The Story of Shroud Manor & Mob Boss Louie Trevisani - Creation Club Update for Fallout 4
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They totally missed an opportunity to add in a Mistress of Mystery suit of armor.
It would have made much more sense if this “manor” was another DIA front instead of a mob front, except with Mistress of Mystery merchandise as a cover. And it would have been a perfect Railroad safe house.
Interesting, but I like it as it is...
I agree but the Mistress of Mystery was filmed in West Virginia, not Boston, but that's a good idea.
@@theelite49 She's mentioned heavily during Fallout 4 and appeared on some covers of The Unstoppables issues we find during Fallout 4. You have a point that her special weapons weren't brought in until Fallout 76 though.
Trevisani already went to the trouble of having Shroud costume of his own made. It's hardly have been much of an issue for him to have an appropriate one made in addition to his for his own Mistress of Mystery.
The MoM outfit from FO76 was.. underwhelming... so not very upset missing it in FO4.
“We can turn off the radio to avoid demonetisation”
Quinn Clapton demonetization is a dangerous thing in the wastelands
@@PretzlcoatlTheFirst They demonitized one of his videos on Fallout 76 for a little bout off song on the radio. Since then he always do this.
He said rape in the video. The robot doesn’t like that either, so he’s probably gonna have to appeal this one anyway.
The dude that sang the "Wanderer" song has been putting copyright claims against thousands of Fallout videos.
@@LordPenguinYourLeige that'd be a neat trick he died in 2016 Carlo Mastrangelo, an original member of Dion and the Belmonts, whose baritone vocals undergirded the group's harmonies on a string of doo-wop hits like “No One Knows” and “A Teenager in Love,” died on Monday in Boynton Beach, Fla. He was 78. The cause was cancer, Warren Gradus, a current member of the Belmonts, said.Apr 6, 2016 in case anyone is curious Dion and the Belmonts originally sang the wanderer
Damn, Oxhorn must be a BOSS at MadLibs. The way he replaces the curse words with different, more family friendly turns of phrase is impressive. Way to fill in those blanks lol
It’s better than what everyone else is doing .
he has a young kid so i imagine he's had a lot of practice
Wonder how hard that is
@@Swagerm-qc4kx I am in broadcasting myself and I can tell you that it's not easy at all. Live reading is already hard. Replacing words in your head as you read them is even tougher. To do it and have it actually sound natural? Incredibly difficult. But he probably did it in one take without trying too hard because he's a pro.
@@TitoMcFadden R/woosh
15:06 Even in a post apocalyptic future, the Lone Survivor worries about their UA-cam career
*sole survivor
where have you bean? look at the time!! Oh yeah. Thanks
ur welcome
Damm
you're not wrong.
Oxhorn to answer your question about why this guy was never mentioned in any terminal maybe it's a case of "a legend in your own mind" kinda thing. Maybe get wasn't big but he thought he was. Again it was 2 cops who after him not a task force like with Eddie Winter. Just my 2 cents Ox.
@Lord Stingray I think you’re on to something. Well lore’d, my friend!
Also he's the king of Cambridge. North Side and South side gangs don't mix much. Winter is mostly South Boston and the Fens right?
That's a really good idea that helps the lore seem more legit. Great thought. 👍
Had much of the same thought. Not the first time a criminal overestimates himself
@@benwillems8584 Still. That's an impressive lair for a minor mob boss.
I think Oxhorn missed an opportunity to do this as the Silver Sroude.
*shroud
U right
Shroud
U spelled shroud wrong no disrespect though : P
Yes, yes, please Oxhorn give us the Shroud again.
Your rendition of Trevisani's rat note was legendary.
It hit me as immensely funny that she was carrying donut mix. I’ve never seen it spawn on a corpse before.
Its one of the downsides of the Coffee and Donuts mod, adds donut mix to the loot lists, and at times it can be very silly.
@@z0h33y If I don't see donut mix spawn on a radroach, then I'm gonna be mad.
It's still edible.
I like to think a Bethesda dev seen Oxhorn's swear censoring and decided to give him a challenge with that note.
This mod wasn't made by Bethesda, though. 😉
@@Rakmarok “mini dlc” they say.
Lol Next up, Austin (from ShoddyCast/The Game Theorists)
Maybe candy saw the vault Tec rep and thought it was her old boss
OMG! That might be right!
