I was worried after the M1 debut that I’d have to get a PC to work on excel and powerbi. Ive been using the same VM as you since and super impressed with how fast it’s still been working on large datasets. 📊
Glad to come across a finance guy like myself. I'm also considering a MacBook but have some reservations regarding key apps not working as well. So is Parallels a perfect solution to running Windows on Mac and are there any drawbacks to not running Windows natively? I'll be using Excel, PowerBI, Dynamics, SAP and the likes. Also do Windows apps on Parallels lack functionality, for example Alt shortcuts on Excel?
@@emadahmed7145 yeah, it's not a perfect solution. If you are going to be working in Window apps all day, I recommend just getting a PC instead of a Mac. Shortcuts are a little bit more difficult to use. For my use case of using Excel and Power BI using this only an hour or two a day, I think that it's worked out well for me minus the shortcut limitations
@@Applecompuser correct! it's just limited with things that I need to use for more advanced analysis like PowerQuery, VBA, and now their Python in Excel feature
@@gaurav1252 I used Quickbooks, Quicken, TValue, and Asset Keeper with Parallels. Quickbooks and Quicken have Mac versions but they don’t have the same features as the Windows versions. I also use Caseware IDEA but I have to use a Windows laptop because they don’t allow for virtualization due to licensing issues.
parallels is great but i got sick of the annual upgrade fee. i bought a refurbished LG laptop on ebay for $600 bucks to run windows on it and it's a lot less headache. plenty of great shape used windows laptops out there!
The standard version can be on the 1-Time Purchase, but then you won’t get all the updates. I don’t like the subscription service, but I have sucked it up. Adobe’s is a different matter. You need a mortgage to afford the latest versions.
They have student discount; if that helps. It’s not hard to get a student email for a few bucks. I enrolled in $50 online video editing course and was able to get student verification from that as well.
Windows and Visual Studio for ARM were a well timed gift for us users with a macbook M1/M2. I can only hope that others will follow swiftly (for soft and hardware). :)
The "MacHUB" killed me! 🤣 I use Parallels 19 on a Mac Studio and it runs really well and seamlessly. I prefer to run it in non-coherence mode because I like to keep OS interaction completely separate, it is just a preference. One huge caveat with Parallels 19 that perhaps you mention in another of your videos is that for version 19, it now ONLY installs Windows "Pro", unlike earlier versions where you can install the cheaper "Home" version. I bought an "OEM" version of Windows 11 Pro for $80 instead of paying the full $200 license since I do not intend to use it in any other machine. Anyhow, great information!
I have a M1 and had an old Intel Mac and I just used Windows for that exact reason. I used to use parallels but native Windows is just better imo. At least a better experience.
@1MinuteFlipDoc What exactly were the issues in parallels? For 98% of what folks do on a computer the VM is more than enough and runs great. I would hate to lug around two laptops.
I loved my 2012 MacBook Pro with Bootcamp. I still use it! What is holding me back from upgrading is the lack of nested virtualization (and bootcamp to some extent). Asahi Linux announced nested virtualization on M2's so there is hope that Apple will release it in their virtualization kit. As for Bootcamp type of functionality, I'm assuming that's in MIcrosoft's court.
parallels is great but i got sick of the annual upgrade fee. i bought a refurbished LG laptop on ebay for $600 bucks to run windows on it and it's a lot less headache. plenty of great shape used windows laptops out there!
A good alternative is running Windows on a separate machine using a hypervisor. I chose that route because I had some 24/7 workloads I wanted to run. A great internet connection is a prerequisite but that’s not too hard to come by in an urban setting.
Parallels is what we in ghe business call a type 2 hypervisor. In fact, to run a VM you cannot without a hypervisor involved. I too run hypervisors. I prefer Vsphere products, but there are indeed multiple options. The benefit of a type 1 hypervisor is also awesome which sounds like they may be what you could be doing. The downside with the setup is that you don't have access as easily on the go. Happy computing!
I am someone that has used VM's for may years. This iteration of windows deployments on a type 2 hypervisors is one of the best I've ever seen on a type 2. Hell, in generally really. I normally wouldn't even pay with there typical being free means of runnig VM's, but on a mac, this was done VERY well that even complete newbies would hwve zero issues wifh ninimal effort. I hand it to you parallels.
I have bought Parallels 18 standard 3 months ago, now they realized version 19. Would be nice to make some tests between version 18 and 19 if it's worth upgrading... Because upgrade also costs pretty penny, so would be nice to know if it's worth it
Saw a youtuber out in the wild recently setting up camera positions and filming themselves perform the same task over and over again until they think they got the right shot. Makes me question the naturality/spontaneity of any b-roll footage people include anymore. I'm just too introverted to set up a camera in public to record myself doing something normal while others are watching wondering as to my intentions.
So don't be a youtuber, keep watching. All the youtubers are usually nerds with very strange behaviours anyways... *Not you Alex*, you are totally normal person!
Not really considering Apple Silicon is just a customized ARM core like all other ARM core CPUs. It's not like Apple came up with the chip architecture, they just tweaked the ARM core they licensed like all other ARM licensees do.
i made the leap from PCs about a year back. I purchased a used M1 Mac Mini and was won over. I then purchased a 2012 Mac to use as a file server and then a mint condition i7 Macbook Pro 2015. My garage PC is a hackintosh and then despite all protestations, I purchased an iphone XS. Couldn't be happier.
so i need to get a Mac pro for overprice + get parallels subscription (sick!) + get windows license instead of just getting proper windows laptop? this logic....
Bro, relax. You don’t need to do anything. If you prefer windows computers, buy them, if you prefer apple computers buy them. This video was about being able to use windows on a mac. How complicated is that?
I would really go for Parallels but I realized it’s now a subscription model and that is something I really don’t want for something I wouldn’t even have relevant use for.
@@MultiMinors You confuse upDATEs with upGRADEs. I’ve never encountered a programme that didn’t offer updates (for free). Upgrades cost money, but that;s always the case.
