dieseJL..... as for your Cummins power (sadly they didn't pick Dertoit Diesel for this model).... it's 504 ci, which was a smaller industrial version of the "triple nickel" (555 ci). The 504 in your 101F was factory rated at 178 hp.
The engine in those was a 504, about 185 hp, and notoriously cold blooded. The one we had, if the sun went behind a cloud, you got the starting fluid out. They had the best hp to yard in the industry. Scare the crap out of you, when they rock down on their nose. Over all a good little machine.
I nose dropped a full loaded 621 b closed in cab scraper off a 20 foot hill side and nearly flipped it on it's side, I craped my pants 3 times once in the scraper and twice more just thinking about it
I don't know how you guys work on these old rusty, dirty, machines full of vermin, spiders, wasps and bird nests, broken bolts, holes in exhaust manifolds...and all that other stuff. !Laughing! GOOD JOB!! Fun, Fun, Fun, watching!! Thanks for posting!
Well I guess we all had to start somewhere and learn somehow but I give the starter two or three thumbs up it was the star of the show now that you got it running start saving for a starter I really love to hear that old time running again thank you guys for taking the time to post this keep them coming
@Kevin Davis……..I definitely agree, the ether was a good idea but if they would have just thought of that before grinding the starter to a smoking cinder …..oh well, still gave a thumbs up. neat to hear the old beast run.
My Granddad started a gravel pit with a 1960 cat crawler loader.It never failed to fire.Even if it sat a year or more.Battery in plunge it she fired.The old machines were beast
Good way to burn a starter up, too. It needs a break every 15, or so seconds, if not a little shorter time. Turning that size engine, like that, puts a lot of stress on a starter.
My Dad had a model D scraper many years ago without the elevator and it was the model without a steering wheel. It just had a toggle switch that you moved left or right. I was maybe 7-8 years old at that time. It was his first motorscraper.
You guys are funny =) First of all, you had to check the water in the cooling system, then check the fuel filters, pump fuel, then check the air filters (you checked the engine oil, well done) and only after all these procedures try to start the engine =)
Its amazing the amount to large equipment just abandoned in forests, fields... golf courses just sitting there for years, for whatever reason. Seems the me that if a company/owner has that much money they can just walk away from a machine they invested in, they are charging too much money to do the job in the first place.
I believe that’s a V-555 with 380hp and 780fpt . They were used in boats and commercial grade vehicles back in the 70’s and 80’s that’s about when Cummins bought out Onan company ( generators ) .
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Ooh, I noticed that you trapped the battery terminals on the battery that didn't have the vice grips on. Which is a big no no, as it breaks the seal around the terminals which let's it the sulphuric acid onto the terminals causing a build up of corrosion on your terminals. This causing a bad connection leading to bad starting eventually. Try opening up the terminal with a small spanner or a large flat bladed screwdriver. 😊
It’s called a self loading scraper. It’s a little finish scraper That picks up dirt or base winrows from a motor grader when he’s making grade and moves materials were they want it either to a stock pile or a low area making fine grade in streets .looks like a 903 Cummins in there.
As best I recall, these had a 903 Cummins... That is 903 CI! Yes, the steering took some getting used to... you moved the wheel in the direction you wanted to turn and held it there until you were as 'sharp' as wanted, then released it... to straighten out you turned the wheel the Opposite direction until you were straight... In other words, the steering wheel just worked a standard hyd valve, NOT an orbital valve... The Other thing about these was that exhaust blowing directly onto the cutting edge... Since they were primarily for finishing (I worked with a blade operator picking-up windrows and filling in any low spots!), that exhaust would blow the powdery dust/dirt all Over!! :)
@@lewiemcneely9143.... Hi Lewie!! Sorry I haven't been in touch.... lots to do and time seems to be going by faster than I want it to. lol Hope you've been keeping Well, and doing ok... yes?
@@Romans--bo7br HEY, Pal and yes, all is as well as it gets in an old folks home but better than it ought to be. Hope you're doing fine and hopping around with great bursts of energy. I ooze long in a wobbling state but nothing new there and time is SCREECHING by. A week is a BLINK, if that. Don't be a stranger. My email is on my contact page. Till then, God Be With You!
