Jean Pierre Fux Had a BETTER BACK Than Dorian Yates?

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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2022
  • Today we will be getting to the bottom of a rumor spreading around that Jean Pierre Fux had a better back than Dorian Yates himself. I would like to get to the truth so lets look at this at all angles and either agree with the Fux fans or DEBUNK this myth of Jean Pierre Fux having a better back than The Shadow.
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  • @jpfux511
    @jpfux511 Рік тому +217

    Dorian’s Back was definitely quite a bit better and fuller then mine especially in the lower insertion with better hardness . Would classify his as one of the top 3 backs of all time with Heath and Ronnie and Stubs being a close fourth possibly Johnny Jackson fifth . My back was very aesthetic in the rear double biceps pose and somewhere between 8-15 of all time backs . This is not an attempt of being humble it’s what I seen close up , what I can say to make my case is that in a time where Dorian was dominating everybody with his back I came a bit closer then the rest of the pack (maybe with the exception of Ronnie)

    • @Slid3rx
      @Slid3rx Рік тому +20

      Legend

    • @superluminatmos
      @superluminatmos Рік тому +39

      One of the best and most honest replies I ever read, this is great, we need more pros weighing in with solid takes, you're a legend sir.

    • @scottish__beard8856
      @scottish__beard8856 Рік тому +15

      @@superluminatmos Jean pierre has always been like this towards dorian. He always gives him respect on Instagram! The same with Mike Francois praising how good dorian was too. Fantastic camaraderie between these guys back then!

    • @Ahmed-jv7oc
      @Ahmed-jv7oc Рік тому +2

      Ayo what😭

    • @drdave971
      @drdave971 Рік тому +7

      Wow I think your back is up there in top 5 as far as size and development great humility

  • @chrissuponcic5181
    @chrissuponcic5181 Рік тому +38

    Yates was just insane but Fux definitely had one of the best backs in the 90s

  • @allnfun6315
    @allnfun6315 Рік тому +45

    Very close. But Dorian’s extra grainyness got him the win, right or wrong. Despite other shortcomings.

    • @sean70729
      @sean70729 Рік тому +2

      Absolutely Dorians back was super shredded to the point he won in 97 despite a distended belly because he was just ripped to shreds everywhere else, his workouts were scary.

  • @simbanugz2906
    @simbanugz2906 Рік тому +33

    as a Dorianite I have to say you did a pretty good job on this video, At first i was like oh heck no is he dissing Dorian but after watching the video Those back shots are crazy from Jean, Over the last 3 years Ive gone from pretty much only watching Nick strength and power to only watching Marx max muscle. I love these comparison.

    • @jenthomas345
      @jenthomas345 Рік тому

      @imofftheleantho why

    • @Chuckichanly
      @Chuckichanly Рік тому

      .

    • @MikeOxtinks
      @MikeOxtinks Рік тому +1

      Nick is boring af

    • @keendeesjarlais3636
      @keendeesjarlais3636 Рік тому

      dorian had more back development marginally , but dam fux had a chest and arms that dorian would never have.

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 11 місяців тому

      @@jenthomas345 because he doesn't possess any knowledge when it comes to bb.
      His predictions and analysis are the biggest waste of time I've seen in bb circles.
      NSP is primarily a news channel. He reports events, placings, etc etc and he should stick to that

  • @bmx7596
    @bmx7596 Рік тому +15

    01:33 genetically, the overall shape here of Jean's back is extremely similar to Ronnie's. The front is weirdly much different.

  • @derpfrog5625
    @derpfrog5625 Рік тому +9

    Fux had the recipe save injury who knows what a beast he'd be .. thick granity

  • @misfireswithabuhajaar9470
    @misfireswithabuhajaar9470 Рік тому +10

    Dorians back double at 1:16 is just nuts

    • @simbanugz2906
      @simbanugz2906 Рік тому +1

      Crazy is how much more shredded he was in the pick, everybody jokes about how scary it be to run into a prime mike tyson in a alleyway, to be Dorian yates at his prime would scare me more. One knock you out the other pull you apart. lol

    • @doublem1975x
      @doublem1975x Рік тому +3

      His growing lat asymmetry is really noticeable here.

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 11 місяців тому

      @@simbanugz2906 funnily enough, Dorian and Tyson did meet, Mike even said something along the lines of "damn, you're one bad n....r" lol

  • @DurinDaemonenmetzler
    @DurinDaemonenmetzler Рік тому +2

    Thank you!! That was one of the comparisons i always wanted to see.
    ... Now i would like to see Jean-Pierre Fux of Mr.O '97 or German Grand Prix '96 against on of the top five at the Mr.O _97.

