1080p/30fps on the K1-II was quite good in a low light situation during a weeding. The result was far better than the video from my iPhone 12 ProMax. Well you can’t beat pixel size with software, imho.
Pentax K-3 Mark III Colour or Monochrome. They do shoot video, but they are very photo-centric cameras. They even have fixed LCDs, and I'm sure it's possible to glue the mode switch. They are also the most beautiful cameras on the market today, and I say that as a Panasonic user.
Only if image quality isn't as important as a nostalgic look. It is because of the outdated lens choice. This reflects the lens performance standards of DSLR APS-C lenses 20 years ago, as if frozen in time. Left behind by the lens image quality leaps which the mirrorless era brought to the market in the last 10 years.
@@unn4medfeel1ngit's ironic but it's true. The 5DII is now obsolete for modern video standards but remains a great photo camera. It can be had for 250-300 bucks, it's a bargain.
You mean more love than being voted "the second worst camera of 2018" by the DPRreview clowns, that include Chris and Jordan? These hopeless amateurs did not even cover the topic that should have been one of the most important ones of this video: "Which cameras uses sensors that do not compromise on IQ?" What is even the point of naming all the other cameras that make IQ compromises but are just bad at video? Who is after a camera that lacks a certain feature (here video) without getting something in return (here IQ)?
@@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x AFAIC, I calmy shared a fact. There is no anger here, just disappointment about the lack of quality of reviews. They are amateurs because the lack the technical foundation (have you ever heard Jordan's nonsense about "base ISO"? ). They are hopeless because they don't improve as evidenced by this video. Some commenter said this video was meant as a joke to expose all cameras that are bad at video. Do you think anyone should have been able to get that impression from the video? It wouldn't have been possible to get that impression if the video had more points about how supporting video can impact on photography IQ. Note that stacked sensors are used in only a few cameras, it is hardly worth mentioning this aspect (but surely justified). I wouldn't mind if they criticised Pentax hard if they used correct arguments, I'm not a brand fan boy with hurt feelings, the trouble is that they sometimes use the wrong reasons and regularly fail to highlight advantages. That's OK for amateurs, which is why I'm calling them that.
The K1 II is sensor tech of 13 years ago (same sensor as the Nikon D800), but unlike Nikon, the K1 II compromises image quality, via forced denoising in RAW files even at lower ISO (to obscure the fact how much they were behind competition regarding the old sensor). This forced denoising degrades the red channel especially. Also, because it destroys the natural statistical distribution of natural noise, this creates severe artifacts when using contemporary AI denoising software (which is trained only on non-compromised, natural noise). Hence, the K1 II is locked out from using AI denoising.
It's not that people don't want video, it's that people are tired of photo image quality being stalled for the last 10 years due to so much focus on video! We all warned that this would happen, and now it has. (sorry Jorden) but only UA-camrs use video and any one else using video professionally, use a dedicated system anyway.
Yes, all the comments saying "just ignore the video mode" didn't get the point. I think as AI takes away control, there'll be a demand for ergonomics and process in photography. Pentax could actually have a lucky shot here, their sensors wouldn't need pdaf so can use that to gain image quality.
100% The R6mk2 doesn't have stacked sensors for example and clearly the video on it is not top end or the thing wouldn't cost $2300 less than the R5mk2. Canon certainly has all the tools and tech to make a still camera with 50mp that would cost much less than the R5Mk2, but then the MK2 would probably not sell much anymore. That's why regular purchasers like me (since 2000) have stopped buying cameras for the past 5-10 years. They are actually adding to shrinking their market at a time it has dropped considerably and have to raise the cost of hybrids. There are actually no stats showing how much people actually use their cameras in video mode regularly.
And how do you propose they increase image quality? More megapixels and more dynamic range? Theyre already doing that in case you havent noticed. I am pretty glad that as a broke hybrid shooter, I can have cameras shooting 4k 60 10bit video for under $800
I just imported a Nikon Df from Japan to London for $900 USD which is quite affordable at the moment with the British pound being quite strong. I absolutely love it
Have to give some love to the Nikon Zf. I love that I can close and protect the screen. I rarely use it, and never use video. I also love how the Zf works with my manual focus Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO lens.
I would have bought Zf if they designed it right -- made the body smaller lighter with a normal grip, and also if they got rid of those ridiculous dials and articulating LCD, and used the same tilting LCD and buttons/dials as in Z6/7.
This is the whole reason I bought the X2D - I wanted a pure photography camera; an ‘artist’s tool.’ Six months in, I’m still very happy with my decision. My R6 MKII takes care of video, and a newly purchased Leica D-Lux 8 is the perfect EDC - proving this very weekend in the mountains to be a perfect walkabout companion.
Yes! This is exactly what photo-only photographers need. Not just the specific camera models you discussed, but the background logic behind the choices. Now when I feel the need for more pixels, I know where to go. Have, in fact, often been told where to go...
As a user ❤ the Pentax K1 mention! I really wish Pentax would just make a retro photo only DSLR because who shoot video with Pentax! I just want to use my small limited lenses on slimmer camera, something like the ZF or Fuji designs.
C'mon, whatever limited videofeature it has it basically acts as if it had no video in it, why just not to ignore it? Zf or Fuji are mirrorless, that's why they're slimmer, it doesn't relate to camera being video-equipped or free O_o BTW, Sony A900 is a true photography only DSLR, having no video-recording or even any live-view setting
@@kamilwiejaczka272 it takes up space in buttons and menus, costs hardware/firmware development and testing budget and no one in their right mind would want to make video with a Pentax, can't even use the ibis decently 😀
@@sofiadahlen1187 we’re you coming over from a Full Frame mirrorless Sony? For myself it’s been a pleasure using the K1 over the last four years, but I’ve only ever used Pentax cameras, so I am curious to know what you like about the camera!
@@kamilwiejaczka272 agree and from what I’ve heard it seems like taking away the video might up the cost of the camera. I still think however that Pentax could trim off some of the bulk and make things a bit more sturdy, like having the mount on the camera be actually attached to metal instead of plastic. I’ve seen some K1s with the camera 📸 mount ripped off from heavier lenses. I don’t think that would ever happen with any of the old metal film bodies. Don’t get me wrong I love Pentax that is why I’ve been using their DSLRs since 2009, but there is definitely room for improvement.
I love my Panasonic Lumix S1 because of 3 features: the back display with 2 axes. The dual ISO, beginning at ISO 4000 and the high resolution EVF. It's heavy and bulky. But it's performance in low light is sensational. And it is rugged. And used ones are a bargain. And I even shot video with it!
For me it's only one choice: Nikon Zf, full-frame, excelent build quality, manual dials, has arguably the best primes, and it looks great, it's a joy to use.