@@lewiemcneely9143.... Great to hear from you again, Lewie! I got your email address... will email you asap.... just been really busy.. lots of projects to keep me occupied... especially the "honey do's"...seem to be never ending. lol Just kidding.. I get to do lots of my own projects, as well. I'm Blessed!! Will email ya asap, this week.. K? Lord Bless & Protect ya, til then.
Oh yeah, she'll run! I'm just glad it wasn't the Electric Wabco. Those electric ones are pretty much junk and really a pain to operate. My boss's son had two of them back in the late 80's. Toggle switch steering lol.
I cut up a Wabco , diesel electric scrapper. Electric motors on chain. Electric steering. 4-71 Detroit. Was in very pore condition. 4-71 went to sawmill
I thought the same the triple 5 your reference to. My opinion is this engine is an industrial version of those smaller V8s the little brother to the 903.
If a diesel has no glow plugs, or other starting aids and it is blowing vapor out the exhaust when it turns over, more than likely, a shot of either will start it. I don't like to use it, but we do what we have to do, sometimes. If an engine has glow plugs, it is dangerous to use it, though.
Willie got on his first Electric C pull and got back off the mec RED said what's the matter Willie said I can't run that it ain't got no steering wheel
Hey dude, I have a question. I also have JL Ecodiesel and was wondering do you use the Rotopax for fuel storage? If so, any difficulty inserting the nozzle into the tank? I’m using the red pax but it’s got diesel in it. Thanks
Exactly..Caning the guts out of the starter motor.. wtf for .. just a whiff of ether .. and that’s all it took.. see so many UA-camrs doing the same thing ..
The 504s where good engs, Most of the time. But the v555s like the blow head gaskets like it was their job! Then the big dog v903, a dog at that. But CHEAP HP and pretty good so I'm told on fuel. Parts no so much.
Over here in Europe they add ethanol and some other bio shit things to diesel that binds with water. I can guarantee you, if your tank isn't completely filled up, condensation will form in the tank and bacteria start to grow on the bottom. After a year, there's so many sludge from the bactaria in the fuel system that it gets completely clogged up, such a pain. You're very lucky over there to still have some real diesel at the pumps :)
@@tuxer88 yes, I had to have a tank boiled out on a used truck I bought while staying at my home in Bulgaria a few years back. I had never heard of putting ethanol in diesel fuel before. Willie Nelson created a biodiesel some 20 or more years ago. If you let that sit more than 3 months algae would start to grow but it was made from sea algae. Straight diesel fuel though will still be fine decades later as long as it's kept clean.
Finally ... a video of heavy equipment really left dormant for years .Tired of watching videos of equipment that has not run for a week only but claimed to be years.
Yep left all the rats nest in the air cleaner to get sucked in to the engine should have taken time to pull the filter out and cleaned it might have started better and no lube in the top of the engine
Bom dia! Pra mim é uma honra viu prestigiar seu trabalho, vamos sempre juntos somar e fortalecer nossos objetivos, Conto com você, eu já estou por aqui
If something that much that cost doesn't start after that short of period of time then you've waste your money I seen vehicles sit longer than that and still start
come on, Google it, watch UA-cam, Im actually pissed I'm ASE heavy certified when I get a road call I never get that lucky with a starter or batteries, all that cranking all they had to was just a whiff of either it and it would of went, those old Cummins have low horsepower and low compression, any heavy mechanic would tell you, low compression equals low heat build up, in cold Temps the starter even that mighty one, it just cannot spin the motor fast enough to create the heat needed for combustion hence the whiff.😊
@@dieseJL when I took I.u.o.e. The scrapers were military surplus. On the front there was a huge counter balance Thus when on heavy grade you could turn fully to the right. And would not tip or roll down the birm The scrapers were much larger. But around the same age
@@dieseJL and we didn’t have cool tech like depth finders and buttons. All shifts gears clutch and levers. No air conditioning. Some didn’t even have windows on the bulldozers. And I had to do everything by eye. I front of my instructors to pass. No paying anybody of or buying a cheat sheet like a college business class
@@dieseJL a cap on the oil of my scraper would have been nice. Or a day after rain. For the dozer to have mud instead of dust would have had been appreciated
Make sure you check out parts two and three!!
