just wanna say, it doesn’t matter that she spent 6-7 years in a classroom doing endless math, her actions are not justifiable and are downright selfish, THOUGH they do make sense for her character. doesn’t make her any better. and if anyone one is wondering, Liy may have got along with her team fast because she was in death pact, but the rest of the exitors were all sane at the very least. pencil has gone feral. i do still find her decent, and i do hope she stays long enough for her to get redemption take my opinion as a pinch of salt, i understand that you disagree but please don’t be rude about it.
different characters means different personalities and different personalities means they deal with stuff differently so it doesn't make sense to compare pencil and liy
Yeah no this is a rlly bad take, sorry for my rude behavior but it’s uhh clear you don’t understand Pencil as much as you think you do. If u want more info go check the comment I made
She's been eliminated 3 times. Honestly Pencil needs an arc not even a redemption arc, but one in general. Because Book and Ice Cube no longet like her, she's basically alone. Cloudyay was safe by 1 contestant anyway.
ngl, her reaction is honestly pretty realistic, when it feels like your world is falling apart, you ignore other people in the situation and pretend that all your efforts were for nothing, what she did was bad, but you still feel bad for her.
i kinda love her for this because you can't just expect every single character to be perfect, i like the flaws that pencil have. pencil def went up my tier list
@Memberinq no it literally isnt lol, they're not making pencil perfect on purpose which what makes her an interesting character. it is not bad writing at all.
pencil is a perfect example of a very flawed (but not horrible) person. She’s not malicious, she was a bad person before everything and being trapped for 6 years broke her, basically reducing the chances of her redemption to a stub, since now she feels justified in her behavior. She’s not horrible, she cares about other people, she’s a bad person, just not past redemption.
In ur statement pencil basically got the karma she deserves book and icy not talking to her means karmas a bitch she wishes to have her old life and just freesmart again but.. yea she just got the karma she deserves and needs to move on and make new friends
Stick Figure the reggae band? Well he makes songs with more than two words. In fact, it would be great being with an amazing music artist for 6-7 years. Obviously, unless you were talking about someone like David, but why ever would that happen!
Tbf, I understand her. She has been stuck trying to escape a classroom for SIX YEARS (also she has been there the longest), and as soon as she comes out, Match is taken away from her. Book and Icy refuse to even talk to her and she doesn’t know why. It is clear her mental state has been affected badly by all the events that occurred, and I get why she would try to go and fix her past. That obviously does NOT justify almost breaking the universe and killing everyone but it is understandable why she would be angry. I hope she isn’t voted out cuz I wanna see her continue her arc.
literallyyy, why can’t people understand that a character reaching a dramatic low tends to be preparation to build them up 😭 pencil went way up in my tier list this episode
This is how character development is made bro. Thats why Cloudyay wasn't put up for elimination. Her actions wont ever be justified but for Pencil, her world is already crumbled apart. She pushed away her friends, and no one likes her anymore. Pencil is an actual complex character in which you have to find meanings in her actions. Pencil has been my fav since day 1 and I say that this scene was very well done.
@glucosity When character development is made, the community is bound to split into those who hate and tho who love the character. Ig u n me just represent both those persectives, so fair opinion. Also I maybe shouldnt have worded my first comment the way I did, its just that when it comes to defending Pencil I sometimes get carried away. So im sorry if my comment was rude.
@glucosity Also idk why but I feel the need to say that people dont always deeply hate or like a character. People sometimes slightly dislike or like a character but however deep the feeling is, it always either falls under the category of like or dislike. (Ik the long explanation wasnt needed but I felt the need to say it since I had stated that people either hate or love a character when ik that the type of like or dislike can range from light to deep) Alr ima stop yapping now
she's probably under the assumption that if she gets eliminated, she's just gonna go through eternal algebra all over again. doesn't seem like she cares anymore even if it means that everyone else will get erased from existence lol
@TacokomiOSC liy was with stapy one of her best friends pencil was stuck with David and bracelety also like I said the people that liy new (bottle and pen) excepted her and talked to her when book and ice cube don't want anything to do with her she is scared of change while liy loves new adventures
@TacokomiOSC I'm talking about when they had separated to find a way out of four and liy and stapy formed a friendship while match was a later boot none of her tpot friends like her while liy had people also the thrill of the adventure to escape four must of kept her sane
I have a feeling Pencil was like that in that scene because she's still mad Book and Ice Cube are trying to avoid her, but she was hiding it and instead talked about the E.X.I.T for herself to sound more concerning. Pencil WAS a good leader (she even acted determined, seemed to care for Bracelety and David, etc.), there's Liy who is all fine and she probably even forgot about the E.X.I.T at this point, and Pencil just sucks at trying to make a point because she just complained about Roboty for the 3rd time. Despite all of this, personally I liked Pencil in TPOT 15 way more than in TPOT 14.
adding liy who is perfectly fine is not a good argument. They are two separate different characters??? That's like comparing two kindergarteners or smth.
No she’s not rogue. She’s broken. Pencil refuses to forget about the past because it affected her so much. She CAN’T let go. Because her actions has caused her to lose her reputation, her friends, her freedom. Even after being free from a cage for six years, she will never be free if doesn’t cope with the past and start a new life.
Was that black text at the bottom of the video in 0:15 your thinking? I’m asking because I golfball didn’t saw half of what was shown. (Also what does “delulu” mean?)
If Pencil was so affected by that, imagine other characters who didn't even rejoin in Tpot. like Dora, Stampy and Bracelety, I don't think they would be mentally well.
I can get why anyone would hate pencil, but her being the way she is, i’d say it’s good writing. Pencil has a long way to go considering that her team has been immune every time since she’s joined, so the writers are trying to keep her in.
If Pencil didn't want to face any consequences, then maybe she should have been more respectful in BFB 1. Golfball isn't even focused on the challenge and more on the events that are happening and she gets scolded for it. It's not Golfball's fault Pencil was eliminated back then. Pencil should have seen that coming.
Idk if is redemtion, but an end to this arc may come good, if they are keeping CloudYay safe, they might add more characters arc, like with pillow or yellow face
This interaction between pencil and golf ball. This could be an arc between them, they’re both very flawed people that have been rivals for the longest time. Pencil cares too much about her own feelings to consider others, and golf ball cares too much about her own goals to consider others. Both of them prioritize what they want over what others want, and here, golf ball seems genuinely concerned by pencil. They could both have an arc together to get the growth they both need, and that would be amazing, pencil learns to consider other’s wants, and golf ball learns to consider other’s feelings.