I have a Canon RP I got for 650euros and Im super happy with it! Doing some paid gigs for brands and restaurants and it is awesoome for someone who doesnt need highest end stuff ☺️
Never did get into video, so was/is never a purchasing factor. Hence I was a Pentaxian for over a decade and now m43 with Olympus/OM systems (since as you mentioned Olympus was focused on stills and Lumix Video). This is a great subject. The Olympus/OM systems and Panasonic Lumix concentration on different things (stills vs video) is the huge strength of m43 so I disagree about wanting Lumix to get better at photography.
100% on point. So what would your dream still photo features have . I would start with what I have - 5dsr and what my wishlist would be: -More megapixels. -increased dynamic range. -Articulated AND removable rear touch screen - therefore I'm not teathered to the camera. -NOT having to switch to bulb mode for any exposure length. Yes the R5 would give us some of my requirements, but I don't believe it would be worth it.
It is quite funny. Looking at all my camera systems, GFX100s, Panasonic S1R, X-H2 and a D850, I pick camera systems which are not great at video, even though I have a degree in filmmaking, and have worked as a tv cameraman and director (I wasn't very good). The only thing I really hate is the rear flippy screen, which just annoys the hell out of me. If I am going to shoot a video, I am going to use an external recorder, which gives a much bigger screen anyway and is much more practical. I do have to give Sony credit for their compromise, though I do still prefer the LCD design in S1R and GFX, which does allow for side tilt when shooting portrait from low.
I adore my Z5. It's not perfect - I wish it had a faster burst rate - but it creates such stunning files to work with. That's most of the reason I moved over from Canon DSLRs to Nikon mirrorless - the value for money that the Z5 offers (especially second hand) is excellent 👌🏻
I get what you're saying, but this would be a kind of ridiculous video for them to make it they were to consider literally every camera made in the past by every manufacturer that you could buy used
@@AdamJRichardson I know 😃, however, just one good camera for photography would have been nice. I would never spend this much Money on a camera for "photography only". The problem currently is that there are no cameras with all the video features ripped out for lower prices. Even If people do not use video they always pay for it.
I maybe used it once or twice. In almost 6 years. By I do use the metering mode dial, which Fuji unfortunately replaced by some video dial I’d never use. The metering mode dial is so handy.
Interesting video. I like having both abilities, but appreciate those who don't. However, I think it was either Jordan or Gerald Undone who lamented certain cameras that had capable hardware that was artificially limited by software, and that's what any "pure" photo camera would be. Anyway, good discussion to be had!
Nobody is willing to spend time tinkering with cameras anymore. But yes, most mirrorless cameras can have altered software but too bad all the tubers and commenters argue about "what's the best hardware". I made videos on tinkering with the Sony a9iii software but I doubt anyone cares because there isn't any education on software development
@@Moonstone-Redux All computers are the same. Sony has some coding stuff but there hasn't been any updates for years and 0 yt videos on it, so doing micro dev on my camera is super tiring. but it's possible if you spend the time to dev
I get that some people prefer to mostly shoot photos, in fact I'm mostly that guy when I travel. But those people who complain about a camera having video. What technology do they think is generating the image they use for composition on the screens or in the EVFs of mirrorless cameras? You know, that electronic picture that refreshes at, say 30-120fps? The fact is video is built-into modern cameras, as it's how they not only compose, but also meter the scene for exposure and white balance, not to mention recognise and track subjects in realtime. Remove it and you're left with a pretty basic camera. No problem with that either, but it's important to understand video is an inherent part of how modern cameras work for stills photography. If I really wanted to avoid the influence of video entirely, I'd go for an older DSLR that predates live view, something with a nice mature CCD like a Nikon D200.
Video complicates and compromises things far more than you seem willing to admit. Some people need a 1/1000 shutter synch way more than they need 8K video. Dump the video dead weight, and you can use that processing power to improve autofocus. You can reduce the size, weight, and cost of the camera. You don't need to worry about overheating. There are fewer things to break. You don't accidentally hit the video button when handling the camera. You can use cost-friendly storage cards. Guys who like to go fast but still need to go to Home Depot can buy a Dodge Durango Hellcat, but other guys who like to go really fast but don't GAF about Home Depot can buy a Corvette. There's room in the market for both.
That's not the same. The high video specs that make the cameras more expensive, bigger, heavier, sacrificing DR and high ISO capabilities -- that's what people complain about.
I think this is satirical. Most of those critical about hybrid cameras don't "hate" video. They want a camera specifically manufactured for stills and not have to take a backseat in quality, specs and features.
Thank you for this video. My biggest complaint is the articulating screen. I want the screen to just tilt. I had written Sony off, but you mentioned the a7R V. I will take a look at that one.
Canon 5D Mark IV is old but still amazing for just photography. I sold mine years ago but I look forward to getting one for cheap one day. It was simply amazing! Another great DSLR was the Nikon 850.
I'm selling mine to get a second MK3 instead and some cash to put towards a new ND filter or two. MK3 is my favorite camera so far but yup MK4 is amazing too.
I almost exclusively shoot photos with my X-T4. A camera that was designed as a hybrid camera with video as a strong focus. This was a moment where Fuji seemed to try to consolidate everything into one line before pushing the X-T back towards photo. I almost never use any of the video features but this camera still brings me nothing but joy. I’ve been around the world with it and taken tons of amazing images. It’s easy to get caught up in the spec sheet and it may seem frustrating that there’s such a focus on video. But none of it matters once you start using the camera
Yes, but again incompetently. They should have pointed out that the K-1 II, like the S1R, uses a sensor that does not compromise photography IQ just so that video is better supported.
@@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x Yes, there are still sensors like that on the market. My comments keep disappearing, so I'm not including any details for a change.
It would be good if you can cover cameras that an average person can afford. I have the Canon 6D Mark II and it’s great for a photographer like me and it’s affordable. DSLRs are still out there and they are more photosentrick I think. The most analog still camera I have, with no video capabilities is My Camp Snap cameras. That’s as analogue as you can get in a digital camera.
I have the original Z7. They have the same sensor so the image quality and Nikon colours are superb. Not good for anything fast action (get a D500) but otherwise superb image quality for a next to nothing price.
Mention the Nikon Z5? Outdated for video so right now you can get em new for like $900 .. until a mark ii hits no doubt with a sensor worse for still :P No i don't have one, I am a Lumx guy atm, but I think it appears to be an amazing deal.
The problem with Z5 is pretty bad AF -- that's why it so cheap, adding a bit more one can get Z6ii with a lot better everything.
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@@ElementaryWatson-123Z5 have actually really good autofocus system right now after all fw updates, it is faster, more responsive and very accurate. I would say it's now on the same level as Z6II.