You are giving me the fever to get mine going.
dieseJL..... as for your Cummins power (sadly they didn't pick Dertoit Diesel for this model).... it's 504 ci, which was a smaller industrial version of the "triple nickel" (555 ci). The 504 in your 101F was factory rated at 178 hp.
Quello e uno scraper se non erro
@@Romans--bo7br Good the
@@Romans--bo7br 900for
I bought one new in 1980. Ran it over 20000 hours dug several hundred ponds with it. Great machine. 11 yd. 504 Cummins.
As long as it’s not a 470; they were junk. Versatile used that engine in the 145 4 wheel drive
The engine in those was a 504, about 185 hp, and notoriously cold blooded. The one we had, if the sun went behind a cloud, you got the starting fluid out. They had the best hp to yard in the industry. Scare the crap out of you, when they rock down on their nose. Over all a good little machine.
I nose dropped a full loaded 621 b closed in cab scraper off a 20 foot hill side and nearly flipped it on it's side, I craped my pants 3 times once in the scraper and twice more just thinking about it
Grandma use to say there's nothing sexier than a shirtless man cat skinning the side of a hill. I just said ok grandma.
I don't know how you guys work on these old rusty, dirty, machines full of vermin, spiders, wasps and bird nests, broken bolts, holes in exhaust manifolds...and all that other stuff. !Laughing! GOOD JOB!! Fun, Fun, Fun, watching!! Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching!!
Good to see the 101 running used to be an engineer and done repairs and service work on wabcos back in 1970s in UK 👍👍engine is Cummins V504
Awesome!
Well I guess we all had to start somewhere and learn somehow but I give the starter two or three thumbs up it was the star of the show now that you got it running start saving for a starter I really love to hear that old time running again thank you guys for taking the time to post this keep them coming
I’ll pat the starter on the back for you 🤣🤣
@Kevin Davis……..I definitely agree, the ether was a good idea but if they would have just thought of that before grinding the starter to a smoking cinder …..oh well, still gave a thumbs up. neat to hear the old beast run.
I owned one for 15 years the motor is a 504 Cummins good motor 👍👍
Dam you are so lucky to have cool old things like that
My Granddad started a gravel pit with a 1960 cat crawler loader.It never failed to fire.Even if it sat a year or more.Battery in plunge it she fired.The old machines were beast
I ran White Frieghtliners while working with the CNR railway back in the 70' That engine looks and sounds like a Cummins 903 that I operated then.
Those got to be the best batteries I've ever heard of. I've never seen a battery turning engine over that long and that strong and not wear out
the car is hooked to the batteries.
Good way to burn a starter up, too. It needs a break every 15, or so seconds, if not a little shorter time. Turning that size engine, like that, puts a lot of stress on a starter.
My Dad had a model D scraper many years ago without the elevator and it was the model without a steering wheel. It just had a toggle switch that you moved left or right. I was maybe 7-8 years old at that time. It was his first motorscraper.
Amazingly enough we have one of those too. If you look in the other video you might be able to see it!
Tournapull. Good old R.G.
Lol
AWESOME!!! VIDEO!!! Love To See Old Dirt Movers Come Back To LIFE!!!💯👍🏻💯👍🏻💯👍🏻❤️
You guys are funny =) First of all, you had to check the water in the cooling system, then check the fuel filters, pump fuel, then check the air filters (you checked the engine oil, well done) and only after all these procedures try to start the engine =)
Don't thank I would want them working on my equipment.
That Starter was the MVP and Goat today!!!!
Its amazing the amount to large equipment just abandoned in forests, fields... golf courses just sitting there for years, for whatever reason. Seems the me that if a company/owner has that much money they can just walk away from a machine they invested in, they are charging too much money to do the job in the first place.