YEAHH NO. Sorry if this sounds rude but I disagree completely with all your points. Your first point in which Pencil says that others can clean that up, she’s referring that she doesn’t care what happens anymore, if someone cleans it up, fine, if someone doesn’t, also fine. Pencil is desperate here because everyone no longer believes she’s a good leader, and that was her breaking point. All of Freesmart has left her + nobody else believing her anymore meant that the world was over in her eyes. For Pencil, not being seen as a good leader is equal to hate, which means that she sees that everyone no longer trusts her and hates her now. The only way to prove that she’s a good leader and for her to finally prove to others that she’s not worthy of hate is to complete immunity. If she doesn’t, her life, everything, is over. + her “ego” isn’t rlly hurt, because her point was already proven with Book and Ice cube leaving her. If she doesn’t prove to others she’s a worthy leader, she has every right to assume that nobody will like her anymore. Also she didn’t push Match away. In fact, she brought Match closer, trying to be as kind as possible so Match wouldn’t hate her. In fact, she doesn’t even like Match that much, but still spends time with her because she knows how much Match would feel hurt and probably hate her. This was proving by them hanging out for 7 years in the EXIT. Can you imagine hanging out with someone who’s overly needy for 7 years? I fully stand with the point that she isn’t being selfish, she’s being desperate. Nobody likes her anymore, and nobody sees her as a good leader anymore. For her, it’s all over. The world is already over in her eyes. The past is past, but the past also becomes the future. You can see that no matter what Pencil does in TPOT 14, nobody wants to hang out with her, she was desperate, the last straw was Book and Ice cube still not wanting to hang out with her despite Pencil trying her best. After that, Pencil comes to the conclusion that if she isn’t a good leader, everyone will hate her, and everyone hating her means the world would be over. Also the points you brought abt Liy is clearly bias. Liy is with a chill team meanwhile Pencil is with.. the bossy boy who disregards ppls feelings. As the number one Pencil defender, I deem your point.. ILLEGITIMATE!! Haha, just kidding.
@ except Match was the one who started to bully Spongy, making the game Spongy-Cake. Instead of endorsing this, Pencil was more concerned with the tests catching on fire. Then Pencil joined in so that Match wouldn’t ask more questions leading to a higher chance of match wanting to defy Pencil, and Yk Pencil likes to stay in control
Her decision to fix her own past and reobtain everything she had is morally correct in her perspective, to her she can't fix anyone else if she can't fix herself
I feel like her crashout was reasonable, She was 1st place in TFI, Which is canon now in BFDI. Then she got unfairly eliminated in BFDI and BFDIA. She got out first in BFB, And Rebuted (Rejoin and debutted) Into TPOT. She has no one to look to, All her friends are gone, and Nobody wants to be her friend. And she knows if she is in the background in the episodes, people will forget her and she will be eliminated, not be able to make it up to book and ice cube. I surely hope she does get an arc where she can let go of the past, and try to make new friends. Even if she almost destroyed the world. If she doesn't, She fits the role so well for a villain character in the season.
@glucosity remember bfdi? She got out due to the scoreboard, pencil I found out was rigged in bfdia cause needle was supposed to be out, but it’s another UA-cam dislike extension problem
“liy seems to be adapting well” liy had absolutely no close friends around her before she was eliminated, pencil was surrounded by all of the people closest to her before she got out and was seperated from them for years and now all of them are gone. this video is so tone deaf pencil wasn’t in the right or the wrong for this gut it feels cruel to just single her out when we literally see what it’s done to her
1. Pencil is only referring to Golf Ball with being stuck in a classroom, Liy is not relevant in this confrontation between these two. 2. Pencil wants to be in a positive view by people, this is how Pencil is 3. She is saying how she hasn’t seen Bubble and Ruby since her elimination and Match was blown away in the wind 4.Uses book and icy not talking to here to support her struggle and why she dosent want to lose again 5 and 6. Both support how she dosent want to suffer that same fate of being stuck in a similar environment that if the exit Not everyone is perfect and this scene is pencil venting pretty much, sure it may be selfish but I feel Pencil does have a reason to do the things she has done. Stop the hate (No hate to the creator of this video by the way)
I still like her and this selfish personality just adds some nice flavor at times, and, as you pointed out in the top comment, Liy did get along better than Pencil because of her friends there, but Pencil is stuck with people she doesn’t like, doesn’t know, or doesn’t really care for much. I do understand why you wouldn’t find her good from her actions, but I think they add some flavor to the interactions and competition. Selfish personalities can be interesting in shows sometimes.
Still basically 6 years, and Bracelety was there too, they were both they for essentially the same time. And neither of them were feral towards anyone. Under any circumstance.
@@RainbowRain-x4yyeah well, people handle trauma differently. just because they aren’t acting the same way as pencil doesn’t mean they aren’t traumatised
As pencil being my favorite character, I've got to defend her. She was trapped in the exit for almost 7 years. She wasn't the only one, but she was the first one, for a time, she didn't know what would happen next, if she would see someone else ever, or if she would be trapped forever. And now that she came back, no one will tack to her, she is alone. All of this suffering doesn't justify their actions, but it is not about justifying, it is about understanding. How can you expect to someone, who was trapped for 7 years in a small room, that has no one to talk to, and doesn't know what will happen with her if she gets eliminated, to act in a reasonable way. It's impossible. She made something bad not for being bad, but for being sad and alone. She doesn't need a new personality, she just needs friends. Talking about fault, I still think Pillow is more responsible for all the past anomalies. Edit: I've realised I forgot to talk about her playing the victim role, but it kinda explains with what I said before, someone who knows made a mistake, will try to hide it, or to blame another. Again, it is not correct, but she does it to protect herself. All pencil needs to be "better" is just someone to talk. Two could be an interesting option. Now that gaty's gone, Two's gonna be lonely, and having a new character to talk to would be the best for both they and pencil. Wrote a lot more than what I wanted. It's 7 am in my country, I can't sleep, and this is just an object show.
i understand it is in her character to make such decisions, but again, it does not justify them. she was written well in this scene, but what she did was wrong and you cannot defend her for it. some people like her for this, but i PERSONALLY don’t. you can like her if you want, i’m just giving my honest opinion. and as i’ve said before, i hope she stays for a while to get redemption
I say I wanna explain how this is all 100% pencil's fault 1. she doesn't care about the fact that the BFDI world is about to end and only mins after this scene it actually happened BECAUSE OF HER 2. she doesn't realize that she WAS a good leader and just mad that she did NOT get credit, I mean hey be glad the viewers let you in also don't forget that she made her OWN TEAM in the EXIT and GOT INTO TPOT 3. she still has been BUGGING Book and Ice Cube, so that makes sense. MAYBE PENCIL SHOULD'NT HAVE BEEN RUDE TO THEM, and you're still wondering why that hasn't happened is since it probably will happen in IDFB since they were friends in IDFB. Also PENCIL IS ON A TEAM THAT SHE COULD'VE MADE NEW FRIENDS BUT AFTER TPOT 15, SHE CANT DO NOTHING! 4. the quote "I CANT GO BACK THERE" will happen and also maybe she wouldn't have happened IF SHE WASNT RUDE AT ALL IN BFB 1 AND REMEMBER HER IDEA SUCKED. CloudYAY will be cooked after tpot 15 with pencil
yes, pencil’s actions aren’t justified, but she’s still really well written as a bad person. her reactions to her trauma are insanely realistic, even if it was borderline insane. i like her as a character, but not as a person. i think she very accurately represents a bad person. she doesn’t try and hurt others purposefully, but hurts them because of her own selfishness without realising. (not defending her btw!!)