My experience with Lumix bodies differs from the opinion presented here. It is ironic to criticize the Lumix DFD system for photographers, especially when it tracks very well and accurately for photography. 14bit files starting with the GH5s, image-stacking, adjustable focus throw, 1/320 sync, multi-position screen... are enough on top the sensor quality for most. The S1R is my primary photography camera, I cannot see any need to 'upgrade' for at least five more years. Secondary photography cameras are the 1DX and 1V together for events, and I like that I can use my 'old' Canon/Sigma glass on the Lumix seamlessly.
I get focusing on more recent mirrorless cameras, but couldn't an answer to high-quality photo without video problems be found in older DSLR? The Nikon D850 is an all-time classic. I carried a Canon 7D back when my kids were little and those pics still look amazing, and there are lots of older models of 5Ds around.
I have a Ricoh GR III & a Leica Q2 Monochrom, two cameras that you can forget about the video. I re-mapped the video button on my GR III, to back button focus because I never intend to use the video mode
When buying an M42 (Lens) to K-Mount adapter, remember to use the authentic Pentax version. I've had 3 (2 Urth brand, 1 unknown brand) get completely stuck in my DSLR's. Luckily I got them out with out breaking the camera, but I broke the adapters.
My favourite non video stills camera, which I still use, is the Nikon D700. I also own the Nikon Z7II, and as a stills shooter, it lovely, except for high speed focus.
The Nikon D3 doesn't have video at all & its like $3-400 freedom bucks. There's like 400 F mount lenses to choose from. If you're on an ultra budget build mission. That's the best bang for your buck
I'm so glad you specifically called out articulating screens in this video. I'm finally in a position where I will soon have the money to spend on a new camera, and I've watched release after release from every manufacturer with these awful screens. Although I thought the Z8 might be OK, because it kind of does both, but I need to go look at one. I'm really hoping a Z7 III has either something like the A7r V, or at least the Z8
The side flipped screen is such an awkward angle. Waist-level existed before SLR it's a natural workflow. Panasonic put it on the video centric GH7 but not on the G9ii. Mysterious choices...
I bought a brand new Sony A7R III (A) earlier this year for this very reason… Photographic output is still as good as any current flagship while just having very basic video features. You’re also not paying for the latest AF algorithms and super fast shooting if you don’t need it (which I don’t). At the price I paid (£1549 GBP) with full warranty it’s the best value photography focused mirrorless camera on sale, and Sony are really smart to still offer it as a new product.
@@paulhancock They definitely have excellent sensors and take great photos. I wanted to stick to current production cameras but on the used market they are a solid choice.
Thanks for this video. I am a photographer who rarely uses the video capabilities of my cameras. I do occasionally create video clips. That being said, I don’t mind if the body has video. Lumix, for example, does use the video for several different things. Primarily, like many photographers, I prefer my screen to tilt and not flip. For street photography a flip out screen makes the body more obvious. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Very interesting and I learnt something about stacked sensors, megapixels, and the relationship between photo and video. I love my stills, ironically I use Pana G9, but I ain't no perfectionist and still love the results on my wildlife photos. ATB MMMD
@@albedo0point39no they are not. The rotating screen is intended for the photographer to cover them up to emulate film shooting experience. Nothing to do with vlogging.
You've missed the point entirely. The cost of cameras for photography can be lowered by not including video features, like flippy screens and unnecessary cooling which also increases bulk. There's also the research and development costs that get passed down to the consumer. People don't shoot most videos on UA-cam with camcorders for a reason, they mostly suck for most things compared to mirrorless and you can't swap lenses.
I do hope we see a stronger split between photography and videography focused models now that these (semi)stacked sensors can have image quality compromises. It would be pretty disappointing if all camera options opt for that compromise rather than at least offering photographers the best possible quality.
when i decided to go into photography the only name that registered with me was Pentax and stuck with them around 20 yrs until my health stopped me carrying the weight around. As said excellent images and colour. Ergonomics were superb
Love the Shirt, Beard Bro! Btw the original R5 have the fastest Photo/Video mode switch when using "M-Fn" right next to shutter button. No other camera came even close...
Video title got my attention, I have been wondering about this topic. I didn't realize it was a cost no object type of video. Kind of disappointed. Surely there are other lower cost options for photography main cameras.
He pretty much addresses your point in the conclusion. Most of the concurrent photography first cameras have the higher megapixel counts of 40MP+. Which are more expensive. Cheaper cameras with lower megapixel counts are naturally better for hybrid shooting for little extra cost. So that's what the manufacturers do for the most part.
Odd there is no GFX mention? The problem with video that most people have is that it has ended up being the defining factor of if a camera is good or bad. -Two examples. The AF issue with Fuji is largely not a still photography problem, it's more an issue with video. But all anyone says is the AF is bad, period. That's not entirely true and it gives the wrong idea to people who might not realize people are talking about the video AF. Second, the EOS R. It was a very good stills camera. But, It received a lot of bad reviews because of it's video capabilities. Also, the other issue is R&D. Photographer's that hate video, want more time spent developing features and progress for stills. When a camera comes out and the only thing discussed is it's video chops, it comes off like the stills portion was either an after thought or just what we had before carried over. And I understand that we have come a long way and photo has plateaued a bit, but all the more reason to spend more time working on it, over video.
Agree completely. I've absolutely no use whatsoever for a video recorder. And I hate the fact that I have to pay more, the camera is heavier, because there's a bunch of shit in it that I don't use
It’s not completely for free. You need processing power and a good heat management to record high res video. This is barely necessary for photography unless you shoot continuously at high burst rates.
@@craeshcameras not optimised to record videos can still record videos, like the Z5. It's possible to get cameras that is not video oriented but it is totally absurd to artificially disable video capabilities.
I bought a used Leica M240 with a manual lens. It's as close to old school photography you can get. The colour output, organic and not too digital. A rangefinder, you photograph what you see, not reflected light or processed light.
For all you CCD fans out there, the Sony a390 is an option. Not a "professional" grade camera but can be found for pretty cheap and, to my knowledge, it has the highest resolution CCD in a DSLR at 14mp. It is APS-C which I think all CCD-based DSLR cameras are. Also being Sony's A mount it'll take some great old Minolta glass which you can find for pretty cheap and is good quality.
Thank you. Going through my photo library with decades of images, I have almost no video at all. In fact, I feel confident that I could count all of the "moving pictures" I've shot on two hands so I guess this video is the ideal content for me. Also, I thought I was more or less alone in kind of hating the now ubiquitous "tilty flippy screen." On the other hand, I love a simple tilt screen. It's one of the reasons that I still prefer shooting with my original E-M1 over my much newer EOS R. Seeing you mention this in your presentation was reassuring-I am most definitely a "stills photographer." Cheers. Now, considering all the cameras you mentioned, which is your favorite for general purpose photography with a bias towards landscape and nature? For me, I think it comes down to the OM-1 or the Z7 II.