I have a question, Alex: have you noticed any hit on the battery performance when you run parallels? As Windows 11 (or 10 for what matters) runs on a x86-64 architecture and parallels does that translation as far as I know. I believe that would be possible. However, it would be good to know from someone that had this experience.
As usual, best laptop for Windows is Mac. That was basically from Intel times. Now it's back again with ARM chips :) Hopefully they also will provide Boot Camp 2 or something for native ARM64 Windows.
Not "as usual". During Intel times, Macs were at least 50% overpriced compared to PC laptops with the same specs. It is only with ARM transition that Macs actually became price-competitive
Hard pass on MACs if you need CAD specific software (SolidWorks) or work with Power BI routinely. Same for Azure system administrators or accounting/finance jobs. Otherwise, MACs are fine for everything else.
@@АлексейГриднев-и7р important to remeber that they are only price competitive in certain countries, in countries like here in Brazil they are quite more expensive than a great Dell XPS with similar performance
I used to "professionally" run Windows, virtualised on 2010 dual core MBP via Parallels. Windows put into full screen mode with VS and swipe across and switch to MacOS. Some people thought we were mad. Our big boss hated it. We were Microsoft consultants, working for a Microsoft Gold Partner, selling bespoke Microsoft solutions to corporates... using Macs. Was funny when the bossman got a brand new kitted out Surface with that fulcrum hinge within a day of announcement, across the pond in the UK, showing it off and trying to persuade his dev team to take free laptops and couldn't get my teams boss to stop using his old little Macbook Air.
Video idea/request : Make a video with windows 11 development tests (not wsl) like java/android/npm/c++/C# big projects builds. Parallels with windows probably OK too. And compare speeds in windows with Windows Defender ON (default) and then fully OFF(turn off Realtime protection, Self Protection and everything else you find there). From my experience, results could be drastic sometimes. Especially in multicore/multiprocess scenarios. Note that for quick tests its easier to turn Defender off temporarily in settings, because if you want to add full exclusions you need to add EVERY dev-related path as "folder exclusion" AND "process exclusions" or Defender will still scan it and slow it down.
Being able to run more and more x86/x64 programs on W11 on an M1 with parallels is also pretty great. Been on the beta with W11 arm for a while and it has improved a lot this year.
People ask why bother with this??? I still have two 2015-era macbook pros that are used daily, and have never skipped a beat. Whereas my windows laptops/desktops at the office have historically been trashed after three or four years' use. My 13" mbp is my around the house laptop -- the battery has been screaming at me for years to service it, I've got to believe it's at 1500+ cycles, but I can still get an hour or two out of it on youtube or whatever. And the other is a fully loaded, bent in half 15" mbp beauty with a smashed screen that I bought used in 2016 for $400 lol. I've used it exclusively as a desktop for the past 8 years running Windows 10 on two external monitors, it still runs like a champ. I actually hate macOS for the most part, especially its monitor/window control, but Apple hardware and build quality can't be beat.
Parallels and hardware Rosetta translation is very impressive, the only unsolvable issue I found was that certain software I used that uses Intel NEON instructions didn't work (scientific visualisation stuff, mainly) Also the platform is reported as "ARM64" so certain developer tools will think that they need to build for ARM, when in fact they are running on what appears to them to be a native x64 machine. That can cause issues with some dev toolchains in my experience, not unsolvable but difficult to resolve. But for standard consumer programs it works extremely well.
First off I want to say I love your videos and the channel. Excellent stuff all around :) I bought a fully spec’d out M3 iMac for the home and it’s been wonderful. I installed Parallels without a hitch and am running a few older games that work perfectly. Once question I have is what do you recommend I use to capture the gameplay from Parallels? I’ve seen a lot of videos talk about screen recording but I haven’t found any way to record the audio and video within a specific window within Parallels. Any advice would be super appreciated.
Same here! I used to do windows in visual box Mac mini2 before I got the MacBook Pro M1 and Windows is always faster! The only bug, arch64 crash a lot of software but have parallels now and crossover! So powerful this Mac!
@@nico96gmail Up to now, only standalone app crashed because they are mostly compiled in x86 only, I hope with the time all apps will be x86 and arm64 compatible!
Great video hey i have a question do you have a video showing how to use parallel and windows on a external ssd drive with my mac book pro m2. i prefer not put it on my mac hard drive and just run it on a external drive to save space on the mac drive if possible Thanks for you Help
Thanks a lot for this video! I have been very hesitant and worried about switching to a macbook from my Windows laptop. Please keep making these videos to encourage transitioning to Macbooks without losing on performance from the various apps.
Agree except in my case as a heavy excel user here - tried again with a mbp for the last month, excel for mac is missing features and parallels windows excel is fine but keyboard shortcuts conflict with native mac ones, had to switch back the work machine to a windows laptop
This! If you use VMs or even RDP you can basically forget to use shortcuts as they are messed up by conflicting Mac os ones. Funny how no one seems to mention this
Also been using VMware Fusion on MBP since 2012. First an Air, then MBP Pro 2013, then 2018 Pro (Intel i9, 16GB but unfortunately the bad keyboard!) and just arrived an M5 Pro Max (48GB, 2TB) and will of course have to use Parallels. As a software developer, loved that I can backup my VMs to SSD and restore if needed. Also the MacOS is great for my photo and video editing (FCP, Davinic Resolve and Adobe products) so I get the best of both worlds. Glad to hear you are happy with Parallels. If Fusion ever catches up I might return so that I don't have pay for a subscription. Run these on a Caldigit hub with 2 monitors, BT keyboard so just one small cable into the MBP.
what really goats me is that you can't get a Parallels perpetual license that supports more than 8 gigs of ram & 4 CPU cores. you have to buy into a subscription to get more.
Not sure the excitement is warranted. You always had to pay for an upgrade to a new version, which happened on a yearly basis. Now they call it "subscription". In the end, it's basically the same thing. You can cancel at any time and just keep the version you have. So it's entirely different from, say, Adobe, where you lose access to everything once you cancel your subscription. Here in Europe, I pay €54.99 p.a. (they just raised it from €49.99 because... reasons). Sounds reasonable to me.
