then the other.
As troubled as the For Rent launch has been, it is a need for me especially for that sense of geography. The Home Regions Mod does a great job at keeping Sims from crossing over into worlds they don’t live in. But can make the population of worlds with smaller lot counts REALLY small. The custom apartments have allowed me to increase each neighborhood population more effectively.
Since you've played around with the pack I have to ask, do you think the garden system in Seasons is fleshed out enough or is country living still a necessary add on? I'm tempted to just stick with seasons, but I don't want it if the gardening is worthless without further expansions.
i love your suggestions for waiting for not paying full price. so true!
I like Nifty Knitting. As someone who likes to crochet, being able to have my sims do something similar is fun! Also, I like the build-mode stuff
Definitely my most used stuff pack ^^
This may be silly to say but I feel like sims 4 for rent is a need especially if you have other packs which most summer do. The reason I say it’s a need is that it brings multi family lots unfortunately not multi functioning lots which needs to be added. But that really expands and creates bigger worlds. Especially for worlds like Delsol valley. A very small world but huge lots to add things like apartments. As for me it’s a need.
I would agree with you if the pack wasn't so broken that the gameplay basically doesn't work. For builders is great tho
@@PedroHenrique-fz3jc yea that’s true! But there are work arounds it’s bjust frustrating that we keep getting glitchy packs….but I think my comment aged well.
there's a discount going on right now, good timing for a video like this
i'll forever defend snowy escape haha. i might be biased since i quite like japanese culture, and i also got it before city living so festivals were entirely new in my game, but I think it comes with a lot of fun elements that are often overlooked because the pack is centered around winter sports that weren't implemented well so it's easy to trash it.
To me, it was a breath of fresh air after owning a whole bunch of american suburban/british countryside style packs, there was finally something in the game representing a culture other than western european. The world itself is very pretty, I like how there's the snowy area where you can ski/snowboard all year round, but you can also experience a normal Japanese town as well, which could have been done in a better way, but at least it's something. I think it adds some versatibility to the pack, another reason to purchase it besides playing winter sports and climbing mountains and I find myself using the pack quite a lot. I'm also a gameplay person, but I think it's awesome for build mode and CAS as well. Also, hiking!!!! it's not very exciting, i'll admit it, but I always use it for proposals haha, at least it looks nice, something different from willow creek.
For a pack about winter sports I find it disappointing how it lacks depth, but I think it's a better pack than, like, cats & dogs by MILES and you get more substance for the same price. It should've been called something else instead of snowy escape
Agree! I also like bringing my Sims to the hiking area, Senbamachi neighbourhood, for dates, family group hiking as well as for romantic proposals near the temple area, where the cherry blossom trees will be in the background. Also, love having my Sim go collect the random forest spirit dolls during hiking. And lastly, I also love love love Kiyoshi Ito from this pack. So... hehehe... (*pls don't judge me) I will forever support this pack! 😄😝
@@carmenphoon YES oh my god i keep aging up Kiyoshi and adding it to every single family i make istg the only good looking male sim from the entire game haha XDD i do the same stuff, hiking is very nice for family gameplay, you can make your sims do morning jogs if they live nearby too, it's nice because they can break out from the monotomy of the game by doing something that's not a rabbithole activity.
@@jamieblaireglad to hear Kyoshi is popular bc allll my sims get w/ him (or his dad 🌚)
@@jamieblaire Personally, I think this pack came with the most attractive looking Sims. Kiyoshi will always be my bias in the game, in every saved game that I have, I will always make sure he doesn't die. Because, I just can't see him die. Thank goodness for MCCC! 😜😝
@@findingbrooki yup, Naoki is good looking too, if only he is not mean. But at least he is family oriented.