  • @raymondfarrell6585
    @raymondfarrell6585 Рік тому +2

    It's about time Fux got credit for something. Throughout his career he never got credit for his greatness. His size in general is phenomenal. He's not in the same category as Dorian but let's start giving him his due! 💪mrwtby

  • @DanielReyes-zu8em
    @DanielReyes-zu8em Рік тому +6

    Do a comparison of Fux back to Ronnie Coleman. That would be a great comparison.

  • @chrisballard5743
    @chrisballard5743 Рік тому +3

    The crazy thing about Dorian, is the year he was in arguably his worst condition, his back was probably at it's best which was 97. I remember seeing that video of him entering the stage from the backstage area. And you saw him walking in from the back, his width and sheer mass was just ungodly.

  • @alexquinonez7376
    @alexquinonez7376 Рік тому +1

    They look like twins from the back. Crazy

  • @Nirsterkur
    @Nirsterkur Рік тому +2

    JPF's Back was underrated until now... Wow!

  • @JimSib1
    @JimSib1 Рік тому +3

    Why is it a joke? If Nick Walker supposedly have better arms than Ronnie Coleman then Pierre can have a better back than Dorian. I always felt that Dorian's lats overshadowed his shoulder width.

  • @stevegeorge6880
    @stevegeorge6880 Рік тому +10

    I would say it was comparable at their relative bests. Like, you could almost switch out pictures of their standing relaxed backs from the 97 Olympia without being able to tell the difference because of the amount of sheer Mass. Dorian didn't just have the meat though. He knew how to use it.

    • @woahblackbettybamalam
      @woahblackbettybamalam Рік тому +8

      Lol those last two sentences 🤣

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 Рік тому +2

      he had something Jean never did. Deep, deep conditioning. Hardness never seen before. Dryness and graininess. His back was absolutely SHREDDED in every sense of that word which cannot be said about Fux's back. Size for size? width for width? sure. But he doesn't even come close in the aspects I just mentioned

    • @wyattb6066
      @wyattb6066 Рік тому +1

      @@dj_m19 In simpler terms Dorian had the MASS WITH CLASS!!!

    • @mattdavies5424
      @mattdavies5424 Рік тому

      Same goes with Savolainen as far as the back double biceps. His back double b from 97 rivals Dorian however Marko couldn’t maintain or recreate the mass and condition he had that year. Ultimately Dorian is better considering his back was peerless practically every year since his first Mr O win. Yates beats everyone regarding the back itself on longevity and consistency.

    • @sean70729
      @sean70729 Рік тому

      One of the best posers ever, he took over the stage every time.

  • @Bigguns761
    @Bigguns761 Рік тому +4

    JPF had clearly more mass and was more 3d. Yates had a thinner skin that's it.

  • @leccy9901
    @leccy9901 Рік тому +6

    They where close from the back, they do both look amazing. But the lats from the front, front lat spread, dorian is a clear winner

    • @kingcarisma
      @kingcarisma Рік тому +2

      Dorian had best front L spread in history

  • @gerritlageweg2055
    @gerritlageweg2055 Рік тому +1

    Seen him at the Olympia stage in L.A live, mind blowing!

  • @Luke_Carroll
    @Luke_Carroll Рік тому +1

    My favourite bodybuilder, gotta be one of the most underrated physiques that gets nowhere near the credit it deserves

  • @dinocollins720
    @dinocollins720 Рік тому +1

    Another fantastic video! Thank you!

  • @kaleandoscope
    @kaleandoscope Рік тому +1

    1:55 Look at those hammies baby please on Jean! Wow.

  • @richbarsantichannelrichtv_p.t.

    No comment,talking about size Fux can hold the comparison but Dorian was absolutely more conditioned,dense, grainy. Every comment is out of place

  • @StreetLethalRacing
    @StreetLethalRacing Рік тому +1

    Gotta disagree. IMO the only professional back that even came close to Dorian’s was Troy Alves. Troy’s back was insane…

  • @vedeshrambarran9038
    @vedeshrambarran9038 Рік тому +1

    great video bro

  • @shredphreek
    @shredphreek Рік тому +3

    Fux's back was TAF..but yeah, no one touched Dorian in the conditioning department

  • @Ruth1T0ne
    @Ruth1T0ne Рік тому +3

    Big Lenny has a better back

  • @torus186
    @torus186 Рік тому

    If you look at the background set you can see the ones with Jean Pierre are bigger ie the photo size is slightly bigger, get them exactly the same as they are both standing on the same line and then check.