I saw with this update, they implemented allowing Linux VM's to use Rosetta 2. I'm very curious how that is now and plan on giving it a try here in the future. (unless the new Fedora Asahi Remix release takes care of everything I could ask for)
The only problem with Parallels is that there is no GPU driver for Windows 11 on Apple Silicon at this moment. I am looking forward to a solution. This would make Paralllels much more attractive.
yeah, it would also be great when all native mac apps take full advantage of the new silicon gpu too. sooner or later it will happen, but till then, we wait
This is a type 2 hypervisor. Those in general do not tend to have dedicated/isolated access to the hist GPU. For most folks needs this is completely fine. If you have a niche case then that can be different. Keeping in mind this isn't your standard windows 11 either btw. This is ARM version of windows. Folks wanting hard-core graphics tend to be better off likely with a type 1 and the regular desktop version. 90%+ of folks won't care and this is great. Macs don't play well with third party GPU's either or dedicated cards. So if you're heavy into that world macs aren't neccesarily great for many folks in general gor it.
@@kerrydaniels8460 that's even worse to me. I thought it emulating x64 version. Though sure enough I haven't issues yet with windows arm compatibility. It actually seems to be way way better than Rosetta. Slower than Rosetta yes, but much more compatible.
I personally haven't seen anything indicating improvements. VMWare fusion has a Tech Preview that supports DX11 so there's alternative hypervisor for gaming that's free but it looks like gaming improvements are being made through compatibility layers and wine using Apple's GPTk (a testing tool being used by the community to accomplish some DX12 gaming) and crossover.
I agree with your sentiment about VMware. (I was also a loyal VMware user, in fact, my company gives me a license for it). But lately I self pay for Parallels. It seems VMware has stopped trying.
@@syarifairlangga4608VMWare Fusion isn't free. It's a cost. They just allow you to pay for a license for each release, not a subscription like Parallels forces you in to.
By the way, you need to buy Parallels AND Windows 11... Also, I am wondering if all this "extra speed" comes from using Rosetta 2 or they reverse engineered this windows game conversion tool Apple launched, because although the M2 MAX chip is fast, it is not that faster than the new intels...
No offense, but you seem q bit lost. For one, this is windows 11 ARM. For two Windows has had x86 emulation for some time now built in so there is no reason they need to care about Rosetta. For 3, Apple did not come up with the gaming tool. They just took someone else's project from the folks on Linux that had been working on it and doing literally all the work with no help from apple and apple just added a few lines of code and it's a porting tool not even meant for consumers. Also, you have to kno2 how to measure performance. You don't just look at the CPU for that. There are several factors at play. For a laptop macs do major things like actually not require you to be plugged into the wall all the time due to poor battery life. Intel suck at that for their actual powerful CPU's that most folks do not even need or benefit from really.
I wouldn't recommend that at all nor do you need to folks. It is already fairly snappy out the box. You have to be trying to do too much or went cheap on the RAM if it isn't. For what 98%+ of users will do it works just about flawlessly and you should never allocate all your host's RAM and CPU to the VM as it does the opposite of helping.
THX :) i think the pc might have a slower ssd. btw which specs do you have on your mac? i am a .NET DEveloper since 2002 and I experienced the same when comparing pretty solid macs to more plastic feeling PC s (even the expensive XPS or lenovos)
@AZisk have you run into issues where windows software is only compiled for intel and won't run or runs so slowly it is unusable? That is what I was hearing when Parallels first came out... Have we gotten to the point where that is no longer an issue via Parallels or Windows ARM translation of intel software?
anything that still has x86 dependencies will still suffer the windows translation layer. however, if you’re on linux, then Parallels 19 now supports x86 translation via Rosetta, which is way better. might do a vid on this soon
Okay but the WOA version of Visual Studio 2022 still have limitations from what I know. For example, is QT fully supported? You can't compile a project from parallels as far as I know
I just bought an older macbook pro with an i9 processor and was thinking of going back to windows pc I think you just saved the day. I can just put this parallels on my Mac as I like the mac for design work but I like windows for tabbing and having multiple browser windows running.
You could consider VMWare Fusion as an alternative to Parallels. The problems he refers to in the video relate to the Apple Silicon version of VMWare, the Intel version works great.
Can you please compare parallels 19 to VMware fusion (it's free) for excel/vba/visual studio Probably parallels is faster but how much is the question, if it's only marginal then we can consider VMware fusion
I have a budget problem, cannot afford Parallels. Since I need Windows for MS Word and such software (no gaming at all), can UTM do the trick? Thank you!
Mac have always been thx to bootcamp the best PC to run windows, I was already impressed by vm ware or parallels , but they continue to improve it , nowadays it's really not useful to have a separate bootcamp partition... even for games with Sonoma coming next month or so...
Parallels is pretty good for running windows. Running linux vms isn't great because of the horrible touchpad scrolling issue they've had but refuse to fix. Their licensing also sucks because of price and because they only allow one install per license and refuse to listen to that issue (even though it is the most upvoted on their feedback forum). One of the issues with running Windows on ARM for development is that a lot of development still isn't supported. I've been doing a lot of Flutter development lately for example and it is not supported on Windows on ARM so I have to use another device to test and deploy Windows builds.
@@νικηφόροςκατακτητής Linux VMs are good too but the scrolling is extremely annoying but gets a lot better with a mouse. It is really just when using it as a laptop with the touchpad that it is an issue.
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Do you happen to know if there's still a way to run Windows apps in the MacOS environment, I feel like it used to run like this 10-15 years ago, wondering if there's a setting in Parallels or something, that would let it FEEL like I'm using a Mac app, instead of running it inside the Windows window. Cheers!