I have
-Romantic garden
-Jungle adventure
-Fancy party (something like that)
-Christmas free stuff
-My first pet (Don't have cats and dogs but cas is still usable 💅🏻)
-And something I cannot remember
For free from official sales and I am collecting slowly ✨
You are incredible and so genuine, honest, and I appreciate you Satch
I missed the part from Sims2 is when a sim’s job progress their carpool car progresses as well. And also the schools bus
Thanks for posting today! Holidays are tough for me and you always make me smile❤️
omg thank you for being so honest about growing together! I have the exact same thoughts about growing together! after I purchased it I could not believe how they called it an expansion pack when it's barely any gameplay, the milestones doesn't even impact my Sims life all that much. I was so disappointed, but I learned my lesson and that's why I haven't purchased the for rent yet, and I probably won't until there's a really really good price on it..
I honestly trust your opinion more than, for example, lilsimsie's or any other sims 4 youtuber when it comes to these things simply because you don't care what people say about you for telling the truth ❤ Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
I mean I love Satch’s takes but you do know someone can just feel differently about the same thing. lilsimsie, who isn’t even someone I watch regularly, has said on multiple occassions, don’t buy packs full price. If you really want it wait for a sale.
@@TheDawnofVanlifei do like to eatch satch’s videos, and he does speak the truth. He’s very honest. But I’ve realised people nowadays absolutely cannot understand what they read or listen, interpretation skills are sorely lacking. Kayla ALWAYS shows us the bugs on every pack, she always says not to pay full price, she criticises EA a LOT… but just because she actually enjoys the franchise and manages to have fun playing, people say she’s a sellout and only says good things about the game regardless of the issues with EA.
Same for James Turner, he never hides the issues the game has, but just because he’s also on the creator network automatically he’s fake, a shill, whatever. Both him and Kayla don’t let the bugs get in the way of their videos because the videos are supposed to be enjoyable, otherwise EVERY content ever would be just complaining. It gets old very fast. But they still show (and tell) us the issues they faced with the game on the videos.
It seems, to me, at least, that people want vitriol, and not actual balanced content that allows you to make your own decisions whether or not you’re supposed to like or hate a pack.
To be completely clear, since people are going to think I’m saying Satch is hateful: I do NOT think that. He sound like a very honest person, to me, and I enjoy his videos a lot. I’m absolutely not saying HE is on the negative side of the sims/ea… fandom? Idk. He seems to care a lot about showing us the facts so we can spend our money carefully. But so do other content creators, even on EA’s network. People are allowed to enjoy parts of the game while recognising and sharing the parts that are shitty, of which there’s a LOT.
@@SNMarlenePreach!!! I love Satch but I also find his rankings biased to His playstyle and what He finds enjoyable. Not because he’s a ‘hater’ but because he’s human and like most people he likes what he likes. Also more than once I have seen him label something a bug that was honestly a mis-step on his part in gameplay. I am not saying the game isn’t buggy, it is! And I enjoyed his rankings for what they are. But Growing Together, for example, which I am ‘meh’ on is a family player’s pack and Satch is not into family gameplay so what’s super fun for people who play with families a lot Satch will very often dismiss as not gameplay or worth your time just because it wasn’t worth his time. It’s also why saying ‘I’m a gameplay and live mode person’ means literal nothing because ‘gameplay’ means different things to different people. Some people are all about challenges, some are into rags to riches, some play sims like an rpg, some cheat all the needs and have their sims live in a utopia where they have everything they need & the player takes in the endorphins of a perfect fantasy land, and some throw every torture in game at their sims…and some people just build. What makes sims ‘fun’ or ‘worth it’ is a varied experience.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Although I genuenly trust satch's opinion, I agree with you, but I just put lilsimsie as an example, I'm not saying she's fake (and I'm sorry If what I said seemed like it).
The reason why I trust satch's opinion so much it's because I play the sims 4 in a similar way to his style, I think I should've clarify that in the first place.