@Keegskillercrok I thought about Nick to bit the vault tec rep seems a better fit. He could have been roaming aroumd before settling at good neighbor or was just out scavaging at the time
Well, someone said that Tommy (combat zone owner) has a ticket so it could be him as what he is wearing did look cheap and it is tan.
Anyway, perhaps he walked away from his past and now the ticket and the suit is all he has as a memory but he doesn’t want to talk about.
I like the idea that she was going crazy/feral after all these years and was paranoid/seeing things.
I'm betting it's the Mysterious Stranger
Ok, Ox coming up with so many replacements for the “f” word was hilarious. I giggled.
Im just tryna go crazy
I think it's a pretty decent creation! However, I was a bit surprised there wasn't a reference to Eddie Winter here. It would have been nice seeing his name pop up, maybe expanding the lore a bit with feuding mob bosses. Trevisani could have been just starting out as a mob boss and a name drop of "I will run this town some day, not Eddie Winter" could have cleared that lore conflict up.
Eddie Winter is based on Whitey Bulger.
I think the guy she saw in the tan coat after the bombs drop might have been the vault tech rep. Look at his clothes
I think it could have been him, Nick or even the mysterious stranger.
I wish you were given the opportunity to TALK to Candy.
Also, Shroud Manor would be great as a map for GMod Murder.
Shroud manor is the kind of home I've been looking at, looted and wished I could have. It never made sense to me why I never could take over any of the big houses. This fills that spot. It's sad I can't share it with my settlers though.
Man all the secret pathways hidden behind bookcases in this house are really awesome.
I need that as a mod for my Coastal Cottage secret room
If you are wealthy and you do not have a secret pathway behind a bookcase someplace in your house, you are just wrong.
I hope they update/patch it so we can use the Shroud Manor build items at other settlements. Would make good use of those hidden doors.
I did this quest wearing the Silver Shroud outfit, and my companion wore the Mistress of Mystery outfit (Mistress and Master of Mystery Costume
mod).
The man in the tan suit reminds me of the vault tec salesman. Maybe that's who Candy saw on the monitors?
Or Nick
@@l3luSpy or someone better...
The stranger
What about the ticket?
jeff Mcjeff most likely her overreaching or hallucinating. There was no way for her to see the ticket but perhaps she imagined she did. Making her think it was him.
Edit: also seen comments suggesting it’s Cait’s boss given he has a ticket in his pocket apparently.
Could be the Mysterious Stranger.
Oxhorn if the UA-cam stuff dries up you could get work editing scripts for Television conversions for R-rated movies.
To be fair he could have made a lot of money back when people was making a lot of mature movies and games into cartoon series
I would love Oxhorn doing audio books! Especially scary stories!
Before I bought this I said I'll wait on Oxhorn to do a video for it...
same here
Same
Hah!
Every Six months or so i Click on the Creation Club butt never Purchased anything, butt they have this Manor onsale 🤔 i'm a Sucker for house mods ( Tons installed ) figured i'll bet Oxhorn Covered this manor and if it's to my liking i mite make my first purchase ( more so for the modder ) as i'm still disappointed with Fallout 76 😫
Just a thought on the whole thing with the carpenters, it's possible that they told Trevisani that the billiard room floor was sagging simply to generate more work for themselves; it does seem like most business owners in the time before the war all had some 'shady ' scheme going on- and it's something that does happen in RL, so there's that. The carpenter also mentioned that he really enjoyed working on the place and connected with the 'more work from a rich guy' motive could explain why the floor appears to have been repaired; the work never really needed to be done.
in the words of danny devito when i'm dead just throw me in the trash
IM THE TRASH MAN I EAT TRASH
eat me pls
Something interesting, by making the "Silver Shrouds" scarf scarlet red like they have, it actually gives the outfit an appearance much closer to the Shrouds main influence, The Shadow. The Shadow's an old pulp era hero that ran in a long black trench coat, broad black hat, and a bright red scarf. They tried to make a movie with Alec Baldwin in the 90s, but it failed pretty miserably. Still, a neat touch nonetheless.
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men...
I do hope for the next creation club mods are a starlet sniper, manta man, or a mistress of mystery.
Doc Coke they probably won’t do mistress of mystery because it’s in 76 as a full blown quest line
Some survivors of the original group from FO76
I’d kill for some Manta Man content.