Question about parallelization. I am mostly a Mac user and 80% of my work is coding, maths and writing papers, my Mac is good for that (I got a 14” MacBook Pro base model, so 16gb ram 512 ssd). But there is a part of my work where I have to run CFD simulations in ANSYS and Solidworks. These take weeks to run so I offload them to my work pc that’s a beast (desktop worth more than 10k), but I need to have a way to run smaller simulations in my own pc prior to offloading the full ones. For this reason I have been using a windows laptop, but it’s becoming cumbersome as it is heavy and I don’t want to carry two laptops. I am thinking of upgrading my Mac to an M2 Max 64 GB one and run parallels to install ANSYS there (it is not available for Mac), and allocate 8 cores and 32-48GB to the VM (leaving basically something like a MacBook Air equivalent performance for the base which is more than enough most of the times. I am not gonna run AI training and ANSYS at the same time 😂). Do you think that allocating so many resources in the VM is worth it, or no matter how much I allocate it will still be very slow? My current windows laptop is 32 GB i9-8950h, so similar specs to what I’ll allocate to the VM. I really want to have one laptop instead of two but I am worried about how good it is going to be considering that it is going to be crazy expensive (the spec that I am thinking is like 4k).
It will probably be fine but you will have to try it out yourself first. Prob will have to buy, test and then return if unhappy because you have such a specific use case. Also, M3 max will be coming out in 2024 and be a 50% or more performance boost. It will have 12 performance cores (50% more than m2 pro and max) and will be 3nm. They are also increasing the base ram of all models.
I primarily work in Windows X86 so there is no use case for a Silicon Mac. I'll stick with my Surface Pro 9. I do use a 2017 MacBook Pro but that is for office productivity stuff exclusively. For people who do equal amounts of work in both Windows and MacOS, the Parallels option sounds like a good solution.
It should be mentioned that under virtualized win you cant use any usb drivers, that are not ment for an arm cpu. No old printers or devices like chip programmers, 3d printers etc... You will have better luck using services like Shadow with remote usb, where the driver runs on x86 hardware...
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I was worried after the M1 debut that I’d have to get a PC to work on excel and powerbi. Ive been using the same VM as you since and super impressed with how fast it’s still been working on large datasets. 📊
Glad to come across a finance guy like myself. I'm also considering a MacBook but have some reservations regarding key apps not working as well. So is Parallels a perfect solution to running Windows on Mac and are there any drawbacks to not running Windows natively? I'll be using Excel, PowerBI, Dynamics, SAP and the likes. Also do Windows apps on Parallels lack functionality, for example Alt shortcuts on Excel?
@@emadahmed7145 yeah, it's not a perfect solution. If you are going to be working in Window apps all day, I recommend just getting a PC instead of a Mac. Shortcuts are a little bit more difficult to use.
For my use case of using Excel and Power BI using this only an hour or two a day, I think that it's worked out well for me minus the shortcut limitations
You can run excel native on a Mac.
I've been running Excel on a Mac natively for 30 years now, In fact Microsoft released Excel on Mac before they did on Windows back in 1987.
@@Applecompuser correct! it's just limited with things that I need to use for more advanced analysis like PowerQuery, VBA, and now their Python in Excel feature
As a CPA, I use Parallels to run my accounting software on my M1 MBA. Each version works better and I am looking forward to trying version 19.
What is the name of that accounting software?
@@gaurav1252 I used Quickbooks, Quicken, TValue, and Asset Keeper with Parallels. Quickbooks and Quicken have Mac versions but they don’t have the same features as the Windows versions. I also use Caseware IDEA but I have to use a Windows laptop because they don’t allow for virtualization due to licensing issues.
Just buy a window laptop
parallels is great but i got sick of the annual upgrade fee. i bought a refurbished LG laptop on ebay for $600 bucks to run windows on it and it's a lot less headache. plenty of great shape used windows laptops out there!
@@chriswright8074 I have one but ultimately I want to use the Mac most of the time.
I hate that they switched to a subscription model years ago! A deal breaker for me!
Yeah for me too, just like Adobe with their ridiculous expensive Software
The standard version can be on the 1-Time Purchase, but then you won’t get all the updates. I don’t like the subscription service, but I have sucked it up.
Adobe’s is a different matter. You need a mortgage to afford the latest versions.
They have student discount; if that helps. It’s not hard to get a student email for a few bucks. I enrolled in $50 online video editing course and was able to get student verification from that as well.
I hate that too! But I'm pretty sure they hate I've switched to a cracked version.
Yes, I agree. A subscription model was what ,ade me go for a model which was a windows machine and an iPad as opposed to a Mac running parallels.
Windows and Visual Studio for ARM were a well timed gift for us users with a macbook M1/M2. I can only hope that others will follow swiftly (for soft and hardware). :)
The "MacHUB" killed me! 🤣 I use Parallels 19 on a Mac Studio and it runs really well and seamlessly. I prefer to run it in non-coherence mode because I like to keep OS interaction completely separate, it is just a preference. One huge caveat with Parallels 19 that perhaps you mention in another of your videos is that for version 19, it now ONLY installs Windows "Pro", unlike earlier versions where you can install the cheaper "Home" version. I bought an "OEM" version of Windows 11 Pro for $80 instead of paying the full $200 license since I do not intend to use it in any other machine. Anyhow, great information!
Hello I didn't think you could run a purchased windows license on more than one machines?
I have a M1 and had an old Intel Mac and I just used Windows for that exact reason. I used to use parallels but native Windows is just better imo. At least a better experience.
100%. i did the same thing (just ended up buying a used windows laptop instead of parallels VM on mac.)
Why do you feel native Windows is a better experience vs.running it in a VM?
@1MinuteFlipDoc What exactly were the issues in parallels? For 98% of what folks do on a computer the VM is more than enough and runs great. I would hate to lug around two laptops.
We LOVED this video, Alex! Great work and we are so glad you are enjoying Parallels Desktop!
I loved my 2012 MacBook Pro with Bootcamp. I still use it! What is holding me back from upgrading is the lack of nested virtualization (and bootcamp to some extent). Asahi Linux announced nested virtualization on M2's so there is hope that Apple will release it in their virtualization kit. As for Bootcamp type of functionality, I'm assuming that's in MIcrosoft's court.
Like torturing your self
parallels is great but i got sick of the annual upgrade fee. i bought a refurbished LG laptop on ebay for $600 bucks to run windows on it and it's a lot less headache. plenty of great shape used windows laptops out there!