I believe that’s a V-555 with 380hp and 780fpt . They were used in boats and commercial grade vehicles back in the 70’s and 80’s that’s about when Cummins bought out Onan company ( generators ) .
Lol 👌😂👍great job guys! It does belongs in a museum!🤣
Oldie but a goody beautiful ol scraper
parabéns pelo conteúdo , muito bom pois mostra um vídeo real com todos os imprevistos que normalmente acontece numa situação dessa ,ganhou um inscrito . 👏👏👏 Brazil.
Amazing Starting Old Diesel Engine ☺️🚒☺️
I was allowed to run one of these for a few days. The other operators said it was the best finish grade scraper. (Fast paddles)
That’s why they liked this one too!!
I'm a new subscriber to your channel and enjoying your videos very entertaining great work
Thanks!!
Impressive. 👍🏻 Tires have a lot of tread left. I’d be afraid to see what those tires cost new today…
Everything is gone crazy expensive even hydraulic oil and stuff.
i love these great videos on youtube brilliant thanks from me kenneth i live in UK-GB.
Ooh, I noticed that you trapped the battery terminals on the battery that didn't have the vice grips on. Which is a big no no, as it breaks the seal around the terminals which let's it the sulphuric acid onto the terminals causing a build up of corrosion on your terminals. This causing a bad connection leading to bad starting eventually. Try opening up the terminal with a small spanner or a large flat bladed screwdriver. 😊
i have 504 in an international.its been a great engine
It’s called a self loading scraper. It’s a little finish scraper That picks up dirt or base winrows from a motor grader when he’s making grade and moves materials were they want it either to a stock pile or a low area making fine grade in streets .looks like a 903 Cummins in there.
I just used my 623 for that.
As best I recall, these had a 903 Cummins... That is 903 CI! Yes, the steering took some getting used to... you moved the wheel in the direction you wanted to turn and held it there until you were as 'sharp' as wanted, then released it... to straighten out you turned the wheel the Opposite direction until you were straight... In other words, the steering wheel just worked a standard hyd valve, NOT an orbital valve... The Other thing about these was that exhaust blowing directly onto the cutting edge... Since they were primarily for finishing (I worked with a blade operator picking-up windrows and filling in any low spots!), that exhaust would blow the powdery dust/dirt all Over!! :)
Steers like a Euc.
@@lewiemcneely9143.... Hi Lewie!! Sorry I haven't been in touch.... lots to do and time seems to be going by faster than I want it to. lol Hope you've been keeping Well, and doing ok... yes?
@@Romans--bo7br HEY, Pal and yes, all is as well as it gets in an old folks home but better than it ought to be. Hope you're doing fine and hopping around with great bursts of energy. I ooze long in a wobbling state but nothing new there and time is SCREECHING by. A week is a BLINK, if that. Don't be a stranger. My email is on my contact page. Till then, God Be With You!
@@lewiemcneely9143.... Great to hear from you again, Lewie! I got your email address... will email you asap.... just been really busy.. lots of projects to keep me occupied... especially the "honey do's"...seem to be never ending. lol Just kidding.. I get to do lots of my own projects, as well. I'm Blessed!! Will email ya asap, this week.. K? Lord Bless & Protect ya, til then.
@@lewiemcneely9143 ran a C pull with a Detroit in 5th gear it would outrun a 621 rode good may God bless and keep you
Another great video
Oh yeah, she'll run! I'm just glad it wasn't the Electric Wabco. Those electric ones are pretty much junk and really a pain to operate. My boss's son had two of them back in the late 80's. Toggle switch steering lol.
We have one of those too actually 🤣
We're they cable the red button worked good for shifting don't forget the quick Drop if the points burntout
We had one catch fire. Yup an electric fire! I also liked the toggle switch steering that would toss you from your bench seat. Lol
good start motors like 100%
I cut up a Wabco , diesel electric scrapper. Electric motors on chain. Electric steering. 4-71 Detroit. Was in very pore condition. 4-71 went to sawmill
believe it or not we have one of those too!