Man, that Trevasani rant about rats was a work of art
This is my absolute FAVORITE personal Home/headquarters solely for its location. Because I play on survival and there's no fast travel....once you unlock the Institute, you can fast travel there which is conveniently located smack dab in the center of the map. Almost directly around the corner, lol is the Shroud Manor. So now you can fast travel from any point to the Institute, then walk for 60s or so and be at your home. Store all your new gear you love, and be close enough to quickly sell whatever else. The best one yet imo
Thanks for the video Ox.
The impression I got was that his front was supposed to be collecting, dealing, auctioning silver shroud memorabilia.
Whereas in reality he was producing fakes and selling them, likely using dirty tactics like threatening actual Silver Shroud artists into doing his work and later dealing the chems and ammo using the infrastructure he had already created.
Less people are going to talk about someone who deals knock-off novelties than someone like Eddie Winter, we just follow the police who turn their attention to the carpenters.
or, or! Candy, having contacts and people in many places could have traded information for those items from the institute, I mean it'd be easy for a mob boss with connections to point out key players in cities to replace with synths and also, having non synth (and in fact ghoul) contacts would benefit the institute (I mean, Trashcan Carla and the other traders are examples)
I feel like candy should have gone crazy and masqueraded as the silver shroud. They should have had the mob boss be some newbie boss who loved the silver shroud characters buying stuff and owning a comic book shop. He would fund all this with selling chems, gambling and what not. The silver shroud manor would be his own little museum. He would have pictures of all the silver shroud characters, especially the villains. They could have made up pictures for characters and given them names too. Make it all just for this mod. Maybe after 200 years candy would be crazier than ever and pays the triggermen to kill this silver shroud imposter (which is you) which explains why they are after you so much.
Player homes, Don't get me wrong I love em' but after building my Hearthfire in Skyrim my attitude was "Wow this place is cool. Time to never come back"
I feel you.
I haven't played Skyrim all that much, so I can't comment on that. But I do kinda ignore player homes too in Fallout 4, unless I need to drop something off for a mod adventure that something I'm using at the time doesn't fit well with. (like Power Armour + Concussion.) I tend to use the Castle as my home as I am a Minuteman. It's the most defensible area and I send all my companions there as well.
I tend to do the quests as they give XP.
@@kadindarklord In Terms of fallout 4. I build then, "Well that's done" and only return to store, scrap etc
ikr
Even with settlements you only need to work on a handful of them to get the maximum utility out of them. Player homes are cool in concept but they are just completely useless with how the game is.
What if the man in the tan suit that candy saw was the mysterious stranger
Purchased the Shroud Manor Onsale for 250 credits about a month ago ( first for me : Creation Club ) and So far So good 🎮 Thanx for Posting 🇵🇹
A Police officer named Callahan, with a tan suit. I'm thinking its a Dirty Harry reference possibly?
Ether that or it is supposed to be the Mysterious stranger.
Was kinda bummed that there wasn’t a hat to go with the shroud outfit. Though I suppose the lore reason would be that the guy wasn’t really a shroud fan so the bowler cap goes with it.
Well you could use the silver shroud hat that you get when you have the outfit from Good Neighbor
My idea was to have a “back up” suit and turn shroud manor into my silver shroud base. I role play my characters pretty heavy and it would have been cool to have a batcave of sorts.
There's always the battered fedora and trilby.
Very true, but it looks so different. I wonder if there’s an item duplication glitch
@@Eldrick_ there is one. You could duplicate items with dogmeat. I don't think they fixed it.
"That's like a Nazi saying my favorite super hero is captain america" nice one ox
Given that Captain America was an American version of the Nazi ideal that was the ubermensch it's a bit more on than nose than you might think
2Scribble No, it’s actually superman
@@2Scribble They called it Propaganda in Germany but when we brought Nazis to America via Operation Paperclip it became Media. 2013- Smith-Mundt act was repealed thereby allowing the federal government to use propaganda on American citizens. Why repeal the law unless you planned on releasing propaganda in the open and you want immunity from treason charges?
@@2Scribble Up until people notice the *entertaining* reality that Nazis completely misunderstood and butchered the actual Ubermensch concept, which had absolutely nothing to do with the ideas of racial supremacy, antisemitism and ultranationalism.