Exactly
But doesn’t that contradict the point he’s making about having to carry around 2 laptops? Plus $600 would be a 6 year subscription, right?
A good alternative is running Windows on a separate machine using a hypervisor. I chose that route because I had some 24/7 workloads I wanted to run. A great internet connection is a prerequisite but that’s not too hard to come by in an urban setting.
Parallels is what we in ghe business call a type 2 hypervisor. In fact, to run a VM you cannot without a hypervisor involved. I too run hypervisors. I prefer Vsphere products, but there are indeed multiple options. The benefit of a type 1 hypervisor is also awesome which sounds like they may be what you could be doing. The downside with the setup is that you don't have access as easily on the go. Happy computing!
5:35 QEMU is completely free and allows you to run x86 Windows on ARM devices like the macbook. It might be harder to setup.
umm uses queu
it is really slooooow
I am someone that has used VM's for may years. This iteration of windows deployments on a type 2 hypervisors is one of the best I've ever seen on a type 2. Hell, in generally really. I normally wouldn't even pay with there typical being free means of runnig VM's, but on a mac, this was done VERY well that even complete newbies would hwve zero issues wifh ninimal effort.
I hand it to you parallels.
I have bought Parallels 18 standard 3 months ago, now they realized version 19. Would be nice to make some tests between version 18 and 19 if it's worth upgrading... Because upgrade also costs pretty penny, so would be nice to know if it's worth it
from what I’m hearing, it’s a subscription either way you go, is that right?
@LEINEHMARK well that’s the best news I’ve heard all day. Is there still a one-time fee you can pay for parallels then? Or just the older version?
@@stateportSound_wav nope. I bought it as classic standalone version.
@@DamirGrbic what version can I buy like that on m1 mac, with no subscription?
Saw a youtuber out in the wild recently setting up camera positions and filming themselves perform the same task over and over again until they think they got the right shot. Makes me question the naturality/spontaneity of any b-roll footage people include anymore. I'm just too introverted to set up a camera in public to record myself doing something normal while others are watching wondering as to my intentions.
So don't be a youtuber, keep watching. All the youtubers are usually nerds with very strange behaviours anyways... *Not you Alex*, you are totally normal person!
how dare you! 😆
@@AZisk No offense intended. Just an observation since the dude outside the coffee shop reminded me of me. 😛
@@jinparksoul He reminded me of Stephen Merchant - extras.fandom.com/wiki/Stephen_Merchant
@@AZisk Thats exactly who I though he looked like as well.
Imagine, running Native Windows on Apple Silicon, now that's mind blowing.
Not really considering Apple Silicon is just a customized ARM core like all other ARM core CPUs. It's not like Apple came up with the chip architecture, they just tweaked the ARM core they licensed like all other ARM licensees do.
i made the leap from PCs about a year back. I purchased a used M1 Mac Mini and was won over. I then purchased a 2012 Mac to use as a file server and then a mint condition i7 Macbook Pro 2015. My garage PC is a hackintosh and then despite all protestations, I purchased an iphone XS. Couldn't be happier.
so i need to get a Mac pro for overprice + get parallels subscription (sick!) + get windows license instead of just getting proper windows laptop? this logic....
Dont knock before you try. Read the comments and understand why many have abandoned PCs.
@@andyv8889 he's not talking about abandoning computers, but getting a windows laptop straightforward instead of doing some shenanigans.
Find a friendly Indian who will show you how to do all of that for free.
Bro, relax. You don’t need to do anything. If you prefer windows computers, buy them, if you prefer apple computers buy them. This video was about being able to use windows on a mac. How complicated is that?
The shocker is your ignorance
I would really go for Parallels but I realized it’s now a subscription model and that is something I really don’t want for something I wouldn’t even have relevant use for.
The standard edition is available for a 1 time buy.
@@DrMacintosh nope, you wont get any updates this way
@@MultiMinors If it's one years of updates, then this is pretty normal. If you get no updates after purchase then I'd say that's a complete joke.
@@MultiMinors Nobody said anything about getting updates. If you want updates and free upgrades to the new version, you get the subscription.
@@MultiMinors You confuse upDATEs with upGRADEs. I’ve never encountered a programme that didn’t offer updates (for free). Upgrades cost money, but that;s always the case.
I have a question, Alex: have you noticed any hit on the battery performance when you run parallels? As Windows 11 (or 10 for what matters) runs on a x86-64 architecture and parallels does that translation as far as I know. I believe that would be possible. However, it would be good to know from someone that had this experience.
As usual, best laptop for Windows is Mac. That was basically from Intel times. Now it's back again with ARM chips :)
Hopefully they also will provide Boot Camp 2 or something for native ARM64 Windows.
Except for the things that just won't run in an ARM environment.
@@brandonw1604 translation layer works pretty well. Not Rosetta 2 level, but still
Not "as usual". During Intel times, Macs were at least 50% overpriced compared to PC laptops with the same specs. It is only with ARM transition that Macs actually became price-competitive
Hard pass on MACs if you need CAD specific software (SolidWorks) or work with Power BI routinely. Same for Azure system administrators or accounting/finance jobs.
Otherwise, MACs are fine for everything else.
@@АлексейГриднев-и7р important to remeber that they are only price competitive in certain countries, in countries like here in Brazil they are quite more expensive than a great Dell XPS with similar performance
This guy is legit, spilling good advice like gold!
This video is the final verdict for me getting a mac thanks a lot 🎉
Glad I could help!
Sadly UTM can't even pass-through graphics as of now. So yea, very good summary including that Parallels has market dominance.
I used to "professionally" run Windows, virtualised on 2010 dual core MBP via Parallels. Windows put into full screen mode with VS and swipe across and switch to MacOS. Some people thought we were mad. Our big boss hated it. We were Microsoft consultants, working for a Microsoft Gold Partner, selling bespoke Microsoft solutions to corporates... using Macs. Was funny when the bossman got a brand new kitted out Surface with that fulcrum hinge within a day of announcement, across the pond in the UK, showing it off and trying to persuade his dev team to take free laptops and couldn't get my teams boss to stop using his old little Macbook Air.