@@dieseJL gues they was a real treat to operate. Toggle switch steering could be like a bucking bull I was told
4-71 going on my sawmill. I have 2 mills. 2-71 going on smaller mill. Be videos on my channel of rebuilding mills and operating.
would make an awesome parade vehicle with a mad max look or crazy Halloween characters hanging off the side.
The Older Man must be from New Jersey!
Ours was a 101G. It was one of the last ones sold new in nw OH.
All filters and fuel system should have been checked before you even turned the key .
Brilliant video thank you
Looks like a triple nickle to me. Used in alot of concrete trucks in the 90’s
I thought the same thing
Looks like a Triple Nickel Cummins. Had a bunch of those in Blue Bird front engine school busses.
I thought the same the triple 5 your reference to. My opinion is this engine is an industrial version of those smaller V8s the little brother to the 903.
Starting that Motor without cleaning out that mouse nest in the air cleaner wasn’t the wisest thing to do. Just a wing nut and remove the filter.
I use to run a john deere pan very similar design
Right on!
Q legal muito joia parabéns pelo video👍👏👏👏😀
It should be a 555 Cummins they were very popular engines in trucks and equipment
🇧🇷👏👏👏👏 Espetacular!!!👏👏👏
If a diesel has no glow plugs, or other starting aids and it is blowing vapor out the exhaust when it turns over, more than likely, a shot of either will start it. I don't like to use it, but we do what we have to do, sometimes. If an engine has glow plugs, it is dangerous to use it, though.
Almost like watching Laurel and Hardy 😳
Willie got on his first Electric C pull and got back off the mec RED said what's the matter Willie said I can't run that it ain't got no steering wheel
Spray some starting fluid in it before you burn up the starter......
903, we lovingly called them a 9 0 nothing
Yes, the secret weapon effect
Hey dude, I have a question. I also have JL Ecodiesel and was wondering do you use the Rotopax for fuel storage? If so, any difficulty inserting the nozzle into the tank? I’m using the red pax but it’s got diesel in it. Thanks
I have two of the diesel cans but I have never used them. I suppose I could try and put some fuel in the Jeep with one 🤣
Nice way to get rid of a nest in the exhaust
Cummins V903, a great engine.
504
I’m surprised you guy’s didn’t melt the battery cables or the stater. Never keep cranking on it like that
Worked in a way or plant back in the day Toccoa ga might have helped build that machine
Grandes máquinas abandonadas buenos motores que aún tienen vida
What an interesting piece of machinery... I'm assuming it's more like a land planer rather than a loader type earth mover?
Sounds like we need to make a video of it operating 😎
@@dieseJL ya go resurface one of those fairways haha.
903 Cummins v8
@@bobharris9651 some guys called them 90 nothing
@@bobharris9651 504
O que é o mecânico profissional... concerta ao vivo!
Did you put a breaker bar on the crank and see if the motor will turn?
That’s what the starter is for
Dam u ran that all day you would been def back then
You are going to need a starter soon winding it constant , give it a rest and a snuff of aerostart
Exactly..Caning the guts out of the starter motor.. wtf for .. just a whiff of ether .. and that’s all it took.. see so many UA-camrs doing the same thing ..
The 504s where good engs, Most of the time. But the v555s like the blow head gaskets like it was their job! Then the big dog v903, a dog at that. But CHEAP HP and pretty good so I'm told on fuel. Parts no so much.
I don’t think it’s super common but it is a damn good engine! Has served us well.
@@dieseJL straight pipe that baby and you'll have a fun time running it it's not as loud as a Detroit for sure but it has a more common sound.
Diesel does not go bad like gasoline as long as it's capped.