  • @peterodriguez5636
    @peterodriguez5636 Рік тому +1

    For Uncle JoE Weider why would he give it to him no more more was going to be made

  • @Wolfman17681
    @Wolfman17681 Рік тому +1

    He could of been called the overshadow

  • @jimbob9246
    @jimbob9246 Рік тому +1

    Let's get something straight.....Nooo, fuckin body had a more complete back, and rear double than Yates.....
    Noooo, fuckin body.

  • @AS.47
    @AS.47 Рік тому

    1:26 lmao just looking at the upper body JP's lat spread looks exactly like Ronnie's

  • @nickbritten8132
    @nickbritten8132 Рік тому +1

    4:00 - Jean is opening up whereas Dorian is hiding away when he poses.
    The big guy is coming right up with his twisting three quarters back shot.

  • @rickvonrockendale4300
    @rickvonrockendale4300 Рік тому

    The weird thing here is.... the left side of their back does not look like the right side of their back...
    Where many other bodybuilders are much more perfect looking

  • @tomass6292
    @tomass6292 Рік тому +1

    Apparently you don't see big lenny back

  • @giovannigiorgio3211
    @giovannigiorgio3211 Рік тому

    Jean was amazing for being such a tall guy. Can't imagine his food bill.

  • @MrVictoria69
    @MrVictoria69 10 місяців тому

    Arnold had the best back ever. Had the size but also had the separation and detail that 90's meathead era couldn't come close to

  • @ueb4631
    @ueb4631 Рік тому +2

    Still think he was better. Bigger, more 3d thickness and better symmetry. Condition goes to Dorian and judges might have given it to Dorian on that. Or hey Dorian won and then kept winning because Olympia Politics.

  • @Tain950
    @Tain950 3 місяці тому

    Man that Jean Pierre guy definitely had one of the best backs of all time. Yes I’d say it was right up there with Dorian which is pretty insane

  • @erniearambula3525
    @erniearambula3525 Рік тому +1

    Goes to show you bigger isn't always better.

  • @RM-306
    @RM-306 Рік тому +1

    As a borderline Dorianite I got scared for a second

  • @evanobrien7316
    @evanobrien7316 Рік тому +2

    Compare Dorian to mike franciose (the Arnold classic winner)

  • @Shadow-bs1iu
    @Shadow-bs1iu Рік тому

    That shot at 2:14 is just awesome for Dorian!

  • @TC10Football
    @TC10Football 11 місяців тому

    fux was mr olympia from the back and dave palumbo from the front

  • @josesphdobie2897
    @josesphdobie2897 Рік тому

    LOWER LATS LAT INSERTIONS WILL WIN EVERY TIME! but sadly that was only then not now in a time were lower lats and calves count for nothing.

  • @rdallas81
    @rdallas81 Рік тому

    At the end of the day, Bodybuilding is a for profit business.
    There is plenty of examples of favoritism edging out the competition.
    But this is not the case with Fux and Dori.

  • @carloscontreras3633
    @carloscontreras3633 Рік тому

    Will they ever make videos like this of Big Ramy?

  • @zByJimbo
    @zByJimbo Рік тому

    can u do guy cisternino best version vs fouad best version !!!

  • @joshtheflatearthjedi222
    @joshtheflatearthjedi222 Рік тому

    These two dudes have almost identical back in terms of shape and muscle insertion

  • @Kneto
    @Kneto Рік тому +2

    What do you say about Ronnys back? A lot of people say it's one of the best, but i hardly disagree. His back double is so unsympathetical it almost hurts.

    • @vojtechralis6075
      @vojtechralis6075 Рік тому +1

      It's gotta be one of the best. It was asymmetrical and quite watery from 2003+ but in his earlier years it was nuts, his 1998 back double biceps would probably beat both Dorians and Phils back double. His back lat was not as strong as his bdb.

    • @panchopuskas1
      @panchopuskas1 Рік тому +1

      Ronnie had a big back.....every muscle he had was big....and his back was bigger than Dorian's.....but.....Dorian's back was symmetrical like nobody else's.....each muscle almost exactly in its place and totally shredded......

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 Рік тому

      @@panchopuskas1 at no point was Ronnie's back the size of Yates' while as conditioned. He came pretty close to Yates level of conditioning at 2001 A.C but he was TINY.
      As Marx said in this very video, nobody was really as conditioned as Yates at the same size.

    • @juliohernandez3323
      @juliohernandez3323 Рік тому

      In the 260+ category Yates remain the standard when it comes to conditioning no question.