I’d love a Pencil redemption arc, however I doubt being viewed in a negative light for six entire years would change, not to mention her BFDIA vote stats is a major yikes.
@glucosity I actually really understood for her in TPOT 15, all her friends left her when she tried to make it up to them. I think she has gone a little mad but we should keep her in for a little longer to see what she does
Pencil was a pretty sassy character in bfdi, pretty arrogant in bfdia, uncaring in idfb, and is cruel + all of this combined in bfb. 6 years in the exit humbled her, but broke her at the same time. Now she’s just a traumatized mean girl.
Pencil is one competitive contestant, pretty much.. she doesn’t care if anything happens to something like if the world dies or anything, she just wants to get her team to win. As i agree, that she did kinda push Match away, Match has been way longer in elimination places than Pencil herself, though in her shoes, 6 years with a number that would probably kill you if not complying to do algebra is mental destruction. Pencil had a point about everyone pushing her away, pretty much GB has TB while Pencil up to this point has no one to be with her, if Match would of somehow watched this, she would of just had a mental breakdown seeing her bestie this insane and question if she is a real friend. And the fact that Pencil is for her comfort. Both sides had their rights, however Pencil had few flaws with it imo. Yet i like her, and hope she actually gets either comfort or maybe something that would maybe satisfy the viewers to not make her that insane.
In my opinion, this makes no sense. She isn’t gonna help save reality just because she was trapped in the EXIT? That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, how are those two related, besides her pride getting hurt? Pencil used to be one of my favorite characters until this scene. Before toddlers come crashing into my replies section, yes, I know what character development is, no, this is not a good way to set it up. Pencil used to be one of my favorites, but she got so much worse from this scene. The worst part in my opinion is that NOW SHE HAS GLAZERS/DEFENDERS.
Her mental breakdown is understandable, but she still used Winner as a scapegoat. Which is why I hate her. And also, since its vote to save, Pencil is *going* to last a while.
To be fair, in this situation. She’s just a murderer. At least she didn’t outright try destroying time for her own selfish needs. She didn’t go ahead and try to rig the votes to get herself in BFDI or anything,
Imagine being in pencil’s life. Even if she is being selfish.. Liy probably loved adventures and was trying to investigate the door. So she had a fun time. But pencil on the other hand… She wanted to see her friends again and wanted to get her OLD FRIENDS back. Imagine being in a room/classroom for 6 YEARS. What would you guys do? (Yeah this was me yapping. But I wanted to talk about pencil,)
@glucositythe basic response to being left in a place you don’t want to be for more than 6 months is definitely to go a little insane or for a lack of a better word, feral.
I do respect your opinion, but i feel like it's reasonable for her to be mad. I don't know why, but i feel like she deserves better. Her friends doesn't look like they appreciate her anymore, plus rotting in a classroom for 6 years must be boring. But yeah, cool opinion lol Tbh if i was her, i feel like there's no other choice but to be mad. It's hard to keep your anger after experiencing these things. And i feel like it's pretty realistic :D Well, it's like psychology. Though that's just my opinion God bless
Two might aswell disqualify her for her reckless actions almost causing the universe to end. While yes, the writiers are without a doubt _NOT_ doing this, it would still be justified.
I respect your opinion and can understand why you see it this way but I liked this she lost everyone she cared about and book and ice cube want nothing to do with her anymore I hate math and I’d especially hate doing for 6 years endlessly in the exit she spent years away from her alliance and when she realized she could change her past and fix everything she tried in the moment she didn’t realize the affects this would have what she did was wrong but I just think it makes her more interesting and fun to watch
wow.. i'm back on one of your videos. woohoo? Anyways let's get to it. Pencil in general is one of the most overhated or just hated characters of BFDI in general. She's a bossy, funny (imo),competitive, etc etc. Liy and pencil are two separate characters with two separate pasts and two separate personalities. it is not fair to compare the two. Pencil has always been that. ( excluding bfb pencil gosh i hated how she was written that episode. ) I won't even use the " oH sHeS bEeN sTuCk In A cLaSsRoOm FoR sIx YeArS!! " because that's the main thing people use to excuse her behavior even if it's true. Their whole UNIVERSE is falling apart. Many deal with horrifying experiences differently. Some may feel rage, sadness, fear, etc. Pencil doesn't care if the universe falls apar. I feel as if she thinks she doesn't have a purpose if it isn't to lead, or be with her friends. As if there's no point living for her. She's afraid of what will happen when she's UFE. Because she thinks she'll just be in another clsssroom locked up for years and years. She doesn't want to face her past. She wants to change the past, to prevent her ever getting into that classroom. to ever have to go through that. to make it so everything is okay with her friends. This scene will be the start/apart of her redemptio (most likely.) . Redemption arcs irl take a while. probably the same for pencil if they write it right. We usually never see pencil experience or vocalize emotions like this. One of the most vulnerable times we've ever seen her. She's scared and upset just like all of them. Her character is honestly quite complex, it's hard for me to word it the way i want it to be. so uhh apologies if it sounds really goofy lol..
your comment is constructed well and i do agree on some parts! i am still hoping the best for her, but if the writers don’t start her redemption arc soon, it might be too late
@glucosity I can see that, however the writers have been writing cloudyay safe from elim so they definitely know what they're doing, as long as they write it well.