@@TheDawnofVanlife I understand what you mean but I do think Satch is very honest about what he likes and he says so I’m so many videos. He is, imo, really transparent regarding why he likes or dislikes something and where he’s coming from/ what his goals are. I appreciate that a lot. It’s up to people to pay attention to what content creators say and to understand that no one’s opinion is supposed to be the universal truth, and that who’s watching has to decide some things by themselves.
Regarding the gameplay part of what you said I 100% agree, but still Satch could bring us a laundry list of what he likes to do on the game, and people would still misunderstand him. Many people nowadays can’t really think by themselves, it’s really sad to see. Or they think things are black and white and who doesn’t agree with their own opinions are sellouts, liars, whatever. Exposure brings scrutiny, and not all of the latter ends up being fair, unfortunately.
I love the Paranormal Stuff Pack, cause it's a gameplay pack for the price of a stuff pack
im so glad I found his channel its like finding your soulmate but instead of being an romantic oriented thing it's in the ts4 creator networkism and he is the chosen one that can't be challenged
Great review😊Personally the cats and dogs pack is worth it for owning a vet clinic, I like the gameplay. But owning the actual pet for sure feels meaningless in the game!
you could rank them 200 more times and i’m still gonna watch it every time
I think dine out it should be in meh because it cool if you want romantic relationship and something like that
As a gameplay Simmer I really appreciate this video!
Ich kann nicht glauben, dass das Basisspiel kostenlos ist, aber Growing Together ist im Grunde ein Basisspiel für 34. Das Basisspiel ist also sinnlos, aber man braucht es wie ein kostenloses Spiel, aber Growing Together ist das „vollständige Erlebnis“.
Du hast Recht, ich hätte gerne öfter einen Kommentar. Nun, ich glaube, ich bin es verdammt noch mal nicht, dass Zacxlo es getan hat. Scheiße, er hat mir das Telefon gestohlen
The one thing about nifty knitting and laundry day I do like is that they did it based on player's voting. I believe the consensus for paranormal stuff is that so many people wanted happy haunts they decided to add it, which either way was a really good move. Still, I feel like it shows a lot what players want and was a good way of getting the community involved
Or buy a key from another website and enter the key origins. You save so much more money that way.
I personally think of Dream Home Decorator the same way Satch thinks of Tiny Living. It's there to encourage you to get more creative with build/buy mode while working within constraints... plus I really enjoy interior design. Sure, you need to do a fair amount of work (interviewing them and even taking notes irl) to understand what your decorator gig clients want and don't want and have to find a middle ground there, but I think it's satisfying when you do well, even if the work might end up looking ridiculous. lol That's part of the fun for me. lol Gigs also get you using the build/buy filters quite a bit.
Anyone who says it's too easy to satisfy your clients in Dream Home Decorator hasn't done gigs where there are multiple sims with multiple likes and dislikes. If you don't do enough interviewing and don't consider the likes and dislikes, especially when they conflict with one another, you can easily fail your gig.
If you're thinking that you can't properly interview your clients, consider that you might not be using the right social interactions, and no, the Interior Decorator ones aren't always enough.
"Ask About Hobbies and Skills", "Ask About Favorite Color", and "Ask About Taste In Decor" are all crucial questions to ask your clients. Interior Decorator interactions only generate gig interest bubbles in the career menu... which are important to keep in mind of course since those are the things the clients will want in the renovation (and *nothing* else), but do be careful not to have anything in the renovation that clients dislike, even if they asked for them, however this may not matter if only one or two sims dislike something... in a large household.
Yes, I am very careful and assume that all clients will be picky as. lol They have been very picky at times, and I greatly dislike failure. lololo
i am a nifty knitting apologist- all of my sims knit and the collab with all the other packs makes me so happy but for non fiber art people i understand
The vibe of city living really is great, shame the appartment dlc had little to do with it.
Agree, only buy on sale!! Seasons, Vampires, and Cottage Living are my favs right now.
I wish they would add pinky rings to the game. Like why is there no pinky ring option?
The seasons pack that broke farming, without this pack it work as it should. There is a mod that you can disable the effect of seasons on harvestables, it stop the bug.