I only take photos and I'll never buy another camera that doesn't have a fully articulating screen. "A regular flip up screen helps when shooting from a lower angle" ... so photographers never shoot vertically from a low angle? Not sure why it's synonymous with video; sure it helps with filming yourself, but I'm constantly cursing my limited screen and i can't be the only one. I also like to shoot ceilings and spiral staircases, so there's something to be said for how a flippy screen helps to shoot straight up too.
I really like Nikon. I am using Nikon Z50 but the problem is that it does not have mechanical image stabilization and I am using 3rd party lenses (Sigma 56mm, Viltrox 13mm). I wonder if Nikon will release a Z mount crop camera with image stabilization in the future.
I bought a Panasonic S9 for travelling because it got 20 minutes FHD video recording limit! 🤣 Btw, the true reason is I conside S9 as a cheapo Leica L-mount camera and I can focus on photography with such a compact full frame body. Leak of compact AF lens? Use an adaptor and all M-mount lenses uses prefectly on it!
To pivot on this idea, you might consider maybe a best cameras just for photography at different price points? Aim for used only cameras ideally, get KEH to sponsor and reference their listings. The benefit here is older cameras have been pretty darn good at photography for a long time, it's often video that's the main improvement with each new iteration. You could do sub £100, £100-200, £200-300 etc, there's some fab older micro four thirds cameras out there, or apsc, or even old full frame DSLRs.
As much as video capabilities might annoy diehard photogs, I have a feeling many of these companies have survived only because of the expanded consumer base that video brought in. It’s tough out there for cameras that aren’t part of a phone!
In a way yes, but then you shrink your old clientele that regularly used to purchase cameras for stills because they now decide that after all why upgrade when the old stuff works fine and the new stuff offers no improvement for stills, in fact a possible downgrade due to stacked sensors. I would prefer to keep return clients at a time when the market shrinks.
You missed the Canon R - still a champ for photos despite only being available used. Cost is a fraction of your recommended R5, and let's not even talk about the R5 II. 😎
Great fun. Thanks guys. My issue is not so much the extra cost for video features. There’s hardly any. My issue is that for some brands video features clutter up the menus and handling. I love the way how Leica separates the menus for stills and video. At the other end of the spectrum is Fuji, with their outdated menu structure that’s a complete mess when you dive into it.
Question in regards to sony purely for photography. If I don't want the 61 megapixel from the A7R5, would you consider the A93 the better pure photo camera?
Team PentaxPixel! 😂
1080p/30fps on the K1-II was quite good in a low light situation during a weeding. The result was far better than the video from my iPhone 12 ProMax. Well you can’t beat pixel size with software, imho.
Pentax K-3 Mark III Colour or Monochrome. They do shoot video, but they are very photo-centric cameras. They even have fixed LCDs, and I'm sure it's possible to glue the mode switch. They are also the most beautiful cameras on the market today, and I say that as a Panasonic user.
The kuh-three-three!
Only if image quality isn't as important as a nostalgic look. It is because of the outdated lens choice. This reflects the lens performance standards of DSLR APS-C lenses 20 years ago, as if frozen in time. Left behind by the lens image quality leaps which the mirrorless era brought to the market in the last 10 years.
If you're on a budget:
-nikon d700
-fuji xt-1/2/3
-canon 5d mk1/2
Any of the E-M series from olympus can be had for a steal used
Nikon D850 if you can afford it
5D mk 2 aka the first DSLR for video? A weird choice for person who hates it.
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@@unn4medfeel1ngit's ironic but it's true. The 5DII is now obsolete for modern video standards but remains a great photo camera. It can be had for 250-300 bucks, it's a bargain.
Ricoh GR and Fujifilm GFX linea should be there, too
Ricoh!!!
griii should be at the top of this list
I'm actually surprised GFX isn't mentioned in the Fuji section, it's not ideal for video and is clearly a photography first line of cameras
You should have "filmed" this video with timelapse 😅
That would be awesome, like a stop animation video, great idea!!!
On an analog camera..
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Made my day!
intervalometer…….
Thanks for the Pentax K1 mention. A real deal serious camera that deserves more love
Yes! Just got one and I realised just how much I've missed using a good DSLR.
You mean more love than being voted "the second worst camera of 2018" by the DPRreview clowns, that include Chris and Jordan? These hopeless amateurs did not even cover the topic that should have been one of the most important ones of this video: "Which cameras uses sensors that do not compromise on IQ?" What is even the point of naming all the other cameras that make IQ compromises but are just bad at video? Who is after a camera that lacks a certain feature (here video) without getting something in return (here IQ)?
@@coolcat23 as Pentax owner I get where you're coming from, but maybe cool down cool cat ❄️ 😎
@@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x AFAIC, I calmy shared a fact. There is no anger here, just disappointment about the lack of quality of reviews. They are amateurs because the lack the technical foundation (have you ever heard Jordan's nonsense about "base ISO"? ). They are hopeless because they don't improve as evidenced by this video. Some commenter said this video was meant as a joke to expose all cameras that are bad at video. Do you think anyone should have been able to get that impression from the video? It wouldn't have been possible to get that impression if the video had more points about how supporting video can impact on photography IQ. Note that stacked sensors are used in only a few cameras, it is hardly worth mentioning this aspect (but surely justified). I wouldn't mind if they criticised Pentax hard if they used correct arguments, I'm not a brand fan boy with hurt feelings, the trouble is that they sometimes use the wrong reasons and regularly fail to highlight advantages. That's OK for amateurs, which is why I'm calling them that.
The K1 II is sensor tech of 13 years ago (same sensor as the Nikon D800), but unlike Nikon, the K1 II compromises image quality, via forced denoising in RAW files even at lower ISO (to obscure the fact how much they were behind competition regarding the old sensor).
This forced denoising degrades the red channel especially.
Also, because it destroys the natural statistical distribution of natural noise, this creates severe artifacts when using contemporary AI denoising software (which is trained only on non-compromised, natural noise). Hence, the K1 II is locked out from using AI denoising.
It's not that people don't want video, it's that people are tired of photo image quality being stalled for the last 10 years due to so much focus on video! We all warned that this would happen, and now it has. (sorry Jorden) but only UA-camrs use video and any one else using video professionally, use a dedicated system anyway.
Yes, all the comments saying "just ignore the video mode" didn't get the point. I think as AI takes away control, there'll be a demand for ergonomics and process in photography. Pentax could actually have a lucky shot here, their sensors wouldn't need pdaf so can use that to gain image quality.
100% The R6mk2 doesn't have stacked sensors for example and clearly the video on it is not top end or the thing wouldn't cost $2300 less than the R5mk2. Canon certainly has all the tools and tech to make a still camera with 50mp that would cost much less than the R5Mk2, but then the MK2 would probably not sell much anymore. That's why regular purchasers like me (since 2000) have stopped buying cameras for the past 5-10 years. They are actually adding to shrinking their market at a time it has dropped considerably and have to raise the cost of hybrids. There are actually no stats showing how much people actually use their cameras in video mode regularly.