@@dakoderii4221 "WE" did not bring Nazis to America... Misguided people who blame other's for their failures, chose to take up the same blame hate as Hitler fed to the starving citizens of Germany as their reason for hating entire races, creeds, and people's religious beliefs. There are two types of Hate Mongers... Those who control the ignorant and the ignorant who believe their controllers.
"We now return to our heroes at the lair of the the SILVER SHROUD."
Listening to Ox doing somersaults and backflips around what are clearly curse words as I cleaned was a pure joy 😂
I feel like Oxhorn could be an amazing voice actor or someone that dose cool voice for videogames. I find his voice soothing and calming and I can never figure out why it just is.
boop132 pow227 it sounds rough but good and it’s perfect for any narration or most voiceover
Yeah that's what I think
Ghoul in a Tan suit, with a ticket.... sounds like a certain ghoul with a certain "Little Bird"...
I don't follow.
@@MarioKaiba
Goto the Combat Zone... ghoul, tan suit, has a 'ticket' in his breast pocket (depending on your clothing mods, it maybe gone)
Not saying it IS him, as this is a CC dlc and not officially F4, but I could see the creator using him as a tie in. As to the name not being the same, we have lots of canon of Ghouls changing their names over time...
@@j.g.woitas841
.....Or she could of seen the Vault Tech guy. He wears a tan suit, and is a ghoul. It could also be Nick Valentine who wears a suit, and looks like a ghoul from a distance. (To me anyway) Even though Nick's really a synthetic man from the Institute. Anyway have a great/wonderful day.🙋
@@awc8938 nick is a synth not a ghoul mate
@@NiteArtorias
.....Thank You for correcting me. I edited my comment, and made it right. I should really pay attention to what I'm writing from now on.😕
Wonder if Bethesda will update it to where the lamps curtains other light fixtures other posters are available to be crafted as well as have it's own cc cat in the workshop menu and the mistress of mistorory outfit would be nice to OH and a Fedora to go with the shroud outfit FYI the kites handmaiden outfit is a really awesome retexture of the silver shroud outfit
I like the location. Early game, I often stash my power armor at Cambridge police station on my way to Diamond City and it is nice to have a player home nearby.
Silver shroud is one of the key aspects that I liked from Fallout 4 having seen this I now have a new vested interest in getting involved in the game again
@Tl2aV - no, you.
Then again this also helps with the fact that I've done the Good Neighbor side quest and obtained of the silver shroud outfit
The Silvershroud is a masterpiece, yknow you love the cheesy senseless murder. When it was Taboo.
Isn't Kent Connollys suit tan as well. I could see him going around a house called Shroud Manor.
A thought on the man in the tanned suit, makes me wonder if it was a reference to the "Sole Survivor" (our PC) or the "Vault Tec Rep" ghoul character.
Of Course that breaks lore, seeing has the player can chose the "Sole Survivors" gender, and "Vault Tec Rep" wears a yellow dirty suit or was it clean yellow suit? (It has been awhile so I don't remember clearly)
So my first thought is more likely, but only if you choose "Nate" over "Nora".
But has we all know... Creation Club is "rarely" lore friendly XD
I really enjoy how you tell the things that bother you about the creation as well as those that you like. Helps in deciding some times if it's worth it or if you will ever use it with more information.
I love how Oxhorn avoids swear words and makes the dialogue funnier as a result.
I find it interesting that "Candy" in this story has almost the same storyline as the Mistress of Mystery posing as a girl name Candy undercover to get to a mob boss in the Silver Shroud radio show.
I've been subscribed to oxhorn for years 2 years to be specific however I know I am not the only one who wants a few audiobooks by oxhorn how he describes and just does that voice of his is awesome
Wow, this manor is HUGE!
i cant stop laughing at how you read his rat note, we need to get you to read a lot more terminals with cussing in them because that was hilarious
this one might get me back into Fallout 4 for a while.
will have to do a clean install though, it's the best way to get the creation club to work with mods.
Listening to Oxhorn read the Rat monologue without swearing was gold! The fact you did that without skipping a beat or slipping is impressive!
Oxhorn is The Commonwealth's richest person - 346,000 caps!
Black trench coat: Check
Snazzy black hat: Check
Red scarf: Check
Well, somebody's gonna have to explain why this Silver Shroud fan was also a Shadow cosplayer...