Really? I need this mod. Desperately. Do you happen to remember the name or the creator of this mod?
@@derralle5705 There is actually two mods options. One from littleMsSam called "gardening workaround fix". It check plant state and fix after some time in the lot. And Carl season tuner. It have a lot more options to control season, disable snow, disable season effects only on plants, a cheat to make sunny day.
@@derralle5705I believe the OP is talking about the ‘seasons tuner’ mod by Carl. The same modder who does Carl’s Dine Out reloaded.
Tbh I wish EA just decided to remake the sims 3. I put almost 3000 hours into the sims 3 but I have barely 1200 hours in the sims 4 :(
Bust the Dust has exactly ONE thing you can do for my gameplau style. I like to have a child raise a toddler. Child can't put Toddler in bath BUT Child can hoover the Tot to raise hygiene. 😂
Whattt
This is the most hilarious thing
After seeing this I really hope Sims 5 or whatever has done more planning for whatever packs they'll put out because looking at this list I see so much overlap. So many things that could've been a single pack are split across 2-3 sometimes even 4 packs.
Get Together is in my need category. It is one of my favorite packs. As well as Seasons, Get to Work and City Living. Everything else is meh except for Batuu and MWS which are both under hate it/delete it for me.
I love how you put realm of magic high on your list cause a lot of sims youtubers rate them very low. I finally found someone who kinda likes it as I do 😊. It has been the center of my every sims 4 gameplay since its release.
Thanks, I'm thinking of giving TS4 a chance yet again. I'm a fan who discovered the franchise through the handheld spinoffs and I played most of the games including TS1. I'm really only interested in TS4 due to the mods and the feel of a new experience since I barely played it. This video is helpful to know what to choose.
I like growing together EP but you’re right it could have came with a little more maybe the ability to attend school with child sims or attending daycare with the toddlers ….maybe it could have upgraded the babysitting career and maybe that a now live career …but I do overall like it 🤷🏽♀️😅
😩 I have 90% of the packs but I’ve bought them at full price. I need a return on my investment. 😂
I agree 100% with this tier list no bullshitting
I think with Sims4, most packs are wrongly classified and creators too dont know which pack label should include what level of content.. Some kits feel like stuff packs, some stuff packs feel like game packs or kits, some game packs feel like expansions and some expansions… feel like game packs at best.
I like aesthetic worlds that gives a sense of different culture/vibe and even a climate, and not just a different but similar pretty views…
So I like island living and pets cos of it. And i just have to have a fluffy friend so no matter how bad it is, pets is a must have for me too..
But mostly you just KNOW most game packs should have been released together as expansions like pets and horses, maybe snowy escape and jungle adventures under “vacation/bon voyage”, get together and city living as former doesnt have gameplay to be worthy of being an expansion pack, parenthood with growing together and ofc we all know so many if not all of the stuff packs… just should have been combined to be a game pack or should have been IN the released game/expansion packs
Like tiny living, eco lifestyle and laundry day… or nifty knitting, bowling, movie hangout could be a “hobbies pack” like sims 2 freetime. Like we ALL KNOW, horse ranch is a pack made of half cottage living and half of pets.. when horses should have been in pets and lambs and aesthetic should have been in cottage living..
And because that is mostly the case of all packs, to have the full experience of a pack, to have the full aesthetic and theme, you need multiple packs combined sadly. And as long as the old simmers that have played sims, sims 2 and sims 3 prior to sims 4, feel that contents WERE taken out surely from packs released to be made into a seperate pack, and feel cheated basically, i dont think most of us can be interested in a pack for more than a few days…
Like when 1 sims 3 pack came out, you’d need multiple generations and sims to have experienced everything on it. But Sims 4 feels more like “experience it then be done with it, then start waiting for the next pack”..
which is a shame as theyve done some good things like the occult systems are neat how u level up but even that… once you reach the top feels empty.
