Hi Jamie ... You’re a good teacher, i’m actually starting to understand this game of yours. Sadly, growing up in Southern California, I wasn’t exposed to Curling at all; but, i do watch it on television whenever it’s on and love it -- it looks like so much fun. Thanks for the videos.
Jamie this is great! I've gotten more into Curling in the last year and these videos are great for me, who is trying to improve his game. I'm in a league in Salt Lake City and one of my team-mates recommended this video.
Jamie - Great video - thank you... I have a question. I have a bonspiel coming up but have never curled at this facility. We are told this rink is known for having 'straight ice'. What does that mean and what strategy should we use. Thanks again. Irma from Canada
Another great video Jamie. I have been trying to share these with everyone in Kingston and Napanee where I curl. Great videos for new curlers and fantastic reminders for those who have curled for years. I have curled since I was a kid and many of these things have been taught to me at one point or another but just like golf its easy to develop bad habits. These collection of videos have helped me improve immensely this year and I am always looking forward to the next one!
As a newer curler, this series is super helpful. Would love to understand hits more and whether to use an in turn or out turn in order to get the results you want. I guess this would incorporate angles and physics too.
Yeah it can get a little complicated. For a regular hit and roll, you can make the shot with either turn. Normally i call the turn that curls the least. That way it makes calling line easier. For doubles on the other hand, you want to call the turn that will give you the most amount of action with the shooter. Depending where you hit the stationary rock and with what turn, your shooter might change the direction of its rotation. If it has to change direction of rotation, then you will lose a lot of momentum and it will redirect at a flatter angle.
Hi Jamie - thanks for all these videos they are very helpful to a new curler like myself. I'd be interested in seeing more about where you should hit a rock for different types of take-outs. I see now that this is more like billiards from an angle perspective. Also, are you aware of anyone who talks about doubles curling strategies? Thanks again Jamie.
Fantastic videos Jamie! They have been very helpful, in slowing things down to see it piece by piece, in my first month and a half of curling (ladies day league and misc. day and evening events.) I even watched your strategy ones before trying early Sunday "Crazy Birds" fun format for anyone, as a total newbie! (Rotate team positions every 2nd end.) However, I have had no luck in finding specific tips on the internet about the mystery of HOW to throw different weights. One night, I was suddenly fairly consistent in draws, but wasn't sure how I was achieving it! I would love some tips as to how to visualize/ think in the hack, and slight differences in technique for throwing different weights. I can't practice using times (seconds,) on my own. I did note your earlier comments about momentum. Any other ideas to help us other than just experience and time, as many say? One skip did suggest thinking about throwing through the broom to the hack or guideline. It seems obvious, but it really helped! Another talked about a 1-2-3 tempo in delivery - perhaps for consistency? Keep up the great videos!
Just curious, in your "hit" video you say your team plays normal, firm, and peel. You make no mention of firm in this video. Just wondering what the difference is between normal and firm for your team. Great videos. Using them to reinforce communication with the kids.
You should do a video on how much roll to expect after a hit. This is something even the pros have a hard time doing because they don't teach this in Physics class and they should. For example, if you hit half a rock, Assuming 0 degrees is on the nose and 90 degrees is the least you can hit a rock, half a rock is 45 degrees. You can expect COS(45) = 70.7 % of the weight to transfer into the other rock and the thrown rock will slow down to 29.3% at the moment of impact ... but will have more spin and hence speed added to it if you hit the right side of the rock with outturn, or left side with intern ... but less than 29% if you hit right side with intern or left side with outturn ( Right handed ). If you want to split rocks to that both the thrown rock and the high rock end up the same distance down the ice you need COS(x) = 50%. Therefore you need to hit the rock at 60 degrees... or 1/3 of a rock.
Great video. Thanks! I'd love to see a video on different releases. For example, I often hear Team Homan sweepers asking, "How are you throwing it?" which to me sounds like they use different releases for different kinds of shots, but I don't understand what the differences are and why they are used.
Yes, that is really high level stuff. World level teams have different releases for different ice conditions and different shots. Most curlers are better off just mastering one release and being extremely consistent with it. Examples of different releases are: having more rotation, or feeding it (slight outward motion)
Yes, although you are asking for T-line, it is hard to be perfect... so if the thrower is a little light, then the sweepers can sweep to help drag the rock farther. Also, if the thrower is a little tight of the broom, then the sweepers can sweep to hold the line straighter.
So if you want a draw to the button the thrower throws to before the house so the sweepers can bring it in? You would also give wider ice as a sweep rock will curl more then one thrown to the button? Am I understanding?
The throwers tolerance is a little light so that they can use their sweepers yes. Keep in mind that average sweepers can only drag a rock an extra 3-5 feet. So if you are too light then your sweepers still won't be able to get it to the button. And if you sweep a rock the whole way down the sheet then that rock will actually travel straighter.
Hi Jamie ... You’re a good teacher, i’m actually starting to understand this game of yours. Sadly, growing up in Southern California, I wasn’t exposed to Curling at all; but, i do watch it on television whenever it’s on and love it -- it looks like so much fun. Thanks for the videos.
That is awesome! I hope you get to try it one day!