Yalll are saying how liy stayed in the exit for the exact same time bare in mind that pencil had competed for way longer than ANY of the other exitors (excluding match) she was stuck opening doors with both David and Dora for 4 years.Straight.And she did lead the team.in one of the tpot episodes(idk which one)everyone was arguing and yelling and pencil broke them up.she sent match away so match could be with other people and to be more independent and to not rely on her too much. Don’t get me wrong I am NOT defending the actions of bfb freesmart.and to be fair that isn’t the fault of pencil.its bc of the writing of bfb back then.the writer didn’t like freesmart so they made them insufferable,and lead people like you to believe that pencil was a bad ball through and through.Sure pencil did things that are bad.but she didn’t do them for the sake of doing them.she did them for a reason,even if it doesn’t justify it. Pencil knows what she done in the past,she wants to go back in time to revert everything,she she can apologise and fix the things she’s done Pencil isn’t perfect,which is why jnj are going to keep her safe,so people like you don’t eliminate her so quick.And tbh it’s acc a good thing that she has this flaw,it makes her more realistic,instead of just hating on everything and being bossy.
I disagree with this. Pencil has lost everything, her friends and everyone no trust her, Match is gone stacked on top of being stuck in a classroom for 6 - 7 years. The moment she had nothing to lose, she went full nihillist mode. To her, nothing else matters anymore other than changing the past, because that would create a timeline where she never got stuck in a classroom, living happily and chill with Freesmart and Match even if it ends up in the universe collapsing If Pencil gone back to the past it WILL save her from her trauma, and give her a happy life at the cost of (potentially) the existence of BFB or TPOT and it's contestants so it REALLY is the choice between her happiness and other's Pencil hater's just trying their best to make Pencil look bad,
first of all, pencil is not my favourite character (obviously), and i care for the many other characters in tpot more than her. so OF COURSE i would dislike her for acting selfish. it’s in her character, it was written well, but doesn’t justify her actions. this is just my opinion, i respect your opinion too, but don’t say i’m just another pencil hater that finds ANYTHING to hate on her.
just wanna say, it doesn’t matter that she spent 6-7 years in a classroom doing endless math, her actions are not justifiable and are downright selfish, THOUGH they do make sense for her character. doesn’t make her any better.
and if anyone one is wondering, Liy may have got along with her team fast because she was in death pact, but the rest of the exitors were all sane at the very least. pencil has gone feral.
i do still find her decent, and i do hope she stays long enough for her to get redemption
take my opinion as a pinch of salt, i understand that you disagree but please don’t be rude about it.
bracelety, dora, david, 8 ball and roboty are just gimmick characters theyre irrelevant and therefore repetitive so no one gaf abt their sanity
different characters means different personalities and different personalities means they deal with stuff differently so it doesn't make sense to compare pencil and liy
Yeah no this is a rlly bad take, sorry for my rude behavior but it’s uhh clear you don’t understand Pencil as much as you think you do. If u want more info go check the comment I made
pencil was in there for the longest… of course she went feral just like flower did…………
She's been eliminated 3 times.
Honestly Pencil needs an arc not even a redemption arc, but one in general. Because Book and Ice Cube no longet like her, she's basically alone. Cloudyay was safe by 1 contestant anyway.
ngl, her reaction is honestly pretty realistic, when it feels like your world is falling apart, you ignore other people in the situation and pretend that all your efforts were for nothing, what she did was bad, but you still feel bad for her.
i kinda love her for this because you can't just expect every single character to be perfect, i like the flaws that pencil have. pencil def went up my tier list
We've been watching way to much Inanimate insanity
@@kylebrookshire7and thats a good thing lol
This is not flaws, this is bad writing
@Memberinq no it literally isnt lol, they're not making pencil perfect on purpose which what makes her an interesting character.
it is not bad writing at all.
pencil is a perfect example of a very flawed (but not horrible) person. She’s not malicious, she was a bad person before everything and being trapped for 6 years broke her, basically reducing the chances of her redemption to a stub, since now she feels justified in her behavior. She’s not horrible, she cares about other people, she’s a bad person, just not past redemption.
I'm not completely sure I agree with all of that.
In ur statement pencil basically got the karma she deserves book and icy not talking to her means karmas a bitch she wishes to have her old life and just freesmart again but.. yea she just got the karma she deserves and needs to move on and make new friends
Remember, pencil was stuck with an ice cube stan and a stick figure that can usually only say two words.
The stick figure can say “NO!” Too
And “aw dreariously”
@ that’s why I said usaully
To be fair, she decided the groups. She chose that.
Stick Figure the reggae band? Well he makes songs with more than two words. In fact, it would be great being with an amazing music artist for 6-7 years. Obviously, unless you were talking about someone like David, but why ever would that happen!
@CaesarSalad_GD i said usaully
Pencil lashing out at golf ball was probably one of her best scenes
Tbf, I understand her. She has been stuck trying to escape a classroom for SIX YEARS (also she has been there the longest), and as soon as she comes out, Match is taken away from her. Book and Icy refuse to even talk to her and she doesn’t know why. It is clear her mental state has been affected badly by all the events that occurred, and I get why she would try to go and fix her past. That obviously does NOT justify almost breaking the universe and killing everyone but it is understandable why she would be angry. I hope she isn’t voted out cuz I wanna see her continue her arc.
BFDI fans when it comes to understand how storylines and character development work (they don't)
i mean idk theyve been doing storylines pretty well
@@w-yk3 OH WAIT I MEANT TO SAY BFDI FANS SORRY
I DEFEND PENCIL 100% 😭
AND BFDI HAS A LOT OF GOOD STORYLINES
Yeah right? Everyone has to be like they were everytime, they have no right to change or react different
Fr. I know this isnt the nicest thing to say ,but I miss when the fanbase had less todlers
literallyyy, why can’t people understand that a character reaching a dramatic low tends to be preparation to build them up 😭 pencil went way up in my tier list this episode
This is how character development is made bro. Thats why Cloudyay wasn't put up for elimination. Her actions wont ever be justified but for Pencil, her world is already crumbled apart. She pushed away her friends, and no one likes her anymore. Pencil is an actual complex character in which you have to find meanings in her actions. Pencil has been my fav since day 1 and I say that this scene was very well done.
ON TOP 💪🔥🔥
(R you Mint Cocoa Shipper like me in Cookie Run fandom :3
@@ZobidBFDI I normally dont ship but this is the one exception
the scene was incredibly well done and realistic, i just don’t appreciate pencil for it unlike others who do
@glucosity When character development is made, the community is bound to split into those who hate and tho who love the character. Ig u n me just represent both those persectives, so fair opinion. Also I maybe shouldnt have worded my first comment the way I did, its just that when it comes to defending Pencil I sometimes get carried away. So im sorry if my comment was rude.
@glucosity Also idk why but I feel the need to say that people dont always deeply hate or like a character. People sometimes slightly dislike or like a character but however deep the feeling is, it always either falls under the category of like or dislike.