Bought and downloaded ALL packs almost besides some kits and stuff packs… But i am downloading Sims 3 again and cant wait for a game that actually keeps my mind busy with all the things i can do.
half of what i love is in your hated and dont buy list. i cant afford to buy all of them, so i have to wait for a sale. the only way i can get more than 1, is i distribute the cash between the game packs, stuff packs, and kits. plus 1 expansion. after 1 year of game play. my only expansions are cats and dogs, get together, and get to work. the rest of the time, i get 1 or 2 game packs, 1 stuff pack and 1 kit. i build my own households, and let them play. i make them get pregnant and stuff like that, but i basically let them play by themselves and see what happens.
I created a merman on Island Living with $0 money. He had to start digging and fishing right away on that one empty island. He sold everything until he got enough for a cooler and from there his little island grew. It was quite a challenge keeping him alive at the beginning. I played him for about 6 months before he died from electrocution from trying to fix his off-grid fridge in the rain. RIP Luca! I guess it depends on how you play the island?
I agree with you when you say that the packs are only worthwhile when there's a sale on. I'm still missing the last 3 large packs. They are also currently on offer. But I still can't motivate myself to buy them because even combined they hardly offer enough gameplay to keep me entertained over the holidays.
Thank you for this. New to the sims 4 so very helpful. Merry Christmas! 🎄
I’m honestly still not over the facts that bunnys aren’t pets 😂
idk when being a gameplay focused sims player became the minority but really appreciate a pack breakdown like this. it sounds absolutely WILD when i look at reviews and they are like "the pack is broken, i got bored but the bb/cas makes it totally worth it!!!" 😑🙃🥴
Just put the whole game in f teir and ea can go in the level below that..... hell tier
realm of magic's magical village/shopping area actually broke my heart, it's just a prop studio, what a huge missed chance for a bustling enchanted diagon alley
I so disagree with the lack of gameplay in Discover University! Yes the rabbithole classroom is a tad disappointing, but it was a rabbithole in sims 2 too. But the gameplay is genuinely challenging in terms of juggling coursework, paying for classes and accommodation and being part of clubs and societies. And there is more to the University experience than classes! You can have room mates, part time jobs (ok, we've always had part time jobs, but it really adds to the true uni experience), clubs and societies including all the events they put on whihc you can attend even if you aren't a member...
In terms of overall gameplay I love Discover University. It does lose a couple of points for the lack of knowing exactly how your grade are, but once you get a hang of calling your professors and decoding their feedback it gets easier. I also dislike "graduation", which is just standing around for a few Sims hours getting excited wkih your classmates, the watching a rabbithole fir another few sims hours then boom, University experience over. I do agree with the ending of the experience is extremely lacklustre, but that doesn't take the overall experience down too much. In terms of overall gameplay I really like Discover University and it's a firm favourite and I do think if you have the money it's worth the spend.
I generally agree overall with your expansion pack ratings. Nice to see someone talk sense about Growing Together too, though I would have put it at Delete It. Definitely wouldn't notice if it just uninstalled itself
Idk why but I’m obsessed with these type of videos 😭 so far I have every expansion pack except for horse ranch and for rent.
I absolutely love city living and seasons.
Satch is on point with saying that just play a farming sim game rather than Cottage Living if you really want farming. I like farming sims but I personally don't like Cottage Living. It's a way better deal than the mess that is Horse Ranch though I don't know why people love that pack based on James Turner's survey. Maybe it's because his audience are more of cottagecore meanwhile I like modern stuff more (Eco Lifestyle, City Living) especially the Scientist career in Get to Work.
Merry Christmas, Satch. I am mildly considering getting Seasons, now. I was ready to never purchase another Sims thing, essentially boycotting S4, but maybe Seasons will be 80% off at one point... I might strongly consider buying it then.