Jamie this is great! I've gotten more into Curling in the last year and these videos are great for me, who is trying to improve his game. I'm in a league in Salt Lake City and one of my team-mates recommended this video.
Thats awesome!
Jamie - Great video - thank you... I have a question. I have a bonspiel coming up but have never curled at this facility. We are told this rink is known for having 'straight ice'. What does that mean and what strategy should we use. Thanks again.
Irma from Canada
Another great video Jamie. I have been trying to share these with everyone in Kingston and Napanee where I curl. Great videos for new curlers and fantastic reminders for those who have curled for years. I have curled since I was a kid and many of these things have been taught to me at one point or another but just like golf its easy to develop bad habits. These collection of videos have helped me improve immensely this year and I am always looking forward to the next one!
That is fantastic to hear! Thanks for sharing!!
As a newer curler, this series is super helpful. Would love to understand hits more and whether to use an in turn or out turn in order to get the results you want. I guess this would incorporate angles and physics too.
Yeah it can get a little complicated. For a regular hit and roll, you can make the shot with either turn. Normally i call the turn that curls the least. That way it makes calling line easier. For doubles on the other hand, you want to call the turn that will give you the most amount of action with the shooter. Depending where you hit the stationary rock and with what turn, your shooter might change the direction of its rotation. If it has to change direction of rotation, then you will lose a lot of momentum and it will redirect at a flatter angle.
Hi Jamie - thanks for all these videos they are very helpful to a new curler like myself. I'd be interested in seeing more about where you should hit a rock for different types of take-outs. I see now that this is more like billiards from an angle perspective. Also, are you aware of anyone who talks about doubles curling strategies? Thanks again Jamie.
Great idea! in the meantime, check out the video on drag effect. I do talk a little more about angle in there.
Sorry - one more question. Do you publish a table of contents for your many videos?
i don't.... but maybe i should!
Fantastic videos Jamie! They have been very helpful, in slowing things down to see it piece by piece, in my first month and a half of curling (ladies day league and misc. day and evening events.) I even watched your strategy ones before trying early Sunday "Crazy Birds" fun format for anyone, as a total newbie! (Rotate team positions every 2nd end.)
However, I have had no luck in finding specific tips on the internet about the mystery of HOW to throw different weights. One night, I was suddenly fairly consistent in draws, but wasn't sure how I was achieving it! I would love some tips as to how to visualize/ think in the hack, and slight differences in technique for throwing different weights. I can't practice using times (seconds,) on my own. I did note your earlier comments about momentum. Any other ideas to help us other than just experience and time, as many say? One skip did suggest thinking about throwing through the broom to the hack or guideline. It seems obvious, but it really helped! Another talked about a 1-2-3 tempo in delivery - perhaps for consistency? Keep up the great videos!
Thanks for the lesson.
Just curious, in your "hit" video you say your team plays normal, firm, and peel. You make no mention of firm in this video. Just wondering what the difference is between normal and firm for your team. Great videos. Using them to reinforce communication with the kids.
Logic it out. Normal 9.5 Peel 7.5, Firm is going to be about 8.5
You should do a video on how much roll to expect after a hit. This is something even the pros have a hard time doing because they don't teach this in Physics class and they should. For example, if you hit half a rock, Assuming 0 degrees is on the nose and 90 degrees is the least you can hit a rock, half a rock is 45 degrees. You can expect COS(45) = 70.7 % of the weight to transfer into the other rock and the thrown rock will slow down to 29.3% at the moment of impact ... but will have more spin and hence speed added to it if you hit the right side of the rock with outturn, or left side with intern ... but less than 29% if you hit right side with intern or left side with outturn ( Right handed ). If you want to split rocks to that both the thrown rock and the high rock end up the same distance down the ice you need COS(x) = 50%. Therefore you need to hit the rock at 60 degrees... or 1/3 of a rock.
What is the definition of firm please
Great video. Thanks!
I'd love to see a video on different releases. For example, I often hear Team Homan sweepers asking, "How are you throwing it?" which to me sounds like they use different releases for different kinds of shots, but I don't understand what the differences are and why they are used.
Yes, that is really high level stuff. World level teams have different releases for different ice conditions and different shots. Most curlers are better off just mastering one release and being extremely consistent with it. Examples of different releases are: having more rotation, or feeding it (slight outward motion)
You are looking so different... anyways cool video as always 😇👍
When calling a shot, if draw weight is asked for, how come the sweepers have to sweep? Aren't you asking them to throw to the t line?
A rock thrown a bit light can be saved, a rock thrown too heavy can not.
Yes, although you are asking for T-line, it is hard to be perfect... so if the thrower is a little light, then the sweepers can sweep to help drag the rock farther. Also, if the thrower is a little tight of the broom, then the sweepers can sweep to hold the line straighter.
So if you want a draw to the button the thrower throws to before the house so the sweepers can bring it in? You would also give wider ice as a sweep rock will curl more then one thrown to the button? Am I understanding?
The throwers tolerance is a little light so that they can use their sweepers yes. Keep in mind that average sweepers can only drag a rock an extra 3-5 feet. So if you are too light then your sweepers still won't be able to get it to the button. And if you sweep a rock the whole way down the sheet then that rock will actually travel straighter.