THE SHADOW KNOWS!....hahaha..
That "F-bleeped" rant translation was bloody incredible, my good man! Well worth several replays -:D
Any one else think it would have been cool if you had to search every corner of that house to find the vault area. You know instead of a marker?
Great job, Oxhorn!
When I read the description of the CC item for sale “suspected crime boss” my thoughts went to that being a cover for someone trying to *be* the Silver Shroud before the bombs fell.
They couldn’t get dirt on the guy because he wasn’t a crime boss but he seemed to somehow know what criminals were doing.
Kind of like The Green Hornet.
People thought he was a villain but he is actually the hero.
I also think the retexture of the Shroud costume is interesting.
Basically, if you want to be a hero, but not The Shroud, you can actually be The Shadow!
Okay, yes, that seems to have been the original idea for The Shroud. He is the Fallout Universe’s version of The Shadow.
Now we can choose to be either. 😄😎👍
Seems to be worth $4. I may grab it.
I just wish they had made a Mistress of Mystery outfit/armor and her weapons as well.
If they had done that I would have bought this CC even before watching this to see if I should spend the money. 😉
Alas.
Well I finally got a home for the silver shroud
I wish you had done this in the Shroud's voice, Oxhorn! You'd really do him justice :)
Well, I have the mysterious serum, it could be nice to speak with Candy, and turn her into the beauty she was in her top days (from a ghoul). THAT could be awesome, together with the possibility to run this house as a settlement and settlers (invite settlers here and equip them with submachine gun and other clothes available here). Growing plant on the attic, should have soem water too. Lot of nice loot, but little too silent in this way.
30:37 that was best censoring i ever heard you kept the flow of the scene; not once did i question what you were saying, damn Hollywood could take a lesson from you OX :)
Im a couple years late watching these vids and cant get over the time, effort and passion Ox puts into these. Great job! Looking forward to binging them all.
I like the silver ring. And the dress. Probably one of my favorite house mods besides Charlestown Condo.
I love the humor of calling out Trevisani for selling Silver Shroud merch, then immediately promoting bootleg Fallout merch on the Oxhorn store. Grade A comedy right there!
Any way to turn the manor into a settlement? Full workshop + settlers + caravan route? Nice big house, with lots of secret doors, but ultimately too quiet
All fallout 4 houses don't have windows lol
It sucks.
I now right so weird
Yeah, most indoor cells of houses don't have a outdoor space in the windows, but I personally like it better that way than having lowpoly buildings.
mdkd99 I wish the condo or penthouse could have openable windows
Shame
This is a great creation, especially for just 400 credits. Will work perfectly for my next playthrough, which will be as John Wick.
I like to think that things from the creation club that don’t show up anywhere else (ie the two mob families in this mod) or missing links in stories (sagging floor boards/sergeant in tan suit) have just been lost to time. It’s been 200 years, closure is something that should be hard to find. I try to imagine all the stories that have been lost from Ancient Egypt or other civilizations and how they’ve been lost to time. I’m sure much information has been lost from before the War. Great vid as always!
it’s amazing how oxhorn can replaces swear words with family friendly words so quickly
I think this is worth the price. Wish the gun had a legendary effect but I like everything else. I actually love the new castle paintings and have put them up in three different settlements. I like having a second Shroud outfit for my companion. Does anyone know if wearing this new Shroud outfit allows you to “Speak as the Shroud” in certain dialog options?
What happened to Trevisani's body? Did Candy move it? Or worse, ate it? And what was the deal with the ring?
I absolutely love your channel and cannot go a day without watching as it’s now a routine of mine, so thank you
Every time I see something on the creation club that looks interesting to me I check your channel to see if you've reviewed it yet so thank you for always doing this! I also wanted to say that almost every part of this creation reminds me a lot of the various buildings and player homes you get in New Vegas, minus the western theme. New Vegas just had a lot more complete and not caved in buildings than anything I've come across from vanilla FO3 and FO4 I feel like.
The guy she saw was most likely the Vault-tec sales rep in his yellow suit. On a dim monitor, it would appear tan. He does wander around the commonwealth, and can be found dead if you wait too long to meet him in Good Neighbor.
Edit: please upvote so Ox will see.