I agree with get together I don’t think I could play the game without making clubs of friends for events and stuff, I feel like nifty knitting was a great stuff pack for what it was. you can unlock a bunch of clothes, sell it on plopsy, gives a new hobby, makes new items . I want more crafting stuff like that
Unpopular opinion: I like get together and snowy escape. Don’t beat me😂😂😂😂
Snowy escape is very good pack in general, just by lookin at opinions. The only bad thing is climbing to Mt.komorebi cuz there is a lack of activity you can do same as snowboarding. Sounds good but its meh. I mainly bought it for build mode and world
You some really valid points with good reasoning! Thank you for sharing!
I personally love playing in Sulani. I agree with your critique, but, to me, it's just so pretty that I don't care, whoops.
Paranormal stuff is probably the only pack I’d say is 100% worth the price and could argue it may even be worth more.
Seasons is mandatory and I’d argue it’s a must buy even at original price, as playing without it just feels wrong.
Agree, bought it full prize and with it 💯%
Do you think the lack of content & gameplay in the recent expansions is a factor of inflation? What I mean is, instead of raising the price of these packs and keeping the same level of content we expect, there's less content for the same price - a result of increasing costs of labor, real estate, etc. Or maybe they're just running out of ideas.
I just got a ad for the sims romantic garden sims 4 lol. Anyway love 0:00 and 16:00 11:01.
Unfortunately, when it comes to growing together, I still haven't bought it yet cause it is expensive, even when it's gone on sale. However, in order to enjoy playing with infants you kind of need it. Without the milestones system the infants have nothing... except enjoying or hating food. They're a worse version of toddlers at that point. At least toddlers have skills to learn and can have an achievement if they're raised well. Infants... have nothing in base game 🥲🫤
So if you want family game play you should get growing together and parenthood... or just age up the infant to toddler right away
You say Sims packs are expensive? Well in Poland, since we still have polish zloty as a currency, we have to pay almost five times more (even tho 1 dollar costs about 4 zlotys) so for example, when you pay 39,99$ for For rent, we pay... 189,90 polish zlotys. Seems a lot for us. You have good prices, really.
I started buying sims4 content when it came out, which is 10 years ago now. If I bought all the content at full price (which I didn't, I bought a lot of things on sale, etc.) it would be around $1000. So about $100 a year :) That doesn't make me rich (and I'm not) but I do own all the content except a few of the kits.
I agree with a lot, but not all, of your assessments, but ya know, opinion and different playstyles. I personally think you want to play the sims like other kinds of games where they tell you what to do, but this game (in all its iterations) is about you making up the story. But the game is often buggy, occasionally broken, and base game alone (at least when it came out) pretty boring.
I think it's better now, but I would like to say if a new player buys only the things in your "needs" category (only one is a purchase, and that is not much at all on sale right now), I suspect they'll be pretty bored pretty quickly. It takes more than that to be a fun game. If you're a newbie, and can afford a few packs, I strongly suggest getting a couple of others - choose them by playstyle. If you like families, there are ones that clearly fit. If you like exploring worlds with a single sim or couple, others work better for that.
My currently playthrough is in a style kind of like other content creators where I play through each pack in order and try to explore everything that pack has to offer. I'd also suggest doing that if you're new. It's fun. Come up with family (single sim or 8 sims) ideas that fit each pack you own and try to do everything in it.
Several of the packs ARE very buggy (for rent particularly) but not always in ways that take the fun out of it. I'm having a blast with that pack. It's fun anyway, around the bugs. And making some of the other worlds fun again as well as I can add a neat new way to play to them.
At least it isn't Conan Exiles who completely locked a good number of their players all the way out of the game for about a month. EA is bad. I'll never buy another sims game - this is the last. But there are worse things.