In my experience, parallel does not support GNS3 to integrate VMs, like VMware Workstation Pro does.
Then there's me, running wx-widgets in visual studio, photoshop, and studio one on a 4GB RAM, 8th gen core i3 laptop, good times. 😁
Video idea/request : Make a video with windows 11 development tests (not wsl) like java/android/npm/c++/C# big projects builds. Parallels with windows probably OK too. And compare speeds in windows with Windows Defender ON (default) and then fully OFF(turn off Realtime protection, Self Protection and everything else you find there). From my experience, results could be drastic sometimes. Especially in multicore/multiprocess scenarios.
Note that for quick tests its easier to turn Defender off temporarily in settings, because if you want to add full exclusions you need to add EVERY dev-related path as "folder exclusion" AND "process exclusions" or Defender will still scan it and slow it down.
Being able to run more and more x86/x64 programs on W11 on an M1 with parallels is also pretty great. Been on the beta with W11 arm for a while and it has improved a lot this year.
How about the older stuff like older .NET Framework apps? I deal with a fair chunk of legacy code in my consultancy work.
I think it’s because of the speed of ssd on MacBook. Try to check on windows laptop and MacBook
how I wish I could run SQL Server in Parallels... this and the data tools are the only things holding it back.
People ask why bother with this??? I still have two 2015-era macbook pros that are used daily, and have never skipped a beat. Whereas my windows laptops/desktops at the office have historically been trashed after three or four years' use. My 13" mbp is my around the house laptop -- the battery has been screaming at me for years to service it, I've got to believe it's at 1500+ cycles, but I can still get an hour or two out of it on youtube or whatever. And the other is a fully loaded, bent in half 15" mbp beauty with a smashed screen that I bought used in 2016 for $400 lol. I've used it exclusively as a desktop for the past 8 years running Windows 10 on two external monitors, it still runs like a champ. I actually hate macOS for the most part, especially its monitor/window control, but Apple hardware and build quality can't be beat.
Parallels and hardware Rosetta translation is very impressive, the only unsolvable issue I found was that certain software I used that uses Intel NEON instructions didn't work (scientific visualisation stuff, mainly)
Also the platform is reported as "ARM64" so certain developer tools will think that they need to build for ARM, when in fact they are running on what appears to them to be a native x64 machine. That can cause issues with some dev toolchains in my experience, not unsolvable but difficult to resolve.
But for standard consumer programs it works extremely well.
VMWare now works pretty good and supports opengl and directx. Could you consider making a video about it please
First off I want to say I love your videos and the channel. Excellent stuff all around :)
I bought a fully spec’d out M3 iMac for the home and it’s been wonderful. I installed Parallels without a hitch and am running a few older games that work perfectly. Once question I have is what do you recommend I use to capture the gameplay from Parallels? I’ve seen a lot of videos talk about screen recording but I haven’t found any way to record the audio and video within a specific window within Parallels. Any advice would be super appreciated.
Thank You Alex for this video 💐
Same here! I used to do windows in visual box Mac mini2 before I got the MacBook Pro M1 and Windows is always faster! The only bug, arch64 crash a lot of software but have parallels now and crossover! So powerful this Mac!
Yes, window software on arm crashes a lot. And it’s not getting better. I guess Microsoft and software developers aren’t focusing on arm platforms
@@nico96gmail Up to now, only standalone app crashed because they are mostly compiled in x86 only, I hope with the time all apps will be x86 and arm64 compatible!
Great video hey i have a question do you have a video showing how to use parallel and windows on a external ssd drive with my mac book pro m2. i prefer not put it on my mac hard drive and just run it on a external drive to save space on the mac drive if possible Thanks for you Help
Aw men you are in DC! Awesome! I used to work near the Tia Pepa store! Awesome content!
Thanks a lot for this video! I have been very hesitant and worried about switching to a macbook from my Windows laptop. Please keep making these videos to encourage transitioning to Macbooks without losing on performance from the various apps.
Agree except in my case as a heavy excel user here - tried again with a mbp for the last month, excel for mac is missing features and parallels windows excel is fine but keyboard shortcuts conflict with native mac ones, had to switch back the work machine to a windows laptop
This! If you use VMs or even RDP you can basically forget to use shortcuts as they are messed up by conflicting Mac os ones. Funny how no one seems to mention this
Unfortunately the new ARM chips do not run SQL server software within the virtual windows
Would be cool to see alternatives to parallels and see how much is the difference between parallels and for example UTM
The creaking, yes! Thank you for speaking out!
Also been using VMware Fusion on MBP since 2012. First an Air, then MBP Pro 2013, then 2018 Pro (Intel i9, 16GB but unfortunately the bad keyboard!) and just arrived an M5 Pro Max (48GB, 2TB) and will of course have to use Parallels. As a software developer, loved that I can backup my VMs to SSD and restore if needed. Also the MacOS is great for my photo and video editing (FCP, Davinic Resolve and Adobe products) so I get the best of both worlds. Glad to hear you are happy with Parallels. If Fusion ever catches up I might return so that I don't have pay for a subscription. Run these on a Caldigit hub with 2 monitors, BT keyboard so just one small cable into the MBP.
what really goats me is that you can't get a Parallels perpetual license that supports more than 8 gigs of ram & 4 CPU cores. you have to buy into a subscription to get more.
Thought it was all subscription now. I can get to 64GB for vms on my 64GB laptop
Oh man, annual subscription
yeah, only downside
@@AZiskisn't there a standalone purchase anymore?
@@АлексейГриднев-и7р 100$/year approx. Huge con for me...
@@AZisk Yep, a big one for me :/ ... @Parallels ... if your read this ! ;)
Thanks for your interesting channel anyway ! :)
Not sure the excitement is warranted. You always had to pay for an upgrade to a new version, which happened on a yearly basis. Now they call it "subscription". In the end, it's basically the same thing. You can cancel at any time and just keep the version you have. So it's entirely different from, say, Adobe, where you lose access to everything once you cancel your subscription. Here in Europe, I pay €54.99 p.a. (they just raised it from €49.99 because... reasons). Sounds reasonable to me.