(Ik the long explanation wasnt needed but I felt the need to say it since I had stated that people either hate or love a character when ik that the type of like or dislike can range from light to deep)
Alr ima stop yapping now
she's probably under the assumption that if she gets eliminated, she's just gonna go through eternal algebra all over again.
doesn't seem like she cares anymore even if it means that everyone else will get erased from existence lol
0:15 liy has been in there a shorter time as well as haveing people like pen except her
By a few days?
That time difference does not matter a single bit
Liy is very comparable to pencil,no matter what you say
@TacokomiOSC liy was with stapy one of her best friends pencil was stuck with David and bracelety also like I said the people that liy new (bottle and pen) excepted her and talked to her when book and ice cube don't want anything to do with her she is scared of change while liy loves new adventures
@TrueMicrobe liy was rivals with stapy,and pencil had match
For a small duration tho,but in that duration pencil would've befriended David and bracelety,their teamwork in tpot 11 shows that
@TacokomiOSC I'm talking about when they had separated to find a way out of four and liy and stapy formed a friendship while match was a later boot none of her tpot friends like her while liy had people also the thrill of the adventure to escape four must of kept her sane
I have a feeling Pencil was like that in that scene because she's still mad Book and Ice Cube are trying to avoid her, but she was hiding it and instead talked about the E.X.I.T for herself to sound more concerning. Pencil WAS a good leader (she even acted determined, seemed to care for Bracelety and David, etc.), there's Liy who is all fine and she probably even forgot about the E.X.I.T at this point, and Pencil just sucks at trying to make a point because she just complained about Roboty for the 3rd time. Despite all of this, personally I liked Pencil in TPOT 15 way more than in TPOT 14.
adding liy who is perfectly fine is not a good argument. They are two separate different characters??? That's like comparing two kindergarteners or smth.
You know you messed up BIG time when yellowface gets angry at you. (The only time he was angry was when he meets purpleface)
No she’s not rogue. She’s broken.
Pencil refuses to forget about the past because it affected her so much. She CAN’T let go. Because her actions has caused her to lose her reputation, her friends, her freedom. Even after being free from a cage for six years, she will never be free if doesn’t cope with the past and start a new life.
At least yellow face stopped when Winner told him not to go to Dream Island, Pencil resisted.
I love yfs reaction here 1:13
“Really uncool today guys”
Yea really- Uh really uncool- Uh Winner!
_pushes winner to the side_
You go over there, and just- wait till we’re really to speak to you again
*Angry Yellowface mp3*
*Pencil looks at her angry team*
I'm not afraid to say that pencil IS WORSE than flower
oh uh..
Was that black text at the bottom of the video in 0:15 your thinking? I’m asking because I golfball didn’t saw half of what was shown. (Also what does “delulu” mean?)
“Pencil Redemption Arc”
TPOT Voters: Yeah right like that’s really gonna happen.
*Proceeds to safe Yellow Face*
yeahhh that’s not gonna happen
Hope donut gets out when cloudyay is ufe
@@Cheetahhurricane tf did Donut do 😭🙏
I would vote for Winner to be safe.
Would save everyone else over pencil cuz karmas a bitch
If Pencil was so affected by that, imagine other characters who didn't even rejoin in Tpot. like Dora, Stampy and Bracelety, I don't think they would be mentally well.
At least they are out of the classroom
well, we saw 8-ball get a good ending, where he ended up on the island with firey, who actually was willing to talk
I really hope we got to see every exitor in a different place
I can get why anyone would hate pencil, but her being the way she is, i’d say it’s good writing. Pencil has a long way to go considering that her team has been immune every time since she’s joined, so the writers are trying to keep her in.
hopefully she survives long enough to receive redemption
If Pencil didn't want to face any consequences, then maybe she should have been more respectful in BFB 1. Golfball isn't even focused on the challenge and more on the events that are happening and she gets scolded for it. It's not Golfball's fault Pencil was eliminated back then. Pencil should have seen that coming.
I- Satomi WROTE pencil to rig her out of the game :/
@ipupi8784 but whyyyy 😭
I personally adore what they’re doing with her. It makes a lot of sense when looking deeper into her character.
Ikr!!! Me too.
Idk if is redemtion, but an end to this arc may come good, if they are keeping CloudYay safe, they might add more characters arc, like with pillow or yellow face
I completely agree with this video.
Atleast she was written better than in tpot 14 WAY BETTER
This is the first time yellow face had doubled lined angry eyebrows, y'know yellow face is pissed if he's using DOUBLED lined angry eyebrows.
“BECAUSE I CANT GO BACK THERE!”
Pencil over here acting like the EXIT is still the eliminated contestant area
Ima just lock u up for 6 years and see if u have the same impression
Locked up for 6 years with bracelety david and 4 while also endlessly looking through doors for an exit
@@linhank5946 ok.
@@1971taks she seemed pretty content with Bracelety and David, and plus she had the option to travel with match.
@@linhank5946we already get locked in a classroom 6+ years💀😭🙏
1:16 yellow face : WHY TF DID U MOVE WINNER AWAY FROM US>:(
Yellow fríes is really close friend of winner
@@rhythmheavenDamn I didn’t know Fries turned yellow!
Idc if pencil changes or not, as long as Yellow Face stays in cloudyay will remain peak
I guess I won't save donut
This interaction between pencil and golf ball. This could be an arc between them, they’re both very flawed people that have been rivals for the longest time. Pencil cares too much about her own feelings to consider others, and golf ball cares too much about her own goals to consider others. Both of them prioritize what they want over what others want, and here, golf ball seems genuinely concerned by pencil. They could both have an arc together to get the growth they both need, and that would be amazing, pencil learns to consider other’s wants, and golf ball learns to consider other’s feelings.
YEAHH NO. Sorry if this sounds rude but I disagree completely with all your points.
Your first point in which Pencil says that others can clean that up, she’s referring that she doesn’t care what happens anymore, if someone cleans it up, fine, if someone doesn’t, also fine.
Pencil is desperate here because everyone no longer believes she’s a good leader, and that was her breaking point. All of Freesmart has left her + nobody else believing her anymore meant that the world was over in her eyes. For Pencil, not being seen as a good leader is equal to hate, which means that she sees that everyone no longer trusts her and hates her now. The only way to prove that she’s a good leader and for her to finally prove to others that she’s not worthy of hate is to complete immunity. If she doesn’t, her life, everything, is over.
+ her “ego” isn’t rlly hurt, because her point was already proven with Book and Ice cube leaving her. If she doesn’t prove to others she’s a worthy leader, she has every right to assume that nobody will like her anymore.