I agree with both of you. (If not much money for game better don't buy any pack, save your money), choose what you like based on your play style, BUT avoid the broken ones (my wedding stories, dine out, currently dream home decorator also has the cannot-end-the-gig bug, currently for rent.. what else?).
i was literally just watching ur video on every expansion pack in sims 4
weird i never would have associated strangerville with stranger things but it makes a lot of sense, maybe less 80's, I thought they were trying to do a sims 2 strangetown (pc and psp story version) throwback
I got horse ranch for the clothes and horses... I'm obsessed. I was never a horse girl but man I'm becoming one.
An idea I thought of is to make the DLCs combine with other DLCs. An example of this being if you have the Rent DLC and the Haunted DLC, you could make a haunted hotel. Another exmaple being the pets DLC and the Business DLC allowing you to make a Pet caring business.
EA and players will benefit. As EA will get more money as the DLC's look 'worth it' to get as content gets added, making less valued DLCs suddenly worth getting. Players would also get more content; for those that have many/all DLCs this would essentially be a free update.
UA-camrs would also play an interesting part as Ranking DLC videos would have to take into considering each DLCs combination.
Tho just an IMO.
Greatly appreciate the video! Added some much needed perspective for deciding which games I'm going to purchase! I think I'll forever be sad about My Wedding Stories 😭 I'd never been so excited and unfortunately... if anyone has mod recs to fix it... I'd buy it 🤧🤣
Everytime there's a problem/bug with my game, I assume it's because of my mods/cc since I have A LOT. But almost every time, it turns out it's just The Sims 4 :)))
Right now Dream Home Decorator is a Delete It for me cause it's broken, you can't end the gigs once you've completed all of the objectives. It's so freaking annoying.
The holidays are also broken in Seasons. Only three sims will get the holiday traditions in your household. I always play with the holiday traditions so it's very infuriating for me. I'm shocked that they haven't fixed it yet.
Also right now the lifetime rewards are bugged and you can re-purchase them even if you already got them. It's really annoying to try and figure out which ones you already have so you don't buy them again.
i never had any mods and cc, and dream home decorator WAS fine, except sometimes not getting paid (it's still a big bug though, because that's the main feature), UNTIL last year. This year (2023), like you, I CANNOT even end the gig. Before this year, at least the gig safely ended, the sim can go home. Now the sim can't even go home, the gig doesn't end.
Yes, I also get the broken holidays. I think starting this year (2023). Only some sims get holidays, some other didn't. It WAS fine last year (2022).
Bust the Dust is an interesting one.
The only part of Bust the Dust that I would call broken outside of perhaps one or two rare bugs is its functionality with homes that have little space. Sims can't use upright vacuums if there isn't enough room for them to vacuum and will just walk out of the house and cancel the interaction, _but..._ that's where the dust vacuums come in. They can do the work of the upright vacuums by vacuuming objects in the home. Not as many objects can be vacuumed as you _should_ be able to vacuum, but if you have one that can be vacuumed, you only have to vacuum that one object to clean that floor of the home. (Yes, yes. Apologies to the realism lovers. I'm sure the dust bunnies in this pack hurt you too. lol)
I don't think that Bust the Dust is entirely shallow neither.
I know a lot of simmers dislike Moodlets and ignore them generally, but they factor in with skill gain a lot and allow sims to perform certain tasks more effectively. Vacuuming a house gives sims powerful Focused Moodlets, so they can better perform with Programming, Gaming, possibly Gardening, Handiness, Robotics, and whatever other skills requiring a Focused Emotion, as well as getting a skill gain bonus while doing these things, and a bigger one if the sim is Very Focused.
Also, dust bunnies... while quite needy like pets and little ones are, as dust bunnies should be, since you treat them like pets... give great rewards when properly taken care of, and are a viable rags to riches option.