Those old macbooks pros 2013 are known to kill the GPU. Very expensive to fix and the solution is to kill the extra GPU for the intel internal one.
it's the 2011, not the 2013 ones.
I use Paralles since Version 2. I love it, too. Thank you for sharing this video.
How much have you paid for it since you began?? 🥴 Greedy crap
I saw with this update, they implemented allowing Linux VM's to use Rosetta 2. I'm very curious how that is now and plan on giving it a try here in the future. (unless the new Fedora Asahi Remix release takes care of everything I could ask for)
yes, this looks promising
Update us! :)
My issue is that there is no arm MSSQL at this moment.
The only problem with Parallels is that there is no GPU driver for Windows 11 on Apple Silicon at this moment. I am looking forward to a solution. This would make Paralllels much more attractive.
yeah, it would also be great when all native mac apps take full advantage of the new silicon gpu too. sooner or later it will happen, but till then, we wait
What the F? It really doesn't have those and yet it costs that much? In that case I'll keep using utm if needed.
This is a type 2 hypervisor. Those in general do not tend to have dedicated/isolated access to the hist GPU. For most folks needs this is completely fine. If you have a niche case then that can be different. Keeping in mind this isn't your standard windows 11 either btw. This is ARM version of windows. Folks wanting hard-core graphics tend to be better off likely with a type 1 and the regular desktop version.
90%+ of folks won't care and this is great. Macs don't play well with third party GPU's either or dedicated cards. So if you're heavy into that world macs aren't neccesarily great for many folks in general gor it.
@@kerrydaniels8460 that's even worse to me. I thought it emulating x64 version. Though sure enough I haven't issues yet with windows arm compatibility. It actually seems to be way way better than Rosetta. Slower than Rosetta yes, but much more compatible.
@@jothainyeah this at least UTM can run X86 windows.
With parallels 19 and macOS Sonoma will gaming be better on windows or just the same as parallels 18?
I personally haven't seen anything indicating improvements. VMWare fusion has a Tech Preview that supports DX11 so there's alternative hypervisor for gaming that's free but it looks like gaming improvements are being made through compatibility layers and wine using Apple's GPTk (a testing tool being used by the community to accomplish some DX12 gaming) and crossover.
I agree with your sentiment about VMware. (I was also a loyal VMware user, in fact, my company gives me a license for it). But lately I self pay for Parallels. It seems VMware has stopped trying.
They have less developer since its free
@@syarifairlangga4608VMWare Fusion isn't free. It's a cost. They just allow you to pay for a license for each release, not a subscription like Parallels forces you in to.
But is there a Hypervisor available in the virtualized Windows 11?
What does the red t shirt guy says at 0:12 ? "is that a camera"?
So when windows on m native???????
I hope we can use VM programs like BlueStacks in parallels soon
By the way, you need to buy Parallels AND Windows 11... Also, I am wondering if all this "extra speed" comes from using Rosetta 2 or they reverse engineered this windows game conversion tool Apple launched, because although the M2 MAX chip is fast, it is not that faster than the new intels...
this is using windows for ARM, BUT Parallels 19 has x86 library support for Linux using Rosetta. Haven’t tried that yet, but looking interesting
Do you have to pay for Windows on ARM yet?
Though Windows 11 for X86 is an extra cost, you cannot use that on a Mac.
@@andyH_England Excellent point. I do not know.
No offense, but you seem q bit lost. For one, this is windows 11 ARM. For two Windows has had x86 emulation for some time now built in so there is no reason they need to care about Rosetta. For 3, Apple did not come up with the gaming tool. They just took someone else's project from the folks on Linux that had been working on it and doing literally all the work with no help from apple and apple just added a few lines of code and it's a porting tool not even meant for consumers.
Also, you have to kno2 how to measure performance. You don't just look at the CPU for that. There are several factors at play. For a laptop macs do major things like actually not require you to be plugged into the wall all the time due to poor battery life. Intel suck at that for their actual powerful CPU's that most folks do not even need or benefit from really.
@@kerrydaniels8460 none taken, I love to learn. Keep it coming!
What about vmware fusion?
thanks for the video
Great video!
Unfortunately not all visual studio project types can run under visual studio arm64
SSDT is unsupported 😢
This is also my concern. VS for arm and for Mac isn’t the same fully as it is on PC’s
You can increase the amount of virtual cpus and ram in parallels to the amount your mac has and it'll run windows at its best performance
You do need to leave some RAM for MacOS, otherwise it will start using swap which will degrade performance.
I wouldn't recommend that at all nor do you need to folks. It is already fairly snappy out the box. You have to be trying to do too much or went cheap on the RAM if it isn't. For what 98%+ of users will do it works just about flawlessly and you should never allocate all your host's RAM and CPU to the VM as it does the opposite of helping.
THX :) i think the pc might have a slower ssd. btw which specs do you have on your mac? i am a .NET DEveloper since 2002 and I experienced the same when comparing pretty solid macs to more plastic feeling PC s (even the expensive XPS or lenovos)
Since we have an ARM Windows 11, I ask myself why Apple doesn't make it possible to install thru BootCamp as we usually did in Intel Macs?
It's on windows not apple to do that.
I’ve seen this happening too in windows virtualized in Linux.
Hey, does your parallels work with Windows 11 x86 or is it ARM version?
@AZisk have you run into issues where windows software is only compiled for intel and won't run or runs so slowly it is unusable? That is what I was hearing when Parallels first came out... Have we gotten to the point where that is no longer an issue via Parallels or Windows ARM translation of intel software?
anything that still has x86 dependencies will still suffer the windows translation layer. however, if you’re on linux, then Parallels 19 now supports x86 translation via Rosetta, which is way better. might do a vid on this soon
@@AZisk That would be great to see what your experience has been (benchmarks?) and what you have found still even needs the translation.
is it still a huge battery hog? on one of my machines u could see the battery drain
Microsoft needs to build RSAT for Windows ARM. Parallels is awesome!