    • @anasabura3037
      @anasabura3037 Рік тому

      @@dj_m19 Ronnie and Dorian are the best ever and Dorian said on dave interview he said the only one who impressed me was Ron and he the only one when I see him I said wtf

  • @tommasocasali680
    @tommasocasali680 Рік тому

    I dont know, my opinion is that dorian conditioning is overrated.
    Ok in 93 96 and 95 maybe, he was very striated and with thin skin.
    But in 94 and 97 he wasnt so shredded, in the glutes he often lacks striations, also is lateral side of the quad is not that much separated.
    Jean pierre is less conditioned than dorian but non that much to justifly a similar difference of size.

  • @abdullahalbesher3279
    @abdullahalbesher3279 4 місяці тому

    You nailed it 👍

  • @bobbystillz222
    @bobbystillz222 Рік тому

    He definitely had a wider bigger back than Dorian! But as far as judging the graininess and details and symmetry Dorian has a better back. But I can definitely see him making an argument. It’s definitely not a wild statement

  • @bobjohnson1633
    @bobjohnson1633 Рік тому +1

    Dorian takes it all day. Better muscle separations and more shredded. Imagine if Dorian had better arms and chest.

  • @jonathangolden9299
    @jonathangolden9299 Рік тому

    Dorian’s dryness won him the back shot.

  • @davidmiii3161
    @davidmiii3161 Рік тому

    Extremely entertaining..fantastic

  • @Thedudeabides803
    @Thedudeabides803 Рік тому +1

    He has a better biceps too.

  • @patrickmurphy5842
    @patrickmurphy5842 Рік тому

    DO something on Mike Francois?! He really brought a huge conditioned package in the mid 90s. Back and legs ! oh hnag on...ive just found you already did it ...

  • @paulbunyan9436
    @paulbunyan9436 Рік тому +8

    Jean Pierre Fux is better. Dorian had no "Biceps," and that's what the pose is called.💯

    • @vojtechralis6075
      @vojtechralis6075 Рік тому +1

      1:02 you're delusional.

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 Рік тому

      "and that's what the pose is called." aka tell me you know nothing about bodybuilding without actually saying so.
      You don't even realize just how ridiculous your statement looks. You're literally embarrassing yourself. Stop it.

    • @musclebone7875
      @musclebone7875 Рік тому

      That's facts....Dorian had no biceps, but his size, conditioning and posing was on point.

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 Рік тому

      @imofftheleantho it kinda is when you actually know a thing or two regarding bodybuilding and its rules/criteria.
      Biceps, although important, PALE in comparison to the back and legs in the BDB. Saying that Fux wins the back double because of better biceps is downright foolish when you take into account everything else

  • @MikeD666
    @MikeD666 Рік тому +1

    Jean piere traps looked syntha suspect

  • @jameswilliams3252
    @jameswilliams3252 Рік тому

    How would you rather Joel stubs back against these two?

  • @jessedavis7572
    @jessedavis7572 Рік тому

    sweet comparison!!

  • @frankcastle2045
    @frankcastle2045 Рік тому +1

    Fux had a smaller waste witch gave him a bigger look I am a Yates fan but I do give the nod to fux them traps are crazy

  • @piotrkulpa8034
    @piotrkulpa8034 Місяць тому

    J P Fux was real monster, but with more size he lost nice shape he presented before he grow so much. Another guy with amazing back development was Roland Cziurlok, very underrated bodybuilder from that time.

  • @5.0_meatballmarinara
    @5.0_meatballmarinara Рік тому

    If the knee injuries didn’t happen that man was on his way. Blown and massive

  • @goldnarms435
    @goldnarms435 Рік тому

    This dude has a sick back. I would say Orville Burke had possibly the best back ever.

  • @myflesh10
    @myflesh10 Рік тому

    Damn Jean Pierre Fux was huge and had an amazing back!! But yeah Dorian had a better looking back, especially in 95-97 as well as the black & whites from 93

  • @IakovosSianoudis
    @IakovosSianoudis Рік тому +1

    I don't know about a better back, but he sure had a better gut...

    • @Gygsd
      @Gygsd Рік тому

      lol this guys gut rivaled phil's in his prime maybe even the bigger better gut

  • @jamesmac4447
    @jamesmac4447 Рік тому +1

    Jf better shoulders ,and arms .just never nailed the conditioning before he injured himself

  • @pramitbiswas8772
    @pramitbiswas8772 Рік тому +1

    Marko had the best back IMO

  • @bryanhurd9955
    @bryanhurd9955 Рік тому

    How were his calves

  • @mantisgardens1375
    @mantisgardens1375 Рік тому

    I think if you removed their lats and threw them on a scale yates's would weigh more... Gruesome but accurate technique...