Also she didn’t push Match away. In fact, she brought Match closer, trying to be as kind as possible so Match wouldn’t hate her. In fact, she doesn’t even like Match that much, but still spends time with her because she knows how much Match would feel hurt and probably hate her. This was proving by them hanging out for 7 years in the EXIT. Can you imagine hanging out with someone who’s overly needy for 7 years?
I fully stand with the point that she isn’t being selfish, she’s being desperate. Nobody likes her anymore, and nobody sees her as a good leader anymore. For her, it’s all over. The world is already over in her eyes.
The past is past, but the past also becomes the future. You can see that no matter what Pencil does in TPOT 14, nobody wants to hang out with her, she was desperate, the last straw was Book and Ice cube still not wanting to hang out with her despite Pencil trying her best.
After that, Pencil comes to the conclusion that if she isn’t a good leader, everyone will hate her, and everyone hating her means the world would be over.
Also the points you brought abt Liy is clearly bias. Liy is with a chill team meanwhile Pencil is with.. the bossy boy who disregards ppls feelings.
As the number one Pencil defender, I deem your point.. ILLEGITIMATE!! Haha, just kidding.
Pencil bullied spongy for no reason even when he was nice
Haha can't defend that take
@ except Match was the one who started to bully Spongy, making the game Spongy-Cake. Instead of endorsing this, Pencil was more concerned with the tests catching on fire. Then Pencil joined in so that Match wouldn’t ask more questions leading to a higher chance of match wanting to defy Pencil, and Yk Pencil likes to stay in control
yall running a scientific study over a silly web show
you literally ATE and said everything that was needed to be said lol
@rb.v wow.
I'm still voting pencil.
Real
Get out
Yeah we need a new arc
So i vote her so we can further understand.
Says the bro with the pencil profile picture
1:08 is it just me or did I see some red from Golfball-
She does,
She only care about herself
Remember, as much as pencil could have "ended tpot" she developed the episode furthermore in a sense.
Her decision to fix her own past and reobtain everything she had is morally correct in her perspective, to her she can't fix anyone else if she can't fix herself
0:23 umm she flew away in a fucking storm
I think she meant in the exit when making groups
@Pillarmaker sure but it doesn't change the fact she flew away in a fucking storm
@@Pillarmakeralso ruby and bubble went to bfb.
She’s still more likeable than Pillow at least lol.
But yeah I can see where you’re coming from and this is showing me that Pencil could have an arc:)
Nah, pillow is and still being the goat
@@rhythmheaven so a crazy killer is being the goat? Damn bro that's mad funny besides how can you not see that Pillow is ruined?
@EmojiMarbles she's just being carried by the vote to be safe thing
@@hiimapie yeah because brain dead people are choosing her..........
@EmojiMarbles people like her nonchalant attitude
I feel like her crashout was reasonable,
She was 1st place in TFI, Which is canon now in BFDI.
Then she got unfairly eliminated in BFDI and BFDIA.
She got out first in BFB, And Rebuted (Rejoin and debutted) Into TPOT.
She has no one to look to, All her friends are gone, and Nobody wants to be her friend.
And she knows if she is in the background in the episodes, people will forget her and she will be eliminated, not be able to make it up to book and ice cube.
I surely hope she does get an arc where she can let go of the past, and try to make new friends. Even if she almost destroyed the world.
If she doesn't, She fits the role so well for a villain character in the season.
She deserved to be eliminated in bfdi fm
she wasn’t unfairly eliminated in both bfdi and bfdia
@glucosity remember bfdi? She got out due to the scoreboard, pencil I found out was rigged in bfdia cause needle was supposed to be out, but it’s another UA-cam dislike extension problem
omg i completely forgot about the scoreboard,
you’re right
Honestly that's probably where this is going this is HOPEFULLY a set up to a redemption arc
They are planning something with her but if she gets herself eliminated early she might be the most hated contestant ever
I feel bad for Pencil, like she just wants friends, also she didnt push Match away, she said theyll meet up later on.
bfdia 14 and idfb 1 says otherwise
@glucosityit’s been 10 years since BFDIA and 8 since IDFB in canon, her opinions on match have most likely changed in that MASSIVE gap.
you could say that pencil went crazy after being stuck with 2 people she dosen't really like for 5 years + the classroom for 1 year
This dude is the Karen of BFDI😭
As a Pencil fan, yeah, that's true
“liy seems to be adapting well”
liy had absolutely no close friends around her before she was eliminated, pencil was surrounded by all of the people closest to her before she got out and was seperated from them for years and now all of them are gone. this video is so tone deaf pencil wasn’t in the right or the wrong for this gut it feels cruel to just single her out when we literally see what it’s done to her
1. Pencil is only referring to Golf Ball with being stuck in a classroom, Liy is not relevant in this confrontation between these two.
2. Pencil wants to be in a positive view by people, this is how Pencil is
3. She is saying how she hasn’t seen Bubble and Ruby since her elimination and Match was blown away in the wind
4.Uses book and icy not talking to here to support her struggle and why she dosent want to lose again
5 and 6. Both support how she dosent want to suffer that same fate of being stuck in a similar environment that if the exit
Not everyone is perfect and this scene is pencil venting pretty much, sure it may be selfish but I feel Pencil does have a reason to do the things she has done. Stop the hate (No hate to the creator of this video by the way)
This episode genuinely made me like golfball which I never expected
Ngl when pencil say that it hits hard like if she doesn't make the mistakes and she was nice then she would not get out in bfb
Tbh I think this makes her more interesting
pencil ends 😭😭🙏 oh pencil you will forever be loved
They’re very clearly going to do something with her, otherwise cloudyay would’ve probably lost
I still like her and this selfish personality just adds some nice flavor at times, and, as you pointed out in the top comment, Liy did get along better than Pencil because of her friends there, but Pencil is stuck with people she doesn’t like, doesn’t know, or doesn’t really care for much. I do understand why you wouldn’t find her good from her actions, but I think they add some flavor to the interactions and competition. Selfish personalities can be interesting in shows sometimes.
I mean nonstop algebra for 6 years straight is enough to drive anyone insane.
0:15 No kidding Liy was in the classroom for a shorter time
Still basically 6 years, and Bracelety was there too, they were both they for essentially the same time. And neither of them were feral towards anyone. Under any circumstance.
@@RainbowRain-x4yyeah well, people handle trauma differently. just because they aren’t acting the same way as pencil doesn’t mean they aren’t traumatised
@ivywt I never sent they weren’t traumatised. I said they weren’t FERAL.
@ why does that need to be pointed out tho? like i said, people handle trauma differently
So essentially you’re hating on pencil, showing extreme bias against her, and giving inaccurate information to us.