You are testing it on an arm version?
Actually like Parallels.. just a bit pricey if not using Windows on a regular basis
Okay but the WOA version of Visual Studio 2022 still have limitations from what I know. For example, is QT fully supported? You can't compile a project from parallels as far as I know
So is it still the case that x86-84 Windows versions cannot run on Apple Silicon Macs?
I just bought an older macbook pro with an i9 processor and was thinking of going back to windows pc I think you just saved the day. I can just put this parallels on my Mac as I like the mac for design work but I like windows for tabbing and having multiple browser windows running.
You could consider VMWare Fusion as an alternative to Parallels. The problems he refers to in the video relate to the Apple Silicon version of VMWare, the Intel version works great.
What are the specs of daily driver Mac?
VM ware is now free and it is a good alternative. But parallels performance seems to be better
That third person POV at the beginning of the video got me thinking it was a GTA 5 clip haha
How’s gaming?
Can you please compare parallels 19 to VMware fusion (it's free) for excel/vba/visual studio
Probably parallels is faster but how much is the question, if it's only marginal then we can consider VMware fusion
I have a budget problem, cannot afford Parallels. Since I need Windows for MS Word and such software (no gaming at all), can UTM do the trick? Thank you!
I wanted parallels pro one time purchase but it’s subscription only. They lost a sale right there
The price is worth it. You get what you pay for and what they're charging is completely fine.
I have Parallels 18. Do you think the performance is better than 18v?
I cant imagine who would carry two machines unless one is a traveling tech.
Mac have always been thx to bootcamp the best PC to run windows, I was already impressed by vm ware or parallels , but they continue to improve it , nowadays it's really not useful to have a separate bootcamp partition... even for games with Sonoma coming next month or so...
I brought a new M1 and found out that bootcamp isn't supported any more so I sold it and I've gone back to using my old 2017 iMac
Does the parallel already include the Windows11 software or is this purchased separately?
Includes a non activated copy
Bro, please make a video on --how to use any app in full screen , overlapping the notch bar (basically in macbook air m2 and upgraded line up models)
Parallels is pretty good for running windows. Running linux vms isn't great because of the horrible touchpad scrolling issue they've had but refuse to fix. Their licensing also sucks because of price and because they only allow one install per license and refuse to listen to that issue (even though it is the most upvoted on their feedback forum).
One of the issues with running Windows on ARM for development is that a lot of development still isn't supported. I've been doing a lot of Flutter development lately for example and it is not supported on Windows on ARM so I have to use another device to test and deploy Windows builds.
So this is only recommended for running windows but not linux?
@@νικηφόροςκατακτητής Linux VMs are good too but the scrolling is extremely annoying but gets a lot better with a mouse. It is really just when using it as a laptop with the touchpad that it is an issue.
@@Watchandlearn91 yep, I am checking Parallels Desktop 19 with Ubuntu x86_64 and I noticed that, too...
Hi Alex, hope this message finds you well, I’m looking for a recommendation for wireless headsets that you reviewed a while ago and you interlaced it within your video. And by the way, great very informative. Can you point me to the wireless earbuds that you can use one year at a timeto extend battery life? Thank you again all the best Milton.
Do you happen to know if there's still a way to run Windows apps in the MacOS environment, I feel like it used to run like this 10-15 years ago, wondering if there's a setting in Parallels or something, that would let it FEEL like I'm using a Mac app, instead of running it inside the Windows window. Cheers!
Question about parallelization. I am mostly a Mac user and 80% of my work is coding, maths and writing papers, my Mac is good for that (I got a 14” MacBook Pro base model, so 16gb ram 512 ssd). But there is a part of my work where I have to run CFD simulations in ANSYS and Solidworks. These take weeks to run so I offload them to my work pc that’s a beast (desktop worth more than 10k), but I need to have a way to run smaller simulations in my own pc prior to offloading the full ones. For this reason I have been using a windows laptop, but it’s becoming cumbersome as it is heavy and I don’t want to carry two laptops.
I am thinking of upgrading my Mac to an M2 Max 64 GB one and run parallels to install ANSYS there (it is not available for Mac), and allocate 8 cores and 32-48GB to the VM (leaving basically something like a MacBook Air equivalent performance for the base which is more than enough most of the times. I am not gonna run AI training and ANSYS at the same time 😂).
Do you think that allocating so many resources in the VM is worth it, or no matter how much I allocate it will still be very slow?
My current windows laptop is 32 GB i9-8950h, so similar specs to what I’ll allocate to the VM.
I really want to have one laptop instead of two but I am worried about how good it is going to be considering that it is going to be crazy expensive (the spec that I am thinking is like 4k).
It will probably be fine but you will have to try it out yourself first. Prob will have to buy, test and then return if unhappy because you have such a specific use case. Also, M3 max will be coming out in 2024 and be a 50% or more performance boost. It will have 12 performance cores (50% more than m2 pro and max) and will be 3nm. They are also increasing the base ram of all models.
I'm not sure if IIS usage issue is resolved on Windows ARM version tho.. Such a let down for me to run some programs on Mac. 😔
I primarily work in Windows X86 so there is no use case for a Silicon Mac. I'll stick with my Surface Pro 9. I do use a 2017 MacBook Pro but that is for office productivity stuff exclusively. For people who do equal amounts of work in both Windows and MacOS, the Parallels option sounds like a good solution.
I've been using Parallels since version 8. I love it so much.
do you recommend if i buy the one time purchase or subscription?
Just wondering will the heavy software like solidwork run faster on VM
Can I use Parallels on a MacBook Air with the same effectiveness and efficiency?
For security issues (pentest mode), its better to isolate the VM? With the isolate mode, we cant copy and paste into the VM.
security and usability are always at war :)
It should be mentioned that under virtualized win you cant use any usb drivers, that are not ment for an arm cpu. No old printers or devices like chip programmers, 3d printers etc... You will have better luck using services like Shadow with remote usb, where the driver runs on x86 hardware...
Do I have to buy and install windows 11 on Parallels or it comes with it?