And how do you propose they increase image quality? More megapixels and more dynamic range? Theyre already doing that in case you havent noticed. I am pretty glad that as a broke hybrid shooter, I can have cameras shooting 4k 60 10bit video for under $800
Kasey from camera conspiracy just made 10 accounts to downvote this video
😂 too true!!!
"Photographers are losers... They think an x100v is worth 3000 dollars..
Lmao so trueee
I think we just lost the picture review show…
Let's be honest, no one else has mastered slow motion Street crossing videography like he has.
I just imported a Nikon Df from Japan to London for $900 USD which is quite affordable at the moment with the British pound being quite strong. I absolutely love it
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Have to give some love to the Nikon Zf. I love that I can close and protect the screen. I rarely use it, and never use video. I also love how the Zf works with my manual focus Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO lens.
“Unfortunately” I think Zf video quality might be too good for this list though
Also it is a flippyfloppy screen designed for video, not a tilty screen which works best for photography.
I would have bought Zf if they designed it right -- made the body smaller lighter with a normal grip, and also if they got rid of those ridiculous dials and articulating LCD, and used the same tilting LCD and buttons/dials as in Z6/7.
@@megatryn, doesn't matter if you don't use it.
@@Abc1987, no doubt. I was just foolin' about.
This is the whole reason I bought the X2D - I wanted a pure photography camera; an ‘artist’s tool.’ Six months in, I’m still very happy with my decision. My R6 MKII takes care of video, and a newly purchased Leica D-Lux 8 is the perfect EDC - proving this very weekend in the mountains to be a perfect walkabout companion.
Yes! This is exactly what photo-only photographers need. Not just the specific camera models you discussed, but the background logic behind the choices. Now when I feel the need for more pixels, I know where to go. Have, in fact, often been told where to go...
Thanks again for giving a review and mention on Pentax, big respect guys you are a great channel 👍
As a user ❤ the Pentax K1 mention! I really wish Pentax would just make a retro photo only DSLR because who shoot video with Pentax!
I just want to use my small limited lenses on slimmer camera, something like the ZF or Fuji designs.
Just got the Pentax K1 ii coming over from Sony! It's truöy an amazing camera!
C'mon, whatever limited videofeature it has it basically acts as if it had no video in it, why just not to ignore it? Zf or Fuji are mirrorless, that's why they're slimmer, it doesn't relate to camera being video-equipped or free O_o BTW, Sony A900 is a true photography only DSLR, having no video-recording or even any live-view setting
@@kamilwiejaczka272 it takes up space in buttons and menus, costs hardware/firmware development and testing budget and no one in their right mind would want to make video with a Pentax, can't even use the ibis decently 😀
@@sofiadahlen1187 we’re you coming over from a Full Frame mirrorless Sony?
For myself it’s been a pleasure using the K1 over the last four years, but I’ve only ever used Pentax cameras, so I am curious to know what you like about the camera!
@@kamilwiejaczka272 agree and from what I’ve heard it seems like taking away the video might up the cost of the camera. I still think however that Pentax could trim off some of the bulk and make things a bit more sturdy, like having the mount on the camera be actually attached to metal instead of plastic. I’ve seen some K1s with the camera 📸 mount ripped off from heavier lenses. I don’t think that would ever happen with any of the old metal film bodies.
Don’t get me wrong I love Pentax that is why I’ve been using their DSLRs since 2009, but there is definitely room for improvement.
I love my Panasonic Lumix S1 because of 3 features: the back display with 2 axes. The dual ISO, beginning at ISO 4000 and the high resolution EVF. It's heavy and bulky. But it's performance in low light is sensational. And it is rugged. And used ones are a bargain. And I even shot video with it!
Forgot about the still available Nikon D850 which is arguably the best DSLR of all time and extremely capable even in 2024.
100% this. Also the D810 is quite a bit cheaper and about 90% as good
It’s a great camera indeed but man I don’t miss carrying it over my neck or shoulder…it was chunky
I think they specifically focused on recent cameras which are mirrorless with Pentax being an exception.
Z7 II is cheaper, has same sensor, and gives you the ability to use mirrorless OR SLR lenses.
@@the_wiki9408True, but the D850 probably has better AF for things like wildlife.
For me it's only one choice: Nikon Zf, full-frame, excelent build quality, manual dials, has arguably the best primes, and it looks great, it's a joy to use.
I have a Canon RP I got for 650euros and Im super happy with it! Doing some paid gigs for brands and restaurants and it is awesoome for someone who doesnt need highest end stuff ☺️
Jordan probably hated making this.
7:58 the dog is a paid actor.
No barking though, he can’t have a speaking role because he is non union. 😢
Yeah PentaxPixel sounds awesome 👍
Never did get into video, so was/is never a purchasing factor. Hence I was a Pentaxian for over a decade and now m43 with Olympus/OM systems (since as you mentioned Olympus was focused on stills and Lumix Video). This is a great subject.
The Olympus/OM systems and Panasonic Lumix concentration on different things (stills vs video) is the huge strength of m43 so I disagree about wanting Lumix to get better at photography.
100% on point.
So what would your dream still photo features have .
I would start with what I have - 5dsr and what my wishlist would be:
-More megapixels.
-increased dynamic range.
-Articulated AND removable rear touch screen - therefore I'm not teathered to the camera.
-NOT having to switch to bulb mode for any exposure length.
Yes the R5 would give us some of my requirements, but I don't believe it would be worth it.
It is quite funny. Looking at all my camera systems, GFX100s, Panasonic S1R, X-H2 and a D850, I pick camera systems which are not great at video, even though I have a degree in filmmaking, and have worked as a tv cameraman and director (I wasn't very good).
The only thing I really hate is the rear flippy screen, which just annoys the hell out of me. If I am going to shoot a video, I am going to use an external recorder, which gives a much bigger screen anyway and is much more practical.
I do have to give Sony credit for their compromise, though I do still prefer the LCD design in S1R and GFX, which does allow for side tilt when shooting portrait from low.
I’m in love with my Nikon d200. It has no video mode and sheets, magical CCD photos.
Nikon Z5 is the best budget jnon video camera bruhs
I adore my Z5. It's not perfect - I wish it had a faster burst rate - but it creates such stunning files to work with. That's most of the reason I moved over from Canon DSLRs to Nikon mirrorless - the value for money that the Z5 offers (especially second hand) is excellent 👌🏻
Z6 can be cheaper on used market
Under a grand for all it has -- yea, I couldn't agree more.
Agreed. I also have a Z7II, but can't bring myself to dump the Z5. There is something about it. Probably keep it forever.
Z6/6ii are not significantly more expensive but a lot better.