I still feel bad for her to he honest
As pencil being my favorite character, I've got to defend her.
She was trapped in the exit for almost 7 years. She wasn't the only one, but she was the first one, for a time, she didn't know what would happen next, if she would see someone else ever, or if she would be trapped forever.
And now that she came back, no one will tack to her, she is alone.
All of this suffering doesn't justify their actions, but it is not about justifying, it is about understanding.
How can you expect to someone, who was trapped for 7 years in a small room, that has no one to talk to, and doesn't know what will happen with her if she gets eliminated, to act in a reasonable way. It's impossible. She made something bad not for being bad, but for being sad and alone.
She doesn't need a new personality, she just needs friends.
Talking about fault, I still think Pillow is more responsible for all the past anomalies.
Edit: I've realised I forgot to talk about her playing the victim role, but it kinda explains with what I said before, someone who knows made a mistake, will try to hide it, or to blame another.
Again, it is not correct, but she does it to protect herself.
All pencil needs to be "better" is just someone to talk.
Two could be an interesting option. Now that gaty's gone, Two's gonna be lonely, and having a new character to talk to would be the best for both they and pencil.
Wrote a lot more than what I wanted. It's 7 am in my country, I can't sleep, and this is just an object show.
i understand it is in her character to make such decisions, but again, it does not justify them. she was written well in this scene, but what she did was wrong and you cannot defend her for it. some people like her for this, but i PERSONALLY don’t. you can like her if you want, i’m just giving my honest opinion. and as i’ve said before, i hope she stays for a while to get redemption
I say I wanna explain how this is all 100% pencil's fault
1. she doesn't care about the fact that the BFDI world is about to end and only mins after this scene it actually happened BECAUSE OF HER
2. she doesn't realize that she WAS a good leader and just mad that she did NOT get credit, I mean hey be glad the viewers let you in
also don't forget that she made her OWN TEAM in the EXIT and GOT INTO TPOT
3. she still has been BUGGING Book and Ice Cube, so that makes sense. MAYBE PENCIL SHOULD'NT HAVE BEEN RUDE TO THEM, and you're still wondering why that hasn't happened is since it probably will happen in IDFB since they were friends in IDFB. Also PENCIL IS ON A TEAM THAT SHE COULD'VE MADE NEW FRIENDS BUT AFTER TPOT 15, SHE CANT DO NOTHING!
4. the quote "I CANT GO BACK THERE" will happen and also maybe she wouldn't have happened IF SHE WASNT RUDE AT ALL IN BFB 1 AND REMEMBER HER IDEA SUCKED.
CloudYAY will be cooked after tpot 15 with pencil
yes, pencil’s actions aren’t justified, but she’s still really well written as a bad person. her reactions to her trauma are insanely realistic, even if it was borderline insane. i like her as a character, but not as a person. i think she very accurately represents a bad person. she doesn’t try and hurt others purposefully, but hurts them because of her own selfishness without realising. (not defending her btw!!)
I’d love a Pencil redemption arc, however I doubt being viewed in a negative light for six entire years would change, not to mention her BFDIA vote stats is a major yikes.
thankfully, vote to save may save her for an elimination or two
I respect your opinion, but I think this fits her well. I thought this was a great scene.
Pencil's actually winning TPOT bro
The winner part was so funny to me for som reason
I love her the more she stays in TPOT
after tpot 14 & 15, it’s either you love pencil much more or hate her much more 😭
@glucosity I actually really understood for her in TPOT 15, all her friends left her when she tried to make it up to them. I think she has gone a little mad but we should keep her in for a little longer to see what she does
I’m going to vote golf ball next time cloudyay is ufe
Pencil was a pretty sassy character in bfdi, pretty arrogant in bfdia, uncaring in idfb, and is cruel + all of this combined in bfb. 6 years in the exit humbled her, but broke her at the same time. Now she’s just a traumatized mean girl.
And that’s why she’s one my favorites
Pencil is one competitive contestant, pretty much.. she doesn’t care if anything happens to something like if the world dies or anything, she just wants to get her team to win.
As i agree, that she did kinda push Match away, Match has been way longer in elimination places than Pencil herself, though in her shoes, 6 years with a number that would probably kill you if not complying to do algebra is mental destruction.
Pencil had a point about everyone pushing her away, pretty much GB has TB while Pencil up to this point has no one to be with her, if Match would of somehow watched this, she would of just had a mental breakdown seeing her bestie this insane and question if she is a real friend. And the fact that Pencil is for her comfort.
Both sides had their rights, however Pencil had few flaws with it imo.
Yet i like her, and hope she actually gets either comfort or maybe something that would maybe satisfy the viewers to not make her that insane.
In my opinion, this makes no sense. She isn’t gonna help save reality just because she was trapped in the EXIT? That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, how are those two related, besides her pride getting hurt? Pencil used to be one of my favorite characters until this scene. Before toddlers come crashing into my replies section, yes, I know what character development is, no, this is not a good way to set it up. Pencil used to be one of my favorites, but she got so much worse from this scene.
The worst part in my opinion is that NOW SHE HAS GLAZERS/DEFENDERS.
I know that I said this on another vid but I think it would be really cool if she had a villain arc then a redemption arc!
she’s already on her villain arc 😭
Flawed and morally grey characters>>>>>>>>
Her mental breakdown is understandable, but she still used Winner as a scapegoat. Which is why I hate her. And also, since its vote to save, Pencil is *going* to last a while.
for the liy thing, they werent relevant in the conversation, mostly referring to golfball and the leader thing was probably referring to BFB 1?
she said “i tried to be a good leader, to be the one to get us out of there” implying she meant the exit
No, no. Pencil must be eliminated as soon as her team loses. Just this once.
Seeing as she didn’t give a shit about time itself. She may just be worse than BFDI flower.
1:15 I'm fine with that
No one talking about how cruel is pillow...
in tpot 15 she was kinda questionable, but really pillow is just heavily overshadowed by tpot 9, she’s a great character
To be fair, in this situation. She’s just a murderer. At least she didn’t outright try destroying time for her own selfish needs. She didn’t go ahead and try to rig the votes to get herself in BFDI or anything,
Imagine being in pencil’s life. Even if she is being selfish.. Liy probably loved adventures and was trying to investigate the door. So she had a fun time. But pencil on the other hand… She wanted to see her friends again and wanted to get her OLD FRIENDS back. Imagine being in a room/classroom for 6 YEARS. What would you guys do?
(Yeah this was me yapping. But I wanted to talk about pencil,)
i wouldn’t go feral, just like the rest of the exitors
@glucositythe basic response to being left in a place you don’t want to be for more than 6 months is definitely to go a little insane or for a lack of a better word, feral.