  • @bluebyyou7504
    @bluebyyou7504 Рік тому

    I was never was much of Dorian fan. I was a Arnold guy...Steve Reeves....KAL Szkalak....

  • @HatianHurricane
    @HatianHurricane Рік тому

    Joel Stubbs had a better back than both of them and pretty much everyone else for that matter!

  • @samueldwarika1891
    @samueldwarika1891 Рік тому

    Bigger doesnt always mean better. And he was heavier than Yates too

  • @rdallas81
    @rdallas81 Рік тому +1

    You do a good job Marx.
    Keep these excellent videos coming.

  • @benliftin4awhile
    @benliftin4awhile Рік тому

    Imagine having a back that is the best back that ever backed

  • @chrisweidner4768
    @chrisweidner4768 Рік тому

    Thank you for this. Fox was humongous. Dorian is also humongous.

  • @AMGbrmmbrmm
    @AMGbrmmbrmm Рік тому +1

    Better arms 💪🏼

  • @Bench400at57
    @Bench400at57 Рік тому +1

    It’s sad seeing him back in 2017 at world gym in Palm Springs. I had to explain to my wife who he was and how phenomenal he used to be. I showed her the leg pictures. Now his knees are shot and he’s bent over when he walks. It was sad. Haven’t been back. Hope he got his knees replaced.

  • @mattym2954
    @mattym2954 Рік тому

    That guy did well. Dorian beat him period. I doubt anyone will have a better back throughout history. And yes I stand by that.

  • @timmkroger1125
    @timmkroger1125 Рік тому

    Without watching your video I can answer with 100% YESSSS

  • @whitebelt2905
    @whitebelt2905 Рік тому

    I’ve never been a fan of Yates’ rear double bicep. Shoulders and arms were weak. Upper traps weren’t impressive either

  • @YECBIB
    @YECBIB Рік тому

    Juiced muscles do nothing for me.

  • @josephohrablo4866
    @josephohrablo4866 Рік тому +3

    In a rear lat spread it’s comparable width wise and development in the lower traps and rhomboids . But not even close in hardness . And to the front it’s a massacre . No IFBB pro in history had lats like Dorian to the front (not even Ronnie ).

  • @EliasZ-yy3gc
    @EliasZ-yy3gc Рік тому +2

    I never liked Dorians body. Overrated, Very small arms, flat chest. Jean pier fux had a better overall body..

  • @ironwarrior73
    @ironwarrior73 Рік тому

    Fux had a good back but Yates had a great back. End of.

  • @jenthomas345
    @jenthomas345 Рік тому

    The guy have a similar back structure to dorian

  • @alexnikolas1991
    @alexnikolas1991 Рік тому

    Dorian clinches it for me on account of having a more complete lower back, otherwise it's neck and neck.

  • @holmofrur
    @holmofrur Рік тому

    nah don't think so

  • @MrDstormm
    @MrDstormm Рік тому +1

    Yates

  • @jaredgalloway3642
    @jaredgalloway3642 Рік тому

    No I'm sorry your wrong buddy the only back that is possibly better was Joel Stubb's... Fux had the same low hanging lats like Dorian but not as nearly as separated and detailed

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 Рік тому

      lol Stubb's back is overrated and has long been proven that he doesn't stand a chance against Yates, Ronnie and Phil in the back department ON STAGE. I'm not talking gym pictures that are highly edited and manipulated. I'm talking on stage pictures, on stage footage, on stage comparison where he is standing next to other bodybuilders.

  • @federicofigallo4661
    @federicofigallo4661 Рік тому

    Fux siempre tapado de agua ..el camino hacia las líneas olvidadas

  • @primosolo7559
    @primosolo7559 Рік тому

    Phil mops the floor with dorian

  • @holmofrur
    @holmofrur Рік тому

    from front also nah

  • @gimmyherbert8217
    @gimmyherbert8217 Рік тому

    Yates has mad cuts in mucsle

  • @bonjovi9285
    @bonjovi9285 Рік тому

    Dorian's back was the greatest due to his front lat spread.

  • @jonathangolden9299
    @jonathangolden9299 Рік тому

    I liked Nasder El Sonbaty.

  • @jaycobheufel782
    @jaycobheufel782 Рік тому +1

    Can u go to Spain..train with and interview dorian please.

    • @dududu5189
      @dududu5189 Рік тому +1

      After that can he go to Australia and cuddle a koala!

  • @albertgammon118
    @albertgammon118 Рік тому

    No

  • @aky19832001
    @aky19832001 Рік тому

    If he wa around now he'd beat big army and be Mr.O