Not a single budget camera for photography 😢
LUMIX G5, Olympus E-P3, Canon 50D, Canon RP, Pentax K-7. These are my picks 😉
Good point. My E-P3 goes everywhere I go. For stills and landscape I use my Cannon 40D.
Which one of those are in-production cameras?
@@icepop4who The RP. But my cameras take the same quality pictures during production as well as after production.
I get what you're saying, but this would be a kind of ridiculous video for them to make it they were to consider literally every camera made in the past by every manufacturer that you could buy used
@@AdamJRichardson I know 😃, however, just one good camera for photography would have been nice. I would never spend this much Money on a camera for "photography only". The problem currently is that there are no cameras with all the video features ripped out for lower prices. Even If people do not use video they always pay for it.
I agree. I don’t EVER shot video with my Fuji XT3
T5 is great, I never video with any camera, my phone can lol
I maybe used it once or twice. In almost 6 years. By I do use the metering mode dial, which Fuji unfortunately replaced by some video dial I’d never use. The metering mode dial is so handy.
Same here.. Xt-3 with only stills.
Interesting video. I like having both abilities, but appreciate those who don't. However, I think it was either Jordan or Gerald Undone who lamented certain cameras that had capable hardware that was artificially limited by software, and that's what any "pure" photo camera would be. Anyway, good discussion to be had!
Nobody is willing to spend time tinkering with cameras anymore. But yes, most mirrorless cameras can have altered software but too bad all the tubers and commenters argue about "what's the best hardware". I made videos on tinkering with the Sony a9iii software but I doubt anyone cares because there isn't any education on software development
@@TeslienFujifilm could really benefit from opening up their firmware for customisation
@@Moonstone-Redux All computers are the same. Sony has some coding stuff but there hasn't been any updates for years and 0 yt videos on it, so doing micro dev on my camera is super tiring. but it's possible if you spend the time to dev
I get that some people prefer to mostly shoot photos, in fact I'm mostly that guy when I travel. But those people who complain about a camera having video. What technology do they think is generating the image they use for composition on the screens or in the EVFs of mirrorless cameras? You know, that electronic picture that refreshes at, say 30-120fps? The fact is video is built-into modern cameras, as it's how they not only compose, but also meter the scene for exposure and white balance, not to mention recognise and track subjects in realtime. Remove it and you're left with a pretty basic camera. No problem with that either, but it's important to understand video is an inherent part of how modern cameras work for stills photography. If I really wanted to avoid the influence of video entirely, I'd go for an older DSLR that predates live view, something with a nice mature CCD like a Nikon D200.
Video complicates and compromises things far more than you seem willing to admit. Some people need a 1/1000 shutter synch way more than they need 8K video. Dump the video dead weight, and you can use that processing power to improve autofocus. You can reduce the size, weight, and cost of the camera. You don't need to worry about overheating. There are fewer things to break. You don't accidentally hit the video button when handling the camera. You can use cost-friendly storage cards. Guys who like to go fast but still need to go to Home Depot can buy a Dodge Durango Hellcat, but other guys who like to go really fast but don't GAF about Home Depot can buy a Corvette. There's room in the market for both.
Great point Gordon.
I love shooting with old cameras like the 20D, 6D,D200 etc. They are cheap as chips now, and they produce beautiful images.
@@TheChugMonkey agreed!
That's not the same. The high video specs that make the cameras more expensive, bigger, heavier, sacrificing DR and high ISO capabilities -- that's what people complain about.
So, you didn't watch the video...
I think this is satirical. Most of those critical about hybrid cameras don't "hate" video. They want a camera specifically manufactured for stills and not have to take a backseat in quality, specs and features.
I am a manual focus only macro photographer. I didn't want to pay for those fancy auto focus functions that I don't use, so I switched to 4x5😁.
Thank you for this video. My biggest complaint is the articulating screen. I want the screen to just tilt. I had written Sony off, but you mentioned the a7R V. I will take a look at that one.
Ricoh GRIII
Canon 5D Mark IV is old but still amazing for just photography. I sold mine years ago but I look forward to getting one for cheap one day. It was simply amazing! Another great DSLR was the Nikon 850.
I'm selling mine to get a second MK3 instead and some cash to put towards a new ND filter or two. MK3 is my favorite camera so far but yup MK4 is amazing too.
When I saw the title and heard you say Nikon, Z7ii popped right into my head! 😂
I almost exclusively shoot photos with my X-T4. A camera that was designed as a hybrid camera with video as a strong focus. This was a moment where Fuji seemed to try to consolidate everything into one line before pushing the X-T back towards photo.
I almost never use any of the video features but this camera still brings me nothing but joy. I’ve been around the world with it and taken tons of amazing images.
It’s easy to get caught up in the spec sheet and it may seem frustrating that there’s such a focus on video. But none of it matters once you start using the camera
canon 5d classic, 6d mark 1, 1ds mark 3 and nikon d700 is all u ever need for photography if u are serious about colors
PENTAX MENTIONED!!!!
Yes, but again incompetently. They should have pointed out that the K-1 II, like the S1R, uses a sensor that does not compromise photography IQ just so that video is better supported.
@coolcat23 if Pentax would release a K1iii, is there still a sensor on the market without pdaf?
@@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x Yes, Sony, for instance, offers the IMX455AQK-C which has 61MP and no on-sensor PDAF.
@@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x Yes, Sony offers sensor variants with or without on-sensor PDAF.
@@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x Yes, there are still sensors like that on the market. My comments keep disappearing, so I'm not including any details for a change.
It would be good if you can cover cameras that an average person can afford. I have the Canon 6D Mark II and it’s great for a photographer like me and it’s affordable. DSLRs are still out there and they are more photosentrick I think. The most analog still camera I have, with no video capabilities is My Camp Snap cameras. That’s as analogue as you can get in a digital camera.
Great video, thank you!
You forgot the Fuji GFX 50 and older GFX 100.
Nikon Z 7II ❤❤❤❤ Love this camera!
I have the original Z7. They have the same sensor so the image quality and Nikon colours are superb. Not good for anything fast action (get a D500) but otherwise superb image quality for a next to nothing price.
Mention the Nikon Z5? Outdated for video so right now you can get em new for like $900 .. until a mark ii hits no doubt with a sensor worse for still :P No i don't have one, I am a Lumx guy atm, but I think it appears to be an amazing deal.
The problem with Z5 is pretty bad AF -- that's why it so cheap, adding a bit more one can get Z6ii with a lot better everything.
@@ElementaryWatson-123Z5 have actually really good autofocus system right now after all fw updates, it is faster, more responsive and very accurate. I would say it's now on the same level as Z6II.