46:50 *OMG I SHOT TEA OUT MY NOSE LAUGHING, I'M CRYING SO HARD!* 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
41:29 Pedantic? I’d say you’re generating more sympathy for those who want to keep these mods as lore-friendly as possible. Pedantry is what holds together the fraction of the Fallout community vexed about lore breaks. I don’t think a whole lot of people here would blame you for it.
I watched this vid to assist with finding the new home. I usually don't watch the entire vid. I watch just enough to get the gist of it. Oxhorn's voice and manor of story telling was extremely compelling. I found his use of 1930'/40's slang in place of swear words endearing. I immediately liked and subscribed to his channel. It was so fun watching/listening to his work.
I don't know why but the companions sometimes wander off and explore a new area. At least for me
LOL! 15:07 we can turn off the radio to avoid demonetization he says it's so nonchalant
The censorship in the Rat Rant was fabulously hilarious!!
The 'man in the tan suit' was likely the Vault-Tec salesman, whom you would have sent to Sanctuary, and he likely walked through this area to get to there. But yeah, they should have connected all of this to Eddie Winter somehow.
Hey maybe the guy in the tan suit is the Mysterious Stranger or Nick Valentine.
I feel sorry for Candy 😔 wish we could of talked to her.
I wonder if Nick Valentine has any unique dialogue with the whole mob boss thing
As soon as I saw the dresses I thought “Give it to Veronica” lol
An underrated comment this is
I love the mansion! I couldn't find the lamps either. I hope they fix that soon.
After nearly 200 years the cameras and monitors were failing badly. Through her connections, Candy was able to obtain Institute equipment and have it all installed but even she was screwed over as the cameras were none other than our pesky little birds.
16:23 all the other kids with pumped up kicks
So i just realized something..... The Fat Fahee episode of Silver Shroud gives us EXACTLY the reason the undercover cop here was named "Candy" ... The undercover Mistress of Mysteries took on the persona to infiltrate the crime syndicate of Fat Fahee.
It's blatant foreshadowing while also being a reference.
Absolutely correct!
Also, I understand how the shroud hobby hides his empire. The gang has some nobody artist make up a poster, maybe through connections, the gang then has these posters authenticated as one of a kind art works, then they sell them to themselves at auction(someone bidding in the audience) then late those junk collectables are sold on the open market for profit. The gang gets by appearing as collectors of art and memorabilia, you want Shroud memorabilia that's extremely rare and valuable? Go to them, and they procure it, except it's all fake and they take the money. But they can avoid charges on this because they can easily make it real art by just having the actors sign it because we know that the gang already know the actors well. They come off as just another memorbellia dealer which is profitable, but highly risky, few people make it in that world, so they do it illegitimately which makes them seem even smarter but also hides their money, say a customer wants a poster, the gang says they'll get one for 1,000,000 dollars, well they'll go to an auction and buy that poster for 2,000,000 and since the auction house is one their payroll, it's all good. They spend their clients million and a million dollars in drug money, then they cook the books and get it all to line up with phantom buyers and bidding on more than one item the client didn't ask for. It's actually a pretty common scheme in the art world and very very hard to catch.
"LOUIS "STANDUP GUY" TREVISANI"
Lmao, never change Ox
Actually love how he replaces all the swear words, some of the things he changed things too in trivianis terminal was amazing
@31:30, That was beautiful!
Was that in one Take?
Cool in depth review and walkthrough of this creation. I had a great time with the replaced words and the rat section.
I wonder what would've happened if you had the Silver Shroud costume, but at the same time I think Candy would've just continued shooting you.
I love the words Ox uses to censor in the terminal entries.
Finally my thoughts on this creation its great in every way except for Candy to be killed in the end and how the story doesn't add up like u said Ox.
I wish Oxhorn could design his own mini-dlc. I’d read those terminal entries and notes with gusto! Thank you for reviewing these paid mods. I always watch your tack before I get any. I’m not a whale, but I do like things I like.
Yesterday i saw the new updates and immidiantly went to your channel just to see you playing fallout 76. I recently started fallout 4 again and i soooo regret not finding you years ago when i played it first. The way you tell stories and float into the game is amazing youre amazing. Stay like this
Remember the ghoul Triggermen talk about being part of the Boston Mob before the war. So we know there were some survivors. That someone/someone's brought them togeather to reconstitute the mob as the Triggermen fits.
Argh. I'm opposed to Creation Club on principle, but this one really tempts me!