To be fair. She DID push match away.
I think pencil has a point being stuck in a classroom of SIX YEARS! Imagine that happening to you. I think four is kinda trash for this
This is the redemption after being boring since bfdia
I do respect your opinion, but i feel like it's reasonable for her to be mad. I don't know why, but i feel like she deserves better. Her friends doesn't look like they appreciate her anymore, plus rotting in a classroom for 6 years must be boring. But yeah, cool opinion lol
Tbh if i was her, i feel like there's no other choice but to be mad. It's hard to keep your anger after experiencing these things. And i feel like it's pretty realistic :D
Well, it's like psychology.
Though that's just my opinion
God bless
I just realized that pencil and leafy has the same situation (kinda)
Yeah
Two might aswell disqualify her for her reckless actions almost causing the universe to end.
While yes, the writiers are without a doubt _NOT_ doing this, it would still be justified.
me when I I’m stuck inside someone else’s head for 6 whole years and the only thing I get called is selfish the moment I get out.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
probably because you are acting insane 😊
I think i would do something like that if i experienced that.
chat should i prepare to get doxxed by this guy for being a bad person.
lol what it’s just ur opinion, and i respect it
@glucosity thank you for not doxxing me ok
I hate how characters being “mean” makes them get eliminated no matter how reasonable it is on their point of view
I mean, now that TPOT is VOTE TO SAVE she might survive over winner or pillow or even donut
vote to save probably will lead to donut being eliminated next time they are ufe
hope that in tpot 16 she will get ignored in the entire episode (maybe not) but it still can happen
thats only going to end up in her going even more insane
I respect your opinion and can understand why you see it this way but I liked this she lost everyone she cared about and book and ice cube want nothing to do with her anymore I hate math and I’d especially hate doing for 6 years endlessly in the exit she spent years away from her alliance and when she realized she could change her past and fix everything she tried in the moment she didn’t realize the affects this would have what she did was wrong but I just think it makes her more interesting and fun to watch
sell fish 🐟
I hate pencil she just forgot about Match and pencil is just selfish
wow.. i'm back on one of your videos. woohoo? Anyways let's get to it.
Pencil in general is one of the most overhated or just hated characters of BFDI in general. She's a bossy, funny (imo),competitive, etc etc.
Liy and pencil are two separate characters with two separate pasts and two separate personalities. it is not fair to compare the two. Pencil has always been that. ( excluding bfb pencil gosh i hated how she was written that episode. ) I won't even use the " oH sHeS bEeN sTuCk In A cLaSsRoOm FoR sIx YeArS!! " because that's the main thing people use to excuse her behavior even if it's true. Their whole UNIVERSE is falling apart. Many deal with horrifying experiences differently. Some may feel rage, sadness, fear, etc. Pencil doesn't care if the universe falls apar. I feel as if she thinks she doesn't have a purpose if it isn't to lead, or be with her friends. As if there's no point living for her. She's afraid of what will happen when she's UFE. Because she thinks she'll just be in another clsssroom locked up for years and years. She doesn't want to face her past. She wants to change the past, to prevent her ever getting into that classroom. to ever have to go through that. to make it so everything is okay with her friends.
This scene will be the start/apart of her redemptio (most likely.) . Redemption arcs irl take a while. probably the same for pencil if they write it right. We usually never see pencil experience or vocalize emotions like this. One of the most vulnerable times we've ever seen her. She's scared and upset just like all of them. Her character is honestly quite complex, it's hard for me to word it the way i want it to be. so uhh apologies if it sounds really goofy lol..
your comment is constructed well and i do agree on some parts! i am still hoping the best for her, but if the writers don’t start her redemption arc soon, it might be too late
@glucosity I can see that, however the writers have been writing cloudyay safe from elim so they definitely know what they're doing, as long as they write it well.
Pencil haters trying to find ANY way to make pencil look like a bad person:
never hated pencil until tpot 14 & 15, which she just started going insane
She is
She got reasons, I dont really like Pencil, and TPOT 15 didn't changed my opinion-
i loved her for this especially i
TPOT 15 But it's Pencil being a jerk
How?genuinly tho
You would act the same if it feels like your whole world is falling apart
no...
*respect your opinion btw lol*
i rlly just said this guy hates pencil
Yalll are saying how liy stayed in the exit for the exact same time bare in mind that pencil had competed for way longer than ANY of the other exitors (excluding match) she was stuck opening doors with both David and Dora for 4 years.Straight.And she did lead the team.in one of the tpot episodes(idk which one)everyone was arguing and yelling and pencil broke them up.she sent match away so match could be with other people and to be more independent and to not rely on her too much.
Don’t get me wrong I am NOT defending the actions of bfb freesmart.and to be fair that isn’t the fault of pencil.its bc of the writing of bfb back then.the writer didn’t like freesmart so they made them insufferable,and lead people like you to believe that pencil was a bad ball through and through.Sure pencil did things that are bad.but she didn’t do them for the sake of doing them.she did them for a reason,even if it doesn’t justify it.
Pencil knows what she done in the past,she wants to go back in time to revert everything,she she can apologise and fix the things she’s done
Pencil isn’t perfect,which is why jnj are going to keep her safe,so people like you don’t eliminate her so quick.And tbh it’s acc a good thing that she has this flaw,it makes her more realistic,instead of just hating on everything and being bossy.
i’ve always like pencil up until tpot 13-15. i do hope she doesn’t get eliminated too soon yet, if she gets a redemption arc it would be great
@ she probably will,I just hope she doesn’t get out early
Yeah even though I love her she was very selfish and delulu this episode
I disagree with this.
Pencil has lost everything, her friends and everyone no trust her, Match is gone stacked on top of being stuck in a classroom for 6 - 7 years. The moment she had nothing to lose, she went full nihillist mode. To her, nothing else matters anymore other than changing the past, because that would create a timeline where she never got stuck in a classroom, living happily and chill with Freesmart and Match even if it ends up in the universe collapsing
If Pencil gone back to the past it WILL save her from her trauma, and give her a happy life at the cost of (potentially) the existence of BFB or TPOT and it's contestants so it REALLY is the choice between her happiness and other's
Pencil hater's just trying their best to make Pencil look bad,
first of all, pencil is not my favourite character (obviously), and i care for the many other characters in tpot more than her. so OF COURSE i would dislike her for acting selfish. it’s in her character, it was written well, but doesn’t justify her actions. this is just my opinion, i respect your opinion too, but don’t say i’m just another pencil hater that finds ANYTHING to hate on her.