My experience with Lumix bodies differs from the opinion presented here. It is ironic to criticize the Lumix DFD system for photographers, especially when it tracks very well and accurately for photography. 14bit files starting with the GH5s, image-stacking, adjustable focus throw, 1/320 sync, multi-position screen... are enough on top the sensor quality for most. The S1R is my primary photography camera, I cannot see any need to 'upgrade' for at least five more years. Secondary photography cameras are the 1DX and 1V together for events, and I like that I can use my 'old' Canon/Sigma glass on the Lumix seamlessly.
I get focusing on more recent mirrorless cameras, but couldn't an answer to high-quality photo without video problems be found in older DSLR? The Nikon D850 is an all-time classic. I carried a Canon 7D back when my kids were little and those pics still look amazing, and there are lots of older models of 5Ds around.
I have a Ricoh GR III & a Leica Q2 Monochrom, two cameras that you can forget about the video. I re-mapped the video button on my GR III, to back button focus because I never intend to use the video mode
He talked about Pentax!!!!
I get my (used) K-1 ii on Monday!!! Excited to see what I can do with it. Using old Pentax glass with it (m42 lenses)
When buying an M42 (Lens) to K-Mount adapter, remember to use the authentic Pentax version. I've had 3 (2 Urth brand, 1 unknown brand) get completely stuck in my DSLR's. Luckily I got them out with out breaking the camera, but I broke the adapters.
My favourite non video stills camera, which I still use, is the Nikon D700. I also own the Nikon Z7II, and as a stills shooter, it lovely, except for high speed focus.
The Nikon D3 doesn't have video at all & its like $3-400 freedom bucks. There's like 400 F mount lenses to choose from. If you're on an ultra budget build mission. That's the best bang for your buck
D700 also good if can't find a nice D3
Still have my D700. I had Nikon refurbish it a few years ago.
Cool. I have a Nikon D3 with a shutter count of 12,000 frames. Essentially, it's new. I know his time will come)
I'm so glad you specifically called out articulating screens in this video. I'm finally in a position where I will soon have the money to spend on a new camera, and I've watched release after release from every manufacturer with these awful screens. Although I thought the Z8 might be OK, because it kind of does both, but I need to go look at one. I'm really hoping a Z7 III has either something like the A7r V, or at least the Z8
The side flipped screen is such an awkward angle. Waist-level existed before SLR it's a natural workflow. Panasonic put it on the video centric GH7 but not on the G9ii. Mysterious choices...
I am exclusively a photographer, and I love the Canon style articulating rear screen. I don’t understand why other photographers wouldn’t like them?
I was thinking this too like? They're extremely valuable to have for getting weird angles without breaking your back.
@bigd7696 I love having options and the Canon style fold out screen gives me the most options.
PentaxPixel army assemble
HELLO MY FELLOW PENTAXIANS 🇲🇽🇯🇵
I bought a brand new Sony A7R III (A) earlier this year for this very reason… Photographic output is still as good as any current flagship while just having very basic video features.
You’re also not paying for the latest AF algorithms and super fast shooting if you don’t need it (which I don’t).
At the price I paid (£1549 GBP) with full warranty it’s the best value photography focused mirrorless camera on sale, and Sony are really smart to still offer it as a new product.
@@paulhancock They definitely have excellent sensors and take great photos. I wanted to stick to current production cameras but on the used market they are a solid choice.
Thanks for this video.
I am a photographer who rarely uses the video capabilities of my cameras. I do occasionally create video clips. That being said, I don’t mind if the body has video. Lumix, for example, does use the video for several different things. Primarily, like many photographers, I prefer my screen to tilt and not flip. For street photography a flip out screen makes the body more obvious.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Very interesting and I learnt something about stacked sensors, megapixels, and the relationship between photo and video. I love my stills, ironically I use Pana G9, but I ain't no perfectionist and still love the results on my wildlife photos. ATB MMMD
Team Pantax, and one thing the K1 doesn`t put out a constant video feed cause of prism and mirror
Nikon Zf/Zfc? Ricoh GR III/IIIx? No budget recommendations? :(
Any budget camera is usually good at photos anyways. The compromise for a budget camera mostly comes down to stripping away video features.
they talk about this at the end of the video
Zfc and Zf both have a front rotating screen, which is a compromise to suit video folk.
z7ii only has tilt… much nicer for photographic framing.
@@albedo0point39no they are not. The rotating screen is intended for the photographer to cover them up to emulate film shooting experience. Nothing to do with vlogging.
As someone who buy camera purely for photography and not video, I bought Lumix LX10 for $400 3 months ago and it really serves me well
finally, im tired of video camera just get a camcorder
RIGHT???
Unfortunately, camcorders are very poor for video.
You've missed the point entirely.
The cost of cameras for photography can be lowered by not including video features, like flippy screens and unnecessary cooling which also increases bulk.
There's also the research and development costs that get passed down to the consumer.
People don't shoot most videos on UA-cam with camcorders for a reason, they mostly suck for most things compared to mirrorless and you can't swap lenses.
Or, wait for this. You ready? Just don't use it for video 😮😮😮
People acting like these features get in the way 🤡
Indeed... stop overhype about video especially wedding, who the hell on earth showed an hour long video to guests and force them to watch ? Geezzz
I do hope we see a stronger split between photography and videography focused models now that these (semi)stacked sensors can have image quality compromises. It would be pretty disappointing if all camera options opt for that compromise rather than at least offering photographers the best possible quality.
No phase one on this list is criminal 😂
when i decided to go into photography the only name that registered with me was Pentax and stuck with them around 20 yrs until my health stopped me carrying the weight around. As said excellent images and colour. Ergonomics were superb
Love the Shirt, Beard Bro! Btw the original R5 have the fastest Photo/Video mode switch when using "M-Fn" right next to shutter button. No other camera came even close...
Hi Chris, maybe the Nikon Z5 is a good option to focus on photo as the video section is basic…😅
D850 is also still sold :)
Video title got my attention, I have been wondering about this topic. I didn't realize it was a cost no object type of video. Kind of disappointed. Surely there are other lower cost options for photography main cameras.
He pretty much addresses your point in the conclusion. Most of the concurrent photography first cameras have the higher megapixel counts of 40MP+. Which are more expensive. Cheaper cameras with lower megapixel counts are naturally better for hybrid shooting for little extra cost. So that's what the manufacturers do for the most part.
buy a second hand photo camera, two to four years old. I still have my Sony A7R II; worth practically nothing second hand but excellent for photos
Fuju GFX 50s ii ...its brilliant and now affordable 👌 👏 meduim format inage quality is second to none
Odd there is no GFX mention? The problem with video that most people have is that it has ended up being the defining factor of if a camera is good or bad. -Two examples. The AF issue with Fuji is largely not a still photography problem, it's more an issue with video. But all anyone says is the AF is bad, period. That's not entirely true and it gives the wrong idea to people who might not realize people are talking about the video AF. Second, the EOS R. It was a very good stills camera. But, It received a lot of bad reviews because of it's video capabilities. Also, the other issue is R&D. Photographer's that hate video, want more time spent developing features and progress for stills. When a camera comes out and the only thing discussed is it's video chops, it comes off like the stills portion was either an after thought or just what we had before carried over. And I understand that we have come a long way and photo has plateaued a bit, but all the more reason to spend more time working on it, over video.