Over here in Europe they add ethanol and some other bio shit things to diesel that binds with water. I can guarantee you, if your tank isn't completely filled up, condensation will form in the tank and bacteria start to grow on the bottom. After a year, there's so many sludge from the bactaria in the fuel system that it gets completely clogged up, such a pain. You're very lucky over there to still have some real diesel at the pumps :)
@@tuxer88 yes, I had to have a tank boiled out on a used truck I bought while staying at my home in Bulgaria a few years back. I had never heard of putting ethanol in diesel fuel before. Willie Nelson created a biodiesel some 20 or more years ago. If you let that sit more than 3 months algae would start to grow but it was made from sea algae. Straight diesel fuel though will still be fine decades later as long as it's kept clean.
You didn’t clean terminals, way to kill batteries and starter. Sell it or scrap it.
Finally ... a video of heavy equipment really left dormant for years .Tired of watching videos of equipment that has not run for a week only but claimed to be years.
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Well it's running, but had to be the most incompetent start of an old piece of heavy equipment I've ever seen 😂
unless they didn't record doing intelligent stuff.
Yep left all the rats nest in the air cleaner to get sucked in to the engine should have taken time to pull the filter out and cleaned it might have started better and no lube in the top of the engine
Give her some either
Steers like a Euc (green lizard)and engine probably a 903 or 555 Cummins. They'd turn 3k.
It’s a V-504
Drunk driving on the haul road
Cool
Possibly a 903 Cummins
I’m pretty sure that the engine in the scraper is a 903 Cummins
I think thats a tripple nickel. 555 Cummins v8 na. 903 was turbocharged
We call those paddle wheelers
Next time crack your lines!!, so you know all the air is out of the fuel lines, tighten them back up and then try starting it.
Call Hank at Hamilton farms he can get it going
504 Cummins NA
Bom dia! Pra mim é uma honra viu prestigiar seu trabalho, vamos sempre juntos somar e fortalecer nossos objetivos, Conto com você, eu já estou por aqui
Cummin v504 ...178 hp.
Just put the battery and start it,,,cowboy style,,,,yasalam
That old man sounded clueless with his responses .
Might want to close the can.
If something that much that cost doesn't start after that short of period of time then you've waste your money I seen vehicles sit longer than that and still start
Which the story behind this abandoned machines??? 🤔
930 903 Cummins
Mto bom 👏👏👏👍🇧🇷
need a dizel men fioyler on
Triple nickel was common in equipment
come on, Google it, watch UA-cam, Im actually pissed I'm ASE heavy certified when I get a road call I never get that lucky with a starter or batteries, all that cranking all they had to was just a whiff of either it and it would of went, those old Cummins have low horsepower and low compression, any heavy mechanic would tell you, low compression equals low heat build up, in cold Temps the starter even that mighty one, it just cannot spin the motor fast enough to create the heat needed for combustion hence the whiff.😊
It says Cummings on the side
သင်စွမ်အားကြီးသောရှေးခါတ်မြေတူးကားကြီးကိုသယ်လာသူပဲကံကောင်ပါစေ
Um? Is there no counter weight on that
What do you mean?
@@dieseJL when I took I.u.o.e. The scrapers were military surplus. On the front there was a huge counter balance
Thus when on heavy grade you could turn fully to the right. And would not tip or roll down the birm
The scrapers were much larger. But around the same age
@@dieseJL and we didn’t have cool tech like depth finders and buttons. All shifts gears clutch and levers. No air conditioning. Some didn’t even have windows on the bulldozers. And I had to do everything by eye. I front of my instructors to pass. No paying anybody of or buying a cheat sheet like a college business class
@@dieseJL a cap on the oil of my scraper would have been nice. Or a day after rain. For the dozer to have mud instead of dust would have had been appreciated
@@dieseJL no I didn’t get busted joy riding a cat d13 at the manufacturer on a trip
That guy was a negative Nancy, wasn't he? Also, always scrape your terminals.
Gosto muito desse tipo de vídeo ficou ótimo mais gostaria que fosse dublado em português ou espanhol ou legendado em português ok
903 engine
chek the oiil the water
What a shame , should of changed the fuel filters and flushed out tank, and use antifree not lake water
555 cummins
Ooh, pump up fuel🙄
Cummins 555? "Triple Nickel"