I know you have to think about console players but I love all the occult systems because they seem to have really creative mods around them. RoM felt kind of meh after a while until I started using mods and now I love playing as a Spellcaster. Same with Mermaids and Vampires (I don't have Werewolves).
lol When Satch said that werewolves are the most fun occult to play with, I imagined him making a fun dad werewolf. lmaooo
build mode and cas are my specialty, so I usually go for packs I know has good build objects and a nice cas, like a lot of people hate vintage glamor, but I love it because cas and bb
I agree with you except, I do like the live in butler you get with vintage glamour. Like you, I never pay full price for any of the expansions etc. They usually come down in price once they've had a load of bugs and bad reviews lol
Personally, I think this list is completely reasonable. But, I personally find the Dine Out pack doesn't really break, but it is quite lacking. I would have probably put it in 'Meh'. Only other difference is probably moving Cats & Dogs up to Good because of how I play, while it is a bit lacking I find the vet career incredible and I love how you can modify the pets so much, I've even gone as far as to recreate my Dogs into the sims.
Get Together Clubs broke my game balance-wise so hard.
You almost need to self-police to stop yourself from just making a super specific club that use can abuse to level a skill or make money with.
For example, you could have a club where the only rule is to cook, clean the house and fix the garden.
Growing together is what got me back into the sims Ngl. Mainly cuz of the compatibility system. That being said. This should’ve been a free update
First let me say, I think you need a category for "broken" rather than just not good at all, those are different things.
The reason Discover University is bad is that they don't update it for new careers, or if they do they do it later after people complain that they didn't do it. And I'm sorry, Eco Living environmental changes have nothing to do with what your sim does, nothing at all, its the "neighborhood plans" and what the player does in the world as in object choices for lots, NOT what your sim does such as cleaning up trash, that has NO EFFECT on the environment, its good points are the maker stuff and dumpster diving. Island Living... I don't care, I know its not one of the greats but I still love it, and it did do a better job with environmental change than Eco Living in that the sims have to actually physically do something to clean the island. I feel like Jungle Adventure adds something to a game that is otherwise essentially exactly the same, don't get me wrong it could have been done much better, it could have been World Adventures (which I think is the most ambitious and well made pack EVER) but I feel it does add to the game more than say Get Together. I absolutely LOVE Strangerville, and I just keep the save and continue from there for all the saves so I don't have to keep doing it and can just play around with it. I do like Journey to Batuu, when I want a truly evil sim or that just steals, I send them to Batuu and have them finish the Galactic Privateer thing so they can pickpocket and steal without a cooldown, yes it gets repetitive but what doesn't in Sims 4? I like the items in Outdoor Retreat and Spa Day, I like having my sims have to live in tents until they get enough money for a house, I like them camping in odd places, and Spa Day I love having my sims get their nails done, I'm sorry I like it real life so I want it for my sims. Personally I feel Home Chef Hustle is a hustle in that you can sell food on existing game selling tables but then they wanted us to pay for a pack to do an enhanced version of the same thing. I'm really really sorry to say this but I find Tiny Living ESSENTIAL because if you are starting out with a new sim and need to skill them quickly this is the way to go, I think of it as a tiny apartment and have them skill skill skill, then do whatever I want, and its NOT tiny boost to skilling. Kits, the few I got I was like SHINY! and that was it.
They thing about Sims 4 is that MOSTLY the packs don't work together. For example, Sims 3 sculpting when you sculpted you could end up sculpting a chair for World Adventures, what you could make was limitless. In Sims 4 the closest they had to that was Discover University had classes and majors relating to every pack, until the next pack. As far as I can tell the only thing in Sims 4 that includes it all is dumpster diving, maybe prairie grass but I haven't played enough with it to know. Horse Ranch was a gift.
I currently own all expansions and most game packs so this is my justification to see if I want anything I don’t own yet 😅
Get Together club system is something I use in almost every game play. For example, I make a club and I use the points earned to buy faster increase in skills. Or I make a repair club and have bunch of sins come and repair my stuff. Or make a kids homework club and have my kid do homework and make friends. With use of 😈 Whims the game is extra fun too with the club activities.
Merry Christmas Satch! I love your videos but particularly your tier lists! Cannot wait for you to update the sims worlds tier list with Chestnut Ridge and Tomarang!!