Agree completely. I've absolutely no use whatsoever for a video recorder. And I hate the fact that I have to pay more, the camera is heavier, because there's a bunch of shit in it that I don't use
but he says the opposite: you pay less to get more: video is included for free
It’s not completely for free. You need processing power and a good heat management to record high res video. This is barely necessary for photography unless you shoot continuously at high burst rates.
No you don't pay more for video. Don't be ridiculous.
@@craeshcameras not optimised to record videos can still record videos, like the Z5. It's possible to get cameras that is not video oriented but it is totally absurd to artificially disable video capabilities.
@@shang-hsienyang1284 who wants to artificially disable video?
I couldn't get Google translate to work on Chris' shirt. It kept focusing that graphic image of wonderfully perfect hair.
It simply meant 'moustache dude' 😂
I bought a used Leica M240 with a manual lens. It's as close to old school photography you can get. The colour output, organic and not too digital. A rangefinder, you photograph what you see, not reflected light or processed light.
Check out the KEH showroom if you are ever in Atlanta. ❤
Love these type of videos guys keep bringing more🎉
Never commented on one of your videos before, but Jordan, this video looks gorgeous... nicely done
For all you CCD fans out there, the Sony a390 is an option. Not a "professional" grade camera but can be found for pretty cheap and, to my knowledge, it has the highest resolution CCD in a DSLR at 14mp. It is APS-C which I think all CCD-based DSLR cameras are. Also being Sony's A mount it'll take some great old Minolta glass which you can find for pretty cheap and is good quality.
I know it's a hybrid, but it is still primarily aimed at photographers, and it is, in my opinion, a lovely camera to use, and that is the Nikon Zf.
Thank you. Going through my photo library with decades of images, I have almost no video at all. In fact, I feel confident that I could count all of the "moving pictures" I've shot on two hands so I guess this video is the ideal content for me. Also, I thought I was more or less alone in kind of hating the now ubiquitous "tilty flippy screen." On the other hand, I love a simple tilt screen. It's one of the reasons that I still prefer shooting with my original E-M1 over my much newer EOS R. Seeing you mention this in your presentation was reassuring-I am most definitely a "stills photographer." Cheers. Now, considering all the cameras you mentioned, which is your favorite for general purpose photography with a bias towards landscape and nature? For me, I think it comes down to the OM-1 or the Z7 II.
I only take photos and I'll never buy another camera that doesn't have a fully articulating screen. "A regular flip up screen helps when shooting from a lower angle" ... so photographers never shoot vertically from a low angle? Not sure why it's synonymous with video; sure it helps with filming yourself, but I'm constantly cursing my limited screen and i can't be the only one. I also like to shoot ceilings and spiral staircases, so there's something to be said for how a flippy screen helps to shoot straight up too.
I really like Nikon. I am using Nikon Z50 but the problem is that it does not have mechanical image stabilization and I am using 3rd party lenses (Sigma 56mm, Viltrox 13mm). I wonder if Nikon will release a Z mount crop camera with image stabilization in the future.
Most if not all Nikon full frame mirrorless cameras have a crop to APS-C facility. My 45mpx Z7 has it in the quick menu.
@@christianpetersen1782 I know that. But that's a waste of money. We can buy crop cameras and crop lenses instead of full frame and crop cameras.
GFX 50SII is amazing for stills, but can only do 1080p30, that's a pure photography camera for this list
I bought a Panasonic S9 for travelling because it got 20 minutes FHD video recording limit! 🤣
Btw, the true reason is I conside S9 as a cheapo Leica L-mount camera and I can focus on photography with such a compact full frame body. Leak of compact AF lens? Use an adaptor and all M-mount lenses uses prefectly on it!
Saving up for the Blad. ❤
For me, I choose Sony a7riii. I am still using it today. Sony a7riii spec are more than enough for me to shoot photo for travel and casual photo.
The Sony A7RIII are a great Camera ! I had it, but no I use Sony A7RIVA and Sony A7RV. At the moment a Sony A7RIIIA are cheaper than a Sony A7IV.
I have a Canon 5Dii that I use for my “serious” photography. Love the images. Have never took a video with it. Video is something I use my iPhone for.
To pivot on this idea, you might consider maybe a best cameras just for photography at different price points? Aim for used only cameras ideally, get KEH to sponsor and reference their listings. The benefit here is older cameras have been pretty darn good at photography for a long time, it's often video that's the main improvement with each new iteration. You could do sub £100, £100-200, £200-300 etc, there's some fab older micro four thirds cameras out there, or apsc, or even old full frame DSLRs.
You missed one of the best photography camera's that has very questionable video capabilities...the Nikon D850.
Om5 definitely worth more attention, new sensor, hand held high resolution mode, digital nd filter, light weight compact, great for travel
As much as video capabilities might annoy diehard photogs, I have a feeling many of these companies have survived only because of the expanded consumer base that video brought in. It’s tough out there for cameras that aren’t part of a phone!
In a way yes, but then you shrink your old clientele that regularly used to purchase cameras for stills because they now decide that after all why upgrade when the old stuff works fine and the new stuff offers no improvement for stills, in fact a possible downgrade due to stacked sensors. I would prefer to keep return clients at a time when the market shrinks.
@@benoitpigeon487 I bet there'll be a revival of stills cameras. The monochrome leica and pentax hit a snare.
Is Z6 mark 1 a good candidate?
This I've been looking for. Thanx
I will never not find funny that of the Pentax "Kay Three-Three".
I'm loving the Canon R10 especially with a 28mm lens, I never used the video features in fact I forget they're even there.
You missed the Canon R - still a champ for photos despite only being available used. Cost is a fraction of your recommended R5, and let's not even talk about the R5 II.
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OK - my favorite part was young Chris running back and forth on the old video! 😂
Good timing. I was just looking up this topic yesterday
Ricoh GRIII & GRIIIx
Fujifilm X100VI
Doesn't get any simpler.
Great fun. Thanks guys. My issue is not so much the extra cost for video features. There’s hardly any. My issue is that for some brands video features clutter up the menus and handling. I love the way how Leica separates the menus for stills and video. At the other end of the spectrum is Fuji, with their outdated menu structure that’s a complete mess when you dive into it.
Fuji menus are not great - but, in the field, you can often just use the wonderful camera controls without going near the menus.
Question in regards to sony purely for photography. If I don't want the 61 megapixel from the A7R5, would you consider the A93 the better pure photo camera?
Still happy with my Nikon D750 😁💪
PENTAX, PENTAX, PENTAX!